One of the few channels on youtube when i am always glad to wait as long as it takes for the new post. They are just that awesome and well worth the wait. Thank you very much!
This is one of the most comprehensive Lagoon 51 videos on RUclips. I’ve watched all of them because I am waiting for mine to be built in Bordeaux by Jan/Feb. I will be bringing it to Greece for charter. Thank you for all your great informative videos on catamarans.
What a good skipper are you. The route planning, usage of the sails- so safe, comfortable and professional. One exception- sugar consumption your only flaw as a captain.
Love your videos Igor. Had a beneteau 473 for 13 years. The maintenance was never ending and the quality of workmanship by Beneteau - who also makes lagoon - I give it 2 out of 5 quality
Been watching this channel for a min and just decided to stream in on the TV and didn’t realize how much more beautiful it is on the TV lol.. completely different vibe 👍
Man, I watched it all. My dream is to get the license and to go to Croatian islands on a catamaran. Thanks for the video. Learned something for myself. All the best to you, good man!
Spomenuli ste u jednom trenutku autopilot i da ga se treba držati na modu u kojemu drži smjer vjetra kada brod jedri. Generalno pravilo je: 1) kada se ide u vjetar - namjestite ga da drži prividni vjetar (apparent wind) 2) kada idete niz vjetar, namjestite ga da drži stvarni vjetar (true wind), zato da se ne okrene prema vjetru kada ga pogodi reful, što bi napravio da je na AWA modu. 3) kada ne idete u vjetar ili niz vjetar (kad Vam je s boka) onda ga stavite na kompas, jer ste brži ako brod vozi direktnijom rutom umjesto da prati vjetar i okolo krivuda. Također, ne volim Raymarine elektroniku. B&G je uvijek bio i bit će kralj jedriličarske elektronike. Raymarine je veća kompanija i puno više proizvode, ali oni primarno proizvode elektroniku za motornjake. B&G je specifično dizajniran za jedrenje, sa njihovim sistemom za postavljanje bova na karti i računjanja laylinesa i naj efikasnijih kutova za svaki specifični brod. Prije 2 mjeseca sam porinuo svoju novu Bavariu 46 sa B&G elektronikom, i već vidim zašto su neki proizvođači izbacili B&G. Što je proizvod sofisticiraniji, to je teže početniku da se navikne taj proizvod koristiti. Većina ljudi uopće nije niti svjesna što sve B&G nudi i zato im je jednostavna i oskudna Raymarine oprema sasvim dovoljna. Također, nevjerojatno da je Garmin totalno ispao iz igre... Također, nevezano za to, planiram ovo ljeto jednu puno veću avanturu sa mojim starim drvenim optimistom! Smislio sam efektivnu metodu spavanja na čamcu, što otvara horizonte koji su jako daleko od Vrgade. Naravno i dalje treba biti oprezan. Ipak je to stari drveni optimist. Ako se nešto važno polomi dok sam na moru... treba biti oprezan. Taj čamčić nikada nije bio građen da povuče rutu do Kornata. Probati ću prvo doći do Pašmana, pa ću se uz njegovu obalu penjati dok ne dođem do dijela gdje je kanal između Pašmana i Žuta naj uži pa tom rutom nastaviti prema Kornatima. Ako odlučim da je prelazak kanala Pašman-Žut previše rizičan, popeti ću se uz obalu do Ugljan i tamo preći na Iž gdje je kanal još uži.
Igor, Thank you for another great video. Really enjoy watching your sailing travels, and the tips and wisdom you pass on. Your insight into the lagoon catamarans is excellent especially as you have so much knowledge. Thanks
Great video. I used to sail in Croatia. We’re now in Indonesia. Love your videos, don’t like lagoons and you give a few of the reasons. May circumnavigate another time and do this route. Lots of useful information.
Sheltered waters only for Cats. Years ago I crewed for a coupla years on a 41 double-ended steel ketch that displaced around 21 tons. When was the last time anybody saw one of those things?This guy had a 19 foot beam and drew about 6 feet. BUT it could go anywhere and in fact had been around the horn in both directions. I saw what was estimated by the captain about 15 meter waves in it in the North Sea. He did not care what time of year it was either. This boat had an inside steering position that was domed with half a glass sphere. It musta been at least an inch thick! This boat had tiny ports many which were below the waterline on the weather side. They opened outward of course and would slam shut if they got hit by water from the front. all of these ports were only about 20cm diameter. It did have a large hatch though in the forcastle. Musta weighed at least 25kg. What a beast this boat was. however it carried a LOTTA sail with two jibs and of course a huge main & mizzen. He even had a storm jib up during a hurricane did not even bother to make any attempt around it even though it was reading about 940mb. This was in the days of sextants too, sir. this boat had more room below deck than that 50 foot cat. All bunks were gimbled and there was NO V birth.. Ironically it only had a 40hp diesel that pushed it only about 4 knots and the captain outright hated to use it at all. He generally only did that when approaching a dock because if this thing hit it that dock was probably gonna be toast! He preferred to anchor out as mooring was also difficult due to any way it may have been carrying especially during a following sea or wind. yeah it carried about 100 meters of really heavy chain. As stated what a beast! the boat was built in NZ in the 30's. Interesting, huh? Oh one other thing.. wooden masts very heavily stayed. The masts actually looked like they were tared!
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That was absolutely brilliant. I learned more from this than when I did my Day Skipper course. Your explanation of the chart plotter and how it relates to windspeed, apparent wind speed, AIS and Radar use and how to tweak the sails was very informative. If ever you need crew for delivery? Thank you Igor.
Thanks for another great video Igor. You are very successful in your work, you explain and teach all the details in every aspect. If one day I buy a yacht, I can ask you to learn my first rides from you. Igor, I would be grateful if you could test Windello 54.
Thanks for the videos. I've always wanted to sail around the world, but due to motion sickness and my minimal experiences I have had with a mono-hull that I owned for a while I doubt I would make a good sailor.
Interesting that you were sailing with only the genoa- I thought that was not aligned with the Lagoon sail operating procedures? I have recently spent 5 days on a Lagoon 51 and my thoughts were fairly negative. The noise from the engines in the rear cabins was so loud I felt it was a health hazard. Imagine spending €2,000,000 and needing ear defenders to sleep? Also, the access (particularly down) to/from the flybridge was hazardous because of the lack of handholds. I also think that stainless rails are needed on the coach roof near the steps so there are always hand holds for both hands and the protection from falling is somewhat higher than shin level. My suggestion to Lagoon would be to install a dumb waiter to make transporting drinks/food from the rear cockpit up to the flybridge.
Lovely video Igor, very enjoyable plus your insights. I’m very surprised at the shockingly bad sailplan and bad sail handling setup, not helped at all by going with a classic mainsail Mast instead of in Mast Furling, which would have removed the roof problem amongst other issues at a stroke? Best Wishes Bob in Wales who really likes the potential of Catamarans but unfortunately Catamarans really hate me due to the bucking bronco Motion you get when the two hulls connect with a wave at different times- that really does my head in, and has almost thrown me overboard. So for me, no option but to stick with Monohulls, which is ok.👍🌟🌟🌟🙂⛵️❤️
@@IgorStropnik I’m a convert to in Mast furling Igor primarily due to the ease of handling due to my physical disabilities which rule out the Classic mast and Stackpack mainsails. But a. Very important benefit of in mast furling with an aluminium mast is for preventing excessive damage to expensive Sailcloth taking place from UV light exposure, which doesn’t just happen in the Tropics these days, due to the damage Solar Emissions have done to the Ozone Layer. By the way, I agree 100% with B&G having the inexcusable failure to address the auto pilot taking unauthorised breaks by them dropping out with no warning. Raymarine Was suffering from exactly the same problem, but I took Raymarine Customer Support to task for it, and warned that I may not be able to have Raymarine installed on my next Sailboat if the problem wasn’t fixed . So fingers crossed, that problem is over, but a new problem is the top spec displays appear to be very sluggish and laggy, which points to very poor coding and optimisation imho. So right now, the new Garmin gear looks like being the best option ? Raymarine may be having a problem with substandard or faulty graphics chips , as Ire ember simething similar happening with top of the line Nvidia graphics chips, that were seriously flawed, Nvidia knew, but still supplied them to graphics Card manufacturers. I was a Custom Computer Builder at the time, and luckily had a policy of only building with recent generation gear, that had been in the market for at least six months, so all the bug fixes and driver updates, were available, so dodged a bullet, but huge numbers of other makers customers and games developers, were ripping their hair out trying to fix problems that they didn’t know were arising from faulty hardware. At the same time, there were serious faults with AMD processors, and Microsoft had to do an update that declocked them as running at design speed had the CPU outputting garbage - that resulted in AND complying with Microsoft Certification standards, resulting in AMD being pretty good today - perhaps as well, mainly forcing AMD notherboard chipset compliance, as prior, I just couldn’t trust them enough to even offer them to customers.🤣🤣🤣 Best wishes for Fair Winds and Safe Travels. Bob in Wales.🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
@@IgorStropnik In addition to my Sailboat network being hacked by the wrecking Gang working New York Harbour, the iPad and Android Tablets were hacked as well, so like the GPS Chart plotter the heading was all over the place, and when I rebooted everything all my Charts were deleted as well. So I’m working on a Network backup image for a couple of options with Raymarine. For a Basic Recovery, to get out of Dodge to somewhere safe fast, plus a full restoration umage to install when safe. New Jersey State Police were hand in glove with the Wrecking Gang, with all the equipment to do it installed in their Helicopter.,NJ Local Police were brilliant, when it all sank in with them, I was provided with an armed Policewoman Bodyguard, believe it or not. It looks like I was the first person to survive an attack by that Wrecking Gang, thanks to me having a long keel shallow draft boat,tough enough to get me through it alive,before the boat sank and was a total loss off New Jersey- brilliant beach lifeguards got me off it, and into an ambulance to the local hospital. I met a lot of wonderful people in New Jersey tbh. Best wishes. Bob. 👍🙂⛵️❤️
I am not sure the rigging is made to take the two sails side by side. Lagoon could not confirm to me that this is advisable and to what maximum wind speeds. do you have any take on this?
Hi Igor! Ive been watching your videos for quite some time and I love them, most honest reviews you can find on youtube. We have been cruising on motor boats for the last 12 years, currently owning Azimut 47. We are thinking about trying out a catamaran. What catamaran would you recommend for family of 5 for sailing the mediterranean?
G'day Igor, Can you tell me if the Raymarine plotter has VMG like the B & G plotter ? Love watching your videos. I'm in south eastern Australia 100 miles north of Sydney and would love to sail to the med. Long way . Regards, Ian.
Nice passage and a great review! Any new Lagoon model requires many small and big fixes/updates and once they are all done 5 years later, they discontinue the model and start from scratch! 😁 Happens all the time with them. Can't you furl the code 0 when going downwind? Should be perfectly possible.
@@IgorStropnik what I meant with furling downwind is that you say in the video that you first want to bring the genoa to the same side (then there are problems with the only winch there, etc), so that genoa blocks the wind and then furl code 0 in the shadow of the genoa. But can't you just furl it as it is? I thought it should be no problem even with 20 knots of apparent wind. Or not?
Hi Igor, what do you think, is built quality getting better? I remember an earlier Video from you on a Lagoon 42 that do strange noises. I did not recognized a better built quality at furnishes. actually I was at Boat Show at La Grand Motte in April, I saw an new Lagoon but I couldn't´t get onto it. I visit also my favorite a Privilege signature 510 named ONA. But also all other Brand like Leopard Bali and Seawind and other more... But I will do a turn with you somewhere around Croatia, I will contact you. (I can cook 🙂)Kind Regards Buggy
Lagoon have an awful reputation, poor craftsmanship, not structurally sound. Inexpensive, but only good gir charter around the Bay not for blue water cruising. They are badly built, ask any surveyor.
@@laurence9695 I think construction standards have improved a lot tbh, but I would seriously advise trying catamarans before buying one tbh, because much as I’ve liked the potential with Catamarans, they positively hate me, as the Bucking Bronco type motion resulting from the hulls connecting with a wave at different times, I found impossible to cope with, and the four to five feet vertical faced waves that are common in the Irish Sea, almost had me catapulted over the side of the boat of a Prout Catamarans I was interested in buying, back in the 1980’s. Owning one seemed very attractive after reading Rosie Swales book (she lived up the road here at the time). Back then I was young and Superfit, but that Motion really did my head in. So No option but to stick with Monohulls for me. I may well be in the minority of people badly affected though. As Frik and Pietru seem to manage fine with that motion when it visibly hits on their Leopard 45 and their Sailing Sisu channel on RUclips? Fingers crossed, you’ll nor be affected. Best wishes. Bob. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
Why is there a towel stuffed in the base of the window (1:06:10) I assume they are leaking as is common? There is a nice roll up shade there so not to block the light.
Great inside. Great video. What qualification or course would you suggest to take for somebody who lives on a small budget and who wants to go sailing around the world on a 30 foot sailboat? Thank you.
Do the suppliers provide a speed polar diagram? It might show it is faster to sail at 160 apparent wind direction and gybe (three times the spell checker changed this to gynaecology - sorry)
There are too many cabins. I would prefer to have an office instead. The television is also quite small; I don't think it's big enough for a movie party. It was a nice presentation, thank you.
@@IgorStropnik From the little I have seen of this arrangement there does not seem to be much structural support for the spinnaker nor the guard rail(for that matter) but I was not sure this was the official location? thank you
Hey Igor, which cat would you recommend for sailing around the world, doing circumnavigation with comfort for a family but also big and fast enough to be able to go easily in many different places around the world? I really like the flybridge on cats but its not a must have for me. I was looking maybe for something like the lagoon 500 but it also doesn’t have to be a lagoon. I just like the layout and flybridge on the most lagoon models. 😅🤙
Good on you Igor, Juddy here, (;{~ I really liked your addition of wind direction, compass and speed, I really enjoy your content full stop, I hope you continue making content in the future, your a great personality mate, your accent is enjoyable and your English is very good too.. 😊👍 thanks for the entertainment and education..
@@IgorStropnik is that because you were downwind or running reach? So you can't even have the mainsail out on a cat when doing broad reach? That's pretty crazy
@@IgorStropnik I agree and I avoid marinas whenever possible but most of this boats are for charter so going in and out of marinas quite often. With competent crew it is not a problem but with only guests on board it is quite a challenge. :) Otherwise, looks like really great boat. I like that they finally moved the mast forward and gave up that useless self tacking jib. Have fun
Igor - wont the mast moved forward make it bear away more in a gust and pitch that pointy hull downwards too? also shouldn't the fly bridge come forward up to the mast to close up the horrible hole under the boom to improve the sail's efficiency?
With flybridge you want classic genova ( no self tacking) and mast forward with long boom to keep centre of effort low. It’s not racing boat. It just works better like that from my experience. Hulls have plenty volume so no problem pitching. It’s vacation boat so comfort first.
Lagoon, oh no! Poor workmanship, not a blue water vessel. Seems decks are just glued on, not even fibreglassed. Same for bulkheads. Great for charter, as they can last 3 seasons, then start falling apart for the owners to take over. So many awful reviews. A shame for Beneteau nuilding them. 😢
Thanks for the insight. Please tell me what catamaran manufacturer you would recommend. I’m looking for a luxury cruiser that offers spacious cabins, a large living area and a flybridge without destroying my piggy bank. Please advise.
@@robertkrebs4192lagoons are still considered the best Catamaran manufacturer.. they outsell every brand by a mile. They have had some issues with some of the mid sized models in the past but overall they are considered the best.. people just like to hate on them because they’re the most popular manufacturer honestly.
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How do you like Speed, Map and Compass overlay data? Should I keep it in future videos?
One of the few channels on youtube when i am always glad to wait as long as it takes for the new post. They are just that awesome and well worth the wait. Thank you very much!
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This is one of the most comprehensive Lagoon 51 videos on RUclips. I’ve watched all of them because I am waiting for mine to be built in Bordeaux by Jan/Feb. I will be bringing it to Greece for charter. Thank you for all your great informative videos on catamarans.
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What a good skipper are you. The route planning, usage of the sails- so safe, comfortable and professional. One exception- sugar consumption your only flaw as a captain.
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Love your videos Igor. Had a beneteau 473 for 13 years. The maintenance was never ending and the quality of workmanship by Beneteau - who also makes lagoon - I give it 2 out of 5 quality
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Great video, great honest comments and great walktrough. Thanks Igor 😀
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Been watching this channel for a min and just decided to stream in on the TV and didn’t realize how much more beautiful it is on the TV lol.. completely different vibe 👍
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Another great video Igor. I enjoy your straight shooting comments, both good and bad, about the boats you sail. Waiting patiently for your next one. 😊
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Man, I watched it all. My dream is to get the license and to go to Croatian islands on a catamaran. Thanks for the video. Learned something for myself. All the best to you, good man!
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Your reviews, and vids are the best 🛥️💨
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Spomenuli ste u jednom trenutku autopilot i da ga se treba držati na modu u kojemu drži smjer vjetra kada brod jedri. Generalno pravilo je:
1) kada se ide u vjetar - namjestite ga da drži prividni vjetar (apparent wind)
2) kada idete niz vjetar, namjestite ga da drži stvarni vjetar (true wind), zato da se ne okrene prema vjetru kada ga pogodi reful, što bi napravio da je na AWA modu.
3) kada ne idete u vjetar ili niz vjetar (kad Vam je s boka) onda ga stavite na kompas, jer ste brži ako brod vozi direktnijom rutom umjesto da prati vjetar i okolo krivuda.
Također, ne volim Raymarine elektroniku. B&G je uvijek bio i bit će kralj jedriličarske elektronike. Raymarine je veća kompanija i puno više proizvode, ali oni primarno proizvode elektroniku za motornjake. B&G je specifično dizajniran za jedrenje, sa njihovim sistemom za postavljanje bova na karti i računjanja laylinesa i naj efikasnijih kutova za svaki specifični brod. Prije 2 mjeseca sam porinuo svoju novu Bavariu 46 sa B&G elektronikom, i već vidim zašto su neki proizvođači izbacili B&G. Što je proizvod sofisticiraniji, to je teže početniku da se navikne taj proizvod koristiti. Većina ljudi uopće nije niti svjesna što sve B&G nudi i zato im je jednostavna i oskudna Raymarine oprema sasvim dovoljna.
Također, nevjerojatno da je Garmin totalno ispao iz igre...
Također, nevezano za to, planiram ovo ljeto jednu puno veću avanturu sa mojim starim drvenim optimistom! Smislio sam efektivnu metodu spavanja na čamcu, što otvara horizonte koji su jako daleko od Vrgade. Naravno i dalje treba biti oprezan. Ipak je to stari drveni optimist. Ako se nešto važno polomi dok sam na moru... treba biti oprezan. Taj čamčić nikada nije bio građen da povuče rutu do Kornata. Probati ću prvo doći do Pašmana, pa ću se uz njegovu obalu penjati dok ne dođem do dijela gdje je kanal između Pašmana i Žuta naj uži pa tom rutom nastaviti prema Kornatima. Ako odlučim da je prelazak kanala Pašman-Žut previše rizičan, popeti ću se uz obalu do Ugljan i tamo preći na Iž gdje je kanal još uži.
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Hands down-- The Best Sailing Channel!
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Thanks for posting, Igor! Always enjoy your videos and honest opinions concerning these beautiful sailboats. Interesting to see how the 1% can live.
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Igor, Thank you for another great video. Really enjoy watching your sailing travels, and the tips and wisdom you pass on. Your insight into the lagoon catamarans is excellent especially as you have so much knowledge. Thanks
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One of the best RUclips channels. I love watching Igor's videos!
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I think the same, luckily found it by youtube suggestion. Simple and funny explanation. Good work Igor. Pozdrav !
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Course and speed on vid is a super nice feature. TY for another vid Igor!
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Laptop connecting to my 75" TV. Next - beer, shisha and 2.5hours to watch ;) Thank you
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Great video. I used to sail in Croatia. We’re now in Indonesia. Love your videos, don’t like lagoons and you give a few of the reasons. May circumnavigate another time and do this route. Lots of useful information.
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Back again! Many thanx for the video and safe sailing! 👍
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Sheltered waters only for Cats. Years ago I crewed for a coupla years on a 41 double-ended steel ketch that displaced around 21 tons. When was the last time anybody saw one of those things?This guy had a 19 foot beam and drew about 6 feet. BUT it could go anywhere and in fact had been around the horn in both directions. I saw what was estimated by the captain about 15 meter waves in it in the North Sea. He did not care what time of year it was either. This boat had an inside steering position that was domed with half a glass sphere. It musta been at least an inch thick! This boat had tiny ports many which were below the waterline on the weather side. They opened outward of course and would slam shut if they got hit by water from the front. all of these ports were only about 20cm diameter. It did have a large hatch though in the forcastle. Musta weighed at least 25kg. What a beast this boat was. however it carried a LOTTA sail with two jibs and of course a huge main & mizzen. He even had a storm jib up during a hurricane did not even bother to make any attempt around it even though it was reading about 940mb. This was in the days of sextants too, sir. this boat had more room below deck than that 50 foot cat. All bunks were gimbled and there was NO V birth.. Ironically it only had a 40hp diesel that pushed it only about 4 knots and the captain outright hated to use it at all. He generally only did that when approaching a dock because if this thing hit it that dock was probably gonna be toast! He preferred to anchor out as mooring was also difficult due to any way it may have been carrying especially during a following sea or wind. yeah it carried about 100 meters of really heavy chain. As stated what a beast! the boat was built in NZ in the 30's. Interesting, huh? Oh one other thing.. wooden masts very heavily stayed. The masts actually looked like they were tared!
Interesting, most of my 250 000 miles of yacht deliveries have been crossing oceans in "sheltered waters only" Cats
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I love the genuine love in the boat show.
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Watched the entire thing as usual. Thanks man.
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Brilliant, can't wait too watch, love you vibs
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@IgorStropnik excellent and as a non sailer atm informative as ever and always learn something looking forward to next one
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Thanks igor. Great job as usual.
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That was absolutely brilliant. I learned more from this than when I did my Day Skipper course. Your explanation of the chart plotter and how it relates to windspeed, apparent wind speed, AIS and Radar use and how to tweak the sails was very informative. If ever you need crew for delivery? Thank you Igor.
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What a great video! Thanks for uploading.
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the Cat man is back ! 😺
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looks like there's not much to complain - nice boat
Thanks for another great video Igor. You are very successful in your work, you explain and teach all the details in every aspect. If one day I buy a yacht, I can ask you to learn my first rides from you. Igor, I would be grateful if you could test Windello 54.
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door lock is probably high on the inside so small children cant unlock it and drown ! love yours video's and that boat.
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love the videos, so helpful and fun to watch. If you had to pick, would you go with Lagoon 51 or the last Leopard 50 you sailed?
Leopard 50 with L51 flybridge
Thanks for the videos. I've always wanted to sail around the world, but due to motion sickness and my minimal experiences I have had with a mono-hull that I owned for a while I doubt I would make a good sailor.
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I would love to watch you vlog while sailing on a trimaran like a dragonfly or a corsair.
I enjoy watching your content.
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Excellent Igor! another good video.
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I would like to see Igor sail a Rapido 40 , 53xs or 60 and do fast crossing
igor you need to upload more my friend 🥲 missed you
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Interesting that you were sailing with only the genoa- I thought that was not aligned with the Lagoon sail operating procedures? I have recently spent 5 days on a Lagoon 51 and my thoughts were fairly negative. The noise from the engines in the rear cabins was so loud I felt it was a health hazard. Imagine spending €2,000,000 and needing ear defenders to sleep? Also, the access (particularly down) to/from the flybridge was hazardous because of the lack of handholds. I also think that stainless rails are needed on the coach roof near the steps so there are always hand holds for both hands and the protection from falling is somewhat higher than shin level. My suggestion to Lagoon would be to install a dumb waiter to make transporting drinks/food from the rear cockpit up to the flybridge.
There is a lot of discussion about genova only. It’s confusing. It’s charter boat by nature.
tie a temporary rope to connect both hand rails.
Lovely video Igor, very enjoyable plus your insights. I’m very surprised at the shockingly bad sailplan and bad sail handling setup, not helped at all by going with a classic mainsail Mast instead of in Mast Furling, which would have removed the roof problem amongst other issues at a stroke? Best Wishes Bob in Wales who really likes the potential of Catamarans but unfortunately Catamarans really hate me due to the bucking bronco Motion you get when the two hulls connect with a wave at different times- that really does my head in, and has almost thrown me overboard. So for me, no option but to stick with Monohulls, which is ok.👍🌟🌟🌟🙂⛵️❤️
Thanks 🙏 Yes this boats should have furling main. They don’t because it looks better with fully buttoned main and good for marketing.
@@IgorStropnik I’m a convert to in Mast furling Igor primarily due to the ease of handling due to my physical disabilities which rule out the Classic mast and Stackpack mainsails. But a. Very important benefit of in mast furling with an aluminium mast is for preventing excessive damage to expensive Sailcloth taking place from UV light exposure, which doesn’t just happen in the Tropics these days, due to the damage Solar Emissions have done to the Ozone Layer. By the way, I agree 100% with B&G having the inexcusable failure to address the auto pilot taking unauthorised breaks by them dropping out with no warning. Raymarine Was suffering from exactly the same problem, but I took Raymarine Customer Support to task for it, and warned that I may not be able to have Raymarine installed on my next Sailboat if the problem wasn’t fixed . So fingers crossed, that problem is over, but a new problem is the top spec displays appear to be very sluggish and laggy, which points to very poor coding and optimisation imho. So right now, the new Garmin gear looks like being the best option ? Raymarine may be having a problem with substandard or faulty graphics chips , as Ire ember simething similar happening with top of the line Nvidia graphics chips, that were seriously flawed, Nvidia knew, but still supplied them to graphics Card manufacturers. I was a Custom Computer Builder at the time, and luckily had a policy of only building with recent generation gear, that had been in the market for at least six months, so all the bug fixes and driver updates, were available, so dodged a bullet, but huge numbers of other makers customers and games developers, were ripping their hair out trying to fix problems that they didn’t know were arising from faulty hardware. At the same time, there were serious faults with AMD processors, and Microsoft had to do an update that declocked them as running at design speed had the CPU outputting garbage - that resulted in AND complying with Microsoft Certification standards, resulting in AMD being pretty good today - perhaps as well, mainly forcing AMD notherboard chipset compliance, as prior, I just couldn’t trust them enough to even offer them to customers.🤣🤣🤣 Best wishes for Fair Winds and Safe Travels. Bob in Wales.🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
@@brownnoise357 Why not just iPad waterproof dock. Easy to replace, cheaper and works well. And just monohull mast with furling. 🙌👍🍻
@@IgorStropnik In addition to my Sailboat network being hacked by the wrecking Gang working New York Harbour, the iPad and Android Tablets were hacked as well, so like the GPS Chart plotter the heading was all over the place, and when I rebooted everything all my Charts were deleted as well. So I’m working on a Network backup image for a couple of options with Raymarine. For a Basic Recovery, to get out of Dodge to somewhere safe fast, plus a full restoration umage to install when safe. New Jersey State Police were hand in glove with the Wrecking Gang, with all the equipment to do it installed in their Helicopter.,NJ Local Police were brilliant, when it all sank in with them, I was provided with an armed Policewoman Bodyguard, believe it or not. It looks like I was the first person to survive an attack by that Wrecking Gang, thanks to me having a long keel shallow draft boat,tough enough to get me through it alive,before the boat sank and was a total loss off New Jersey- brilliant beach lifeguards got me off it, and into an ambulance to the local hospital. I met a lot of wonderful people in New Jersey tbh. Best wishes. Bob. 👍🙂⛵️❤️
beautiful trip Igor
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Thankyou for watching. Enjoy sailing. So perfectly Igor :)
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I am not sure the rigging is made to take the two sails side by side. Lagoon could not confirm to me that this is advisable and to what maximum wind speeds. do you have any take on this?
As I explained in this video and others. Lagoon will eventually have to explain.
Hi Igor! Ive been watching your videos for quite some time and I love them, most honest reviews you can find on youtube. We have been cruising on motor boats for the last 12 years, currently owning Azimut 47. We are thinking about trying out a catamaran. What catamaran would you recommend for family of 5 for sailing the mediterranean?
Thanks 🙏 Any catamaran is good for med.
Two kilowatts photovoltaic solar array is same size array as at my house in Colorado.
After 15min of watching. Lagoon should rebuild everything, too many small faults.😂
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Beautiful boat... which one do you like better - the Leopard 50 or the Lagoon 51 ?
Leopard 50 with Lagoon 51 flybridge.
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Hi Igor, how many days to complete the circumnavigation of Italy from France to Dubrovnik? Congratulations
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G'day Igor, Can you tell me if the Raymarine plotter has VMG like the B & G plotter ? Love watching your videos. I'm in south eastern Australia 100 miles north of Sydney and would love to sail to the med. Long way .
Regards, Ian.
Thanks 🙏 Probably yes but can’t remember. Have b@g right now so can’t check.
How do you get the speed (in Knots) in the video? do you need a Garmin cam? it's really interesting - thanks
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It’s a lot of work. Wish it would be simpler.
How do you sail it in there? I could never.
Nice passage and a great review!
Any new Lagoon model requires many small and big fixes/updates and once they are all done 5 years later, they discontinue the model and start from scratch! 😁 Happens all the time with them.
Can't you furl the code 0 when going downwind? Should be perfectly possible.
Thanks 🙏 Code 0 always furls downwind.
@@IgorStropnik what I meant with furling downwind is that you say in the video that you first want to bring the genoa to the same side (then there are problems with the only winch there, etc), so that genoa blocks the wind and then furl code 0 in the shadow of the genoa. But can't you just furl it as it is? I thought it should be no problem even with 20 knots of apparent wind. Or not?
@@awanderer9000 Doesn’t furl nice and easy so better make shade.
Hi Igor, what do you think, is built quality getting better? I remember an earlier Video from you on a Lagoon 42 that do strange noises. I did not recognized a better built quality at furnishes. actually I was at Boat Show at La Grand Motte in April, I saw an new Lagoon but I couldn't´t get onto it. I visit also my favorite a Privilege signature 510 named ONA. But also all other Brand like Leopard Bali and Seawind and other more... But I will do a turn with you somewhere around Croatia, I will contact you. (I can cook 🙂)Kind Regards Buggy
Lagoon have an awful reputation, poor craftsmanship, not structurally sound. Inexpensive, but only good gir charter around the Bay not for blue water cruising. They are badly built, ask any surveyor.
@@laurence9695 I think construction standards have improved a lot tbh, but I would seriously advise trying catamarans before buying one tbh, because much as I’ve liked the potential with Catamarans, they positively hate me, as the Bucking Bronco type motion resulting from the hulls connecting with a wave at different times, I found impossible to cope with, and the four to five feet vertical faced waves that are common in the Irish Sea, almost had me catapulted over the side of the boat of a Prout Catamarans I was interested in buying, back in the 1980’s. Owning one seemed very attractive after reading Rosie Swales book (she lived up the road here at the time). Back then I was young and Superfit, but that Motion really did my head in. So No option but to stick with Monohulls for me. I may well be in the minority of people badly affected though. As Frik and Pietru seem to manage fine with that motion when it visibly hits on their Leopard 45 and their Sailing Sisu channel on RUclips? Fingers crossed, you’ll nor be affected. Best wishes. Bob. 🤔🌟🌟🌟👍❤️
Why is there a towel stuffed in the base of the window (1:06:10) I assume they are leaking as is common?
There is a nice roll up shade there so not to block the light.
Towel is just drying. No leeks
@@IgorStropnik Thank Goodness, many of the big name cat builders have had issues, good to see a nice one come out of the factory.
Great inside. Great video. What qualification or course would you suggest to take for somebody who lives on a small budget and who wants to go sailing around the world on a 30 foot sailboat? Thank you.
Thanks 🙏 RYA has the best teaching system.
@@IgorStropnik Thank you. All the best.
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It is interesting that you never used the main sail.
I agree - I am pretty athletic and would avoid climbing up there if possible- I think that is why minimal mainsail use.
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Do the suppliers provide a speed polar diagram? It might show it is faster to sail at 160 apparent wind direction and gybe (three times the spell checker changed this to gynaecology - sorry)
I haven’t seen them but they should have them.
hey Igor in mast sail or traditional one which is better you think?
In mast easier, traditional better performance
There are too many cabins. I would prefer to have an office instead. The television is also quite small; I don't think it's big enough for a movie party.
It was a nice presentation, thank you.
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If you had a spinnaker large enough - would you connect it to the foredeck if there is a space there or to the side of the outside hull?
Foredeck on top. That’s where I have seen many.
@@IgorStropnik From the little I have seen of this arrangement there does not seem to be much structural support for the spinnaker nor the guard rail(for that matter) but I was not sure this was the official location? thank you
That forefeck is just glued down, not fibreglassed in... a disaster waiting to happen.
@@laurence9695 Not all models.
Hey Igor, which cat would you recommend for sailing around the world, doing circumnavigation with comfort for a family but also big and fast enough to be able to go easily in many different places around the world? I really like the flybridge on cats but its not a must have for me. I was looking maybe for something like the lagoon 500 but it also doesn’t have to be a lagoon. I just like the layout and flybridge on the most lagoon models. 😅🤙
Custom aluminium catamaran 😃
Yeah those are also really nice👍 do you know some catamaran manufacturers where i can find alu catamarans?
@@FastWavez ovni, garcia
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Portofino 52
Is Lagoon 51 the most liked from Lagoon's from you?
That’s complicated…each model is specific
Wow first comment. Like your videos
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Excellent as always
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What is the app you are using ti film with that shows the boat speed?
goprotelemetryextractor.com
no access to the flybridge whilst underway, you should have opened the lazy bag whilst in the marina.
Good on you Igor, Juddy here, (;{~ I really liked your addition of wind direction, compass and speed, I really enjoy your content full stop, I hope you continue making content in the future, your a great personality mate, your accent is enjoyable and your English is very good too.. 😊👍 thanks for the entertainment and education..
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I'm a novice but can you explain why you never popped out the main sail? Wouldn't the boat go much faster?
On these cruising cats with no vang sail gets on shrouds very quickly. On monohull you can do it as rig is different.
@@IgorStropnik is that because you were downwind or running reach? So you can't even have the mainsail out on a cat when doing broad reach? That's pretty crazy
@@phaioncirrus3818 Depending on sea conditions and wind strength.
lagoon should get this man to consult
The thing sails like a truck but it seems like a great med barge.
@3:26 Why are there 17 electrical wires going into the mast?
Good question…
Great video
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What's about docking in marinas ??? Still can't see anything when going backwards ?? For me, that is biggest drawback on 46, 50, 51...
Not fun going to marina.
@@IgorStropnik I agree and I avoid marinas whenever possible but most of this boats are for charter so going in and out of marinas quite often. With competent crew it is not a problem but with only guests on board it is quite a challenge. :) Otherwise, looks like really great boat. I like that they finally moved the mast forward and gave up that useless self tacking jib. Have fun
Install a camera at the top of the mast pointing down...perfect visibility.
If you were buying a boat for yourself…… Would you have this or the leopard 50?
Probably something faster.
@@IgorStropnik something like a gunbout or Outremer?
@@FastWavez Yes need to try them 👍
How to get boat like this? These are so expensive and salaries in Finland are not great
Igor - wont the mast moved forward make it bear away more in a gust and pitch that pointy hull downwards too? also shouldn't the fly bridge come forward up to the mast to close up the horrible hole under the boom to improve the sail's efficiency?
With flybridge you want classic genova ( no self tacking) and mast forward with long boom to keep centre of effort low. It’s not racing boat. It just works better like that from my experience. Hulls have plenty volume so no problem pitching. It’s vacation boat so comfort first.
Planujesz może jakieś odcinki w polskiej wersji językowej?
There is auto translation in YT.
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don't run freshwater through the water maker that often.
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Nice layout of the 51. What does annoy me is the tv sitting on the countertop. 9 to 12 inches higher would not look so crowded.
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😂 27 knots ? it seems to me 10 knots
Lagoon, oh no! Poor workmanship, not a blue water vessel. Seems decks are just glued on, not even fibreglassed. Same for bulkheads. Great for charter, as they can last 3 seasons, then start falling apart for the owners to take over. So many awful reviews. A shame for Beneteau nuilding them. 😢
Thanks for the insight. Please tell me what catamaran manufacturer you would recommend. I’m looking for a luxury cruiser that offers spacious cabins, a large living area and a flybridge without destroying my piggy bank. Please advise.
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@@robertkrebs4192lagoons are still considered the best Catamaran manufacturer.. they outsell every brand by a mile. They have had some issues with some of the mid sized models in the past but overall they are considered the best.. people just like to hate on them because they’re the most popular manufacturer honestly.
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