A Candid Discussion on Suicide - The Seacoast Podcast - Ep. 97

Jack Hoey III, Lynne Stroy, Roy Jacques, and Joey Svendsen have a somber conversation about suicide, reflecting on personal losses at the hands of this tragedy, including the passing of Seacoast pastor Darrin Patrick in May of 2020. The four also ponder the theological implications of suicide and discuss the merits of the "selfish act label" that many people give to one who takes his or her life. Joey also fields questions from the other three about his experience with a mental health crisis in 2019, contemplating suicide some during that time. The four also have an imaginative discussion (thanks to Joey) on the suicide of the apostle Judas Iscariot.
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[@rebeccaputman6837]

I disagree with the assumption made by this group that people that commit suicide are completely selfish and they should have thought about the pain he would lay in his family.
Do people obviously not get it?! If you’re so depressed with your life and you know longer want to live. This person has probably tried numerous medications and hung on as long as they could.
They take their lives because they can’t stand to suffer anymore. If youve never been depressed, you can’t imagine day after day of negative dark thoughts and sadness and loneliness and unloved a person feels
. Suicide happens when they are tired of being miserable. I personally think it’s selfish of other people to point and say, “how dare he do that to us?!”
Until you’ve lived with mental illness you have no idea how scary, hopeless and dark it can be. Doctors can’t always figure out the diagnosis and there aren’t many new medications coming out for mental illness, anxiety.
If the medical system fails them and they can’t get enough support from family and church.
Then u won’t hear me say”how selfish” i say, “Don’t you really think he wanted to live? Obviously he had to make the awful decision to take his life. People can only tolerate the sadness and deep level of depression before they start isolating themselves they can just lay in the bed-sleep and isolate.the more depressed you are the level of energy also goes down. Depressed people are exhausted and sad and often have life situations that want changed. And since they can’t make it work. Then they don’t want to be alive.
I wish people would quit calling it selfish.

[@SeacoastChurch]

Hi Rebecca, clarifying that the group didn't assume that suicide is a selfish act. They were honest about the feelings they had in the past before learning more about depression and mental health. They also recognized the complexity and tension of their current feelings while acknowledging their lack of personal experience with depression and mental illness. Our host, Joey, shared his personal experience of having suicidal thoughts during a mental health crisis. He provided valuable insights into what he was thinking in those moments, which helps those who have not experienced mental illness gain a better perspective on the matter.

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As Jesus said Matthew 18:20 ( For where two or three gather together as my followers, I am there among them ). Where ever Jesus live or wherever Jesus be ,then it is a holy place , that is the reason why Jesus told to moses to take off his sandles because he is stepping into a holy place. According to this church is a holy place and also where people together talk about Jesus is a holy place the why many priests where their shoes while giving god messages to people. I am not judging any one.and I am Christian too.i wish you will ans my doubt. thank you.