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Doug, you make the best videos about pool tables. I really appreciate the time and thought that you put in to making these. I keep learning more and more. Great resource!
Just went to your website and read you are "retired". Congratulations sir! A few of your videos helped me set up my table, which is Gold Crown clone, made by company called Olio. Not sure if you ever came across one before. Nonetheless, your videos were very helpful in leveling slate, gluing felt, etc. Best wishes to you in retirement. Well deserved!!
I really learn a lot watching your video’s Doug. It’s a fascinating subject, and I am great full that you have taken the time to share your knowledge. Thanks Doug!
The more I learn from you - the happier I am becoming about the 8' Peter Vitalie I just got for helping a friend get his new pool hall open ( I would have done it for nothing anyway ). I now plan to call you in a few days anyway !
I enjoy all your videos. I sense you tell it like it is, give honest opinions and really want to educate the average Joe about pool tables. How about a video on how to go about finding a good used commercial pool table. Thanks!😊😊😊😊😊
thank you so much for the education, sincerely appreciated... I've been looking at an Olhausen because my brother has one and it seems like a very nice table. I'd appreciate your opinion...
Thanks for the videos. We are looking to buy a new table. Can you recommend some more brands that are reputable and you would buy if you were buying a new table. Thanks again.
What about billiard table with a little flood damage at footing ? Or 1/4 crack at the footing? This table is at a billiards business pool hall / store.
I currently have a nice 9 ft pool table which is very nice..I had an 8 ft pool table before and I think people enjoyed the 8 footer more than the 9 footer...maybe cause 9 ft is harder to play since is longer and pockets are narrower? Thinking about selling 9 to get an 8ft table. We don't play professionally just for fun in my garage man cave...debating between selling my 9 footer to get an8 footer..what kind a felt and bumpers should I get ether for 8 footer or even if I decide to keep 9 footer? I have enough room to play on 9 footer, well I have a pub round table on corner of garage with 2 barstools and people have to move when shooting from that corner. Also I have just barely enough room along wall to shoot..however I was thinking about putting a shelve along wall for drinks etc, etc..but tje shelve will definitely get in the way when shooting from that side of wall..so that's why I was thinking about 8 footer to just have a little more space Maybe get a nice Dimond pro with good bumpers and blue felt, or upgrade my current 9 footer with good bumpers and blue felt too:)
I've waited all my life for my own pool table and that dream will finally come true when construction is completed on my retirement home in March. I'll have a huge second story loft that will be my personal pool hall complete with a 9 foot table. I kicked around the idea of a used table but decided nah, I want a brand new virgin table. Couldn't care less about depreciation. Means nothing to me because the table will never be sold while I'm still alive.
They're not a bad table. The ones I've worked on seemed to be solid construction. Just make sure you aren't buying something made out of particle board and that you're getting a decent deal below what the table sold for new. Just an FYI, American Heritage went out of business a couple of months ago. So, if there are any broken or missing parts for the table, you may have a hard time finding replacements. Not a deal-breaker though (assuming you get the table for the right price).
Hey Doug, I have an old brunswick pool table I am looking to part with. I have no idea what to charge. It is a 7ft claw feet and 3 piece slate table. Was told whem I got it with the house it was very expensive but looking at parting ways with it that makes sense and don't want to screw anyone over.
I'm looking at facebook market place in NewOrleans for a Brunswick Bookstone @ 8ft table for $2,500. 2nd hand and in ok condition. Should I low ball the price/ Does not come with extras? I can barely find the model.
@@CreativeRestorations haha I’ll stay away for sure then.I appreciate the response any particular brands that you recommend I look into as far as used tables? I also saw a used proline for the same price but know nothing about those
I have a very heavy 80s pool table in my basement that isn't in the best shape. I just want it gone. If I ask somebody to pay professional moving costs, do you think it'll go quickly?
Depends on condition. If it's in bad condition, it may be more trouble for a potential taker than what it's worth. If I were you, I'd check with the local pool table companies and see if they want it for free. Some may take it off your hands without charging you anything (again, if it's in good enough shape). Otherwise, it shouldn't cost too much for them to take it and dispose of it for you.
I am an amateur pool player looking for a pool table in the used market that can last at least 10-15 years. I came across a Connelly Scottsdale for about 2900 USD. Seems to be in mint condition. Is this a good buy? How much should this table worth? Thanks in advance.
We’re looking at a used Chicagoan 8’ slate pool table for $600, seller says the felt is new. The pictures make the table look “new”. I can’t find anything about this table on google. Is this a decent quality table? It’d be for the basement rec room for my teenage son and friends- all beginners.
The name sounds a little familiar. But, I really couldn't say. I'll give you the same advice I would give everyone else... Buy KNOWN name brands. They're much easier to compare apples to apples. With off-brand tables or no-name tables, it's a crapshoot.
So I have been in the market for a used pool table, and found an Olhausen 8’ in my area (DFW) and I while reading the post on Facebook Marketplace, it says: Custom made 8ft by 4.5 ft wide with snooker pockets. Must move yourself. The with snooker pockets through me…do you think they made it like that, or is it just bumper end pieces stuck on, like your video about narrowing a tables pockets?
It's hard to know without seeing it. Are the pockets reduced size? I mean, are the leather covered pockets themselves smaller than a standard pool table? If they are, then, you've got a small snooker table. If they're normal size for a pool table, then, it's been converted. If it's a small snooker table, the rails would be slightly longer than a standard pool table. You can call Olhausen and ask them if they've ever made any 8' snooker tables. It's entirely possible that they haven't.
Question I was looking at diamond pro am tables they have aky rocketed in price. I am going to take a look at a connelly ultimate tomorrow. They are saying buffers are good putting new felt and refurbishing the top rails and new pockets. I'll get a better idea on condition when I check it out tomorrow. It's 9 ft 4 piece 2 inch slate. They want 6k delivered. What's your thoughts?
I would find out what they charge for each of their services, add them up, and subtract the total from their asking price. Whatever the amount comes to, it should be roughly half of what that table sold for new. Hope that helps.
Question about rails. I know from 30 year old bar tables rails are a big deal. If you hit the ball with a little force and it bounces off and up the rail, that’s a clear sign the rails are old correct?
If you're referring to the ball "climbing" the rail and flying off the table, then, no. that isn't an indication of old rubber or rails. It could be. But, more than likely, it isn't. When you hit a ball into the rail, there are LOTS of forces being applied at once. If you introduce any English into the ball, now you're adding even more forces. A hard enough hit with even a little top-spin will cause the ball to jump off of the table. Also, if the rubber isn't installed properly or if the glue holding the rubber on fails and the rubber starts to sag, the ball will fly off the table. The rubber is designed to impact the ball (from the ball's perspective) just slightly above center. This is to deflect the ball in a downward motion. However, the tolerances are tight. And, all it takes is to be off by even 1/8" to make a difference. This holds true with all tables.
Love the video. Extremely informative. Any thoughts on an elephant ball pool table? Maybe built in 2007? Per your point 2, I can’t find much info on it.
I haven't heard anything about them. If I were you, I would continue to do research and check out the table itself. See what it's made of and how it's constructed. Sometimes you can run across well built tables that just don't sell well. And, you can pick them up cheap. Conversely, you can also pay WAY too much for overpriced name brands. In this particular case, being VERY observant when inspecting the table and vigilant with your research will tell you if it's a good deal.
They were a Chinese made table (as I don't believe they're still being made and sold under that name). And with anything coming out of China, it's really hit or miss. So, it really depends on which model it is and how much the asking price is. Personally, I would stick with American made.
How good is a Gold Crown III, pretty heavily used in a pool hall, but without functional issues, with moving/installation and new Simonis cloth for $2K?
Gold Crown III is a great table. But, I’d be leery of one coming out of a pool hall though. The under-side of the rails and slate frames are usually completely chewed up from the table being reupholstered so frequently. If the rest of the table is in great condition, I’d suggest you try to get it for closer to $1500, knowing that you’ll eventually have to repair the rails and slate frames.
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Doug, you make the best videos about pool tables. I really appreciate the time and thought that you put in to making these. I keep learning more and more. Great resource!
Just went to your website and read you are "retired". Congratulations sir! A few of your videos helped me set up my table, which is Gold Crown clone, made by company called Olio. Not sure if you ever came across one before. Nonetheless, your videos were very helpful in leveling slate, gluing felt, etc. Best wishes to you in retirement. Well deserved!!
I really learn a lot watching your video’s Doug. It’s a fascinating subject, and I am great full that you have taken the time to share your knowledge. Thanks Doug!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
The more I learn from you - the happier I am becoming about the 8' Peter Vitalie I just got for helping a friend get his new pool hall open ( I would have done it for nothing anyway ). I now plan to call you in a few days anyway !
Everything I’ve read, these are top of the top tier quality
I enjoy all your videos. I sense you tell it like it is, give honest opinions and really want to educate the average Joe about pool tables. How about a video on how to go about finding a good used commercial pool table. Thanks!😊😊😊😊😊
Wow! Perfect timing. Thank you for the info!
Excellent video (watching in 2021) Thank you sharing
Thanks for your common sense and logical approach to this topic.
My pleasure!
American Legend Kirkwood 84” Billiard Table with Rustic Blond Finish, K-Shaped Legs and Royal Blue Cloth this a hood pool table
This was exactly what i was looking for. thanks
thank you so much for the education, sincerely appreciated... I've been looking at an Olhausen because my brother has one and it seems like a very nice table. I'd appreciate your opinion...
Looking at a used Connelly Scottsdale, seems to be quite a table, 1 1/4” slate. Your thoughts on this model? Value?
Love this.
Thanks for the videos. We are looking to buy a new table. Can you recommend some more brands that are reputable and you would buy if you were buying a new table. Thanks again.
How about ,if I make the purchase knowing the cloth and rubber needs replacing, but pay for the extra work next year?😊
Great input! Thanks for the video
Awesome video buddy, appreciate it
Such a great video. Well done
Glad you enjoyed it!
What do you think of the manufacturer “Loria and sons?” I can’t find any thing on them.
Good info
What about billiard table with a little flood damage at footing ? Or 1/4 crack at the footing? This table is at a billiards business pool hall / store.
I currently have a nice 9 ft pool table which is very nice..I had an 8 ft pool table before and I think people enjoyed the 8 footer more than the 9 footer...maybe cause 9 ft is harder to play since is longer and pockets are narrower? Thinking about selling 9 to get an 8ft table. We don't play professionally just for fun in my garage man cave...debating between selling my 9 footer to get an8 footer..what kind a felt and bumpers should I get ether for 8 footer or even if I decide to keep 9 footer? I have enough room to play on 9 footer, well I have a pub round table on corner of garage with 2 barstools and people have to move when shooting from that corner. Also I have just barely enough room along wall to shoot..however I was thinking about putting a shelve along wall for drinks etc, etc..but tje shelve will definitely get in the way when shooting from that side of wall..so that's why I was thinking about 8 footer to just have a little more space
Maybe get a nice Dimond pro with good bumpers and blue felt, or upgrade my current 9 footer with good bumpers and blue felt too:)
Awesome content im going to be patient thank you
I've waited all my life for my own pool table and that dream will finally come true when construction is completed on my retirement home in March. I'll have a huge second story loft that will be my personal pool hall complete with a 9 foot table. I kicked around the idea of a used table but decided nah, I want a brand new virgin table. Couldn't care less about depreciation. Means nothing to me because the table will never be sold while I'm still alive.
Bless you heart
Nice!
Congratulations
@@jeffsingleton88 Thanks. Funny getting a reply on a year old comment. Got a beautiful 9 foot Gold Crown VI table.
@@beercanbrian1880hope you're enjoying your table!
What do you think of American Heritage brand? I am looking to buy one used.
They're not a bad table. The ones I've worked on seemed to be solid construction. Just make sure you aren't buying something made out of particle board and that you're getting a decent deal below what the table sold for new.
Just an FYI, American Heritage went out of business a couple of months ago. So, if there are any broken or missing parts for the table, you may have a hard time finding replacements. Not a deal-breaker though (assuming you get the table for the right price).
How is American Heritage 8 foot table , any recommendations
Thank you for this video, very helpful
Hey Doug, I have an old brunswick pool table I am looking to part with. I have no idea what to charge. It is a 7ft claw feet and 3 piece slate table. Was told whem I got it with the house it was very expensive but looking at parting ways with it that makes sense and don't want to screw anyone over.
You're welcome to send me some photos via email. Just go to the "Contact Us" page on my website:
www.billiardsofneworleans.com
What is the value of a palason pool table ? 8'
I'm looking at facebook market place in NewOrleans for a Brunswick Bookstone @ 8ft table for $2,500. 2nd hand and in ok condition. Should I low ball the price/ Does not come with extras? I can barely find the model.
Is it the one listed in Belle Chasse on FB Marketplace?
I'm looking at a AMF Playmaster and I can not find a lot of information about them. Any good?
I found a Fischer 8' with brand new cushions Simonis Cloth and free delivery for 1895 is that a fair deal?
I personally would stay away from Fischer like the plague (or Covid). There are MUCH better deals out there than that.
@@CreativeRestorations haha I’ll stay away for sure then.I appreciate the response any particular brands that you recommend I look into as far as used tables? I also saw a used proline for the same price but know nothing about those
Is Brunswick 8’×4’. 3 piece 1” slate a good pool table?
I have a very heavy 80s pool table in my basement that isn't in the best shape. I just want it gone. If I ask somebody to pay professional moving costs, do you think it'll go quickly?
Depends on condition. If it's in bad condition, it may be more trouble for a potential taker than what it's worth. If I were you, I'd check with the local pool table companies and see if they want it for free. Some may take it off your hands without charging you anything (again, if it's in good enough shape). Otherwise, it shouldn't cost too much for them to take it and dispose of it for you.
I am an amateur pool player looking for a pool table in the used market that can last at least 10-15 years. I came across a Connelly Scottsdale for about 2900 USD. Seems to be in mint condition. Is this a good buy? How much should this table worth? Thanks in advance.
I’m looking at the same model. How did yours turn out?
@@ozarkliving7263 I eventually went for a different model.
Found a Montebello for around $5k with new cloth. Thoughts?
We’re looking at a used Chicagoan 8’ slate pool table for $600, seller says the felt is new. The pictures make the table look “new”. I can’t find anything about this table on google. Is this a decent quality table? It’d be for the basement rec room for my teenage son and friends- all beginners.
The name sounds a little familiar. But, I really couldn't say.
I'll give you the same advice I would give everyone else... Buy KNOWN name brands. They're much easier to compare apples to apples. With off-brand tables or no-name tables, it's a crapshoot.
What if your pool table has no name on it anywhere? I have a pool table that doesnt have any brand name on it and I wonder if it was custom made.
So I have been in the market for a used pool table, and found an Olhausen 8’ in my area (DFW) and I while reading the post on Facebook Marketplace, it says:
Custom made 8ft by 4.5 ft wide with snooker pockets. Must move yourself.
The with snooker pockets through me…do you think they made it like that, or is it just bumper end pieces stuck on, like your video about narrowing a tables pockets?
It's hard to know without seeing it. Are the pockets reduced size? I mean, are the leather covered pockets themselves smaller than a standard pool table? If they are, then, you've got a small snooker table. If they're normal size for a pool table, then, it's been converted. If it's a small snooker table, the rails would be slightly longer than a standard pool table.
You can call Olhausen and ask them if they've ever made any 8' snooker tables. It's entirely possible that they haven't.
Question I was looking at diamond pro am tables they have aky rocketed in price. I am going to take a look at a connelly ultimate tomorrow. They are saying buffers are good putting new felt and refurbishing the top rails and new pockets. I'll get a better idea on condition when I check it out tomorrow. It's 9 ft 4 piece 2 inch slate. They want 6k delivered. What's your thoughts?
I would find out what they charge for each of their services, add them up, and subtract the total from their asking price. Whatever the amount comes to, it should be roughly half of what that table sold for new.
Hope that helps.
@@CreativeRestorations OK thanks. In your opinion whats the best table for the money in the 3 to 6k range based on your experience?
For that kind of money, I'd be looking for a Gold Crown V.
Question about rails. I know from 30 year old bar tables rails are a big deal. If you hit the ball with a little force and it bounces off and up the rail, that’s a clear sign the rails are old correct?
If you're referring to the ball "climbing" the rail and flying off the table, then, no. that isn't an indication of old rubber or rails. It could be. But, more than likely, it isn't.
When you hit a ball into the rail, there are LOTS of forces being applied at once. If you introduce any English into the ball, now you're adding even more forces. A hard enough hit with even a little top-spin will cause the ball to jump off of the table. Also, if the rubber isn't installed properly or if the glue holding the rubber on fails and the rubber starts to sag, the ball will fly off the table.
The rubber is designed to impact the ball (from the ball's perspective) just slightly above center. This is to deflect the ball in a downward motion. However, the tolerances are tight. And, all it takes is to be off by even 1/8" to make a difference. This holds true with all tables.
@@CreativeRestorations thank you for this detailed reply.
Love the video. Extremely informative. Any thoughts on an elephant ball pool table? Maybe built in 2007? Per your point 2, I can’t find much info on it.
I haven't heard anything about them. If I were you, I would continue to do research and check out the table itself. See what it's made of and how it's constructed. Sometimes you can run across well built tables that just don't sell well. And, you can pick them up cheap. Conversely, you can also pay WAY too much for overpriced name brands. In this particular case, being VERY observant when inspecting the table and vigilant with your research will tell you if it's a good deal.
Is a Cannon pool table a good buy?
They were a Chinese made table (as I don't believe they're still being made and sold under that name). And with anything coming out of China, it's really hit or miss. So, it really depends on which model it is and how much the asking price is. Personally, I would stick with American made.
👽 thx.
How good is a Gold Crown III, pretty heavily used in a pool hall, but without functional issues, with moving/installation and new Simonis cloth for $2K?
Gold Crown III is a great table. But, I’d be leery of one coming out of a pool hall though. The under-side of the rails and slate frames are usually completely chewed up from the table being reupholstered so frequently.
If the rest of the table is in great condition, I’d suggest you try to get it for closer to $1500, knowing that you’ll eventually have to repair the rails and slate frames.
In Canada it’s about 400$ for everything plus the cost of rubber and cloth
Ever heard of corona
not a bad beer. Altho, I've no idea what that has to do with pool tables..