I am relatively new to the hobby. I'm 20 and in college and have been running Lionel since the mid-1990s when I was given a simple 4-4-2 Santa Fe freight set one Christmas. So long as Lionel offers the basic smoking steamers that they have always offered, I don't worry about the crazy prices on these nicer trains. All it took was that 4-4-2 and its short freight with illuminated caboose to get me hooked, and today, I spend an extra couple hundred a month just to have a two bedroom apartment.
Cause whats the point of stereo sound from a locomotive if its in a 3d environment. Unless you want to fill it with speakers that play each individual sound, then a single speaker will do. It gives off a great effect none the less
That’s a wonderful idea. Maybe they could have some of the doors on the side open up so you could see the two prime movers inside. The engine is so big that they could fit all of the electronics in it.
And with that, I can now say that I'm officially a proud owner of the Lionel Vision Line UP Baldwin Centipedes. I found one for sale on Ebay earlier this week and got it for a very attractive price that I couldn't refuse. One of my most desired O gauge locomotives is now officially a part of my collection. Words can't describe how euphoric I'm right now. I will keep this set forever.
These older videos take me back. I remember going with my dad to his place of work one summer and just hanging out in his office binging both The Full Bucketniers and these reviews. Ah the olden days.
I think the engine exhaust is the best feature I have seen on any model loco, that includes sound to. You're never going to replicate steam engine smoke but I can see real progress with diesel engines and possibly gas turbines.
Alway informative! Thank you for the background and history on this unique locomotive, Eric! I like the fact that your review is not rushed and so thorough.
Eric, when you said "Postwar engines have maybe a pound or so of pulling power" I started putting weights on the frame of a tender for my postwar 2056...it can pull 15 pounds
The pulling force is measured laterally, not by how many pounds are being pulled. That same 15 pd weight would require much more pulling force if it wasn't on wheels, and that could be measured by attaching a pull force measuring device (like a fish weighing scale?) to the weights and seeing how much force is needed to pull them (I'm spit-balling about the fish scale, so maybe someone has a better method).
@@DarrellJMartin that was a misunderstanding that my dumb younger self got, in general I wasn't interpreting the words right, you are right I'm not telling you that you aren't it's just that in a more clear manner, it's tractive effort not how much it can pull, made that connection like 5 months ago
I just picked up an MTH Premier version from the MTH 2004 volume 1 edition. It's gorgeous. However, I'd still like to get this Lionel version, too. It's simply stunning.
Once again, thanks for another great review. It was because of you that I have the Vision Line CP Hybrid. I liked what you said about making innovations . It's like buying a car during it's first model year. Once your work out the kinks, you usually end up with a pretty good product. At least Lionel is trying to stay on the cutting edge. As for having both metal and plastic body engines, my other GEVO is the MTH one. I happen to like them both.
Eric, this is the first time it took me TWO cups of coffee to watch one of your videos...lol. This is a FANTASTIC lengthy video with a ton of good information in it. I like you postive opinion about Lionel being on the cutting edge. I agree, I want them to continue with these new ideas for our hobby. I also want to thank you Eric for the massive amount of time it must have takeb you to film and edit this video. I enjoyed kicking back with my coffee and watching this video soooo much... thanks
Watching this in Sept 2023. Great review as always and well done on showcasing the dual engine sound collaboration. What would this item retail for if it was just released today with 2023 pricing!
That is a lot of engine almost 4 feet, the camera definitely doesn't do the size justice, surprised you were able to get the whole thing in frame. It would certainly be magnificent to see this thing in person going down the rails. The moving fans and faint horn sounds are great minor but significant details that add to the realism. I find the Centipede to be very odd and very cool by its size and it not being a very successful engine in real life. I wish Lionel would do more of these weird/obscure engines that are more forlorn and not very mainstream as Vision Line models and bring more attention to them. It's also been awhile since they've made a Vision Line diesel, I would love it if they made a Vision F3 or something like that. Great video Eric!
Very nice set! This looks so good it's a shame the UP cancelled order. I can imagine photos of this locomotive on Sherman Hill. Thanks for sharing your video.
Yes, Broadway Limited is the only one (to my knowledge) that makes them, not sure if you can get one from their site still, but there are a couple on ebay, but I don't think there are any of them in a UP scheme.
Great review. You talked about the sound being good? No,it's GREAT!!!! The prime mover sounds were recorded using one of the only DRS-6-6-1500 locomotives, Magma #10, still running. It's located at the Arizona Railway Museum Chandler AZ. I have been next to this locomotive when running and as I listen I close my eyes and could almost feel the vibrations. I am into HO but love the detail Lionel put in. Wish our locomotives could have running fans.
Excellent review Eric.I run N-Gauge myself,but I really enjoy your well thought-out product reviews and appreciate how you present the products.Regarding your time and effort you put into these presentations,I think it would be a nice gesture on the manufacturers part if some their marketing people would step up to the plate and offer you their new prototypes and other product releases to review for us at a substancial discount or even free due to the fact that it is a good promotion.Thanks Bud.
Were all the centipedes built before the process of turbochraging the motors? This is a really nice model! It would look nice in any layout set from 1947-today!
A few nits: Centipedes had two 8-cylinder motors in them, not one--I heard only one start up. UP didn't introduce silver trucks until ~1956--long after Centipede (and Baldwin) production ceased--they would have been Harbor Mist Gray like other UP locos of the era. The rear of the unit should be yellow to match the sides; all-gray rear ends came along around the same time as the silver trucks. Still, a great fantasy set--if only Baldwin's lengthy delay in delivering them caused UP to cancel their order.
Great engine! When you first started the hobby, and you hooked the legacy base to mth tiu, did you ever have a problem when your legacy engine was on the same track as an mth engine, your mth engine or engines would have problems, like reseting its self or not even turning on?
Even though they weren’t successful back in the day, the vision of basically a diesel Big boy, is massive; imagine the massive amount of power if you used todays parts and traction motors, with a massive diesel engine, would be immense, be the world’s most powerful locomotive and diesel engine the world, and replace multiple engines together, although if you had the engine generator the length of the engine, you would have to either hook it up to an oil tanker, or make a faux B-Unit that holds the diesel fuel
The engine's legacy is slightly complex, none of it's major failings (aside from the visuals) are it's fault, Baldwin didn't build these on an assembly line but two at a time resulting in maintenance being a hassle, they also chose to use an air throttle, killing off compatability with other engines and mandating an engineer to each cab. In terms of actual performance the engine did everything it was asked for and more. Even today it would be considered a viable option based on specs alone. If Baldwin had built these diesels like diesels and not steam engines it would have been a different story.
Great review Eric, the detail on those trucks is incredible, and the sound is great! Awesome fans on top as well! Looks like they hit the nail on the head with this engine. Thanks for sharing, and have a great one!
I do not really care for diesel but these two look at more of these two diesel engines are really fantastic well the fans and everything well Lionel has really done with this if good favor by giving us such fantastic products
At "The Train Loft" I saw a single Centipede with the cab window inserts imploded as you had described. At the time I was wondering what had happened to it, but now I know.
Cooling fans were have been electrically driven (not directly connected to either motor) and thermostatically controlled based on coolant temp, not engine speed. If the engine was just starting and the motors cold, they wouldn't be rotating at all.
Amazing review. Thanks again for all the time you put into this. You have really done so much to help our hobby grow. The sound seems amazing even via video. After watching your review I am wondering if it is prototypical for every engine to have 2 builders plates. I would imagine that it is if Lionel adds 2 to every engine. Thanks again Eric, really enjoyed kicking back for an hour and watching your review!
I think the centipedes are one rare occasion where I'd rather have a pilot version than a painted version. The pilot models look very nice and since these were so obscure irl I feel like it would look equally out of place either way. Also, since they aren't in any of my favorite schemes, I would want a Milwaukee road one if they made one and I could find the money.
Despite the failure, I bet if all the flaws were fixed, these locomotives would actually work and be fast freights and express passenger engines. Unfortunately, Baldwin ruined their chances
AWESOME review Eric!!!!! I love the Centipede and think it was worth every penny. I agree with you that the sound system is the best feature and believe that it is without a doubt the best sound system ever put into a model engine. I also agree with you that innovation with some operating issues is far better than no innovations at all. Hopefully Lionel will continue with the Vision Line and advanced features!!! Anyways, thanks again for all your hard work bro and have a great one!
The two units #998 and #999 were originally the two demonstrators and would go to the Union Pacific after demonstrating. But, like you said UP cancelled the order and Baldwin ended up scrapping them.
Not bashing Lionel or anything here, but anyone else notice the front fan has a short blade? That might cause some of the extra noise people are complaining about, if multiple fans like that ended up in the same model, could cause balance issues.
I like your videos, very detailed and informative about each locomotive. Is there another video depicting how the centipede negotiates curves? Very interesting! Thank you!
Great video Eric! I liked the look at the Colorado Room. That thing is massive! It looks so weird going through curves. BTW, I just bought that Morton Salt Hopper the other day so it's funny to see it in your video now.
When you were demonstrating the horn sounds, and there is a reverb effect in stereo...wouldn't it have been better to locate the camera mid units? i.e. in the center where the units combine. Unless your camera isn't equipped with stereo mic's which in these modern times would be unusual.
Sorry, but at this price, a comprehensive R&D should have been done. If it's up to the customer to debug these high line features, some sort of compensation should be extended.
Did you happen to have a slight issue with your engines when you first got them? When I went to go pick them up from the train shop, I tested them on the test track and got lights, sounds, and smoke, but it wouldn't move forward or reverse. When I got home, I tested them on my own personal test track, and everything worked as it should. A friend of mine in my club bought the Pennsy version new and he had an issue with them. He sent it back to the train shop, which then sent them off to Lionel, who corrected the issue. Apparently, Lionel knew there was a slight problem with these engines but never issued a recall apparently because they did not want to deal with backlash and everyone sending in their engines to Lionel for repair. I'm just curious to find out if yours had the same problem right out of the box.
Eric. You hands down do the best reviews on RUclips. Lionel is sure making some amazing products these days. I just wish I could afford one. Any one. LOL
Trainlover 4449 yea because he also makes mistakes so he makes his videos in segments so that if he screws up he only has to fix that section of about 1 to 2 mins instead of a whole video. He is working smarter not harder.
Union Pacific ordered a pair of Centipedes from Baldwin but canceled the order before taking delivery. Baldwin kept them as a demonstrator set. Lionel (and BLI in HO and N scales) produced their Centipedes in this "what if?" UP livery, but unlike a lot of fantasy liveries this one has a realistic basis.
Eric. Awesome review. Amazing engine. Keep up the outstanding work. I noticed two GE Evo's on the layout. Hoping for a Lionel Vision vs. MTH Premier comparison in the near future???
Just a comment about the fans.. I want to say first off Im not a hobbist.. but it seems to me that , well I have a multi-speed fan noise increases as I turn the speed up. .yes its a result of the fan mechanics moving faster. Is it just me or does it just make sense? I watch alot of videos on youtube and it seems like some people just want to find something to complain about. Maybe their parents never taught them that if they cant say anything nice, they shouldn't say anything at all. I know manufacturers want feedback, and like the maker of this video said constructive criticism is great.(paraphrased) As I said before Im not a train hobbist, I do not have the money or the space for layouts. But I do really enjoy watching videos like this one.. Many many years ago I had a "basic" kids version set of Lionel trains.. sorry to say it did not survive the rough treatment. I really enjoyed this video, Im sure if Siskel and Ebert were alive today I firmly believe it would generate two thumbs up.
This is not a starter set by any means. This is a "conoisseur" product. They are "flexing and exhibiting" that they are capable to do high end products. Just look at the Acela model for example. Today it still fetches mid thousand dollar prices pre-owned! The "targeted audience" is the Weaver and Atlas clientele.
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Guys the reason why Eric talks so much is to inform you. Its better to know more than know less. To me Erics "too much talking" helps!
"Centipede"
quite a frightening name for a locomotive with such a cute face
its called that cuase its long
@Tommy Mathew let's make it longer
I am relatively new to the hobby. I'm 20 and in college and have been running Lionel since the mid-1990s when I was given a simple 4-4-2 Santa Fe freight set one Christmas. So long as Lionel offers the basic smoking steamers that they have always offered, I don't worry about the crazy prices on these nicer trains. All it took was that 4-4-2 and its short freight with illuminated caboose to get me hooked, and today, I spend an extra couple hundred a month just to have a two bedroom apartment.
How come model trains don't have stereo sound????? we have those types of speakers in our phones so what's the big deal???????
Cause whats the point of stereo sound from a locomotive if its in a 3d environment. Unless you want to fill it with speakers that play each individual sound, then a single speaker will do. It gives off a great effect none the less
Some of their Vision Line features have already worked their way down the line. The smoking whistle is now on some of the starter sets.
Lionel just went nuts when making this centipede did they?
Imagine a Vision Line rendition of the DDA40X or the UP 3rd Gen Gas Turbine.
That’s a wonderful idea. Maybe they could have some of the doors on the side open up so you could see the two prime movers inside. The engine is so big that they could fit all of the electronics in it.
There is a o scale train for the turbine
And with that, I can now say that I'm officially a proud owner of the Lionel Vision Line UP Baldwin Centipedes. I found one for sale on Ebay earlier this week and got it for a very attractive price that I couldn't refuse. One of my most desired O gauge locomotives is now officially a part of my collection. Words can't describe how euphoric I'm right now. I will keep this set forever.
nice, way to go!
One magnificent model! The sound and workmanship exquisite--makes me almost want to get into modeling. Well done, Lionel!
These older videos take me back. I remember going with my dad to his place of work one summer and just hanging out in his office binging both The Full Bucketniers and these reviews.
Ah the olden days.
What a monster! And yet it is so sophisticated. This vision line is breathtaking.
OK I think my Big boy engine just shrunk compared to this beast lol
catlover 2345 I think so
We should all shrink the Virginian triplexes
Hey Eric, here's an idea I thought of: Use the 999 engine and it's "ghostly sounds" as a Halloween/spooky thing. The Ghost Train! :D
26:03 you spit on the train
I think the engine exhaust is the best feature I have seen on any model loco, that includes sound to. You're never going to replicate steam engine smoke but I can see real progress with diesel engines and possibly gas turbines.
Great job Eric! I agree its very nice to see how MTH and Lionel are really moving forward in innovations.
Alway informative! Thank you for the background and history on this unique locomotive, Eric! I like the fact that your review is not rushed and so thorough.
Beautiful wouldnt have been my first choice of words
Eric, when you said "Postwar engines have maybe a pound or so of pulling power" I started putting weights on the frame of a tender for my postwar 2056...it can pull 15 pounds
The pulling force is measured laterally, not by how many pounds are being pulled. That same 15 pd weight would require much more pulling force if it wasn't on wheels, and that could be measured by attaching a pull force measuring device (like a fish weighing scale?) to the weights and seeing how much force is needed to pull them (I'm spit-balling about the fish scale, so maybe someone has a better method).
@@DarrellJMartin that was a misunderstanding that my dumb younger self got, in general I wasn't interpreting the words right, you are right I'm not telling you that you aren't it's just that in a more clear manner, it's tractive effort not how much it can pull, made that connection like 5 months ago
I just picked up an MTH Premier version from the MTH 2004 volume 1 edition. It's gorgeous. However, I'd still like to get this Lionel version, too. It's simply stunning.
If I'm not mistaken, the ghostly UP 999 would be great as a lead engine for a ghost train scene in a movie!
Kerry Freeman That would be pretty cool. And it's even better because if you flip 999 upside down, what do you get? Perfect ghost locomotive.
@@thatredfokker no it won't
It would look stupid.
To the average outsider, yes.
Do you mean flipping the numbers? Then that would be a perfect ghost loco
@@thatredfokker Flip the numbers over? Is that what you meant?
Once again, thanks for another great review. It was because of you that I have the Vision Line CP Hybrid. I liked what you said about making innovations . It's like buying a car during it's first model year. Once your work out the kinks, you usually end up with a pretty good product. At least Lionel is trying to stay on the cutting edge. As for having both metal and plastic body engines, my other GEVO is the MTH one. I happen to like them both.
Eric, this is the first time it took me TWO cups of coffee to watch one of your videos...lol. This is a FANTASTIC lengthy video with a ton of good information in it. I like you postive opinion about Lionel being on the cutting edge. I agree, I want them to continue with these new ideas for our hobby.
I also want to thank you Eric for the massive amount of time it must have takeb you to film and edit this video. I enjoyed kicking back with my coffee and watching this video soooo much... thanks
Really cool, but $2199? Christ I've bought cars for less than that. Recently! Working ones. Wow. Really slick though for sure.
thenekom
I kinda want to make my own model train engine partially to see how much I can actually make it
thenekom that's how you know this guy makes a decent amount of money 💰
Well you have to take into account that these locomotives have extremely unique and detailed features, so therefore the models will cost more.
thenekom The one next to the no
Great looking locos only seen pics of a centipede. Your narration was great and very knowledgeable.
Watching this in Sept 2023. Great review as always and well done on showcasing the dual engine sound collaboration. What would this item retail for if it was just released today with 2023 pricing!
Probably $2500 or so.
That is a lot of engine almost 4 feet, the camera definitely doesn't do the size justice, surprised you were able to get the whole thing in frame. It would certainly be magnificent to see this thing in person going down the rails. The moving fans and faint horn sounds are great minor but significant details that add to the realism. I find the Centipede to be very odd and very cool by its size and it not being a very successful engine in real life. I wish Lionel would do more of these weird/obscure engines that are more forlorn and not very mainstream as Vision Line models and bring more attention to them. It's also been awhile since they've made a Vision Line diesel, I would love it if they made a Vision F3 or something like that. Great video Eric!
I'm sorry but $2,200 for this thing? Wow, this train better deliver me sandwiches on demand for that price.
And regular conjugal visits.
or at least be indestructible
But i'd rather build an entire layout for that money.
I did that with my train never got all the crumbs out of the cars
then maybe its time for a new hobby...…….
Very nice set! This looks so good it's a shame the UP cancelled order. I can imagine photos of this locomotive on Sherman Hill.
Thanks for sharing your video.
PS: The diesel sound is wrong. It's the sound of an Alco 244 prime mover and not the low rpm Baldwin 608SC.
I have a centipede and I absolutely love it
Boy I love the Centipede locomotive! It is a beauty!
The Horn almost sounds like Southern Pacific GS-6 (Unpainted Pilot) GS-2 (Daylight)
Yes, Broadway Limited is the only one (to my knowledge) that makes them, not sure if you can get one from their site still, but there are a couple on ebay, but I don't think there are any of them in a UP scheme.
I cant find the web shop where you can buy the Lionel engines you review!
+D I S C O V E R Y Oh HELLO There
Great review. You talked about the sound being good? No,it's GREAT!!!! The prime mover sounds were recorded using one of the only DRS-6-6-1500 locomotives, Magma #10, still running. It's located at the Arizona Railway Museum Chandler AZ. I have been next to this locomotive when running and as I listen I close my eyes and could almost feel the vibrations. I am into HO but love the detail Lionel put in. Wish our locomotives could have running fans.
Excellent review Eric.I run N-Gauge myself,but I really enjoy your well thought-out product reviews and appreciate how you present the products.Regarding your time and effort you put into these presentations,I think it would be a nice gesture on the manufacturers part if some their marketing people would step up to the plate and offer you their new prototypes and other product releases to review for us at a substancial discount or even free due to the fact that it is a good promotion.Thanks Bud.
Were all the centipedes built before the process of turbochraging the motors?
This is a really nice model! It would look nice in any layout set from 1947-today!
A few nits: Centipedes had two 8-cylinder motors in them, not one--I heard only one start up. UP didn't introduce silver trucks until ~1956--long after Centipede (and Baldwin) production ceased--they would have been Harbor Mist Gray like other UP locos of the era. The rear of the unit should be yellow to match the sides; all-gray rear ends came along around the same time as the silver trucks. Still, a great fantasy set--if only Baldwin's lengthy delay in delivering them caused UP to cancel their order.
Great engine! When you first started the hobby, and you hooked the legacy base to mth tiu, did you ever have a problem when your legacy engine was on the same track as an mth engine, your mth engine or engines would have problems, like reseting its self or not even turning on?
Fuck, a four foot locomotive? My entire layout is four feet wide. I live in an apartment, so I'm pretty much stuck with N scale.
Even though they weren’t successful back in the day,
the vision of basically a diesel Big boy, is massive;
imagine the massive amount of power if you used todays parts and traction motors, with a massive diesel engine, would be immense, be the world’s most powerful locomotive and diesel engine the world, and replace multiple engines together, although if you had the engine generator the length of the engine, you would have to either hook it up to an oil tanker, or make a faux B-Unit that holds the diesel fuel
The engine's legacy is slightly complex, none of it's major failings (aside from the visuals) are it's fault, Baldwin didn't build these on an assembly line but two at a time resulting in maintenance being a hassle, they also chose to use an air throttle, killing off compatability with other engines and mandating an engineer to each cab.
In terms of actual performance the engine did everything it was asked for and more. Even today it would be considered a viable option based on specs alone. If Baldwin had built these diesels like diesels and not steam engines it would have been a different story.
Great review Eric, the detail on those trucks is incredible, and the sound is great! Awesome fans on top as well! Looks like they hit the nail on the head with this engine. Thanks for sharing, and have a great one!
I do not really care for diesel but these two look at more of these two diesel engines are really fantastic well the fans and everything well Lionel has really done with this if good favor by giving us such fantastic products
At "The Train Loft" I saw a single Centipede with the cab window inserts imploded as you had described. At the time I was wondering what had happened to it, but now I know.
Cooling fans were have been electrically driven (not directly connected to either motor) and thermostatically controlled based on coolant temp, not engine speed. If the engine was just starting and the motors cold, they wouldn't be rotating at all.
Subjective comment but I'd have gone for the Pennsy 5 stripe version. But what a beast these things were! Maintenance nightmare from all accounts.
Amazing review. Thanks again for all the time you put into this. You have really done so much to help our hobby grow. The sound seems amazing even via video. After watching your review I am wondering if it is prototypical for every engine to have 2 builders plates. I would imagine that it is if Lionel adds 2 to every engine.
Thanks again Eric, really enjoyed kicking back for an hour and watching your review!
I picked up the Baldwin demonstrators last year and they rarely are run, as they look awkward while pulling 100 Scale Diecast Ore Cars.
I agree. What's the point of giving negative opinions constantly?
I wonder in Lionel will make the seaboard and Mexico railways paint scheme later
I think the centipedes are one rare occasion where I'd rather have a pilot version than a painted version. The pilot models look very nice and since these were so obscure irl I feel like it would look equally out of place either way. Also, since they aren't in any of my favorite schemes, I would want a Milwaukee road one if they made one and I could find the money.
I model N too, but I'm subbed to N, HO, O, and a couple other scales. no point in just staying stuck in your own scale.
Doesnt installing the fan switch void the warrentee? Lionel should have installed that instead of putting in lights to illuminate the fans.
Despite the failure, I bet if all the flaws were fixed, these locomotives would actually work and be fast freights and express passenger engines.
Unfortunately, Baldwin ruined their chances
Are you talking about 1/2 centipede that's just the single unit?
AWESOME review Eric!!!!! I love the Centipede and think it was worth every penny. I agree with you that the sound system is the best feature and believe that it is without a doubt the best sound system ever put into a model engine. I also agree with you that innovation with some operating issues is far better than no innovations at all. Hopefully Lionel will continue with the Vision Line and advanced features!!! Anyways, thanks again for all your hard work bro and have a great one!
Mr. Siegel, in the video when you explained how UP never received and how they were scrapped. Units #998 and #999 were the two demonstrator units.
Wait, really?
The two units #998 and #999 were originally the two demonstrators and would go to the Union Pacific after demonstrating. But, like you said UP cancelled the order and Baldwin ended up scrapping them.
Not bashing Lionel or anything here, but anyone else notice the front fan has a short blade? That might cause some of the extra noise people are complaining about, if multiple fans like that ended up in the same model, could cause balance issues.
I like your videos, very detailed and informative about each locomotive. Is there another video depicting how the centipede negotiates curves? Very interesting! Thank you!
Wow that locomotive is sweet! I saw something similar on my favorite road: PRR.
Great video Eric! I liked the look at the Colorado Room. That thing is massive! It looks so weird going through curves. BTW, I just bought that Morton Salt Hopper the other day so it's funny to see it in your video now.
When you were demonstrating the horn sounds, and there is a reverb effect in stereo...wouldn't it have been better to locate the camera mid units? i.e. in the center where the units combine. Unless your camera isn't equipped with stereo mic's which in these modern times would be unusual.
So much more can be accomplished with more positive and constructive feedback, if only the world worked this way.
Sorry, but at this price, a comprehensive R&D should have been done. If it's up to the customer to debug these high line features, some sort of compensation should be extended.
Did you happen to have a slight issue with your engines when you first got them? When I went to go pick them up from the train shop, I tested them on the test track and got lights, sounds, and smoke, but it wouldn't move forward or reverse. When I got home, I tested them on my own personal test track, and everything worked as it should. A friend of mine in my club bought the Pennsy version new and he had an issue with them. He sent it back to the train shop, which then sent them off to Lionel, who corrected the issue. Apparently, Lionel knew there was a slight problem with these engines but never issued a recall apparently because they did not want to deal with backlash and everyone sending in their engines to Lionel for repair. I'm just curious to find out if yours had the same problem right out of the box.
I never had any issues with mine and never heard of any widespread issue with them.
Eric. You hands down do the best reviews on RUclips. Lionel is sure making some amazing products these days. I just wish I could afford one. Any one. LOL
Did anyone else notice that during the Stats part the locomotive in the back-round was always changing?
Trainlover 4449 yea because he also makes mistakes so he makes his videos in segments so that if he screws up he only has to fix that section of about 1 to 2 mins instead of a whole video. He is working smarter not harder.
Thanks Eric. What a great review. I always look forward to viewing you next train blog.
The Colorado room has made great progress!
A beautiful locomotive, but I was never aware of or heard of a Union Pacific Baldwin Centipede.
Union Pacific ordered a pair of Centipedes from Baldwin but canceled the order before taking delivery. Baldwin kept them as a demonstrator set. Lionel (and BLI in HO and N scales) produced their Centipedes in this "what if?" UP livery, but unlike a lot of fantasy liveries this one has a realistic basis.
Love your reviews just wish these things were more affordable
What type of horn does this locomotive use? I like the sound of it.
I would give the fans in the train a FANtastic rating.
Question, how would this look on O-27 track ?
How exactly
Balto dumb
It would look like a shiny yellow dung
Balto lol so true
o72 is the best track for it
Interesting, I agree I'm always looking for oddball locos like BNSF #9647 which I received the other day.
I model in HO but these locos were/are very cool and sound great
This is one locomotive I am surprised they produced! The "centipede" would be one of the most difficult to make and ultimately sought after.....
I heard that a former lionel employee joined Broadway Limited and helped put their Centipede into production.
Eric. Awesome review. Amazing engine. Keep up the outstanding work. I noticed two GE Evo's on the layout. Hoping for a Lionel Vision vs. MTH Premier comparison in the near future???
why are three rail layouts. whats the advantages?
The reverb effect is actually a delay effect
i love the horn if u dont know what type of horn it is its a leslie a200
Nice improvement in the Colorado Room with the canyon!!
Eric thank u for all ur great video's a great looking train and layout u have there
keep making video's
thank u again
Very good review Eric. If I had all the money in the world (and O72 curves, lol) I'd buy one of these for sure, they look awesome!
Eric great video's Ive seen a lot of the others but yours are the best.
Could you do a video on the N&W Jawn Henry; I believe I’ve seen a few models on it but they could be custom considering how unknown it seems to be
Lionel is making a Vision Line rendition of the Union Pacific Big Boy.
Just a comment about the fans.. I want to say first off Im not a hobbist.. but it seems to me that , well I have a multi-speed fan noise increases as I turn the speed up. .yes its a result of the fan mechanics moving faster. Is it just me or does it just make sense? I watch alot of videos on youtube and it seems like some people just want to find something to complain about. Maybe their parents never taught them that if they cant say anything nice, they shouldn't say anything at all.
I know manufacturers want feedback, and like the maker of this video said constructive criticism is great.(paraphrased)
As I said before Im not a train hobbist, I do not have the money or the space for layouts. But I do really enjoy watching videos like this one.. Many many years ago I had a "basic" kids version set of Lionel trains.. sorry to say it did not survive the rough treatment. I really enjoyed this video, Im sure if Siskel and Ebert were alive today I firmly believe it would generate two thumbs up.
This is not a starter set by any means. This is a "conoisseur" product. They are "flexing and exhibiting" that they are capable to do high end products. Just look at the Acela model for example. Today it still fetches mid thousand dollar prices pre-owned! The "targeted audience" is the Weaver and Atlas clientele.
What about the 3800 Challenger or an SP Atlantic?
Woud you allow me to use a bit of footage fro this video? (Don't worry. My channel is anti-profit. Only for entertainment and music videos.)
yeah, just as long as you credit me for the video you use. Send me a link to the video when it's done!
@@Ericstrains Thank you so much!^^
Can I use the YT short too in the same video? ~Lexie
Lionel should make a vision line big boy if they do Eric please get cause deer lord I wouldn't be able to afford it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I am not too familiar with Centipede units.
It's in the video.
just wondering if it would be possible to run this engine with a set of up passenger cars between them or would you have to run the engines together
Would love to see a video of your whole layout
I IMAGINE THAT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF THE PROTOTYPE IS A LACK OF FUEL TANK CAPACITY!!
WITH ALL WHEELS BELOW AND TWO ENGINES AND AUXILIARIES UPSTAIRS,LEFT LITTLE ROOM FOR FUEL TANKS!!
STILL IT IS TOO BAD NONE WERE SAVED IN PRESERVATION!!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
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Why does the rear unit weigh more?