I’m 33 and I remember being so sad when the Dan Ryan line changed into the subway and stopped going elavated over downtown. I love seeing the englewood line descend and the feel over the switch tracks. Used to love watching the old middle tracks before they fully gutted them. CTA changed so much over the years and uprooted so much history in order to streamline itself. I liked it so much better when it was trying to be like New York City subway.
I grew up near 63rd and Stony and I have very faint memories of the abandoned tracks still standing after they cut the new Green Line back to Cottage Grove. Apparently it went all the way to Stony Island, which, if they left it up, would've been an excellent easy connection/extension to the new Obama library...
Noticeably, that entire junction was built based on the original North-South and West-South pairings. With the original pairings, trains from the Howard-Englewood/Jackson Park left the State Street Subway and joined the South Side Elevated there while Lake-Dan Ryan trains took the flyover. The junction was designed so that the two routes went through here without interacting with each other.
Marci Stahl the reason they did that because they were in the middle of the construction for the upcoming Orange Line at that time. If they didn’t switch, West-South and Midway-Loop would’ve interact at the flyover junction. Also, due to the low ridership on the South Side L because people who using the Dan Ryan trains than the L and the station between 35th and Englewood’s branch was parallel to Dan Ryan branch stations.
maybe its because im technically a baby, and only been riding the cta for less than a decade (im 24) but these videos both fascinate me and confuse me because i only understand the lines by colour 😂😂
I'm 33 and some of my earliest memories are riding the train with family. I remember them talking about the changes in the routes in 93 and my teachers complaining in school about it. And don't get me started on the Green Line Shutdown.
I grew up on the names. Englewood/Jackson Pk/Howard Congress/Douglas/Milwaukee Lake/Dan Ryan Ravenswood Evanston Express Skokie Swift. Then it was Howard/Dan Ryan (Redine) Englewood/Jackson Pk/Lake ( Green Line) O'Hare/Congress/Douglas (Blue Line) Ravenswood ( Brown Line) Evanston/Wilmette Express ( Purple Line) Skokie Swift (Yellow Line) Midway, also known as the Southwest Side L ,(Orange Line) The Douglas branch of the Blue Line was rerouted in 2006 ir 2007 via the Paulina Connector and the Green line and renamed the Pink Line.
+WorldWhirl Unlike others, I keep comments open so that people can reflect about our "L" service and the historical scenes. Your comments says nothing about the "L"....its more useful in another topic where the subject is about crime, politics, discrimination, etc.
These are the 2000s as the west northwest had all the 2200s. They only were ever scheduled to run on the West South, West Northwest (later blue line), and pink line
The Lake Dan Ryan days and Howard Englewood/Jackson Park...ahh the good ol days Wished CTA would have left it the way it was instead of reconfiguring the lines and then even after that dismantling several stations along the Jackson Park/Englewood Branch (58th, 61st, University, Stony Island, Harvard, Wentworth, Racine)....that's 7 stations only to have 2 current stops on each branch....stupid as hell.
i think they did that because there is or was more passenger traffic on dan ryan and howard routes as opposed to the lake and englewood routes. it was more cost effective to run the longest and most frequent trains down the dan ryan and up the red line instead of running those long trains on englewood/jackson park and lake. at least that was the theory
They gave Jackson park the shaft and bowed to the bishop brazier! Saying getting rid of the El would revitalize the community, I take his decision was wrong?!
@BruhTV to buy up the property over there and it was a perception that the tracks caused blight and it was dark and dirty and businesses had dried up or moved due to crime, urban decay etc so the university wanted to buy all the property in that area. As its close to the school for housing, public buildings etc
@BruhTV Yea what's crazy is the city had spent all that money erecting a new terminal complete with tracks and was starting on the station which would have terminated at Dorchester right above Apostolic church. Bishop Brazier was very vocal about not wanting the tracks as it would have of course darkened the street so he was the fall guy but behind closed doors it was the University that had the say so and Mayor Daley caved in. They dismantled it in September 1997
I used to take one of those lines back in the 'early 60s from downtown and also from 39th st, to 63rd and Halsted. I have somewhere around here a couple of photos I took during the construction of the Dan Ryan at a curve over the expressway. Do you know which line it would have been?
It was this line right here....it's the Englewood branch of the Howard-Englewood/Jackson Park....it curves from the 59th street Junction crosses over I-94/Dan Ryan and used to stop at Wenthworth, and then Harvard, Halsted, Racine, and Ashland/63rd.
@@waltnash6980, I had thought that was the one. Thanks. 63rd and Halsted was a busy and vital shopping district, Sort of the South Sides' equivalent of the Northsides "Uptown".
You will find two samples each of the very old el cars and the I believe two of the repurposed PCC cars at the IRM 'Illinois Railroad Museum' and they use them on their line, also catch the PCC streetcar and an old Brill Red Rocket that takes you around the grounds. All restored there. It's in Union, IL not too far out, easy drive and worth it.
Tone Thomas , I believe the CTA retained a few of the old cars, for special runs for train fans, fund raisers, etc. One of these special trips can be seen on a RUclips video. The Illinois Railway Museum has several types of these old rapid transit cars, as well.
I’m 33 and I remember being so sad when the Dan Ryan line changed into the subway and stopped going elavated over downtown. I love seeing the englewood line descend and the feel over the switch tracks. Used to love watching the old middle tracks before they fully gutted them. CTA changed so much over the years and uprooted so much history in order to streamline itself. I liked it so much better when it was trying to be like New York City subway.
I grew up near 63rd and Stony and I have very faint memories of the abandoned tracks still standing after they cut the new Green Line back to Cottage Grove. Apparently it went all the way to Stony Island, which, if they left it up, would've been an excellent easy connection/extension to the new Obama library...
Oh yeah
Noticeably, that entire junction was built based on the original North-South and West-South pairings. With the original pairings, trains from the Howard-Englewood/Jackson Park left the State Street Subway and joined the South Side Elevated there while Lake-Dan Ryan trains took the flyover. The junction was designed so that the two routes went through here without interacting with each other.
Marci Stahl the reason they did that because they were in the middle of the construction for the upcoming Orange Line at that time. If they didn’t switch, West-South and Midway-Loop would’ve interact at the flyover junction. Also, due to the low ridership on the South Side L because people who using the Dan Ryan trains than the L and the station between 35th and Englewood’s branch was parallel to Dan Ryan branch stations.
I forgot the state st subway had block signals
I used watch the 2000's & 2600's on the Englewood Howard when we would go to Mystell's in the south loop.
I forgot about mystell's time flies remember starks on canal St
maybe its because im technically a baby, and only been riding the cta for less than a decade (im 24) but these videos both fascinate me and confuse me because i only understand the lines by colour 😂😂
YES! I'm 27 and I've only ever known the color lines. It's amazing to see what used to be here.
I'm 33 and some of my earliest memories are riding the train with family. I remember them talking about the changes in the routes in 93 and my teachers complaining in school about it. And don't get me started on the Green Line Shutdown.
I grew up on the names.
Englewood/Jackson Pk/Howard
Congress/Douglas/Milwaukee
Lake/Dan Ryan
Ravenswood
Evanston Express
Skokie Swift.
Then it was
Howard/Dan Ryan (Redine)
Englewood/Jackson Pk/Lake ( Green Line)
O'Hare/Congress/Douglas (Blue Line)
Ravenswood ( Brown Line)
Evanston/Wilmette Express ( Purple Line)
Skokie Swift (Yellow Line)
Midway, also known as the Southwest Side L ,(Orange Line)
The Douglas branch of the Blue Line was rerouted in 2006 ir 2007 via the Paulina Connector and the Green line and renamed the Pink Line.
I miss the old days
+WorldWhirl Unlike others, I keep comments open so that people can reflect about our "L" service and the historical scenes. Your comments says nothing about the "L"....its more useful in another topic where the subject is about crime, politics, discrimination, etc.
msibnsf True. There's lots of history on the Green Line.
The good old days of CTA
I love the old 2500 series. the blinker doors r classic and the always looked fast to me
Jamaal, 2500 series, Boeings #2401-2600, did not have blinker doors. 2200 series Budds were the last series with blinker doors.
These are the 2000s as the west northwest had all the 2200s. They only were ever scheduled to run on the West South, West Northwest (later blue line), and pink line
great film thanks
The Lake Dan Ryan days and Howard Englewood/Jackson Park...ahh the good ol days Wished CTA would have left it the way it was instead of reconfiguring the lines and then even after that dismantling several stations along the Jackson Park/Englewood Branch (58th, 61st, University, Stony Island, Harvard, Wentworth, Racine)....that's 7 stations only to have 2 current stops on each branch....stupid as hell.
i think they did that because there is or was more passenger traffic on dan ryan and howard routes as opposed to the lake and englewood routes. it was more cost effective to run the longest and most frequent trains down the dan ryan and up the red line instead of running those long trains on englewood/jackson park and lake. at least that was the theory
They gave Jackson park the shaft and bowed to the bishop brazier! Saying getting rid of the El would revitalize the community, I take his decision was wrong?!
@BruhTV Brazier was just the cop out. The real reason was the University of Chicago wanted the city to tear it down and they did.
@BruhTV to buy up the property over there and it was a perception that the tracks caused blight and it was dark and dirty and businesses had dried up or moved due to crime, urban decay etc so the university wanted to buy all the property in that area. As its close to the school for housing, public buildings etc
@BruhTV Yea what's crazy is the city had spent all that money erecting a new terminal complete with tracks and was starting on the station which would have terminated at Dorchester right above Apostolic church. Bishop Brazier was very vocal about not wanting the tracks as it would have of course darkened the street so he was the fall guy but behind closed doors it was the University that had the say so and Mayor Daley caved in. They dismantled it in September 1997
I used to ride the Englewood to get home from downtown. The Jackson Park went the other way.
I used to take one of those lines back in the 'early 60s from downtown and also from 39th st, to 63rd and Halsted. I have somewhere around here a couple of photos I took during the construction of the Dan Ryan at a curve over the expressway.
Do you know which line it would have been?
It was this line right here....it's the Englewood branch of the Howard-Englewood/Jackson Park....it curves from the 59th street Junction crosses over I-94/Dan Ryan and used to stop at Wenthworth, and then Harvard, Halsted, Racine, and Ashland/63rd.
246spyder
Orange line to O'Hare Airport
+Michael Johnson No blue to O'Hare Orange to Midway
/Englewood Branch
@@waltnash6980, I had thought that was the one. Thanks. 63rd and Halsted was a busy and vital shopping district, Sort of the South Sides' equivalent of the Northsides "Uptown".
I rode the A train.
it makes me wonder what cta did with the old cars
Tone Thomas Sold for scrap. A few go to museums.
You will find two samples each of the very old el cars and the I believe two of the repurposed PCC cars at the IRM 'Illinois Railroad Museum' and they use them on their line, also catch the PCC streetcar and an old Brill Red Rocket that takes you around the grounds. All restored there. It's in Union, IL not too far out, easy drive and worth it.
Tone Thomas , I believe the CTA retained a few of the old cars, for special runs for train fans, fund raisers, etc. One of these special trips can be seen on a RUclips video. The Illinois Railway Museum has several types of these old rapid transit cars, as well.
Heh, that at the end. Not sure when the IND will make it all the way out there.
I meant those. I was 300 over