Episode 6. MPG on our Honda insight with $99 dollar lawnmower engine
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2020
- Episode 6.
We test the fuel economy on our little Honda with a $99 predator engine. The results are quite a surprise.
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Episode 1. • Episode 1. We put a $...
Episode 2. • Episode 2. $99 Pred...
Episode 3 • Episode 3. We build a...
Episode 4 • Episode 4. We put a s...
Episode 5 • Episode 5. $99 lawnmo...
Episode 6 • Episode 6. MPG on our...
Episode 7 • Episode 7. We get th...
Episode 8 • Episode 8. We take a c...
Episode 9. • Episode 9. Honda insig...
Episode 10. • Episode 10. We do so...
Episode 11. • Episode 11. We begin t...
Episode 12. • Episode 12. We put a ...
Episode 14. • Episode 14. 420 Hemi ...
Episode 15. • Episode 15. We finish ... 
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he spills the gas every time on purpose
it is to troll the whiners
it is brilliant and I applaud the attention to detail
just like testing mpg with a window down
More fuel is wasted by SUVs at stoplights in cities than by spilling gas going into a lawn mower.
Can you imagining seeing a guy in Walmart parking lot string-starting his Honda car, dropping the hood, and driving off? Can you set up a video of people reacting to your engine starts?
Around here, I'm surprised I haven't seen that yet. I did see an ancient van with Minnesota plate last year with an add on air conditioner. The air conditioner was hanging from the back door window (the appropriate duct tape to fill the voids). The generator to run it was just below on a luggage rack mounted in the Reese hitch pocket. Nicely self contained. I was going to ask the owner about the set up, but he and his lady friend didn't appear to be the types that would greet questions with much humor.
I want to see him take it to a mechanic and tell them its really sluggish and it sounds funny.
@@cdjhyoung you never know until you ask...
Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
Lol
Human ingenuity is terrifying
So American thing: "Under the hood is hiding a little 2.8 V6"
Well, seeing as Caddy was running an 8.3(?)L, 500 cu in V8 in the 70s...yes, a sub-3L V6 (Really?!) is positively puny.
P.S. economy doesn't scale by displacement, ESPECIALLY if you include forced induction. Semi trucks are efficient for their size, and they get their efficiency by running MASSIVE engines at low RPM and minimizing internal frictional losses.
Me crying in 1.4L 16v
@@zanmk69 Is that a chevy cruze eco? :-P
This CTS was available with a 6.0 liter V8 I believe.
I believe in the later versions there was even a 6.2 l supercharged V8. Basically the Corvette engine. In a four-door luxury sedan. They were pretty badass. And surprisingly even with that big V8 they were reasonably fuel efficient on the highway if you kept your foot out of it and the speed under 70. My friend had a ZO6 Corvette we used to get close to 30 miles per gallon in it.
you want to keep in mind that miles per gallon in the US is different than miles per gallon in the UK because our gallon is about 20% smaller than the one in the UK.
@@francoisdesmarquis8548 Nah, its Renault Clio 😅
I didn't know that there is one more card in rock, scissor and paper. That's powerful.
I think they were throwing dynamite in the mix...
@Odin Von Oslo And here in Québec, we have rock paper scissors match and occasionnally, toilet bowl.
We have tuk tuks running on similar engines fuelled by LPG over here in India!
Perfectly serviceable for city speeds
so it gets gas mileage like an old 3 cylinder Geo Metro with a 5 speed transmission, and 4x more gutless... I'd call it a success, not trying to be sarcastic or trolling with that, when it breaks down you can replace the engine for less than the price of a car battery!
The blue book value on the geo metro hit -$200.
You can replace the car for the cost of a new battery
My friend had 3 cylinder one silver he used hall ass from VMI to his house in Fairfax
Dude you should run it again with the Caddy in front - it's the right thing to do, and it would be a really good video by itself anyway
I'm officially complaining... you spilled multiple drops of fuel on both the first and second pours with the funnel.
lmao
But the real question is where did he get the old school filler? We're all stuck spilling gas with those new regulation spouts.
@@ninjamaster3453 If I'm not mistaken you can get them off ebay
@@ninjamaster3453 I 3d printed replacements for mine the files are in thingiverse I think
@@ninjamaster3453 The good (relatively speaking) new ones don't let any fuel flow until you brace it against the lip and push a lever thing. Works pretty well if there's enough clearance.
The only other good modern ones I've seen are Eagle Safety Cans. Big ass handle you squeeze to open a huge spot that pours into a detachable funnel.
Quiet possibly the greatest example of a “meanwhile in rural Michigan” montage ever.
the Cadillac is "drafting" the Honda, so the Caddie's fuel mileage is better than if the Caddie led, and the Honda followed it.
If the caddie is close enough the Honda also gets a reduction in drag because of the interrupted vortices.
I don't think the Honda was going fast enough to generate turbulent airflow.
At laminar flow speeds there is no "drift pocket" no difference between stacked up vs spaced out.
If you ain't first, you're last!
And the caddy is idling along while the Honda is wfo
😂😂😂😂
Guy: "Manual gives sports car feel"
Europeans: wat
Europeans: automatic is for disabled people.
Toyota yaris 1.0 feel
@@chriskwakernaat2328 Why do you think it's the default for Americans? 😏
@@Phoen1x883 Ooof, shots fired.
Man, I just went to Project Farm's last video and left a comment saying (roughly) YOOOOOOO Y'all need to check this guy out!
I remember PF in beginning, making video with style like this
54 mpg going close to top speed is really good. If you ran the caddy at close to top speed it would get considerably less than 31mpg.
Mileage was not bad but it's interesting that the factory 4 cylinder engine with close to 100 horsepower got the same gas mileage as this setup. Of course you had the hybrid system to help you. But there were Honda crx's that weigh about the same as this insight back in the early '90s that we're getting into the mid 50 miles per gallon with just naturally aspirated 4 cylinder engines. the problem is this engine is running at near full throttle which is not really optimal for efficiency. You will probably end up doing better with a larger displacement engine that would allow you to cruise at about 50% -75% throttle.
Actually, the factory engine was a 3 cylinder, and it only has 72hp. And no, it doesn't get the same mileage as this - I own a manual 2002, and average around 65mpg, though some people can get as much as 75 in a stock car depending on environment and driving conditions. Having said that, I love this project and it's awesome to see the first gen insights getting some exposure, even if that means swapping out the engine :)
@@Demdere
Your right.. about the 3cly. Found that out later.
My point was the efficiency of the stock much larger , much more powerful engine was actually more efficient.
Though it would be less without the IMA hybrid assist part.
Loved the insight.. test drove one when they were new.. was great.
Think they were about the same price as a civic at the time.
@@kens97sto171 Don't forget smog equipment really decreases the MPG of a engine.
@@jtto6364
In older cars yes.. anything newer 90's forward not as much. Port fuel injection and catalytic converters took care of most of that. The old air injection stuff was terrible.
But new cars have less stuff. Cats, EGR, and port and direct injection make stuff pretty clean to begin with.
That simple carb setup on the predator is not nearly as efficient as any new engine,
Would be interesting to see him mod the engines.. you can buy aftermarket fuel injection setups.. for stuff like this. Would be cool to see him test a bunch of different stuff and see what effect bit has.
So theCRX hf weighed in at 2100 pounds from the factory. HF stood for high fuel and they did get into the 50s. Honda didn’t make any lighter cars than that.
I had a 91 dx 5sp and would get 42-45 mpg on the regular it was all stock and had 300,000 miles on it.
Also this car has had the hybrid system removed and that is a ton of weight. I would love to purchase this shell when he is finished with it. I don’t know why but I always loved these cars
I have an idea, let’s put an extension cord to the engine so we can star the car 🚗 from inside 😃😅
Or from the grille
get a passenger to do it
Shocked and amazed at the amount of mechanical + electrical garbage you REMOVED from this tiny car !
this channel is just good fun cant wait for my son to see this
Once had Ford Pinto with old worn out 2300 ( about a 1972 ) and it was so weak it probably had about 20 hp.
You had to pet the dashboard to get up to speed.
Probably a lot like driving your Honda.
Then in 2010 I had Ford Escort wagon, close to same size, with 1800 or 1900 motor and 200,000 miles rated at 90hp.
and it was fast as hell.
What a difference 20 years makes.
Cadillac manual? True man of culture
I never learned to drive an automatic.
@@robotcantina8957 Drove my old man's once. Made me sleepy and ran red light. Literally happened after like ten min. Manuals only, as long as they exist
I am seriously impressed. I can see folks who just need a around town car who would like to have this car. As long as the regular fuel tank is connected to the carb with a low pressure electric fuel pump, so folks wouldnt be inconvenienced by your refuel method. Oh, an electric starter would be nifty. Easy enough to do.
Absolutely love the "Hill Billie" music. No lie. Oh, great job on the rebuild as well. Very Kool. 😎
I knew it had to get decent mileage. Cool video. Keep up the great work!
Thanks! 👍
What was the mileage with the radio on?
I was one of your viewers asking you what is the gas mileage
Thank you for making these videos
I fucking love your channel! This is just top notch. Your humour is amazing!
When he dump fuel all over the engine.
Mostly thanks to the "environmentally friendly" gas can spout.
54 miles per gallon that's awesome 😎
Your videos are so interesting that I became a subscriber to your channel once again thank you for sharing
It's be interesting to see another run with the Honda drafting the Caddy this time 😊
If you keep making videos this high quality your gonna have 100k subs in no time!!
1986 Honda CRX HF got 42mpg city and 51mpg per gallon. 35 years later and we are trying to beat those numbers. Meanwhile we have super cars that crush numbers above 200 mph records like every year.
My sister had the exact same color Honda Insight. When it was new, she averaged 70mpg!
This video is brilliant. This should have way more views
Great series!! I still don't understand how the transmission works, but i'm glad you do!
Hi Doug, Unfortunately I did not document any of the actual build information, however when we switch to the 420 cc engine in a future episode there will be a full explanation how everything works and how it is put together. Stay tuned!
Robot Cantina I will stay tuned for sure!!
Awesome video, I quit worrying about the fuel mileage when I saw how much fun you were having°°°
I knew a guy with a Honda insight. He told me he got 70 miles a gallon on the interstate.
this came up after watching a video on an original 2cv with a 12 hp engine....this is interesting to see what can be done with a small engine, keep going, the big engine will be a rocket! lol
I'm really interested to see how the 420 swapped version compares with the 2CV.
Y u gotta be so smart and creative? Makes me feel like a big dummy
Love the project. Keep up the awesome work!
Omg I'm so glad I came across your channel 🤣
54mpg from a China made "$99" lawnmower engine...
Many of these are Honda knockoffs.
I just got lost ended up here it fkn beautiful
I mean car manufacturers waste millions on developing new engines
Love this series so far! The humor style is awesome!
Amazing work buddy !
This just seems like the kind of eccentric engineering and tinkering that goes on in Britain
good production, funny, and brutally honest. thumbed up
I wish more videos on YT had some carefree sarcasm like this channel does.
This is a great project series. Many thanks for sharing it! 😊👍👍
So the insight you have is a hybrid. It was the first hybrid in the states. They would often get in the 50mpg range. The hypermilers would get the 70+ mpg. That Honda was awesome back in the day despite its looks. I still want to own one. And Cadillac is the gold standard in America’s eyes yes. But not very respected in the rest of the world. Cadillac has extremely low quality and the highest depreciation value of almost any car on the road. But I am enjoying this series!! Keep up the good work!
Love this channel!!
It did better than I thought! In your other video, I guessed right around 50 MPG, you did better than that. Thanks for showing MPG.
Actually, if Top Gear rings a bell, they did a mpg test between a Prius and a BMW. The Prius went down to 19 mpg. The trick was of course that they performed the test at 90mph, which is the top speed for a Prius and like 4th gear for the BMW. If you rev a small engine to max it's less fuel efficient than a large engine pretty much idling. It's simple physics really and not a fair comparison. I would venture to guess that this was also a full throttle test and you could probably get a lot better mileage by going only 35.
@@uweschroeder 1g insight gets 45-50 MPG at 90 MPH. Closer to 60 if it's UK MPG.
@@islandfd3s Which to be honest is not that great for a hybrid, but then it's a first generation vehicle - I guess they're better today. A BMW 420d gets 56mpg at over 140mph. I rented one of those on my last visit to family and going 220km/h (about 136mph) it gave me just over 40mpg with the top down (it was a convertible). That I thought was impressive for a conventional car. My car gets about 12mpg with the top down - but then, one of my tires weighs 90 lbs and the aerodynamics are more like a box in a hurricane., so 12 mpg is reasonable for the fun factor.
@@uweschroeder Keep in mind, in that Top Gear challenge, they compared a gasoline (petrol) Prius to a diesel BMW. Diesel has a much higher BTU content per gallon than gasoline, so the diesel will always get better mileage than a gasoline engine of similar displacement in the same car. Had they used a gasoline powered BMW, the Prius would have indeed gotten better mileage. Gasoline engines are actually more efficient under heavy loads, than at light loads, because of pumping losses caused by throttling. Also, this small engine has fixed ignition timing. If the timing advanced based on RPM and load, it would do even better. It would do better yet, if it had an O2 sensor, to control fuel/air mixture. For a $100.00 engine out of the box, it did extremely well!!
@@vincentrobinette1507 I know the top gear "challenge" was designed to make a negative point about the Prius. If you saw the episodes about the Prius they were, while utterly hilarious, not very factual. I would bet they did that challenge several times with different vehicles until they found a constellation that yielded the intended result.
I really like the "this old tony" influence in your videos ! This is awesome !
very good indeed - excellent series - enjoyed every one
Fantastic job
Amazing work!
I followed your build of the Mazda Miata with the Geo metro engine in it. I have a Reliant Rialto that I put a geometro motor in. I couldn't have done it without all of your work and documentation
Three cylinder engine for a three wheeled car, awesome!
Some Kei car based vehicles sold in europe like Daewoo Tico (inline 3 0,8L engine) is capable to run 50ish MPG and 88 mph top speed.
I watch all your adds to support this fun
Great video series! We know that carburetors are bad for fuel economy especially if they are not adjusted just right. 56MPG is great but you should see if there is an EFI kit for it or even better find a used small tractor FS730V-EFI engine or something similar that is about 25 horse power with EFI and you should have better hill performance and fuel economy.
i see this channel growing big time~!
Couldn’t agree more caddy is the gold standard:) love my ATS. Awesome videos!
This is awesome,I love this stuff
I can tell your lawnmower man same thing here in San Antonio Texas did similar work on other things boat aircraft you name it translated riding lawn mowers 9 horsepower blah blah blah I don't have a nice to shop as you do though keep up the good work thanks for the mile per gallons checkout have a nice day I don't touch anybody it's a try to shake hands just start coughing they back away that's what I do
I was pissing my pants at the rock paper scissors lol
Thanks for sharing sir 😀
Excellent😃
How dont you have more subs bud? Just subscribed, looking forward to more videos
At 9.5 HP you could put a Japanese 125cc engine instead.
It produce around 9.2 HP without modification, it'll be lighter and more fuel efficient plus a lot more reliable
good video series thanks
Awesome Videos!!!
With today's technology you can probably use the current engine to charge a battery and run hybrid that car(different/better than the original hybrid).
Best regards
This commentary has me subscribing right now.
You know that 1st gen Insight is actually quite a rarity. You might consider putting it back together after the project is done. They have a small following and since only about 17k of them were made they're hard to get.
Hey a fellow Michigander!
Always amazes me what passes as street legal in the US. I have a Jeep and of course did a little something to it. Perfectly illegal in all of Europe, over here it's not even scratching the surface.
Well, no surprise the little engine/light car combination is more fuel efficient. American cars are not exactly particularly fuel efficient and there's no need for that since gas is so cheap. I make around 14 mpg - not bad for wheels that weigh 90lbs each, but I also geared the crap out of it. I don't know what my top speed is for that "little" 3.6l V6 engine, but I bet it's no more than 80 downhill with pushing. I rarely exceed 65, usually more like 45 or 50 - open vehicles are just no fun at higher speeds.
"Cheap gas" good bless America!
The hillbilly racetrac 🤣 lol this seems like an awesome place to live
Love the videos! I want to see what the 420cc will do and the parts you can put on them.
A 2014 toyota camry xle hybrid will get 50mpg at like 45mph. You also get the cool "haahhh " breath sound from the electric motor.
I don't know how but I knew you were in Michigan.
Awesome!
0:45 I love how much "safer" these stupid safety gas caps are
because that isnt one,, it has no valve
The newer ones are much better. The first ones were straight garbage.
He is using it wrong.
Hehe. Love the bluegrass music in the backyard.
I can tell you're from Michigan if you think Cadillac is the gold standard in Automobiles.. 😂.. great videos though. Excellent job. By watching these videos I feel my life is closer to completion
I used to get 52 MPG average in my old Prius even with crappy California gas, and 55 MPG with old Geo Metro without traffic at constant 50 MPH. SparkEV gets 7.2 miles/kWh at constant 24 MPH which is equivalent to 243 MPGe.
My 1998 Fiat 600 got 64mpg all year average like a granny (max 50 on the hw) 1.1L engine. The EV version of it from 2002 I'm driving now is getting 8 mi/kWh stop and go with no traffic in the city, max 30, when I can accelerate as slowly as I please. I suspect his beltdrive is a tradeoff to get reasonable acceleration. He should try with heavier weights on the pulley and a smaller reduction to get a higher geared top end. He should get around 100 mpg with such a setup.
That must be one rare Cadillac to be a manual transmission damn I want that
Love the first clip
I love the '90 infomercial vibes
I hope you did the winter gas test. I'm generally curious about its differences.
Better than my one-liter ford focus, although I have automagic..
Another video I watch on RUclips - how to get over 2500 miles to the gallon super mileage club. They change the length of the piston to burn less fuel and increase compression. They’re really into it.
They do the Shell eco-marathon mile.
honestly way better mpg than I imagined.
Great programme, nice sense of humour!
English spelling🇬🇧
I didn't know anyone bought that base engine CTS, even more so with a manual. When I bought my CTS the dealership didn't even have any base models, they all had the 255 HP version, which still seemed a bit underpowered to me. The 08 CTS bumped that to 305 HP I think, that was a nice boost.
Indeed, the base 2.8 with the 6 speed manual is a rare bird. A stick shift in a caddy just blows peoples minds.
Considering how actually bare this engine is-
compared to a regular car, many HP robbing
accessories are missing; many modern cars
now have electric accessories, so nothing is
parasitic, but you still need a beefy alternator
to run all that.
Fuel pump, water pump, cooling fan, wiper/
washer, power steering pump, AC compressor,
HVAC blower, lights, entertainment, navigation,
ABS, instrument cluster.
An actual electric starter.
While that is mostly true, the electrical load on a modern car only absorbs about 4HP. The AC will adsorb another 4-5 HP
Maybe you should try and add a turbo and intercooler ( if you haven't done so already) and see how it improves or reduces the fuel economy! I'm sure there must be off the shelf solutions for that?
thanks for all the metric measurements :D:D
thumbs up jimbo👍👍
Imagine how fast it would be if it was in an.m actual 150lb frame go kart? Thing would be ZOOMING
I love you humor
From Leo: Fun test. Air cooled, carbureted engines are not as fuel efficient as modern car engines. Pretty impressive for a lawn mower engine. When I was a kid there was a magazine article about a guy going cross country on an 8 horsepower Cushman scooter. I guess if you are not in a hurry, anything is possible,
Turbos for small engines like that are commercially available; you should try one of them. Harbor Freight has small diesels which would be interesting too, especially w/ a turbo
That’s the same as a new geo metro!
Street legal is defined as a vehicle that can go 25 mph or more under its own power.