I believe that everyone who makes a tier list like this is basically just going with their gut. After all, we're trying to judge art here, so it is inherently subjective.
I’m playing Harvestella right now and I’m absolutely IN LOVE! I love the balance of the life sim genre and action RPG! It literally never gets boring, the characters are all really interesting, and the aesthetic and the world are BEAUTIFUL!
Would it be accurate to call Harvestella a 3D Stardew Valley? I got it recommended from Reddit users as a cozy game. Which is exactly what I'm after these days.
@@JamieR In the sense that there's farming and crafting, yeah. But it's much, much more of an RPG/Action-RPG than Stardew is. I'd say the combat and other RPG elements are like 75-80% of the game, and the farming, etc. is around 20.
'Silent protagonists have gotta go'....SUBSCRIBED lol. I've always thought the same thing. I need a well-written main character, not a blank slate to really enjoy a story.
29:11 I got Saturday Morning RPG for my 35th birthday this year, and I find it very nostalgic because I grew up with a surprising amount of 80s cartoons in the 90s either due to reruns or renting VHS tapes of ones no longer on the air. There are a dozen or so 80s cartoons that I still find very enjoyable so it feels like this game was made for me. I agree with it being a B tier game, personally I would put it in the A tier if it weren't for the annoying fact that you can only get into so many battles every chapter. One of the reasons RPGs are my favorite video game genre is because of how you can make the battles easier by level grinding. I would even look at guides with recommended levels then make sure that my party was beyond those levels before going through that part so not being able to level grind feels wrong for an RPG. The second or third boss in the first chapter took me 3 tries to beat, and the bosses in chapter 2 kicked my butt on the first try because one of them keeps healing both. Fortunately watching a playthrough of that fight taught me a way to possibly beat them.
You're the third person I've seen recently to highly recommend Harvestella, and I've always been curious about it, so I think I will have to pick it up now 👍
Agreed with the love for Harvestella. That game is so criminally underrated. It's honestly sad how many people immediately dismissed it because it didn't match their idea of a farm sim or doesn't look like a high budget JRPG. The name honestly didn't help it all with marketing. It makes sense in a story context after playing it, but for attracting new players, it gives false expectations unfortunately.
I love that even the lower ranked games on your list still get a fair explanation and lots of caveats (although I suspect it’s a bit out of fear of mega fans). Thinking I may have to move Harvestella up on my backlog since you speak so highly of it. From what I’ve heard the game is similar to Rune Factory, one of my all time favorites. Have you tried the series out/considered playing any of the games?
Yeah, and honestly it's not so much fear of mega fans in particular, but just that I really don't like saying bad things about stuff people like. So if I have criticisms, I always try to be as kind and in depth as I can be. And YES, please play Harvestella!!!
NGL, When it comes to tier list videos like this, I tend to skip to the end of the video just cause I want to see the list at full. I gotta say you do have good tastes in JRPGs, even if there are certain spots that I disagree with. (If it were my list, I would put Three Houses higher than Engage, Bravely Default 2 a tier lower and all three Xenoblades would be S tier) But yeah.
Thank you! In all honesty, if I were to do the list again, I might even feel slightly different. Since it was all spur of the moment, with more reflection I might make a few different decisions -- but overall I think I'm comfortable with where I slotted things.
Xenoblade 1 is an S or you are simply wrong! ;-) Seriously though, I am trying to follow the logic in not like the MMO style combat for that game that is also used in its sequels which you liked more? Also art direction, music, pacing, story, character development, scale, and that originally came out in Japan like a dozen years ago, its a masterclass in JRPG's.
He put a game like the longest five minutes as an S at the beginning, which I consider an enjoyable but prettry crappy game xd. And you know what? It's Ok. It's his list not yours, not mine, and each person enjoys more somethings than others. He is not trying to class them objectively (which in fact it's imposible 100%) but by gut feeling. I agree with you, like 99% of people who played xenoblade 1, but that doesn't make any of us wrong
Yeah, if I had to rank the Xenoblade series as a whole, it would probably be an S rank series for me. Grading individual parts is where it's tricky, and where it's sort of a mini ranking within itself. Going by the amount of enjoyment I had playing each of the games, I feel solid in what I ranked, but your mileage may vary.
@@JustTheGems yeah, I have more positive opinions on Xenoblade 1 as I played it on WIi in 2012 and at the time not only was it the best JRPG I had ever played, it also had the best voice acting, storytelling, pacing, and music ever in a videogame and few games have seriously challenged it since.
@@alejandrosunshadow6041 yeah, I mean I see a lot more flaws in XB2 in its ending, some of its field skills, random Blades, creature spefiic abilities which don't matter when every story boss is a humanoid or Blade boss, the Tiger Tiger Poppi sidequest, and its inferior navigation. I liked XB2, but by any standard, it was nowhere near as good as 1 or 3.
@@hepwo91222 it's an S tier story for me for sure. Now that I'm more used to the gameplay, my ranking MIGHT change if I were to play it again, but the backlog is too darn big to double dip right now...😅
@@JustTheGems By the way, could you go into a full on review of Harvestella, and deeply explore what you like so much about it. I didn't buy it because from what I heard it was more akin to a AA game asking for a AAA price. I'd like to buy it, but I'd really like to know what you find so compelling about it before I do.
@@shadowwarrior3444 I did actually do a review on it (check under the Reviews playlist, I'm pretty sure I sorted it there) - if there's anything else you want to know about it that I didn't cover, ask away!
Definitely, or at the very least I'll include it when I start my big Star Ocean series playthrough, where I'm planning to do at least a mini-review of each entry.
Great list, I'll have to check out some of the ones you really liked. I haven't played a lot of these, but personally I thought Octopath II was absolutely amazing, definitely S tier material. For me, it competes with Sea of Stars for the top spot for RPG of 2023. I know, I know, people are gonna hate on me for even questioning Sea of Stars' supremacy. I loved Sea of Stars too, but if I am being honest, the character development in OTII was definitely superior, and OTII's battle system had more depth, so overall both games are in a pretty close tie for me. Either way, I highly recommend playing both games. Anyway, thanks for the video, and I hope you will give OTII another try when you have time, it's worth it!
Yeah, I think if/when I complete OTII, it will almost certainly move up to at least A rank for me. I think it's objectively better than the first in just about every way.
Good ranking video...don't completely agree with all but happy to see Harvestella up there - loved it though I never finished it. Didn't see any Atelier games on there but guess that is kind of an acquired taste ( I'm fond of Ryza and the Sophie remake..).
It's incredible how much I felt and enjoyed Harvestella. I don't remember experiencing that much emotion with Xenoblade franchise for some reason, and yeah, I was laughed at when. I said that Harvestella is one of my favorites of all time, and I was like: "Yeah, I love the game with kinda playstation 3 graphics". It's not a game for everyone, that much I admit, but for me was the best month I had in gaming in a couple of years. I doubt there will be more of Harvestella, its sales weren't stellar, but oh boy, how I'd love to see more.
Yeah, the bummer of it all is that SE didn't do a great job marketing Harvestella, and it's fallen on the fans to shout about it. And there's only so much we can do!
Harvestella barely gets any love and it’s just incredible so much emotion thinking back to that game I played the demo and didn’t like it but got the game on release anyways and it’s one of my fave rpgs ever. Also where would you rank smt5 I found it amazing?
Great list, I really loved you put To the Moon on this list, one of the few games to make me cry. Probably the best $10 I ever spent on a game although I played it on the PC and is a one of a kind experience that transcends gaming. Also, I got a good chuckle out of your Shin Megami Tensei V Collectors edition in the background without having played it! That game, Sea of Stars, and Octopath Traveler 2 would be my favorites I played on the Switch. Have to give Harvestella a try based off of your praise, definitely seems like something I might enjoy.
Partially agree with you on the silent protagonist front but I will say, with Chrono Trigger and with Persona 3 FES the silent protagonist actually enhanced the experience for me. Apart from CT & P3FES though I agree the silent protagonist isn’t needed anymore
I'm kinda of two minds about it. On the one hand, I don't personally feel like Chrono Trigger benefited from having a silent protag. But on the other hand, I can't really imagine it HAVING a speaking Crono. But overall, I agree, we don't need silent protagonists anymore.
@@JustTheGems Very true mate 🍻 Complete sidebar but keep up the great content, really enjoy your work, If you have an hour to kill and wanna hear a fellow JRPG lover ramble on about World of Final Fantasy Maxima… I gotchu ruclips.net/video/9FcAhNpNUAU/видео.htmlsi=cp5zMwBhZeqnQoxm 😊🍻 Also I picked up Crystar based on your recommendation 🍻
As a Tales series lifer who would put Vespy in my top three gaming memories of all time I am forced to reckon that it’s only great and not legendary. And that’s okay I think.
I love the Tales series, but I haven't played one that I put on the "Legendary" level yet, I suppose. They're mostly all great to me, which is still far better than most games can claim.
Great video :) I remember doing a first look video on here of Mato Anomalies. I think I did it after it was released, so wasn't me you were on about :)
Yeah, it was definitely pre-launch, and then I remember it kinda fell off my radar again for a while. I really hope it's just an issue with the Switch, because if it weren't for the jankiness, I imagine I would have been able to keep going (maybe not all the way, but certainly for much longer)
I share exactly the same feeling about Octopath Traveler 2 vs. 1 and it feels good to hear other people feeling the same way :-) Thanks for this video!
I totally understand why you ranked Octopath 2 as you did, and I can't really fault you for it, but man is it unfortunate. Octopath 2 is my favorite game in years, and the improvements it made are incredible. I hope you do get to go back to it, because it's a hell of a time.
It's really refreshing to hear honest opinions on a range of games ... I must admit I've often not felt as enthused about some of the big titles as so many others do. I've been away from the Switch for a while but am planning to play some rpg's in the coming months. My list is getting quite big!! Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy 7,9 and 10, Grandia and Suikoden (not sure when it releases) are all calling me!! I had the Longest 5 minuets on Vita but never got to it, so I'll try and pick it up. Omori looks super good, so made some mental notes to try it at some point .. I'm going to try and just buy a few games at a time and there's a lot of hours in the above already Enjoyed your list very much and hopped on board your train. Happy gaming. 🐕
So wait… you’ve never played the ps1 games you mentioned??? I’m so jealous of you. I think that final fantasy 9 and 10 are nearly perfect and with the ability to fast forward battles in 9 that clears the only minor complaint I could think of. I think anyone can enjoy those games. Final fantasy 7 is my favorite game of all time so I don’t think my bias can properly allow me to objectively recommend it but subjectively I think it still holds up. Though I can see why the graphics might put someone off. Chrono Cross, Grandia , and Suikoden 2 are also among my favorites. Suikoden 2 is another very easy recommendation. It’s probably the best game on that list honestly lol. If I’m being objective. As far as Grandia 1-2. There are a few games that have made me think “I think this is my favorite video game ever” and FF7, FF9, Grandia 1-2, Persona 4, have all made me say that at one point in my life. So I really need to replay the Grandia games soon but I’m sure they still hold up. But you really need time add star ocean second story R to your list. I will also recommend FF8. While the story didn’t capture me as much as 10 or 7, and mechanically it’s not as perfect 9, I think it is still one of the best RPGs ever made. It’s just living right underneath the shadow of some truly transcendent games. Don’t get me wrong it comes very close imo. I think it probably has my favorite soundtrack in a video game. Don’t let the lack of hype deter you from it. Its remaster is also probably one of the better handled from square. And I’ll recommend FF12 as well. Again, probably a step down for many but it’s still better than a lot of other stuff out there. Like it wouldn’t even surprise me if you enjoy FF12 the most or FF8 the most. Like my best friend favorite is 12 and my brothers is 8. Now if we could just get square to port Vagrant Story and xenogears to the switch…Your education would be complete.
You were mentioned on SuperDerek and Bakusans podcast Hitpoint's latest episode fyi. I'm always happy to watch all your videos but these kinds on particular. For starters your opinions differ from mine which is always refreshing to hear a different perspective than my own. And secondly because you do a great job of explaining your point of view as to what you think of a game I agree with Octopath 1 being super grindy and me not finishing the last secret boss because I didn't get like grinding for hours. I also agree with secret of mana. I was born in 82 and played it when it first came out but it's really hard to play now. For the collection to play with my daughter and man is it rough. The hit detection and the grinding for magic levels are just not fun. However, trials of mana is amazing and worth getting the collection for. I also got Trinity Trigger to play with her, and backed Shrines Legacy to play with her too. Ara Fell is AMAZING! and rise of the third power is then better. Both are S tier in my book. I own the digital copies and bought the physical edition too.
Oh man, it was pretty mind-melting when I came up on that podcast. The very idea that SuperDerek even knew who I was was just 🤯. I'm gonna prioritize Rise of the Third Power in the new year, I think. A lot of people have said it's even better than Ara Fell, which is already so fantastic.
@@JustTheGems man I had a lot of typos in that comment. Glad you could understand it. And yeah I was happy to hear you come up on the podcast as you're definitely one of my favorite RUclipsrs. Rise of the third power is one of my favorite games I've played in the recent past. And Ara Fell is up there too. Loved both
Ok… I hate that I have to give a criticism because I LOVE your channel and appreciate your commentary in all of your videos…. But…. What is up with the audio in your videos? When I watch using earbuds, the sound is often only going to my left ear. It’s only for your videos.
I did notice that the intro voice audio was only coming through the left channel, but it's corrected at around a minute in. Is that what you were noticing?
Yes it did correct itself. There was one recent video where it was consistent throughout the video. Sorry when I was commenting it was before the correction. Keep on keeping on… hope you didn’t take my comment as negative.
I also personally enjoyed Engage more than Three Houses. In fact, I struggle to really remember anything about Three Houses (story, characters, or otherwise) at all. Also, Undertale? That wasn't developed in Japan. What's it doing on here?
I argue "JRPG" is a style, not an indicator of where a game was made. Like, "French toast" isn't toast made in France, right? I view it similarly. They're games that share a certain design sensibility, and that particular sensibility was originally crafted and perfected in Japan.
it's unfortunate but i agree that The World Ends with You was not great on the switch and i say that as the DS version is one of my all time favorite games, glad Xenoblade 3 and Harvestella are so high up and getting love!
If they could find a way to remake TWEWY in a way that creates a similarly entertaining gameplay loop, I'd be all over that. But yeah, the way they chose to do it just didn't click for me.
I am a huge Xenoblade fan. Xenoblade 1 on the Wii is the game that really ignited my love for JRPGs anew and Xenoblade 3 was such a perfect send off to this arc BUT i can see why this series isn't for everyone especially the gameplay. And even though Xenoblade 3 is objectively better than 1 with a much more fleshed out cast and better written story Xenoblade 1 will forever stay my favorite i think because it had such a huge impact on my hobby. And Harvestella is such a hidden gem. After playing A LOT of farming games it is a much better Jrpg than farming game and i am a little pissed that they pushed the farming aspect so hard in all the merketing.
Agreed on XB, I understand totally why the first is so many people's favorite (this applies to some of my friends who like it, too). The gameplay has never been my FAVORITE overall, but by the third game I felt more or less comfortable with it. And you're 100% right on the marketing, I think they were expecting there to be a bigger farming sim community out there champing at the bit for a game like Harvestella, when in reality they would have been so much better served just selling it to RPG fans in general
@@JustTheGems Lately many developers just include farming because the genre had a boom since Stardew Valley. But the farming in Harvestella is nothing to write home about and it seemed like it is just in the game because of the trend.
It was a disservice to market it as a farming game when that alienates a chunk of the potential audience and then further alienates the farming sim fans when they find out those systems aren't as fleshed out.
@@JustTheGems just some stuff in the remake (nightmares) that wont make sense and cant be accessed if you didn't beat 2 first. i assume thats why Nightmares unlock is a free dlc. but it unlocks auto after beating 2
Love the harvestella content. Have you checked out any of the rune factory games? I consider 4 S tier and one of my favorite games of all time. 3 and 5 also good but the performance issues with 5 tend to make me score it lower
I really want to finish Octo2 as well but the combat is so draining for me. I kinda just wanted to see the rest of the story after i hit the 30+ hour mark.
1:32 ("Crystar") Oh that's interesting. Most people I've seen talk about "Crystar" generally didn't like it. Either due to the gameplay, which is fair enough, to even the writing, seen it called amateur tier or worse. Think the only channel I've ever seen not absolutely hate it was JRPG Jungle. So I'm kind of surprised to see another channel actually share some positive sentiments about it. For the most part, I'm on the side that really likes the game. Something about it just connected with me. Like, I could write a whole essay about how it interconnects its themes with its mechanics and even subverts them at times to deliver messages. Not to mention the OST which is just fantastic, been primarily listening to it this past week in fact. Heck, I'm even playing through its sequel, "Crymachina", as I'm listening to this video. Apparently the game was inspired by "Drakengard" and, yeah, I can definitely see some stark similarities if that's true. Like how each weapon has it's own message or story that updates as they get upgraded to even how the ending(s) are executed. 13:02 ("Tales of Vesperia: DE") This game is kind of a sour point for me. I really like the "Tales of" franchise and, as someone who has never had an XBox, I never had a chance to play it. I'd been hearing for over a literal decade about how great of an entry it is. One of the best even. Once I finally got my hands on it through the "Definite Edition", I came out of it oddly disappointed. A consequence of overhype I suppose. I made sure to basically fully complete the game when I played it. Finished the post game area, finished the alternative final boss fight, did all the bonus objectives during boss fights, fully filled out both the item and monster compendiums, got every title for every character, etc. I just didn't really find myself enjoying it that much compared to some of the other entries for a number of reasons unfortunately. And I hate that I feel this way since it just reinforces how I often end up as a contrarian. Oh well.
Honestly, I can see why some people dislike Crystar, but it just ticks every important box for me. And I know what you mean with Vesperia. Overhype has killed a lot of things for me in the past. (I was fortunate that Vesperia originally came out when I was sort of "on pause" with gaming, so I didn't experience the hype at all.)
I think you just don’t like that specific style of game as all of the games you mentioned fall under a certain category of game. Which is one that prioritizes a theme or narrative over all else. Where the game mechanics, music, and graphics etc are all in service of one unique goal. And I actually would say that that category isn’t my favorite though I appreciate it for what it is. all three of those games moved me in a way my favorite games ( Minus nier automata) never could. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you can’t be great.
Silent protaganists are fine, but Joker HAS a personality. your dailouge options are Limited in such a way that you see their personality. Joker HAS a personality.
@@JustTheGems people don't like constant interruption from the character they are playing, and voice acting only works in cutscenes. And tadaaa, joker speaks in cutcenes
@@kittenfan7664 I'd disagree, he says maybe two words in the whole game? I can't think of a reason that the options I choose for him to say shouldn't be voiced, just like every other character.
@@JustTheGems it's more of the general consensus. people don't like a character being there that semi constantly talks during gameplay. Example NAVI. it's a way to save money and keep people from getting annoyed.
I hope you do get back to Octopath 2, it is light years better than the first. It has great connecting stories, music is S tier, battle systems made some minor improvements, grinding is not needed at all to beat the game, only if you want to challenge secret bosses. It's easily my game of year so far this year. Anyway, great tier list to listen too!
Also on the grinding point, if/when you do decide to grind for the secret boss, they made it so incredibly easy by creating an NPC you can recruit who, when summoned, will only ever use Exp or JP multiplier abilities. When I decided to grind for the superboss, I did 2 hours of Cait farming, got everyone into the 80s, and I was done. Super easy
I can't say I agree with every choice, but... Harvestella? My god, I got fingers crossed for a part 2 (and a little polish). Btw, you ranked Torna, but no Xeno dlc 1 or 3?
Harvestella love always makes me happy. Oh, and I would put the Xeno DLC right alongside their respective games, I should have mentioned that in the video.
Torna is the only one who got a physical release so i think it fine not to rank the others separately. future connected wasn't even a DLC it was part of the Switch Version.
Yeah it's all just a matter of taste. Certain aspects of a game (mostly story/characters/music/MOOD in general) have much more weight than others for me.
Are you saying that every S-tier game is better than A tier is better than B-tier etc.? This is my problem I have with these tier list videos and maybe people should explain better. Just make sure to make it clear that it’s based on your experience instead of quality of the game. I understand how hard it is to compare games and try to exclude when they came out. What order would you recommend these games 1-x? That’s what I would like to know.
Honestly, that's why people do the tier list format. It's a much steeper challenge to do a 1-x type list. I would say the ranking is based on my experience and my perception of the game's quality.
Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition is better than Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in almost every way. It's honestly incomprehensible to me how people like the second game more. But you like what you like, no hate, I just don't get it honestly. The MC is turbo garbage and the relationships are weird af.
spoken like a true xenoblade 2 hater. many of the issues with xenoblade 2 are the most visible, and so the game gets so much flack. people don't understand rex becuase they don't try to. they just see the earlygame and say, rex= garbage. also is complaning about the relationships actualy complaining about that ONE heart to heart? the combat is SO much more in depth, (tutorials suck tho) and everyone INCLUDEING the MC are great characters with more going on that you would think. rex is a true optomist, but he learns to Overcome the Toxic side of it. he will see the good in others, but can and DOES resort to violence to deal with a threat. rex was right about Malos and Jin. he was too late. his dreams could never have been realized. also the relationships were only made really wierd by xenoblade 3. poligamy in a 100% consentual relationship is heavaly stigmatized for spesific reasons that might stem from similar stigatization of being gay. tora is wierd but that makes it satisfying when morag just BURNS HIM.
@@kittenfan7664 idk i think the relationships were weird in xenoblade 2 on its own without taking 3 into account. There's three adult women who've lived for a long time that are all pining for a 15 year old boy.
@@sentoworf yeah but it's the I hate x thing that gets overemphasized by people to make the game look worse. So the game Is garbage and anyone who likes the game is a weirdo. That's the thing that I really have a problem with
100% agree with your hot take on silent protagonists, I like Persona, Ys VIII and many other games with silent protagonists but despite the main character, I don´t insert myself either in them I just see them bland.
Yeah, bland and nothing but a drag on the story. Some games with silent protags are great, but I think that's in spite of the protagonist, not because of them.
I love how you hate silent protagonist’s because I do too. And yet Chrono Trigger is your favorite game. Don’t get me wrong I completely understand because persona 3-5, and Chrono trigger are all in my top 10. All amazing stories I feel. But I’ve always hated the silent protagonist.
Sometimes I think about how much more awesome those games would be if they had protagonists with personalities... :) But yeah, I'm also a huge Persona 3-5 fan, and that's despite the silent protag.
Yeah, I see The Longest Five Minutes as like a poem, whereas Bravely Default 2 is a novel and Octopath Traveler 2 is a book of short stories. It's almost impossible to rank them against each other legitimately because they're completely different forms.
Played: Octopath Traveler - Agree music is great but didn't finish it. The Longest 5 Minutes - Couldn't get into it / didn't grab me. Xenoblade Chronicles - Got overwhelmed at the beginning and haven't gone back to it. Chrono Cross Radical Dreamers Edition - Also bought from Play-Asia. Agreed that it needed to have more done with the series. Where's a Chrono Trigger remaster (looking at you, SQUEENIX)? Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters - Love this / Currently Playing. Should be S rank for FFVI alone (in my opinion). Collection of Mana - Currently Playing / Played Secret of Mana on the SNES. Haven't Played / Unopened: Crystar Octopath Traveler II Y's Origin The World Ends With You Final Remix Bravely Default II Live a Live Harvestella The rest of the games you mentioned, I don't have in my collection and have not played.
Seconding the love for Omori, that game is amazing. I'd have put Xenoblade 2 lower probably, the field actions and gacha system just ruined the game for me. But 3 is definitely S-tier. Looking at this list does make me realize that I haven't played a lot of Switch RPGs. I should get on that.
Omori is godlike, I love it. You're right about the gacha/field stuff in XB2, those things made me rage more than once, but the other aspects I ended up liking carried a bit more weight for me in the end.
bro you give bravely default a a tier haahahah your trolling its sucks it belongs c or d no storty grindin like a fool and still more grinding , play it again broo
I wouldn't say "better," I would just say that I enjoyed Engage more. Neither of them blew me away in the story department, so I give the edge on gameplay to Engage is all.
I think if/when I finish it, it will move up to AT LEAST an A for me! It's just right now, having dropped it, I didn't feel right ranking it higher than Octopath 1 when I did at least finish that one.
Happy to see the love for Harvestella, I really liked that game! The soundtrack is particularly underrated.
It really is. Wished Square Enix would release the OST on CD.
Couldn't agree more!
BIG SAME
I bought it on his recommendation! Haven’t played it yet though
I believe that everyone who makes a tier list like this is basically just going with their gut. After all, we're trying to judge art here, so it is inherently subjective.
Exactly. I joke that it's objectively correct, but that's just for goofin'.
Of course… we watch these lists not for objective truth but to see what other people are thinking.
@@joelman1989And when we find others with similar taste it gives us a reference point to find more within the same realm with an expected quality 😊
I’m playing Harvestella right now and I’m absolutely IN LOVE! I love the balance of the life sim genre and action RPG! It literally never gets boring, the characters are all really interesting, and the aesthetic and the world are BEAUTIFUL!
Ahhhh... It does my heart good to see Harvestella love. 😍
You forgot to mention the phenomenal soundtrack ;)
@@FelixS. 1000%.
Would it be accurate to call Harvestella a 3D Stardew Valley? I got it recommended from Reddit users as a cozy game. Which is exactly what I'm after these days.
@@JamieR In the sense that there's farming and crafting, yeah. But it's much, much more of an RPG/Action-RPG than Stardew is. I'd say the combat and other RPG elements are like 75-80% of the game, and the farming, etc. is around 20.
'Silent protagonists have gotta go'....SUBSCRIBED lol. I've always thought the same thing. I need a well-written main character, not a blank slate to really enjoy a story.
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
From just the Gems to just the left speaker.
Edit: seems like it was corrected.
😅 Only for the first minute or so 😅
This was an outstanding video. Great flow, informative, personal even, and just the right amount of humour.
S-tier content 😉
29:11 I got Saturday Morning RPG for my 35th birthday this year, and I find it very nostalgic because I grew up with a surprising amount of 80s cartoons in the 90s either due to reruns or renting VHS tapes of ones no longer on the air. There are a dozen or so 80s cartoons that I still find very enjoyable so it feels like this game was made for me. I agree with it being a B tier game, personally I would put it in the A tier if it weren't for the annoying fact that you can only get into so many battles every chapter. One of the reasons RPGs are my favorite video game genre is because of how you can make the battles easier by level grinding. I would even look at guides with recommended levels then make sure that my party was beyond those levels before going through that part so not being able to level grind feels wrong for an RPG. The second or third boss in the first chapter took me 3 tries to beat, and the bosses in chapter 2 kicked my butt on the first try because one of them keeps healing both. Fortunately watching a playthrough of that fight taught me a way to possibly beat them.
You're the third person I've seen recently to highly recommend Harvestella, and I've always been curious about it, so I think I will have to pick it up now 👍
I really hope you enjoy it, it's legitimately one of my all time favorites now
Agreed with the love for Harvestella. That game is so criminally underrated. It's honestly sad how many people immediately dismissed it because it didn't match their idea of a farm sim or doesn't look like a high budget JRPG. The name honestly didn't help it all with marketing. It makes sense in a story context after playing it, but for attracting new players, it gives false expectations unfortunately.
Yeah agreed, I like the name personally but you're right that it creates the impression it's much more of a farming game.
Yo man, tangential question: what's your opinion on the original Xenogears? (We're close in age)
It's my second favorite game of all time. ✌
@@JustTheGems Best RPG of all time along with Chrono Trigger.
I love that even the lower ranked games on your list still get a fair explanation and lots of caveats (although I suspect it’s a bit out of fear of mega fans). Thinking I may have to move Harvestella up on my backlog since you speak so highly of it.
From what I’ve heard the game is similar to Rune Factory, one of my all time favorites. Have you tried the series out/considered playing any of the games?
Yeah, and honestly it's not so much fear of mega fans in particular, but just that I really don't like saying bad things about stuff people like. So if I have criticisms, I always try to be as kind and in depth as I can be. And YES, please play Harvestella!!!
Octopath Traveller 2 is amazing! Definitely give it a shot again when you can let it breathe a bit. One of my favorites so far.
Someone else also just encouraged me to do that, too, so I think this is the universe telling me I need to make it happen.
NGL, When it comes to tier list videos like this, I tend to skip to the end of the video just cause I want to see the list at full.
I gotta say you do have good tastes in JRPGs, even if there are certain spots that I disagree with. (If it were my list, I would put Three Houses higher than Engage, Bravely Default 2 a tier lower and all three Xenoblades would be S tier) But yeah.
Thank you! In all honesty, if I were to do the list again, I might even feel slightly different. Since it was all spur of the moment, with more reflection I might make a few different decisions -- but overall I think I'm comfortable with where I slotted things.
@@JustTheGems Would love to see an updated one when the switch successor is out, assuming you've got more switch rpgs to add to the list
Love your comments on xenoblade 3 and the characters
Thanks! They just did such a good job with the characters, I can't stop gushing about them
Xenoblade 1 is an S or you are simply wrong! ;-) Seriously though, I am trying to follow the logic in not like the MMO style combat for that game that is also used in its sequels which you liked more? Also art direction, music, pacing, story, character development, scale, and that originally came out in Japan like a dozen years ago, its a masterclass in JRPG's.
He put a game like the longest five minutes as an S at the beginning, which I consider an enjoyable but prettry crappy game xd. And you know what? It's Ok. It's his list not yours, not mine, and each person enjoys more somethings than others. He is not trying to class them objectively (which in fact it's imposible 100%) but by gut feeling.
I agree with you, like 99% of people who played xenoblade 1, but that doesn't make any of us wrong
Yeah, if I had to rank the Xenoblade series as a whole, it would probably be an S rank series for me. Grading individual parts is where it's tricky, and where it's sort of a mini ranking within itself. Going by the amount of enjoyment I had playing each of the games, I feel solid in what I ranked, but your mileage may vary.
@@JustTheGems yeah, I have more positive opinions on Xenoblade 1 as I played it on WIi in 2012 and at the time not only was it the best JRPG I had ever played, it also had the best voice acting, storytelling, pacing, and music ever in a videogame and few games have seriously challenged it since.
@@alejandrosunshadow6041 yeah, I mean I see a lot more flaws in XB2 in its ending, some of its field skills, random Blades, creature spefiic abilities which don't matter when every story boss is a humanoid or Blade boss, the Tiger Tiger Poppi sidequest, and its inferior navigation. I liked XB2, but by any standard, it was nowhere near as good as 1 or 3.
@@hepwo91222 it's an S tier story for me for sure. Now that I'm more used to the gameplay, my ranking MIGHT change if I were to play it again, but the backlog is too darn big to double dip right now...😅
I'd put Octopath 2 in S tier. If you played the game fully, you'd probably agree.
You're probably right
@@JustTheGems By the way, could you go into a full on review of Harvestella, and deeply explore what you like so much about it. I didn't buy it because from what I heard it was more akin to a AA game asking for a AAA price.
I'd like to buy it, but I'd really like to know what you find so compelling about it before I do.
@@shadowwarrior3444 I did actually do a review on it (check under the Reviews playlist, I'm pretty sure I sorted it there) - if there's anything else you want to know about it that I didn't cover, ask away!
Any chance you’ll review the new Star Ocean 2 remake?
Definitely, or at the very least I'll include it when I start my big Star Ocean series playthrough, where I'm planning to do at least a mini-review of each entry.
Great list, I'll have to check out some of the ones you really liked. I haven't played a lot of these, but personally I thought Octopath II was absolutely amazing, definitely S tier material. For me, it competes with Sea of Stars for the top spot for RPG of 2023. I know, I know, people are gonna hate on me for even questioning Sea of Stars' supremacy. I loved Sea of Stars too, but if I am being honest, the character development in OTII was definitely superior, and OTII's battle system had more depth, so overall both games are in a pretty close tie for me. Either way, I highly recommend playing both games. Anyway, thanks for the video, and I hope you will give OTII another try when you have time, it's worth it!
Yeah, I think if/when I complete OTII, it will almost certainly move up to at least A rank for me. I think it's objectively better than the first in just about every way.
Good ranking video...don't completely agree with all but happy to see Harvestella up there - loved it though I never finished it. Didn't see any Atelier games on there but guess that is kind of an acquired taste ( I'm fond of Ryza and the Sophie remake..).
I've only really played one Atelier game to completion (Rorona) but I enjoyed it! I'll be getting to those eventually.
It's incredible how much I felt and enjoyed Harvestella. I don't remember experiencing that much emotion with Xenoblade franchise for some reason, and yeah, I was laughed at when. I said that Harvestella is one of my favorites of all time, and I was like: "Yeah, I love the game with kinda playstation 3 graphics". It's not a game for everyone, that much I admit, but for me was the best month I had in gaming in a couple of years.
I doubt there will be more of Harvestella, its sales weren't stellar, but oh boy, how I'd love to see more.
I love Xenoblade. Besides Golden Sun my favorite JRPG series. But I also love Harvestella. Really great game. Underrated af.
Yeah, the bummer of it all is that SE didn't do a great job marketing Harvestella, and it's fallen on the fans to shout about it. And there's only so much we can do!
Harvestella barely gets any love and it’s just incredible so much emotion thinking back to that game I played the demo and didn’t like it but got the game on release anyways and it’s one of my fave rpgs ever.
Also where would you rank smt5 I found it amazing?
Yep, it's beyond underrated. It has it's flaws. But the feeling of this title is special. Music is amazing.
Harvestella hype all day long! As for SMTV, I haven't played it yet...😱 But I will!!
Great list, I really loved you put To the Moon on this list, one of the few games to make me cry. Probably the best $10 I ever spent on a game although I played it on the PC and is a one of a kind experience that transcends gaming. Also, I got a good chuckle out of your Shin Megami Tensei V Collectors edition in the background without having played it! That game, Sea of Stars, and Octopath Traveler 2 would be my favorites I played on the Switch. Have to give Harvestella a try based off of your praise, definitely seems like something I might enjoy.
Oh yeah, I REALLY hope you like Harvestella! I just want to get everyone to at least give it a try! (There's a demo...)
Partially agree with you on the silent protagonist front but I will say, with Chrono Trigger and with Persona 3 FES the silent protagonist actually enhanced the experience for me.
Apart from CT & P3FES though I agree the silent protagonist isn’t needed anymore
I'm kinda of two minds about it. On the one hand, I don't personally feel like Chrono Trigger benefited from having a silent protag. But on the other hand, I can't really imagine it HAVING a speaking Crono. But overall, I agree, we don't need silent protagonists anymore.
@@JustTheGems Very true mate 🍻 Complete sidebar but keep up the great content, really enjoy your work, If you have an hour to kill and wanna hear a fellow JRPG lover ramble on about World of Final Fantasy Maxima… I gotchu
ruclips.net/video/9FcAhNpNUAU/видео.htmlsi=cp5zMwBhZeqnQoxm 😊🍻
Also I picked up Crystar based on your recommendation 🍻
As a Tales series lifer who would put Vespy in my top three gaming memories of all time I am forced to reckon that it’s only great and not legendary. And that’s okay I think.
I love the Tales series, but I haven't played one that I put on the "Legendary" level yet, I suppose. They're mostly all great to me, which is still far better than most games can claim.
Great video :) I remember doing a first look video on here of Mato Anomalies. I think I did it after it was released, so wasn't me you were on about :)
Yeah, it was definitely pre-launch, and then I remember it kinda fell off my radar again for a while. I really hope it's just an issue with the Switch, because if it weren't for the jankiness, I imagine I would have been able to keep going (maybe not all the way, but certainly for much longer)
More switch jrpg content, keep it coming!
Oh, there will be more...!
I share exactly the same feeling about Octopath Traveler 2 vs. 1 and it feels good to hear other people feeling the same way :-)
Thanks for this video!
Thank you! I hope that I get motivated to finish it one day, but there's just too much out there now vying for my attention.
I totally understand why you ranked Octopath 2 as you did, and I can't really fault you for it, but man is it unfortunate. Octopath 2 is my favorite game in years, and the improvements it made are incredible. I hope you do get to go back to it, because it's a hell of a time.
Yeah, that is one area where I'm super disappointed in myself. I don't usually get easily distracted, but I think that happened this time.
Awesome list and OMG! THANK YOU - silent protagonists have GOTS TA GO! I am not the main character, lol, totally agree!
Right?!? Thanks Paige!
It's really refreshing to hear honest opinions on a range of games ...
I must admit I've often not felt as enthused about some of the big titles as so many others do.
I've been away from the Switch for a while but am planning to play some rpg's in the coming months.
My list is getting quite big!!
Chrono Cross, Final Fantasy 7,9 and 10, Grandia and Suikoden (not sure when it releases) are all calling me!!
I had the Longest 5 minuets on Vita but never got to it, so I'll try and pick it up.
Omori looks super good, so made some mental notes to try it at some point ..
I'm going to try and just buy a few games at a time and there's a lot of hours in the above already
Enjoyed your list very much and hopped on board your train.
Happy gaming.
🐕
You'll be well served by any of those games you mentioned, they're all excellent!
So wait… you’ve never played the ps1 games you mentioned??? I’m so jealous of you. I think that final fantasy 9 and 10 are nearly perfect and with the ability to fast forward battles in 9 that clears the only minor complaint I could think of. I think anyone can enjoy those games. Final fantasy 7 is my favorite game of all time so I don’t think my bias can properly allow me to objectively recommend it but subjectively I think it still holds up. Though I can see why the graphics might put someone off. Chrono Cross, Grandia , and Suikoden 2 are also among my favorites.
Suikoden 2 is another very easy recommendation. It’s probably the best game on that list honestly lol. If I’m being objective.
As far as Grandia 1-2. There are a few games that have made me think “I think this is my favorite video game ever” and FF7, FF9, Grandia 1-2, Persona 4, have all made me say that at one point in my life. So I really need to replay the Grandia games soon but I’m sure they still hold up.
But you really need time add star ocean second story R to your list.
I will also recommend FF8. While the story didn’t capture me as much as 10 or 7, and mechanically it’s not as perfect 9, I think it is still one of the best RPGs ever made. It’s just living right underneath the shadow of some truly transcendent games. Don’t get me wrong it comes very close imo. I think it probably has my favorite soundtrack in a video game. Don’t let the lack of hype deter you from it. Its remaster is also probably one of the better handled from square.
And I’ll recommend FF12 as well. Again, probably a step down for many but it’s still better than a lot of other stuff out there. Like it wouldn’t even surprise me if you enjoy FF12 the most or FF8 the most. Like my best friend favorite is 12 and my brothers is 8.
Now if we could just get square to port Vagrant Story and xenogears to the switch…Your education would be complete.
SMT V collector's edition on the shelf be like 👀👀👀
One of these days...!
I'm super interested in trying Mary Skelter
I think it's definitely worth a try, even if just to see if it clicks with you.
You were mentioned on SuperDerek and Bakusans podcast Hitpoint's latest episode fyi.
I'm always happy to watch all your videos but these kinds on particular. For starters your opinions differ from mine which is always refreshing to hear a different perspective than my own. And secondly because you do a great job of explaining your point of view as to what you think of a game
I agree with Octopath 1 being super grindy and me not finishing the last secret boss because I didn't get like grinding for hours.
I also agree with secret of mana. I was born in 82 and played it when it first came out but it's really hard to play now. For the collection to play with my daughter and man is it rough. The hit detection and the grinding for magic levels are just not fun. However, trials of mana is amazing and worth getting the collection for. I also got Trinity Trigger to play with her, and backed Shrines Legacy to play with her too.
Ara Fell is AMAZING! and rise of the third power is then better. Both are S tier in my book. I own the digital copies and bought the physical edition too.
Oh man, it was pretty mind-melting when I came up on that podcast. The very idea that SuperDerek even knew who I was was just 🤯.
I'm gonna prioritize Rise of the Third Power in the new year, I think. A lot of people have said it's even better than Ara Fell, which is already so fantastic.
@@JustTheGems man I had a lot of typos in that comment. Glad you could understand it. And yeah I was happy to hear you come up on the podcast as you're definitely one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
Rise of the third power is one of my favorite games I've played in the recent past. And Ara Fell is up there too. Loved both
1000% agreed on Harvestella! Awesome video.
Yes! Thank you!! Gotta give as much Harvestella hype as possible!
as sOmeone whO enjoys jrpg's HOW COULD YOU PUT ENGAGE ABOVE 3 HOUSES???!
Just cuz I enjoyed it more.
Keep the fire coming 🔥 Really enjoyed this; open, honest and off the cuff
Thank you! This ended up being a lot of fun to make.
Ok… I hate that I have to give a criticism because I LOVE your channel and appreciate your commentary in all of your videos….
But…. What is up with the audio in your videos? When I watch using earbuds, the sound is often only going to my left ear. It’s only for your videos.
All of the audio? Or just voice or music?
I did notice that the intro voice audio was only coming through the left channel, but it's corrected at around a minute in. Is that what you were noticing?
Yes it did correct itself. There was one recent video where it was consistent throughout the video.
Sorry when I was commenting it was before the correction.
Keep on keeping on… hope you didn’t take my comment as negative.
@@LaLtheGaL No no, not at all, I appreciate it! Yeah, I recently switched editing programs, and I'm working out some of the kinks... 😅
My dude, that's a lotta games! I've only played a small handful of JRPG's on Switch, I'll need to catch up to you! 🤣
They just keep adding more to the pile, we're all gonna be digging through these for quite a long time!
I also personally enjoyed Engage more than Three Houses. In fact, I struggle to really remember anything about Three Houses (story, characters, or otherwise) at all. Also, Undertale? That wasn't developed in Japan. What's it doing on here?
I argue "JRPG" is a style, not an indicator of where a game was made. Like, "French toast" isn't toast made in France, right? I view it similarly. They're games that share a certain design sensibility, and that particular sensibility was originally crafted and perfected in Japan.
@@JustTheGems Hm. OK. Fair enough. I can't really argue anyway since I haven't played Undertale.
it's unfortunate but i agree that The World Ends with You was not great on the switch and i say that as the DS version is one of my all time favorite games, glad Xenoblade 3 and Harvestella are so high up and getting love!
If they could find a way to remake TWEWY in a way that creates a similarly entertaining gameplay loop, I'd be all over that. But yeah, the way they chose to do it just didn't click for me.
I am a huge Xenoblade fan. Xenoblade 1 on the Wii is the game that really ignited my love for JRPGs anew and Xenoblade 3 was such a perfect send off to this arc BUT i can see why this series isn't for everyone especially the gameplay. And even though Xenoblade 3 is objectively better than 1 with a much more fleshed out cast and better written story Xenoblade 1 will forever stay my favorite i think because it had such a huge impact on my hobby.
And Harvestella is such a hidden gem. After playing A LOT of farming games it is a much better Jrpg than farming game and i am a little pissed that they pushed the farming aspect so hard in all the merketing.
Agreed on XB, I understand totally why the first is so many people's favorite (this applies to some of my friends who like it, too). The gameplay has never been my FAVORITE overall, but by the third game I felt more or less comfortable with it.
And you're 100% right on the marketing, I think they were expecting there to be a bigger farming sim community out there champing at the bit for a game like Harvestella, when in reality they would have been so much better served just selling it to RPG fans in general
@@JustTheGems Lately many developers just include farming because the genre had a boom since Stardew Valley. But the farming in Harvestella is nothing to write home about and it seemed like it is just in the game because of the trend.
It was a disservice to market it as a farming game when that alienates a chunk of the potential audience and then further alienates the farming sim fans when they find out those systems aren't as fleshed out.
Just a bit of news, Maryskelter 2 is meant to be played before Nightmares
Oh, it's like a prequel? Do you think it's gonna ruin anything that I've played Nightmares first? (I haven't started 2 yet.)
@@JustTheGems just some stuff in the remake (nightmares) that wont make sense and cant be accessed if you didn't beat 2 first. i assume thats why Nightmares unlock is a free dlc. but it unlocks auto after beating 2
Love the harvestella content. Have you checked out any of the rune factory games? I consider 4 S tier and one of my favorite games of all time. 3 and 5 also good but the performance issues with 5 tend to make me score it lower
I've picked up 3-5 on the Switch, so I'm planning on getting to them soon!
Octopath traveler 2 below Live a live and bravely default 2. Tsk tsk.
It's a bummer, I wish it had grabbed me and held on better
Babe wake up, Just the Gems posted
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I really want to finish Octo2 as well but the combat is so draining for me. I kinda just wanted to see the rest of the story after i hit the 30+ hour mark.
Yeah, it's a tough nut to crack, especially after you fall out of playing it.
@@JustTheGems just finished the game a couple days ago. 95 hours on the save.
@@exmerion holy cow, that's a meaty game
1:32 ("Crystar")
Oh that's interesting. Most people I've seen talk about "Crystar" generally didn't like it. Either due to the gameplay, which is fair enough, to even the writing, seen it called amateur tier or worse. Think the only channel I've ever seen not absolutely hate it was JRPG Jungle. So I'm kind of surprised to see another channel actually share some positive sentiments about it.
For the most part, I'm on the side that really likes the game. Something about it just connected with me. Like, I could write a whole essay about how it interconnects its themes with its mechanics and even subverts them at times to deliver messages. Not to mention the OST which is just fantastic, been primarily listening to it this past week in fact. Heck, I'm even playing through its sequel, "Crymachina", as I'm listening to this video.
Apparently the game was inspired by "Drakengard" and, yeah, I can definitely see some stark similarities if that's true. Like how each weapon has it's own message or story that updates as they get upgraded to even how the ending(s) are executed.
13:02 ("Tales of Vesperia: DE")
This game is kind of a sour point for me. I really like the "Tales of" franchise and, as someone who has never had an XBox, I never had a chance to play it. I'd been hearing for over a literal decade about how great of an entry it is. One of the best even. Once I finally got my hands on it through the "Definite Edition", I came out of it oddly disappointed. A consequence of overhype I suppose.
I made sure to basically fully complete the game when I played it. Finished the post game area, finished the alternative final boss fight, did all the bonus objectives during boss fights, fully filled out both the item and monster compendiums, got every title for every character, etc. I just didn't really find myself enjoying it that much compared to some of the other entries for a number of reasons unfortunately. And I hate that I feel this way since it just reinforces how I often end up as a contrarian. Oh well.
Honestly, I can see why some people dislike Crystar, but it just ticks every important box for me.
And I know what you mean with Vesperia. Overhype has killed a lot of things for me in the past. (I was fortunate that Vesperia originally came out when I was sort of "on pause" with gaming, so I didn't experience the hype at all.)
I totally disagree with your list (Omori, Undertale, To the moon?? Absolutely C games) but very good video!!! We want others of them!!
Thanks! Always glad when people can disagree and still have a good time!
I think you just don’t like that specific style of game as all of the games you mentioned fall under a certain category of game. Which is one that prioritizes a theme or narrative over all else. Where the game mechanics, music, and graphics etc are all in service of one unique goal. And I actually would say that that category isn’t my favorite though I appreciate it for what it is. all three of those games moved me in a way my favorite games (
Minus nier automata) never could.
Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean you can’t be great.
Silent protaganists are fine, but Joker HAS a personality. your dailouge options are Limited in such a way that you see their personality. Joker HAS a personality.
I would say, in that case, give him a voice! Even if I'm choosing the options, why not let him be heard?
@@JustTheGems people don't like constant interruption from the character they are playing, and voice acting only works in cutscenes. And tadaaa, joker speaks in cutcenes
@@JustTheGems just see how upset people get at the constant navi interruptions
@@kittenfan7664 I'd disagree, he says maybe two words in the whole game? I can't think of a reason that the options I choose for him to say shouldn't be voiced, just like every other character.
@@JustTheGems it's more of the general consensus. people don't like a character being there that semi constantly talks during gameplay. Example NAVI. it's a way to save money and keep people from getting annoyed.
I hope you do get back to Octopath 2, it is light years better than the first. It has great connecting stories, music is S tier, battle systems made some minor improvements, grinding is not needed at all to beat the game, only if you want to challenge secret bosses. It's easily my game of year so far this year.
Anyway, great tier list to listen too!
Thank you! I agree, I'm hoping I can find some time and prioritize it.
Also on the grinding point, if/when you do decide to grind for the secret boss, they made it so incredibly easy by creating an NPC you can recruit who, when summoned, will only ever use Exp or JP multiplier abilities. When I decided to grind for the superboss, I did 2 hours of Cait farming, got everyone into the 80s, and I was done. Super easy
I can't say I agree with every choice, but... Harvestella? My god, I got fingers crossed for a part 2 (and a little polish). Btw, you ranked Torna, but no Xeno dlc 1 or 3?
Harvestella love always makes me happy. Oh, and I would put the Xeno DLC right alongside their respective games, I should have mentioned that in the video.
Torna is the only one who got a physical release so i think it fine not to rank the others separately. future connected wasn't even a DLC it was part of the Switch Version.
Xenoblade 1 didn't have dlc
you should try Ys 8 Lacrimosa of Dana
Oh, I love it! I played it on the PS4 (and I recently grabbed the PS5 version, not entirely sure why, but it was sort of an impulse buy...😅)
I do agree, I want my protagonist to be a real character. Go Alear!
Alear hype!
how crystar is better than both octopath traveler games!?! but hey im not here to judge your taste
Yeah it's all just a matter of taste. Certain aspects of a game (mostly story/characters/music/MOOD in general) have much more weight than others for me.
Bro is off his rocker
Brother???
Are you saying that every S-tier game is better than A tier is better than B-tier etc.? This is my problem I have with these tier list videos and maybe people should explain better. Just make sure to make it clear that it’s based on your experience instead of quality of the game. I understand how hard it is to compare games and try to exclude when they came out. What order would you recommend these games 1-x? That’s what I would like to know.
Honestly, that's why people do the tier list format. It's a much steeper challenge to do a 1-x type list. I would say the ranking is based on my experience and my perception of the game's quality.
Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition is better than Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in almost every way. It's honestly incomprehensible to me how people like the second game more. But you like what you like, no hate, I just don't get it honestly. The MC is turbo garbage and the relationships are weird af.
spoken like a true xenoblade 2 hater. many of the issues with xenoblade 2 are the most visible, and so the game gets so much flack. people don't understand rex becuase they don't try to. they just see the earlygame and say, rex= garbage. also is complaning about the relationships actualy complaining about that ONE heart to heart? the combat is SO much more in depth, (tutorials suck tho) and everyone INCLUDEING the MC are great characters with more going on that you would think. rex is a true optomist, but he learns to Overcome the Toxic side of it. he will see the good in others, but can and DOES resort to violence to deal with a threat. rex was right about Malos and Jin. he was too late. his dreams could never have been realized. also the relationships were only made really wierd by xenoblade 3. poligamy in a 100% consentual relationship is heavaly stigmatized for spesific reasons that might stem from similar stigatization of being gay. tora is wierd but that makes it satisfying when morag just BURNS HIM.
One thing I will definitely agree on: the relationships squick me out, big time. 😵
@@kittenfan7664 idk i think the relationships were weird in xenoblade 2 on its own without taking 3 into account. There's three adult women who've lived for a long time that are all pining for a 15 year old boy.
@@sentoworf yeah but it's the I hate x thing that gets overemphasized by people to make the game look worse. So the game Is garbage and anyone who likes the game is a weirdo. That's the thing that I really have a problem with
Man I don’t know what to say. This was just a really good video to listen to and hear your thoughts on these games.
I appreciate hearing that so much!
100% agree with your hot take on silent protagonists, I like Persona, Ys VIII and many other games with silent protagonists but despite the main character, I don´t insert myself either in them I just see them bland.
Yeah, bland and nothing but a drag on the story. Some games with silent protags are great, but I think that's in spite of the protagonist, not because of them.
Shame this video came out right on the release day of star ocean 2 R
It's okay, I'm the chump that bought it on PS5...😅 All my other Star Ocean games are on PlayStation consoles, so I wanted to be consistent.
I love how you hate silent protagonist’s because I do too. And yet Chrono Trigger is your favorite game. Don’t get me wrong I completely understand because persona 3-5, and Chrono trigger are all in my top 10. All amazing stories I feel. But I’ve always hated the silent protagonist.
Sometimes I think about how much more awesome those games would be if they had protagonists with personalities... :) But yeah, I'm also a huge Persona 3-5 fan, and that's despite the silent protag.
I know it's subjective, but certainly lost me the moment you put Bravely Default 2 and Octopath 2 below the 5 Min game...
Yeah, I see The Longest Five Minutes as like a poem, whereas Bravely Default 2 is a novel and Octopath Traveler 2 is a book of short stories. It's almost impossible to rank them against each other legitimately because they're completely different forms.
Played:
Octopath Traveler - Agree music is great but didn't finish it.
The Longest 5 Minutes - Couldn't get into it / didn't grab me.
Xenoblade Chronicles - Got overwhelmed at the beginning and haven't gone back to it.
Chrono Cross Radical Dreamers Edition - Also bought from Play-Asia. Agreed that it needed to have more done with the series. Where's a Chrono Trigger remaster (looking at you, SQUEENIX)?
Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters - Love this / Currently Playing. Should be S rank for FFVI alone (in my opinion).
Collection of Mana - Currently Playing / Played Secret of Mana on the SNES.
Haven't Played / Unopened:
Crystar
Octopath Traveler II
Y's Origin
The World Ends With You Final Remix
Bravely Default II
Live a Live
Harvestella
The rest of the games you mentioned, I don't have in my collection and have not played.
Oh man, you're in for a treat with some of those unplayeds!
What a beautiful man and what an interesting video
Seconding the love for Omori, that game is amazing. I'd have put Xenoblade 2 lower probably, the field actions and gacha system just ruined the game for me. But 3 is definitely S-tier. Looking at this list does make me realize that I haven't played a lot of Switch RPGs. I should get on that.
Omori is godlike, I love it. You're right about the gacha/field stuff in XB2, those things made me rage more than once, but the other aspects I ended up liking carried a bit more weight for me in the end.
only really disagree on a couple, FF pixel needs to be S tier for 4, 5, and 6 alone - 3 is the only game that is a slog to get through
Yeah, I'd also rank the SNES FFs in S tier generally speaking, I just felt like an A for the overall package sort of got at my feelings a bit better.
@@JustTheGemsI am checking out a few games I have yet to play on the switch so thank you for that
To be fair about Crystar's graphics...you did play the worst version.
Haha, this is true.
bro you give bravely default a a tier haahahah your trolling its sucks it belongs c or d no storty grindin like a fool and still more grinding , play it again broo
But if you think it's bad, do you really think I should play it again?? 😅😉
@@JustTheGems my bad i rant every time i see this horrible game dont play it again it sucks
Engage is better than three houses. Omg I have to click off.
I wouldn't say "better," I would just say that I enjoyed Engage more. Neither of them blew me away in the story department, so I give the edge on gameplay to Engage is all.
You lost me at the longest 5 minutes being an s tier game.
I think it's cool to find people we disagree with on things like this, shows how interesting and varied we all are in this hobby.
Octopath traveler 2 is B tier 🥲 it’s okay I’ll try not to take it personally lol
I think if/when I finish it, it will move up to AT LEAST an A for me! It's just right now, having dropped it, I didn't feel right ranking it higher than Octopath 1 when I did at least finish that one.