Ian you forgot just as important if not more; the Cargo Carry Capacity. Towing is one thing but being able to handle the total weight of cargo in the back of the SUV, passengers, gas tank volume and tongue weight are huge issues even for large SUV's
Richard hit the nail on the head. Cargo Carrying Capacity is the #1 factor right from the start. Then GVWR, and lastly towing capacity. Look on the inside drivers side door jam for stated Cargo Carrying Capacity.
@@campingworld Ian as much as you have to remember about individual models I don't see how you keep it all straight. You do a good job but anybody can miss something. That's why we're all here to learn from each other and help where we can. Merry Christmas!
What sucks is that many different sites describe the information differently. We need a new vehicle for our family of 5 and want a camper too. It is very overwhelming to find out what we need. We want something with a 3rd row because our kids like to lean their seats back. They don't really like to be in a pickup for long trips. I'd like to not have to get something like a Suburban, but don't know if I'll have much choice. I don't know why they can't make a minivan that tows 5,000 lbs!! Any suggestions Richard?
@@gregolson7499 Greg, this is a real quandary I'm afraid. I'm afraid the truck is your number one best choice but I raised three boys and fully understand their happiness helps Mom & Dad retain their sanity. Anther which you're already aware of is the Suburban, my choice would be the Toyota Sequoia. Another good possibility would be a used Chevy van. Some of them had great tow limits and great CCC. I'm afraid though in the end the truck is your best bet. The other possibility would be a Class C. There's some with besides the overhead bunk have bunk beds. Those can handle a large crew of family and kids. Please keep me posted on which way your leaning :)
If he’s saying a vehicle that can tow 3,500 lbs can tow any of these trailers it’s a lie! If you got a vehicle that tows 3,500 lbs the most you can tow is a 2,800 lbs trailer that is fully loaded. Most of these are around 3,500 lbs unloaded give or take a couple hundred pounds , once loaded they’re over 4,000 lbs or close to it. Whatever your vehicle tows take off 20% and that’s what you can tow safely. Plus you go by loaded weight not unloaded weight of the trailer. Tow at the limit it’s only a matter of time before your engine and transmission blow up especially going up mountains. Tow with the brains in your head not the ones in your butt. Your life depends on it.
I agree with these models, the mfg websites seem to say the dry weight is like 3000 lbs. But the GVWR is in the 4000. So I think a 3500 lb GVWR like a mazda cx-9 awd won't be able to tow these.
Max Tow is the last number you should consider when matching a trailer to a tow vehicle. Your vehicles payload capacity, the GCVWR, and axel ratings are much more important, especially concerning mid size SUVs and vehicle s not necessarily designed with towing as a primary factor. Trailer hitch weight, passengers and cargo are all deducted from your payload capacity and you will Max this number out long before you max out on towing. So if you have and SUV with a max payload of 1,200 lbs. Minus out 500 lbs of people and a hitch weight of 400 lbs that only leaves you 300 lbs of buffer for gear or weight distribution hitches that can 100 lbs or more, and you are very close to being max out and have a heavy squat on the back end of your SUV. Be safe people, take what the sales man says with a grain of salt. Check your vehicle weight limits yourself and stay within.
Bradley, I agree that there are several factors to consider when towing, much more than just tow capacity. You can see that I go into some of the math and factors to consider in the following video (ruclips.net/video/bmWg6_Wk1rw/видео.html) to help people better understand what to look for when considering towing. Thanks for the comment and stay safe! -Ian Baker
This is so overwhelming for a first time camper purchase. I’m interested in several different model campers but I’m so confused on which one, if any will be possible. There are certain requirements I need in a camper like a bathroom or wet bath, a separate dining and sleeping space, if not then it isn’t even worth it. I don’t want to have to convert a dining table to bed. I want to feel comfortable. I have the 2023, Honda Passport EX-L, V6 engine, AWD. I’m told the towing capacity is 5000 lbs but now I’m finding out that it doesn’t even matter. I was looking at the nuCamp 400, Little Guy Max, Flagstaff E-Pro E19FBS, but mostly liked the inTech sol horizon. If these aren’t even possible then why bother purchasing a camper at all?! 🤷🏻♀️ I certainly don’t want to purchase something that isn’t going to work for me.
@@monicae67 Good morning. I Randomly clicked on notifications and found your post. I'll try and help you out the best I can. I took a look at the Passports specifications. It appears that to be able to tow 5,000 lbs. You need a Accessory tow package that is Honda dealer installed. See specs. PDF, for Passport sub-clause #2. So go to your dealer and talk to the service department to see if this is already done. or can be done. Now, on the driver door panel find the yellow sticker that states you cars payload limit. Hopefully it is above 1000 lbs. Next add up the weight of people and gear that will travel in the car. Subtract that from the over-all payload number and what's left is what's available for the trailer's hitch weight, that will also be subtracted from that payload limit. Most of those trailers you where looking at have a GVWR of 3,500 lbs. and hitch weights of less than 500 lbs. So they should be with in the limits. The tabs would be better towing than the boxy E-pro. Smaller, narrower, lighter. All look at the R-Pods. I hope this helps. Cheers from Canada
Dang right! All RV salesmen just wants to sell RVs and they'll do anything to get rid of them. Never mentioned front wheeled vs 4-wheeled SUV capabilities also.
Question, I am interested in the 2024 DUTCHMEN EDDIE BAUER SIGNATURE 23RB with a dry weight of 5670lbs and I have a 2023 Ram 3.21 v8, 4 wheel drive, payload is 1620, Camping World Tow and Vin lookup using VIN# says max weight is 6400lbs. Is that accurate?
Great question! I'd recommend learning more about RV weight ratings in this article: blog.campingworld.com/find-your-rv/rv-buying-guide-understanding-rv-trailer-weight-ratings/ Many RVers also follow what's known as the 75 or 80% rule, which states that the total weight of your trailer when loaded shouldn't exceed 75-80% of your vehicle's towing capacity. So that would be 4,000 pounds for your 4Runner. If you're interested, here's another collection of lightweight trailers to consider: blog.campingworld.com/find-your-rv/great-lightweight-travel-trailers-under-3000-pounds/ Hope that helps, but let us know if you have any follow up questions! - Tucker Ballister
I have a 2018 Forester and I just want to go from Long Island, NY to Florida with my 2 dogs and my parrot! That Geo pro looks great! But can my Subbie pull it that far & back?
You would have to verify, but I believe the 6 cyl has a tow capacity of 2,500 lbs. So you'd probably be looking at something like the Coleman Rubicon 1400BH (ruclips.net/video/U1J6-uu5l4o/видео.html) -Ian Baker
This video is a bit misleading since towing capacity is one of the LAST things to consider when trying to tow with an SUV. MUCH more important is payload and GCWR, since you may be able to (theoretically) tow 5,000 lbs. with a particular SUV, BUT if your payload is only say 1,500 lbs., you will be at your payload (10-15% of trailer weight as hitch weight, passengers, cargo, etc.) WAY before you reach your towing capacity. I have now had 5 travel trailers, and have made sure that the tow vehicle has MORE than enough payload and GCWR to handle the job. I am always amazed at the number of TT's being towed down the road by vehicles which are nowhere near safe enough to tow them Not safe at all...putting themselves and others on the road around them at risk, simply because their dealer told them that the vehicle could tow a certain amount. Towing capacity is a big game that all manufacturers are playing, and it does not serve the public well because of the fact that you may be overloading your vehicle's axles, trans, and engine without getting anywhere near its towing capacity.
how would a payload of 1,500 lbs be problematic.... say you have tongue weight of 500lbs, that is 1,000 remaining; 4 passengers at say 150lb average, and you have 400 lbs left; what else would you cram in that SUV
@@mondvogel6124 Woohoo, a whopping 400lbs before you're at your max weight. Pull that baby in some breezy conditions & see how fun that is. Or pull it through a few mountains passes & see how long your brakes & trans hold up. There is a TON of GOOD towing info on RUclips. A DEALER doesn't give the best advice on towing. And Camping World is the worst dealer out there in MY experience with them. ✌
Do mind sharing if there is a place I can figure what I can safely tow. I just purchased a 2018 gmc acadia denali and it does come eight the trailer/tow package and we want to be completely in the safe limits to go camping.
Such helpful information!!!! Thank you thank you thank you for adding these informative videos to your lineup. I've been playlisting them for future reference. What doesn't apply to me now may down the road. RVers tend to go through multiple RVs during their lifetime. 😁
Absolutely Kara, my pleasure!! Richard had a good point in the comment section too that I missed when talking about SUV's, and that is the Cargo Carrying Capacity of the SUV. You need to make sure the SUV can handle all the people and gear loaded in it plus the tongue weight of the trailer. I'm glad you're loving the new series and we have plenty more planned for 2021! -Ian Baker
Yours is probably a 3,500 lbs rating so Actually nothing. maybe a teardrop or a scamp or casita. But there around 40k or more. A good built trailer is “Taylor coach “ made in Canada they got lightweight trailers starting at 8’ up to 24’ (8, 10, 12,, 14,16, 18 , 19, 20,22,24) but there’s a 4 year waiting list there made 1 at a time not mass produced 100 times better than a US made one and last a long time. Customer service is excellent. How much it costs to cross the border when you buy it I don’t know.
This is so overwhelming for a first time camper purchase. I’m interested in several different model campers but I’m so confused on which one, if any will be possible. There are certain requirements I need in a camper like a bathroom or wet bath, a separate dining and sleeping space, if not then it isn’t even worth it. I don’t want to have to convert a dining table to bed. I want to feel comfortable. I have the 2023, Honda Passport EX-L, V6 engine, AWD. I’m told the towing capacity is 5000 lbs but now I’m finding out that it doesn’t even matter. I was looking at the nuCamp 400, Little Guy Max, Flagstaff E-Pro E19FBS, but mostly liked the inTech Sol Horizon. If these aren’t even possible then why bother purchasing a camper at all?! 🤷🏻♀️ I certainly don’t want to purchase something that doesn’t work for me.
Hey Monica, Ian Baker here and I’m sorry you’re feeling overwhelmed, but I completely understand! Those are all really nice options and most should be possible for you to tow but will be pushing it. Honestly though, I would STRONGLY recommend the new Coleman Lantern 17R that JUST came out. It’ll be easily towable by your Honda Passport (it’s under 4,500 GVWR) and is a much lower financial commitment than some of the others you have listed here. That way you can firstly make sure you enjoy RVing and hopefully take some of the pressure off from your first time purchase. We just filmed a walkthrough of it and hope to have it up on RUclips in the next week or so. So be sure to subscribe so you can see as soon as we publish it! -Ian Baker
Hi Nick! You can use our towing guide to check your vehicle's towing capacity: rv.campingworld.com/towguide Then compare that to the dry weight of the trailers you're interested in. But remember you'll likely add considerably more weight before you're ready to camp. So here's another article that may be helpful: blog.campingworld.com/rv-basics/finding-your-rv/rv-buying-guide-understanding-rv-trailer-weight-ratings/ Let us know if you have any follow up questions! - Tucker Ballister
I am thinking of getting a 1995-97 Nissan Pathfinder (V6 engine with automatic/over drive and hopefully 4X4 capabilities)... will that vehicle be considered as mid-SUV?
Yes, it would be. It should have around 3,500 tow capacity. Make sure you account for everything you plan on putting in your RV (including water in the fresh water tank) to determine if you can pull it. You'll also need to know the payload capacity of the vehicle as the tongue weight of the trailer, plus passengers and gear can often times be an issue for mid-size SUV's.
Ian Baker here and I completely agree and always recommend safety first. The last thing anyone wants is to burn up a transmission or destroy the suspension of a tow vehicle. Every situation requires the proper calculations as something as simple as traveling with full water tanks can greatly alter the ability to properly tow the trailer when you have a smaller tow vehicle. Thanks for watching and for the tip! -Ian Baker
You kept showing walk around beds up front WITH a bunkhouse. My money says you were showing 2 different models both times you did this, but maybe not. Can you confirm which travel trailers in this vid may have actually had BOTH bunks AND a walkaround double or queen up front?? Thanks
You are correct that they are two different units being shown and I'm sorry for any confusion! However, if that is what you're looking for then make sure the check out the Gulf Stream Enlighten 25BH. It is EXACTLY what you need. Just over 4,000 lbs dry, with double bunks in the back AND a walk around queen with an option for a murphy bed. You can see it in the review below. Thanks for watching and for the comment! ruclips.net/video/kRQBN2vy4vk/видео.html -Ian Baker
@@campingworld Wait....7600lbs gross and I have the identical vehicle in your vid (Sorrento v6 AWD)....that's rated for 5k max. You think THAT'S what I need??🤔🤨
hey bro, i wanna can i use sienna to tow these camper trailers? some ppl said its risky to towing these, do i need to upgrade the brake system and air the rare suspension?
So hard to decide? a $30k RV with a $70k truck or SUV to tow it or maybe a $180k class B. Ok, a downpayment on a beach condo that we can rent much of the year makes sense.
Hey there, Ian Baker here. Let me drop those for you here real quick. Granted these are all UVW, so you'll have to be REALLY careful with the Coleman and R-Pod if your tow vehicle has a 3,500 lb rating. Even though you can technically tow them, you'd have to pack most of your gear in another vehicle. The NoBo, Jay Flight and E-Pro are honestly better options for a 3,500 lb tow capacity vehicle. 1) NoBo 10.6 = 1,760 lbs 2) R-Pod RP153 = 3,159 lbs 3) Jay Flight SLX 154BH = 2,615 lbs 4) Coleman Lantern 17B = 3,050 lbs 5) Flagstaf E-Pro E15TB = 2,670 lbs
@@campingworld this is very helpful thank you so much Ian. I liked the E-Pro 15tb looked it up and found a 14fk would that be a better option? I have a 2020 Rav 4 TRD it states it can tow 3500lbs. Thanx again for you reply 🙏🏼
Great question Thomas! The short answer is that we tried to select some more popular options that had greater availability nationwide so more people could find an RV that works for them. There were a lot of GREAT RV's that would work that we weren't able to include in this list and the Sonic Lites are certainly among those! Let me know if you have anymore questions! -Ian Baker
Interesting video, this should be mandatory for ALL CampingWorld Salesman, maybe then you wouldn’t waste customers time and lose sales upwards of $20k with uneducated and. Misinformed Salesmen! I will never waste another minute at Camping World
Ian you forgot just as important if not more; the Cargo Carry Capacity. Towing is one thing but being able to handle the total weight of cargo in the back of the SUV, passengers, gas tank volume and tongue weight are huge issues even for large SUV's
Richard hit the nail on the head. Cargo Carrying Capacity is the #1 factor right from the start. Then GVWR, and lastly towing capacity. Look on the inside drivers side door jam for stated Cargo Carrying Capacity.
Wow, I don't know how I missed talking about CCC. Thanks for pointing this out Richard!!
-Ian Baker
@@campingworld Ian as much as you have to remember about individual models I don't see how you keep it all straight. You do a good job but anybody can miss something. That's why we're all here to learn from each other and help where we can. Merry Christmas!
What sucks is that many different sites describe the information differently. We need a new vehicle for our family of 5 and want a camper too. It is very overwhelming to find out what we need. We want something with a 3rd row because our kids like to lean their seats back. They don't really like to be in a pickup for long trips. I'd like to not have to get something like a Suburban, but don't know if I'll have much choice. I don't know why they can't make a minivan that tows 5,000 lbs!! Any suggestions Richard?
@@gregolson7499 Greg, this is a real quandary I'm afraid. I'm afraid the truck is your number one best choice but I raised three boys and fully understand their happiness helps Mom & Dad retain their sanity.
Anther which you're already aware of is the Suburban, my choice would be the Toyota Sequoia. Another good possibility would be a used Chevy van. Some of them had great tow limits and great CCC.
I'm afraid though in the end the truck is your best bet.
The other possibility would be a Class C. There's some with besides the overhead bunk have bunk beds. Those can handle a large crew of family and kids. Please keep me posted on which way your leaning :)
If he’s saying a vehicle that can tow 3,500 lbs can tow any of these trailers it’s a lie!
If you got a vehicle that tows 3,500 lbs the most you can tow is a 2,800 lbs trailer that is fully loaded.
Most of these are around 3,500 lbs unloaded give or take a couple hundred pounds , once loaded they’re over 4,000 lbs or close to it.
Whatever your vehicle tows take off 20% and that’s what you can tow safely.
Plus you go by loaded weight not unloaded weight of the trailer.
Tow at the limit it’s only a matter of time before your engine and transmission blow up especially going up mountains.
Tow with the brains in your head not the ones in your butt. Your life depends on it.
He started his demo in the middle of the range, not the upper limit.
I agree with these models, the mfg websites seem to say the dry weight is like 3000 lbs. But the GVWR is in the 4000. So I think a 3500 lb GVWR like a mazda cx-9 awd won't be able to tow these.
Max Tow is the last number you should consider when matching a trailer to a tow vehicle. Your vehicles payload capacity, the GCVWR, and axel ratings are much more important, especially concerning mid size SUVs and vehicle s not necessarily designed with towing as a primary factor. Trailer hitch weight, passengers and cargo are all deducted from your payload capacity and you will Max this number out long before you max out on towing. So if you have and SUV with a max payload of 1,200 lbs. Minus out 500 lbs of people and a hitch weight of 400 lbs that only leaves you 300 lbs of buffer for gear or weight distribution hitches that can 100 lbs or more, and you are very close to being max out and have a heavy squat on the back end of your SUV. Be safe people, take what the sales man says with a grain of salt. Check your vehicle weight limits yourself and stay within.
Bradley, I agree that there are several factors to consider when towing, much more than just tow capacity. You can see that I go into some of the math and factors to consider in the following video (ruclips.net/video/bmWg6_Wk1rw/видео.html) to help people better understand what to look for when considering towing. Thanks for the comment and stay safe!
-Ian Baker
Thank you. Few people actually get that.
This is so overwhelming for a first time camper purchase. I’m interested in several different model campers but I’m so confused on which one, if any will be possible. There are certain requirements I need in a camper like a bathroom or wet bath, a separate dining and sleeping space, if not then it isn’t even worth it. I don’t want to have to convert a dining table to bed. I want to feel comfortable. I have the 2023, Honda Passport EX-L, V6 engine, AWD. I’m told the towing capacity is 5000 lbs but now I’m finding out that it doesn’t even matter. I was looking at the nuCamp 400, Little Guy Max, Flagstaff E-Pro E19FBS, but mostly liked the inTech sol horizon. If these aren’t even possible then why bother purchasing a camper at all?! 🤷🏻♀️ I certainly don’t want to purchase something that isn’t going to work for me.
@@monicae67 Good morning. I Randomly clicked on notifications and found your post. I'll try and help you out the best I can.
I took a look at the Passports specifications. It appears that to be able to tow 5,000 lbs. You need a Accessory tow package that is Honda dealer installed. See specs. PDF, for Passport sub-clause #2. So go to your dealer and talk to the service department to see if this is already done. or can be done.
Now, on the driver door panel find the yellow sticker that states you cars payload limit. Hopefully it is above 1000 lbs. Next add up the weight of people and gear that will travel in the car. Subtract that from the over-all payload number and what's left is what's available for the trailer's hitch weight, that will also be subtracted from that payload limit.
Most of those trailers you where looking at have a GVWR of 3,500 lbs. and hitch weights of less than 500 lbs. So they should be with in the limits. The tabs would be better towing than the boxy E-pro. Smaller, narrower, lighter. All look at the
R-Pods.
I hope this helps. Cheers from Canada
Dang right! All RV salesmen just wants to sell RVs and they'll do anything to get rid of them. Never mentioned front wheeled vs 4-wheeled SUV capabilities also.
Thanks, we appreciate it MV!
Would have been nice to have put the links to your recommendations and provide costs. Still I appreciate the list.
Thank you for sharing!
This helps me out considering that I'm currently browsing for trailers I can hopefully tow with a GMC Canyon.
Question, I am interested in the 2024 DUTCHMEN
EDDIE BAUER SIGNATURE 23RB with a dry weight of 5670lbs and I have a 2023 Ram 3.21 v8, 4 wheel drive, payload is 1620, Camping World Tow and Vin lookup using VIN# says max weight is 6400lbs. Is that accurate?
I’ve got a 5th Gen 4runner. Says towing capacity is5K. But most recommend not towing at all with a 4runner. Anyone confirm or deny? Thx!
Great question!
I'd recommend learning more about RV weight ratings in this article: blog.campingworld.com/find-your-rv/rv-buying-guide-understanding-rv-trailer-weight-ratings/
Many RVers also follow what's known as the 75 or 80% rule, which states that the total weight of your trailer when loaded shouldn't exceed 75-80% of your vehicle's towing capacity.
So that would be 4,000 pounds for your 4Runner. If you're interested, here's another collection of lightweight trailers to consider: blog.campingworld.com/find-your-rv/great-lightweight-travel-trailers-under-3000-pounds/
Hope that helps, but let us know if you have any follow up questions!
- Tucker Ballister
Good job. I enjoyed the video and it gave me a few things to look at.
We're so glad you enjoyed it!
I have a 2018 Forester and I just want to go from Long Island, NY to Florida with my 2 dogs and my parrot! That Geo pro looks great! But can my Subbie pull it that far & back?
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I cant find the which camper for 2018 Dodge Journey 6 cyl
You would have to verify, but I believe the 6 cyl has a tow capacity of 2,500 lbs. So you'd probably be looking at something like the Coleman Rubicon 1400BH (ruclips.net/video/U1J6-uu5l4o/видео.html)
-Ian Baker
the VW Tiguan inb North America can only tow 1,500lbs jet in Europe the same vehicle can toe 5,000lbs, why the difference?
This video is a bit misleading since towing capacity is one of the LAST things to consider when trying to tow with an SUV. MUCH more important is payload and GCWR, since you may be able to (theoretically) tow 5,000 lbs. with a particular SUV, BUT if your payload is only say 1,500 lbs., you will be at your payload (10-15% of trailer weight as hitch weight, passengers, cargo, etc.) WAY before you reach your towing capacity. I have now had 5 travel trailers, and have made sure that the tow vehicle has MORE than enough payload and GCWR to handle the job. I am always amazed at the number of TT's being towed down the road by vehicles which are nowhere near safe enough to tow them Not safe at all...putting themselves and others on the road around them at risk, simply because their dealer told them that the vehicle could tow a certain amount. Towing capacity is a big game that all manufacturers are playing, and it does not serve the public well because of the fact that you may be overloading your vehicle's axles, trans, and engine without getting anywhere near its towing capacity.
how would a payload of 1,500 lbs be problematic.... say you have tongue weight of 500lbs, that is 1,000 remaining; 4 passengers at say 150lb average, and you have 400 lbs left; what else would you cram in that SUV
@@mondvogel6124 Woohoo, a whopping 400lbs before you're at your max weight. Pull that baby in some breezy conditions & see how fun that is. Or pull it through a few mountains passes & see how long your brakes & trans hold up. There is a TON of GOOD towing info on RUclips. A DEALER doesn't give the best advice on towing. And Camping World is the worst dealer out there in MY experience with them. ✌
@Mark Genovesi Bravo Sir, great answer. 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@pamlove421 we are talking about tow vehicle weight, not trailer weight. A heavy tow vehicle is good and reduces trailer sway
Do mind sharing if there is a place I can figure what I can safely tow. I just purchased a 2018 gmc acadia denali and it does come eight the trailer/tow package and we want to be completely in the safe limits to go camping.
Such helpful information!!!! Thank you thank you thank you for adding these informative videos to your lineup.
I've been playlisting them for future reference. What doesn't apply to me now may down the road. RVers tend to go through multiple RVs during their lifetime. 😁
Absolutely Kara, my pleasure!! Richard had a good point in the comment section too that I missed when talking about SUV's, and that is the Cargo Carrying Capacity of the SUV. You need to make sure the SUV can handle all the people and gear loaded in it plus the tongue weight of the trailer. I'm glad you're loving the new series and we have plenty more planned for 2021!
-Ian Baker
Hi
I have 2013 chevy equinox LTz can I tow everything in this video?
Yours is probably a 3,500 lbs rating so Actually nothing. maybe a teardrop or a scamp or casita. But there around 40k or more.
A good built trailer is “Taylor coach “ made in Canada they got lightweight trailers starting at 8’ up to 24’ (8, 10, 12,, 14,16, 18 , 19, 20,22,24) but there’s a 4 year waiting list there made 1 at a time not mass produced 100 times better than a US made one and last a long time.
Customer service is excellent.
How much it costs to cross the border when you buy it I don’t know.
Am looking to buy a travel trailer i have a 2016 honda pilot my tow capacity stock its 3500lb what size travel trailer would you recommend
What is your zip code? We would be happy to connect you to your local dealership.
Is a 3500lb dry trailer pair good with a nissan Frontier 6200lb tow limit?
Hi Manuel! Depending on your tow capacity, you can take a look here: bit.ly/3u0fXsk
This is so overwhelming for a first time camper purchase. I’m interested in several different model campers but I’m so confused on which one, if any will be possible. There are certain requirements I need in a camper like a bathroom or wet bath, a separate dining and sleeping space, if not then it isn’t even worth it. I don’t want to have to convert a dining table to bed. I want to feel comfortable. I have the 2023, Honda Passport EX-L, V6 engine, AWD. I’m told the towing capacity is 5000 lbs but now I’m finding out that it doesn’t even matter. I was looking at the nuCamp 400, Little Guy Max, Flagstaff E-Pro E19FBS, but mostly liked the inTech Sol Horizon. If these aren’t even possible then why bother purchasing a camper at all?! 🤷🏻♀️ I certainly don’t want to purchase something that doesn’t work for me.
Hey Monica, Ian Baker here and I’m sorry you’re feeling overwhelmed, but I completely understand! Those are all really nice options and most should be possible for you to tow but will be pushing it. Honestly though, I would STRONGLY recommend the new Coleman Lantern 17R that JUST came out. It’ll be easily towable by your Honda Passport (it’s under 4,500 GVWR) and is a much lower financial commitment than some of the others you have listed here. That way you can firstly make sure you enjoy RVing and hopefully take some of the pressure off from your first time purchase. We just filmed a walkthrough of it and hope to have it up on RUclips in the next week or so. So be sure to subscribe so you can see as soon as we publish it!
-Ian Baker
How much will I be able to tow with a 2018 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring? As well, what are some travel campers do you recommend?
Check out our tow guide here! bit.ly/3dGfepV
Is a 2019 Nissan Pathfinder SV good for the Jay Flight Swift SLX? I need help!
Hi Nick!
You can use our towing guide to check your vehicle's towing capacity: rv.campingworld.com/towguide
Then compare that to the dry weight of the trailers you're interested in. But remember you'll likely add considerably more weight before you're ready to camp.
So here's another article that may be helpful: blog.campingworld.com/rv-basics/finding-your-rv/rv-buying-guide-understanding-rv-trailer-weight-ratings/
Let us know if you have any follow up questions!
- Tucker Ballister
I am thinking of getting a 1995-97 Nissan Pathfinder (V6 engine with automatic/over drive and hopefully 4X4 capabilities)... will that vehicle be considered as mid-SUV?
Yes, it would be. It should have around 3,500 tow capacity. Make sure you account for everything you plan on putting in your RV (including water in the fresh water tank) to determine if you can pull it. You'll also need to know the payload capacity of the vehicle as the tongue weight of the trailer, plus passengers and gear can often times be an issue for mid-size SUV's.
I’m looking for a video for 2017 Chevy Equinox LT AWD V6
It’s close towing a Caravan in the UK
Can tow and should tow are two very different propositions. Max tow is the last number to consider.
Ian Baker here and I completely agree and always recommend safety first. The last thing anyone wants is to burn up a transmission or destroy the suspension of a tow vehicle. Every situation requires the proper calculations as something as simple as traveling with full water tanks can greatly alter the ability to properly tow the trailer when you have a smaller tow vehicle. Thanks for watching and for the tip!
-Ian Baker
Okay I got a 2013 Lexus RX 350 will it tow 20’ trailer?
Hi there! Check out our helpful towing guide on our website, here -- rv.campingworld.com/towguide!
OR, tow the best of all, the Winnebago Minnie Winnie 1800!
We're a fan of Minnie Winnies too! 😊
You kept showing walk around beds up front WITH a bunkhouse. My money says you were showing 2 different models both times you did this, but maybe not. Can you confirm which travel trailers in this vid may have actually had BOTH bunks AND a walkaround double or queen up front?? Thanks
You are correct that they are two different units being shown and I'm sorry for any confusion! However, if that is what you're looking for then make sure the check out the Gulf Stream Enlighten 25BH. It is EXACTLY what you need. Just over 4,000 lbs dry, with double bunks in the back AND a walk around queen with an option for a murphy bed. You can see it in the review below. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
ruclips.net/video/kRQBN2vy4vk/видео.html
-Ian Baker
Hi there Emt fifteeneightyone, can you send me a PM and we can discuss some options. :)
@@campingworld Wait....7600lbs gross and I have the identical vehicle in your vid (Sorrento v6 AWD)....that's rated for 5k max. You think THAT'S what I need??🤔🤨
My 90s Jeep suv begs a differ
hey bro, i wanna can i use sienna to tow these camper trailers? some ppl said its risky to towing these, do i need to upgrade the brake system and air the rare suspension?
Traded in my sienna for a Highlander. Works great!
So hard to decide? a $30k RV with a $70k truck or SUV to tow it or maybe a $180k class B. Ok, a downpayment on a beach condo that we can rent much of the year makes sense.
Hey pm us so we can go over your options
Camp world towing guide
Here's the link to our towing guide: rv.campingworld.com/towguide
Maybe add a link to the CW Tow Guide webpage? Just sayin...
No problem, here you go! bit.ly/2LY8c5C
You never mentioned the weight of the trailers...
Hey there, Ian Baker here. Let me drop those for you here real quick. Granted these are all UVW, so you'll have to be REALLY careful with the Coleman and R-Pod if your tow vehicle has a 3,500 lb rating. Even though you can technically tow them, you'd have to pack most of your gear in another vehicle. The NoBo, Jay Flight and E-Pro are honestly better options for a 3,500 lb tow capacity vehicle.
1) NoBo 10.6 = 1,760 lbs
2) R-Pod RP153 = 3,159 lbs
3) Jay Flight SLX 154BH = 2,615 lbs
4) Coleman Lantern 17B = 3,050 lbs
5) Flagstaf E-Pro E15TB = 2,670 lbs
@@campingworld this is very helpful thank you so much Ian. I liked the E-Pro 15tb looked it up and found a 14fk would that be a better option? I have a 2020 Rav 4 TRD it states it can tow 3500lbs. Thanx again for you reply 🙏🏼
Why not include the sonic?
Great question Thomas! The short answer is that we tried to select some more popular options that had greater availability nationwide so more people could find an RV that works for them. There were a lot of GREAT RV's that would work that we weren't able to include in this list and the Sonic Lites are certainly among those! Let me know if you have anymore questions!
-Ian Baker
Interesting video, this should be mandatory for ALL CampingWorld Salesman, maybe then you wouldn’t waste customers time and lose sales upwards of $20k with uneducated and. Misinformed Salesmen! I will never waste another minute at Camping World
Hi baker how are you.
I'm good buddy, thanks for asking!
-Ian Baker
@@campingworld your welcome I have my own RUclips channel it is called Linc Ryan on RUclips please check it out Baker