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I'm a JRPG guy through and through. From the classics to modern, if it's a JRPG, I'll probably play it. And I might even like it! I'm bringing you reviews, haul videos, collection walkthroughs, and so much more!
This is a game criticism and appreciation channel, so videos may contain spoilers.
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I'm a JRPG guy through and through. From the classics to modern, if it's a JRPG, I'll probably play it. And I might even like it! I'm bringing you reviews, haul videos, collection walkthroughs, and so much more!
This is a game criticism and appreciation channel, so videos may contain spoilers.
(Channel logo by Rick Schuler)
Sorry, These Non-JRPG Game Series Are JRPGs!
There's always a lot of debate about what constitutes a JRPG. There are criteria! We have to abide by the criteria! Well, what if I told you... I can prove these NON-JRPGs are, in fact, JRPGs? Would you believe me? Would you yell at me in the comments? Let's find out!
Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_Pursuit
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Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_Pursuit
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Phantom Brave The Lost Hero Review | Crazy Strange and Super Fun
Просмотров 4,4 тыс.14 часов назад
There are your typical tactical JRPGs with their dour politics and their valiant knights, and those are, I guess, like, fine or whatever. But every now and then, we get a bizarre title like Phantom Brave and its sequel, The Lost Hero, that throws all that convention out the window in favor of fun oddities and true innovation. Let's dive in, shall we? Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit...
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth on PC Blew My Mind!
Просмотров 3,2 тыс.16 часов назад
Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_Pursuit Please consider supporting me on Patreon! Get access to a members-only Discord: patreon.com/justthegems Or buy me a coffee on Ko-fi! - ko-fi.com/justthegems Twitter: www.x.com/_justthegems Bluesky: bsky.app/profile/justthegems.net Threads/...
These JRPGs Are Coming to Nintendo Switch 2 at LAUNCH - Definitely!
Просмотров 2,4 тыс.День назад
The Nintendo Switch 2 has been officially announced, putting an end to the worst-kept secret in video game history! And with a new console means JRPGs! While we can only speculate about what completely unannounced titles will eventually hit the console, particularly the first-party entries from series like Xeno or Fire Emblem, we CAN say a few things for sure let's look at a bunch of JRPGs that...
Making JRPG Resolutions I Can KEEP (for a change...)
Просмотров 3,4 тыс.14 дней назад
New year, new me? Well, maybe not. But I'm sure gonna try to be better about being intentional! There are some JRPG-related goals I really want to accomplish this year, and by golly I'm gonna try my best to accomplish them! Let me know if you have any gaming resolutions down in the comments, and if you're thinking of joining me on any particular resolution, let me know that too, so we can keep ...
My Wife Talks About My JRPG Collecting, and Things Get AWKWARD
Просмотров 10 тыс.21 день назад
In a relationship, every now and then you have to have an uncomfortable conversation or two. Over the years, it's safe to say my JRPG collecting has gotten out of hand, so I sat down to have a candid discussion with my wife Jenn, and we definitely dig into it! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite...
Place Your Bets! 2025 JRPG Predictions - New Xeno? New CHRONO?!
Просмотров 4,3 тыс.28 дней назад
I'm not afraid of being wrong, so let's all cross our fingers and hope these predictions for 2025 come true! And let me know some of your predictions down in the comments! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_Pursuit Please consider supporting me on Patreon! Get access to a members-o...
The BEST JRPGs of 2024 - Must Buy!
Просмотров 9 тыс.Месяц назад
So many excellent JRPGs graced our consoles this year. It's honestly kind of incredible. Check out my list of the 5 best JRPGs that came out in 2024, and be sure to let me know in the comments what games YOU'D have put on your list that I didn't! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_...
Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter News! + Ys X Proud Nordics Controversy!
Просмотров 6 тыс.Месяц назад
The late-night news dump from Falcom couldn't throw ME off! Here I am at 1:30 AM to bring you my thoughts on the news about Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter!! I couldn't possibly be more excited about this. And on top of that, we learn that there's a NEW version of Ys 10 Nordics with some additional content, but it's... a full, new retail release? What's going on over there??? Let me know your tho...
The MUST PLAY JRPGs of 2025!
Просмотров 15 тыс.Месяц назад
2025 is going to be a fully packed year of JRPGs! Maybe you want some advice on which ones to pay attention to - if so, I've got you covered. Take a look at my picks, and let me know if you think I'm missing any! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_Pursuit Please consider supporting...
The 2024 JRPG Lover's Gift Guide!
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.Месяц назад
Shopping for people like me can be extremely frustrating. Maybe you can relate - you see something you like, you buy it! It's simple. Unfortunately, it can make life difficult for our loved ones. So I humbly present to you the 2024 edition of the Just the Gems holiday gift guide! I hope this will give you some ideas for gifts to ask for, or to get for the JRPG lover in your life! Let me know ab...
The Must-Play Nostalgia JRPG of 2024 - Fantasian Neo Dimension Review
Просмотров 8 тыс.Месяц назад
I skipped Fantasian on the iPhone entirely, but turns out... I was missing out! Now that it's coming to consoles as Fantasian Neo Dimension, there's no longer any excuse to sleep on this game. Check out my review, and let me know what you're thinking down in the comments! Thanks to @squareenixna for the review code! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, whe...
JRPGs Are TOO LONG! | The Persona Problem
Просмотров 8 тыс.2 месяца назад
Is it just me, or are JRPGs SO freaking LONG these days? I wanted to talk about this, about why I think it's happening and why I don't think hour-count is a good indicator of a game's value. Let me know your thoughts down in the comments, too! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a multitude of topics related to our favorite hobby. @JRPG_Pur...
JRPGs Are BETTER than EVER! Here's Why.
Просмотров 3,1 тыс.2 месяца назад
A lot of digital ink has been spilled declaring the late 90s to be the golden age of JRPGs - but I think there's a much stronger argument to say that TODAY, this very MOMENT, is the best time ever to be a JRPG fan! Let's talk about why, and be sure to let me know your take down in the comments, too! Check out our JRPG Podcast, The JRPG Pursuit! New episodes every Wednesday, where we cover a mul...
Becoming a Better Person With JRPGs
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 месяца назад
Becoming a Better Person With JRPGs
Just the Gems: The 10K Special! Your Questions Answered!
Просмотров 2,4 тыс.2 месяца назад
Just the Gems: The 10K Special! Your Questions Answered!
Dragon Quest 3 Review - the Coziest (and Most Punishing) JRPG Ever
Просмотров 38 тыс.2 месяца назад
Dragon Quest 3 Review - the Coziest (and Most Punishing) JRPG Ever
The Narrative Game You MUST Experience
Просмотров 6392 месяца назад
The Narrative Game You MUST Experience
Why You Should Be HYPED for Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition
Просмотров 9 тыс.3 месяца назад
Why You Should Be HYPED for Xenoblade Chronicles X Definitive Edition
How to Get Your Partner into JRPGs | Featuring a Special Guest!
Просмотров 5 тыс.3 месяца назад
How to Get Your Partner into JRPGs | Featuring a Special Guest!
Ys X Nordics Review & Unboxing... plus GIVEAWAY!
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.3 месяца назад
Ys X Nordics Review & Unboxing... plus GIVEAWAY!
8 JRPGs That Don't Deserve the Hate! | Hidden Gems That Defy Metacritic
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8 JRPGs That Don't Deserve the Hate! | Hidden Gems That Defy Metacritic
I Sold My Games to Phoenix Resale | My Experience Selling on the One-Up App
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I Sold My Games to Phoenix Resale | My Experience Selling on the One-Up App
How Do We Choose What JRPG to Play NEXT? | GEMS 4
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How Do We Choose What JRPG to Play NEXT? | GEMS 4
REYNATIS Review - A Balanced Look at FuRyu's Latest Action RPG
Просмотров 6 тыс.4 месяца назад
REYNATIS Review - A Balanced Look at FuRyu's Latest Action RPG
Unboxing the REYNATIS Collector's Edition!
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Unboxing the REYNATIS Collector's Edition!
I'm WORRIED About Trails in the Sky the 1st... | G.E.M.S.
Просмотров 6 тыс.4 месяца назад
I'm WORRIED About Trails in the Sky the 1st... | G.E.M.S.
Romancing SaGa 2 Preview - Wait, Has SaGa ALWAYS Been Good??
Просмотров 5 тыс.4 месяца назад
Romancing SaGa 2 Preview - Wait, Has SaGa ALWAYS Been Good??
FANTASIAN Neo Dimension Hands-On - Sakaguchi's Latest Finally iPhone-Free!
Просмотров 2 тыс.4 месяца назад
FANTASIAN Neo Dimension Hands-On - Sakaguchi's Latest Finally iPhone-Free!
But, you become collector after married 🤔 It'd be different if you're collector wants to start relationship. I heard a lot that girls don't like dudes that play games 😑 unless that girl is also a gamer
Thanks for the breakdown! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (mistake turkey blossom warfare blade until bachelor fall squeeze today flee guitar). How can I transfer them to Binance?
Sooo Phantom Brave is XOXO fun game can't wait to recruit CORNET FROM THE RHAPSODY TRILOGY series and PRIER FROM LA PUCELLE RAGNAROK
iam busy and life is short i will be very contant with 10hrs of strong good gamplay and story then move to next game
I hope this game does well on PC. It was definitely one of the top 10 jrpgs of 2024.
Man everything is an RPG these days 😂
Metroidvanias are what I would call RPG-adjacent, but that’s close enough for me to count it. To The Moon I would classify as a 2D walking simulator or maybe adventure game, but that’s sometimes hard to define too.
I tend to play games that are minimum 5 years old. There are plenty out there and I can buy them so much cheaper than current releases.
A lot of people don't have a pc, let me know when it comes to xbox
literally just dropped a 2 min gameplay trailer in the middle of the night now ha
RUclips’s algorithm put this video/channel on my path. Having that music in the background was a nice touch. Well done and informative. Liked and subscribed. Best of luck to you and the channel!
You are certainly controversial with this one 😂 I haven't played most of these games, but I've always thought Zelda was JRPG-adjacent, like an action JRPG. It certainly has many elements of a JRPG and it is by Nintendo. RPGs are also blurring the lines these days as most RPGs now are action.
I love Rpgs/Jrpgs, I just finished Sea of Stars in like a week - it is such a fun game! I will wait a few months and play it again. I am play Monster Hunter Ruined Wings now. - also a fun game.
Super disingenuous to say "avoid SaGa Frontier, because it disappointed me when I was 12". I think your commentary on it is extremely half-assed lol. The animations it has would've been fine (and are better) than animation on SFC RPGs. The battle system is complex and full of shenanigans. The soundtrack isn't bad. There are tons of bangers. It's truly openworld, and there are alot of interesting points about each character's plot. It sounds like you didn't manage to get anywhere in order to experience it, and that is on you, but telling people to avoid it and that it's not very is super jank tier commentary man. Do better. Fortunately, you're in the minority about SF and people can go get the remastered one on PSN for like 5$ and play it.
I dunno, I feel like I'm in the majority with my feelings about this one. But I'm glad you like it!
Do you level up in To the Moon?
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I'm a good 60 hours in the demo, doing inefficient but fun grinding. Lilke taking my Cleric and getting her Spell Mastery from F to B, getting my Sailor basic Dood up to B's or As etc. Got my Juice Bar up to 10/90 now, and have a few of the rare fishing stuff done with that at level 4 as well hehehe. But my people are all level 15, merchant lv 18, and my equipment is like 15-20 (I cycle out). So I won't be like in the stratosphere at launch. The music is so good and the battles are a ton of fun; grinding up masteries and teaching skills to people and stuff. I love it.
Biggest peeve is this game is substantially less dark/serious than the first game, which was a strong point especially in the Another Marona story, partially due the chibi bobble head models, but still looks nice!
I would love to see Golden Sun come back, either as remakes/remasters of the three we already have or brand new entries in the series
This made me finally buy to the moon. If you like that you should try anything made by stranga games. Awesome little jrpg feeling horror games
I will always be on the side of Zelda is not a JRPG but I put that to rest. It does nothing for my life to die on that hill. I'd rather live a happy life.
Awesome video! I need to give Corpse Party a try!!!
Im in the camp that says , if there is no combat then it isnt a JRPG ... at that point it might just be a visual novel.
I played like... 12 hours of the demo just enjoying my time trying out all the different combinations for Confriend that I had access to, leveling weapons a bit, learning skills etc... I loved it so much and I'm so looking forward to the new game, was surprised to see it to be honest. I love the original as well. As much as I do prefer the 2D Sprites visually, the 3D Sprites make this particular game's combat a bit easier to to see and attacks easier to line up. IN particular it made knocking things out of bounds a bit more... obvious? If that makes sense. In regards to the targeting I too have shot my fair share of Daggers, but, just in case anyone doesn't know you don't need to be super fiddley with your single target attacks, you just have to be careful. You can line anyone up in them, and then press left or right on the D-Pad to swap between all targets in the target area. The one the green arrow is pointing at is the one you will hit, and as mentioned in the vid, also in the top left corner. I only have one complaint about the game, well one major complaint and one minor I should say. The Minor complaint was that even on the PS5 Pro the game can sometimes lose some framerate in combat, usually when confining on a large map with a lot of units. I worry about that going forward (And I tried it on the switch... good lord it's a slideshow). The Minor complaint and I know this is a personal thing. I cannot stand Apricot. The voice is like nails on a chalkboard and the personality is even worse, at least in the demo. That overly apologetic, submissive obnoxious child personality is one of my least favorite tropes and NIS seems to loooove using it. I Wish I could just turn her voice off because the rest of the cast so far sounded great. Loved Rueben the most. But, that's a minor qualm, I can always skip the story and not use her in combat. The combat is where the old game shined and where this one shined in the demo as well and I wish it was the 30th already so I could play this all damn night!
original Phantom Braves plot and characters... it's just too sad T - T we cried...
I'm a big SRPG fan so this looks really appealing
With all due to respect to you and the Trails fandom, I'm gonna have to decline playing in release order for this series. I understand why you and other fans suggest this route, but for me I simply do not have the time. Had this been 10-15 years ago, I would've had no problem but I'm almost 28 and I have a full time job, bills and other hobbies alongside Trails. So I can't devote my time to playing everything in the series. I'm sure the other games are great, but I started with Cold Steel and am more than comfortable where I am.
Holy shit Days Since I Mentioned Harvestella make me choke on the Snickers ice cream bar I was eating. You almost killed me...
The Yakiza series before the 7th one are what I like to call "JRPGs with alternative battle systems", which includes games like the recent Captain Tsubasa game or Racing Lagoon
That was a pretty sweet intro transition! I think some others you could add to the list would be Okami, Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, and pretty much all of the monster collecting games. And hear me out, maybe; just maybe, Oregon Trail...
I just finished Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow last night and could certainly classify it as JRPG as well as MetroidVania. And it's an absolute banger!
I agree with basically all of this. SoTN, Zelda, Yakuza for sure are. Nice video!
10:30 By this logic, everything is an rpg. Enemies have hit points in platform games like Mario. Do we consider Mario an rpg because Bowsers health gets lower? Of course not. Zelda is an action adventure. Just because it's a fantasy setting and he has a sword, it doesn't make it an rpg. What even is the point of genre if people are just going to blatantly disregard the building blocks of genres in the first place? It's like me calling Final Fantasy a visual novel because it has dialogue and visuals.
Right. We make new genres for genre defining games (metroidvanias). When game reviewers call Horizon Zero Dawn an RPG, I die a little bit inside. These games just have JRPG elements
Sooo many remasters....still really looking forward to the DQ 1-3 trilogy remake soon lol
this is how I feel about Danganronpa. it just fits it lol
All games are JRPGs, including PacMan, Mario Kart and Klondike Solitaire. :P
Never heard of this game before or this channel, haven’t even played Disgaea since the PSP but RUclips recommended this video and damn, this looks like exactly my type of game. Subbed, liked and gonna pick up this game when I can
So what about Witcher 3 and Kingdom Come Deliverance? Also JRPG's?
I would classify them as Western RPGs, though at least with a property like The Witcher you could make an argument otherwise
My definition of RPG is: a game where your abilities are quantified, and can be improved over the course of the game. (basically stats and leveling) If it doesn't do that, it's not an RPG. A JRPG is an RPG following the legacy of the Japanese designed RPGs from the 80s and 90s. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, SMT, Ys, Phantasy Star, etc. If it's not an RPG, it can't be a JRPG. So, I would absolutely put Symphony of the Night in the JRPG category. It's not even a question. To the Moon, however, isn't an RPG of any kind. It's more of a visual novel with extra steps. Zelda is a lot more debatable; sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. As a side note, if you're going to say that an RPG is a game where you "play a role." I very much disagree. In Call of Duty you "play the role" of a soldier. In Street Fighter you "play the role" of someone getting in frequent fistfights. In Pac man you "play the role" of a round yellow guy that wants to each a bunch of dots. By that logic roughly 99% of games would be RPGs, and the term would be utterly meaningless.
Haha yeah, I was kind of joking, like I was making a pedantic counterargument to a pedantic critique, that sort of thing.
He, no problem. I wasn't critiquing the video so much as heading off an obvious counterargument to my opinion.
Dw3 was one of my favorites, this remake.... Omg, it is amazing. I found myself wishing I picked the hardest setting
Well, if Symphony of the Night is a JRPG, then I argue that every Castlevania represented in the Advance and Dominus Collection - Circle of the Moon, Harmony of Dissonance, Portrait of Ruin, Order of Ecclesia and the Sorrow series involving Soma Cruz especially - are JRPGs for the same reasons.
I'm so glad you covered this topic, Brandon. My favorite "genre" of game is 2D platformer that is JRPG, and so SotN has been a deep favorite of mine for a long time. People that lean into MV dislike the "excess"that the game has, but this same excess has always been something I enjoyed as a JRPG fan. Over the years, I've always, always kept my eyes out for game that scratch the itch of JRPG and MV, as both have a lot in common: growth, ability-based or story-based progression, and the reality or guise of a party working together. The games that I've found best illustrate this are: Astalon, tears of the earth; Ender Lilies, quietus of the knights (and its sequel, currently out), and Monster Sanctuary. Some strong contenders are Pheonotopia: awakening; Zelda 2, a favorite of mine; and Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia, Adventure Time DS, and Elliott Quest, these las three I haven't played yet. Something I've noticed over the years is that many who are really good at JRPG's are not good at platforming, and many who are really good at action platformers do not have the patience or focus to complete JRPG's. There may be something to this,and I hope over time they make more games like Zelda 2, Astalon, and Ender Lilies; games which speak to the marriage of 2D action-platforming. (possibly strict MV's) and JRPG's, as this marriage is the genre that just speaks to me the most.
I'm glad you mentioned Ender Lilies because I've been thinking about getting that one
@@JustTheGems It's really great. As someone who enjoys both genres, it really scratches the JRPG itch of customization, as you essentially create a "party" of characters that tag along with you throughout the game, and these can be mixed, matched, and leveled up as well. I highly recommend it!
Yakuza is the only series in that video that I have first hand knowledge of and I'm with you on that. Yakuza felt like a JRPG to me from the first game on. As far as I'm concerned the type of combat doesn't change the broader genre of a game, maybe its subtype at best. I mean, if tabletop RPGs have succesfully experimented with pretty much every RPG tropes, including games without classes, xp or levels as soon as the '80s, a video game can be a RPG or a JRPG without using turn based system.
I think adding Castlevania SotN to this list is a great example of why some people split too many hairs by arguing that it can't possibly be a JRPG, but it has many elements of any other action JRPG, so I certainly think it can be classified as one. In the second Zelda game, you actually do level up. Let's take another example of a game that I would consider to be an action JRPG but most would call it a Beat 'em up: Guardian Heroes for the Saturn. As you play, you earn experience points to level up various attributes such as strength, vitality, intelligence, agility, etc. There is a story with multiple branch points too. Sounds an awful like an action JRPG to me...
Here is how I define a JRPG. Does the game have RPG elements? Yes? Good. It's an RPG. Is it made by a Japanese studio / publisher? Yes? Then it's a JRPG. If it wasn't made in Japan, then it's not a JRPG.
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I have pretty much the opposite view: I think a jrpg is defined enough to be it's own genre. If a game looks plays and feels like a jrpg, but just happens to be made outside japan (for example ara fell) its still a jrpg. Also just because a game is made in Japan and has rpg elements doesn't automatically make it a jrpg (for example soulsborne).
@@DrNiper While I don't agree with your opinion, I totally respect it. I should note however that I feel terms like JRPG and WRPG are a lot less useful then they once were when describing the experience of how a game plays thanks to cross-cultural influences (which I think is absolutely wonderful, personally) so I only use the term JRPG as a reference to its place of origin. Instead I prefer terms like action RPG, strategy RPG and turn based RPG. I would then add to that descriptor whether or not its story driven or bameplay driven.
@ I would somewhat agree with your point on cultural influences. Though games still usually lean towards one or the other in their overall "package" of influences, leading to the game feeling more like one of them. I also think that action-, strategy- etc. definers are good, but I'd add that a game can be an action JRPG (YS series for example), or action RPG (I drop the W on that. Example would be Soulsbourne, or to use a different one The Witcher series) Story driven vs gameplay driven descriptor is interesting, because I'd say that's one of the cornerstones of JRPG's. They have usually been more story and character focused.
0 days since you've mentioned Harvestella?? I'm 10 hours into playing it for the first time, and those 0 days aren't enough! More people need to get into this game already 😅
Absolutely!!
I still can't see Zelda as JRPG, even though it's got RPG elements 😅 Great video though, it definitely seems like such a grey area with what does or doesn't define a JRPG, haha.
Yep yep, it's a whole lotta gray for sure, it's fun to talk about it
Virtual Trading Card Games can be argued to be JRPGs as well. I'll take Yugioh GX Tag Force as an example; You kind of do level up. You start with very basic deck, but by beating duelists you get money which you improve your deck; that's your level up system. Tag Force 1 also takes another aspect: affinity. In order to participate the tourtament you have to get a partner until the end of the semester, which you do so by talking to them, giving them gifts, and dueling them like Persona for example.
Leaving 13 Sentinels off when I know you've included before feels like very specific trolling, but I feel like it's just granted status based on look and feel even though it's a VN with a tower defense component.
Yeah, it's still "debatable" but I consider the debate basically decided.