Well it’s easy to see whose fault it was since the GM crew have launched GOOD GOOD flawlessly. Who cares if Brodie has 2.2 million subs? His videos were getting less views at the time.
It's interesting watching this video now after seeing Brodie transition to Disc Golf, and Good Good launching and growing so much. It seems like the Good Good boys knew they had something but didn't know how to properly execute it, while Brodie had a set road map of how he felt things should progress. I found myself siding with Brodie originally, but seeing Good Good blow up, while at the same time being able to follow the guys on their individual stuff (like Steve's golf course he is building) has been enjoyable. Looking back I think you nailed it on the head, it was just the wrong timing. I hope everyone involved in this situation continues to be successful in the future.
Good Good said on their podcast that the chemistry just wasn’t right. Brodie was in his 30s and all the GM guys were 20 at the time. The fit was always awkward and came off weird in the Brofive videos. Like a college guy showing up to a high school party. Brodie definitely being an overbearing personality and basically rushing the process and bringing in lawyers and contracts would have turned me off as well. The entire thing felt very transactional and was always going to fail.
Seems like it's worked out fairly well for both sides at this point. Brodie moved on into the disc golf world and seems to be enjoying that new challenge. The GM guys have basically created a new version of BroFive with their Good Good channel, but in the form that they wanted originally with all of them all maintaining their own separate channels. They're all doing well too, with Garrett's channel at over 300k subs now and both Matt and Stephen having over 100k. They all have their own merch and seem to work together and help each other out with cross promotion. I don't think you can really blame either side, they just weren't on the same page with how they wanted to run stuff and it wasn't a good fit. Brodie had more experience in the social media world and seemed pretty set in his ways on how he wanted things to be run. I can't blame him for that, as obviously it's worked well for him and he's had a ton of success with it. But I also don't blame the GM guys for wanting to do things their own way, which they've clearly also had a fair bit of success with in the past year and don't seem to have the personal issues that they had with Brodie. It's possible BroFive could've blown up even bigger, but if none of them were going to be happy in that situation, then there would be no point anyway.
Garrett/Micah/Matt/Steve/Bubbie and the new guy > than Brodie. Just from an entertainment and appeal perspective they are light years ahead of Brodie...even if Brodie has subscribers. When it’s all done Good Good and GM__golf wins
Immature boys not ready to be men. Getting parents on the phone, ghosting, lying and intentionally not promoting the BroFive.... that’s just annoying passive aggressive unprofessionalism. If I was Brodie I’d be pissed too. Don’t say you’re gonna do something, have multiple talks about it, agree and then not do it, be a bog baby about it, lie and run from your problems.
I think you completely missed the point of Brodie’s video/explanation. He did not boil it down to him working too hard. He essentially said, I was more invested than them, that’s why it did not end up working. Not “i was too invested that’s why it didn’t work”
Maybe I didn’t fully get my point across, I meant that he boiled his own faults down to being to invested/ intense not that he boiled down the reason for the split to that, I go on to say that the reason was the difference in commitment and why that difference may exist eg the difference in viewer base the recentness of gm golfs success etc
What he really said is the other guys needs security so they kept uploading and growing thier channels brodie doesn't so iets easy to say I'm more invested. Basically if all of them was big stars this would have worked
did you watch GM__Golf's video? Someone was lying because Brodie said he didn't know if GM was out of brofive or not, but Garrett said that he told Brodie over the phone that he was out of the group. Also, Matt wrote on a community post that he didn't want to make a video and turn things into a "he said he said" thing. I think Garrett just really just did not want to work with Brodie. Garrett knew how big the opportunity was and how much money he could be making; he said that he told Matt and Stephen that they could stay in Brofive for that reason. Garrett just didn't like working with Brodie for whatever reason.
@@justyouraveragewhitedude9748 I agree that Brodie shouldn't have done that. Also, they all should've been more upfront with the fans. They just made videos in reaction to hate comments. No one said anything about why Brofive ended until everyone kept bashing Brodie. All members of Brofive could've and should've told the fans that it was over much earlier and this drama wouldn't have happened (or at least not to the level that it did).
lol any grown man 18+ getting their parents to fight their battles needs to self reflect a bit. Famous last words, "It's not about the money." it's always about money.
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm just coming across this. I think your analysis of Brodie is incorrect. I don't have a problem with your analysis of his (self-admittedly) overbearing nature, but to characterize Brodie as having a safe place to fall is off. Social media followings are tenuous and fickle. The idea that Brodie had the least to lose is exactly 100%. He had the most to lose. Moreover, I've looked and I haven't see GM's response. I love both channel's content and I support them both. I'm just not sure that Brodie is the clear bad guy here. Chalk it up to a mis-match of experience. I bet if Garrett was to respond today, I would like to think he would agree.
I think I agree with you... experience seems to be a huge part. Garret did respond but not sure if he took down or private his video? Let’s just say Brodie did a much better job responding than Garrett...
@@aaron_b. Garrett is a RAT, he is all about the youtube money and he would step on anyone for a little fame and fortune. I think the word for that is DOUCHE.
You must have not watched the actual video. They have to post those last course vlogs because they were essentially paid to go there and play the course so they are holding up their end of the deal by giving them the free publicity on the course
A lot of drama for a short lived channel that didn’t have much chemistry to begin with. They should have just kept Bro5 as a nice little side gig... If it blew up... great. If not no harm... no foul. Why should Garret throw his channel and merch down the drain??? Or Brody for that matter? Everyone should have just been chill.
I’m super late to this but the sidemen do have there own individual clothing like illvzn and zrk I think they did when this video was made but not sure
Brodie wanted to be like dude perfect, a group of people with different personalities. Gm wanted it to be Gm golf and Brodie. It would be a group within a group. That doesn’t really work.
Right after they split Garrets buddy who used to do Videos with him came back.It looks in my opinion his old buddy saw him making money,wanted back in.Then on top of a buddy wanting back in,his parents got on his ear and said you need more money and a bigger split.Its sad because they could have been doing amazing by now,making a ton and having awesome videos.
@@genekerr8762 no they won’t. Their followers will mature in time and the silliness that they do will get dull. Also as they get into serious relationships their priorities will change as well. I would be shocked if they ever get more than 500k subscribers. Also, they never should have gone into business with Brodie anyway. I think Brody was using them because his fan base is getting older and he needed younger viewers, like the one GM golf has.
Currently 520K subs, and blowing up in the golf community. I know guys in their 60"s that love watching these guys. I literally know nothing about Brodie, but after watching everyone's videos. As a group, the videos he's in had the worst chemistry. Felt to forced I guess.
His parents were rightfully concerned about a guy in his 30s basically seeing a blowing up channel of guys just out of high school and bringing in lawyers and contracts immediately in an attempt to piggyback off what GM was doing. I wouldn’t have let my son go into business with Brodie. The chemistry wasn’t there, and while I’m sure Brodies a decent dude a lot of what he was doing seemed rushed, overbearing, and selfish (even if he didn’t recognize it).
Ive heard the story from both sides and the GM crew really messed up. They were too simple minded and couldnt see the big picture. They needed Brodie way more than Brodie needed them.
I understand your point however speculation and conversation is part of youtube, as for the no reason it has brought many new people to my channel and allowed new people to see my content whether they enjoy it or not I am happy just to see people engaging with my content positively or negatively
I think they do have security because they all still live with mommy and daddy right? Idk either way it's a bummer and I still think it's all Garrett's fault. They blew a huge opportunity imo.
I don’t know to be honest It seems Garrett has gone with some other guys and the other two have found another guy but I doubt the drama will come out cause it’s probably money related
Brodie's video definitely did not need to be that long. He spent time rambling for over an hour and there wasn't much substance to most of it. He tried to stay objective but ended up throwing a lot of shade on the other guys. Then Garrett, Matt, and Stephen took a lot of heat from it all. Everyone was against Brodie and then he flipped it around to most people being on his side (at least whoever was commenting on the videos). He could've kept the video to 5-10 minutes and just said that there was a difference in viewpoints on the direction of the channel and that sometimes people don't all get along.
In the end this boiled down to the gm golf boys being unbelievably ignorant and shortsighted. They had an opportunity to essentially ride Brodie’s coat tails to fame behind his massive following. In the end, they only hurt their own brand by appearing childish by the way they handled this situation and not following through with something that could have been very successful.
To an extent, however perhaps they didnt want to ride brodies coat tails. For example if I had the kind of success view and merchandising wise that the gm golf boys did I dont know if id be willing to give up my individuality to be a part of something that granted would make me more financially successful but at the cost of autonomy if that makes sense.
Noah Karp I just feel like GM crew underestimated the grinding that Brodie does in order to do videos. GM is super laid back while Brodie does blogs, course reviews, challenges, and so on. I still watch both
Good good has already ran off two original members as it is. It seems pretty clear where the issue lies. Now they have guys with very small channels hopping on. I guarantee Kyle Berkshire will be done with them sooner than later.
Garrett dodged a bullet with Brodie. Brodie is a egomaniac and a quitter. He will soon be a failure at disc golf too. Get rid of Matt and gm_golf is Golden...
Brodie Smith is a hard working man who deserves every bit of fame he gets. He works extremely hard at everything he does. His social media skills earned him more opportunities and brand deals than GM golf can ever dream of. He deserves no heat. He carried his weight and only tried to help bro five.
@@jacksonrussel2536 Brodie Smith is a jackass. He has acted like a child challenging me to personal 1 on 1 when I'm a senior citizen. His ego is extremely fragile and he will fail at disc golf just like he failed at real golf.
@@jacksonrussel2536 GM_GOLF has an anchor around it's neck called Matt. I think friendship will kill that channel. It will only be a modestly successful channel as long as Matt is part of the on screen team.
Gene Kerr Phew, you sound sad. Hope you cheer up! Don’t let your sadness drive you to defame other people’s character with lies. As a senior citizen, I hope you also find your wisdom from your old age soon!
Watching this as good good is extremely successful
Brodie seems like a control freak
Yeah I mean a 30+ year old hanging out with kids who just graduated.... gonna have some weird shit going on.
So far, garret, Matt, and Stephen have benefited by leaving this greatly
They all had channels before brofive. There all just spoiled rich kids
@@davedoesthingsdreaded nah they ain’t rich they are just god at what they do wdym
@@davedoesthingsdreaded their*
@@paytonyee7204 they're*
@@aidenkennedy2277 garret definitely got money before his RUclips channel. The evident on the way he got his parents involved.
Brodie has to be envious of good good now…
Well it’s easy to see whose fault it was since the GM crew have launched GOOD GOOD flawlessly. Who cares if Brodie has 2.2 million subs? His videos were getting less views at the time.
I watched every second of Brodie’s video too haha
I had to watch it more than once to make the video man I know the pain haha
@@mfunc7095 the gm golf channel was Garrett and Micah. Matt came in way way later. Your research is simply flawed.
It's interesting watching this video now after seeing Brodie transition to Disc Golf, and Good Good launching and growing so much. It seems like the Good Good boys knew they had something but didn't know how to properly execute it, while Brodie had a set road map of how he felt things should progress. I found myself siding with Brodie originally, but seeing Good Good blow up, while at the same time being able to follow the guys on their individual stuff (like Steve's golf course he is building) has been enjoyable. Looking back I think you nailed it on the head, it was just the wrong timing. I hope everyone involved in this situation continues to be successful in the future.
Good Good said on their podcast that the chemistry just wasn’t right. Brodie was in his 30s and all the GM guys were 20 at the time. The fit was always awkward and came off weird in the Brofive videos. Like a college guy showing up to a high school party. Brodie definitely being an overbearing personality and basically rushing the process and bringing in lawyers and contracts would have turned me off as well. The entire thing felt very transactional and was always going to fail.
It's interesting though because their chemistry with Bob Does Sports is great.
Can you tell me the podcast they talk about it in?
Brodie is just a douche. That's why it didn't work.
Seems like it's worked out fairly well for both sides at this point. Brodie moved on into the disc golf world and seems to be enjoying that new challenge.
The GM guys have basically created a new version of BroFive with their Good Good channel, but in the form that they wanted originally with all of them all maintaining their own separate channels. They're all doing well too, with Garrett's channel at over 300k subs now and both Matt and Stephen having over 100k. They all have their own merch and seem to work together and help each other out with cross promotion.
I don't think you can really blame either side, they just weren't on the same page with how they wanted to run stuff and it wasn't a good fit. Brodie had more experience in the social media world and seemed pretty set in his ways on how he wanted things to be run. I can't blame him for that, as obviously it's worked well for him and he's had a ton of success with it. But I also don't blame the GM guys for wanting to do things their own way, which they've clearly also had a fair bit of success with in the past year and don't seem to have the personal issues that they had with Brodie. It's possible BroFive could've blown up even bigger, but if none of them were going to be happy in that situation, then there would be no point anyway.
Brodie is a jackass
This was perfect thanks
Garrett/Micah/Matt/Steve/Bubbie and the new guy > than Brodie. Just from an entertainment and appeal perspective they are light years ahead of Brodie...even if Brodie has subscribers. When it’s all done Good Good and GM__golf wins
Do you mean Grant?
Brodie is too old for these kids. That what I see. They don’t mix well on a full time basis. Even Bryson seems too old for these kids
Immature boys not ready to be men. Getting parents on the phone, ghosting, lying and intentionally not promoting the BroFive.... that’s just annoying passive aggressive unprofessionalism. If I was Brodie I’d be pissed too. Don’t say you’re gonna do something, have multiple talks about it, agree and then not do it, be a bog baby about it, lie and run from your problems.
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you say that but now gm golf has nearly 300,000 more followers…
None of this matters now because they have Good Good
I was never a big fan of brodie I'd way rather watch good good and gm golf I love those guys
imo the gm golf before bradly was better
sorry for the late reply tho
I've watched all the vids and explanations. This is by far the best breakdown of why they split. Good vid.
I think you completely missed the point of Brodie’s video/explanation. He did not boil it down to him working too hard. He essentially said, I was more invested than them, that’s why it did not end up working. Not “i was too invested that’s why it didn’t work”
Maybe I didn’t fully get my point across, I meant that he boiled his own faults down to being to invested/ intense not that he boiled down the reason for the split to that, I go on to say that the reason was the difference in commitment and why that difference may exist eg the difference in viewer base the recentness of gm golfs success etc
What he really said is the other guys needs security so they kept uploading and growing thier channels brodie doesn't so iets easy to say I'm more invested. Basically if all of them was big stars this would have worked
mfunc those are two separate points... C C is correct
did you watch GM__Golf's video? Someone was lying because Brodie said he didn't know if GM was out of brofive or not, but Garrett said that he told Brodie over the phone that he was out of the group. Also, Matt wrote on a community post that he didn't want to make a video and turn things into a "he said he said" thing. I think Garrett just really just did not want to work with Brodie. Garrett knew how big the opportunity was and how much money he could be making; he said that he told Matt and Stephen that they could stay in Brofive for that reason. Garrett just didn't like working with Brodie for whatever reason.
Michael Azzato it’s all Brodie’s fault for putting garret in that position, Brodie’s so selfish
@@justyouraveragewhitedude9748 I agree that Brodie shouldn't have done that. Also, they all should've been more upfront with the fans. They just made videos in reaction to hate comments. No one said anything about why Brofive ended until everyone kept bashing Brodie. All members of Brofive could've and should've told the fans that it was over much earlier and this drama wouldn't have happened (or at least not to the level that it did).
Michael Azzato true
lol any grown man 18+ getting their parents to fight their battles needs to self reflect a bit. Famous last words, "It's not about the money." it's always about money.
I know I'm late to the party, but I'm just coming across this. I think your analysis of Brodie is incorrect. I don't have a problem with your analysis of his (self-admittedly) overbearing nature, but to characterize Brodie as having a safe place to fall is off. Social media followings are tenuous and fickle. The idea that Brodie had the least to lose is exactly 100%. He had the most to lose. Moreover, I've looked and I haven't see GM's response. I love both channel's content and I support them both. I'm just not sure that Brodie is the clear bad guy here. Chalk it up to a mis-match of experience. I bet if Garrett was to respond today, I would like to think he would agree.
I think I agree with you... experience seems to be a huge part. Garret did respond but not sure if he took down or private his video? Let’s just say Brodie did a much better job responding than Garrett...
Garrett posted a response then deleted it lol. But IMO it was a strange match anyway.
@@aaron_b. Garrett is a RAT, he is all about the youtube money and he would step on anyone for a little fame and fortune. I think the word for that is DOUCHE.
Never knew this… love the Good Good guys and Brodie always annoyed me. 😂 I never knew they were connected. Bye Brodie!
@@Victus2000 nah Matt’s the annoying one
why the black socks from Brodie?
And now the channel is uploading again
You must have not watched the actual video. They have to post those last course vlogs because they were essentially paid to go there and play the course so they are holding up their end of the deal by giving them the free publicity on the course
When the grown up try to come in and take it away from you, you’ll hand them a card that says CEO bitch” Justine Timberlake
Why did bro5 have 4guys?
A deep philosophical question that no one may ever know
@@mfunc7095 I would like it on my desk by morning
J Sal I’ll make a video about it for you :P
They explained it early. Bro 5 is because they wanted to get viewers involved so essentially you are the 5th member of bro5
@@benzeelie6882 what if a girl is watching. Kind of sexist
A lot of drama for a short lived channel that didn’t have much chemistry to begin with.
They should have just kept Bro5 as a nice little side gig...
If it blew up... great.
If not no harm... no foul.
Why should Garret throw his channel and merch down the drain???
Or Brody for that matter?
Everyone should have just been chill.
Make your video louder holy crap.
I’m super late to this but the sidemen do have there own individual clothing like illvzn and zrk I think they did when this video was made but not sure
Brodys golf Channel was dead and he didn't have much talent compared to GM you could see the writing on the wall
Brodie wanted to be like dude perfect, a group of people with different personalities. Gm wanted it to be Gm golf and Brodie. It would be a group within a group. That doesn’t really work.
it does work. look at garret now.
Right after they split Garrets buddy who used to do Videos with him came back.It looks in my opinion his old buddy saw him making money,wanted back in.Then on top of a buddy wanting back in,his parents got on his ear and said you need more money and a bigger split.Its sad because they could have been doing amazing by now,making a ton and having awesome videos.
Brodie is a jackass. In 5 years, Brodie will just be a wanna be disc golfer... Good Good will have millions of subs
@@genekerr8762 no they won’t. Their followers will mature in time and the silliness that they do will get dull. Also as they get into serious relationships their priorities will change as well. I would be shocked if they ever get more than 500k subscribers. Also, they never should have gone into business with Brodie anyway. I think Brody was using them because his fan base is getting older and he needed younger viewers, like the one GM golf has.
Currently 520K subs, and blowing up in the golf community. I know guys in their 60"s that love watching these guys. I literally know nothing about Brodie, but after watching everyone's videos. As a group, the videos he's in had the worst chemistry. Felt to forced I guess.
His parents were rightfully concerned about a guy in his 30s basically seeing a blowing up channel of guys just out of high school and bringing in lawyers and contracts immediately in an attempt to piggyback off what GM was doing. I wouldn’t have let my son go into business with Brodie. The chemistry wasn’t there, and while I’m sure Brodies a decent dude a lot of what he was doing seemed rushed, overbearing, and selfish (even if he didn’t recognize it).
Brodie gets 50k views now, good good gets 500k. Gj not signing imo
Ive heard the story from both sides and the GM crew really messed up. They were too simple minded and couldnt see the big picture. They needed Brodie way more than Brodie needed them.
Turns out Good Good is way more fire 🔥 than Brodie will ever be
@@genekerr8762 fax
What’s the view count on their videos?
@@bolsasdeleche4896 around 1m minimum on the GoodGood channel, less on their separate ones
Dude, let it go - you’re fueling speculation for no reason.
Its over, its a shame but move on
I understand your point however speculation and conversation is part of youtube, as for the no reason it has brought many new people to my channel and allowed new people to see my content whether they enjoy it or not I am happy just to see people engaging with my content positively or negatively
mfunc don’t agree youtube is for that - good luck with the growth
@@obijonkenobi6668 thanks man i appreciate your thoughts either way thats why I like the platform everyone gets their say!
Sounds like little kids in a man’s world to me
I think they do have security because they all still live with mommy and daddy right? Idk either way it's a bummer and I still think it's all Garrett's fault. They blew a huge opportunity imo.
Well it looks like the loser was Brodie after all
The best is Brodie told them that anyone one of them is replaceable and then they decided that Brodie was the replaceable one.
It seems to me if they didnt want to make it into a big business thats not really an issue with me
Has gm golf split because Steven and Matt are with a different guy
I don’t know to be honest It seems Garrett has gone with some other guys and the other two have found another guy but I doubt the drama will come out cause it’s probably money related
Bro they literally all play together, they just all have their own channels and content. They cross promote.
Brodie's video definitely did not need to be that long. He spent time rambling for over an hour and there wasn't much substance to most of it. He tried to stay objective but ended up throwing a lot of shade on the other guys. Then Garrett, Matt, and Stephen took a lot of heat from it all. Everyone was against Brodie and then he flipped it around to most people being on his side (at least whoever was commenting on the videos). He could've kept the video to 5-10 minutes and just said that there was a difference in viewpoints on the direction of the channel and that sometimes people don't all get along.
All their merch is bad
In the end this boiled down to the gm golf boys being unbelievably ignorant and shortsighted. They had an opportunity to essentially ride Brodie’s coat tails to fame behind his massive following. In the end, they only hurt their own brand by appearing childish by the way they handled this situation and not following through with something that could have been very successful.
To an extent, however perhaps they didnt want to ride brodies coat tails. For example if I had the kind of success view and merchandising wise that the gm golf boys did I dont know if id be willing to give up my individuality to be a part of something that granted would make me more financially successful but at the cost of autonomy if that makes sense.
Noah Karp I just feel like GM crew underestimated the grinding that Brodie does in order to do videos. GM is super laid back while Brodie does blogs, course reviews, challenges, and so on. I still watch both
@@gomd3rd Good Good is fire 🔥
Good good has already ran off two original members as it is. It seems pretty clear where the issue lies. Now they have guys with very small channels hopping on. I guarantee Kyle Berkshire will be done with them sooner than later.
@@Quadfather2016 this comment hasn't aged well...
Garrett dodged a bullet with Brodie. Brodie is a egomaniac and a quitter. He will soon be a failure at disc golf too. Get rid of Matt and gm_golf is Golden...
Gene Kerr whats wrong with matt?
Brodie Smith is a hard working man who deserves every bit of fame he gets. He works extremely hard at everything he does. His social media skills earned him more opportunities and brand deals than GM golf can ever dream of. He deserves no heat. He carried his weight and only tried to help bro five.
@@jacksonrussel2536 Brodie Smith is a jackass. He has acted like a child challenging me to personal 1 on 1 when I'm a senior citizen. His ego is extremely fragile and he will fail at disc golf just like he failed at real golf.
@@jacksonrussel2536 GM_GOLF has an anchor around it's neck called Matt. I think friendship will kill that channel. It will only be a modestly successful channel as long as Matt is part of the on screen team.
Gene Kerr Phew, you sound sad. Hope you cheer up! Don’t let your sadness drive you to defame other people’s character with lies. As a senior citizen, I hope you also find your wisdom from your old age soon!
Why is this nonsense in my recommend ? Bro 5? Sounds like an 80s rap group....
I don’t know my guy but thanks for giving it a look
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