"An absolute DISASTER from day one!" | Analysing Ralf Rangnick's time at Man Utd & Ten Hag's arrival
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The fact so many pundits say Ralf Rangnick is the worst thing to happen to Manchester United just show how little they understand about our club.
38% win rate
Another deluded United Fan channel he done nothing well. Came into to steady the ship and get top 4 which he failed both. All he got praised for was his stupid interview where all the stupid mancs are like omg he’s exposing the board. Get a grip he’s been a shocking manager.
Remember when United fans were hyping him as the “Mentor of Klopp and Tuchel”
@@dominik.1138 thats not really his fault though. He's clearly no leader, he gained no respect from the dressing room. But what about these players taking a little responsibility for there efforts? It's easy to point to the manager and blame him but this group of players have been managed by a number of coaches and the result is always the same.
It shows how little you know about the game. He’s the worst manager in the league.
As a united fan, I’m glad that Ralf came in and spoke so openly about the underlying issues, the season was already over in December
Facts
How many times are utd fans gonna move the goalposts? you all said you were getting klopps teacher and were guaranteed top 4 with ragnick..you ended up 11 points behind arsenal and needing brighton to save you from conference league 😂
Ye were in pole position to get into top 4 in December and he made ye nearly end up in conference league 😭
@@TheChampIsHere_ Well if you took the time to read what he said you would’ve made sense with what he meant ..
keywords in case your brain small (Spoke about Underlying issues openly ) we had very high expectations for our club ofc but ralf came in and made it clear that their are other problems as to why this club isn’t progressing.. and that is because this club isn’t being run well at all.
Forget about buying players , they still need to restructure, refurbish and upgrade the stadium 😅 they behind in that aswell , it’s like people forgot they actually have a club to look after
@@TheChampIsHere_ hard to get top 4 when he wasn’t allowed to bring anyone in to work in his system and inherited a team who half of them are leaving in the summer anyway and don’t want to be there
It fills my heart with joy seeing that real fans understand Ralf was the best thing that happened to United in a long time. He brought the mess behind the scenes for everyone to see. Thank you Ralf❤️
...and left the club in an even bigger mess...outside top 4 on their worst points tally ever
@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 I don't even support united but wow you are a Leicester fan mate
@@CocoKobiee 😁👍🏼
@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 he is here to rebuild not manage
@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 nice season
Criticism from mediocre pundits and ex players (excluding Merson). It’s been clear since Jose the players think they can do what they want.
The standard has definitely dropped at Sky!
And they are! Still he was a part of the rot, signing old guys who were gassed after an hour. Hopefully ten Hag gets out of this with his career still in tact…
@@GIBBO4182 Cant drop what was never there.
Criticism.
From mediocre pundits.
ABOUT MEDIOCRE PLAYERS BUDDY
If that were true man u wouldn't of finished 2nd under Ole...
Absolute insanity from those expecting RR to fix a 10 year problem in 6 months. There's nothing the manager can do if the players don't listen.
Antonio Antonio lol
More like the are players unhappy mate..the whole football club is run badly run and started effected on the staff and the players
@@drevil3606 Would have gone the same way as it did under Jose. Maybe short term success but then he'd be off .
@@ksw6513 Exactly right, something happened just a few weeks after Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho arrived, the trouble in the dressing room overflowed onto the pitch, and that was the end of the season, except we didn't realise that then! something definitely turned sour and the performances went downhill after that, changing manager made no difference whatsoever, if anything it got worse as the results have shown and the dismal points tally (The lowest in PL history for a Utd manager) reflect that clearly !
The problem here is that an interim manager like Ralf has no real power, he cannot sell players, was not allowed to by players and the very fact he is temporarily means that the trouble maker in the dressing room feel they can get away with anything.
He’s uncovered the behind the scenes of the club for all to see. As united fans we had to go through this poor run with Ralf to gain long term success, Ralf was part of step 1 of making United great again.
So you've already assumed success. This is that problem, see how things develop, get the ground work done then aim for success.
Shut up Arab
I hate to break it to you but everyone knew this was a problem and having been saying it for years, you assuming utd will be great again is a big ask considering the fact its not just the team of prats that's the issue.
Poor run with Ralf? Been a poor run on/off since 2014 son
...but every1 knew what the problems were at united...Pogba
Thank you ragnick for exsposing the mess in our club and being part of the change. The football hasn't been great but most fans know the bigger picture you have been apart of.
Thank you Rangnick for giving us the lowest points tally in PL history for Utd, and a bigger thank you for giving us the lowest win ratio for 51 years, and a very special thank you for finishing 6th keeping us out of the CL, great job mate... now phuk off.
Lololol right it's not like it's was clear as daylight before saviour Ralf came along. Hilarious comment bro thanks for the laugh 😂🤣🤣🤣
well said!
@@HERETOHELPPEOPLE729 enjoy your laugh on your own and part of your comment is right we knew the clubs been a mess, but Ralph as uncovered more of the mess things also like the mess in the dressing room which our previous manager would have covered up
@@kbeee3270 All top managers would do the same dopey, SAF, Klopp, Pep solve problems behind the scenes, they don't go crying to the press shouting these players won't listen to me , an absolute cop-out of an excuse ! These problems were exposed before RR took over by the press from rumours coming out of the dressing room, it's nothing new then, any decent manager knows how to handle those situations, and the answer is NOT to go running to the press with your tail between your legs !
not rangnicks fault at all. a group of players that didnt care to begin with, working under a strict manager who wont be there in 6 months, with nothing to play for. it was always gonna end one way.
Also, how many players did he bring in and how many did he lose?
There’s a group of players that have completely downed tools at Man Utd…they just don’t want to be there
Nonsense, another brainwashed fool that's clearly been watching those Utd RUclips channels, try thinking for yourself mate, you sound a like a zombie repeating crap you've been fed from Mark and Sam, any manager worth his salt doesn't blame the players in public for his own inadequacies, Pep, Klopp and SAF would never do that, they sort out problem players by dealing with behind the scenes, they will be dropped and eventually moved on, all top managers do it that way, not come out crying in the media saying they are lazy etc, how would you react to a manger that said that about you ? that is why top managers do things behind the scenes.
You just gave a example of how many bad decisions are made by the board,and now that board just made the biggest managerial gamble so far,wonder how its going to work out
@@thrilla72 they didn’t let him buy or sell??
Bringing Ralf Rangnick as an interim manager was the best decision we’ve made since Fergie left….it meant we were FINALLY taking the time in employing a new manager, now we’ve got Ten Hag. In Rangnick we FINALLY had someone openly telling everyone that a full rebuild is needed, he is also a recruitment expert and we now finally have a recruitment expert working as a consultant. It’s no coincidence that both our failing chief scouts have also left too
I get the impression that Rangnick was brought in precisely because the management board knew it would weed out all the deadwood. They knew that uncommitted players wouldn't play for an interim manager, so it was a great appointment having Rangnick in - now we know who the deadwood is.
Ronaldo might be old, but he was one of the few players who were still committed to the cause, along with de Gea and Fernandes (although his form has dropped off a cliff).
And it will all crumble and you start hyping the next man linked to the job😆 like you have been doing in the past 10 years
He told it like it was because he had nothing to lose…he didn’t try to sugar coat anything or protect under performing players. Blessing in disguise for Man Utd
Could have Conte, Bentacur & Kulusevski by now if we didn’t employ Ralf
...and he got paid a fair bit of whack to say the club is in a mess, i could've done that 4 a fraction of the price
So odd how there seems to be a concerted effort by most media outlets to shift the focus away from the players and back onto the Ragnick
They think we fans are headless chicken.
Well, every other manager b4 him got blamed, and the ultimate Apprentice 'punchline'...you're...u know, so why not blame R² the small club fraud that doesn't know his place at the biggest club i.t.w
That's the media for you, absolutely anything for a story. Thankfully, a growing number of people are beginning to see this.
The Glazers are paying off sky sports to bury Ragnick
@@scoobydoo3159 Well you are in a way.
The players have made it a disaster, not Ragnick
If you can't see he is absolutely useless and not qualified to coach an elite club then you are dumber than a retard...
Exactly
Ragnick also has to take the blame partly. We can't say it's Jose's fault. It's ole's fault and ragnick just can't do any wrong despite the fact he has the worst win ratio since before Ferguson. It's not mainly his fault but a manager just can't escape any criticism
Rangnick played Maguire, rashford and mctominay even after many performances he deserves some blame too
@@aganbraganca4156 nope, he wasnt backed in january, so many injuries, players morale being down. yes ralf is to be blamed partly but majority of the blame should be taken by the players who have been throwing the manager under the bus since the jose days.
Just shows how little pundits know about anything really. He’s been the best thing happen the club post Fergie. Forget results he wasn’t appointed to get results, he’s known for building two clubs from absolutely nothing into European contenders. He’s gone in there and torn the club apart and not cared about what the owners think. Now Woodward gone, head of recruitments gone most of the back room staff are gone he’s got rid of a lot waster players and called out a lot of wasters players. He’s set the foundations in place perfectly for Ten Hag. No wonder no one listens to this show anymore a bunch of nobody’s who know very little about football!
Cant wait for us to lose a pre-season friendly or two and see headlines 'Ten Hag the right man for the job??'
Agree with you mate
@@GTF85 United will get the last laugh!
@Off The Rails RB Lepzeig got to a semi final despite being formed 10 years ago Rangnick built that club, United fans know how good of a job Rangnicks done. No manager has had the balls to address the deep issues at the club they’ve been papering over cracks, Rangnick has completely ripped everything up and is laying solid foundation
@Off The Rails also just cause you’re good at football doesn’t mean you have a brain cell, in fact most don’t
His main job this season was not to achieve anything other than to determine which players deserve to stay and which players deserve to go.
His job was then to pass that information to the new incoming Coach.
If that is all he has achieved this season it is a success.
The press don't want to talk about the likes of Rashford, Lingard, Shaw, Wan Bissake, Maguire ect, and just how absolutely Rubbish they have been this year. Its easier to blame it on the foreigner manager who's main job for coming in was as a consultant lol.
You are such a melt Andrew he was brought in for stability and to get top 4 he failed. Everyone was saying he’s the new Klopp. He’s been embarrassing he’s made them worse and made ten hags job even harder
@@ZebraKatzWhereItsAt fact is he has made ole look good, who most Utd fans wanted out
@@charliehabbick7122 He wasn't there to be a manager but an advisor to the future manager
The new coach will make that decision.
Absolute nonsense! His a temporary manager who has not been able to make long-term decisions at the Club. The issues today stem from Ole reign. Ralph has provided the club clarity on their internal issues, as such provided us the platform to succeed.
almost right, but they stem from the end of fergie's reign
Yep, these guys are talking nonsense.
Ralf has done an incredible job imo.
He came in to a club in disarray, with a squad full of complete bluffers, half of whom were just counting down the days until their contracts expired. He identified players and staff who needed to be shown the door and shone a light on the nonsense going on in the squad that other managers have tried to protect.
I think finally, for the first time since Fergie left, we're in a position to properly rebuild. All we've done is paper over cracks since then. Now we can finally clear out all the bluffers and build a proper squad around a manager with a plan.
Mourinho could have done it but he was hamstrung by the board and given players he didn't want and refused players he actually needed. In hindsight he actually did a great job.
Finally now we can look to the future instead of buying short term fixers like Zlatan, Ronaldo and Cavani. Don't get me wrong, i love Ronaldo, but it doesnt scream long term planning for success.
Poisonous players like Pogba and Martial will be shown the door, all be it 4 years too late. Clapped out old timers filling up their pension funds will be gone.
No more garbage like AWB.
Can only hope that somehow Maguire goes away with them.
Its gonna take a few years but the slate is about to get wiped clean so we can finally put something real together.
Every side Ralf has managed ever has played high pressing football, Utd are the only one that hasn’t. We done it for 30 mins and the players just gave up. The coaching was fine, the players weren’t
Ralph inherited a fractured club from ole and was here for 6 months. He wasn't allowed to make any signings in the January window. How can anyone in their right mind conclude that it's Ralph's fault.
I mean every side Ralf managed except Manchester United played great high pressing attractive football and every manager, world class or club legend, that come to United post Fergie has failed. Put 2 and 2 together and anyone who's not dead can figure out that it's the players
It doesn't matter who your manager is if your players are overpaid, lazy, entitled bottle jobs with massive egos.
Same was the issue with spurs under nuno, stop making excuses
@@jjc1752 Conte got 4 new players in January though. Rangnick wanted a striker and CDM and he got neither.
There are always one or two managers that get it right
Now it’s Pep and Klopp
Before it was Fergie and Wenger
Top managers find a way and success is a big factor
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@Abdul Raheem excuses Sir ?
Think he done a fantastic job of highlighting areas that needed to be fixed. He’s got my respect.
Ralph just came in and opened the curtains so everyone can see what's going on inside. Most united fans are thankful for him and the job he has done. It took someone who wasn't worried about the owners or the players and he was definitely the man.
But failed terribly strategy wise. We needed to press. Not a board of director understanding.
@@deekay_21 Have you pressed in the last 2 yrs?
Good for media but not the club, result says it all, 6th
@@deekay_21 he had a system, if you saw his first game where the players actually listened then you see how they pressed palace, but the players won't listen and they get the worst season
It was actually a complete success. He exposed how poorly run the club was and publicly called out the dressing room and how poor the players are and what a bad job Ole done putting the squad together.
He did an even worse job than Ole, and i could've told united the club is in a mess 4 a fraction of the price, i mean where is his status quo report, and most importantly, where's his recommendations...besides drivel like the club needs open heart surgery
and his coaching skills and communication skills are horrible
@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 Ole gave way for the rot to spread, he gave the players the power
@@stevaughan3374 agree, everything was Fan tastik 😁
I mean, thats all well and good exposing 'problems', but his job was to WIN matches, and GAIN points... he has to get the best out of the players, thats his job as a temporary coach. Obviously it wasnt his fault he inherited an egotistical squad, but thats not the point is it?
These pundits are insane! How are they blaming rangnick
Maybe because he is to blame for the mess.. it’s not all the player’s fault.
Things have got worse since he got there…
@@MrPmwas 💯, part of the team, part of the problem, collective responsibility
@@GIBBO4182 💯
@@MrPmwas name a player he bought?.. you cant... rangnick was responsible for the alleged rapist greenwood?.. wrong again... woodward and drudge?.. spent over 1 billion pounds and have a back line that are mid table at best and the worst midfileld in the PL.. not rangnick again.... I am not a fan of his and didnt know the guy before, but the pundits are unemployed footballers and others... not an ounce of class or intelligence btw them
Media need to understand that as much as you want to blame rangnick, the fans know the problems were the fans and the board and rangnick wasn’t backed by the board.
Absolutely
Wasn’t backed by the squad he had either nothing he could’ve done. This group of players needed this humbling because some of them really think they’ve made it in football with 0 trophies
This media take is pathetic.
Mainly the players are to blame, plus everyone who sat by and let a toxic culture take over the club.
The board were never going to give him money to spend when he was only ever temporary…the fact is results didn’t improve under him
Just for context, Ralf came midway into a season where players looked lost and uninterested on the pitch under Ole. Many of them were also unsettled. Also, if you compare United to Tottenham who were also challenging for top 4 under a new manager, Conte got backed with Kulusevski and Bentancur whereas United didn't even want to spend 5mil on Zakaria. And lastly, right before the transfer deadline after loaning out Martial and Diallo, he lost a key player in Greenwood. Just imagine if Arsenal suddenly lost Saka for example, they wouldn't even be challenging for top 4.
this.
Greenwood to united is not the same as saka to arsenal, saka is way more important. United were dead even with greenwood
@@aleh3841 can't be anymore wrong. After he stopped playing the team never looked the same. you're forgetting he was a regular starter, it's like when Ronaldo doesn't play but Ronaldo has a way bigger impact
@@Xxmodernkilla12xX don't use Ronaldo and greenwood in the same sentence my guy that's a disrespect
@@Xxmodernkilla12xX its not like United were 1st place when he got arrested they were in a similar position
Bring in Pep into the same situation as Ralf did and you would have had the same outcome. These media guys are clueless to the situation at Utd.
Wrong pep wouldnt have stood for there crap
@@Sb-do6xc rangnick literally called them out theyre just selfish and lazy and the board wouldnt let him do anything until ten hag comes
No...pep is 10 times a better manager than Ralf
@@eleaevan6416 doesn’t matter, if you have no power and players don’t listen then what’s the point in even having a manager? If Pep wanted he could boot out KDB in January, yet Ralf can’t do the same with someone like Rashford
@@Sb-do6xc the premise is that Pep would have power, but Rangnick was interim manager and given absolutely zero power, he wasn't even allowed to sell Lingard away in Jan, nor given even 5million to buy a DM in Jan! I bet he wasn't even allowed to drop Maguire, Mctominay n Rashford for the initial 2-3 months and could afford to in Mar,Apr only cos of their consistent terrible form. Players spoiled by Ole n his team also knew he was an interim and wouldn't listen to him. How often did you hear Rangnick complain that players don't do what they were told
Ralf has been a breath of fresh air from day one. An honest manager who informs the fan base of the truth.
Worse record than ole 😂
@@kurtisgotyaditgits remember when they got Ralf and everyone was saying how he taught klopp and tuchel everything they know 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Sb-do6xc back to bed lad
@@kurtisgotyaditgits because he didn’t suck Rashy off every presser
@@kurtisgotyaditgits what do you expect he's been told to essentially build a house without the tools. That's the best way to put the united job stop blaming the manger.
I had huge respect for rashford and other players but they did during this season is no where near professionalism they should get of the club doesn't matter how good you are or how much value you have in the club if u dont respect the manager and fans you should pack your bags
Ragnick is the reason we're all looking forward to the future now, if we never got him in for 6 month we would just be starting the same roulette wheel again with a new manager and no forward thinking intelligent goals...
In my opinion he is better than ole and got some pretty nice results but his system is difficult to adapt to I think and he needs more time also 6 months isn't enough
Spurs proved you wrong, they don't have an interim, stand at 4th above us
Are they actually being serious about ragnick being worse than ole. It was no different. The players gave up on both managers. The only difference is that those were Ole's players, not Ragnicks. He chose them and they threw him under the bus.
Ragnick was better
@Off The Rails if you look at this season Ole and Rangnick's record are same. Last season Ole was better so yes he looks better if you add that up but last season Maguire, Rashford, Luke Shaw all were good, Greenwood was not arrested etc.
@Off The Rails before the Athletico match, united under Ralf had most points per game bar Liverpool. United during Crystal palace game broke the record for most kilometres ran and most pressing stats post Fergie. At the beginning we were playing well. Even in games we drew, we completely dominated. Like the game against Watford we have 22 shots, 65% possession but game ended 0-0. Every team Ralf has gone to has played high pressing attacking football except Manchester United. So either all those other 6/7 teams he coached were simply flukes, or there's something wrong at Manchester United. When you combine that with fact that previous united coaches have also complained about stiff backroom and lack of work ethic among players, it's not hard to see who or where the problem lies. If we're still playing the blame the manager game then there's nothing to be done. Just keep changing managers until we get relegated I guess
@Off The Rails in his defence, the players were conuddled Nd cuddled by ole for 2-3 seasons that no matter what Rangnick did they failed to respond, so he had to go back to Oles football methods and see out the Season; if he was allowed to get in some players in Jan maybe he could have tried his system. But our players physical conditioning was so bad that he gave up attacking football after the 1st half vs Palace altogether 😂
Since Ralfs arrival we have had so many major changes, I am glad he has exposed the club!
i absolutely hate when people blame it all on the manager, rangnick knew what he wanted to do, told the players what he wanted from them and told the board what players he wanted and neither the board or the players delivered. Horrible analysis. Literally i could get on this show and provide an analysis in more detail and depth than these casuals
The way I see it was Ralf was brought in just to keep the lights on until they could get in a proper replacement. The players didn't want to work hard for Ralf, they downed tools and just played from game to game and not caring about getting any result. Keane has been saying for ages these players don't run hard enough and have no desire.
Bro he was literally just a caretaker manager he was never supposed to be a permanent solution as you said he was just a temp till they could find a permanent manager you literally cannot blame him for how this season went because of how crap the team is
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 he did his job
Pity Keane hadn't got the job because a lot of them would have been gone by now. That is a bloke who would take no messing.
The players are complete tools and they are all doing one. Rashford acting like a child calling Rangnick specs they all attempted to bully him. Holding meetings with him to change the tactics because they couldn’t do what he wanted. The lot of em need to go
Yea get them all out! Not good enough…
Not good enough
Very clear Ralph did not have the authority's to remove or bring in players and was underminded due to his interim status. However people forget Ralph got us into the top 4 before January and requested players to help push on, to which the board rightfully or wrongfully declined.
True. These pundits get paid for nothing!
I don’t understand how people blame him more then Ole who’s started this whole disaster
Because they are trying to protect all the english players who were absolutely terrible this season... they will blame anyone they can first.
@@sonsofthetribe who signed Maguire
Mourinho signed Pogba. Ole got a second place, a 9-0 and a European final. Ralf got us 26 points in 41 league games and nothing to cheer about at all.
@@Kinitawowi ur a clown only one word to describe you
Stick to cricket pal 👍🏼
Haller is one of the top scorers in the champions league and ajax with ten hag have done great job in champions league past seasons. These guys haven't got a clue.
How is Merson getting paid for this, he’s embarrassing
Ajax had the easiest group stage by far though. Most of his goals came against a Dortmund mid injury crisis, a sporting Lisbon whose never been good in Europe & Turkish team who wouldn't make mid table in the championship.
Fulham could have topped that champions League table given the circumstances.
Hasn’t he already failed in the Premiership?
Ralf was good at leipzig and look what he did with united. it seems like nobody can be a good coach at man united
These players downed tools like they did for all the other managers. Ragnick was thwarted, couldn't get the coaches he wanted or any signings. To top that off he had a bunch of players who were all coming to the end of their contracts.
Ragnick forced the glazers hands to look for football men to run the club, all in all he will be shown to be more popular by the fans than he will ever be the villain.
haha. your club is a joke. must be painful for you lot, but you deserve it all after the arrogance of the 15 years prior to the downfall
They never downed tools,they are bang average players and cannot play above their level
@@walata11 Like ETH said they finished 2nd a year ago, I think the truth is somewhere in between as they can do it when they want to.
I personally thank Ralph at every opportunity like this. He has exposed the problems at united and without him wouldnt be moving in the right direction.
And I am so proud to see alot of these comments here who really know the score
club didn’t allow him to bring his coaching staff. carrick and mckenna left. if you know football you know ralf (a DOF) wasn’t gonna succeed without coaching staff
And you absolutely don’t know football
Ralph Rangnick is the best thing to happen to Man United in recent times.
Rangnick is known to be a DOF and rebuilds clubs by working with the board, he’s come in for what he needs to do
Solskjaer’s tenure was to appease the players to get the best out of them. This strategy left them massively entitled.
Bailly complaining to the press that he should be started over certain players. Lingard complaining through Scholes and his brother about how he feels he has been treated unfairly. Journalists are also hinting at others showing a complete lack of respect to the manager.
Rangnick was probably not the best interim coach Man Utd could have got but the main reason for the embarrassment and failure is on the players.
If bringing Ralph in as interim meant that was the only way to get Erik Ten Hag and he turns out to be the right manager it will be anything but a disaster.
He tried to get rid and ad to the team they said no . Lol impossible job
Ralf and Ronaldo is the best that has happened to united blessing in disguise....look at d swift turnaround happening ... Ronaldo once said u AV to destroy to rebuild so united is in that process
Ronaldo made u worse
@@gauravramdayal3359 our highest goal scorer made us worst single handed won us games and u saying made us worst make that make sense mate if u just wanna be an ass pls my time is not for you but if u make that make sense am interested to see ur view on tht
@@gauravramdayal3359 no he didn't
Ralf was never the problem. He took over a group of players who gave nothing, not bothered, didnt care, no fight. Credit de gea and ronaldo and sancho who got better under ralf and even fred. Yes even fred. The rest words cant even describe. Cavani didnt even get to play but anytime he did he gave his all.
The United board made Ragnick *interim* manager and has pretty much made it clear he has no say over which players come and go.
This means he has no authority whatsoever.
And the dressing room was a disaster before he came in.
How anyone can blame Ragnick for how this season went blows my mind.
Players most especially the board building man united core on average English play that's why d club has been disaster
I really hope ten hag can change something
GLWT
Only if 10 players leave like Rangnick said
His record against English clubs is shocking, 1 win in 6 games
The fact that they say that tadic is the best player by miles in the Eredivisie means they do not have any knowledge about that league
i mean, in general, i agree…but when merson talked about the quality of the eredivisie, he obviously forgot what ajax did in the champions league over the last couple of seasons…they played unbelievable football with tadic being one, if not the best player for them and haller was literally topscorer of the group stages this year…
There teams get nowhere in European competitions in general though
Van Nistelrooy came from the Dutch league
It’s just how you see football I guess 😂
Pundits!!! 😢
@@GIBBO4182 Feyenoord is in the conference league final. Y’know, that competition Tottenham and Leicester got knocked out of.
@@GIBBO4182 2017 EL final
2019 CL semi final.
Nowhere indeed
@@DaderEen 5 years ago! Really? So 2 in the last 5 years and you think that proves me WRONG 😂😂😂
I genuinely don't know how the media can blame Rangnick for his short tenure as UTD's manager.
How many managers need to fail before they realise what we all know... It's the self entitled, spoilt players.
He did what he could & exposed it all.
26 league games is a lot more than some managers get before they're sacked.
@@Kinitawowi can't argue there.
This men still can't see through what the disaster come from.
Ralph has done a great job, he has exposed the spoilt, selfish players at united and also opened the eyes of the fans more by being so honest n truthful in his press conferences.
As a united fan I can't wait for this team to get ripped apart n the quicker the better!!
Manchester United's fans in this and other comment sections, clearly show how far they've dropped and are deluded. I'm a Liverpool fan and it reeks of exactly the same position we were in under the times of Roy Hodgson etc...
You expect every new thing to be the ONE thing that changes you around and makes everything better... a new player, a new manager, new owners. It isn't that simple, if it was you'd probably have found the solution by now.
Nothing is owed to your club and you need to stop expecting instant success to be right around the corner again. We got lucky when we got Klopp, any club he would of went to would have turned out the same as Liverpool right now.
You can't emulate what happened to us just because you want it to happen. You're either lucky in who you get - or you're not.
Stop wishing for instant fixes to what is a cataclysmic problem you have at Utd.
Bit harsh to say its a disaster from day one, Ten Hag has only been there a day
It's about fraudnick dumbass
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english media makes me sick .. ole is the root of all the problems we hv this season .. ralf exposed them now ten hag will fix the problems
Ralf is the best thing that’s happened to this club since SAF
Ralph was the best thing to happen to United pointing out all the problems in the team to players not turning up, scouting things going on behind the scenes and has most certainly lined things up for ten hag, leave the poor bloke alone
"They should've kept trust in Ole.. The team could've ended the season much better"
- Gary Neville
Let's not forget some of the results in ole's last 5 league games
Leicester 4-2
Liverpool 4-0
Man city 2-0
Watford 4-1
well technically united will improve now it's better they sacked him
haha. yeah what a clown nevilla was there, too. love it
Keep ole? The players downed tools on him do you not remember. Also do you think the club would be changing in the way it is now if ragnick wasn't apart of it.look at the bigger picture and not just the football on the field. The club was rotten all the way through. And ragnick let that be known to the fans. And since then it seems change in the right directions is finally starting to happen
Getting rid of Pogba will help imo…there’s a few others that have been coasting for years that need to go!
Why scapegoat pogba? What’s he done so wrong
@@joeh1189 because Jogba is symbolic of the player power issue at Utd. The board and fans backed him over Jose and that started the culture of players getting away with it.
What on earth has Pogba got to do with 25 players at Utd.
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That is pure nonsense. Pogba has not played in the last 5 games so clearly he is not at fault more than anybody else.
It does not matter if Pogba or Maguire does not play the team is not functioning. What are you views on Bruno?
@@bighands69 he’s symptomatic of the problems at Man Utd! He is what’s wrong with the club all in one player! And I did say “a few others” I’m not just blaming him…read properly
Rangnick is a man who knows football. He’s not necessarily a manager, but he knows his onions. Man Utd need a clear out from top to bottom and to give Ten Haag A LOT of time to sort this out.
It's great to see that not one united fan agrees with any of these so called pundits rangnick showed us that these players are spineless and don't want to play for the club or fans nothing but love for rangnick for showing us the light
Ralf Ragnick wanted the players (professional footballers mind you) to run more and they just said nope. The players never gave him any respect and you can tell from his press conferences towards the end that he had already given up. His term was more an indictment on the ManUtd players than it was on his managerial capabilities
His man management caused him, before the atleti game at OT we were doing fine, 4th and 3 points above spurs. For some reason he laughed off a question in a press conference for the atleti game about utd challenging big teams in the knockouts. He deemed the squad not good enough. Hence players probably downed tools.
No the issue is those team of prats you clause players that have egos bigger than earth thinking they can do whatever and don't even get me started on how your run your probably the worst manged club in the top flight. Stop making excuses for united the manger isn't the problem that's been clear for years now.
@@Odex1x if the players want to be friends with the manager, you have to adapt with them for Man Utd’s sake and move them on next season. You cant just write off the season to please the fans
Ralf R is the best thing that happened to this club, he exposed everything that was wrong with our beloved club
I agree with the sentiment that it's the manager's job to sort out the dressing room and ship out players that are toxic. However, I do believe that it's been this club's policy for many years now that the manager doesn't make those decisions - those decisions are being made at board level.
It's so clear that the board have been signing and firing players (or letting contracts run down, rather than firing) instead of the manager. Mourinho had a right go at Pogba and Martial in the press. He wanted rid of them but the board overruled him so the only thing he could do was go public with it.
As a rival fan. Ralf wasn't there to get results it was to expose how poor united have been run. Players over paid and players not giving 100%. I'm glad he called out rashford hopefully under ten hag he can start being focused on his football as he's regressed these past few years.
Who even takes these people seriously? Michael Dawson saying Rangnick has been a shambles when if they did a little bit of research its clear that the players had given up and the dressing room is full of over inflated ego's. Only two players that come out of this season with there heads held high are De Gea and Ronaldo.
Fast forward today.. and you see these pundits really didn't know what they were saying.. Ragnick, like Mourinho, was right.
The expert pundit giving expert analysis after we already know the result. Bravo! Maybe should give your expert assessment on Day 1 when United signs Ralf.
It's not the manager fault what's happening in Manchester United it's the players downing tools and I am not picked in the starting 11 so I can't be asked FC.
Ragnick inherited an awful team from Ole, it's not on Ragnick
It must be cracking inside for some people to know even with these pundit views, united fans still want Rangnick to be part of the rebuild
That should tell you we the fans have eyes and know the good He has done us.
Are united fans living in an opposite reality? They hounded JM and LVG out the door after winning trophies. Yet all I see is thanks and applause for rangnick, after having their worst ever season and finishing on 0 goal difference. Crazy
Rangnick the worst appointment for a coach of an elite club ever, and before anyone starts the players are beneath contempt too..
They weren't his players. He had no backing whatsoever.
@@waggishwonderland Remind me which players Tuchel signed when he went to Chelsea and won the champs league after Lampard got sacked? Oh that's right ZERO...Saying they are not his players is a feeble excuse good coaches get the best out of what is available to them.
@@johnhopkinson7573 that's cos the Chelsea players were good. Listened to their manager and not down tools. Maguire, AWB, and unfortunately rashford this season were bad bad. No one could save them this season
@@waggishwonderland Naaah not having that these are the same players who got 74 points total last season..The players need motivating and Rangnick was incapable of it..
Man UTD will never win a trophy for at least 10 years
Alright mystic meg calm down
Ralf Ragnick did a lot of good for United. He exposed the players for what they are, and United have thanked him by getting rid of him. This shows just how United are not willing to change. Ragnick was not brought in to coach the club, he was brought in to analyse the problems and help create the foundations for success by restructuring at United. But United for all the hopes we had and the recent changes, seem unwilling to listen to him. The players are predominantly responsible
Talking about the manager telling players to get on their bikes, but what power does he have to do that as an immediate interim manager where the players and the owners know he won't be there after 6 months? I'm sure the thinking there regardless of how he felt would've been that they might fit into the next manager's plans.
in canada we dont blame our managers or coaches, the players get the blame. Idk why you guys blame the managers so much lol.
Managers have a lot more input than Hockey coaches
Could someone please explain to me why the outgoing interim manager will now move upstairs and have a different job behind the scenes I just don't understand this decision at all
The people who point out that Ralf is the problem are out of context here. These players were starting to control the dressing room even before Ole became a manager. He is the one who pampered them to be these arrogant players they are now.
Ralf is an interim manager who wasn't given enough power to control the dressing room by the board by the looks of things. He clearly pointed out the problems at United with great honesty. Even Mourinho did mention some of the things about the players and the board before he left. Back then everyone called him mad. Now it has come true.
So please don't blame everything on Ralf. In my opinion, he is the one who kickstarted this rebuild and I'll always be grateful for his honesty and directness towards the issues at united.
Who's the expert manager at the beginning explaining how it's done?
Ralf Rangnick’s work speaks for itself in Germany. I have a feeling he thought Manchester would be cake for him given his status and respect that people have for him outside of England. He’s exceptional at what he does there’s no doubt about it. When it comes down to it is the players, will the players buy into the systems and tactics of the gaffer. In this instance they didn’t. I’m a Tottenham fan and same thing happened with Nuno, the players failed to accept his tactics and because of that we played poorly and Nuno was replaced with Conte. I do believe that these Manchester players have just flat out stopped trying. Ten Hag is an amazing coach but he really needs pulling power in order for it to workout. Ajax is a guaranteed success, English PL is a whole different beast. I hope it works out for ManUtd. I loved watching them under Ferguson.
I don’t think any top manager would’ve been able to do a better job than ralf, if the players don’t play for you and the club what can u even do?
This is from the station that has Gary running around the car park after Ten Hag.
Thought that was Gus Fring and Heisenberg on the thumbnail for a minute there.
I like Ralf, he just got nailed. I don't know what it is but I think the media are going to be after Ten Haag after 6 months and his relationship with the press will ultimately cost him. Just a feeling I've got that he's not the man for the job...
I will say it’s good these things had happen now . So it’s good for new management to take care and solve the issues.
They literally lost 4-1 against Watford under Ole, what are they talking about?
They also finished second under ole and got to the europa league final, he had a much better time than ragnick
@@danielhendry8376 lost against Villarreal in the final with a squad that costs 10 times more, and finished second in a season where Liverpool had a big injury crisis, Chelsea had Lampard as a manager for half a season, and even Arsenal and Spurs were way worse than they are today, they were lucky to get second.
What they dont seem to understand is that Ter Hag is not just a manager that buys some world class players here and there. The players have to fit in their way of playing. Defenders must be able to attack and put in the crosses, so that’s already a big difference there. The players he will get are likely not to be in anyone’s top 3. It’s a much more dynamic system than what United is used to playing. To get this right will take time. They won’t immediately be at the same level as city or liverpool, that’s just unrealistic.
That's funny, All the pundits and fans were praising the appointment when it happened
I love how as soon as Ole leaves the energy changes from "Blame the players" who Ole brought in let's not forget, to blame the coach
I wasn't surprised they let him go, I was beginning to think they should weeks ago. If he's struggling to assert himself with the players, what chance would he have with the Glazers and this board. I wouldn't be surprised to find out later that he was talking tough in the media (which the fans loved him for) but in front of the players and board he was a shadow of that. Also, being honest is one thing, but even I'd recognize that if you walk into that hornet's nest you have to operate with a bit of diplomacy until you're actually IN the job you came for. My guess: the board lost patience with being embarrassed every week, Ten felt starting on a good foot with the existing squad required bonding over a common enemy, and what better way to ingratiate the players with their new manager than to let go of the one person they couldn't stand? Then when you still face resistance, you know who to not even waste time on and he will sell them without even flinching.
it would be nice to see players play with a bit of enthusiasm next season.
Michael Carrick should be appointed full time manager , Carrick is big player and manager .
Think VdB will be a new player under ETH and if they can get De Jong, they could have a handy midfield. The main thing is the CB’s as that is the foundation and at the moment it’s rotten
If you take your car in for a tire change, and the mechanic doesn’t let you drive off with the car because there are critical issues with other components, are they a bad mechanic?
I would love for eriksen to come to united but I'd be so worried if something happened to him again.
I honestly feel like nothing's going to change at least not in the next two seasons, like Man U makes football look difficult very difficult
Rangnick wanted to get a midfielder in January and was denied the opportunity so what chance would he have to tell the likes of some of these players “see ya later” and move them on. He was brought in to look into the squad and look at what is needed from top to bottom and he’s exposed the club for what is truly is. It’s crazy how the players get so little blame as if they’re giving it there all. Rangnick clearly doesn’t want to play the way we did but with the players he had, what more could he have done. I’m also tired of hearing the rhetoric that Rangnick makes Ole look good. Ole needed to be sacked so move on. We have a new manager and Rangnick who’s known for rebuilding clubs which is exactly what we need rn
The guy who affects the shake up was never going to be popular.
In essence he is a redundancy consultant and he's done that wonderfully
Ten Haag should improve the side's display in turnovers, and hope to finish in one of the playoff positions, so that the club has something to play in the post season. Anything other than that would be a failure. Besides, the board should be able to secure some good trades in the off season in order to bolster the roster.