However Joy makes the most sense so what's your point. Just because they played that doesn't make them experts on all things. Acho's expectations for a rookie are insane especially with GB and Det in the same division.
Literally bro especially Joy and Shady smfh they’re not experts they have only slightly more knowledge than the casual fan about any team that isn’t one of the 3 or 4 glamour franchises or a team they root for personally
@psychkosys the fact that he plays for the bears has nothing to do with the odds being against him. The current regime was not there for 150 years. He is the first QB that this regime has drafted. The odds are against him based on the fact that only 5 have ever done it as a rookie. BUT all 5 of those rookies have done it in the past 12 years. So with that being said, the odds do get a little better if recent QBs are starting to do it more often. That's how odds breakdown. You can't just use the past for current odds because everything is different.
@@psychkosys The odds would be against him, but he has DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and Kmet. CW could very well this season be sniffing 4K yards. I do not expect it though.
What’s crazy about Caleb is that we have yet to see him surrounded by great teammates. He’s always been the best player on his team. This season that likely won’t be the case so I am excited to see him in a situation where he doesn’t have to do it all.
joy sitting here and lecturing a former nfl player on the difference between college and pro ball is the epitome of social media and women thinking they know ball like dudes who played in the league lol
But Acho was sorry. Even Shady, who was significantly better than Acho, is agreeing with her. Acho is putting a lot of sauce on his expectations and downplaying the level of difficulty of playing in the NFL vs college.
Bring back Dave!! Give Dave his flowers homies. Stat based humble takes. 🌺 Dave vs Shady used to make Speak! 🗣️ Wish Dave had a permanent seat which he earned. Cowboys vs Eagles talk, is entertaining with them. Plus Dave gives reasonable takes, without pushing false narratives. Not annoying like Skip’s Cowboys takes.
@@thisguy8373Nigga you being a professional hater. You keep bringing up one collegiate game tho suggest he wont be successful yet he has 30+ games of him being elite as soon as he stepped on a college field. If you say his talent isn’t unreal then you just don’t have a trained eye for the sport
People are insane, size is a skill in the NFL. You’re no longer running against linebackers that couldn’t make it on scout team. You’re playing against grown men. You’re playing behind lineman who are 6 foot eight. I have yet to see a small quarterback be amazing their first season
@@MikkiChavez mike Vick was 62, Steve Young with 62 and built… Kyler Murray is hurt all the time. Steve and Michael are the same size as Aaron Rodgers they are not undersized . Caleb Williams is 3 inches to 4 inches shorter.
@@Liquiddna89blaa it’s also seeing over your own line. Most college lineman are short and big. Then you get in the pros and they’re 6 foot four and up. Look what Russell Wilson has to do. He has a bootleg just to see the middle of the field.
i have MUCH higher expectations for Caleb and the Bears... if we take into account all the moves the Bears have made this offseason and combine all that with Caleb, i do NOT put the Super Bowl out of reach for this NEW Bears team... thats right... i not only expect this Bears team to make the playoffs, i expect the Bears to make a deep run in the said playoffs...
@@thisguy8373 nothing is guaranteed... i only stated MY very realistic expectations... Mahomes was selected at #10 in the 2017 Draft, and he won the SB in his second season.. Caleb is light years ahead of Mahomes already... the time for MY Bears has arrived.. and if Poles can somehow give up the farm by trading the #9 pick to the Cards and snag wideout Marvin Harrison Jr at #4??? its game over for the NFL for the next 15 years...
She has more experience in covering the NFL, has spoken to more NFL players, has family that has played in the NFL. So yeah hasn’t played in the league like yourself, but is 1000x more qualified to speak on the league then yourself 😉
@@Liquiddna89blaa she talks in extreme generalities. You never see her breaking down plays like Acho and James. I’d argue she needs to do more homework, become capable of talking scheme. Dave didn’t play, but when on… he comes pretty strong with stats, and even talks some positional personnel scheme.
@@randomupdates4013 I can agree with you with some of that, but not all. I believe she does her homework, because how can you not when you are sitting next to 3 ex NFL players. You need to be on top of your game. I think the panel (and any panel) needs to be versatile and I feel she comes at takes from a different perspective, which sometimes brings clarity. I mean how many times do you hear JJ responding in agreement to what Joy has to say. Most shows I believe.
@@Liquiddna89blaa I think on The Herd, and first stages of Speak she was quite a bit more genuine personality wise. Now she’s doing the skip Bayless, overstate takes in generalities and play up a persona. She can do better than this. I’m not just gonna give a pass cause she’s beautiful. Objective opinion on how she’s handling segments recently
@@austinpickens7611 Bro said he is "most likely" to reach the HOF over all other prospects, and he's yet to play a single game! If that's not glazing, then I don't know what is
@@austinpickens7611 Jamarcus Russell was at one point a generational talent. How'd that go ? It's not always about the talent is all i'm saying. WHERE you end up is a big if not THE determining factor as to how good you will be
It’s literally the same sport. When you say it’s a different sport you are saying it’s not football Y’all said he was better than Justin without playing a snap if he’s better than nfl qbs before taking a snap then he should have the expectations of those players he’s better than them
@@Wasssup3 buddy that's why I said the word if😭😭🤣 your acting like I assumed that's what you said but being way better than field would be leading the bears to the playoffs considering field never did it🤷🏾♂️
@@evileyevalaus I said he has to be better than fields. That don't mean in anyway he has to get more wins. Also how do you claim "if" but you use 100 percent that literally makes no sense. It's obvious hes a rookie, but we cant act like his offense is weak. All he has to do is prove hes better. Williams ceiling is so much higher than fields.
Good piece! As a Bears fan I expect the most from Caleb Williams. He'll be tested, scouted, and tested some more, but football is football at any level. Caleb Williams will be fine.
As good as Rodgers?....... Rodgers is the greatest passer the NFL has ever seen! Nobody is a better passer than Rodgers. The most accurate QB IN NFL HISTORY....... THAT FRUIT CAKE WILL NEVER BE RELEVANT
Can’t compare Caleb Bears team to any team Justin Fields has had. No rookie has ever walked into a sweeter situation then Caleb Williams in the history of football
The thing about Trevor Lawrence is he went to a true dead last team that didn't prepare him roster-wise. She Joy always brings him up like he's a bust. When his numbers are decent. Rookie year - 4000 total yards, 14 TDs(total) and 17ints. 2222 year - 4500 total yards, 30 (total) TDs and 8ints playoffs and playoff win 2023 year - 4400 total yards, 29Tds(total), 12ints He's played the best from his draft class of QBs. The Jags haven't been that good in awhile. If it wasn't for Strouds theatrics the Jaguars would of made the playoffs 2 years in a row. She needs to quit using him as an example!
Cj got to 4k with way less talent from the running back to the receivers. In Caleb division they should be looking to playoffs I’m not saying win but playoffs absolutely
Every draftee’s goals are the same: Prove the doubters/haters wrong; Same team, 12-20 yrs (dep. on position); Make the HoF; Give back to the community; Retire their parents; Help family (college, health care, etc.) It’s always the same stuff! Idk why reporters keep asking these guys the questions that will elicit different versions of the same answers.
Joy is right about Trevor Lawrence. Acho is trying to downplay the expectations for Trevor Lawrence however Trevor was more celebrated throughout his whole college career starting as a freshman. Trevor was considered a can't miss prospect.
Trevor was also compared to being the best QB prospect since Andrew luck. Now everyone is acting like that didn’t happen and now Caleb is the best prospect since Luck.
people are so delusional with all the hype of caleb williams, the generational talent QB compared to Patrick's mahomes, expecting him to live up to the hype taking the Chicago Bears to the playoffs and superbowl his first rookie season in the NFL college is completely different than Professional League NFL it's just not that easy
I get what joy is saying, but I still would LIKE for them to get the playoffs. I think it’s entirely possible and I HOPE it happens especially with the talent and with the way he played in college, would love to see him break some rookie record, be it passing yards, TDs rushing yards etc.
Bears play a last-place schedule. They're arguably the best team to ever have the #1 pick... Their D can be Top 5 this season (especially if they draft the best defender at pick 9) they have the talent, better coaches than last year AND the confidence to beat their NFCN opponents - watch them take the North immediately
Every week they try to down play what expectations they previously said ahead of time. For a number one overall considering all the talent Caleb has himself and the type of talent he has coming into from day one . There is not many situations with a number one overall coming into a stacked roster
With this Bears slightly improved defense that was nearly the best in the last half of this last season and a significantly improved offense and the rest of the draft.... This is what we expect from the Bears and Williams. So that we have the minimum expectations and the "too high" expectations. 4000-5000 yards passing, 30-40 TDs, 10-13 wins, a playoff berth - NFC Championship game appearance. Cam Newton, Justin Herbert did the best on paper. CJ Stroud maybe the best full season rookie QB playoff run. ( I know Purdy had one too but😏.) We've never seen a generational rookie QB join an NFL team "this good on paper." If he translates to the NFL and plays all 17 games based on his college game average that's almost 300 yards a game and 2.5 TDs a game = 5000 yards and 40 TD's. I think he's intelligent enough to process the NFL game. It's about the matchups. Will his receivers be open and the offensive line give him time to pass? These are luxuries that most rookie quarterbacks getting drafted early in the draft don't get with the team they join. Then a proven defense! I don't see any reason why Caleb Williams doesn't put on the best rookie performance and numbers we have ever seen in the history of the NFL!
If Caleb couldn't lift USC to 10 wins when he was the best player on the field in almost every game, why should anyone expect him the elevate the Bears when he isn't going to be the best player on the field as much?
Joy.. I respect your view. As a sister of a nfl legend. A personal life long view and evaluation ablity different from most." you need to be at this level". RESPECT. QM3 Chris Ingram. MASTER HELMSMAN. USS Rainier
The nfl needs to extended the season for another month, add one more game and then add 2 more bye weeks. The offseason is so brutal with how these guys yapp about the same stuff
Joy is right, Caleb isn’t ten first “generational” prospect When Trevor was drafted he was -50000 to go first in the draft Caleb right now is a -20000 The hype and praise around Trevor was ridiculous
They all saying to ignore the rookie year. But thats not what they did with justin fields. Fields only okayed for 3 years and he only played his rookie year cause the staring QB got injured
I want to see how the Bears are gonna draft especially that 9th pick. Cause if they draft Dallas Turner with Sweat in the other side and they get another WR in the 2nd round boiii I’m calling 11-6 cause their schedule is really favorable
A division 2 QB in Tyson Bagent won 2 games with the Bears. Caleb Williams will look amazing if he plays average for bears QB play. Saying the bears are far behind the packers and lions is crazy considering we got so much better and they didn’t and we owned the lions 2x last year. Don’t sleep…
He may be a rookie, but he will have veterans out there helping him! Just like college, he was throwing to college players against college players with college help. Everything he will be doing will be to and with professional players!
Maybe I'm missing something. I don't see Caleb williams as a better qb prospect coming out of college than Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow. I think he is going to be a really good player, especially with the weapons they already have in Chicago.
I hate how Joy makes it seem like thr bears were awful last year. There were literally two games away from playoffs. Bears actually didnt get eliminated from playoff contention until the 2nd to last game
This is ridiculous. If Caleb throws for 4000 yards with the bears roster it would be ridiculous not to make the playoffs. On paper the bears literally have a top 5 team. There are very few teams that have a roster like the bears. The chiefs won the superbowl and they don’t have a better roster than the bears, they just have a solid roster with the best QB in the league
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Joy will you marry me?😍
You should want to be the greatest. I like that mindset Caleb
But it just won't happen, one loss he's off crying🚬, just as he did against ND
@@thisguy8373didn’t cry against ND
@@hmmmm4902see that’s the thing with these people, they can’t get their facts right😂
@@thisguy8373you’ve clearly never watched Caleb Williams
@@tangotango-gs6lp wasn’t talking to you lil bro
I'm with Joy and Shady on this one. Elite pros struggle in the NFL. Let Caleb play in the NFL and see how he adjust. Too many expectations.
agreed.... flying awfully close to the sun before taping cleats for a single nfl game....
He said this himself he put on his own expectation
You don’t know ball bro
Hearing Joy argue with professional players about what it’s like to be out there in an NFL game vs a college game is insane.
However Joy makes the most sense so what's your point. Just because they played that doesn't make them experts on all things. Acho's expectations for a rookie are insane especially with GB and Det in the same division.
Women.
@@Keith-yf9wqIt definitely makes them more experts on more things than joy 😂 cmon now bruh
often she make more sense than them. only one who make more sense than her more often is james jones.
It's cringe worthy.
I hate listening to the national media talk about the Bears 🐻 because 90% of the time they don’t know what they are talking about.
Watch it ends up being another Jets disaster happened to the bears 💀
Oh you should be a BROWNS FAN LOL
Literally bro especially Joy and Shady smfh they’re not experts they have only slightly more knowledge than the casual fan about any team that isn’t one of the 3 or 4 glamour franchises or a team they root for personally
Acho thinks he's smart, but he's very silly.
On one hand they hype him up, on the other they have zero expectations. That’s not how it works
Only 5 quarterbacks in NFL history have passed for over 4,000 yds as rookies. That is "generational."
You know acho has to glaze to the extreme
This right here is one of my favorite comments
Haha and 0 quarterbacks for th Bears have ever reached 4k yards. The odds are against him
@psychkosys the fact that he plays for the bears has nothing to do with the odds being against him. The current regime was not there for 150 years. He is the first QB that this regime has drafted. The odds are against him based on the fact that only 5 have ever done it as a rookie. BUT all 5 of those rookies have done it in the past 12 years. So with that being said, the odds do get a little better if recent QBs are starting to do it more often. That's how odds breakdown. You can't just use the past for current odds because everything is different.
@@psychkosys The odds would be against him, but he has DJ Moore, Keenan Allen and Kmet. CW could very well this season be sniffing 4K yards. I do not expect it though.
If caleb has 4000 yards, we should be winning playoffs games. Especially with thus defense
What’s crazy about Caleb is that we have yet to see him surrounded by great teammates. He’s always been the best player on his team. This season that likely won’t be the case so I am excited to see him in a situation where he doesn’t have to do it all.
Shady tellin acho “maybe your entrance was easier” is such a Harrisburg slick diss 😂
Acho talking like when he played he was good 😂lol
😂😂😂
joy sitting here and lecturing a former nfl player on the difference between college and pro ball is the epitome of social media and women thinking they know ball like dudes who played in the league lol
Yea, it drives me crazy I just want her to zip it
she is getting carried away
Perfectly said!!!
But Acho was sorry. Even Shady, who was significantly better than Acho, is agreeing with her. Acho is putting a lot of sauce on his expectations and downplaying the level of difficulty of playing in the NFL vs college.
@@rodneyford2573 how do you know ?
listening to Joy talk about football is like nails on a chalkboard
But looking at her isn't half bad
Ah.. sexism. 😊
fr zero knowledge 😂
Y’all are dumb
Lol yea
Bring back Dave!! Give Dave his flowers homies. Stat based humble takes. 🌺 Dave vs Shady used to make Speak! 🗣️ Wish Dave had a permanent seat which he earned. Cowboys vs Eagles talk, is entertaining with them. Plus Dave gives reasonable takes, without pushing false narratives. Not annoying like Skip’s Cowboys takes.
Big Dave Batista
and bring another girl on set to rizz up shady and cause drama
@@sonseed7541 ohh interesting. How about Jenny from undisputed back in day?
@@randomupdates4013 yeah and remember that other girl that came on he set she was here for one video tho
He Bullied Dave
Acho is crazy 😂 😂 looks the same as Johnny football in college 😂
Man they putting the cart waaaaaayyyyyy before the horse on Caleb Williams though I agree the kid is unreal talent
😂 ya ok..."unreal talent " gets tossed around real easy
@@thisguy8373Nigga you being a professional hater. You keep bringing up one collegiate game tho suggest he wont be successful yet he has 30+ games of him being elite as soon as he stepped on a college field. If you say his talent isn’t unreal then you just don’t have a trained eye for the sport
You would know something about being tossed around wouldn't you@@thisguy8373
@@KCCheezain’t that the truth, the media is a joke
College vs NFL is kids vs adults.
Finally someone gets it
EXACTLY!
But both are football it's not a different sport!
@@justinrakestraw4142 university marathon vs olympic marathon, same sport too.....
People are insane, size is a skill in the NFL. You’re no longer running against linebackers that couldn’t make it on scout team. You’re playing against grown men. You’re playing behind lineman who are 6 foot eight. I have yet to see a small quarterback be amazing their first season
Kyle Murray? Mike Vick? Steve Young?
Agreed. I’m sure getting hit by the likes of Micah, max or Bosa is a lot different to getting hit by a college kid
@@MikkiChavez mike Vick was 62, Steve Young with 62 and built… Kyler Murray is hurt all the time.
Steve and Michael are the same size as Aaron Rodgers they are not undersized . Caleb Williams is 3 inches to 4 inches shorter.
@@Liquiddna89blaa it’s also seeing over your own line. Most college lineman are short and big. Then you get in the pros and they’re 6 foot four and up. Look what Russell Wilson has to do. He has a bootleg just to see the middle of the field.
How tall is Caleb, everyone says he’s a Myhomie comp. But Pat is 6’3” 225-230, how big is Caleb
i have MUCH higher expectations for Caleb and the Bears... if we take into account all the moves the Bears have made this offseason and combine all that with Caleb, i do NOT put the Super Bowl out of reach for this NEW Bears team... thats right... i not only expect this Bears team to make the playoffs, i expect the Bears to make a deep run in the said playoffs...
😂 ya ok, soon as bs happens oh SB , oh SB... stop the cap..not gonna happen. Only thing that's guaranteed is William's crying
Bro you are high
@@thisguy8373 nothing is guaranteed... i only stated MY very realistic expectations... Mahomes was selected at #10 in the 2017 Draft, and he won the SB in his second season.. Caleb is light years ahead of Mahomes already... the time for MY Bears has arrived.. and if Poles can somehow give up the farm by trading the #9 pick to the Cards and snag wideout Marvin Harrison Jr at #4??? its game over for the NFL for the next 15 years...
@@Slickmac2323 i don't get "high"... but i suppose you could say i am very "high" on MY Bears AND on Caleb Williams's abilities...
Joy and I are qualified. Played same amount in NFL 😮😮😮😮
She has more experience in covering the NFL, has spoken to more NFL players, has family that has played in the NFL.
So yeah hasn’t played in the league like yourself, but is 1000x more qualified to speak on the league then yourself 😉
Her Brother is former Defensive player of the year and Hall of Famer Jason Taylor 🐬. She knows a little something about football.
@@Liquiddna89blaa she talks in extreme generalities. You never see her breaking down plays like Acho and James. I’d argue she needs to do more homework, become capable of talking scheme. Dave didn’t play, but when on… he comes pretty strong with stats, and even talks some positional personnel scheme.
@@randomupdates4013 I can agree with you with some of that, but not all. I believe she does her homework, because how can you not when you are sitting next to 3 ex NFL players. You need to be on top of your game.
I think the panel (and any panel) needs to be versatile and I feel she comes at takes from a different perspective, which sometimes brings clarity.
I mean how many times do you hear JJ responding in agreement to what Joy has to say. Most shows I believe.
@@Liquiddna89blaa I think on The Herd, and first stages of Speak she was quite a bit more genuine personality wise. Now she’s doing the skip Bayless, overstate takes in generalities and play up a persona. She can do better than this. I’m not just gonna give a pass cause she’s beautiful. Objective opinion on how she’s handling segments recently
Call him crazy
But yall should be rooting for him because if he can’t stop mahomes then it’s game over for the nfl
😂 lies... your subjecting bs into a non-existent reality. He will go off crying when the L's keep hitting
It ain’t the bears or lions or rams. It’s the Zebras 🦓.
Caleb to Keenan Allen is going to be nice
Until Allen gets injured, which WILL happen. We need another WR.
Watch the bears draft Caleb and drake maye
@monsterjournal better than emotional William's...folks be thinking to hard, expecting William's to be good..he will be crying after every loss
What tell you see Caleb to Moore or Kmet❤❤❤
Keenan and Cal 😂
Acho's glazing of Caleb is next level
It’s not glazing. This is what people are saying he is lol.
@@austinpickens7611 Bro said he is "most likely" to reach the HOF over all other prospects, and he's yet to play a single game! If that's not glazing, then I don't know what is
@@Steve-rn3bs no other prospect in this draft is considered generational.
@@austinpickens7611 Based on talent, I agree. But not based on situation/roster
@@austinpickens7611 Jamarcus Russell was at one point a generational talent. How'd that go ? It's not always about the talent is all i'm saying. WHERE you end up is a big if not THE determining factor as to how good you will be
The Chicago Bears had a great run back in the 80’s so they are building a team hopefully they can make it back to the top again
It’s literally the same sport. When you say it’s a different sport you are saying it’s not football
Y’all said he was better than Justin without playing a snap if he’s better than nfl qbs before taking a snap then he should have the expectations of those players he’s better than them
Caleb should be way better than field. Thats the expectation.
If your expectations is for him to take the bears to the playoffs as a rookie your expectations is way to high💯
@@evileyevalausbears have one of the easiest schedules next year 😂
@@evileyevalaus buddy i ain’t mention playoffs once 🤣
@@Wasssup3 buddy that's why I said the word if😭😭🤣 your acting like I assumed that's what you said but being way better than field would be leading the bears to the playoffs considering field never did it🤷🏾♂️
@@evileyevalaus I said he has to be better than fields. That don't mean in anyway he has to get more wins. Also how do you claim "if" but you use 100 percent that literally makes no sense. It's obvious hes a rookie, but we cant act like his offense is weak. All he has to do is prove hes better. Williams ceiling is so much higher than fields.
Bears fan, show no mercy on Williams. We had an experienced QB.
For the first time shady actually sounded competent
Acho with the USC colors
Someone tell her that 2-7-1 is 10 games not 17
Chicago is a tough place to do that. Especially if Justin does well in Pittsburgh. Chicago had it right and they fumbled
Keenan Allen ain't gone like yall showing Caleb with his jersey # on 🤣🤣🤣
Good piece! As a Bears fan I expect the most from Caleb Williams. He'll be tested, scouted, and tested some more, but football is football at any level. Caleb Williams will be fine.
I mean let’s be REAL !! It is the same sport Joy !! Lmfao 🤣
He'd be lucky to be as good as Rodgers.
As good as Rodgers?....... Rodgers is the greatest passer the NFL has ever seen! Nobody is a better passer than Rodgers. The most accurate QB IN NFL HISTORY....... THAT FRUIT CAKE WILL NEVER BE RELEVANT
Anybody would be lucky enough to be as good as Rogers the f*** you mean
@@jasonmartinez7202the most accurate is actually Drew Brees but go off
@imnova7822 acho seemed to think it was joke
He be lucky to be good.. yall blowing hot air, William's going to cry after his first and second L..
They gotta get this Joy lady off this show. Holy I’m done watching this her voice, her not knowing ball = excruciating
Can’t compare Caleb Bears team to any team Justin Fields has had. No rookie has ever walked into a sweeter situation then Caleb Williams in the history of football
The thing about Trevor Lawrence is he went to a true dead last team that didn't prepare him roster-wise. She Joy always brings him up like he's a bust. When his numbers are decent.
Rookie year - 4000 total yards, 14 TDs(total) and 17ints.
2222 year - 4500 total yards, 30 (total) TDs and 8ints playoffs and playoff win
2023 year - 4400 total yards, 29Tds(total), 12ints
He's played the best from his draft class of QBs. The Jags haven't been that good in awhile. If it wasn't for Strouds theatrics the Jaguars would of made the playoffs 2 years in a row. She needs to quit using him as an example!
Acho was a three year starter in college and road the bench in the NFL and he like ain’t no difference 😂😂
Cj got to 4k with way less talent from the running back to the receivers. In Caleb division they should be looking to playoffs I’m not saying win but playoffs absolutely
Every draftee’s goals are the same:
Prove the doubters/haters wrong;
Same team, 12-20 yrs (dep. on position);
Make the HoF;
Give back to the community;
Retire their parents;
Help family (college, health care, etc.)
It’s always the same stuff! Idk why reporters keep asking these guys the questions that will elicit different versions of the same answers.
Caleb was going against 95% Another Occupation Guys to quote Joel Klatt i believe. The NFL is a whole other level
Tf does the packers beating the cowboys have to do with Caleb Williams and the bears💀
He won’t live up to the hype
Joy is right about Trevor Lawrence. Acho is trying to downplay the expectations for Trevor Lawrence however Trevor was more celebrated throughout his whole college career starting as a freshman. Trevor was considered a can't miss prospect.
Trevor was also compared to being the best QB prospect since Andrew luck. Now everyone is acting like that didn’t happen and now Caleb is the best prospect since Luck.
Tell joy to shut up
Joy and Shady hate Chicago
Facts
Right bc if Caleb was going to the Jets or Cowboys, they’d be blowing him
They keeping it honest
@boycottpowell9905 nothing Joy says makes sense honest or not. Everytime she speaks I change the channel
How ?? 😂😂
people are so delusional with all the hype of caleb williams, the generational talent QB compared to Patrick's mahomes, expecting him to live up to the hype taking the Chicago Bears to the playoffs and superbowl his first rookie season in the NFL college is completely different than Professional League NFL it's just not that easy
NOBODY said Super Bowl but you
I get what joy is saying, but I still would LIKE for them to get the playoffs. I think it’s entirely possible and I HOPE it happens especially with the talent and with the way he played in college, would love to see him break some rookie record, be it passing yards, TDs rushing yards etc.
The way these mfs move the goalpost is funny asf.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LORD let Caleb Willians play for our beloved Bears for 20 years. PLEASE.
I only watch this show for Shady! I appreciate his opinion.
Honestly he will be extremely lucky to accomplish half of what Arod accomplished
Bears play a last-place schedule. They're arguably the best team to ever have the #1 pick... Their D can be Top 5 this season (especially if they draft the best defender at pick 9) they have the talent, better coaches than last year AND the confidence to beat their NFCN opponents - watch them take the North immediately
Good goal. Good for a young man to believe in himself
Caleb is coming tho
Really, where? Over there..he's got bust written all over him
Every week they try to down play what expectations they previously said ahead of time. For a number one overall considering all the talent Caleb has himself and the type of talent he has coming into from day one . There is not many situations with a number one overall coming into a stacked roster
Joy, just relax baby. We know.
Acho just love contradicting everyone hahahah
I predict 3,700 yards , 32 TD's 22 interceptions . Rookies usually throw a lot of interceptions . That would be a good 1st season for him .
Man shady hit that
With this Bears slightly improved defense that was nearly the best in the last half of this last season and a significantly improved offense and the rest of the draft.... This is what we expect from the Bears and Williams.
So that we have the minimum expectations and the "too high" expectations.
4000-5000 yards passing, 30-40 TDs, 10-13 wins, a playoff berth - NFC Championship game appearance.
Cam Newton, Justin Herbert did the best on paper. CJ Stroud maybe the best full season rookie QB playoff run. ( I know Purdy had one too but😏.)
We've never seen a generational rookie QB join an NFL team "this good on paper."
If he translates to the NFL and plays all 17 games based on his college game average that's almost 300 yards a game and 2.5 TDs a game = 5000 yards and 40 TD's.
I think he's intelligent enough to process the NFL game. It's about the matchups. Will his receivers be open and the offensive line give him time to pass? These are luxuries that most rookie quarterbacks getting drafted early in the draft don't get with the team they join. Then a proven defense!
I don't see any reason why Caleb Williams doesn't put on the best rookie performance and numbers we have ever seen in the history of the NFL!
so they going to act like its not negative 15 degrees with wind in chicago & green bay ? lol
If Caleb couldn't lift USC to 10 wins when he was the best player on the field in almost every game, why should anyone expect him the elevate the Bears when he isn't going to be the best player on the field as much?
Haters are gonna hate. Caleb going to be a Bear media needs to get over the fact they never developed a QB!
Joy.. I respect your view. As a sister of a nfl legend. A personal life long view and evaluation ablity different from most." you need to be at this level". RESPECT. QM3 Chris Ingram. MASTER HELMSMAN. USS Rainier
Hearing Joy say “this is the NFL” to a panel of former NFL players makes me chuckle 😂
Shady has great perspective.
The nfl needs to extended the season for another month, add one more game and then add 2 more bye weeks. The offseason is so brutal with how these guys yapp about the same stuff
Joy is right, Caleb isn’t ten first “generational” prospect
When Trevor was drafted he was -50000 to go first in the draft
Caleb right now is a -20000
The hype and praise around Trevor was ridiculous
You have to be good enough to not get traded.
He might be a good NFL QB, but he will not match the hype.
They all saying to ignore the rookie year. But thats not what they did with justin fields. Fields only okayed for 3 years and he only played his rookie year cause the staring QB got injured
I want to see how the Bears are gonna draft especially that 9th pick. Cause if they draft Dallas Turner with Sweat in the other side and they get another WR in the 2nd round boiii I’m calling 11-6 cause their schedule is really favorable
Acho already have him in the HoF though
shady spitting. he be on some other stuff usually but today. my guy making all the sense!
A division 2 QB in Tyson Bagent won 2 games with the Bears. Caleb Williams will look amazing if he plays average for bears QB play. Saying the bears are far behind the packers and lions is crazy considering we got so much better and they didn’t and we owned the lions 2x last year. Don’t sleep…
The Bears are going to be good this year!
Manziel was “generational” and could do all of these crazy things in college… let the kid play before crowning them
You can tell Caleb has alot of queen in him. He don't got that ice cold killer instincts Brady had
He may be a rookie, but he will have veterans out there helping him! Just like college, he was throwing to college players against college players with college help. Everything he will be doing will be to and with professional players!
Trevor Lawrence didn't come into a team with these weapons. If Caleb is that dude he should win more games for the bears den they did last year
I swear acho acts like this kids god
Bro aint getting anywhere near bradys level 😂
CJ did all that with missing two games… can’t compare
What did Williams do against top defenses?
Maybe I'm missing something. I don't see Caleb williams as a better qb prospect coming out of college than Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow. I think he is going to be a really good player, especially with the weapons they already have in Chicago.
This is the same player, Caleb, that rocks fingernail paint
I hate how Joy makes it seem like thr bears were awful last year. There were literally two games away from playoffs. Bears actually didnt get eliminated from playoff contention until the 2nd to last game
Shady is on point
Acho be meat riding on National TV
They must be getting a nice check to let someone who has never played the game, tell them "how it is playing football". 🙄
The Bears should win easily more games this year look at the schedule .
Biggest question is who r the Bears playing this year?
Shady moving the goalpost for him every chance he get
Shady a warrior..
This is ridiculous. If Caleb throws for 4000 yards with the bears roster it would be ridiculous not to make the playoffs. On paper the bears literally have a top 5 team. There are very few teams that have a roster like the bears. The chiefs won the superbowl and they don’t have a better roster than the bears, they just have a solid roster with the best QB in the league
Why do Acho always try to be the smartest person in the room? Somebody needs to Humble that boy
Calm down Caleb first gotta chase mahomes
Won 7 games last yr while tanking, yes making the playoffs this year is an expectation