As a Kiwi I just laughed. It was the perfect game to watch RIGHT before my All Black's were about to take on France. I remember thinking "What a sad bunch losing in the quarter finals, that would never happen to us" I really did think that.
As a Kiwi, I almost cried for Australia. Wilkinson almost single-handedly knocked them out, in 2 consecutive world cup. I was more sad for our rivals across the ditch for the loss than All Blacks disappointing run. Losing to Wilkinson twice like that cannot be easy to swallow.
@@airstyles1989 Was no different for the French, knocked out by Wilkinson two world cups in a row, both Semi Finals, would have to say that's worse aha
What made it even sweeter was that the Aussies weren't "on the plane home tomorrow" as they hadn't booked the flights as they expected to beat those men in white. What a weekend...
Being of Scots extraction, I was lea ning towards Australia and, like almost everyone else outside of England, thought the Wallabies were far too good to get beaten. At the end, I nodded and thought " Fair do's, England. " That forward display was phenomenal. You can't play attacking rugby with your back line when your forwards are being marched backwards for 80 minutes. Strangely enough, England being so poor from the start of the tournament probably have them an edge. After USA almost beat them and South Africa slaughtered them, every game for them was in effect a knockout match. Australia, meanwhile, sailed through their group without being remotely tested, so were possibly undercooked for the intensity of a quarter final. That England side had no right to get anywhere near the final, so for them to do it was a great achievement. Hats off to their never-say-die spirit. They could do with it now!
+Patrick Gifford ODI cricket is crap, real cricket (test cricket) is what it's all about. How many Ashes series have you won in the last 10 years compared to England?Cycling; where to even being. Tour de France, Olympics, World Championships etc... Britain has been FAR more successful than Australia in the last 10 years.You seriously think Australia has enjoyed my success than the UK in Gold? GOLF?? What planet are you on?!I was born and raised in the UK. I'm half Irish and half Italian (hence my user name)
+Patrick Gifford As I said in my in my original post 10- 15 years ago Australia were dominant, however in the last 10 years not only have England/ Britain caught up but we've surpassed you. We have won 5 out of 7 Ashes series, come considerably higher than you in the past 2 Olympics, are far more dominant in Cycling, Boxing, Tennis, Golf etc than Australia. We recently hosted what was widely considered (even by the Aussie press) the best Olympics of all time. When it comes to sport Australia has had it's day. To think otherwise shows how deluded you are. I like you guys too, but seriously, you need to get over this "We're superior in sport" nonsense. It simply isn't true any more.
+Patrick Gifford Erm this comment seems to suggest otherwise: "Australia beat england in every sport but football and tennis"But anyway I'll leave it there. Good luck to you guys! :-)
The wonderful thing about rugby is by sheer emotion and togetherness, you can dig bloody deep and compete against form teams. On the surface , uneducated rugby fans may think this game is bland and boring. It remains one of my favorites despite not being a supporter of either of these two teams...far from it ! Anyone who has played regular rugby will understand what it is to come through a game like this and win and the bond you develop with your team mates.Love it.Thanks for posting...have not seen this for some time.
Same with other sports. I like Rugby as an American but AF trumps it IMO. I just wish foreigners who make fun of AF learn more about it then try to make fun of it.
The journey of England 2007 is very much like the journey of France in 2011, 2 mediocre teams who achieved to reach the final... and who delayed the revolution needed in both selections.
Good point. In a way, England's disastrous 2015, and France's disastrous years leading up to 2019 were the catalysts for those countries finally getting proper coaches in.
Commentator at the end: “The wallabies just looked stunned to be honest” Yes because they thought they had no chance whatsoever of loosing. One of my favourite England games of my era (1995-present)
The England pack was brutal in this match and bullied the Aussies into submission. They just did the basics well and played to their strengths. This match and the one against France in the semi's were some of the most gutsy displays of rugby I've seen from an England team. Written off before the tournament and they were having none of it.
Agreed - this was not a great England side. But we did the basics well, and the boot of Jonny Wilkinson was always reliable. I don't think the team and Brian Ashton got the credit they deserved for this RWC, because before the start of the tournament, we had no business being in the final.
Absolutely. In the 2nd half, they looked monstered by our tight 5. In those days, 10-man rugby worked at World Cups, and few teams played it better than England at that time.
England only had an average team in 2007 (though they did get to the final that year and have a try very Controversially disallowed, but anyway they were an average team) Australia should have beaten them, but they showed real strength and determination that day, they were a real credit. Second world cup running that England beat Austraila, after that amazing 2003 team beat them in the final.
I don’t agree. That was a good team. Not a great one, but good. Ashton was trying to get them to play a style of rugby they didn’t really understand. In many ways, Ashton was ahead of his time - he wanted English players to start playing what was ahead of them, rather than to a pattern. It didn’t suit the players, although you can see the seeds of it in this game with them trying to play with width and making off-loads. You’re right though, it was guts that got them to that final.
This was a full-on test match: English forward power against fantastic Aussie backs. As close as it could be. Aussie commentators very good and more than fair, in fact very generous, to England.
This is bleak viewing as an Aussie fan. I remember sitting at home that day and thinking WTF!!! I know people say that this wasn't the strongest England side, but they certainly turned up when it mattered and they pulled our pants down. Shame they didn't end up winning this WC because I thought they deserved to in the end. Also Cueto did score that try in the final. My opinion anywaym
I love England Vs Australia. Largely because it's often very close, Especially at world cups. England will knock out Australia in two world cups, Australia tanned the hides of the English in the English world cup and now England have a team which look like they will threaten Australia in their own backyards. A little after this game Wilkinson and Gitau were playing for a magnificent Toulon team.
Remember the day this happened. I was in a clothing store in Brisbane, we were huge underdogs. I said to the Aussies working in the store that we'd twat them, they said ''we'll think of ya when England lose.'' Never saw them again, but they'll remember me ahha.
This was personally most painful loss I've felt, supporting the Wallabies. It was like being hexed. It was the end of a golden generation that has never come close to being recaptured. It was typical of so many Eng vs Aus matches dating back to 2000. Australia would have the Better Backs, England would have the Better Forwards. Australia would habitually score more tries than England yet England would kick themselves to victory via Johnny's boot. Wilkinson didn't even kick that well this game, but again typical of Australia, they kicked worse.
Poor old Brian Ashton left to tidy Andy Robinson's despicable miss. John Wells doesn't get enough credit (the forward coach) as England basically got to the finals by winning scrum penalties. Back line was made up of old players and two inexperienced ones
FlyingG Sports - yep 👍 was tryna think of his name (Brian Ashton) until I read your comments.... I remember the English media criticising the appointment!! Like, what the fuck were we supposed to do in the middle of a World Cup tournament? Morons and still are ! We did well but unlike 2003 we were fundamentally a poor team. Took balls and guts during adversity to get to the final that year.
Because he isn't bound before the ball comes out. The law says the flanker must have a full arm bind on the scrum until the ball is out. Elsom was holding on with his hand. Obvious penalty.
I'm an England fan, but I didn't think the Aussie commentators were that bad - just listen to NZ commentators in any AB game if you want to hear what one-eyed, miserable humourless commentating sounds like!
I think I agree, there are a few lazy comments but in general they're pretty fair. Australia are much less unbearable when it comes to rugby than either New Zealand or South Africa.
Matthew Zunder They are indeed Australian. Even in this era, Australia had 2 x Rugby test broadcasters (Fox, and which ever FTA network it was at the time). The main commentator here was a Channel 10 ring in using the syndicated footage, I believe. The best Australian Rugby commentator hands down is Gordon Bray - but at the time he had a deal with the wrong network...
When Wilkinson raised the goal kicking bar of International Rugby, all top tier nations responded except for Australia. The Wallabies haven't had a decent kicker since Michael Lynagh. We're still stuck with Bernard Foley and he kicks at around 70%. It's cost Australia many matches over the last 20+ years.
Ah, the bra jerseys. England's red sash/swoosh looked pretty awful too, tbh. Couldn't believe we won this, and the win against France was even better. Did Brian Ashton actually do anything? I always got the feeling the players managed themselves during his tenure - he didn't really seem to know what was going on.
@@danielvenn2811 I think historically England generally wore black socks - the blue socks are an approximation of that, but I agree that blue looks all kinds of wrong. Black socks make sense from a mens' tailoring perspective. The rule of thumb for men is that socks and shoes should be approximately, the same colour. Until a few years ago rugby boots were of course exclusively black, so black socks went well with them. I should stress that I don't know for a fact that this is why England wore/wear black socks, but it's my working theory. Black boots and white socks doesn't look great.
@@robicenco1 you learn something new every day 😅 that’s an interesting and probably a very correct take on it. It all now makes some more sense why it was like that historically. But yea I reckon white nowadays would be the one!
@@danielvenn2811 If you're wearing white boots, white socks and and all-white kit is definitely the business (at the start of the game at least - by the end of most test matches England's players are wearing mostly brown + whatever colour the advertisements are painted on the pitch with). I think England only wore white historically because it was the only "colour" you could boil wash to get the mud out. So while it feels like our sacred kit, the real reason is kind of prosaic.
I remember hearing that he (and other place-kickers) found that 2007 ball really difficult to hit accurately as it was significantly lighter, causing it to move around in the air significantly.
This was a pretty crap England team but man did they have heart, France in 2011 were in the boat and just lost by 1 point whereas everyone was saying the All Blacks were gonna thrash them.
Vrai, Certes, tout le meilleur que l'Angleterre a atteint la finale , mais on a trouvé dépourvu par les saffas , battre le français bien. Swings and Roundabouts.
Who's had the better success in RWCs 1987 - Australia 1991 - Australia -Champions 1995 - England 1999 - Australia - Champions 2003 - England - Champions 2007 - England 2011 - Australia 2015 - Australia 2019 - England
These commentators are terrible. Throwing punches in the scrum fine, doing a high charge not even attempting to use the arms fine. Do these pillocks even understand the game?
As a Kiwi I just laughed. It was the perfect game to watch RIGHT before my All Black's were about to take on France. I remember thinking "What a sad bunch losing in the quarter finals, that would never happen to us" I really did think that.
As a Kiwi, I almost cried for Australia. Wilkinson almost single-handedly knocked them out, in 2 consecutive world cup.
I was more sad for our rivals across the ditch for the loss than All Blacks disappointing run.
Losing to Wilkinson twice like that cannot be easy to swallow.
@@airstyles1989 Was no different for the French, knocked out by Wilkinson two world cups in a row, both Semi Finals, would have to say that's worse aha
What happened in that game?
@@robinchalmers4279 we lost in the quarter finals lmao. Is still to this day the most numb feeling I've experienced for a loss in rugby
@@proudkiwi7641 It was one of the more shocking results - I did not expect you guys to get rolled that way. Still, you won the next two world cups :)
What made it even sweeter was that the Aussies weren't "on the plane home tomorrow" as they hadn't booked the flights as they expected to beat those men in white. What a weekend...
Being of Scots extraction, I was lea ning towards Australia and, like almost everyone else outside of England, thought the Wallabies were far too good to get beaten.
At the end, I nodded and thought " Fair do's, England. " That forward display was phenomenal. You can't play attacking rugby with your back line when your forwards are being marched backwards for 80 minutes.
Strangely enough, England being so poor from the start of the tournament probably have them an edge. After USA almost beat them and South Africa slaughtered them, every game for them was in effect a knockout match. Australia, meanwhile, sailed through their group without being remotely tested, so were possibly undercooked for the intensity of a quarter final.
That England side had no right to get anywhere near the final, so for them to do it was a great achievement. Hats off to their never-say-die spirit. They could do with it now!
Have the Scots been in any final, other than there women in Curling.
Absolutely brilliant! The Aussies thought all they had to do was show up!
And get dumped out of another WC by England, it never gets old.
+Patrick Gifford Haha! You're deluded! Maybe about 15 years ago but not these days! UK/ England are far more dominant now.
+Patrick Gifford ODI cricket is crap, real cricket (test cricket) is what it's all about. How many Ashes series have you won in the last 10 years compared to England?Cycling; where to even being. Tour de France, Olympics, World Championships etc... Britain has been FAR more successful than Australia in the last 10 years.You seriously think Australia has enjoyed my success than the UK in Gold? GOLF?? What planet are you on?!I was born and raised in the UK. I'm half Irish and half Italian (hence my user name)
+Patrick Gifford As I said in my in my original post 10- 15 years ago Australia were dominant, however in the last 10 years not only have England/ Britain caught up but we've surpassed you. We have won 5 out of 7 Ashes series, come considerably higher than you in the past 2 Olympics, are far more dominant in Cycling, Boxing, Tennis, Golf etc than Australia. We recently hosted what was widely considered (even by the Aussie press) the best Olympics of all time. When it comes to sport Australia has had it's day. To think otherwise shows how deluded you are. I like you guys too, but seriously, you need to get over this "We're superior in sport" nonsense. It simply isn't true any more.
+Patrick Gifford Erm this comment seems to suggest otherwise: "Australia beat england in every sport but football and tennis"But anyway I'll leave it there. Good luck to you guys! :-)
The wonderful thing about rugby is by sheer emotion and togetherness, you can dig bloody deep and compete against form teams. On the surface , uneducated rugby fans may think this game is bland and boring. It remains one of my favorites despite not being a supporter of either of these two teams...far from it ! Anyone who has played regular rugby will understand what it is to come through a game like this and win and the bond you develop with your team mates.Love it.Thanks for posting...have not seen this for some time.
Same with other sports. I like Rugby as an American but AF trumps it IMO. I just wish foreigners who make fun of AF learn more about it then try to make fun of it.
@@robertweinberg1993 haha, it's boring shite, perfect for mindless idiots
Watching Johnny Wilkinson is always a dream to relive over and over again
I agree. Not at all his best match, though.
What a commentary! I know the Aussies are one eyed but that was something else!
You think that was bad, Try listening to a NZ commentary on an AB game - you get more impartiality and humour from a muslim hate preacher
Arguably the run to the final in 07 was more impressive than the 03 win
The best thing about this win was shutting that Arse Campase up for 10 minutes. Not a great England side but got to the final on sheer guts
Ten minutes? Wow.
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The journey of England 2007 is very much like the journey of France in 2011, 2 mediocre teams who achieved to reach the final... and who delayed the revolution needed in both selections.
Good point. In a way, England's disastrous 2015, and France's disastrous years leading up to 2019 were the catalysts for those countries finally getting proper coaches in.
South Africa are mediocre also and they dont deserve to win any worldcup 😊
Commentator at the end: “The wallabies just looked stunned to be honest”
Yes because they thought they had no chance whatsoever of loosing.
One of my favourite England games of my era (1995-present)
Because it is one of Englands only good performances ?
Sure
@@boloking7717 We didn't have many good performances between 2003 and 2012, it's true.
I was so convinced we'd lose badly after our awful thumping by SA in the Pool game
The England pack was brutal in this match and bullied the Aussies into submission. They just did the basics well and played to their strengths. This match and the one against France in the semi's were some of the most gutsy displays of rugby I've seen from an England team. Written off before the tournament and they were having none of it.
Agreed - this was not a great England side. But we did the basics well, and the boot of Jonny Wilkinson was always reliable. I don't think the team and Brian Ashton got the credit they deserved for this RWC, because before the start of the tournament, we had no business being in the final.
Such a beautiful a sunny day in southern france, Velodrome was such a great stadium then you can see the backdrop outside the stadium.
Anyone else here agree this was the last world cup of real rugby?
I was thinking that before I saw this comment
We pulverised the Aussie scrum that day!!!
Absolutely. In the 2nd half, they looked monstered by our tight 5. In those days, 10-man rugby worked at World Cups, and few teams played it better than England at that time.
England only had an average team in 2007 (though they did get to the final that year and have a try very Controversially disallowed, but anyway they were an average team) Australia should have beaten them, but they showed real strength and determination that day, they were a real credit. Second world cup running that England beat Austraila, after that amazing 2003 team beat them in the final.
I don’t agree. That was a good team. Not a great one, but good. Ashton was trying to get them to play a style of rugby they didn’t really understand. In many ways, Ashton was ahead of his time - he wanted English players to start playing what was ahead of them, rather than to a pattern. It didn’t suit the players, although you can see the seeds of it in this game with them trying to play with width and making off-loads. You’re right though, it was guts that got them to that final.
I was there - a great party then we went off to see the France NZ match in a hysterical bar.
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RIP Dan Vickerman
This was a full-on test match: English forward power against fantastic Aussie backs. As close as it could be. Aussie commentators very good and more than fair, in fact very generous, to England.
This is bleak viewing as an Aussie fan. I remember sitting at home that day and thinking WTF!!! I know people say that this wasn't the strongest England side, but they certainly turned up when it mattered and they pulled our pants down. Shame they didn't end up winning this WC because I thought they deserved to in the end. Also Cueto did score that try in the final. My opinion anywaym
Its how I felt as a Bok supporter in the 2011 quarter final against the Aussies.
Love the cocky pre-game commentary from the Australians; who'd have thought it, eh...?
Thanks for posting this. I remember this so well. I knew we had a big game in us and we delivered.
The commentators totally missed it was Moodie's 50th cap - hence him running on by himself.
Not clued up at all...
Its a first!! Ozzie commentators recognising quality English play...albeit begrudgingly!
I love England Vs Australia. Largely because it's often very close, Especially at world cups. England will knock out Australia in two world cups, Australia tanned the hides of the English in the English world cup and now England have a team which look like they will threaten Australia in their own backyards. A little after this game Wilkinson and Gitau were playing for a magnificent Toulon team.
Agree, its great sporting occasion. Despite all the media hype etc, they fear and respect each other, apart from David Campese i guess.
Remember the day this happened. I was in a clothing store in Brisbane, we were huge underdogs. I said to the Aussies working in the store that we'd twat them, they said ''we'll think of ya when England lose.'' Never saw them again, but they'll remember me ahha.
grundu Rugby is a type of football. The commentator was right to call it a "brand of football". Just saying.
Whenever Im feeling low I load up this game and laugh at Australians
Campese: 'England are clueless'
Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was personally most painful loss I've felt, supporting the Wallabies. It was like being hexed. It was the end of a golden generation that has never come close to being recaptured. It was typical of so many Eng vs Aus matches dating back to 2000. Australia would have the Better Backs, England would have the Better Forwards. Australia would habitually score more tries than England yet England would kick themselves to victory via Johnny's boot. Wilkinson didn't even kick that well this game, but again typical of Australia, they kicked worse.
I was so nervous watching that
Poor old Brian Ashton left to tidy Andy Robinson's despicable miss. John Wells doesn't get enough credit (the forward coach) as England basically got to the finals by winning scrum penalties. Back line was made up of old players and two inexperienced ones
FlyingG Sports - yep 👍 was tryna think of his name (Brian Ashton) until I read your comments....
I remember the English media criticising the appointment!! Like, what the fuck were we supposed to do in the middle of a World Cup tournament? Morons and still are ! We did well but unlike 2003 we were fundamentally a poor team. Took balls and guts during adversity to get to the final that year.
At 1:19:40, why did the referee say Australia made illegal move? The ball had clearly left the scrum. The announcers were silent on the critical call.
Because he isn't bound before the ball comes out. The law says the flanker must have a full arm bind on the scrum until the ball is out. Elsom was holding on with his hand. Obvious penalty.
I understand now. Thanks!
No problem! :D
Always great to beat the Aussies, in rugby and the Ashes, never really been a big football rivalry.
Reason Aussie scrum is crap is that the commentators are in denial.
I'd forgotten how bloody pointless most scrums were at this time
How fantastically one eyed is the commentary
The commentators say "the English" .they should say England.
I'm pretty sure the first thing my soon-to-be-born daughter ever heard was me screaming at this match.
Nick Easter was a monster.
I'm an England fan, but I didn't think the Aussie commentators were that bad - just listen to NZ commentators in any AB game if you want to hear what one-eyed, miserable humourless commentating sounds like!
I think I agree, there are a few lazy comments but in general they're pretty fair. Australia are much less unbearable when it comes to rugby than either New Zealand or South Africa.
robicenco1
Rentaghost okish are you sure these commentators are aussies?
Matthew Zunder They are indeed Australian. Even in this era, Australia had 2 x Rugby test broadcasters (Fox, and which ever FTA network it was at the time). The main commentator here was a Channel 10 ring in using the syndicated footage, I believe. The best Australian Rugby commentator hands down is Gordon Bray - but at the time he had a deal with the wrong network...
MGoose66 thanks
"The English playing a brand of football..." - What the heck has that commentator been smoking?...
Football meaning rugby football.
stirling mortlock has proved he's the worst goalkicker
When Wilkinson raised the goal kicking bar of International Rugby, all top tier nations responded except for Australia. The Wallabies haven't had a decent kicker since Michael Lynagh. We're still stuck with Bernard Foley and he kicks at around 70%. It's cost Australia many matches over the last 20+ years.
Ah, the bra jerseys. England's red sash/swoosh looked pretty awful too, tbh. Couldn't believe we won this, and the win against France was even better. Did Brian Ashton actually do anything? I always got the feeling the players managed themselves during his tenure - he didn't really seem to know what was going on.
Best kit I can remember England having. White and red socks as well which is good. God only knows why our socks are blue, it makes no sense
@@danielvenn2811 I think historically England generally wore black socks - the blue socks are an approximation of that, but I agree that blue looks all kinds of wrong.
Black socks make sense from a mens' tailoring perspective. The rule of thumb for men is that socks and shoes should be approximately, the same colour. Until a few years ago rugby boots were of course exclusively black, so black socks went well with them. I should stress that I don't know for a fact that this is why England wore/wear black socks, but it's my working theory. Black boots and white socks doesn't look great.
@@robicenco1 you learn something new every day 😅 that’s an interesting and probably a very correct take on it. It all now makes some more sense why it was like that historically. But yea I reckon white nowadays would be the one!
@@danielvenn2811 If you're wearing white boots, white socks and and all-white kit is definitely the business (at the start of the game at least - by the end of most test matches England's players are wearing mostly brown + whatever colour the advertisements are painted on the pitch with).
I think England only wore white historically because it was the only "colour" you could boil wash to get the mud out. So while it feels like our sacred kit, the real reason is kind of prosaic.
Wallabies played very well n deserved to win except that Mortlock had a horrible kicking penalty day..
Really
Is this same stadium where England football team bt Tunisia at France 98?
Yes
Wilkinson missed so many kicks. Lucky to win.
Shows he is human after all 👍
I remember hearing that he (and other place-kickers) found that 2007 ball really difficult to hit accurately as it was significantly lighter, causing it to move around in the air significantly.
Yeah even Carter the struggling. The one who coped well though was Montgomery
If your team kicks poorly in a match vs Australia. You can rest assure knowing that Australia will kick worse.
comming soon india vs pakistan regbuy match
Knocking Australia out of the World Cup is better than actually winning it.
Beating Australia in any sporting event is everything
Can the crowd think of something else to sing other than Swing Low Sweet Chariot??? How about "We Are the Champions."
This was a pretty crap England team but man did they have heart, France in 2011 were in the boat and just lost by 1 point whereas everyone was saying the All Blacks were gonna thrash them.
Wasn't a crap team there was a big divide between the management and the players. It was a coup of sorts.
great game !
There's nothing more biased than an Aussie commentator 😂 Jesus wept, they're tough to listen to!
Absolutely disgusting refereeing
spasibo ogromnoe
Were Australia supposed to win? Yes they were. The great English. We are the best ever.
2 équipes avec un niveau sensiblement plus faible qu'en 2003
Vrai, Certes, tout le meilleur que l'Angleterre a atteint la finale , mais on a trouvé dépourvu par les saffas , battre le français bien. Swings and Roundabouts.
lol giteau will have to wait another four years........
Atrocious reff'ing!
'the English'
Who's had the better success in RWCs
1987 - Australia
1991 - Australia -Champions
1995 - England
1999 - Australia - Champions
2003 - England - Champions
2007 - England
2011 - Australia
2015 - Australia
2019 - England
Well if you look at what you posted you would see it was Australia.
silly colonials
Silly boy
When Englands scrum man shamed the Aussies. The commentators are a joke
It's the only time I cheer for another team when the wallobs get beaten aye fatboy like gregan would say 4 more years haha
These commentators are terrible. Throwing punches in the scrum fine, doing a high charge not even attempting to use the arms fine. Do these pillocks even understand the game?
they're Aussie's what do you expect?
Poms the best scrum in the World, same scrum that got man shamed 36-0 by Boks?
ROFL 😆😆😆
The notoriously anti English unpleasant refereeing hybrid Irish/ Frenchman Rolland giving repeated unexplained penalties to Oz throughout the game.