Is TikTok Hurting the Music Industry?
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Hey everybody! Thanks for watching this video on "Is TikTok Hurting the Music Industry?". I've addressed some of these concepts before, but I really wanted to have an entire video, solely dedicated to TikTok vs. Music. There's so much to talk about and I'm curious to see what you think. Is it okay that musicians are making music so that it sounds "like a TikTok song"? Are the smaller musicians going viral on the app going to be able to sustain their careers in music? Let me know.
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completely get what everyone's saying about Jack Stauber. I wanted to include that song in the video but I just felt like he didn't belong in the BENEE/Doja/Megan/Weeknd/Drake/Bieber section. he's definitely more established than the musicians I lumped him in with, but I still think the ghost pictures/Oh Khlahoma trend is an odd thing within his career. and thanks for the love on the merch 💖 much appreciated
Labels are archaic, formulaic with the outcome🥴
I don't think BENEE belongs there
@@simba94 depends on what label it is. Labels like WARP and XL just kinda let people do what they want whilst helping with promotion and distribution. Are a lot of labels bad? Ye. Are they all bad? No.
You're telling me drake and the weeknd aren't established artists lmao??
And bieber and megan too...
Saint Jhn and K camp are established artists whose had hits before tik Tok
I feel bad for artists who genuinely want to make music that lasts... but only have one trendy song on tik tok
why would you feel bad for them? having that kind of exposure is rare and can set them up for success. look at peeps like Don Toliver. So many artists make great music that no one listens to, that's far more heartbreaking than having a song pop off
@@salb5610 yeah but i think the reason don toliver is still very relevant wasnt just tiktok it was also his collaborations and his friendship with travis scott
i just think hes a bit of a different case than some widely unknown artist that wants to set up and maintain a consistent career that all of a sudden has a song of theirs become a tiktok hit
@@salb5610 i mean, i haven't heard anyone say the name Jack Stauber or K Camp before, hell i didn't even know who Jack was until this video. The fame is a short flame that you either waste your time protecting or let die out and wait for a more sustainable source.
(brockhampton, Tyler, frank ocean)
Clairo punchin the air right now
Roxanne was the first ever big viral TikTok hit, but theres a reason you never hear it anymore...
old town road actually somewhat came from tik tok as well but not many people know since it was in 2018- early 2019
@@ItsSmogan old town road was already fairly popular before tik tok because of memes though
It's a catchy ass song, but I'm not even slightly surprised Arizona Zervas hasn't returned to the charts at all since it dropped out.
LOL I legit was thinking you meant Roxanne by The Police... Looked up Roxanne tiktok and was thrown for a loop
@@ItsSmogan wait but like didn't old town road come out like before it was named tiktok I swear it was originally called musically right and then they decide to change it
Turning a tiktok trend into a sustainable career seems like trying to harness lightning to power your house
@gid Yeah, building a dedicated fanbase doesn't happen that fast
@gid Very true
Nah...
The best thing to do w tik tok as a career is invest like half ur money in business, stocks, real estate so u have something to fall back on
I mean Old Town Road got very big on TikTok with that whole yee yee juice trend, Lil Nas gained fans from that and they followed him through his other songs but I feel that TikTok did help Lil Nas X get as big as he is
I feel like Tik Tok is a terrible place to blow up. Nobody takes “Tik Tok” artists very serious
A sad example is the living tombstone,he was in reality a relatively unknown artist and had some bangers on RUclips that became known as RUclips classics like discord,then literally 3 years after the songs came out and his popularity died Tik Tok came over kicking down his door and parody’d and memed his songs into the fucking ground,now he’s pretty much only known as that guy who made the im already tracer meme
He didn’t even get much from it to begin with since 90% of those who memed it don’t even know where it came from and some believe it came from tik tok itself
@@spacetacos7574 oh yeah, I remember him.
Facts
@@spacetacos7574 living tombstone was definitely not unknown they were popular in like 2014-2017 and fell off due to ppl growing up
@@myristicina. I said in reality,he only became known for discord,five nights at freddys and no mercy which lasted like 2 weeks(I know l was a member of each of the fandoms when this came out)
Don’t forget when a song is a fire then gets overplayed and you can’t hear it without thinking of tiktok (The box - Roddy)
Considering I didn't even know it was a thing on Tiktok, I'm fine with still listening to The Box
That doesn't work if you're not on tiktok
no cap
Like we paid like lil baby
Me with the song that they play when they want to tell story 💀
The music industry has already been hurt for a while now. Tiktok is just beating the horse to death for profit.
Wait are these artist have the charity from tiktok???
At this point they sucked they ghost of the music industry up with a vacuum and put it into somebody else’s body to perform an exorcism.
sounds super american
Did you mean beating the dead horse?
@@conmanalbuquerque3116 Not really, because even though the music industry sucks, there's still good artist out there. It's not a dead horse yet, but it's close to it.
back in my days, whenever i heard tiktok, i thought of kesha.😔
"Wake up in the morning feeling like P Diddy"
Yup same
@@gabrieldominic2381 "Hey, what up girl"
That song still smacks
Sameeeee
@thanasis antetokounmpo thanasis antetokounmpo
@Thanasis Akumpo Back in like 2008 when the song Tik Tok by Kesha came out lol early 2010's ish
Toosie slide was so obviously uninspired and lazy it made me sad.
Everybody knew it and it still worked
@@musliboy2430 it only worked because people will listen to anything that drake produces regardless of how lazy it is
yup toosie slide is nothing compared to songs like look alive or one dance
The biggest shame imo was that the instrumental part of it had serious potential, but the writing was sooo fucking lazy.
But it was cache as fuck
My issue with TikTok songs is that they normally have like 20-30 catchy good seconds and no substance throughout the song
This^
Ikrrrr
I think when a song gets way too overplayed and ends up being associated with a trend, it diminishes it’s time value, like when’s the last time y’all blasted “Keke do you love me” or any other drake pop song
thing is, maybe thats true to a fan, and yes there are songs that you listen to for years... but i dont think songs not having lasting value is necessarily a bad thing... not every song you ever listen to will have longevity, and all the songs you stopped listening to will be nostalgic and remind you of the era, so they still serve an important purpose
They really degrade the song once the trend just ends
@@IxiaClover strongly agree, there are people who would listen to a song just for the trend and that everyone is listening to it, and then it get dyed out, and isn't heard anymore.
I miss the Drake from 6 years ago. I hope CLB isn’t as boring and plain as his current music
I only blast the timeless drake songs
Im not active on tiktok and my music taste is mostly experimental and very indie stuff. lately it is happening more and more that when i put a song on while im with friends i hear "Hey thats that ticktock song". This is great because i never really had that music connection with my friends, but its also a little frustrating because their interest probably wont go any further than that.
@Missy Persian pretty sure the only way to make a trash playlist is having music you dont like
People that only listen to songs made famous on a app probably wouldn't be interested to search for music anyway so just don't bother
I don’t have tik tok but my friend does and when she’s watching it every now and then sometimes I’ll hear something I’ve never heard before pop up and I’ll ask her what it’s called and add it to my playlists. So tik tok is great for exposing people to new and different music but I can see how frustrating that must be with your friends in your case. It’s a strange situation
@@popeyespizza330 The video up there literally talked about what you're talking about, too;
@@nosajsamaniego4512 Yep :)
I always thought Jack Stauber blew up because of RUclips more than TikTok lol
true, buttercup was very big before tik tok
He did get his startup on RUclips afterall
yeah i found him from his animations on yt
True. I’ve been following him for some time now.
His songs are on tiktok? Oh
Jack stauber is definitely not a “tik tok one hit wonder”
Mega facts m8
i mean hes definitely not a one hit wonder, oh klahoma isnt even is first tiktok hit (buttercup was big in like 2018, plus several micropops are big on the cosplay side of tiktok) and hes been big on the internet for years
I love all his music
Yeah he was already an indie star
And K camp already been a XXL freshman 😅✌🏻
“Blinding Lights” didnt get any bigger or reach out to any new listeners because of TikTok...the song is everywhere. You cant even turn on a TV without hearing it, its even all over commercials and broadcasts too.
and now its going to the superbowl.
huh what yup🤣
Ngl I listen to it cause i vibe to it while playing GTA😂
No Grammies tho
yeah i agree, i dont think blinding lights is a tiktok song at all, i actually think it was the other way round... it was popular, so naturally was covered on tiktok
Renegade is what made TikTok this 😂 before renegade blew up on TikTok artists didn’t really care about this app
And the artists who made Renegade, K Camp, isn’t new at all. He just hasn’t had a hit since the 2010s
@@amazingjay3957 RIGHT!! I thought the same too
@@haileyjohnson8154 wait fr?
Yeah k camp isn’t new
@Tyrese K I know I've been listening to k camp even before he made 'lottery' 🙄
What's hurting the music industry is the corporate influence. Every song sounds the same because they want to top charts; even though you can't tell me pay to play is not still strong in the industry.
To be fair, SAINt JHN has written songs for Rihanna and Beyoncé, so I don’t think his solo career will be one hit
dude has millions of streams, feature with gunna, that dude was never a one hit, surprised he even made the list
Also "God Bless The Internet" blew up outside of tik tok and doesn't have any features
He had Monica Lewinsky too before tiktok and like you said is a writer behind the scenes he’ll be fine
@@laleloli exactly, and now he just dropped an album lmao
Ghetto Lenny Love Songs was a banger album and I knew about him before tik tok and he is amazing
tbh I was expecting a video on the fact that Tiktok has now gained the dangerous power to control the charts and what they could do with it, I think it would've been more interesting to develop on that point.
same! good vid anyways
yeah same
YES ^^
What is actually hurting the music industry are fandoms mass buying multiple versions of the same song so it can reach #1.
haha right it's so annoying, and then they think they are number one but really not many people outside their fandom care about the artist/song.
Also, really annoying how these artists / labels put out four "different" versions of the same album, the only difference is the coloring of the packaging so that the fans will buy all four versions to collect. This increases the chances of the album going number one...really pathetic cause like who cares if you debut at number 5 or 10 instead of 1. Either way it's the same amount of fans that buy the album.
@@mpofc i don't know, i like it when kpop groups make their physical albums worth buying. it's like a fun collectible. and i think it's less about charts and more about having a fandom willing to throw money at the company. the charts not reflecting real popularity is an issue i guess but i don't think it's that serious
@@fisticuffs12 yeah sure I don't mind kpop groups making their physical albums worth buying, I like it when they put effort into the albums. But when you do that and then on top of that put out the same album in four different colors or whatever just so that the fans will buy 4 of each then it's just a waste. This is not only kpop, Taylor Swift did it on her latest album (maybe on the ones before, I don't really remember). It would just be better to release a remix or acoustic album so that the content is different.
@@mpofc that i can agree with. it's definitely a bit much. but it's just good business to have multiple versions for those who like to collect. i just don't see it as pathetic, is what i'm saying. (and i just said kpop since those are the ones i have personal experience with :) )
fisticuffs12 I understand your point but what I was referring to is that some artists/labels release multiple versions of the same song on ITunes so that fandoms buy it and their song could reach #1, but that is not a legit #1 because no one listens to that song outside that specific fandom. And I think that shouldn’t be allowed.
Tbh, I noticed more pop fans like Drake than hip hop fans.
I thought you were dead
LMAO
bc his most popular songs aren’t really considered rap songs to the general hip hop audience
Who saw the thing on Twitter that said brockhampton was better than wutang becuase Hampton is played more in tiktok.
I saw it😭😭 it was so embarrassing i don't know how people can think like that
They should know Wu-Tang ain’t nothing to f**k with.
I may not be a big Wu Tang fan, but just reading that sentence made my head hurt. Thats like saying Shape of my Heart is better than any Beatle song because JUICE WRLD sampled Sting.
that's based actually
i love brockhampton but whoever thinks that is insane
Two things:
1. Tik Tok is hurting the music industry, especially for new artists. A GREAT example is the artist Líue (Suffer with me) and how everyone was using his song without giving him any credit, leaving him with little recognition/royalties, though he made one of the most popular songs used on the app.
2. K Camp isn't a new artist and was already successful, that was just a new song lmao
As soon as your song is copyrighted, you instantly will receive royalties for it. The legal groups responsible will yeet that money belonging to you from tik tok or any app faster than you can even put a comment on youtube. You think you can use a song on tik tok without copyright?
I’m fine with the hype of Blinding Lights, but In Your Eyes is vastly superior imo.
I mean.. a lot of songs are better than blinding lights on the album.
I remember, I listened to blinding lights when it just came out, I made my friends listen to it and they didn't really like it, now all of them love it, nobody in my friends group has tik tok, idk what happened to them all of a sudden
Yeah, the album had a lot of good, catchy songs but In Your Eyes is the one I still listen to the most by far
All songs are title track material but I agree! In Your Eyes just hits different
Omg yes
As an artist myself I have thought about this MANY times. Personally I don’t use TikTok I don’t get much enjoyment out of it but I was with my family around early September this year and I had released one of my songs recently. Then they started saying “oh you should make TikToks to get your name out there” and while yes it can be a place to help artists grow a following it can also put artists in a box. If you aren’t constantly making the type of songs that you blew off of people will start to move away from your music, and if you keep making the same songs every time it will come off as a rip off or gimmick. There’s some good that can come off of TikTok but there’s a lot of unspoken damage it causes that should also be addressed. Those are my thoughts, excellent video.
I wish you good luck with your music career!
@@craftsncreations1398 thank you !!
I get told that every time but honestly I might have to go on the youtube way :)
Good luck on your music career fr
@@Naiibeezy thank you very much 🖤🖤🖤
I refuse to download tiktok I’m already addicted to other social media apps lol
i downloaded it and it was not worth it, some tiktoks had really annoying clouty content and generally a lot of the tiktok songs were forced and generic(there are exceptions, obviously)
I was addicted to it for a few months wasnt hard to stop and never go back since it's mostly mindless crap.
Same.
only reason I downloaded tiktok was because of anime and comic books, there was barely any comic book content and a lot of the anime content has horrible taste in shows, characters and etc, most of the times when I see "ranking characters from *a show*" it's usually just the hot ones coming out at top 3.
It's very trash, Instagram, facebook and etc are far better, tiktok is overused and overrated.
even i've heard of tiktok i ain't download it bcoz i'm not interested in that and also cringe,causes some stuff and also ruined other music than just that
Its a fear to be called a "Tik Tok" Artist.
its an insult lol if i was an artist & people call me that i would be sad
@@cloudbyx9970 yep
Ik😭
The music industry is too concerned with making money and not worried enough about making good music.
What's "good music" if it can't garner the attention of people? Any human endeavor that can attract the attention and retention of humans is a profitable one, same w music. the music that gets the most attention might not be "good" to you (which is completely subjective btw), but if it attracts people's attention then... its profitable. those are just the rules of the game.
Exactly! It's all about trends and popularity, which explains why music nowadays don't last long and it's sad.
Another downside is that labels are gonna be expecting you to have a viral hit or social media backing before they even look at you
good point
If your music blows up on the internet cuz of memes or stuff like tiktok. It’s sink or swim. If you blow up way too fast in general, getting and keeping an organic fan base is pretty hard.
Assuming your music is good enough, than you can probably maintain some relevance. but unfortunately music on the internet is SOOOO saturated that some artists just aren’t good enough to keep people coming to their stuff.
Exactly that’s what happened to lil nas
Rockfeller street
When you say no one will give the respect to these artists, I agree with that 100%. I’ve already heard people say “oh I know that song it’s a tiktok song” they actually don’t know or respect who wrote and sang the song
i was listening to melanie martinez one time and my cousin went "oh hey i know that song it's from tiktok" my heart shattered
@@Kiwiumii let me guess - was it playdate? lmao
@@vintagetee3735 yes HAHAHA :,)
@@Kiwiumii i personally think its fine when people know songs from tiktok?? i mean, if its popular there, its pretty much unavoidable. i dont think its sad or ignorant - but i do wish people would stop looking down on songs and artists that are big on tiktok! just because its popular doesnt mean its bad! get off your high horse urghrgh (this is meant to be in support of you and your point, just clarifying :))
my friend literally did a playlist with songs that are trendy from tiktok lol it hurts
SAINt JHN and K Camp are really bad examples of this - same for Jack Stauber according to the comments. SAINt JHN has established a pretty good fandom and K Camp is anything but new to the hip hop scene at this point, p certain he has had multiple hits before.
Yeah but there's no doubt their numbers have gone up by a lot since tiktok came around
yh Roses wasnt a bad remix
SAINt JHN has also written songs for beyonce and rihanna
Right, K Camp was on the radio constantly around 2013 and 2014
Agree
Music has become so disposable, music doesn't have meaning anymore. I wasn't alive for it but I've talked extensively with my dad about it. Music used to mean something, you had to wait until you got a vinyl or a CD to listen to it, having less meant more. Even with iTunes if you were a kid you couldn't buy everything you wanted. Now, people add stuff to their playlist and forget it. I do not use streaming services btw
short answer: yes
long answer: it's very similar to the ringtone rap era from the mid-late 00s (ex. hurricane chris, j-kwon, mims, jibbs), giving us nothing but trashy one hit wonders that i will guarantee will fade into obscurity 5 years from now. just look at all the artists who blew up because of tik tok. lil tecca recently flopped with his debut album virgo world, arizona zervas hasn't had a top ten song since roxanne and it's almost been a year since it blew up because of tik tok, bbno$ might have that memelord fanbase but he hasn't had a billboard entry since lalala and it's also been a year since it blew up on tik tok, i don't see saint jhn have a top ten song like roses did and while jack harlow has a hardcore fanbase, he hasn't had another successful billboard entry like what's poppin.
lot less saturated back then tho, we still remember a bay bay by hurricane chris and stuff from the early 2000s... these days there's a new one hit wonder popping up everyday, so in 10 years we won't remember these people even existed
Tecca and Jack Harlow blew up from Lyrical Lemonade not TikTok
@gid frrr
@gid yeah neither of those blew up off tiktok... he's talking about the obscure 1 hit wonders that have a big song on tiktok but no one knows who there are or never have a successful song again
@@htsunmiku most of these tiktok "hit" artists never end up having any type of career past that 1 song.. i literally seen a rapper that has a viral tiktok song right now, and he only has like 6k followers on instagram... another thing is , some of these viral songs aren't even good, they only went viral because of a 5-10 second clip of the song that is easy to make tiktoks to
As you said, BENEE definitely deserves what she got from that song, she just doesn't miss.
Tiktok is the reason we have Toosie Slide so yes if it keeps going we will get more forced dancing songs like Drake did and it will forced so it will ruin the music industry over time if this keeps going
It helps artist and tiktokers but it will slowly make music feel like label forced dances
Yeah like drake should focus on the fucking album, it's been a while since we got a good album from drake, scorpion was too long, 24 tracks with 3 hits, views was mediocre, and his new mixtape I haven't even listend to
Strongly agree
reason why abortion is a thing
Forced dance songs have been a thing since the dawn of pop music. Teach Me How to Dougie, The Macarena, The Locomotion, Do The Hustle, Land of 1000 Dances, The Twist. People just like to dance, so this has always been a good recipe for a disposable hit song.
K Camp was actually relevant in 2014-15
key word: was
@Missy Persian I remember Cut Her Off all the way from 2014
For real I was listening to camp back in 2015. He been blowing up this guy doesnt know what hes talkin about
Yea, he was👌🏾
@@adrianolenaz4893 but he grouped him with artists that weren’t popular or mainstream at all until tik tok. The distinction is important
“I’m D list RUclips personality Harrison Renshaw”
nah man.
You’re A-List to us.
tiktok is ruining everything
Specifically the tiktok dancers
It’s the TikTok dancers who ruin certain songs.
@Missy Persian Not trying to defend the app. I despise it, I was just trying to say that it’s mostly the dancers who tend to ruin the songs. I will state it again: I hate TikTok, I am not defending it.
facts
not really. just straight tiktok, they overuse songs.
Getting popular on tiktok is like having your career speedran without your permission. Your first few songs after tiktok will be big, but after that you're not gonna be remembered.
whats funny is k camp lottery only blew up cuz of the producers tag lol
Yes
Exact same thing happened for khroam
The artist behind "oh klahoma" is Jack Stauber. I don't think you have to worry about his succes after his ticktock trend, he is one of the most creative artists out there right now and has more than just music going on for himself. He has a youtube channel which you should check out if you're in the mood for some ultra weirdness.
My favorite part of TikTok is the small artists I've discovered on TikTok. It seems as though it's a good avenue for marketing small bands if your algorithm puts you there.
I never thought Tossie slide was a bad song personally, but I immediately knew it was a lazy capitalization of dancing to songs on Tik tok
Jack stauber is a great artist, and me listening to him was caused by his song coffee blowing up on tiktok. Still agree with your points, but it can still push indie-ish musicians
I have had Oh Klahoma stuck in my head for a week and had no way to find out what on earth it was. THANK YOU for saving me
Bruh Fleetwood Mac is literally everywhere rn and I had no idea why (I wasn’t mad at it) and I just found out it’s cuz Tik-Tok. Like I said ain’t mad at it but it just kinda sucks that that’s what there gunna be known for from the kidz
Same here man, I already know that the song was pretty big back then but since it was old it felt pretty special listening to it on a rainy afternoon. And now that everyone knows it, and through tiktok? It kinda sucks
Dreams is probably one of my top 3 favorite songs ever. I don’t have TikTok, so the song hopefully won’t be tainted for me.
Why it sucks that kids found about great songs because of tik toks? Dont be such a drama queen
That's what's annoying to me too. These kids only know these classic songs as tiktok songs. I saw Money Trees by Kendrick Lamar trending on apple music a few months ago and was wondering why. Sure as hell, it was because of tiktok
iMa dO tHE rENagade tO sOMe flEEtWood MaC
Ive been a fan of Jack Stauber for years and i know others who have as well. Wouldnt call him a one hit wonder
exactly!! also same although i wonder if hes back on adult swim :C
like hes had 3 hits on tik tok alone lmao (all a few months or years after the songs were already at least somehwat big)
ITS BENNY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORm
He’s definitely not
From first glance, it seems great that TikTok gives opportunities for rather unknown artists to gain a platform. However, the issue is, these artists make one song for TikTok and are never heard from again. It’s not giving the artists a ‘genuine’ platform, just some short time in the spotlight.
Damn that sucks that people actually discovered Jack Stauber through Tik Tok he don’t deserve that ...
What so bad about it?
Skygamer gatekeeping
@@nalimlattarai2873 how the hell am i gatekeeping?
nalim lattarai he aint gatekeeping he just stupid
Skygamer cuz tiktok is ass
doja most definitely is the queen of tiktok. because she doesn’t make songs to go viral, she makes genuine art. but look how many songs of hers have went viral. say so, kiss me more, woman, rules, streets, get into it, ain’t shit, like that, rules, best friend, etc. she truly kills the game
As an aspiring musician, it would be an absolute nightmare for one of my songs to be way too hyped by trends. One, because trends only last for a short time, meaning that your song will be good for a while but before you know it, it'll die. And two, the meaning gets lost in all of these small dance snippets and skits. You won't be looking into the message, you'll only see it as a danceable song that got popular off tiktok. If you get what I'm trying to say
When you make a song about the struggles in your life and how you overcome it and then some people take 30 seconds of your music just to dance to it
And now TikTok is using Eminem's most forgettable songs after that they tried to cancel him. Fucking awesome, right?
It reminds me of the kids who bullied the goth/emo kids and years later ask them for fashion advice.
Tik Tok ruins good artists and songs by turning them into a joke. Imagine if Tik Tok'ers ever discover The Beatles, over 150 masterpieces to ruin 😟
It makes some really good sons become hits which is good (roses imanbek remix being an example) but sometimes they make trash songs popular or the song just becomes cringe.
Even if good songs become “hits” they’re really just fads, and when the next one come also the last one if forgotten. It’s just rinse wash repeat. It’s not good for artists if they want to be taken seriously and if they want longevity.
Reminds me of You was at the Club tiktok trend
All the banger songs that we used to listen are just ruined by Tiktok.
Tbh. The thing I have a problem with most is the thing when someone uses a song that isn't saved in the catalogue. It gets marked as "Original Song" so the credit to the real artist gets completely lost. So the one who gets all the recognition is the person who made that sound popular.
I’m an aspiring musician and this thread me so much
First idk if my music appeals on TikTok so…Second I don’t want to be a ‘TikTok trend’ but ‘That app’ literally has so much power over music help :(.
All of my friends tell me I should push my music on TikTok but this video and these comments are explaining exactly why I don't want to. I'm glad some people understand I don't feel lonely anymore LMAO
Song: Exists
TikTok: *Hippity, hoppity, this is now my property!*
Saint Jhn and K Camp already have a back catalog that you could check out. I think Saint Jhn Roses is a bad example.
I hope one day Tik Tok is gonna be deleted
Yes
When your music gets popular from TikTok, you will be forever known as "that one tik tok guy".
Hit the nail on the head! 📌 I been saying this for a long time too. I don't think going viral on TikTok is what a young aspiring artist should be aiming for. It can be seriously damaging.
I think Flo milli is an artist that didn’t really have any songs, but somehow managed to get big and actually have multiple hits.
I now understand Dave Grohl's sentiments with Carpool Karaoke. He said he is uncomfortable singing just a portion of their songs because he believes they are meant to be heard as a whole. Same here, unless the song is intentionally made for tiktok. Based on the songs before this generation, songs that you can sing whole or at least remember lasts through generation.
”it’s like they’re trying to make songs for tiktok” oh boy you have a big storm coming
How to check if someone is a tiktoker:
“Ask them to sing the rest of the remaining song”
Tik tok is good for the music industry as long as it isn’t forced. It gives people a platform to blow up and it can revive old songs. The forced stuff like tosie slide is still pretty garbage though.
It revives the song but loses its meaning dont act dumb.
@@kanyenorth8449 it depends on the context of it but all i'm saying is that you might discover some pretty great songs that you wouldn't have seen advertised otherwise since they're old
Yes it is. It's making peoples attention span even shorter. Some people only know a song but a 15 second hook and some dance associated with it.
Good music has been ruined by TikTok, as hearing the same 15 second snippets of the same track over and over again has made enjoying music unbearable.
Pretty much every genre of music from all over the world has been subject to this dancing trend.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yessir
From my own experiences in music, dating back to the 90s boom, you can just remove the word "tiktok" from this video, and everything said will still remain true.
Trends come, trends go. They always start out with the people deciding the trend, then the music industry exploiting it, then the people finding the next one.
It always pushes new talents to the top, then the music industry re-aims its current artists towards that same style, then that style dies down as people find new styles.
These waves go intermittently between each other, with styles switching more rapidly and trends a bit slower.
For a little while, you get diversity on the radio, then everything starts sounding the same, then a bit of diversity, then everything sounds the same.
Now it is TikTok driving it, a few years ago it was RUclips, then Spotify before that. In the late 90s it was radio driving it, in the early 00s it was home-hosted internet radio (which quickly got snapped up by the music industry to be industry-hosted internet radio).
It's just what happens in music.
And with every trend, it takes less and less time before the industry follows popularity and less and less time before people find the next trend. We're almost at the point where we get a new trend monthly now, compared to the 90s boom, where the trends switched about once a year, or the trends from a few decades before that, which took several years to switch.
Jack Stauber is seriously like one of my favorite musicians, he takes like typical sounds of indie and puts a dark twist on them. I’m glad he’s seeing TikTok success, but at the same time I don’t want him to become that pretentious edgy thing that a lot of darker TikTok songs end up being
I absolutely loved his stuff even before buttercup becoming known on tiktok but I'd also kinda be disappointed if that's where he goes tbh
Kinda already became that, way before he blew up on tik tok too. The comments on a lot of his videos are filled with people trying to think of the edgiest possible hidden meaning they can
*looks at title*
the music industry is killing the music industry.
The song: sex, drugs, alcohol and depression
Kids and teens: ah yes ima dance to this
the fact that so many tik tok audios are just songs that are completely or almost completely unaltered and have had their titles changed is frustrating. it doesn’t give credit to the actual song and artist.
My problem with TikTok is when a song gets popular it shows up in every single TikTok. Even if it doesn’t make sense to tl use the song. I can’t stand hearing Supalonely, Roses, and some of the other songs mentioned here because I’ve heard the same sound bite a million times. Obviously it helps the musicians get noticed but it’s so annoying.
Surprised you didn’t mention Olivia Rodrigo. She is probably the single greatest example of tik tok making someone a superstar. She was moderately successful already but when Drivers license went viral on tik tok, she became the most streamed artist of all time (I think). Great video tho!
I like the way he never says anyone's music bad and keeping his point at the same time
"Is TikTok Hurting The Music Industry?"
Short Answer: Yes
Long Answer: Yessss
ive watched a few of your videos by now, but i think this is one of the most appropriately expressed opinions ive heard in awhile. great video. you really hit the nail on the head
well yes, but actually...
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I’ve been subbed to you for years
Theres a differemce for making songs that happen to be famous on tiktok ex:"say so","savage" and then there's the songs that were purposly made for tiktok "savage love"
We need to create a petition to sue all major tiktok ‘artists’.
I'm noticing it too that some music artists use their songs catering to tiktok bc of a specific tune that is meant to be a tiktok sound.
I will never forgive TikTok for what they did for Black Dresses. I know that in that incident, it was just a couple of entitled kids to blame, but might reflect a bigger problem about the loss of a song's value that TikTok creates..
I dunno, it might be a generational thing, but I find it weird that some people can make a TikTok with an innocent song like Say So, followed by a TikTok with a Black Dresses song about the sexual abuse of children, and have them basically be the same video.
So that must be how Black Dresses sort of blew up and then immediately broke up. I guess Tik Tok has a lot of transphobes.
Yeah, that sucks :/
It’s sad to see what the music industry is turning into because of tik tok it’s just one hit wonders but heightened to a new level. I’m a music lover and I’m watching actual talent get ignored in the face of songs of a lower quality :(
Powfu was already on of the biggest artists in lofi-rap for a minute, Death Bed is more akin to what happened with Benee than him just blowing up out of nowhere
Tai verdes rise from tik tok is kind of impressive his songs have been getting decent views while doing stuff for movies, and even appearing on forbes, I think he's a perfect example of blowing up from this platform but separating himself as being just a tik tok artist
jack stauber is not one hit wonder or really a tiktok star… he’s been around for ages on youtube with animations using buttercup! and within cosplayers he still has a large presence
I love you're channel and everything and would really love if you did a video about tame impala
I’ve known about Powfu for over 3 years now and even I’m not happy about his song blowing up on TikTok
as someone who is probably much older. I agree with you, but you can't fight it. Things change, whether we like it or not.. But trust me, even for something as stupid as "renegade", when you hear that song in 2040. You'd cry, out of overwhelming nostalgia and emotions.
Excellent video 👍
ayyyyyy
I completely agree with you regarding that the trends put some less unknown artists into a box, because there are songs now I don't want to listen/hear anymore that I originally heard with tiktok and I directly associate with a trend rather than think about the artist themselves
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yes
I am from the Dominican Republic. We have a guy there that seems to have found the "recipe" or current trend for TikTok. He connects song after song and they go viral on TikTok everytime. So much that some of his songs have been used on Superbowl performances, and his dance challenges performed on national TV by big celebrities like Jessica Alba and Ellen. His name is Nfasis. Its crazy how much he has accomplished with his simple songwriting but Im sure he puts a lot of thought into his writing even thou its very simple words.
It’s also interesting to see what the app’s doing for old music.
The most recent trend with the song Dreams by Fleetwood Mac reminded me how much I love the song and I’m so happy that more people young people are hearing it for the first time.
But also, is this what the song should be associated with? Does it matter if a classic song’s meaning is diluted by a meme, or is it just good that it’s getting traction?
I’m not sure
The thing with TikTok is that it’s a double edged sword. It’s good for getting songs popular and getting people listening to it, but there’s a risk of it being over played. When a song gets over played it gets boring and then people just stop listening. It’s good for short term but in the long run it just won’t work.