Neon Dusk Street Photography with Viltrox 27mm f/1.2
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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I was under the impression that full-frame lenses and APSC lenses result in different exposure at the same aperture number (e.g. this Viltrox 27mm at f/2 vs the Nikon 40mm at f/2). In fact, with a simple test at home I realized that at the same aperture they result in nearly the same exposure. The 27mm is a tiny bit darker, but this should be due to the fact that actually 27 * 1.53 (APSC crop factor) = 41.31, not exactly 40. So, perhaps that could account for the ever so slightly dimmer exposure from the Viltrox. But the difference is so tiny that essentially they are identical. Of course the DOF is NOT identical due to the different focal lengths. In conclusion, shooting the 27mm at f/1.2 TOTALLY beats the 40mm f/2 purely in terms of exposure.
Of course, the image has less resolution (19mp vs 45mp) and therefore noise is more noticeable at the same ISO but this gets so complicated that if you'd like more about crop factor equivalence, check out this detailed article I found: photographylife.com/equivalence-also-includes-aperture-and-iso
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Crop factor doesn't change aperture, and thus exposure, at all. Printed photos don't get darker by cropping them with scissors either. It's a common misconception. The smaller image circle means you collect less light in total, but less light on a smaller area is still the same amount of light per area. The only thing crop factor can have an impact on is depth of field, because the crop leads you to choose different focal lengths or subject distances. The small difference in exposure that you do see is likely a side effect of a different optical formula, e.g. some lens element absorbs or reflects a little bit more.
@@CobraFast Yeah, that's what I realized through this experience. People have said that to me before and I just believed it. In fact I use think exactly as you put it: "less light on a smaller area is still the same amount of light per area."
This was always very logical to me, but then someone convinced me otherwise. I didn't think about it much though since I always use full frame lenses, but glad to clear this up once and for all (and prove it to myself with some real world results). :)
I just yelled “Yayyy!” aloud when I saw this pop into my feed. So grateful for your videos, Lukasz and Axel!
Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoy them! :)
I love how casually you stroll around getting absolutely fantastic shots and your always like. "Meh" "it's ok 😂 I kind of like it " great work as always guys
Hahah, thanks! Yeah, I guess I've spoiled myself over the years. But you know, I'm always striving for something 'extra'. It's kind of like playing a game and you get to the harder levels but if you've been to the final boss a few times the hard levels are 'meh'. The greatest satisfaction is to outdo oneself. :)
@@EYExplore love it !🍻
This video has a different vibe in a positive way. A joy to watch.
Totally agree. This feels like Lukas in his element. So many great snaps in here too.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! :)
"I know it's just a shot of a lamp... but it is a beautiful shot. Of a lamp." ❤
Yeah I agree. Sometimes, a simple photo is just pleasant to look at. Not every image needs to be revolutionary. There is pleasure in creating beauty yourself even if it's cliche. :)
That crop at 7:30 is actually way better than I thought it'd be. I totally get not wanting to crop pictures but that wasn't so bad.
Yeah that's just to show the audience the sharpness and quality at 100%, but you're right it does demonstrate that cropping is not really an issue in terms of losing quality, especially on modern cameras with sharp glass. :)
All the megapickles!
All of em! :)
Man this focal length and aperture works so well with your style
Yes I think so too! It's why I've kind of fallen in love with this lens haha. :)
Great video, thanks. Really like your style, both photography and presenting.
Thank you so much!! :)
Another super awesome video, thanks guys
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you! :)
I love your videos and am really enjoying the book. And then I'll do the workshop in September!
Thank you so much!! I'm looking forward to it! :)
Great walk. I particularly love the scene and dude at 16:47 - He fits perfectly there!
Yes me too! That guy was great and I think that series of images is my favorite from the whole thing. Glad you like them! :)
Great video Lukasz. I did the Cyberpunk Streets workshop with you in February in the same locations. A lot of fun and I came away with some great shots from that evening. Look forward to returning to Tokyo in the future for more workshops. Cheers, Ralph. 👍👍👍
Thanks Ralph! Yeah, that was fun and one of the first times I tried that reflection shot on the plexiglass. Thank you for trying it out with me, hehe. I look forward to the next one! :)
Dude, you're snapshots is badass!
Thanks dude!! :)
Czekam na ciekawsze ogniskowe z AF dla pełnej klatki sony-E od viltroxa to może spróbuję. Gratuluję albumu Tokyo Unseen - piękny.
Fajnie by było, gdyby zrobili pełnoklatkowy obiektyw z f/1.2. Może kiedyś. I bardzo dziękuję! Cieszę się, że książka się podoba! :)
21:06 megapickles :)
That's how I always say it haha! :)
Hey Lukasz, great video! I'm enjoying your book very much, very inspiring indeed. Nice Vivobarefoot trainers! I've been wearing that brand for the last 2 years! The Nikon Z9 in simply incredible. Keep the good work up and these videos coming please! Kudos to the whole team at EYExplore.
...whatever happened to Chica? Haven't seen her for a loooooong time.
Cheers, Ray from UK.
Thank you! Got the Vivos a year ago. It's like a workout for my feet but I'm getting more and more used to them! Glad you like the vids! Chica will be back on the channel at some point for sure. :)
I'd love an acual full-frame version, though I know it would be expensive. Since I have Nikon's 50mm f/1.2 already, though...
I'm a bit envious of your locale, though! And you're making some lovely photos in it! 👍
I would love a full frame version also! Glad you enjoy the photos!! :)
Love those shots. I miss Tokyo and hope to be back soon. I took a similar photo of the udon (soba?) guy in the alley when he had the noodles in his hand.
Thanks for the phantastic video. Even though I'm not interested in the lens, it's been enjoyable to watch, as always.
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it! :)
Sir your work is always blow my mind
Thank you kind sir! :)
18:35 "I wanted to see the actual fall-off and the vignetting..." I was thinking the same for the first 18 minutes of the video until you explained the camera won't let you!
Yeah, that was disappointing.
Great video, congratulations!
27mm become 40.5mm on FX, but f:1.2 remains f:1.2 in both, FX and DX formats. I am sure you know this ;-)
Yes, I do, but during the shooting of the video I was a bit unsure. I never use crop lenses or cameras so I never really think about these things until I had to explain them on camera. Shows you how little we prepare for these videos, haha.
And AKSHUALLY, the crop factor for Nikon lenses is 1.53, so the effective FOV is equivalent to 41.31mm on full frame. 🤓🤓🤓
This is wild because I was just researching this lens yesterday, I know it’s not old but it’s not super duper new so to see a brand new video on it was cool especially when I’m considering buying this very lens!
Yeah, we're super duper slow to get anything out hahah. We got the lens from Viltrox a few months ago and finally show a video about in June and then finally posted it in July lol. We move at a glacial pace, but that's okay. :)
Lots of "banger" snaps in this vid. Also, I noticed Axel taking wider shots whenever Lukasz takes pics which I think I prefer. Awesome upload guys! P.S. That Z9 is a beast, my Zf may not have kept up in the same scenarios.
Thank you so much!! Yeah, Axel does an amazing job of moving from wide to tight as needed. It's like a ballet. As for the Zf, doesn't it have the same AF system? Maybe I'm mistaken...
@@EYExplore I'm not sure as well. Used the Zf and 40mm kit for street while traveling and my hit rate was lower than desired. Likely user error on my part. 🥴
I miss the compact camera walks
Do you also watch the ones with do for the Ricoh channel? ruclips.net/p/PLCog7J1TApzN5e3m-QxWXJO-MuehUNMZr
Enjoyable post and cool pics, Lukasz. Learned new technical term “mega-pickles”😊. If you shoot on FF w/crop lens but keep FF mode so that you see the image circle, as you mentioned, I wonder how PS would complete the image via generative fill. Worth a try?
Bus pics and shop at 17.19 (layers) my fav.
Not heard the bit about better AF at wider apertures before. Street with railings at 5.42 - pedestrians in center, reserved for them?
What did the first red lantern sign translate to? Can only imagine the aromas of that narrow alley w/food shops.
Overall blue theme in this one, including host t-shirt.
Yeah I would love to try that, but the camera just won't let me select FF mode while using the crop lens. Older Nikon cameras would allow this, so I dunno, I guess they removed this function for no good reason. I love the bus pics too! Was very happy when editing those!
The better AF thing is just my hunch but it makes sense to me and it feels like I've experienced it in practice. But this is purely anecdotal. Yeah, at 5:42 the railings are just dividing the sidewalk from the street since there are no proper curbs here. The first red lamp says 'yakitori' or grilled chicken, and second one says 'kushiyaki' or grilled sicks (meaning stuff on a stick).
Haha, yeah I noticed the shirt matched beautifully with the blue hour when I was color grading this one. Was very pleased with that! :)
Yeah, using a a DX lens on an FX body using FX mode is definitely interesting (at least on the Dxxx series). The F-mount Nikon 35 mm f/1.8 DX projects a perfectly usable image circle wide open on full-frame sensors and it's fun that it can be used in FX mode. It projects such a large image circle to the point where I don't understand why they market it as a DX lens, haha! Not sure why they force and limit full frame Z bodies to DX when a DX lens is attached. Takes away the option and therefore also limits creativity, in my opinion. :(
Yeah I discovered this when I got this lens and found it immensely disappointing. I'm really curious how this lens stacks up. Wide open it may actually fill the frame pretty well! :)
Why don't you give the lens to Axel, to test its video capabilities?))
Funny you say that because I suggested that we can use this lens to shoot the videos but he prefers wide-angle and with the crop the lens is a bit tight at around 40mm equivalent FOV. However, it DOES inspires us to get a wider APSC lens and use it for video. The crop factor is not an issue for video really.
@@EYExplore It's Great to hear that. Also, as you mentioned in the video, there's that cool "circle vignette" effect when you shoot in the full frame mode with a crop lens, I really would love to experiment with it, thanks for reminding it).
@@Artur_Musheghyan Yeah, I wonder if the Z6 will allow that. But my Z9 didn't, which is disappointing.
@@EYExplore That's pity. though I guess they can fix it with firmware update
11:51 Love this shot
Thank you! I liked that one too. The guy's look is so cool, haha. :)
to be honest, I was a little disappointed after realizing that it is an APS-C lens... the 40mm f2 does its job good enough... but as always, nice and inspiring video
Yeah, actually, I sold my 40 f/2 and this replaced it. 1.2 is nearly 2 stop more light, which is a huge. And I don't miss the pixels as I still end up with 20mp. :)
I wasn't sure if this was an aps-c or full frame lens. 27mm is usually an aps-c focal length, but I've seen Viltrox itself posting a few photos and videos of this lens on full frame cameras.
Yeah, it's APSC. But works great on full frame! :)
I use that lens on my Fuji XT5 and I love it... Although with that big lens on the tiny Fuji, it's like towing a container trailer with a Mini Cooper. 😁
Yeah, that's something I thought too. The lens feels great no the gigantic Z9 but it would be feel ridiculous on a tiny Z50. The balance and weight would be very far forward and I imagine with the tiny grip it would be uncomfortable for me to hold.
Bought that lens in FX mount for my x-h1. My only complaint is that now i want wide angle😂. From my testing i found that with close focus there is a little bit of loss of contrast and gloom around the whole frame. at 1.8 everything is good and gets even better at 2.8. My only complaint is that sometimes aperture is a bit jumpy and exposure lock randomly darkens image 0.3 of a stop. Maybe its software issue, maybe its x-h1 issue, which is quite old. And sometimes it slightly misses focus even at f8. This is think is old AF tech messing things up.
Hmmm, interesting. It could be that the lenses are a bit different for Nikon/Fuji/Sony. I think they have to be because I'm guessing the flange distance is not the same on all these cameras, so the optic need to adjust for that. As for AF, as I said in the video, it was amazing for me (as usual on my camera) so I felt not difference from my other lenses. If anything, it was better than my 40mm f/2 (which I sold yesterday since this easily replaces it). :)
I have used the Nikon 35mm 1.8g DX on my Nikon D4 and from f/1.8 to f/4 it has very low Vignetting, but as you stomp down it gets worst. It's a great budget ($130 used all day) lens for 35mm on FX if you don't want to fork over the $500 for the FX version.
Nice! I used to have that lens a long time ago. It was one of my first lenses ever! :)
I've always been a Nikkor man, but recently got a cheap used Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 and liked it so much I got their 40mm f/2.5 as well - also fantastic and I got both for £375!!
This one isn't for me, as I've only got a Z6 and it would be 10mp :/
I had the 85 for Nikon too and sold it a while back... I kind of regret that! I've been wanting another 'longish' prime for a while, but I'm thinking about getting a 58mm 1.4.... maybe....
Think you were using that lens when we met in March
I think so! I only shot it that one day and then put it on the shelf for a while, but after shooting this video it's been on my camera a lot. I really like it! :)
Use it in square mode and it will work fine full frame.
Ah cool, but the thing is I can't force the camera to shoot this lens in full frame. Not sure if that's a bug, a feature, or something with the settings...
@@EYExplore that is very odd. Must be a bug with this particular lens. Usually with Z cameras the freedom is always there. If you tell Viltrox about it they may do a firmware update.
@@snoogly good idea! Also there may be an update and I just didn't check. I'll look into it.
You said mega pickles 😆
I do every time! :)
@@EYExplore really? I never noticed if they made into the edit.
@@moncilu Yeah any time I mention resolution I say megapickles haha. :)
@@EYExplore how did I not notice. so cute ☺️
at apsc,it's just F1.8,but you can take f1.2 shutter speed and use more low 1/3 iso,but i still think ff with 35 1.8 lens is the better choise,they made more little and light body.more quilty at night.
It's still 1.2, it's just that it's the same at 1.8 with a 40mm. But that's just regarding bokeh. Regarding exposure it's the same, which is great because that's what I really care about. :)
@@EYExplore thank you,hope you make great pic every day
@21:04 one can never have enough mega pickels 🥒
Definitely not! :)
Your English is very good, but I think this is Your second language?
your is in a lower scale in the end
Well, technically it is. I was born in Poland and moved to the US when I was 5 years old. But since then English has become my main language. I think in English and speak English 99% of the time. I am still fluent in Polish, but sometimes I struggle for certain high level words and the English words pop into my head instead.
you were complaining a little about the "loss of megapixils" leading me to ask, in street photography why do you really need all those megapixels for. Not trying to be snarky, seriously unless you crop the hell out of an image and can't use the upscale software, in all honesty I don't the need for more than 24 megapixils for street work. As you also shoot with thr Richo GR III I was surprised to hear lament the loss of megapixils as a bad thing in street photography
Well, yeah that's the conclusion I make, it's not a big deal. Didn't I say that? I pointed out that it's a loss of resolution because... it is! But it really makes no difference because (on this camera at least) you still end up with around 20mp, which is huge! I feel I said all that in the video lol. To me, the genre (street, or whatever) is irrelevant. I don't see what that has to do with anything. What matters is how large the photos will be viewed eventually. If I want to print my street photo 100cm wide (something I've done) then I'm gonna want that resolution.