Very long overdue, but I'm finally done with this one. lol Translation Note: Definition: 煩悩(bonnou) is a Buddhism term that refers to a factor that clouds one's mental state caused by worldly desires and/or negative emotion, resulting personal sufferings and initiating other unwholesome act. In this video, I have decided to use the word "kleshas" because it focuses more on the suffering rather than their wants. But "worldly desires" has been used as well.
Appreciate the work, great clip and overall great translation. But just on the bonnou/kleshas thing - is there really any meaning to translating a word to some other word that also needs to be translated, TL-noted, and/or wiki'd to be understood by the target audience? Not trying to be an ass, it just kind of defeats the purpose imo.
@Obake Hi there! That's a fair point! I can talk extensively regarding this because of how much time I've spent on it. I have decided to provide this information because this isn't a word that is used on a daily basis (or at last from what I've experienced). It's a terminology that has varying cultural and spiritual reference, and a short summery has been provided so that the audience can at least be on the same page. I do have to admit I may have spent too much time on it (more time than I personally wanted to). Personally, T/N should be used minimally unless it is absolutely necessary, and for this instance, I believed it would be informative to include it. I do not think this is the best or the correct method, but based on what I've read I've decided it'd be appropriate, and the word choice is just personal choice after seeing the list of relevant words. If it helped you, that's great! If not, that's fine! I hope this answers your question! Take care and be safe! :)
@@obake6290 this kinda question sounds like whatever out of touch old white guy in publishing companies and studios that thinks names should be translated so we get stuff like in one of the neptunia spinoffs they translated “kuronekohime” as “black cat princess” instead of just leaving the name alone. Also great video Mofuzilla
@@dannyc1534 Hi Danny, thanks for leaving your comment. I have chosen this word based on my research on Buddhism and I wanted a word that closely resembles a word that has significant meaning to Buddhism. Some of the Japanese articles have used the word "klesha" as what they would translate for the word "bonnou". But saying "problem" or "trouble" does deliver the same message and this is definitely acceptable. I personally wanted something more than these words had to offer and that was the spiritual significance. During the time I was working on this clip, I was pretty much trying to get the closest word possible and this is the result. Also, even though I have described it as "cloud one's mental state", this has nothing to do with mental illness. I hope this clarifies any concern you had. Take care and enjoy the rest of your day.
I think Marine has said previously when she'd get too horny she would think about bugs or watch bug videos to calm herself down by being disgusted instead, so I guess that is no longer working lol.
I love how simple and straight to the point Haachama is here. XD Unlike Matsuri, her attack and defense rises when met with lewdness, so her potential is almost limitless.
When the Haachama is present, all others have no choice but to be the straight man, no matter how chaotic they may be themselves. Just look at her cooking stream with Kiara.
@@azmakes321 Poor grammar kinda breaks immersion and makes reading less enjoyable, at least for me. If it's being used for some effect in dialogue, that's one thing; but if it's clearly a case where the author doesn't know to spell, or doesn't know English very well, then that definitely detracts from the work, even if I'm able to understand it perfectly.
Haachama and Choco were ready to help Marine handle her horniness lol. Also hearing Miko laugh when Marine was mentioned cuz she knew where it was going was great.
@@jimmy_ink And from this knowledge we can conclude that Miko must be a foot connoisseur as well, that's why she want Akai "Stinky Feet" Haato all to herself
I'm pretty sure Miko is more into Akai Haato than Haachama. Whenever she talks about her being her type it's always the characteristics of Haato, not the degeneracy of Haachama.
I bet that is indeed a long and hard task but through thick and thin they were help each other and keep abreast of the issue The joke is overwrought at this point
"Why not just let yourself explode when you hit your limit?" "Why not be self-sufficient, and draw lewd pictures of yourself?" This girl time and time again, exhibits her genius in plenty various ways.
@@BaritoneMonkey Coco has begun leading Sora down the dark path, we all saw the meme review. Ina will kabedon any unwitting takodachis given half a chance. Maybe Uto is pure, but A-chan is the only one who is 100% seiso, lol.
Haachama: Why not just let yourself explode when you reach your limit A-chan: Hold on a sec. www Even A-chan could not keep up with Haachama's chaotic energy.
Marine draws the lewd things she imagines, gives the drawing to Chocoso she wont need to buy ebooks, and Haachama shows them on stream, they can make it work
Is everyone gonna ignore the fact that Haachama just tried to make another Haacahama out of Marine? She said just explode after you hit your limit XD also Haachama is just playing a big game of chicken with everyone in life at this point
oh I totally missed out on this stream and this is the first clip I see from it, I hope there's more around. I love these streams where a lot of the girls are togheter.
I think Subaru called Haachama the mad dog of hololive, and she shows it here. Her example wasn't even about lewd content like Choco or Marine, but rather using that content to create chaos.
Choco-sen's voice is like smooth silk. Also, it's not surprising that Matsuri rejected Marine. Matsuri is actually quite seiso in RL and just plays up the degenelate character angle for streaming purposes while Marine is the real deal.
I am not quite sure about that whole seiso irl thing. I’ve heard a lot of stories about Matsuri’s degenerate antics and even if like 80% is made up for show that remaining 20% is still pretty yabai.
@@MrMagnetron2 20% seems like a high number, but sure, let's assume some of what she says is legit. Most of what she says isn't whereas Marine is the other way around. I suspect a lot of what Marine says is underplayed.
Ahh Choco's spending habits. I remember when she wouldn't stop buying hundreds worth of Apex packs because she wanted a Lifeline skin really bad. I also remember she almost bought the Season 6 battlepass 3 days before season 7 started, but thankfully Credit Card-kun had enough by then. Never change sensei 😌
How A-chan can fix there "problems": Haachama, don't post lewds for a while or win the gamble. Choco, cancel her credit card. Marine, well I can't help you with that.
I like how Marine knew she needed divine intervention the moment even resident oji-san Natsuiro Matsuri rejected her LMFAO Also A-chan really just hit them with "sounds like a you problem" 🤣
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Very long overdue, but I'm finally done with this one. lol
Translation Note: Definition: 煩悩(bonnou) is a Buddhism term that refers to a factor that clouds one's mental state caused by worldly desires and/or negative emotion,
resulting personal sufferings and initiating other unwholesome act.
In this video, I have decided to use the word "kleshas" because it focuses more on the suffering rather than their wants. But
"worldly desires" has been used as well.
Appreciate the work, great clip and overall great translation.
But just on the bonnou/kleshas thing - is there really any meaning to translating a word to some other word that also needs to be translated, TL-noted, and/or wiki'd to be understood by the target audience? Not trying to be an ass, it just kind of defeats the purpose imo.
@Obake Hi there! That's a fair point! I can talk extensively regarding this because of how much time I've spent on it. I have decided to provide this information because this isn't a word that is used on a daily basis (or at last from what I've experienced). It's a terminology that has varying cultural and spiritual reference, and a short summery has been provided so that the audience can at least be on the same page. I do have to admit I may have spent too much time on it (more time than I personally wanted to). Personally, T/N should be used minimally unless it is absolutely necessary, and for this instance, I believed it would be informative to include it. I do not think this is the best or the correct method, but based on what I've read I've decided it'd be appropriate, and the word choice is just personal choice after seeing the list of relevant words. If it helped you, that's great! If not, that's fine! I hope this answers your question! Take care and be safe! :)
@@mofuzillatranslation Fantastically thoughtful and professional response! You've earned yourself a sub.
@@obake6290 this kinda question sounds like whatever out of touch old white guy in publishing companies and studios that thinks names should be translated so we get stuff like in one of the neptunia spinoffs they translated “kuronekohime” as “black cat princess” instead of just leaving the name alone. Also great video Mofuzilla
@@dannyc1534 Hi Danny, thanks for leaving your comment. I have chosen this word based on my research on Buddhism and I wanted a word that closely resembles a word that has significant meaning to Buddhism. Some of the Japanese articles have used the word "klesha" as what they would translate for the word "bonnou". But saying "problem" or "trouble" does deliver the same message and this is definitely acceptable. I personally wanted something more than these words had to offer and that was the spiritual significance. During the time I was working on this clip, I was pretty much trying to get the closest word possible and this is the result.
Also, even though I have described it as "cloud one's mental state", this has nothing to do with mental illness.
I hope this clarifies any concern you had.
Take care and enjoy the rest of your day.
Choco offered herself as a stress reliever but Marine did not seen to have heard it .
Top 10 saddest anime moments
The power of protagonist
If they both ( marine and choco) did it, they will not stream for few days ( yes they most likely not stop "doing it" for few days) , hahahaha
I want that asmr, like right now. It would overtake choco x matsuri
@@rianwidz1435 I mean, if u did that u feel refreshed so most likely if they did that they will be more active after that right? xd
Lewd problems in short:
Haachama - Almost getting banned.
Choco - Spending to much.
Marine - Existing.
no reply?
@@pakbetgaming969 it means people agree with this comment
Not much to say about it, this person is right.
Haachama: Invoking he who must not be named
@@pakbetgaming969 no no no, he's got a point
The horni power is strong in these 3
Dude how deep are you into the rabbit hole you are literally in every clip's comment section.
*Horni together strong*
Even A chan has given up in purifying them
@傷齒龍147 Troodon147 Well Haachama an eldritch horro unleashed. She is chaos incarnate so theres no help with that
They are the chosen ones.
Of course matsuri knows how much is those adult books
She has the LO editorial on a payroll lmao
Lol
“Even bugs are starting to look lewd.”
Me: and then haachama eats the bugs to help marine
I think Marine has said previously when she'd get too horny she would think about bugs or watch bug videos to calm herself down by being disgusted instead, so I guess that is no longer working lol.
@@xarezarcs4125 She pavloved herself lmao.
Instead of watching bugs , Haachama bug cooking will be the next best thing.
Ever seen the insect tag....
Spider and scorpion down 100+ bugs to go.
please solve it between your three privately!
Marine : "don't mind if i do ~"
then bring them to Iofi's Playing room...
I guess she's their type as well, should bring Kiara and Ame as well.
Mel: Let me in!!!!!
@@themarky2714 Bouncer: "Anime girls only, come back when you're a waifu."
Aqua: "Noooooo!"
Choco: "I offer myself as tribute."
I'm sad she wasn't noticed
@@cry9438 I think Subaru noticed and thats why she got really loud all of a sudden. To scoot away from the "dangerous" subject.
@@UrzaWeatherlight No I think she can't hear Choco from the loudness of her voice
I called it, using bugs as a horni repellent led to Marine associating bugs with horni... pavlov you've done it again.
"Curse you Pavlov-" *dies*
DAMN YOU PAVLOOOOOV!
Man, she must be the only one who liked Haachama eating that spider
I love how simple and straight to the point Haachama is here. XD
Unlike Matsuri, her attack and defense rises when met with lewdness, so her potential is almost limitless.
Matsuri? Defense? Pfft that's a good one lol
@@Quothmorgan Yeah like I said, unlike Matsuri, Hachaamas stats go up.
Natsuiro 'Glass Cannon' Matsuri, she can dish it out but she sure can't take it
She's the strongest idol after all. Sasuga Haachama
Everyone: *desperately trying to rein Haachama in and keep her on topic, and failing miserably*
You cannot control the chaos itself!
When the Haachama is present, all others have no choice but to be the straight man, no matter how chaotic they may be themselves. Just look at her cooking stream with Kiara.
this reminds me of the fairy bit where Haachama just ignored the script entirely and sent them into a tailspin.
@@louiscypher4186 link please
@@louiscypher4186 i remember that one hahaha. Straight up just ignores the script.
"Even bugs are starting to look lewd."
I swear people like Marine are why we have so many crazy-ass doujinshi tags
May I remind you that there litterally is a "POOR GRAMMAR" tag?
@@yoster39 I can still understand it perfectly fine. Tbh grammar doesn't matter in informal texts like these as long as you understand the context
Marine mentioned in a stream a while back that she tried to look at grotesque bug images to stop her horniness but it was still difficult to quell it
and up until now there isnt wholesome tag in nhent*i
@@azmakes321 Poor grammar kinda breaks immersion and makes reading less enjoyable, at least for me. If it's being used for some effect in dialogue, that's one thing; but if it's clearly a case where the author doesn't know to spell, or doesn't know English very well, then that definitely detracts from the work, even if I'm able to understand it perfectly.
I don't think putting those 3 together to help each other is going to give you the results you're looking for, A-chan......
Perhaps she is secretly a woman of culture and actually wants to get those results
My imagined result: marine drawing haachama eating lewd bug girls with choco bankrolling the project
Orgylive
Marine: then you'll take care of my hornie, haachama?
*Miko, who would not dare to see what remains of Haato gets desecrated:* NOOOO NOT HER
Hachaman get desecrated? Im scared for marines surivival
Isnt it because Hachama is barely legal, and that would put Marine in a literal jail cell? Hahahahah
@@justlooking070 I'm sorry? Marine is 17, so it's still fine.
@@namikazenara9379 2nd season! Haachama needs to be 2nd season too, for it to be legal! Lol
@@justlooking070 sssttttt! Don't mind the detail~
Haachama and Choco were ready to help Marine handle her horniness lol. Also hearing Miko laugh when Marine was mentioned cuz she knew where it was going was great.
I love how in big collabs haachama is so chaotic that no one knows how to handle her
Haachama: Script? Pfft.
God, I love how Subaru is playing the straight man in almost every situation.
Marine: Even bugs are starting to look lewd!
Haachama: Even bugs are starting to look like food
I swear Haachama's character development
I was there when she was one of the most seiso idol
Haachama , fresh out of highschool. Good on Miko protecting Haachama from the cougar.
But it's because Miko wants haachama for herself wwwww elite move indeed
@@jimmy_ink And from this knowledge we can conclude that Miko must be a foot connoisseur as well, that's why she want Akai "Stinky Feet" Haato all to herself
I'm pretty sure Miko is more into Akai Haato than Haachama. Whenever she talks about her being her type it's always the characteristics of Haato, not the degeneracy of Haachama.
@@Zeik56 but Haato is dead. Now it's *just Haachama*
@@Mechagodzilla128 not anymore
Damn... mad props to Haachama's no fucks given attitude.
I can only imagine what happened if all 3 of them did a 3D collar together.
Yabe
add Mel to the collab....
Yes, add Mel, and we have 4 Heavenly Kings/Queens or The 4 Horsemen/Women of Yabe
They need to make this happen lmao
@@faisalfirmansyah6116 Maybe add Kiara, Ame, and Ollie whenever they get 3d models
Helping each other get over their lewdness.
Brain: hehe
Me: no stop
I bet that is indeed a long and hard task but through thick and thin they were help each other and keep abreast of the issue
The joke is overwrought at this point
To explain this in DnD terms:
Choco: Lawful Horni
Marine: Neutral (pure) Horni
Haachama: Chaotic Horni
Haachama is just the bringer of chaos and I love it
"Why not just let yourself explode when you hit your limit?"
"Why not be self-sufficient, and draw lewd pictures of yourself?"
This girl time and time again, exhibits her genius in plenty various ways.
Of course Matsuri would be scared lol. She's not in her age range. She can see through the 2nd season
I like how Miko immediately stood up for not letting Haachama touched by Marine, lol
She really likes Haachama that much
A-chan is the only one I trust completely, she's the only sweet thing left in this world.
Bro, them's fighting words. What about Sora, Ina, or Amatsuka Uto??
@@BaritoneMonkey Coco has begun leading Sora down the dark path, we all saw the meme review. Ina will kabedon any unwitting takodachis given half a chance. Maybe Uto is pure, but A-chan is the only one who is 100% seiso, lol.
@@2Sor2Fig shieeett Ina can kabedon me any time even wittingly
@@BaritoneMonkey you're welcome
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@@lem1681 oh that's amazing. Plus she commented on that too 😍
“Even bugs are starting to look lewd” she’s gone past the point of no return
I knew that feeling 😂😔✊
3:18 Miko protecting her idol Haachama
Subaru trying so hard to process all of this
YOOOO
I've watched so many clips I realized what Haachama said at 3:09 to Marine was the same thing Marine said to Haachama on her birthday call.
3:04 oh no!! She has started to becoming Rule34 artist
It only matter of time until she started seeing everything lewdly
Haachama: Why not just let yourself explode when you reach your limit
A-chan: Hold on a sec. www
Even A-chan could not keep up with Haachama's chaotic energy.
>even bugs are starting to look lewd
I knew this would happen lmao. Pavlovian conditioning’s a hell of a drug.
I cant stop laughing the fact that hanchaama kept encouraging others to embrace the insanity.
1:53 professional hentai giving her opinion!
Marine draws the lewd things she imagines, gives the drawing to Chocoso she wont need to buy ebooks, and Haachama shows them on stream, they can make it work
It took me over a year to see this comment, but this is actually genius!!
Haatomatomaa: I like to tease danger.
Choco: I'm edging brokeness.
Marine: I'm dying.
0:14 possibly cutest “Okay” ever
Is everyone gonna ignore the fact that Haachama just tried to make another Haacahama out of Marine? She said just explode after you hit your limit XD also Haachama is just playing a big game of chicken with everyone in life at this point
I mean Marine almost definitely draws lewd drawings of her character already.
Hachama was technically right because Australia time is advance than Japan so it’s already new year here
"Please resolve this together...privately please"
If you listen closely you can hear the doujin artists frantically drawing
Choco : I ordered a lot of adult books my credit card often stopped working
Matsuri : But just one costs a few hundred yen
me: Matsuri-chan?!
Rather than that, it's "Chocosen, do you have a damn trailer park specifically to keep those or what?"
Choco sensei is a huge doujin otaku, not even Miko and her love of eroge comes close.
oh I totally missed out on this stream and this is the first clip I see from it, I hope there's more around. I love these streams where a lot of the girls are togheter.
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Marine: “I do not wish to be horny anymore, I just want to be happy”
I think Subaru called Haachama the mad dog of hololive, and she shows it here. Her example wasn't even about lewd content like Choco or Marine, but rather using that content to create chaos.
I like how Haachama/Haato is still using barely-acceptable thumbnails. She just shifted from risqué to horror.
*Haachama looks at Script-kun* Omai wa Mou Shinderu *Eats*
3:11 basically telling senchou to go to Haachama route
Choco-sen's voice is like smooth silk.
Also, it's not surprising that Matsuri rejected Marine. Matsuri is actually quite seiso in RL and just plays up the degenelate character angle for streaming purposes while Marine is the real deal.
I am not quite sure about that whole seiso irl thing. I’ve heard a lot of stories about Matsuri’s degenerate antics and even if like 80% is made up for show that remaining 20% is still pretty yabai.
@@MrMagnetron2 20% seems like a high number, but sure, let's assume some of what she says is legit. Most of what she says isn't whereas Marine is the other way around. I suspect a lot of what Marine says is underplayed.
You know its bad when Matsuri says “youre scaring me”
She’s a glass cannon for a reason. She likes to touch but can’t stand being touched
It's great to see a translator doing rare parts of Hololive streams. Subbed!
Ahh Choco's spending habits.
I remember when she wouldn't stop buying hundreds worth of Apex packs because she wanted a Lifeline skin really bad.
I also remember she almost bought the Season 6 battlepass 3 days before season 7 started, but thankfully Credit Card-kun had enough by then.
Never change sensei 😌
Marine: "Even bugs are starting to look lewd"
The people who are into the insect and insect girl tag: *"AH YES, A WOMAN OF CULTURE"*
Haachama doesnt need script, shes too damn stronk
You know you've truly fallen down the rabbit hole when you can name everyone in the background...
3:46 A-Chan casually says "chin... chin..." during this kind of talks
Marine's explanation was basically "I do not wish to be horny, I just want to be happy"
Meanwhile yagoo in the corner be like: 🥺🥺 where did i go wrong
Great clip !!
I love matsuri comment of choco sensei story "but those are cheap" of course matsuri knows
0:14
HAACHAMA'S "OKAY!" loop
Putting those 3 together does not solve the problem, it creates a Slaanesh cult.
Lmaooo for real!
How A-chan can fix there "problems":
Haachama, don't post lewds for a while or win the gamble.
Choco, cancel her credit card.
Marine, well I can't help you with that.
No one can...maybe kiara
Of course Matsuri knows how much those books cost xD
Imagine haachama explaining while miko burning this scene in her memory while the half of her brain fantasizing
It's like they want to drag Kiara out of the bottom left corner by her hair so that they can have the spot for themselves
Listening to a group of very loudly laughing Japanese vtubers is more enjoyable for me than watching clips of the English ones
Haachama the mvp
Haachama Chaotic as Ever! xD
Choco being lewd is normal, Marine being Lewd is "Normal" but Haachaama.... I don't know anymore
Haachama has such chaotic energy I love it
they known as the big three
"even bugs are starting to look lewd"
Marine is down tremendously bad
Great translation and editing! Thank you for sharing this moment
I'm kinda surprised it was Miko being protective of Haachama and not Watame
Watame is a little shy, there were too many people there.
@@juampisito yeah you're probably right, she's definitely gone yandere sheep mode before tho so it wouldn't surprise me if she ever did speak up lol
Miko favorite one is haachama. Makes sense that she would protect her.
You can have all 7 gens talking at once and the duck's voice still rings out loud and clear
I love how Subaru is always there to commentate and react
ah glass cannon matsuri
That wow by polka always get me
Haachama truly is world's strongest idol.
3:13 Haachama got the right idea
Haachama is so chaotic and i love it
Miko ready to let out her elite punch to defend haaachama's purity
Haachama, Choco and Marine, I swear don't let them stay in the same room ever again
Before the stream:
A Chan:Watame why don't u share urs too
Watame: we don't go that far
Polka said it best with one word: "Wow."
THEY'RE AT THE PEAK PERFORMANCE
Never thought that Choco-sensei got the same problem as me😂😂 too much reading lewds
I like how Marine knew she needed divine intervention the moment even resident oji-san Natsuiro Matsuri rejected her LMFAO
Also A-chan really just hit them with "sounds like a you problem" 🤣
Man, Haachama is truly the most unhinged in Hololive, the antithetis of Sora 🤣
amazing trio of yabe.
..amazing
And Haachama is going to do ANOTHER steam with that theme soon...
Its so wholesome seeing almost every hololive jp member get together
1:02 that quote saved my life and instilled in myself a never yielding spirit
0:14 that "Okay~" makes my heart warm