This show fucking stupid. This 50 year old baby contradicts yoda saying he was training Jedi for 800 years. Why do we need to see dinosaurs in Star Wars. They have zero idea of how the mandalorian culture works
I know I’m leagues late @TheLittlePlatoon but cloning was entirely decimated in universe because of every single kaminoan city being bombarded till turned into scrap. You see it happen in the bad batch. Idr if it came out before S3 or not of the Mandalorian but that’s generally it for why cloning disappeared.
Lack of vision? I've noticed this type of stuff in alot of shows lately, that it takes forever for them to introduce the plot, and they do when the show is almost over.
In Mando’s case I’m pretty sure it’s because they just don’t have much plot to introduce. They clearly had more ideas for Bo Katan’s arc, but found themselves in the weird position of being held back by their two main characters.
@@TheLittlePlatoon kinda? It's like they aborted Bo Katan's arc halfway and gave her Din's instead. I actually think this season had a vision behind it. The finale ends to what the second episode and previous seasons were setting up. But the procession from setup to payoff had to be crammed mostly to the second, fourth, seventh and eighth episodes, because about half the season was filler.
When I went to college, if someone was in a Frat or Sorority, they literally copied off each other on everything, they rarely ever actually did their own homework or passed a class on their own merit. I feel that I am now seeing the conclusion and Quality of what my fellow classmates put into their effort in learning...and seeing it put into expression and motion on the big screen now a days. That or its because of the D.E.I. hires, and the complete LACK of MERIT now a days in the Hollywood and Entertainment industry... if your gay, trans, leftist, or black, or female, you get those 5-6 promotions before a White Person or Male. and if your a white male ... your fng screwed. But something is causing our Entertainment industry to be completely pathetic and just a heaping pile of dumpster fire Woke Trash.
@@TheLittlePlatoon Personally, I think it comes from a dislike/rebellion against basic story telling and plot structure. Everyone seems to want to do their own thing, their own way.
I think KK wrote it and never told anyone. She was hoping that when everyone liked it, she could say "AHA! I wrote that! You liked it because you thought it wasn't me! See? I'M not the problem! You're all just sexist!" The only reason I think this is cus...well...every man is a fool, every woman is a god, and you only get to take your mask or helmet off if you're not white. Except Jack Black...who they hid behind a massive beard the moment they found out that he's not really black.
Mandalorian combat training seems to be based on running towards your enemy, cycling through your range of weapons and gadgets with little to no effect until you're standing right next to them.
Their tactics especially started to piss me off when they retook Navarro. Why were they on the streets? They have jetpacks, they could be jumping from roof to roof constantly with a bird’s eye view. How did they ever get flanked or pinned down? Again, *they have jetpacks,* if anything they should be the ones outflanking the pirates.
It’s too bad we cant imagine more interesting fights, like anti-air weapons that would keep you on the ground or a heavily armored enemy that’s vulnerable to tripping. SW just can’t do those things
That sounds like how combat works in MMOs tbh. Minus the standing right next to enemies part - kiting is generally preferred to doing a leeroy jenkins.
Remember in Boba Fett? When Boba slipped away from the battle with the big shielded droids? And instead of getting Slave I, a ship with ION CANNONS (specifically meant to disable shields), he fetched a hairless King Kong so we could have a scene with Grogu using the Force?
Ok but I thought it was really cool to have the rancor payoff, and it was so much more fun watching it brawl with the droids than have Boba Fett fly in and shoot stuff.
It was terrible in the logic of the scene but it did show at least something of a link to the past of Mandalorians being beast riders (Mythosaurs and Basilisk war droids). But it then made me immediately angry because it just showed that Fett, not Bo Katan should be the next Mandalor but we can't have nice things. Surely his time with the Sand People should have reminded him if the lessons of his father about their Mandalorian heritage and have time for Boba to realise his father was right and he should become the Mandalorian he had refused all his life in favour of being a bounty hunter. But we can't have nice things.
Here is a fascinating thing, how a certain type of person clearly rages on the left, but indulges in their tactics of shadowbanning. You Sir are an absolute shower and a cad.
This opened my third eye. The plot of Mandolorian works because the writers know you’re probably just on your phone 90% of the time. They know you’re only like half paying attention, so they only write like half of a story.
@@Dionysos_____Alters Oh my God bro no way you’re making this point. Feeding social behaviors proliferate them, especially when you’re THE massive media conglomerate that basically owns the entertainment industry. They’re not “adapting or dying”, they’re the one’s fucking causing it.
@@Dionysos_____Altersthis is an insane argument. ‘Adapt or die’ to ppl not watching your show except glancing over for a few seconds from their phone, you can’t possible be arguing that is how shows should work. There’s plenty huge shows that have come out that are popular becuz they have engaged and attracted people’s attention and investment enough where they don’t feel like going on their phone. A hard feat sure, but there’s no way you want shows to act like baby-sensory videos that are jiggling the keys in front of you like you have no brain capacity besides ‘oh cool shiny thing’. Thats not how tv series work.
This became pretty damn obvious with the bird episode, they spent a whole episode saving some random Mando kid from a giant bird, no character development, no stakes, no real engagement besides big battle and Bo Katan being ‘accepted’, but not rlly any more than she already was, and she never actually proves herself. Anyways, I don’t understand the hate the New Republic episode got, that was some fantastic writing despite the slow pace and very mundane/minimalist setting/plot, it was riveting the character and intrigue and mystery they were developing, like a small hard-boiled thriller/crime plot
@@GuineaPigEveryday It has fuckall to do with the Mandolorian. If you were watching New Hope, and then like the second act was entirely replaced with Raiders of the Los Ark, that’s not good writing, that’s jarring and disconnected.
I remember when Mandalorians were the absolute most elite fighters one could possibly imagine. The only non-Force sensitives to actually stand a chance when fighting a Jedi (with a select few even having multiple Jedi kills). Their entire kit was built around quick, tactical thinking. They have the best tool for the job on hand at all times, as well as the knowledge of which tool to use. Most importantly, they have the collected mind in the midst of chaos that allows them to determine which of their tools is the best and what option is the best. A Mandalorian in combat is meant to be a foe greater than any other, who can alternative seamlessly between unleashing a barrage of surprise attacks and dodging every attack you can muster. A foe even Jedi fear to face. But apparently a big lizard comes along and all that goes out the window because "big and scary" and every Mandalorian in sight just does stupid crap at random.
...and people get upset when creators appear to despise Star Wars-fans. Even I _can't stand you_ and I'm one of you ffs.This has _never ever_ been a universe of realistic tactical combat, it's theatre fencing from square one. It's a swashbuckling adventure where people swing from chandeliers and duel the monologuing villain. The Stormtroopers are the most elite fighting force in the galaxy _until they fire at Robin Hood and his Merry Men,_ how many decades will it take for you to get it?
@@infantiltinferno You're a complete moron, clearly not someone that actually watched the OT (let alone had any positive feelings towards it), and interacting with you beyond this point would be a complete waste of my time.
@@infantiltinfernoAnd how long will it take for you to understand that that's a result of later creators misunderstanding the movies and taking popular memes and making them real parts of the story?
@@infantiltinferno so you do not want them to be consistent within the lore/canon of an established franchise? storm trooper were NOT the most elite, that was the CLONE troopers who were clones of a quasi Mandalorian (technically a mando kind of) death troopers were the elite of elites in the empire AKA the black armor guys from rogue one. when you cannot keep your own story consistent with other stories within a connected universe you take people out of the immersion of the show and thus they start to notice the cracks in its "storytelling". the mandos WERE IN CANON the pinnicle of tactical warfare and combat, some of the best fighters in the galaxy due to exactly what the OP typed. the creators HATE nerds because we actually give a fuck about these franchises and the characters/stories within them and thus we want you to fucking do it justice and actually try. wana know why many enjoy the prequels despite their flaws? because at the core of the prequels the heart and soul of star wars is there, and it had something to say and executed that vision well (minus the romance dialogue lol and the first half of attack of the clones) and the prequels in a shorter amount of time told more of a story than ahsoka/mando have done with their run times. its also why most people hate the sequels, theres not even a nugget of good to be gained from them, except for one small scene that gave rey a humanizing quality... that scene where she see's rain for the first time.... thats all the sequels did that made you feel anything positive besides seeing the ending credits. you also fail to understand that even robin hood took its self more seriously than disney did with star wars, robin hood: men in tights told a story with characters you love that was also well written... and that was a comedy, where it followed its own lore/rules and characters did not break character for the plot.... what you said is just as retarded as saying "why are you taking this so seriously?! its just a kids movie around space wizards fighting space nazis!" its such a purposely ignorant stance to take and highly dismissive of others simple because YOU do not understand them or agree with them OR you do not like that they poke holes through something you enjoyed.
Had an argument on reddit about this. Someone said from the ground to space is like 60 miles, and said its not unreasonable that they chased the dragon at least that far. Completely ignoring the fact that they apparently chase the thing enough to know it always gets away. So why do they let the thing just snatch people up if they know it does so? Why do they have to chase it at all when they could just stay in the cave? Or have their other mandalorians keep watch for the thing? All stuff that would make the mandalorians at least not stupid, but to the average mando fan it doesn't matter at all. Right over their heads.
@@jeebtheweeb The cap ship in the later episode appeared to be in a high orbit, which is like 100 mi or more. Regardless, you are spot-on with regard to having no one on lookout/watch duty, given the presence and knowledge of large hostile animals...
@@piersonchristensen8836 The viewership numbers was gotten from Samba TV since Disney+ doesn't reveal their numbers. The Mandolarian's third season debut got 1.5 million views when compared to the season 2 premiere of 2.08 million views.
59:19 Okay, so, in Katee Sackhoff’s defense, she is mimicking the mannerisms of the animated character whom she also voiced. When she originally voiced the character, she was far more expressive than how they ultimately animated her; Katee has to hold back when the hemet is off because Bo canonically isn’t very expressive.
I totally agree! And calling her botox karen is just dehumanising and incredibly disrespectful. It sometimes really feels like these youtube essay creators spend so much time nitpicking every aspect of a thing that they actually forgets to go out and socialise to a point where they stop seeing everyone working on said thing as just people. This show is not made by Disney the mega corporation, its made by hundreds of people who worked really hard. Is it worth criticising? Absolutely! But this is just more of the same retorik that has plagued this fanbase since the prequels. Stop dehumanising the actors. I really thought we learned this a long time ago with people like Ahmed Best And Hayden Christensen who just did what the director told them to do.
@@gee-es The show definitely has plenty of flaws and shortcomings, but her acting definitely isn’t one of them. There’s actually an interview of Katee expressing her frustration with playing Bo. Basically, she loves the character, but feels like she can only act with the helmet on since Bo is so expressionless. Like, that’s not the actress’s fault whatsoever. That’s how the character is. Reminds me of what you said. People complained about Hayden Christensen’s acting, but he was actually pretty darn brilliant. The issue was with some of the dialogue and the movies’ runtime. Even George Lucas had to tell folks to stop, saying “it’s not Hayden’s acting you dislike. What you dislike is Anakin Skywalker.” And he was absolutely right. Being upset with how Anakin was written is totally fair, but Hayden did exactly what was asked of him.
He isn’t criticizing the actor by calling her Botox Karen, he’s criticizing the writing and characterization of her. Obviously she can do the character if the acting is better when the helmet is on. They should stop clinging to ‘this is how the character was when it was animated so it has to be exactly like that in live action’, especially if something different serves to better the end project. Katee is great and I hope if she does see criticism of Bo-Katan that she doesn’t internalize it as criticism of her.
@@alexhayden219I don't know how acting works in this respect but I'm fairly sure you can't just... ignore the director and do your own thing. Mark Hamill had the same complaints about old Luke, but he still did it. You can't ignore who's paying you in most jobs.
10:46 I mean it's all well and good for Mando to fly a modified Naboo fighter *immediately* after the Razor Crest is destroyed, simply on the basis that it's far better than having no ship at all. But if he's going to continue being a bounty hunter yet also keep the starfighter, he needs something bigger to dock it on. Something that can actually have holding cells for the prisoners he captures.
Holding cells aren't even the most important part, is he just sitting in that chair, unmoving, no bed, no bathroom, in the many multi-day travel sessions he's been shown to take!?! Or is he just limiting his flight plans to half day jumps!?!?!
I agree. I was hoping they would do something similar to the twilight in the clone wars. Old bucket of bolts ship with a dock for a fighter and it's pre-empire like the razor crest.
Grogu certainly didnt need to come back and im gonna die on that hill, his arc was over. And i wanna see more of din djarin than just him being space joel, tlou, Logan, The witcher, Im getting kind of tired of super tough dad narratives(mostly because its the only thing it allows the character to be) . Even Rebels had the whole family dynamic already.
Yup. Season 2 should have been the end of his journey, at least for a while. Send him off with Luke, leave the audience wondering how that all panned out, let Mando find some sort of purpose/job/reason to be.
An essential part of being a good dad is letting go of your kid. And an essential part of good storytelling is not immediately and unceremoniously backtracking on significant emotional payoffs... such as a dad letting go of his kid...
@@TheLittlePlatoon Mando got several dozen fetch quests AND got to explain the plot to Gro-...uh, the audience! Plus he gets to rejoin the Way after one of the fetch quests and also after being saved by a woman half his size! I can't wait for season 4 when he explains to Grogu how orange man bad and helps a backwoods planet legalize abortion!
@@TheLittlePlatoon Do you know what bothers me more and more about the way Star Wars stories are written? Its their careless use of language. Mandalorians have "clans". "Clan" implies a distant familial connection between members. These clans control an indeterminate amount of people in The Mandalorian. In prior lore, individual clans colonized whole planets as early as the 3000 years before Episode 4. Would 3000 years worth of people maintain a sense of familial identity? This careless use of words bothers me, but I think it has subconsciously bothered millions of fans ever since the Trade Federation appeared as a force for evil maybe, with an independent army maybe, in a republic with no army seemingly, run by an autocratic question mark, named a viceroy...okay, whose goal was to overthrow a queen you follow, of a whole planet you see, who is democratically elected I guess, which is a common enough concept in the galaxy that it shows up twice in the narrow slice of its story that we experience. A viceroy with no Rex. An Inquisition with no inquests or religion or popular or political backing. A Trade Federation that does not seem to have any federated entities and does not trade. But it has an army. Meanwhile the Republic does not. Silliness. It is impossible to comprehend stories written this way except on a surface level.
Absolutely. When i heard he was in the 3rd season, it let out all the helium I had in the Mandalorian Balloon....probably why I didnt even care if a 3rd season was even made. I was happy with 2 seasons, it told a good story up to that point. I am completely done with Grogu... i could have been interested in seeing him actually able to walk 20ft on his own on the next time i saw him on screen ... but to see a stupid little bobble head puppet again for another full season ... nope. I had no interest.
I don't think Baby Yoda is inherently bad, but the inability of the show to let go of Baby Yoda is. The logical and emotionally satisfying endpoint of Grogu's narrative is him leaving with Luke as Mando continues the narrative without him. Can't continue the story without Grogu? Then end it there But whoever made the show didn't have the guts to stick to their guns. Baby Yoda had to come back because they decided he was too 'iconic' to let go
Disney saw the popularity of Grogru and wrote the mandalorian around it, at first it seemed like a bounty Hunter tv show. Now it’s just weird with no vision
you have spoken its sad to remember watching the first episode and going from "ooh, this is one annoying danny de vito alien" to "shit, this is real star wars finally!!!"
But it's not Grogu making it weird! It's all the damn cameos and suddenly filling the show with a load of lore and characters from other stories. Grogu is fine! Grogu is great, in fact! He's one of the few remnants of the original show, before it just became a launchpad for a bunch of cash-grab spinoffs, and a way to continue stories from years ago, rather than create a new story.
@@nickm8874 They just reversed everything back. Mando isn´t a Mandalorian anymore...and now he is again Grogu isn´t part of Mando´s story anymore...and now he is again What will he do with the sword?...nevermind, it´s back to the former owner
Wasn't a script, it was a lazy storyboard by favreau No writers in sight Which is why they're striking But hey, who needs accuracy any more, so long as they pander to your opinions 😂
I said this since the first few episodes of season 1. Mando is a perfect video game protagonist in a video game setting. Hunt bounties and upgrade your gear just like in the show as you go to various planets while also following the main quest following the show's story.
This was set up beautifully for grogu to go away and return in a couple of seasons more grown up after season 2, though 1 episode of boba fett completely undone this completely.
@@danielspence1653 meh even if he came back still in baby form and his force sensitive powers stronger, if all would have lined up more with what the 1st two seasons set out.
I agree, he's literally 52 years old by season 3. How long does it take a Yoda species to become a child. I mean if is how slowly Yoda and Yaddle aged then they would have been a Jedi Padawan for nearly 200 years.
we went from independent bounty hunter traveling the galaxy to single dad show,just as boba fett went from awesome bounty hunter to backwater government daily show
Yeah, you would think he would be a remnant of a Bounty Hunter that works for Gideon should’ve actually turn against him should be enough for 2 seasoned show, but no, just another walking exposition that sets up for the Sequel, like what?
it was a single dad show from the start and disney failed to let grogu go with Luke now it's just a sad prediction of single dads taking care of children, while women go crazy with metal devil and his ai minions
I still think if those stupid speeder kids were written out Boba woulda been so much better. But when you get your ass handed to you in an argument by a strong woman emo cyborg it takes you down a peg or two…
Are you willing to blame Kathleen Kennedy for making this happen because it’s not the script that they Filoni actually wrote Boba Fett was meant to continue being a kick ass bounty hunter have you not noticed all the Star Wars theories makes the women more important and powerful than the men you can think Kathleen Kennedy for the demise of the series even the Asoka show is no different. the men are weak. The women are strong when George Lucas was in control the women were filming it and the men were masculine.
This series has so many problems if you think about it even a moment. The funny thing is as many great critics have said, you only notice the flaws if your already bored. Every movie and show has issues. They stand out however when your mind has nothing else to really focus on and you spend the time to think and look at what is really happening.
@@Maladjester Pretty much and I have enjoyed many a bad movie. I grew up with my mom exposing me to things like Mystery Science Theater 3k, So bad it's Good movie night I think it was on TNT etc. Bad movies can be good too, especially if you go into them just to make fun of it. I think the truly bad stuff is the stuff so boring and mediocre it's not even bad. Just boring.
I heard good things about Andor, but the people working on it chose to mouth off before it even aired and … well, I’m not a critic, so I decided I’m no longer giving Hollywood stuff a chance if the creators don’t know how to keep their traps shut! The stuff about the Empire as a stand-in for a Trumpian world, in which our freedoms disappear every day, and their show being about a selfish man who comes to realize that things can only be improved through violent revolution (with emphasis on “revolution”, rather than “rebellion”)… it just made me want to suggest that they all go sodomize themselves, even if the show isn’t nearly as bad as they made it sound!
The problem with Andor is that narratively speaking it's completely pointless. It's following a character who dies and a whole bunch of other characters that have no impact on the wider narrative. It doesn't matter how good it is if the universe it exists in is completely ruined. Disney Star Wars is completely pointless because the sequel trilogy is so bad that it retroactively makes everything that comes before it in the timeline utterly futile since it all ends up at the mess that is the Rise of Skywalker.
@@curranlakhani That's why I never bothered with Andor. Opinions of it have been good but I'm just not interested in a character who in my opinion had his arc in Rogue One... Then died. I didn't need to see more about him, as he just wasn't that interesting to me anyway.
Castings like Giancarlo Esposito have become such a handy tell. Seeing him playing Gus in other stuff shouts "we couldn't write a convincing character so we cast someone who played that character convincingly in another property". Nothing against the actors of course. It's always nice seeing people rewarded for their accomplishments. Giancarlo is just an example, and he's capable of playing roles other than Gus. But it sure is a sign of subpar writing when they cast him as Space Gus.
I hate when movie makers do that too. as not only does a distract from understanding why another actors performance worked so well and something else, but also they simply decide to use it as a vessel for how a character should be played. Casting people in certain roles should be about giving the audience a character, not a performance.
Well, that's not something SW is uniquely guilty of. Esposito is also corporate Gus in The Boys, Cyber Gus in Edgerunners, Political Gus in Far Cry. Or is this precisely what you were referring to?
I did wonder why that kid got so much emphasis when he was such an irrelevant character even by this show's standards. Finding out he's Jimmy Kimmel's nephew makes perfect sense. Glad to see the showrunners have their priorities straight.
No. Season 2 set up the taking back Mandalore storyline and Din Djarin's personal storyline in it. It just got subverted and crammed into about half a season, while other half was filler.
Disagree. Season 3 focussed on finishing the previously introduced storylines outside of the Din + Grogu plot that were still open: 1. The main Darksaber plotline to reunite the Mandalorian tribes and the return to Mandalore. 2. Tying up the lose end of the geneticist and Moff Gideon, which is part of the "Rise of the First Order" plot in the background.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog "focused" is a hard no. The show can barely focus on making sense between lines of dialogue. Most of it is nonsense filler. "Continued" is more of what it did, and barely at that.
@@Soccercrazyigboman Ship of Theseus is a fairly famous philosophical problem that goes something like this. Theseus built a ship and sailed it out. It returned and got minor repairs, rinse and repeat until every single plank was not on the original ship. Is it still the ship of Theseus afterall it isn't in any way the same as what he built but if it isn't when did it stop being one? When the first plank was replaced? When the last one was replaces even though it was still the same repair of replacing one plank etc.
@@anaccountforcommenting6651 the concept only needs 2 parts for the thought experiment. any more is filler and irrelevant. you can replace the ship with a broom changing out the handle and then the brush still makes it a thesian broom
@@fluffypinkpandas I suppose you are right but I think ship is much more demonstrative of the issue as the overall change of one repair is much smaller in scope. When changing the handle of a broom you are changing over half of it and as such I think the part that is the most interesting (Supposing the object isn't of Theseus anymore when did it stop being such) is much easier to see in the example with the ship
1:38:48 this is literally what happened in the original expanded universe, and the New Republic was still using Star Destroyers 30 years after a New Hope to battle the Yuuzhan Vong
First few minutes hit hard. I deliberately waited until the first two seasons had been out for a while. Then watched after finishing a deployment while on leave at my parents' house on my dad's big screen. Alone at night. After binging through to season 2 I just turned it a couple episodes in when I realized there was no tension in the fights. "Hey, member troopers?" "Yeah, I member them being dangerous."
One of the things that annoyed me about Grogu's escape from Order 66 was the way the gunships were casually firing lasers all over the place in the middle of a city. I would honestly have been *more* annoyed had they launched rockets, though really the lasers probably did enough damage that it wouldn't matter anyway.
Honestly at this point, I dont care about Escapes from Order 66, like C´mon they retcon that BS everyday, for me the canon will always be the established first Raid on the Jedi Temple by Anakin and the Clones before Disney take over, Shak Ti survives and goes into hiding, younglings dead (no survivors sorry baby Yoda and Reva), etc...
I dunno if you can describe it as "concise" lol but it is very good. When mauler is too far off from the next vid... This fine gentleman comes along and takes up the mantle nicely.
Here is a fascinating thing, how a certain type of person clearly rages on the left, but indulges in their tactics of shadowbanning. You Sir are an absolute shower and a cad.
I always felt that Baby Yoda (Grogu) was using force powers to manipulate Mando into caring about him. Which is why I was like "oh, that's why he shot the droid in the head, he was using force suggestion to convince him to do so". I guess I was adding context to a character that had none. I like the show because it was simple and relatively entertaining. It gave my brain a chance to just relax and not think about things. The newest season was terrible.
Finally! I was so shocked how badly this season went. After two relatively good seasons, the lack of effort in this one was *appalling*. Outside of some fun scenes, there were so many issues with it, I could barely watch it for more than 5 minutes without face-palming. (edit: typo)
I mean, it's always been this way. The dumb stuff was just hidden better until the main drive of the story was undone in the Boba show. Should I remind you that Mando forgets he has a ship in the first season so AT-ST wouldn't be destroyed by its cannon easily? Or his droid phobia redemption arc with IG-11 that started right after ANOTHER DROID TRIED TO KILL BABY YODA in the previous episode? Or him forgetting about the functions of his ship (super defensive mode mentioned in the finale) so that Jawas can steal from him? I'm glad people are finally catching up to how bad the show is.
Season 3 of the mandalorian: What I wanted/expected: "Lone wolf and cub" meets "have gun-will travel" in space. What I got: YAS GRILL QUEEN BOSS POWER SLAAAYYYYY
In defense of “The Convert” which is one of the smarter episodes of the season (which isn’t saying much), the decommissioning of the star destroyer is part of a larger movement to decommission the entire new republic fleet. Mentioned in the first office scene. In this scene we also see astromech droids repurposed as office assistants. I think this is a big clue as to how the new republic will be consistently characterized going forward in future media. Which raises some eyebrows as, like you said, this conflicts with its depiction in the sequel trilogy. However, it does offer a band aid explanation as to how the first order was allowed to gain power. It’s because the new republic was grossly incompetent.
Also worth mentioning, I can't begin to imagine how insanely awful the optics would be for the New Republic to be flying around in the Star Destroyers used by the tyrannical genocidal regime
@@pollertry4003 it worked rather well in the EU.... they repainted them and used them mainly for combat. they were HUGELY important during the vong war as well as the new republics super star destroyers they kept around.... also why would you get rid of them? you have the imperial remnant still around with their own and maybe more than the new republics knows...
@@pollertry4003 hell in tge old EU, Luke thought it was bad optics for the New Republic to put its capital on Coreciant because it involved reusing the Emperor's palace as key government infrastructure. Hell, the old EU had a lot of stuff about how the New Republic struggled to maintain a sufficient military due to the stigma/association it had with The Empire. Even if all that was just an excuse to make having Han/Luke/Leia/whoever else hop on a ship and do ground level work on an edventure to save the galaxy again.
Yep, this show was made for people who are looking at their phones 90% of the time. If you make the mistake of actually watching, you can't help but notice the awful pacing and complete lack of character work. I wonder if they retconned Din's character development because Pedro Pascal didn't want to be on set or vice-versa.
I can't understand how anybody can possibly write a story assuming their audience will just turn off their brain to the point of retardation. That's like assuming your teacher will be too drunk to notice how half-assed your book report is while grading it. That's not just lazy, that's contempt towards the audience.
@@pedrokantor3997 Unfortunately it works. People act like season 1 and 2 were peak story telling. I don't see see a qualitative difference in 3, its like going from a 4 to a 3 in writing. But people pitch a fit when you point out what a hack Favreau is and refuse to accept he wrote everything including Book of Boba.
It’s feeling like a lot of shows are that way now. They have to explain and exposit more and more information not for the characters but for the detached audience. Also, just bad story writing too, fixing or contriving plot holes they wrote earlier.
I see a lot of people mentioning the show being unable to leave concluded storylines. And I can't help but think of Ahsoka. She was supposed to die in Rebels (or seemingly was supposed to) but they literally pulled out time travel to save her. Where she would have died would have been fine. I adore Ahsoka, but I'm terrified of her overstaying her welcome. Seems to be the fate of everything deemed profitable...
When a character dies, we tend to look back at all their earlier appearances with a better understanding of their complete story. There's almost a reverence for their best scenes and the effect they had on the story. If a character keeps getting injected into everything and they never die or have their story concluded, you don't get to look back to their origins, they're big victories, they're failures and defeats. You don't get to see how they changed and grew and where their arcs went, because their arcs aren't finished. They haven't finished with their victories and (god forbid) failures
@@TOONYBOY I wish people would understand that about Mass Effect. I'm so tired of infants whining about Shepard's death at the end. The so-called "perfect" Destroy ending (which gives a split-second indication that he might have survived) betrays EVERYTHING that Shepard stands for both as an individual and as an icon. Synthesis is the canon ending because it is foreshadowed on multiple occasions. Shepard saved EVERYONE, at the expense of his own life, which is EXACTLY what he stood for, believed in, and fought to achieve. Trying to save his life by making him a genocidal murderer is a betrayal of everything he represents.
@@KravMagoo You had me on your side until you said Synthesis was the "canon" ending (I don't know why you said "canon" instead of "best", we don't even know that it's canon yet. Especially with the teaser for Mass Effect 4 showing a dead Reaper, implying they were destroyed and not controlled or synthesised). Synthesis isn't the best ending just because Shepard actually stays dead at the end. If that's your criteria, then Control is better since it doesn't literally forcefully assimilate all life in the galaxy and meld all organic life with cybernetic implants, and instead provides them with an unstoppable fleet of warships and full control of all their technology in case of any more extragalactic threats. Control is just as bullshit as Synthesis, don't get me wrong, but the literal ONLY reason that Destroy isn't the unquestionably most moral option is because the game contrived the "it will kill the Geth as well" rule right at the end, when not only was the Crucible built specifically to kill Reapers as per spoken dialogue throughout the game talking about how to design it so that it ONLY killed Reapers, but it literally makes no sense why it would atomize the Geth when it doesn't even destroy the Reapers, it just deactivates them and makes them collapse. If the Reaper code that gave the Geth individual awareness was what made them vulnerable to the Crucible, then the Crucible would simply destroy that code, making the Geth only intelligent in groups again. It's not even clear what that code is even supposed to improve, since the Geth were explicitly stated to be sentient and capable of speaking to organics as individuals, rather than units from when they were created 300 years ago. There's seemingly no difference between the Geth that revolted 300 years ago and the Geth upgraded with Reaper code. Also, before I continue, how was Synthesis foreshadowed? And even if it is, why did you take the Reapers' word for anything and why did you believe it would be the best option BEFORE you picked it and knew what would happen?
Also, the Destroy ending is not a genocidal murderer, and it does not betray everything he represents. Not taking the "best solution" provided by people telling him what is and isn't possible is exactly what Shepard would do. The Reapers are essentially the physical manifestations of inevitability and futility, and Shepard rejects these concepts fundamentally. He doesn't accept the ultimatum. His refusal of these defines his motivation throughout the franchise to resolve millenia-old injustices and rivalries. If the Krogan are cured, war is inevitable. The Krogan are too brutish, peaceful coexistence on a galactic scale is futile. Synthetic life will never have need or organics, war is inevitable. Peaceful coexistence is futile. The Rachni are too powerful to beat, they will overrun the galaxy. War is inevitable, peaceful coexistence is futile. The Reapers have existed for potentially over a billion years, our extinction is inevitable, the cycle cannot be broken. Fighting is futile. Shepard succeeded in all those prior ways because he refused to accept an imperfect reality, the "next-best" scenario. Shepard listening to what the Reapers (especially with everything he knows about them) tell him what the best solution is as far as *their morality* goes is only something that an indoctrinated Shepard would do. I mean, Saren believed that the cybernetics given to him *by a Reaper* were the perfect synthesis of organics and synthetics
I believe it originally was supposed to take the form of old western shows which didn’t necessary have a plot per say, but instead a cast of characters which are seen in weekly morning episodes. This worked fine until the later seasons and episodes when they tried to tell grandiose narratives of abandoned planets and lost cultures which conflicted with the original principle of the show; that there were no grandiose narratives as seen in the main films but instead a weekly theme and weekly problem with a weekly solution. A completely isolated show that just so happens to take place in such a dense world.
The Mandalorian will never be better than the Bill Burr episode, amazing pay off with the face reveal, great set pieces/fights and most of all justice for the victims of ‘Project Cinder’. NOTHING has come close to that.
@@Corvus- that’s literally the point. It’s war. One that could’ve been avoided. He’s upset but that doesn’t mean he’s just gonna let himself get shot Lmao
23:07 Almost makes the whole of disney star wars worth it for this alone. 51:35 I think by pod he meant the hovering pram he sits in that definitely cannot fit inside the naboo ship but inexplicably does.
exactly i was thinking the same thing , and then when the droid goes missing he just gets out of the ship and pressurizes his helmet and says oh well i guess ill just do it. you wasted all that time , energy and resources . I knew then this season was doomed.
Omg... "The Chunkylorian"... I laughed EVERY SINGLE TIME you said that. The Dumbalorian will never be the same for me. Great work. Now inject yourself with the Force and give us Part 2!!!
It's bittersweet to see the distressed reaction to the onboarding of R5-D2 onto the Mando crew, because it felt too similar to how I felt when I saw that scene. I can suspend my disbelief that Mando is still critical of using droids for important missions like scouting out Mandalore and has some neurosis about needing IG-11 still. But, if that's what we have to believe about Mando to go to such lengths via multiple side quests to fix him, it is INSANE to expect us to also believe he'll go "Eh, I guess this one will do" in that scene. Then, adding on top of that, being beaten over the head with the feeling that the writers do not value your time by completely invalidating an entire episode of their own show just starts off the season on an extremely sour note.
30 seconds in im already in tears with laughter, thank you Mr Platoon for once again allowing us all to laugh rather than cry at how all our favourite stories and franchises are comparable to if not worse than Cbeebies these days
weird how your not complaining to Platoon as he said it, and repeats it everytime you play this video, I just agreed, as is my right to have an opinion.
Mandolorians used to be such an interesting culture and people-group. A proud people that incorporated war into their daily lives. And now they're mentioned in passing. They're a group of maybe a hundred people that aren't fleshed out at all. The only thing that happened between the two attitudes was Disney.
The Clone Wars 2008--the paragon of "quality writing"--is what destroyed the Mandalorians. The very thing that 'fans' extol as the peak of star wars (EU) is the very thing ruining most of Star Wars.
@@matane2465 Even though George Lucas was there, and not every episode was written by him, the other writers did the contribution here. Also, The Clone Wars can coincide with the films, it just doesn’t need to be made beat for beat in the Prequels, just as a subtle wink. Heck there are multitude of new characters running around that may be fun to watch around. It’s irksome, but…
Because Yoda's species seem to be extremely rare, and because they're longlived they probably rarely have offspring. Whereas the regular standard humanoid species of the Star Wars galaxy are a dime a dozen and have tons of children. Statistically they will breed more force-sensitive kids, it's only a matter of time.
@CrunchyFrog But everybody who's at rhe jedi temple had a high enough count to become a jedi, and since midichlorians can be passed on genetically there would be escape plans for all or most of them if the idea was breeding more jedi. Not to mention that humans breed and develop faster, so relying only on Grogu would be self defeating, especially given that it will take him at least 100yrs to be old enough to breed.
To be fair the Naboo guard asked about the others so they were definitely expecting Beq to bring more younglings but Grogu was the only one he could get out.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Could go either way, the other jedi may have been gathering up as many younglings as they could find. Eventually decided Grogu was the only one they could send off safely.
An outstanding documentary. The saddest part is that this documentary is more entertaining than the subject it analyzes by an order of magnitude. Entertaining, educational, and at times hilarious. Job well done!
By the amount they apply Mando's "wistle" it doesn't feel like a character's theme but rather like some pavlovian experiment. So they can trigger nostalgic feelings only with the sound of a wistle, 5 years from now 😂
I wondered less about where the Armorer got the ore she is always smelting but where they are getting the fuel to run the forge that is never turned off.
Hey LP, just wanted to say thank for your Rings of Power videos. Your recommendation inspired me to pick up a copy of The Silmarillion and I've enjoyed it so far. Keep up the great work!
I havent watched book of boba so seeing grogu in the first minute of season 3 after the sick set up with luke in the previous episode just sucked away my love for this show
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Bo-katan (in the mando, I heard in clone wars she's actually well written) is just a horrible character who keeps getting rewarded throughout season 3. (neither of these lists are exhaustive) Horrible human being >Betrays mando the first time they meet, forcing him to do something he didn't agree to after he already completed his end of the deal. (oh but I guess extortion is "the way") >Never discloses her true intentions to, supposedly, save Mandalore, to Mando, the guy who is basically defined by his literal religious conviction to Mandalore. This combined with the fact that she CLEARLY is considering killing him to take the blade once he gets it first, makes it clear she doesn't actually care about Mandalore, she just wants the throne. >To further reinforce this, once Din DOES have the blade, she doesn't ask him to lead the mandalorians to establish a new age of Mandalore, she goes back, alone, to attempt to justify her rule anyway >When everyone DOES leave her she, instead of doing anything else that would make her a functioning member of society, sits her ass on an abandonded throne, alone. She'd rather rot on an abandoned throne cold and alone than be a functioning member of society. >She openly admits to not believing anything she preached and only lying about it to keep her status and stay in good graces with the people she rules and even her own family. In other terms, she's willing to lie through her teeth about her deepest convictions, even to her own fucking father, to maintain power and authority. Rewarded >She gets to violate "the way" by the most extreme and strict upholder of it, the forgemaster >She gets to see the mystical deity monster thing >She gets the darksabre (which, according to the legend, Mando won fair and square) >She gets to rule >She gets blindly accepted >She gets basically everything She is a plainly horrible person, and the show just seems to be willfully ignorant of this fact. It was bad enough when her extorting and betraying Din was "the way" apparently, but at least then she was just a stupid once-off character, season 3 has her as literally the main character.
Her arc in Clone Wars isn't much either. Bo-Katan's introduced as the second-in-command of the terrorist group trying to kill the ruler of Mandalore (her sister) and invoke the violent warrior ways of the past. Once Maul killed the group leader and takes over, she and her allies abandon the group as they'd rather an actual Mandalorian rule the planet, not a Sith. She helps Obi-Wan escape the planet as she'd rather he have the Republic fleet invade Mandalore and kill Maul. A year later, nothing, so she uses Ahsoka to get in contact with Obi-Wan, and guilt-trips him into helping Mandalore, as he loved her sister, despite Bo-Katan being the reason her sister died. She also pulls a "so what?" about the possibility that doing so would cause another war. Once Mandalore is freed, she feels directionless at the sight of the suffering her people were put through. In Rebels, it's shown that she and her allies have made zero headway trying to retake Mandalore from the Empire, so they've been focusing on destroying other imperial operations on the planet. Because she's one of the few Mandalorians that still possess qualities of a leader and emotional maturity, Bo-Katan is given the Darksaber by Sabine, as she feels Bo-Katan is more qualified than her to unite the Mandalorian clans and retake the planet.
I love the actress, i seen her other work, and she makes for a great action hero. But, i also feel like her character Bo, has been giving everything without she doing anything substantial to gain such praises. I think, she should have been introduced as a lone wolf, abandoned by the pack, her and mando butting heads about what a true mando is. We see a woman full of guilt and shame, but hiding it behind a tough exterior, in which both grogu and din eventually help her get through. But, she continues to doubt herself and rightfully so, as she is struggling to care about anything. As she learns that grogu has been taken by moth gideon, she decides to help din and this could have been a great opportunity for her to kill moth gideon, but this only fuels her anger, and she leaves mando with the darksaber. By the time we get to season 3, she finds out that gideon has survived, (cloning), but instead convinces din to pursue his fate to lead the mandalorians... i know din wasnt written to be a leader, but that would have been a great theme and character conflict to explore in season 4. But, anyways, thats how i think her story in this series should have been written.
Nah, she was an awful bitch in The Clone Wars as well. She was a literal terrorist (as opposed to a freedom fighter like, say, the rebellion) who did a bunch of awful things and only felt bad for them because they blew up in her face and got her terrorist leader boss/idol killed, her sister killed, and her planet turned into a conquered territory when someone else outplayed them in terms of evil jack assery. She never once does anything to ever really repent for some of the awful terrorist things she does like burning down a village after it very politely (not sarcasm, they were seriously super polite and diplomatic about asking her boss to 'please sir stop doing these things to us') asked her boss to please stop enslaving their women. She does stop doing it by the time she shows up in Rebels, but its never really made clear if she had a change of heart or if she just realized the Empire wouldn't give two shits about her harassing civilians like the Republic had and so she pragmatically focused on military targets they would care about being hit. Unless by well written you mean 'the story doesn't try to pretend she isn't an awful person', in which case yeah she was much more well written in TCW.
@@TravisHi_YT Shovelware is a perfect way to describe Disney shows at this point. Can no longer handle the filler bullcrap honestly next Bad Batch season I´ll only watch plot focused episodes
While Andor was limited in its scope, I think it was handled better than just about any filmed story in SW. I think that was mainly because it makes zero attempts to fan service children.
And this is just the first four episodes! The intro covers a lot of the background and meta observations about the show as a whole, though, so it’s not purely damning of season three.
@@TheLittlePlatoon It was a thoughtful start. I agree with you broadly, but you are wrong on a few points. For example, massive decommissioning and destruction of war material has followed all of our major wars. Small arms were often destroyed. Armored vehicles were stored or sold. Same for aircraft though they were more often stored than sold. Ships. Many ships were decommissioned. Pretty much all navy ships are decommissioned even when they are sold on to friendly governments. The owners or captors of ships tend to rip out and keep the sensitive equipment. Most warships are so expensive to operate that many are sold to friends, scrapped, sunk in weapons tests or left tied to docks. All of those individual decisions come with their own massive implications. Many ships are scrapped in Turkey, but would you scrap a nuclear carrier in Turkey? How many people in the world are even qualified to scrap a reactor? How many of them aren't Chinese or Russian? Star Wars never gives context to anything but context is unbelievably important to any decision regarding war material. WW2 German ships, for economic reasons unique to Nazi Germany, used vastly different boilers and fuels to allied ships. This made them pigs to maintain and more trouble to keep than they were worth to keep. One captured German ship almost blew up while underway because its American crew did not know how to run the boilers. Media analysts have common sense but they do not always know the technical details that would inform their common sense criticisms. I love talking about this stuff, and I mean no disrespect. If you want more information, I'd talk to you or I'd recommend you watch your fellow countrymen Dr. Alexander Clarke and Drachinifel here on RUclips. Happy critiquing.
@@iivin4233 I'd like to throw in my worth of cents. Countries scaling their militaries down is not in and of itself an axiom that follows every war, it's a consequence of their required commitments scaling down, it's npot worth to keep Napoleonic Wars era armada around if most of your Navy's work is show of the flag and piracy-policing. One would presume that that New Republic's way of governing the galaxy would require less resources, but it is counterbalanced by them not inheriting the Imperial Navy intact, some of it would dissolve via warlordship, some would follow whatever proto-First Order authority, some would enrich galactic black market selection and so on. Either way, if you do get your hands on an ISD you can operate - you keep it. If you still want to decomission them though, Coruscant is still not the place to do it. The foreign technology espionage argument is, imo, invalid due to lack of truly "foreign" agents, since OT takes place during a civil war in an undisputed galactic hegemony. As far as location itself - if the the Space Turkey makes little sence, so does Space Manhattan - but luckily we are not limited to these two locations, Kuat Drive Yards is alive and well in Disney version of the universe. They desgined and built the things and, makes sense to me, know a thing or two about scrapping them. And they also could lend expertise required to run those, shouold you keep them.
The scene where mando wears a helmet when doing a face scan genuinely baffled me when I first saw it, honestly couldn’t understand how a team of professional filmmakers, writers and producers decided that it makes perfect sense for him to do that, but at this point, Hollywood doesn’t even care, and so do I.
I don't understand its context, but I suspect the face scan has even less security than current biometric face recognition. As in, it only needed _a_ human face, not a/multiple _specific_ faces. It's Highlander: The Source all over again.
@@neocomp92 the context is that mando can’t take off his helmet because his religion says so? And yeah we do have better tech already, but I wouldn’t mind that, just don’t make your main character look like an absolute imbecile when he’s supposed to be a skilled bounty hunter, doesn’t make any sense.
Hahahaha, the little whistle thing that plays whenever Mando does anything pissed me off so much during season 3. Happy to see someone else notice it lol. I get that they want like a "chime" but GODDAMN
Wait, how can Grogu have spent *years* training with Luke? The crime boss part of Boba Fett was just after season 2 of Mandalorian and all those flashbacks were either before or during Mandalorian? Boba hadn't been in power for months, let alone years. If he had, that would make him *even more* stupidly written than presented in his show.
@@santi_super_stunts2573 It couldn't have even been a year. There's no way Boba Fett was in power for anywhere near that long before making the big decisions that led to the showdown with that drug cartel and people wouldn't have been walking all over him like that if he was properly established. It just doesn't add up.
Jon Favreau himself said in an interview that Grogu spent 2 years training with Luke, so I would say there is nothing to debate about that. But it sure does seem that the developments on Tattooine in Boba Fett took a lot less time than that.
@@ricardob.6924 That's the thing though, his word is contradicted by what the series itself shows. Maybe that was the ideal, but if that's the case, why it Luke's temple a work in progress with just a shack? I suspect, that a couple of years is he *wanted* to do, but it's *not* what happened *Maybe* if Boba, Fennec, and Din had an adventure or 2 before Boba decided, "ya know what, I'mma go bust a cap in Bib Fortuna" or something to occupy Boba's time before his crime boss era started, that'd be one thing, but that didn't happen
35:50 I'm legitimately crying from what you just did there! Ho my God!!😂🤣 Oh, that was funnier than anything Grogu tried to do that was considered cute this season.
Rogue one actually managed to bring the fear of light sabers back in the 2 minute Vader scene. They went from the equivalent of a pool noodle with damage equivalent to a 5yo with a sockem bopper to an actual weapon capable of killing people again
@@tosutaa Indeed, they also made the empire not look like brainless idiots for once. It infuriates me just how not threatening the empire is, when these are people who would glass a planet just to make a point. It's such a shame that instead of the gritty war movie that the original director wanted to make we got half of that and half Marvel.
Good to see you do this. At first, I was amused with the awful writing, but once Lizzo and Jack Black showed up, it became offensively bad. I can no longer enjoy making fun of it. It just hinders all forms of positive thought in me.
Watching Mandalorian season 3 after watching Andor was like eating at KFC the day after eating at a 5 star restaurant. Andor set the bar high and I expect every other SW series to be unable to reach that bar
You should try a KFC in Japan. Or any fast-food joint there. Actually there are good KFC's in the USA as well, depends on the owner/ manager/and crew. Where it is located. Andor? Well if you like it, fine. Gives off too many ANTIFA vibes for me.
@@chrisperrien7055 nah it gives more Battle of Algiers/The Troubles in Northern Ireland vibes which were actual uprising against colonialist powers. Anarkiddies are a bunch of larpers who would never be capable of pulling of what the rebels accomplish in Andor
@@chrisperrien7055 nah it gives more Battle of Algiers/The Troubles in Northern Ireland vibes which were actual uprising against colonialist powers. Anarkiddies are a bunch of larpers who would never be capable of pulling of what the rebels accomplish in Andor
@@chrisperrien7055 KFC in Japan barely differs from KFC elsewhere. It's similarly too oily to taste. Fast food restaurants don't care much for quality, even in Japan. Don't know what you're talking about. The Empire clearly parallels facism and the full destructive effects on everyone, something that has barely been addressed in Star Wars proper. Being against facism in a Star Wars show should be a standard, a universal good, especially as the wars focus around multiple rebellions all across the galaxy fighting the Empire. Those vibes you speak of just add to it and the universal world building. What are you talking about?
Though I applaud your statement, and agree with you wholeheartedly… That’s like saying that Nimitz has a challenger in Nelson. We should just be eternally, grateful that we have two minds, like these, which go beyond even razor fist and the critical drinker
What I want to know is how both Reva and Grogu survived Operation Knightfall, despite the Jedi Temple being ground zero for the Jedi purge. If they were on different planets, that's one thing, but the Jedi in the temple were massacred. Like, straight up.
BS retcon thats what, before the Disney retcon, the only Jedi capable of escaping the Jedi Temple during the Purge would be Shak Ti, "Shaak Ti was assigned to protect the Jedi Temple in the final days of the war as the threat of the hidden Dark Lord of the Sith became clear. Stationed there during the initiation of Operation: Knightfall, Ti escaped with her life when the Temple and the Republic fell into the hands of the Sith Lords". Consider that unlike the rest of the fodder Jedi at the Temple, Shaak Ti had experience in the Clone Wars and despite jobbing to Grievous, unlike Grievous other victims, Shaak Ti survived as Grievous was in a rush to grab palps and get out before mace windu arrived, Shaak Ti was also pretty much 4th to 3rd as a Council Master, explaining how realistically consideering Anakin was busy killing other masters, younglings, etc... Shaak Ti would´ve likely survived the Purge as Clones would just be fodderized the instant Force powers come into play. Reva and Grogu however would never survive Order 66 unless Palps orders them to be spared, Anakin would absolutely not fail killing Reva either.
For Reva, she faked her death, as she has a secret, natural, gaping hole through her body. She's not actually human. She's Chestholian. That's why she survives it both times with no problems.
Great stuff. Made me look at the whole Mandalorian series a lot differently as well as Boba and And/or. You made me laugh so hard all throughout too. SUBSCRIBED.
One of the things about which S1 was praised was Pascal's acting through and around the helmet. The subtle head shifts, the way he'd look at everything straight-on, the tilts, turns, etc... to convey emotion. I've seen whole video essays on this. WHY they thought they could throw a different actor into the suit and ADR his lines and achieve the same character is beyond me. Yes, Darth Vader was body + ADR by different actors, but they were always the same! Prowse's movements remained consistant, and when they eventually DID put someone else in the suit, it felt different (though less jarring since there's like 30 years between performances).
He was rarely ever in the suit, though he was on occasion. From season one forward, most of the physical Mandalorian is not Pascal. Howard even talks about how funny it was that she never met him while making her season one episode.
I feel like "the Empire blowed it up because they're bad" isn't that good an explanation, it's more just a way for Filoni suck all the nuance and moral uncertainty out of Order 66 so he can keep playing with his action figures without having to acknowledge that they murdered all the Jedi.
I loved it when you said "because no one stayed through to the END of Boba Fett (I refer to series as BETA FETT). and I laughed so hard, because Its soo true. I definitely did not stay through to the End. I lasted 3-4 episodes, and completely forgot about it... till much later, and was told how it ended, so i never felt like i needed to go back and watch it. LOL.
Didnt bother watching a single full episode, people are Right about "cameos" being relevant for audience grabbing in Star Wars now, People laughed at Darth Maul´s appearance at the end of Solo, but now we get similar s*** in every star wars show, first example Cade Bane dead by unfinished episodes of Clone Wars, believe it or not Boba was supposed to have already killed him. Now instead of dying in Grace just like Maul, Cade Bane is used for Cameos in OT and before eras in Boba Fett and Bad Batch. People really dont get why George wanted him dead in Clone Wars, but I´ll spell it out for Disneytards, IT´S CASE CLONE WARS BOUNTY HUNTERS LIKE CADE BANE TAKE AWAY FROM OT BOUNTY HUNTERS LIKE VALLANCE, you cant have a good star wars show now, case they keep shoving that Prequel stuff up the OT´s ass and it´s destroying that Era, these Clone Wars characters should´ve been killed DECADES AGO!
They never explain why Bo Katan never challenged Mando to a fight. It wouldn't even need to be to the death, as she demonstrates when she retakes control of her army. Which raises two questions now. Why did she not challenge Mando to a fight the second they handed Moff Gideon over to the new Republic, and why did she not challenge her second in command to a fight the nanosecond he tried to seize control of her army because she did not challenge Mando? Hell, Mando tried to give the Darksaber to her. So if tradition demanded a fight I'm sure he'd be down to just fight her over and over again until she wins. Who knows, she might even win on the first try, since she gave Gideon the Darksaber as part of Mandalore's surrender to the empire... so he never beat her in combat. Meaning that Mando never truly owned the Darksaber in the first place and since this is already insanely convoluted, again, *they can just fight* and sort out any doubts. And they all conveniently forgot to mention Darth Maul was the previous true(ish) owner of the Darksaber and Ahsoka beat him (kind of, Maul kept on trying to turn Ahsoka to his side when he could have just killed her). So why aren't the Mandalorians trying to kill her? Does Bo Katan view force users as unfair challengers and therefore unable to claim the Darksaber? Well fun fact, we have no idea! It's like this plot is chasing its own tail so fast that it's creating a black hole.
its symbolic for castrating yourself and giving all power to a woman... this show predicts the future where men are taking care of children, while women go away to pursue power and resources its made by a corporation to educate children into new ways of society its funny that grown men are watching this searching for some meaning
I believe that when Jon started the mandolorian series his plan was to be done with grogu in season 2 and then kk saw the money and took over Boba and brought him back then Dave and kk took over the Mando show
I think they wrote a bit of this specifically to be cut up for a trailer. Bo Katan sullenly sitting on a throne! Mando walking away! Lots of mandos fighting a croc! They are 3 second scenes that would make you think there is a lot of interesting stuff behind those bits but there is not.
I mean Palpatine survived the entire second Death Star exploding around him so IG88 surviving a Thermal Detonator isn't that implausible right? Ha ha... ha ha... :(
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Overthinking this stuff is what gave you a small dick
This show fucking stupid. This 50 year old baby contradicts yoda saying he was training Jedi for 800 years. Why do we need to see dinosaurs in Star Wars. They have zero idea of how the mandalorian culture works
Must feel good to know you probably saved many people from suffering through this trash. Way to make a difference! This show has become soul-crushing.
I know I’m leagues late @TheLittlePlatoon but cloning was entirely decimated in universe because of every single kaminoan city being bombarded till turned into scrap. You see it happen in the bad batch. Idr if it came out before S3 or not of the Mandalorian but that’s generally it for why cloning disappeared.
Lack of vision? I've noticed this type of stuff in alot of shows lately, that it takes forever for them to introduce the plot, and they do when the show is almost over.
In Mando’s case I’m pretty sure it’s because they just don’t have much plot to introduce. They clearly had more ideas for Bo Katan’s arc, but found themselves in the weird position of being held back by their two main characters.
@@TheLittlePlatoon kinda? It's like they aborted Bo Katan's arc halfway and gave her Din's instead.
I actually think this season had a vision behind it. The finale ends to what the second episode and previous seasons were setting up. But the procession from setup to payoff had to be crammed mostly to the second, fourth, seventh and eighth episodes, because about half the season was filler.
@The Little Platoon they finished Mando's story in season 2. They may as well have just quit while they were ahead and made a Bo Katan show
When I went to college, if someone was in a Frat or Sorority, they literally copied off each other on everything, they rarely ever actually did their own homework or passed a class on their own merit. I feel that I am now seeing the conclusion and Quality of what my fellow classmates put into their effort in learning...and seeing it put into expression and motion on the big screen now a days. That or its because of the D.E.I. hires, and the complete LACK of MERIT now a days in the Hollywood and Entertainment industry... if your gay, trans, leftist, or black, or female, you get those 5-6 promotions before a White Person or Male. and if your a white male ... your fng screwed. But something is causing our Entertainment industry to be completely pathetic and just a heaping pile of dumpster fire Woke Trash.
@@TheLittlePlatoon Personally, I think it comes from a dislike/rebellion against basic story telling and plot structure. Everyone seems to want to do their own thing, their own way.
"The writers have taken the shows popularity for granted." That is a very very apt description of season 3.
I think KK wrote it and never told anyone. She was hoping that when everyone liked it, she could say "AHA! I wrote that! You liked it because you thought it wasn't me! See? I'M not the problem! You're all just sexist!"
The only reason I think this is cus...well...every man is a fool, every woman is a god, and you only get to take your mask or helmet off if you're not white. Except Jack Black...who they hid behind a massive beard the moment they found out that he's not really black.
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a very apt description of the star wars franchise as a whole after disney got their hands on it....
Mandalorian combat training seems to be based on running towards your enemy, cycling through your range of weapons and gadgets with little to no effect until you're standing right next to them.
Their tactics especially started to piss me off when they retook Navarro. Why were they on the streets? They have jetpacks, they could be jumping from roof to roof constantly with a bird’s eye view. How did they ever get flanked or pinned down? Again, *they have jetpacks,* if anything they should be the ones outflanking the pirates.
'Member star wars battle front? I 'member.
@@Slender_Man_186Yeah that shit pissed me off as well😅
It’s too bad we cant imagine more interesting fights, like anti-air weapons that would keep you on the ground or a heavily armored enemy that’s vulnerable to tripping. SW just can’t do those things
That sounds like how combat works in MMOs tbh. Minus the standing right next to enemies part - kiting is generally preferred to doing a leeroy jenkins.
Remember in Boba Fett? When Boba slipped away from the battle with the big shielded droids? And instead of getting Slave I, a ship with ION CANNONS (specifically meant to disable shields), he fetched a hairless King Kong so we could have a scene with Grogu using the Force?
So much of that show was just comically bad.
Ok but I thought it was really cool to have the rancor payoff, and it was so much more fun watching it brawl with the droids than have Boba Fett fly in and shoot stuff.
It was terrible in the logic of the scene but it did show at least something of a link to the past of Mandalorians being beast riders (Mythosaurs and Basilisk war droids). But it then made me immediately angry because it just showed that Fett, not Bo Katan should be the next Mandalor but we can't have nice things. Surely his time with the Sand People should have reminded him if the lessons of his father about their Mandalorian heritage and have time for Boba to realise his father was right and he should become the Mandalorian he had refused all his life in favour of being a bounty hunter. But we can't have nice things.
The writers of BOBF were probably more concerned that using "Slave I" labor was "problematic." :)))
Here is a fascinating thing, how a certain type of person clearly rages on the left, but indulges in their tactics of shadowbanning. You Sir are an absolute shower and a cad.
This opened my third eye.
The plot of Mandolorian works because the writers know you’re probably just on your phone 90% of the time. They know you’re only like half paying attention, so they only write like half of a story.
If you write stories that are being told a thousand times before, why blame it on attention spans? Adapt or die
@@Dionysos_____Alters Oh my God bro no way you’re making this point.
Feeding social behaviors proliferate them, especially when you’re THE massive media conglomerate that basically owns the entertainment industry. They’re not “adapting or dying”, they’re the one’s fucking causing it.
@@Dionysos_____Altersthis is an insane argument. ‘Adapt or die’ to ppl not watching your show except glancing over for a few seconds from their phone, you can’t possible be arguing that is how shows should work. There’s plenty huge shows that have come out that are popular becuz they have engaged and attracted people’s attention and investment enough where they don’t feel like going on their phone. A hard feat sure, but there’s no way you want shows to act like baby-sensory videos that are jiggling the keys in front of you like you have no brain capacity besides ‘oh cool shiny thing’. Thats not how tv series work.
This became pretty damn obvious with the bird episode, they spent a whole episode saving some random Mando kid from a giant bird, no character development, no stakes, no real engagement besides big battle and Bo Katan being ‘accepted’, but not rlly any more than she already was, and she never actually proves herself. Anyways, I don’t understand the hate the New Republic episode got, that was some fantastic writing despite the slow pace and very mundane/minimalist setting/plot, it was riveting the character and intrigue and mystery they were developing, like a small hard-boiled thriller/crime plot
@@GuineaPigEveryday It has fuckall to do with the Mandolorian.
If you were watching New Hope, and then like the second act was entirely replaced with Raiders of the Los Ark, that’s not good writing, that’s jarring and disconnected.
I remember when Mandalorians were the absolute most elite fighters one could possibly imagine. The only non-Force sensitives to actually stand a chance when fighting a Jedi (with a select few even having multiple Jedi kills). Their entire kit was built around quick, tactical thinking. They have the best tool for the job on hand at all times, as well as the knowledge of which tool to use. Most importantly, they have the collected mind in the midst of chaos that allows them to determine which of their tools is the best and what option is the best. A Mandalorian in combat is meant to be a foe greater than any other, who can alternative seamlessly between unleashing a barrage of surprise attacks and dodging every attack you can muster. A foe even Jedi fear to face.
But apparently a big lizard comes along and all that goes out the window because "big and scary" and every Mandalorian in sight just does stupid crap at random.
well written.
...and people get upset when creators appear to despise Star Wars-fans. Even I _can't stand you_ and I'm one of you ffs.This has _never ever_ been a universe of realistic tactical combat, it's theatre fencing from square one. It's a swashbuckling adventure where people swing from chandeliers and duel the monologuing villain. The Stormtroopers are the most elite fighting force in the galaxy _until they fire at Robin Hood and his Merry Men,_ how many decades will it take for you to get it?
@@infantiltinferno You're a complete moron, clearly not someone that actually watched the OT (let alone had any positive feelings towards it), and interacting with you beyond this point would be a complete waste of my time.
@@infantiltinfernoAnd how long will it take for you to understand that that's a result of later creators misunderstanding the movies and taking popular memes and making them real parts of the story?
@@infantiltinferno so you do not want them to be consistent within the lore/canon of an established franchise? storm trooper were NOT the most elite, that was the CLONE troopers who were clones of a quasi Mandalorian (technically a mando kind of) death troopers were the elite of elites in the empire AKA the black armor guys from rogue one.
when you cannot keep your own story consistent with other stories within a connected universe you take people out of the immersion of the show and thus they start to notice the cracks in its "storytelling". the mandos WERE IN CANON the pinnicle of tactical warfare and combat, some of the best fighters in the galaxy due to exactly what the OP typed.
the creators HATE nerds because we actually give a fuck about these franchises and the characters/stories within them and thus we want you to fucking do it justice and actually try. wana know why many enjoy the prequels despite their flaws? because at the core of the prequels the heart and soul of star wars is there, and it had something to say and executed that vision well (minus the romance dialogue lol and the first half of attack of the clones) and the prequels in a shorter amount of time told more of a story than ahsoka/mando have done with their run times.
its also why most people hate the sequels, theres not even a nugget of good to be gained from them, except for one small scene that gave rey a humanizing quality... that scene where she see's rain for the first time.... thats all the sequels did that made you feel anything positive besides seeing the ending credits.
you also fail to understand that even robin hood took its self more seriously than disney did with star wars, robin hood: men in tights told a story with characters you love that was also well written... and that was a comedy, where it followed its own lore/rules and characters did not break character for the plot.... what you said is just as retarded as saying "why are you taking this so seriously?! its just a kids movie around space wizards fighting space nazis!" its such a purposely ignorant stance to take and highly dismissive of others simple because YOU do not understand them or agree with them OR you do not like that they poke holes through something you enjoyed.
The whole "ran out of fuel" thing is such a contrivance, given how one of them literally flies into space using his jetpack in a later episode...
Had an argument on reddit about this. Someone said from the ground to space is like 60 miles, and said its not unreasonable that they chased the dragon at least that far.
Completely ignoring the fact that they apparently chase the thing enough to know it always gets away.
So why do they let the thing just snatch people up if they know it does so? Why do they have to chase it at all when they could just stay in the cave? Or have their other mandalorians keep watch for the thing? All stuff that would make the mandalorians at least not stupid, but to the average mando fan it doesn't matter at all. Right over their heads.
@@jeebtheweeb The cap ship in the later episode appeared to be in a high orbit, which is like 100 mi or more. Regardless, you are spot-on with regard to having no one on lookout/watch duty, given the presence and knowledge of large hostile animals...
The energy it would take to fly a person to space... Nobody working on Star Wars properties passed astronomy.
@@iivin4233 studied astronomy??? My guy it’s Star Wars!! We have Death Star lasers and lightspeed ships and wizards!
@@iivin4233 Good point - it's not just about the distance covered - he'd need to reach escape velocity...
Funny part is Mando’s Season 3 first episode was lower in viewership ratings than Book of Boba Fett 😂
Where do you find those numbers?
@@piersonchristensen8836on the interwebsss.
@@piersonchristensen8836 The viewership numbers was gotten from Samba TV since Disney+ doesn't reveal their numbers. The Mandolarian's third season debut got 1.5 million views when compared to the season 2 premiere of 2.08 million views.
Nope, according to minutes, watched it beat out mando and season 2.
Not surprised after BOBF
59:19 Okay, so, in Katee Sackhoff’s defense, she is mimicking the mannerisms of the animated character whom she also voiced. When she originally voiced the character, she was far more expressive than how they ultimately animated her; Katee has to hold back when the hemet is off because Bo canonically isn’t very expressive.
I totally agree! And calling her botox karen is just dehumanising and incredibly disrespectful. It sometimes really feels like these youtube essay creators spend so much time nitpicking every aspect of a thing that they actually forgets to go out and socialise to a point where they stop seeing everyone working on said thing as just people. This show is not made by Disney the mega corporation, its made by hundreds of people who worked really hard. Is it worth criticising? Absolutely! But this is just more of the same retorik that has plagued this fanbase since the prequels. Stop dehumanising the actors. I really thought we learned this a long time ago with people like Ahmed Best And Hayden Christensen who just did what the director told them to do.
@@gee-es The show definitely has plenty of flaws and shortcomings, but her acting definitely isn’t one of them. There’s actually an interview of Katee expressing her frustration with playing Bo. Basically, she loves the character, but feels like she can only act with the helmet on since Bo is so expressionless. Like, that’s not the actress’s fault whatsoever. That’s how the character is.
Reminds me of what you said. People complained about Hayden Christensen’s acting, but he was actually pretty darn brilliant. The issue was with some of the dialogue and the movies’ runtime. Even George Lucas had to tell folks to stop, saying “it’s not Hayden’s acting you dislike. What you dislike is Anakin Skywalker.” And he was absolutely right. Being upset with how Anakin was written is totally fair, but Hayden did exactly what was asked of him.
He isn’t criticizing the actor by calling her Botox Karen, he’s criticizing the writing and characterization of her. Obviously she can do the character if the acting is better when the helmet is on. They should stop clinging to ‘this is how the character was when it was animated so it has to be exactly like that in live action’, especially if something different serves to better the end project. Katee is great and I hope if she does see criticism of Bo-Katan that she doesn’t internalize it as criticism of her.
That's a mistake. The show doesn't care about her past, so neither should she care about acting like a cgi marionette.
@@alexhayden219I don't know how acting works in this respect but I'm fairly sure you can't just... ignore the director and do your own thing. Mark Hamill had the same complaints about old Luke, but he still did it. You can't ignore who's paying you in most jobs.
That cut to Kylo's "No, you're still holding on! Let go!" made me lose my shit! 🤣Well played sir!
same here 🤪
Bro was spitting fax, though
That's some funny shit! I sort of love that the only things that will remain of the sequels are the memes.
His editing is getting more and more clever here.
A timestamp in a 2hr+ video would be nice.
Multi-hour analysis of SW and Marvel shows and movies by well-spoken british men is my comfort zone and I'm all for it, thanks Platoon
Is the other channel you like, by chance, Mauler? :3
This also applies to Jay… and the Drinker if you count his streams…
@@98765zach shi you right, forgot about Jay for half a second there
Diebetos would disagree with you.
The Drinker, Mauler, Disparu, Little Platoon, lovely.
10:46 I mean it's all well and good for Mando to fly a modified Naboo fighter *immediately* after the Razor Crest is destroyed, simply on the basis that it's far better than having no ship at all. But if he's going to continue being a bounty hunter yet also keep the starfighter, he needs something bigger to dock it on. Something that can actually have holding cells for the prisoners he captures.
Holding cells aren't even the most important part, is he just sitting in that chair, unmoving, no bed, no bathroom, in the many multi-day travel sessions he's been shown to take!?! Or is he just limiting his flight plans to half day jumps!?!?!
I agree. I was hoping they would do something similar to the twilight in the clone wars. Old bucket of bolts ship with a dock for a fighter and it's pre-empire like the razor crest.
Grogu certainly didnt need to come back and im gonna die on that hill, his arc was over. And i wanna see more of din djarin than just him being space joel, tlou, Logan, The witcher, Im getting kind of tired of super tough dad narratives(mostly because its the only thing it allows the character to be) . Even Rebels had the whole family dynamic already.
Yup. Season 2 should have been the end of his journey, at least for a while. Send him off with Luke, leave the audience wondering how that all panned out, let Mando find some sort of purpose/job/reason to be.
An essential part of being a good dad is letting go of your kid. And an essential part of good storytelling is not immediately and unceremoniously backtracking on significant emotional payoffs... such as a dad letting go of his kid...
@@TheLittlePlatoon Mando got several dozen fetch quests AND got to explain the plot to Gro-...uh, the audience! Plus he gets to rejoin the Way after one of the fetch quests and also after being saved by a woman half his size! I can't wait for season 4 when he explains to Grogu how orange man bad and helps a backwoods planet legalize abortion!
@@TheLittlePlatoon Do you know what bothers me more and more about the way Star Wars stories are written? Its their careless use of language.
Mandalorians have "clans". "Clan" implies a distant familial connection between members. These clans control an indeterminate amount of people in The Mandalorian. In prior lore, individual clans colonized whole planets as early as the 3000 years before Episode 4.
Would 3000 years worth of people maintain a sense of familial identity?
This careless use of words bothers me, but I think it has subconsciously bothered millions of fans ever since the Trade Federation appeared as a force for evil maybe, with an independent army maybe, in a republic with no army seemingly, run by an autocratic question mark, named a viceroy...okay, whose goal was to overthrow a queen you follow, of a whole planet you see, who is democratically elected I guess, which is a common enough concept in the galaxy that it shows up twice in the narrow slice of its story that we experience.
A viceroy with no Rex. An Inquisition with no inquests or religion or popular or political backing. A Trade Federation that does not seem to have any federated entities and does not trade.
But it has an army. Meanwhile the Republic does not.
Silliness.
It is impossible to comprehend stories written this way except on a surface level.
Absolutely. When i heard he was in the 3rd season, it let out all the helium I had in the Mandalorian Balloon....probably why I didnt even care if a 3rd season was even made. I was happy with 2 seasons, it told a good story up to that point. I am completely done with Grogu... i could have been interested in seeing him actually able to walk 20ft on his own on the next time i saw him on screen ... but to see a stupid little bobble head puppet again for another full season ... nope. I had no interest.
"Navarro has turned into a lovely, thriving little spaceport. It's main export would appear to be...Easter eggs."
Well played.
once they brought in baby yoda, the show was done. sacrificing a tense story about Mandalorians for cuteness. selling out = game over
Exactly
Yeah Grogu wasn’t a national phenomenon for a year with great press or anything.
Not the first time Disney and other producers have pulled this mind trick.
I don't think Baby Yoda is inherently bad, but the inability of the show to let go of Baby Yoda is. The logical and emotionally satisfying endpoint of Grogu's narrative is him leaving with Luke as Mando continues the narrative without him. Can't continue the story without Grogu? Then end it there
But whoever made the show didn't have the guts to stick to their guns. Baby Yoda had to come back because they decided he was too 'iconic' to let go
@@cogsworther1639 agree, but also baby Yoda couldn't stay with Luke because of the sequels.
Disney saw the popularity of Grogru and wrote the mandalorian around it, at first it seemed like a bounty Hunter tv show. Now it’s just weird with no vision
you have spoken
its sad to remember watching the first episode and going from "ooh, this is one annoying danny de vito alien" to "shit, this is real star wars finally!!!"
But it's not Grogu making it weird! It's all the damn cameos and suddenly filling the show with a load of lore and characters from other stories. Grogu is fine! Grogu is great, in fact! He's one of the few remnants of the original show, before it just became a launchpad for a bunch of cash-grab spinoffs, and a way to continue stories from years ago, rather than create a new story.
Grogu is the new Steve Urkel
@@ashscott6068 it was his inclusion that made the climax of season two completely irrelevant. At least partly
@@nickm8874 They just reversed everything back.
Mando isn´t a Mandalorian anymore...and now he is again
Grogu isn´t part of Mando´s story anymore...and now he is again
What will he do with the sword?...nevermind, it´s back to the former owner
Mandalorian really feels as if it was a script written for a video-game. All the sidequestst, how they introduce new things, combat sequences etc.
And not a very good video game, either!
Wasn't a script, it was a lazy storyboard by favreau
No writers in sight
Which is why they're striking
But hey, who needs accuracy any more, so long as they pander to your opinions 😂
Yah..no one likes video games...yah lol
I wish they would have made a GTA type game with the plot from the show.
I said this since the first few episodes of season 1. Mando is a perfect video game protagonist in a video game setting. Hunt bounties and upgrade your gear just like in the show as you go to various planets while also following the main quest following the show's story.
I just want Grogu to physically grow up so we don’t have him still act like a baby and and finally talk
This was set up beautifully for grogu to go away and return in a couple of seasons more grown up after season 2, though 1 episode of boba fett completely undone this completely.
I agree. He's absolutely adorable but by this point he needs to start being more than that.
Grogu is over 50 years old at this point, Mando would be long dead of old age before he becomes anything approaching useful.
@@danielspence1653 meh even if he came back still in baby form and his force sensitive powers stronger, if all would have lined up more with what the 1st two seasons set out.
I agree, he's literally 52 years old by season 3. How long does it take a Yoda species to become a child. I mean if is how slowly Yoda and Yaddle aged then they would have been a Jedi Padawan for nearly 200 years.
Cutting in the scene of Kylo Ren shouting "no, you're still holding on. Let go" caused me to spit my drink... great work, Platoon
we went from independent bounty hunter traveling the galaxy to single dad show,just as boba fett went from awesome bounty hunter to backwater government daily show
Yeah, you would think he would be a remnant of a Bounty Hunter that works for Gideon should’ve actually turn against him should be enough for 2 seasoned show, but no, just another walking exposition that sets up for the Sequel, like what?
it was a single dad show from the start and disney failed to let grogu go with Luke
now it's just a sad prediction of single dads taking care of children, while women go crazy with metal devil and his ai minions
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I still think if those stupid speeder kids were written out Boba woulda been so much better. But when you get your ass handed to you in an argument by a strong woman emo cyborg it takes you down a peg or two…
Are you willing to blame Kathleen Kennedy for making this happen because it’s not the script that they Filoni actually wrote Boba Fett was meant to continue being a kick ass bounty hunter have you not noticed all the Star Wars theories makes the women more important and powerful than the men you can think Kathleen Kennedy for the demise of the series even the Asoka show is no different. the men are weak. The women are strong when George Lucas was in control the women were filming it and the men were masculine.
This series has so many problems if you think about it even a moment. The funny thing is as many great critics have said, you only notice the flaws if your already bored. Every movie and show has issues. They stand out however when your mind has nothing else to really focus on and you spend the time to think and look at what is really happening.
I wish I could remember who said this, but "a good movie is nothing but a bad movie that does just enough right."
@@Maladjester Pretty much and I have enjoyed many a bad movie. I grew up with my mom exposing me to things like Mystery Science Theater 3k, So bad it's Good movie night I think it was on TNT etc. Bad movies can be good too, especially if you go into them just to make fun of it.
I think the truly bad stuff is the stuff so boring and mediocre it's not even bad. Just boring.
Even among flawed movies, most of them have the decency to not directly contradict themselves within the same scene.
its truly a shame that Andor didn't get more attention. its the best thing they've made in freaking years
I heard good things about Andor, but the people working on it chose to mouth off before it even aired and … well, I’m not a critic, so I decided I’m no longer giving Hollywood stuff a chance if the creators don’t know how to keep their traps shut! The stuff about the Empire as a stand-in for a Trumpian world, in which our freedoms disappear every day, and their show being about a selfish man who comes to realize that things can only be improved through violent revolution (with emphasis on “revolution”, rather than “rebellion”)… it just made me want to suggest that they all go sodomize themselves, even if the show isn’t nearly as bad as they made it sound!
The problem with Andor is that narratively speaking it's completely pointless. It's following a character who dies and a whole bunch of other characters that have no impact on the wider narrative. It doesn't matter how good it is if the universe it exists in is completely ruined. Disney Star Wars is completely pointless because the sequel trilogy is so bad that it retroactively makes everything that comes before it in the timeline utterly futile since it all ends up at the mess that is the Rise of Skywalker.
@@curranlakhani That's why I never bothered with Andor. Opinions of it have been good but I'm just not interested in a character who in my opinion had his arc in Rogue One... Then died. I didn't need to see more about him, as he just wasn't that interesting to me anyway.
@@curranlakhani Which future of Star Wars is preferable: NJO-Dark Nest-LOTF-FOTJ, or the sequels?
I for one want the Vong back.
@@Zaptor111 I for one want neither group of may sues back.
I love the Count Dooku scenes sprinkled throughout. He is a perfect persona for explaining the flaws in a show.
Castings like Giancarlo Esposito have become such a handy tell. Seeing him playing Gus in other stuff shouts "we couldn't write a convincing character so we cast someone who played that character convincingly in another property".
Nothing against the actors of course. It's always nice seeing people rewarded for their accomplishments. Giancarlo is just an example, and he's capable of playing roles other than Gus.
But it sure is a sign of subpar writing when they cast him as Space Gus.
I hate when movie makers do that too. as not only does a distract from understanding why another actors performance worked so well and something else, but also they simply decide to use it as a vessel for how a character should be played. Casting people in certain roles should be about giving the audience a character, not a performance.
Well, that's not something SW is uniquely guilty of. Esposito is also corporate Gus in The Boys, Cyber Gus in Edgerunners, Political Gus in Far Cry.
Or is this precisely what you were referring to?
I did wonder why that kid got so much emphasis when he was such an irrelevant character even by this show's standards. Finding out he's Jimmy Kimmel's nephew makes perfect sense. Glad to see the showrunners have their priorities straight.
One of the biggest problems with The Mandalorian is that it has continued beyond storylines that have already reached satisfactory conclusions.
No. Season 2 set up the taking back Mandalore storyline and Din Djarin's personal storyline in it. It just got subverted and crammed into about half a season, while other half was filler.
@@mpnuorva
Would you like to discuss the other story lines that have already reached a logical conclusion? Like Grogu?
Disagree. Season 3 focussed on finishing the previously introduced storylines outside of the Din + Grogu plot that were still open:
1. The main Darksaber plotline to reunite the Mandalorian tribes and the return to Mandalore.
2. Tying up the lose end of the geneticist and Moff Gideon, which is part of the "Rise of the First Order" plot in the background.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog "focused" is a hard no. The show can barely focus on making sense between lines of dialogue. Most of it is nonsense filler. "Continued" is more of what it did, and barely at that.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 what a name!
Months before the dismal failure of Asoka, Dave's ineptitude was pointed out here. What foresight.
“Droid of Theseus” 😂 definitely one of my favorite lines.
Seconded
Can you explain the joke?
@@Soccercrazyigboman Ship of Theseus is a fairly famous philosophical problem that goes something like this.
Theseus built a ship and sailed it out. It returned and got minor repairs, rinse and repeat until every single plank was not on the original ship. Is it still the ship of Theseus afterall it isn't in any way the same as what he built but if it isn't when did it stop being one? When the first plank was replaced? When the last one was replaces even though it was still the same repair of replacing one plank etc.
@@anaccountforcommenting6651
the concept only needs 2 parts for the thought experiment. any more is filler and irrelevant.
you can replace the ship with a broom
changing out the handle and then the brush still makes it a thesian broom
@@fluffypinkpandas I suppose you are right but I think ship is much more demonstrative of the issue as the overall change of one repair is much smaller in scope. When changing the handle of a broom you are changing over half of it and as such I think the part that is the most interesting (Supposing the object isn't of Theseus anymore when did it stop being such) is much easier to see in the example with the ship
1:38:48 this is literally what happened in the original expanded universe, and the New Republic was still using Star Destroyers 30 years after a New Hope to battle the Yuuzhan Vong
First few minutes hit hard. I deliberately waited until the first two seasons had been out for a while. Then watched after finishing a deployment while on leave at my parents' house on my dad's big screen. Alone at night. After binging through to season 2 I just turned it a couple episodes in when I realized there was no tension in the fights.
"Hey, member troopers?" "Yeah, I member them being dangerous."
One of the things that annoyed me about Grogu's escape from Order 66 was the way the gunships were casually firing lasers all over the place in the middle of a city. I would honestly have been *more* annoyed had they launched rockets, though really the lasers probably did enough damage that it wouldn't matter anyway.
Honestly at this point, I dont care about Escapes from Order 66, like C´mon they retcon that BS everyday, for me the canon will always be the established first Raid on the Jedi Temple by Anakin and the Clones before Disney take over, Shak Ti survives and goes into hiding, younglings dead (no survivors sorry baby Yoda and Reva), etc...
@@sebas8225 , star war fan tears
I'd be less annoyed by rockets as long as they were guided.
They weren't firing lasers. They were firing large blaster bolts. Way to show you're an absolute tourist.
I am really appreciating Platoon these last few weeks. Clear and concise, and he just appeared one day from nowhere.
They say he rose from the sea standing on a scallop shell.
I heard he rode into RUclips on the back of a 10 story tall mythasaur
I dunno if you can describe it as "concise" lol but it is very good. When mauler is too far off from the next vid... This fine gentleman comes along and takes up the mantle nicely.
@@bryan81584 s/concise/thorough
Here is a fascinating thing, how a certain type of person clearly rages on the left, but indulges in their tactics of shadowbanning. You Sir are an absolute shower and a cad.
I always felt that Baby Yoda (Grogu) was using force powers to manipulate Mando into caring about him. Which is why I was like "oh, that's why he shot the droid in the head, he was using force suggestion to convince him to do so". I guess I was adding context to a character that had none. I like the show because it was simple and relatively entertaining. It gave my brain a chance to just relax and not think about things. The newest season was terrible.
Finally! I was so shocked how badly this season went. After two relatively good seasons, the lack of effort in this one was *appalling*. Outside of some fun scenes, there were so many issues with it, I could barely watch it for more than 5 minutes without face-palming. (edit: typo)
I mean, it's always been this way. The dumb stuff was just hidden better until the main drive of the story was undone in the Boba show. Should I remind you that Mando forgets he has a ship in the first season so AT-ST wouldn't be destroyed by its cannon easily? Or his droid phobia redemption arc with IG-11 that started right after ANOTHER DROID TRIED TO KILL BABY YODA in the previous episode? Or him forgetting about the functions of his ship (super defensive mode mentioned in the finale) so that Jawas can steal from him?
I'm glad people are finally catching up to how bad the show is.
*apalling
"After two relatively good seasons" Yeah relative to TLJ.
@@peteomarjebdollosa9170 Relative to TFA*
I thought it always stunk lol
Season 3 of the mandalorian:
What I wanted/expected: "Lone wolf and cub" meets "have gun-will travel" in space.
What I got: YAS GRILL QUEEN BOSS POWER SLAAAYYYYY
In defense of “The Convert” which is one of the smarter episodes of the season (which isn’t saying much), the decommissioning of the star destroyer is part of a larger movement to decommission the entire new republic fleet. Mentioned in the first office scene. In this scene we also see astromech droids repurposed as office assistants. I think this is a big clue as to how the new republic will be consistently characterized going forward in future media. Which raises some eyebrows as, like you said, this conflicts with its depiction in the sequel trilogy. However, it does offer a band aid explanation as to how the first order was allowed to gain power. It’s because the new republic was grossly incompetent.
Also worth mentioning, I can't begin to imagine how insanely awful the optics would be for the New Republic to be flying around in the Star Destroyers used by the tyrannical genocidal regime
Unfortunately, the defense amounts to "the writers of Disney Star Wars (not limited to this series) made everyone very, very, very stupid."
@@pollertry4003 it worked rather well in the EU.... they repainted them and used them mainly for combat. they were HUGELY important during the vong war as well as the new republics super star destroyers they kept around....
also why would you get rid of them? you have the imperial remnant still around with their own and maybe more than the new republics knows...
@@pollertry4003 hell in tge old EU, Luke thought it was bad optics for the New Republic to put its capital on Coreciant because it involved reusing the Emperor's palace as key government infrastructure.
Hell, the old EU had a lot of stuff about how the New Republic struggled to maintain a sufficient military due to the stigma/association it had with The Empire.
Even if all that was just an excuse to make having Han/Luke/Leia/whoever else hop on a ship and do ground level work on an edventure to save the galaxy again.
Yep, this show was made for people who are looking at their phones 90% of the time. If you make the mistake of actually watching, you can't help but notice the awful pacing and complete lack of character work. I wonder if they retconned Din's character development because Pedro Pascal didn't want to be on set or vice-versa.
I can't understand how anybody can possibly write a story assuming their audience will just turn off their brain to the point of retardation. That's like assuming your teacher will be too drunk to notice how half-assed your book report is while grading it. That's not just lazy, that's contempt towards the audience.
@@pedrokantor3997 Unfortunately it works. People act like season 1 and 2 were peak story telling. I don't see see a qualitative difference in 3, its like going from a 4 to a 3 in writing. But people pitch a fit when you point out what a hack Favreau is and refuse to accept he wrote everything including Book of Boba.
@@pedrokantor3997 After how much praise Season 1 and 2 got it's pretty clear that they were correct. The drop in quality here is not steep.
It’s feeling like a lot of shows are that way now. They have to explain and exposit more and more information not for the characters but for the detached audience. Also, just bad story writing too, fixing or contriving plot holes they wrote earlier.
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I see a lot of people mentioning the show being unable to leave concluded storylines.
And I can't help but think of Ahsoka. She was supposed to die in Rebels (or seemingly was supposed to) but they literally pulled out time travel to save her.
Where she would have died would have been fine.
I adore Ahsoka, but I'm terrified of her overstaying her welcome.
Seems to be the fate of everything deemed profitable...
People need to realize that part of what cements a character/story is their deaths or conclusions
When a character dies, we tend to look back at all their earlier appearances with a better understanding of their complete story. There's almost a reverence for their best scenes and the effect they had on the story. If a character keeps getting injected into everything and they never die or have their story concluded, you don't get to look back to their origins, they're big victories, they're failures and defeats. You don't get to see how they changed and grew and where their arcs went, because their arcs aren't finished. They haven't finished with their victories and (god forbid) failures
@@TOONYBOY I wish people would understand that about Mass Effect. I'm so tired of infants whining about Shepard's death at the end. The so-called "perfect" Destroy ending (which gives a split-second indication that he might have survived) betrays EVERYTHING that Shepard stands for both as an individual and as an icon. Synthesis is the canon ending because it is foreshadowed on multiple occasions. Shepard saved EVERYONE, at the expense of his own life, which is EXACTLY what he stood for, believed in, and fought to achieve. Trying to save his life by making him a genocidal murderer is a betrayal of everything he represents.
@@KravMagoo You had me on your side until you said Synthesis was the "canon" ending (I don't know why you said "canon" instead of "best", we don't even know that it's canon yet. Especially with the teaser for Mass Effect 4 showing a dead Reaper, implying they were destroyed and not controlled or synthesised).
Synthesis isn't the best ending just because Shepard actually stays dead at the end. If that's your criteria, then Control is better since it doesn't literally forcefully assimilate all life in the galaxy and meld all organic life with cybernetic implants, and instead provides them with an unstoppable fleet of warships and full control of all their technology in case of any more extragalactic threats. Control is just as bullshit as Synthesis, don't get me wrong, but the literal ONLY reason that Destroy isn't the unquestionably most moral option is because the game contrived the "it will kill the Geth as well" rule right at the end, when not only was the Crucible built specifically to kill Reapers as per spoken dialogue throughout the game talking about how to design it so that it ONLY killed Reapers, but it literally makes no sense why it would atomize the Geth when it doesn't even destroy the Reapers, it just deactivates them and makes them collapse. If the Reaper code that gave the Geth individual awareness was what made them vulnerable to the Crucible, then the Crucible would simply destroy that code, making the Geth only intelligent in groups again. It's not even clear what that code is even supposed to improve, since the Geth were explicitly stated to be sentient and capable of speaking to organics as individuals, rather than units from when they were created 300 years ago. There's seemingly no difference between the Geth that revolted 300 years ago and the Geth upgraded with Reaper code.
Also, before I continue, how was Synthesis foreshadowed? And even if it is, why did you take the Reapers' word for anything and why did you believe it would be the best option BEFORE you picked it and knew what would happen?
Also, the Destroy ending is not a genocidal murderer, and it does not betray everything he represents. Not taking the "best solution" provided by people telling him what is and isn't possible is exactly what Shepard would do. The Reapers are essentially the physical manifestations of inevitability and futility, and Shepard rejects these concepts fundamentally. He doesn't accept the ultimatum. His refusal of these defines his motivation throughout the franchise to resolve millenia-old injustices and rivalries. If the Krogan are cured, war is inevitable. The Krogan are too brutish, peaceful coexistence on a galactic scale is futile. Synthetic life will never have need or organics, war is inevitable. Peaceful coexistence is futile. The Rachni are too powerful to beat, they will overrun the galaxy. War is inevitable, peaceful coexistence is futile. The Reapers have existed for potentially over a billion years, our extinction is inevitable, the cycle cannot be broken. Fighting is futile.
Shepard succeeded in all those prior ways because he refused to accept an imperfect reality, the "next-best" scenario. Shepard listening to what the Reapers (especially with everything he knows about them) tell him what the best solution is as far as *their morality* goes is only something that an indoctrinated Shepard would do. I mean, Saren believed that the cybernetics given to him *by a Reaper* were the perfect synthesis of organics and synthetics
I believe it originally was supposed to take the form of old western shows which didn’t necessary have a plot per say, but instead a cast of characters which are seen in weekly morning episodes. This worked fine until the later seasons and episodes when they tried to tell grandiose narratives of abandoned planets and lost cultures which conflicted with the original principle of the show; that there were no grandiose narratives as seen in the main films but instead a weekly theme and weekly problem with a weekly solution. A completely isolated show that just so happens to take place in such a dense world.
The Mandalorian will never be better than the Bill Burr episode, amazing pay off with the face reveal, great set pieces/fights and most of all justice for the victims of ‘Project Cinder’.
NOTHING has come close to that.
Don't forget the Seismic Charge from Fett's Slave 1.
is the character i wanted to see the most on season 3
True, episode 15 (with bill burr and morak quest) was the best one
Yeah it was such a great payoff of him saying the Imperials had families, 10 seconds before he mows down an army of stormtroopers.
@@Corvus- that’s literally the point. It’s war. One that could’ve been avoided. He’s upset but that doesn’t mean he’s just gonna let himself get shot Lmao
23:07 Almost makes the whole of disney star wars worth it for this alone.
51:35 I think by pod he meant the hovering pram he sits in that definitely cannot fit inside the naboo ship but inexplicably does.
You forgot to mention. Even if Mando did get Ig-11... where would he fit on Mando's new ship? He's no astromech 😂
exactly i was thinking the same thing , and then when the droid goes missing he just gets out of the ship and pressurizes his helmet and says oh well i guess ill just do it. you wasted all that time , energy and resources . I knew then this season was doomed.
Omg... "The Chunkylorian"... I laughed EVERY SINGLE TIME you said that.
The Dumbalorian will never be the same for me. Great work. Now inject yourself with the Force and give us Part 2!!!
Just wait for the Lizzo episode where we see the obeselorian
It's bittersweet to see the distressed reaction to the onboarding of R5-D2 onto the Mando crew, because it felt too similar to how I felt when I saw that scene. I can suspend my disbelief that Mando is still critical of using droids for important missions like scouting out Mandalore and has some neurosis about needing IG-11 still. But, if that's what we have to believe about Mando to go to such lengths via multiple side quests to fix him, it is INSANE to expect us to also believe he'll go "Eh, I guess this one will do" in that scene. Then, adding on top of that, being beaten over the head with the feeling that the writers do not value your time by completely invalidating an entire episode of their own show just starts off the season on an extremely sour note.
His distrust of droids flips whenever they need it to. They never have any consistency with it.
Disney ruins any IP it touches. Judge by any metric; Sales, quality, nostalgia baiting, purpose.
30 seconds in im already in tears with laughter, thank you Mr Platoon for once again allowing us all to laugh rather than cry at how all our favourite stories and franchises are comparable to if not worse than Cbeebies these days
"Stop holding on, let go." had me rolling.
"Weird alien looking creature with magical bood" What a hilariously accurate description of Ellie in the TV adaptation.
I do hope you're not insulting Bella Ramsey's appearance. I know she doesn't look nearly like Ellie, but she doesn't deserve the hate for that.
weird how your not complaining to Platoon as he said it, and repeats it everytime you play this video, I just agreed, as is my right to have an opinion.
@@monkeyboy7126 Thank you for clarifying it, my friend. I didn't mind platoon's jokes on
Bella, as it was harmless and all.
Mandolorians used to be such an interesting culture and people-group. A proud people that incorporated war into their daily lives.
And now they're mentioned in passing. They're a group of maybe a hundred people that aren't fleshed out at all.
The only thing that happened between the two attitudes was Disney.
Nah, Dave Filoni already started ruining them in his Clone Wars series before Disney.
The Clone Wars 2008--the paragon of "quality writing"--is what destroyed the Mandalorians.
The very thing that 'fans' extol as the peak of star wars (EU) is the very thing ruining most of Star Wars.
@@matane2465 Even though George Lucas was there, and not every episode was written by him, the other writers did the contribution here.
Also, The Clone Wars can coincide with the films, it just doesn’t need to be made beat for beat in the Prequels, just as a subtle wink. Heck there are multitude of new characters running around that may be fun to watch around.
It’s irksome, but…
Why is Grogu the only youngling who had an escape plan made for him? Everyone else is expendable?
Because Yoda's species seem to be extremely rare, and because they're longlived they probably rarely have offspring. Whereas the regular standard humanoid species of the Star Wars galaxy are a dime a dozen and have tons of children. Statistically they will breed more force-sensitive kids, it's only a matter of time.
@CrunchyFrog But everybody who's at rhe jedi temple had a high enough count to become a jedi, and since midichlorians can be passed on genetically there would be escape plans for all or most of them if the idea was breeding more jedi. Not to mention that humans breed and develop faster, so relying only on Grogu would be self defeating, especially given that it will take him at least 100yrs to be old enough to breed.
To be fair the Naboo guard asked about the others so they were definitely expecting Beq to bring more younglings but Grogu was the only one he could get out.
@collecter343 I took that to mean theybwere talk8ng about the other jedi that were guarding Grogu rather than the younglings.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Could go either way, the other jedi may have been gathering up as many younglings as they could find. Eventually decided Grogu was the only one they could send off safely.
An outstanding documentary. The saddest part is that this documentary is more entertaining than the subject it analyzes by an order of magnitude. Entertaining, educational, and at times hilarious. Job well done!
"Botox Karen". Now that made me laugh!
Mando's journey should have been from bounty hunter to mercenary (like a hero-for-hire type). A little like Han Solo.
"Throwing 💩 at the wall and hoping it sticks.."
Disney
By the amount they apply Mando's "wistle" it doesn't feel like a character's theme but rather like some pavlovian experiment.
So they can trigger nostalgic feelings only with the sound of a wistle, 5 years from now 😂
Reminds me of Wonder Woman theme in Justice League
isn't that also what they tried to do with the hunger games movies?
I wondered less about where the Armorer got the ore she is always smelting but where they are getting the fuel to run the forge that is never turned off.
It’s crazy how Disney has made Vader and Order 66 less and less impactful every time they try to flash back to it
Well, today we hear that John Favreau is leaving disney. Kind of brings it all together in a logical way.
Hey LP, just wanted to say thank for your Rings of Power videos. Your recommendation inspired me to pick up a copy of The Silmarillion and I've enjoyed it so far. Keep up the great work!
I’m very glad to hear it!
@@TheLittlePlatoonSpeaking of Rings of Power...
I havent watched book of boba so seeing grogu in the first minute of season 3 after the sick set up with luke in the previous episode just sucked away my love for this show
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Bo-katan (in the mando, I heard in clone wars she's actually well written) is just a horrible character who keeps getting rewarded throughout season 3.
(neither of these lists are exhaustive)
Horrible human being
>Betrays mando the first time they meet, forcing him to do something he didn't agree to after he already completed his end of the deal. (oh but I guess extortion is "the way")
>Never discloses her true intentions to, supposedly, save Mandalore, to Mando, the guy who is basically defined by his literal religious conviction to Mandalore. This combined with the fact that she CLEARLY is considering killing him to take the blade once he gets it first, makes it clear she doesn't actually care about Mandalore, she just wants the throne.
>To further reinforce this, once Din DOES have the blade, she doesn't ask him to lead the mandalorians to establish a new age of Mandalore, she goes back, alone, to attempt to justify her rule anyway
>When everyone DOES leave her she, instead of doing anything else that would make her a functioning member of society, sits her ass on an abandonded throne, alone. She'd rather rot on an abandoned throne cold and alone than be a functioning member of society.
>She openly admits to not believing anything she preached and only lying about it to keep her status and stay in good graces with the people she rules and even her own family. In other terms, she's willing to lie through her teeth about her deepest convictions, even to her own fucking father, to maintain power and authority.
Rewarded
>She gets to violate "the way" by the most extreme and strict upholder of it, the forgemaster
>She gets to see the mystical deity monster thing
>She gets the darksabre (which, according to the legend, Mando won fair and square)
>She gets to rule
>She gets blindly accepted
>She gets basically everything
She is a plainly horrible person, and the show just seems to be willfully ignorant of this fact. It was bad enough when her extorting and betraying Din was "the way" apparently, but at least then she was just a stupid once-off character, season 3 has her as literally the main character.
Girl bosses and Mary Sues are the Way.
Her arc in Clone Wars isn't much either.
Bo-Katan's introduced as the second-in-command of the terrorist group trying to kill the ruler of Mandalore (her sister) and invoke the violent warrior ways of the past. Once Maul killed the group leader and takes over, she and her allies abandon the group as they'd rather an actual Mandalorian rule the planet, not a Sith.
She helps Obi-Wan escape the planet as she'd rather he have the Republic fleet invade Mandalore and kill Maul. A year later, nothing, so she uses Ahsoka to get in contact with Obi-Wan, and guilt-trips him into helping Mandalore, as he loved her sister, despite Bo-Katan being the reason her sister died. She also pulls a "so what?" about the possibility that doing so would cause another war. Once Mandalore is freed, she feels directionless at the sight of the suffering her people were put through.
In Rebels, it's shown that she and her allies have made zero headway trying to retake Mandalore from the Empire, so they've been focusing on destroying other imperial operations on the planet. Because she's one of the few Mandalorians that still possess qualities of a leader and emotional maturity, Bo-Katan is given the Darksaber by Sabine, as she feels Bo-Katan is more qualified than her to unite the Mandalorian clans and retake the planet.
I love the actress, i seen her other work, and she makes for a great action hero. But, i also feel like her character Bo, has been giving everything without she doing anything substantial to gain such praises. I think, she should have been introduced as a lone wolf, abandoned by the pack, her and mando butting heads about what a true mando is. We see a woman full of guilt and shame, but hiding it behind a tough exterior, in which both grogu and din eventually help her get through. But, she continues to doubt herself and rightfully so, as she is struggling to care about anything. As she learns that grogu has been taken by moth gideon, she decides to help din and this could have been a great opportunity for her to kill moth gideon, but this only fuels her anger, and she leaves mando with the darksaber. By the time we get to season 3, she finds out that gideon has survived, (cloning), but instead convinces din to pursue his fate to lead the mandalorians... i know din wasnt written to be a leader, but that would have been a great theme and character conflict to explore in season 4. But, anyways, thats how i think her story in this series should have been written.
Nah, she was an awful bitch in The Clone Wars as well. She was a literal terrorist (as opposed to a freedom fighter like, say, the rebellion) who did a bunch of awful things and only felt bad for them because they blew up in her face and got her terrorist leader boss/idol killed, her sister killed, and her planet turned into a conquered territory when someone else outplayed them in terms of evil jack assery. She never once does anything to ever really repent for some of the awful terrorist things she does like burning down a village after it very politely (not sarcasm, they were seriously super polite and diplomatic about asking her boss to 'please sir stop doing these things to us') asked her boss to please stop enslaving their women. She does stop doing it by the time she shows up in Rebels, but its never really made clear if she had a change of heart or if she just realized the Empire wouldn't give two shits about her harassing civilians like the Republic had and so she pragmatically focused on military targets they would care about being hit.
Unless by well written you mean 'the story doesn't try to pretend she isn't an awful person', in which case yeah she was much more well written in TCW.
Absolutely fucking perfectly put.
This was better than watching the actual Mandalorian.
Yeah, thank goodness for channels like this, I actually have to use my brain rather than watch disney shovelware trash.
That's a low bar
@@TravisHi_YT Shovelware is a perfect way to describe Disney shows at this point.
Can no longer handle the filler bullcrap honestly next Bad Batch season I´ll only watch plot focused episodes
While Andor was limited in its scope, I think it was handled better than just about any filmed story in SW. I think that was mainly because it makes zero attempts to fan service children.
Couldn't even finish that series, so boring.
@@wavyremix The representative child speaks!
@@KravMagoo wow you put me in my place.
Wait you seriously made an 18 minutes long intro? Damn, that third season must have been something.
And this is just the first four episodes! The intro covers a lot of the background and meta observations about the show as a whole, though, so it’s not purely damning of season three.
@@TheLittlePlatoon It was a thoughtful start. I agree with you broadly, but you are wrong on a few points.
For example, massive decommissioning and destruction of war material has followed all of our major wars. Small arms were often destroyed. Armored vehicles were stored or sold. Same for aircraft though they were more often stored than sold.
Ships. Many ships were decommissioned. Pretty much all navy ships are decommissioned even when they are sold on to friendly governments. The owners or captors of ships tend to rip out and keep the sensitive equipment.
Most warships are so expensive to operate that many are sold to friends, scrapped, sunk in weapons tests or left tied to docks.
All of those individual decisions come with their own massive implications.
Many ships are scrapped in Turkey, but would you scrap a nuclear carrier in Turkey? How many people in the world are even qualified to scrap a reactor? How many of them aren't Chinese or Russian?
Star Wars never gives context to anything but context is unbelievably important to any decision regarding war material.
WW2 German ships, for economic reasons unique to Nazi Germany, used vastly different boilers and fuels to allied ships. This made them pigs to maintain and more trouble to keep than they were worth to keep.
One captured German ship almost blew up while underway because its American crew did not know how to run the boilers.
Media analysts have common sense but they do not always know the technical details that would inform their common sense criticisms.
I love talking about this stuff, and I mean no disrespect. If you want more information, I'd talk to you or I'd recommend you watch your fellow countrymen Dr. Alexander Clarke and Drachinifel here on RUclips.
Happy critiquing.
@@iivin4233 I'd like to throw in my worth of cents. Countries scaling their militaries down is not in and of itself an axiom that follows every war, it's a consequence of their required commitments scaling down, it's npot worth to keep Napoleonic Wars era armada around if most of your Navy's work is show of the flag and piracy-policing. One would presume that that New Republic's way of governing the galaxy would require less resources, but it is counterbalanced by them not inheriting the Imperial Navy intact, some of it would dissolve via warlordship, some would follow whatever proto-First Order authority, some would enrich galactic black market selection and so on. Either way, if you do get your hands on an ISD you can operate - you keep it.
If you still want to decomission them though, Coruscant is still not the place to do it. The foreign technology espionage argument is, imo, invalid due to lack of truly "foreign" agents, since OT takes place during a civil war in an undisputed galactic hegemony. As far as location itself - if the the Space Turkey makes little sence, so does Space Manhattan - but luckily we are not limited to these two locations, Kuat Drive Yards is alive and well in Disney version of the universe. They desgined and built the things and, makes sense to me, know a thing or two about scrapping them. And they also could lend expertise required to run those, shouold you keep them.
The scene where mando wears a helmet when doing a face scan genuinely baffled me when I first saw it, honestly couldn’t understand how a team of professional filmmakers, writers and producers decided that it makes perfect sense for him to do that, but at this point, Hollywood doesn’t even care, and so do I.
I don't understand its context, but I suspect the face scan has even less security than current biometric face recognition. As in, it only needed _a_ human face, not a/multiple _specific_ faces. It's Highlander: The Source all over again.
@@neocomp92 the context is that mando can’t take off his helmet because his religion says so? And yeah we do have better tech already, but I wouldn’t mind that, just don’t make your main character look like an absolute imbecile when he’s supposed to be a skilled bounty hunter, doesn’t make any sense.
Hahahaha, the little whistle thing that plays whenever Mando does anything pissed me off so much during season 3. Happy to see someone else notice it lol. I get that they want like a "chime" but GODDAMN
TLP: *makes a two hour video*
*calls it part one*
*refuses to elaborate*
Wait, how can Grogu have spent *years* training with Luke? The crime boss part of Boba Fett was just after season 2 of Mandalorian and all those flashbacks were either before or during Mandalorian? Boba hadn't been in power for months, let alone years. If he had, that would make him *even more* stupidly written than presented in his show.
I think it was more like a “year” not several.
@@santi_super_stunts2573 It couldn't have even been a year. There's no way Boba Fett was in power for anywhere near that long before making the big decisions that led to the showdown with that drug cartel and people wouldn't have been walking all over him like that if he was properly established.
It just doesn't add up.
Jon Favreau himself said in an interview that Grogu spent 2 years training with Luke, so I would say there is nothing to debate about that. But it sure does seem that the developments on Tattooine in Boba Fett took a lot less time than that.
@@ricardob.6924 That's the thing though, his word is contradicted by what the series itself shows.
Maybe that was the ideal, but if that's the case, why it Luke's temple a work in progress with just a shack?
I suspect, that a couple of years is he *wanted* to do, but it's *not* what happened
*Maybe* if Boba, Fennec, and Din had an adventure or 2 before Boba decided, "ya know what, I'mma go bust a cap in Bib Fortuna" or something to occupy Boba's time before his crime boss era started, that'd be one thing, but that didn't happen
@@ricardob.6924he meant literally it was 2 years since the last season lmao
Had this running in the background and 'Botox Karen' fuckin KILLED me.
"Mando on Lake Placid"
Excellent chapter title.
(After seeing the fight, I was rooting for the gator.)
35:50
I'm legitimately crying from what you just did there! Ho my God!!😂🤣
Oh, that was funnier than anything Grogu tried to do that was considered cute this season.
Starship fuel doesn't melt beskar beams
Mando stole Fett’s story, then Bo stole his. Pottery.
"I always wanted to like the mandalorian" is pretty much how I feel about every Disney StarWars thing except for Rogue One and Andor.
Rogue one actually managed to bring the fear of light sabers back in the 2 minute Vader scene. They went from the equivalent of a pool noodle with damage equivalent to a 5yo with a sockem bopper to an actual weapon capable of killing people again
@@tosutaa Indeed, they also made the empire not look like brainless idiots for once. It infuriates me just how not threatening the empire is, when these are people who would glass a planet just to make a point. It's such a shame that instead of the gritty war movie that the original director wanted to make we got half of that and half Marvel.
Babu Frick is the magnum opus of the new Star Wars universe. I will take a mini-series about his exploits throughout the galaxy, please.
Good to see you do this. At first, I was amused with the awful writing, but once Lizzo and Jack Black showed up, it became offensively bad. I can no longer enjoy making fun of it. It just hinders all forms of positive thought in me.
The best part is since nothing Christopher Loyd's character did mattered, that entire storyline can be cut and nothing would change.
this is just like Mauler's unbridled rage :D thank you! Keep this up man.
The concept of a space cowboy with super armor trying to protect a baby wizard is amazing
Watching Mandalorian season 3 after watching Andor was like eating at KFC the day after eating at a 5 star restaurant.
Andor set the bar high and I expect every other SW series to be unable to reach that bar
You should try a KFC in Japan. Or any fast-food joint there.
Actually there are good KFC's in the USA as well, depends on the owner/ manager/and crew. Where it is located.
Andor? Well if you like it, fine. Gives off too many ANTIFA vibes for me.
@@chrisperrien7055 nah it gives more Battle of Algiers/The Troubles in Northern Ireland vibes which were actual uprising against colonialist powers. Anarkiddies are a bunch of larpers who would never be capable of pulling of what the rebels accomplish in Andor
@@chrisperrien7055 nah it gives more Battle of Algiers/The Troubles in Northern Ireland vibes which were actual uprising against colonialist powers. Anarkiddies are a bunch of larpers who would never be capable of pulling of what the rebels accomplish in Andor
@@chrisperrien7055 KFC in Japan barely differs from KFC elsewhere. It's similarly too oily to taste. Fast food restaurants don't care much for quality, even in Japan. Don't know what you're talking about.
The Empire clearly parallels facism and the full destructive effects on everyone, something that has barely been addressed in Star Wars proper. Being against facism in a Star Wars show should be a standard, a universal good, especially as the wars focus around multiple rebellions all across the galaxy fighting the Empire. Those vibes you speak of just add to it and the universal world building. What are you talking about?
@@chrisperrien7055 they didn't make Andor to appease fascist scum like you.
I love that it is part 1, 🎉
"Nepolorian" is the funniest thing I've ever heard. Thanks for many laughs!
The longman (Mauler) has a challenger!
Though I applaud your statement, and agree with you wholeheartedly… That’s like saying that Nimitz has a challenger in Nelson. We should just be eternally, grateful that we have two minds, like these, which go beyond even razor fist and the critical drinker
I still consider myself a Padawan of The Long.
What I want to know is how both Reva and Grogu survived Operation Knightfall, despite the Jedi Temple being ground zero for the Jedi purge. If they were on different planets, that's one thing, but the Jedi in the temple were massacred. Like, straight up.
BS retcon thats what, before the Disney retcon, the only Jedi capable of escaping the Jedi Temple during the Purge would be Shak Ti, "Shaak Ti was assigned to protect the Jedi Temple in the final days of the war as the threat of the hidden Dark Lord of the Sith became clear. Stationed there during the initiation of Operation: Knightfall, Ti escaped with her life when the Temple and the Republic fell into the hands of the Sith Lords".
Consider that unlike the rest of the fodder Jedi at the Temple, Shaak Ti had experience in the Clone Wars and despite jobbing to Grievous, unlike Grievous other victims, Shaak Ti survived as Grievous was in a rush to grab palps and get out before mace windu arrived, Shaak Ti was also pretty much 4th to 3rd as a Council Master, explaining how realistically consideering Anakin was busy killing other masters, younglings, etc... Shaak Ti would´ve likely survived the Purge as Clones would just be fodderized the instant Force powers come into play.
Reva and Grogu however would never survive Order 66 unless Palps orders them to be spared, Anakin would absolutely not fail killing Reva either.
I don't think it's implausible that a very, very small amount of jedi survived the Purge at the Temple
For Reva, she faked her death, as she has a secret, natural, gaping hole through her body. She's not actually human. She's Chestholian. That's why she survives it both times with no problems.
“No, you’re still holding on, let go!” Had me dying listening to this at work. Well done.
This was absolutely excellent. I have been waiting quite a while for you to release this video. Thanks for all your efforts.
Mr. Little Platoon, I must say that your editing quality increases with each video, keep it up!
Great stuff.
Made me look at the whole Mandalorian series a lot differently as well as Boba and And/or.
You made me laugh so hard all throughout too.
SUBSCRIBED.
One of the things about which S1 was praised was Pascal's acting through and around the helmet. The subtle head shifts, the way he'd look at everything straight-on, the tilts, turns, etc... to convey emotion. I've seen whole video essays on this. WHY they thought they could throw a different actor into the suit and ADR his lines and achieve the same character is beyond me.
Yes, Darth Vader was body + ADR by different actors, but they were always the same! Prowse's movements remained consistant, and when they eventually DID put someone else in the suit, it felt different (though less jarring since there's like 30 years between performances).
I actually noticed this difference without even knowing they switched actors. Such a bad decision.
He was rarely ever in the suit, though he was on occasion. From season one forward, most of the physical Mandalorian is not Pascal. Howard even talks about how funny it was that she never met him while making her season one episode.
Yes , the body movement was very awkward.
"...in exhange, I let him pick through my dumpster." Can't get that image out of my head now. Thanks Mando! :K
I think the whole Clone story is pretty well covered across the Two Seasons of the Bad Batch, Including the loss of cloning technology and ability
I feel like "the Empire blowed it up because they're bad" isn't that good an explanation, it's more just a way for Filoni suck all the nuance and moral uncertainty out of Order 66 so he can keep playing with his action figures without having to acknowledge that they murdered all the Jedi.
I loved it when you said "because no one stayed through to the END of Boba Fett (I refer to series as BETA FETT). and I laughed so hard, because Its soo true. I definitely did not stay through to the End. I lasted 3-4 episodes, and completely forgot about it... till much later, and was told how it ended, so i never felt like i needed to go back and watch it. LOL.
They have continually massacred the character for years if not decades. Always found Jango to be more compelling as a result.
Didnt bother watching a single full episode, people are Right about "cameos" being relevant for audience grabbing in Star Wars now, People laughed at Darth Maul´s appearance at the end of Solo, but now we get similar s*** in every star wars show, first example Cade Bane dead by unfinished episodes of Clone Wars, believe it or not Boba was supposed to have already killed him.
Now instead of dying in Grace just like Maul, Cade Bane is used for Cameos in OT and before eras in Boba Fett and Bad Batch.
People really dont get why George wanted him dead in Clone Wars, but I´ll spell it out for Disneytards, IT´S CASE CLONE WARS BOUNTY HUNTERS LIKE CADE BANE TAKE AWAY FROM OT BOUNTY HUNTERS LIKE VALLANCE, you cant have a good star wars show now, case they keep shoving that Prequel stuff up the OT´s ass and it´s destroying that Era, these Clone Wars characters should´ve been killed DECADES AGO!
They never explain why Bo Katan never challenged Mando to a fight. It wouldn't even need to be to the death, as she demonstrates when she retakes control of her army. Which raises two questions now. Why did she not challenge Mando to a fight the second they handed Moff Gideon over to the new Republic, and why did she not challenge her second in command to a fight the nanosecond he tried to seize control of her army because she did not challenge Mando? Hell, Mando tried to give the Darksaber to her. So if tradition demanded a fight I'm sure he'd be down to just fight her over and over again until she wins. Who knows, she might even win on the first try, since she gave Gideon the Darksaber as part of Mandalore's surrender to the empire... so he never beat her in combat. Meaning that Mando never truly owned the Darksaber in the first place and since this is already insanely convoluted, again, *they can just fight* and sort out any doubts.
And they all conveniently forgot to mention Darth Maul was the previous true(ish) owner of the Darksaber and Ahsoka beat him (kind of, Maul kept on trying to turn Ahsoka to his side when he could have just killed her). So why aren't the Mandalorians trying to kill her? Does Bo Katan view force users as unfair challengers and therefore unable to claim the Darksaber? Well fun fact, we have no idea!
It's like this plot is chasing its own tail so fast that it's creating a black hole.
its symbolic for castrating yourself and giving all power to a woman...
this show predicts the future where men are taking care of children, while women go away to pursue power and resources
its made by a corporation to educate children into new ways of society
its funny that grown men are watching this searching for some meaning
the ownership of the Darksaber is ruined if you go off of Maul. Palpatine beat him, then Vader beat him, then Vader died.
I believe that when Jon started the mandolorian series his plan was to be done with grogu in season 2 and then kk saw the money and took over Boba and brought him back then Dave and kk took over the Mando show
"Pirate these guys up to 11"
Love it...
I think they wrote a bit of this specifically to be cut up for a trailer. Bo Katan sullenly sitting on a throne! Mando walking away! Lots of mandos fighting a croc! They are 3 second scenes that would make you think there is a lot of interesting stuff behind those bits but there is not.
I mean Palpatine survived the entire second Death Star exploding around him so IG88 surviving a Thermal Detonator isn't that implausible right? Ha ha... ha ha... :(
Nothing funnier than when someone comes up with an alternate name for a character and then always refers to that character by that name. Subbed.
I find you strike a great balance between detailed analysis and scathing commentary without simply relying on cynicism. Well done.
Thank you! That’s nice to hear.
In 50:46, when mando tells grogu to lock himself in his pod, he means this little flying cradle grogu was found in, not part of the ship