This is FFC, the very best part of Shanghai (and maybe all of China). Walk a few blocks east or north and you'll see graffiti, trash, and grannies' big ole panties drying on every other patio.
@@user-sf5bt8eb4y Even pretending nets her a few points, at least she understands some reality. Because some of them will act like they don't even have to pretend.
The current Chinese women between 23-45 are the most greedy generation of Chinese women in the last 100 years. When you interview them, many will take the high road.
What a contrast to the "hate all men", "down with the patriarchy", "female superiority" BS in the west. This sounds more level headed and down to earth.
Many chinese women are still influenced by feminism, however it is correct that china wants more traditional roles and people actually respect eachother
yeah and those woman suffer loneliness here pretty hard. Chinese men just not gonna mess with those or rather those woman don't date "normal" chinese men, and the caliber of men that they want don't want to touch them with a 10 foot pole. Some chinese woman take that as an example and going back to traditional gender roles with more realistic standards
@@freddupont9605 As a Dutchman i can tell you that that is not the case anymore. literally. and we dont even split bills often anymore as well. only when we are with friends. dates? guys often pay. which i am not ok with mind you. women can pay as well
I think this video is more accurate. I'm British born Chinese. China is not westernized like a lot of youtubers say it is. A lot of women in China are like this, they like to either go AA or split the bill. Sometimes they pay for the whole meal (not something that I want but they fight to pay the whole bill, then I have to fight them back). Nothing like western women at all. Obviously you will always come across women who expect you to pay for everything, but it's rare in China. I'm not an old man, so I don't know what an old man experience is like lol. A large percentage of women make around 300 to 400 uk pounds per month. Factories, coffee shops, McDonald and restaurants. Women that make more are in the upper 30 percent
@@youtubeaccount1716 yeah maybe. Being British helps I think. These are my experiences though and feel Chinese women are nice imo. I don't know how they are towards Chinese men in China. I always had good experiences and find them reasonable
It's commonly accepted or even required to take marriage as a tool to move women's social class up in China, which then leads to a lot of behaviors, including having men to pay the bill. There are exceptions, mostly in tie-r 1 big cities, but the common culture is like that. The tolerance for gold diggers and trophy wives is signficantly higher in China, or even in many parts of Asia, compared to America and Europe.
One reason i broke up with a Japanese girlfriend is she always expected me to pay for all meals out. She was honest and said it was her traditional gender expectation. But it became annoying. She did make nice home cooked meals but I'd have preferred her to offer for some dates.
Hi, I'm Japanese woman. What she said was partially true but actually ppl don't do that anymore, tbh it's been quite a while ppl stopped to do that especially in the big city so just wanted to said that.
@@TM-uk1rv interesting. Perhaps it's generational. She was in her 50s making a good income. I'm retired now. Maybe only the older generation still expects traditional male to pay for everything, even if the women earns more income?
@@TM-uk1rv thank you for clarifying. She was definitely traditional in that sense. Her cooking was amazing. But not a good fit for a Canadian raised man, despite mutual physical attraction 🧲. She was very cute and made me laugh. Long term I had to admit I'd not be happy, so I broke up.
Maybe Shanghai is a bit different / more modern than the rest of Mainland, but these girls you interviewed are ESPECIALLY reasonable compared to the popular majority in China. I'm not trying to trash on China, but the average Chinese woman will expect the male partner to pay for expenses when going out or doing stuff together, and that's the reality of the situation. It gets way more demanding in a marriage situation, where the male partner (and his family) are expected to provide a house (or at least a down payment), a car, pay for the wedding, gift a set of 24K gold jewelery, and provide a large sum of cash (roughly translated as "bride price") to the bride's family. Some regions also dictate that the groom's parents provide free childcare and housework, or hire a nanny to do so. Now I'm not saying all Chinese women make these demands. Generally, the expectations are more equal in Tier 1 cities like Shanghai and Beijing. Regardless of the locale, I believe the material obligations on the male side is heaviest in China compared to other cultures (at least if it's a serious relationship).
Thats mainly because in China there is not really a good protection on woman if they divorced with the husband. (The bride price is actually kind of a protection for woman in a marriage) In a lot of Western countries eventhough the couple divorced the ex-husband still has to pay a precentage of their salary to their ex-wife. (And their property has to split in 50/50 if i remember correctly) Must admit some backwards family are indeed "selling" their daughters. 😢 But it is now less commen and hopefully not going to happen in de Future.
@@leonlam9419 There are many interpretations for “bride price” floating around nowadays. One of them being “protection for the woman in case of divorce” as you mentioned. “Compensation for the woman’s sacrifices in child bearing” is another popular one. IMO these are attempts to justify this practice by twisting its purpose to be more palatable with modern values. Traditionally speaking, “bride price” is basically human trafficking, in that it is the compensation due for the bride’s family for taking away their daughter to play a subservient role in the groom’s family. Chinese family dynamics have modernized since the days of emperors, so marriage customs should ditch old patriarchal traditions too. By keeping practices like “bride price” alive, we are enforcing the role of “victim” on women in marriage. This is backwards instead of empowering, and it exacerbates the feelings of mistrust between men and women in society which is running rampant in China. Equality between genders should be achieved via legal frameworks and a considerate workplace environment, not by reviving traditions that have their roots in patriarchal rule to extract short term advantages.
It's an age thing. The girls being interviewed are all very young. Generally the post 2000's generation are much more reasonable whereas women born in the 80s and 90s are closer to what you described.
Broke up with a beautiful 50 + Japanese woman who told me flatly she expected me to pay for all meals and all outings. She made a good income. At her place I never paid for groceries and she was a great cook, but the reality of constantly having to provide for her turned me off, despite our physical relationship. I could not see a future, especially with travel. She even wanted me to sell my home, which I love, to jointly buy a property together. Another idea I could not accept. I'd much rather have a partner that would be fine with sharing costs, not necessarily equal but certainly according to ability.
Action speaks louder than words. All of them said they would split their bills with their partners. However, not every one of them would actually "do" that.
Perhaps off the topic, but the Chinese girls appearing in the interview were so pretty. I am from Thailand and we welcome a lot of foreigners, Chinese girls truly stand out with their beauty.
At the beginning of dating, it's better for either men or lady to take the initiative and generously pay the whole bill. The advantage of doing is to express one's affection, satisfaction, and respect for the other one, while also being courteous. Ultimately, it's about winning their affection. But clever people, whether male or female, know a fundamental truth: there's no such thing as a free lunch. In a long-run good relationship, it's essential that both parties contribute. If only one side is giving endlessly while the other contributes nothing, the relationship is doomed to be short-lived. Naturally, if the man is always the one paying, the lady will inevitably need to give in other ways.
This has nothing to do with gender or nationality but rather aligns with practical norms. I am a man, and if someone invites me to a gathering-whether it’s a man or a woman-they cannot expect me to split the bill. Around the world, it is customary for the person who extends the invitation to cover the expenses, unless it’s a casual lunch with colleagues or classmates.
@@Nanohamagethere is not a specific word for. We just use splitting the bil or send a tikkie. (Which is sort of the app to transfer money, and pay bills to eachother)
Indonesian custom, men paying for bills, etc. but sometimes women also like to pay. Most Indonesian women rely on their boyfriend, because is very low income in Indonesia.
@@annieq4049 EVERY Country on the planet got different accents in between their own borders. Northern Chinese is completely different then Sothern Chinese.
if you have to split the bill evenly everytime and be in this constant fight for equality in a relationship fearing the other is taking advantage of you, then why are you in a relationship? IMO, if you invite someone to go with you, to a restaurant you like, then you pay for it. If I ask you out, then I should pay. If you're making 500k and your partner makes 20k, are you going to make him/her split the bill with you when you insist on going to fancy restaurants...or you're just going to date someone who is on par with you financially, but then it just means it's all about money then. If everything is a clear cut 50/50, then are you going to share the burden on everything including giving birth/raising a child. If you can't afford a meal without splitting the bill, then stay home. Don't stress yourself out and do you something you can't afford to do
Exactly, and if it's continued to marriage life (assuming the dating relationship works) like do we need to split the household bills equally too? And how much you gonna pay your wife for being pregnant and giving birth to your child, or what was the arrangements? Do you guys want to split the hospital delivery fee equally too? Or if one partner sick and can't no longer work for some period of time, should we just leave them? Since he/she can't equally participated in 50:50 right. Or asking reimbursed from them once they are productive again? All relationship is about understanding and balance really, if you strictly fight for equal with your partner or constantly being reminded about it. Then reconsider your relationship,
video description says the opinions are 'varied', and yet the frontpage says 'no way' in bold letters. that's inconsistency. (or click bait so to speak)
Shanghai. More specifically, all recorded in the area around Wukang Rd. in Xuhui District. This is one of Shanghai's most fashionable areas to visit on the weekend: Old colonial-style French buildings, little boutiques, cafes, restaurants, leafy tree-lined streets, wine bars.....
If it is a date, the guy should pay if he really likes her. I think it shows respect and effort. Now, if the girl likes the guy and appreciated his effort, I think she should pay for coffee and dessert afterwards at a cafe.
same with vietnamese culture, we guys generally prefer to pay for the girls that we are interest in...and vice versa, once the guy pay for the dinner, the girls often offer to pay for movies or something else. Unlike the US, not all, but the ones that expect the guys to pay for everything even though they aren't married or anything like that, those belong to the trash bin.
They are just saying nice things in front of the camera. In reality, when couples date in China, it's usually the man who pays. When it comes to marriage, the man is expected to provide a substantial dowry, and it's mostly the man who bears the cost of buying a house and a car. Moreover, China's current marriage laws are very biased in favor of women, and judges also tend to side with them. In divorce cases, men should be prepared to lose a significant portion of their assets.
If you have a woman making $5000 a month, and a man making $2000 a month, then maybe the woman should find a man that also makes $5000 a month? Is that what love is? Finding someone in the same pay scale as you? Might as well be a feudal society.
Chinese women are very practical or they call it "realistic" and that's being nice because gold digging there is as old as time except their digging is far more sophisticated and undetectable than most women in other countries.
then they are gonna whine about how ppl are all about money if you're looking for someone with the same economic status. If being able to pay 50/50 is such a high priority that you need to put financial status as a top critieria and eliminate 80% of your social circle, then ppl like that should just hire a prostitute . You can never win with these penny pinchers.
As a Native Dutchman i can assure you that the phrase Going Dutch means literally nothing anymore. we are way too americanized for that. we guys have to pay for literally everything here. the only thing we dont pay is the bill if we go out for drinks with friends. we do split the bill often. but on Dates? yeah no its the guy who pays.
@@Go4Broke247 i am a guy but i have different meanings of a Gentlemen is. its not paying for a dinner thats for sure. people can make their own money and pay for their own food right? why should we as a guy have to do that literally never made sense to me.
As a woman, I'm overthought about this. I have ego and independent enough, so I want to go 50/50 all the time. But, I know that men want to have more power as a "man", so woman needs to be wise to feed them ego and self-esteem so that men will like us. Imagine the situation when a man shows off to pay and a date keeps denying, he will feel less and not connected, honestly feel like cannot give so cannot take. I believe women can take care of ourselves these days, we just let men feel good by doing this.
I personally don't agree with 50/50, I think it cheapens the relationship, instead I think it's best if you pay this time and I will pay next time in full, with the amounts not having to exactly match up, it is more symbolic than anything.
Of course they would say that on camera. but they prob are unhappy with guys who split with them, leading to no 2nd dates, which also harms themselves bc they could have lost out on a great guy. also, saying that the person who asked the other out should pay makes no sense. the reason is bc girls never take the initiative- never. so by default the guys must always pay.
I mean if a girl doesn't have money how is she going to split the bill with you? 😂 The problem is in the past men could have jobs that could support their wives and a family. That's not possible anymore. At least not to the expectations of current day people. You have to be in the top percent of people to be able to do that. And not every guy can be in the top percent of people.
FYI - There are a lot of Chinese women who are millionaires. But those do tend to stay within their own race. Also, with the term "Go-Dutch," do Dutch women really do even spits after a meal?
0:12 thinks she's sly... guy pays for the travel expenses and she pays meals lol!! I wish there were a way to see people this honestly as they reveal in these interviews. You can quickly know who never to hang out with based on what they think about this topic. It's not a matter of preference, but one of class. Low class individuals will have a tendency to do as little as possible - including not paying their share when going out. Leave them to the streets!
I have been to Shanghai a few times for business trips. Obviously the American youtube commentators only know about Shanghai from Jackie Chan's Shanghai Noon. If you go Guizhou, Chongqing, Kunming, etc, the girls there will treat the guys. Shanghai? Oh.... Please visit Shanghai instead of watching Jackie's Shanghai noon or youtube Shanghai. Shanghainese are very self-assured (I use a more subtle term in place of "arrogant") they tend to think they are superior amongst the other Chinese countrymen and.. very cunning.. after all.. Any wise person will not say go "Dutch" in front of the camera.. not the Shanghainess especially. Anyway, want to date a girl, expect to pay. "No money, no honey -> not in Shanghai" Wake up dudes.
I don't know why this thing is on my youtube recommendations. But I have a Filo Chinese Girlfriend all I can say is she pay for food sometimes when were on a date and in our anniversary she always bought me something for me too. I am just lucky to have her cuz. I have a friend who also has chinese girlfriend before he just got robbed after spending all his money her gf also gone lol.
I loved the sincerity and practicality of Asian women. These women clearly don’t put money as the most vital factor in their dating lives. It’s good to see absolutely BEAUTIFUL women be so down to earth. All potential marriage mates. This is why men here in the west are getting passports. ❤
they are basically a can of worms if you wanna try to open there are many bad things waiting for you they won't give you any emotional feedback, they think it is all take it for granted
@@moonknight4053 and if we go out on a date and i order more food than her and actually eat more than her, should we still divide by 2? I'd rather pay for her, plus, it's gonna make me look good anyway
@@wallaceling6140 Then you can pay her abit extra? It’s not hard bro. You don’t have to impress to the point where she’s treated like a princess! Paying constantly for everything isn’t good. You deserve the same treatment then if we’re going by logic and common generosity
@@moonknight4053 i hear you man, and i think it has to be mutual too, but like maybe she can then treat me to the movies or sth else, it is like i pay for the dinner date, and she pays for the movie date. i would feel bad about her too if I'm the only one contributing. but quite honestly, my silly worthless male ego would still want to pay at least a bit more than her overall LOL call me old fashioned for that😂
i don't think anybody expect you to pull out calculator i don't even do that with my male friends but if i paid for date and we go on second one you better at least offer to pay it
As a man if you invite a woman out you pay. It’s up to you for a man to set up a second meeting base on what you sensed on the first one. If you feel used with no chances why waste time, move on to another one, and if not what you expect better be alone than used. Beauty does not entitle to abuse people around you.
As a man you are assuming too much that the woman would go out with you the first time as a date who expected you to pay everything and not merely just as friends and good company and in which case she might be the one who prefers to split the bill and draw a boundary. Welcome to the 21st century.
I think this person gave their opinion as much as any person in the video. No one has to agree as I didn't agree with many responses, but I am not criticizing their way of thinking for being different of mine. I think you guys should respect this person's opinon and give your own opinion. I didn't see it as a lecture.
@@ReallyBadJosy No you do not have the right to respect. This foolish opinion clearly does not reflect the views of a majority of men and should be mocked immediately!
A man should always pay on a 👉🏼date👈🏼 with a woman. No have money, dont go on date. Going Dutch should be done with friends on a dinner, if it is not a celebration. And yes, Dutch are real Scrooge 😂😂😂 Going Dutch : Anglo-Saxon way of saying Dutch are stingy.
Reasonable and sensible responses from these young girls.
Did anyone else notice how clean the streets are and the refreshing absence of graffiti on the buildings?
This is FFC, the very best part of Shanghai (and maybe all of China).
Walk a few blocks east or north and you'll see graffiti, trash, and grannies' big ole panties drying on every other patio.
Good work comrade!
Because crime gets punished .. where as here in the USA…. . 🤷🏻♂️
@@funkychicken2119 yes….the criminals run the show and buy elections and the media and….
@@funkychicken2119 yes even speaking is considered a crime in China. Progress!
The fact that you're willing to go dutch, already is enough for me to not let you go dutch. That of course has to be coming from the heart first.
I agree. only issue is some of them are very good at manipulating, pretending to want to go dutch but never intending to
@@user-sf5bt8eb4y Even pretending nets her a few points, at least she understands some reality. Because some of them will act like they don't even have to pretend.
Thank you for the Chinese subtitles! It's really helpful to have both English and Chinese subtitles.
thank you so much for your hard work! thanks especially for the mandarin subtitles, it helps me learn 🥰💕✨👍
@@kenneseyl2819 it’s my pleasure! 😇
These chinese women are more open than many western women
第一次听到这样说的，大部人都说中国女生保守。不过我感觉可能是有这两种情况：
1、上面受采访的女生都是出国留学的吧，认知提起来了就会比较开放。
2、上面的女生比价年轻，价值观还是比较正的。
Sure and the USA aka IOU-country has no debts and little-India is a superpower
yes, in the west told people to open minded to them, but they are close minded to others opinion
These views are widespread in western Europe. Mostly the US that lags behind (as a country where men and women work and get paid pretty equally)
Chinese women actually are very independent and thoughtful, thank you for sharing, I love your channel! 🎉
The current Chinese women between 23-45 are the most greedy generation of Chinese women in the last 100 years. When you interview them, many will take the high road.
😂😂😂😂😂
《独立》也就骗骗外国人
Interesantes respuestas de las mujeres chinas parecen mas de apoyo mutuo que exprimir al otro y sacar provecho de la situacion.
What a contrast to the "hate all men", "down with the patriarchy", "female superiority" BS in the west. This sounds more level headed and down to earth.
Dont be fooled.
Dont be fooled.
Many chinese women are still influenced by feminism, however it is correct that china wants more traditional roles and people actually respect eachother
yeah and those woman suffer loneliness here pretty hard. Chinese men just not gonna mess with those or rather those woman don't date "normal" chinese men, and the caliber of men that they want don't want to touch them with a 10 foot pole. Some chinese woman take that as an example and going back to traditional gender roles with more realistic standards
Oh they're just acting. I'll be damned if I trust any of these city women.
Going Dutch means friendzone. Treating the guy meals occasionally and buying him gifts is called dating.
C'mon...we know the exact meaning... Dutch look at their money like hell...
Going Dutch means an equal split of a bill. I think we understand what it means. It's up to the people in the relationship.
@@freddupont9605and you dont? Must be why your here commenting on their habits while the dutch own the most valuable company in europe.
@@Jalee4852 No, I don't look at my money like them, they're cheapskates. "while the dutch own the most valuable company in europe.": no, they don't.
@@freddupont9605 As a Dutchman i can tell you that that is not the case anymore. literally. and we dont even split bills often anymore as well. only when we are with friends. dates? guys often pay. which i am not ok with mind you. women can pay as well
I think this video is more accurate. I'm British born Chinese. China is not westernized like a lot of youtubers say it is. A lot of women in China are like this, they like to either go AA or split the bill. Sometimes they pay for the whole meal (not something that I want but they fight to pay the whole bill, then I have to fight them back). Nothing like western women at all. Obviously you will always come across women who expect you to pay for everything, but it's rare in China.
I'm not an old man, so I don't know what an old man experience is like lol. A large percentage of women make around 300 to 400 uk pounds per month. Factories, coffee shops, McDonald and restaurants. Women that make more are in the upper 30 percent
you really don’t know chinese women 😅 your experience is strictly british
@@youtubeaccount1716 yeah maybe. Being British helps I think. These are my experiences though and feel Chinese women are nice imo. I don't know how they are towards Chinese men in China. I always had good experiences and find them reasonable
It's commonly accepted or even required to take marriage as a tool to move women's social class up in China, which then leads to a lot of behaviors, including having men to pay the bill. There are exceptions, mostly in tie-r 1 big cities, but the common culture is like that. The tolerance for gold diggers and trophy wives is signficantly higher in China, or even in many parts of Asia, compared to America and Europe.
whats AA
One reason i broke up with a Japanese girlfriend is she always expected me to pay for all meals out. She was honest and said it was her traditional gender expectation. But it became annoying. She did make nice home cooked meals but I'd have preferred her to offer for some dates.
Hi, I'm Japanese woman. What she said was partially true but actually ppl don't do that anymore, tbh it's been quite a while ppl stopped to do that especially in the big city so just wanted to said that.
@@TM-uk1rv interesting. Perhaps it's generational. She was in her 50s making a good income. I'm retired now. Maybe only the older generation still expects traditional male to pay for everything, even if the women earns more income?
@@firstlast7719 Aha, that makes much more sense. Japanese woman in their 50s have been through so much peer pressure and expected fixed gender roles.
@@TM-uk1rv thank you for clarifying. She was definitely traditional in that sense. Her cooking was amazing. But not a good fit for a Canadian raised man, despite mutual physical attraction 🧲. She was very cute and made me laugh. Long term I had to admit I'd not be happy, so I broke up.
Totally agree with these girls.
These Chinese girls are all reasonable and nice.
When trolling generates income
Maybe Shanghai is a bit different / more modern than the rest of Mainland, but these girls you interviewed are ESPECIALLY reasonable compared to the popular majority in China. I'm not trying to trash on China, but the average Chinese woman will expect the male partner to pay for expenses when going out or doing stuff together, and that's the reality of the situation. It gets way more demanding in a marriage situation, where the male partner (and his family) are expected to provide a house (or at least a down payment), a car, pay for the wedding, gift a set of 24K gold jewelery, and provide a large sum of cash (roughly translated as "bride price") to the bride's family. Some regions also dictate that the groom's parents provide free childcare and housework, or hire a nanny to do so.
Now I'm not saying all Chinese women make these demands. Generally, the expectations are more equal in Tier 1 cities like Shanghai and Beijing. Regardless of the locale, I believe the material obligations on the male side is heaviest in China compared to other cultures (at least if it's a serious relationship).
Thats mainly because in China there is not really a good protection on woman if they divorced with the husband. (The bride price is actually kind of a protection for woman in a marriage) In a lot of Western countries eventhough the couple divorced the ex-husband still has to pay a precentage of their salary to their ex-wife. (And their property has to split in 50/50 if i remember correctly) Must admit some backwards family are indeed "selling" their daughters. 😢 But it is now less commen and hopefully not going to happen in de Future.
@@leonlam9419 There are many interpretations for “bride price” floating around nowadays. One of them being “protection for the woman in case of divorce” as you mentioned. “Compensation for the woman’s sacrifices in child bearing” is another popular one. IMO these are attempts to justify this practice by twisting its purpose to be more palatable with modern values. Traditionally speaking, “bride price” is basically human trafficking, in that it is the compensation due for the bride’s family for taking away their daughter to play a subservient role in the groom’s family. Chinese family dynamics have modernized since the days of emperors, so marriage customs should ditch old patriarchal traditions too. By keeping practices like “bride price” alive, we are enforcing the role of “victim” on women in marriage. This is backwards instead of empowering, and it exacerbates the feelings of mistrust between men and women in society which is running rampant in China. Equality between genders should be achieved via legal frameworks and a considerate workplace environment, not by reviving traditions that have their roots in patriarchal rule to extract short term advantages.
It's an age thing. The girls being interviewed are all very young. Generally the post 2000's generation are much more reasonable whereas women born in the 80s and 90s are closer to what you described.
When in relation or not share the bill.guy and lady like tht look to have value.😊😊😊
Broke up with a beautiful 50 + Japanese woman who told me flatly she expected me to pay for all meals and all outings. She made a good income. At her place I never paid for groceries and she was a great cook, but the reality of constantly having to provide for her turned me off, despite our physical relationship. I could not see a future, especially with travel. She even wanted me to sell my home, which I love, to jointly buy a property together. Another idea I could not accept. I'd much rather have a partner that would be fine with sharing costs, not necessarily equal but certainly according to ability.
They all talked with sense
Action speaks louder than words. All of them said they would split their bills with their partners. However, not every one of them would actually "do" that.
Respecting the guy. Makes their bf’s feel like the “big man” by letting him pay
Perhaps off the topic, but the Chinese girls appearing in the interview were so pretty.
I am from Thailand and we welcome a lot of foreigners, Chinese girls truly stand out with their beauty.
Great channel, thx youtube for recommending this video out of the blue
I thought the views showed Chinese women are pretty balanced in their thinking
They created the concept of yin and yang after all
At the beginning of dating, it's better for either men or lady to take the initiative and generously pay the whole bill. The advantage of doing is to express one's affection, satisfaction, and respect for the other one, while also being courteous. Ultimately, it's about winning their affection. But clever people, whether male or female, know a fundamental truth: there's no such thing as a free lunch. In a long-run good relationship, it's essential that both parties contribute. If only one side is giving endlessly while the other contributes nothing, the relationship is doomed to be short-lived. Naturally, if the man is always the one paying, the lady will inevitably need to give in other ways.
This has nothing to do with gender or nationality but rather aligns with practical norms. I am a man, and if someone invites me to a gathering-whether it’s a man or a woman-they cannot expect me to split the bill. Around the world, it is customary for the person who extends the invitation to cover the expenses, unless it’s a casual lunch with colleagues or classmates.
Most of these girl's are stunning beauties :-)
I'm Dutch. Lets go.
do dutch actually "go dutch" and how do they call it?
Ok lets goooooo
@@Nanohamagethere is not a specific word for. We just use splitting the bil or send a tikkie. (Which is sort of the app to transfer money, and pay bills to eachother)
Indonesian custom, men paying for bills, etc. but sometimes women also like to pay.
Most Indonesian women rely on their boyfriend, because is very low income in Indonesia.
Proportional to the pay gap. 50/50 is actually out of scale.
Love Shanghai accent. quite easy to understand for me
They dont have any accents, just mandarin
@@annieq4049 EVERY Country on the planet got different accents in between their own borders. Northern Chinese is completely different then Sothern Chinese.
if you have to split the bill evenly everytime and be in this constant fight for equality in a relationship fearing the other is taking advantage of you, then why are you in a relationship? IMO, if you invite someone to go with you, to a restaurant you like, then you pay for it. If I ask you out, then I should pay. If you're making 500k and your partner makes 20k, are you going to make him/her split the bill with you when you insist on going to fancy restaurants...or you're just going to date someone who is on par with you financially, but then it just means it's all about money then. If everything is a clear cut 50/50, then are you going to share the burden on everything including giving birth/raising a child. If you can't afford a meal without splitting the bill, then stay home. Don't stress yourself out and do you something you can't afford to do
Exactly, and if it's continued to marriage life (assuming the dating relationship works) like do we need to split the household bills equally too?
And how much you gonna pay your wife for being pregnant and giving birth to your child, or what was the arrangements?
Do you guys want to split the hospital delivery fee equally too?
Or if one partner sick and can't no longer work for some period of time, should we just leave them? Since he/she can't equally participated in 50:50 right. Or asking reimbursed from them once they are productive again?
All relationship is about understanding and balance really, if you strictly fight for equal with your partner or constantly being reminded about it. Then reconsider your relationship,
When divorce split the kid too😏😏😏😏😏
video description says the opinions are 'varied', and yet the frontpage says 'no way' in bold letters. that's inconsistency. (or click bait so to speak)
The third girl is so beautiful.
Which city is this in China?
Shanghai. More specifically, all recorded in the area around Wukang Rd. in Xuhui District. This is one of Shanghai's most fashionable areas to visit on the weekend: Old colonial-style French buildings, little boutiques, cafes, restaurants, leafy tree-lined streets, wine bars.....
If it is a date, the guy should pay if he really likes her. I think it shows respect and effort. Now, if the girl likes the guy and appreciated his effort, I think she should pay for coffee and dessert afterwards at a cafe.
same with vietnamese culture, we guys generally prefer to pay for the girls that we are interest in...and vice versa, once the guy pay for the dinner, the girls often offer to pay for movies or something else. Unlike the US, not all, but the ones that expect the guys to pay for everything even though they aren't married or anything like that, those belong to the trash bin.
VN girls are awesome
@FrickinCCDeVileV but some of them can be crazy, they take the vow till death do us part...literary.
@@thienpham911 I saw some crazy stuff when i went there yes 🤣
Cool place and vibe, where is it?
USA
NYC chinatown
Indonesia
the last think women have rights to say no while bill paid by men is compulsory
They are just saying nice things in front of the camera. In reality, when couples date in China, it's usually the man who pays. When it comes to marriage, the man is expected to provide a substantial dowry, and it's mostly the man who bears the cost of buying a house and a car. Moreover, China's current marriage laws are very biased in favor of women, and judges also tend to side with them. In divorce cases, men should be prepared to lose a significant portion of their assets.
Thats the traditional way. These were all very young women. Things change
Just be natural and not calculative for a relationship to work. Give and take.
Heng shan lu?
To be honest, I don't like it when people pay for my food. I like to pay for everyone's meal, it feels wrong not to do so. XD
If you have a woman making $5000 a month, and a man making $2000 a month, then maybe the woman should find a man that also makes $5000 a month? Is that what love is? Finding someone in the same pay scale as you? Might as well be a feudal society.
Chinese women are very practical or they call it "realistic" and that's being nice because gold digging there is as old as time except their digging is far more sophisticated and undetectable than most women in other countries.
then they are gonna whine about how ppl are all about money if you're looking for someone with the same economic status. If being able to pay 50/50 is such a high priority that you need to put financial status as a top critieria and eliminate 80% of your social circle, then ppl like that should just hire a prostitute . You can never win with these penny pinchers.
0:30 she makes me want to learn Chinese!
1:26 Future wife if she wants to come live in Quebec, Canada!
if you don't want to split it , you can pay it all.
Give what you have will set you free (he/she then can say you love money more than me)
Just that they probably wont show up on the second date...
Learn something new everyday. Especially Dutch.
As a Native Dutchman i can assure you that the phrase Going Dutch means literally nothing anymore. we are way too americanized for that. we guys have to pay for literally everything here. the only thing we dont pay is the bill if we go out for drinks with friends. we do split the bill often. but on Dates? yeah no its the guy who pays.
@@metalvideos1961 are you a gentlemen?
@@Go4Broke247 i am a guy but i have different meanings of a Gentlemen is. its not paying for a dinner thats for sure. people can make their own money and pay for their own food right? why should we as a guy have to do that literally never made sense to me.
dating expenses for their seafood, its sound and fair.
As a woman, I'm overthought about this. I have ego and independent enough, so I want to go 50/50 all the time. But, I know that men want to have more power as a "man", so woman needs to be wise to feed them ego and self-esteem so that men will like us. Imagine the situation when a man shows off to pay and a date keeps denying, he will feel less and not connected, honestly feel like cannot give so cannot take. I believe women can take care of ourselves these days, we just let men feel good by doing this.
Are they random Girls because To me Most of them are looking beautyful Like Models
Not random I think, pretty girls draw more attention, so they chose mostly pretty girls
They used filters as always
Bfr, only this one 0:09 looks like a model
@@StephenChowKINGOFCOMEDY they did not use filters in this video.....
@@somethingggggg of course they used it. Can't you see😮💨😮💨😮💨😮💨
Going with a Chinese or Southeast Asian girl is like depositing in a bank only to see it go bankrupt soon 🤣
婚前，財產何分，無所不可。婚後，財產共享，不分你我，此乃真合。
I personally don't agree with 50/50, I think it cheapens the relationship, instead I think it's best if you pay this time and I will pay next time in full, with the amounts not having to exactly match up, it is more symbolic than anything.
Of course they would say that on camera. but they prob are unhappy with guys who split with them, leading to no 2nd dates, which also harms themselves bc they could have lost out on a great guy. also, saying that the person who asked the other out should pay makes no sense. the reason is bc girls never take the initiative- never. so by default the guys must always pay.
I have a face!😂
I think she meant goodlooking.
I mean if a girl doesn't have money how is she going to split the bill with you? 😂 The problem is in the past men could have jobs that could support their wives and a family. That's not possible anymore. At least not to the expectations of current day people. You have to be in the top percent of people to be able to do that. And not every guy can be in the top percent of people.
FYI - There are a lot of Chinese women who are millionaires. But those do tend to stay within their own race. Also, with the term "Go-Dutch," do Dutch women really do even spits after a meal?
Smart girls. They don’t show their real Greediness on camera.
lol for real.all women are the same😂
Men should always pay for their date period at least I do
Simp
What is a simp?
Who are you to make that rule for man
i have no idea why some women with low self worth are happy to tolerate cheap men
0:12 thinks she's sly... guy pays for the travel expenses and she pays meals lol!! I wish there were a way to see people this honestly as they reveal in these interviews. You can quickly know who never to hang out with based on what they think about this topic. It's not a matter of preference, but one of class. Low class individuals will have a tendency to do as little as possible - including not paying their share when going out. Leave them to the streets!
I have been to Shanghai a few times for business trips. Obviously the American youtube commentators only know about Shanghai from Jackie Chan's Shanghai Noon. If you go Guizhou, Chongqing, Kunming, etc, the girls there will treat the guys. Shanghai? Oh.... Please visit Shanghai instead of watching Jackie's Shanghai noon or youtube Shanghai. Shanghainese are very self-assured (I use a more subtle term in place of "arrogant") they tend to think they are superior amongst the other Chinese countrymen and.. very cunning.. after all.. Any wise person will not say go "Dutch" in front of the camera.. not the Shanghainess especially. Anyway, want to date a girl, expect to pay. "No money, no honey -> not in Shanghai" Wake up dudes.
I don't know why this thing is on my youtube recommendations. But I have a Filo Chinese Girlfriend all I can say is she pay for food sometimes when were on a date and in our anniversary she always bought me something for me too. I am just lucky to have her cuz. I have a friend who also has chinese girlfriend before he just got robbed after spending all his money her gf also gone lol.
what mean "as long as he has a face"?
应该是脸长得好看的意思
I loved the sincerity and practicality of Asian women. These women clearly don’t put money as the most vital factor in their dating lives. It’s good to see absolutely BEAUTIFUL women be so down to earth. All potential marriage mates. This is why men here in the west are getting passports. ❤
我也覺得男生應該要付錢，不應該由女生出錢，這樣的話男生才有發言權😂
Women are more educated and independent now, mentality have changed, not many expect men to pay for their own stuff unless youre a spoiled princess.
The girl at 0:07 is insanely attractive
where can i find these girls? lol especially the girl in tank top! ;D
Well china
@@michikatsutsugikuni3098 💀
Wild guess....China.🤷♂
@@michikatsutsugikuni3098 How can you be so sure
2:44 女生。希望妳會找到一個適合的男人。我是女的，我會選A A。如果我有一個兒子，我也會勸我的兒子避開你這種類型的。😅
Gimme those girls who contribute to the share!!
seems like most chinese girls prefers the guys to pay.
i am sure in their mind they will still want for the guy to pay for everything
they are basically a can of worms if you wanna try to open there are many bad things waiting for you they won't give you any emotional feedback, they think it is all take it for granted
it should be a coin toss
鏡頭前跟鏡頭後是不一樣的哈哈哈哈，偏偏不懂國情的外國人就行了。
the girl at 0:18 wish theres more of her
I forgot to ask.. which city is this..?
@@Ghosted760 Shanghai
I'd be mad too if everything must be split totally equal cuz it's actually very hard to count every damn thing
You divide by 2 bro………
@@moonknight4053 and if we go out on a date and i order more food than her and actually eat more than her, should we still divide by 2? I'd rather pay for her, plus, it's gonna make me look good anyway
@@wallaceling6140 Then you can pay her abit extra? It’s not hard bro. You don’t have to impress to the point where she’s treated like a princess! Paying constantly for everything isn’t good. You deserve the same treatment then if we’re going by logic and common generosity
@@moonknight4053 i hear you man, and i think it has to be mutual too, but like maybe she can then treat me to the movies or sth else, it is like i pay for the dinner date, and she pays for the movie date. i would feel bad about her too if I'm the only one contributing. but quite honestly, my silly worthless male ego would still want to pay at least a bit more than her overall LOL call me old fashioned for that😂
i don't think anybody expect you to pull out calculator i don't even do that with my male friends but if i paid for date and we go on second one you better at least offer to pay it
For guys, get to third base ASAP and get what you'd pay for.
Men always treat first apparently lol.
As a man if you invite a woman out you pay. It’s up to you for a man to set up a second meeting base on what you sensed on the first one. If you feel used with no chances why waste time, move on to another one, and if not what you expect better be alone than used. Beauty does not entitle to abuse people around you.
No why is that automatic? I violently disagree no one elected you king of the world to make rules for all men.
所以女人如果觉得自己是受害者，那最好自己一个人，而不是被害。停止你对男人的规训，管好你自己。
As a man you are assuming too much that the woman would go out with you the first time as a date who expected you to pay everything and not merely just as friends and good company and in which case she might be the one who prefers to split the bill and draw a boundary. Welcome to the 21st century.
I think this person gave their opinion as much as any person in the video. No one has to agree as I didn't agree with many responses, but I am not criticizing their way of thinking for being different of mine. I think you guys should respect this person's opinon and give your own opinion.
I didn't see it as a lecture.
@@ReallyBadJosy No you do not have the right to respect. This foolish opinion clearly does not reflect the views of a majority of men and should be mocked immediately!
What's hers is hers, and what's yours is hers too!
Hi just I would like to ask do you have any friends women here in Sydney so I can go for a drink coffee?
0:08 Who is this girl, and is she 'single'? If so, what's her social handle~ and does she want Australia greencard 😂
At point dating is dead for man at this point because woman with the mindset of being entitled
我只能说表面功夫做的很不错。内心不一定这么想的。男的第一次约会要是要求AA。绝对没下次
Go Dutch everyone, feminism let’s goooo 50:50
A man should always pay on a 👉🏼date👈🏼 with a woman.
No have money, dont go on date.
Going Dutch should be done with friends on a dinner, if it is not a celebration.
And yes, Dutch are real Scrooge 😂😂😂
Going Dutch : Anglo-Saxon way of saying Dutch are stingy.
版本t0
我从朋友那里听说过t0，也在网上看到过，现在又看到了。我想知道t0是什么意思！
Or u could do what I do, make so much money that no one even needs to think about it.
Ok, so both parties to pay. Not the guy paying all. But women paying less hahahha, or much lesser
怎麼這麼多殺馬特頭
The woman at 0:12 is thoughtful and stunning. Marriage material.
no no.....look again will you
@@korigang I looked again... I still say she is marriage material. Every man has different taste in women.
If you have money everyone can be yours or good looking ofc!@@Ghosted760
"there is difference between boys and girls" - funny how this is used conveniently
Im single ladys
Never listen to them and see what they do
the girl at 0.10. i'm in love with her. IG?
Only wes lemon go Dutch with inda GRULBRIGHT
"Going Dutch" ahahah if even China they know 😅
They seem pretty reasonable, very refreshing coming from the gold diggr and left over vvomen videos lol
来而无往 非礼也