Tattoo artists should not filter their photos. It promotes unrealistic expectations of what tattoos actually look like, especially for people who know very little about tattoos.
The only exception I would say is if the photo was taken in poor lighting/etc, and you tweak the colors to be truer to life. Even art portfolio pics taken with great lighting and good cameras can look a little bit off, so minor edits can make it look more like the actual piece
Unpopular opinion: not all of your tattoos need to have a meaning. If you want your tattoos to have a meaning cool, if you want a giraffe get a giraffe tattooed! Nobody gives a shit!
I actually think it’s safer to NOT have meaning haha. Because that meaning CAN change, but I’m pretty sure that I will always think Octopus’s (octopi?) look cool.
I got my first tatoo last week. The experience was great, the drawing is awesome, the artist was nice and all. Some friends and coworkers asked me who did it. And I was glad to tell them cause everything went well. So she's so on point about the atitude and reputation as bussiness plan.
Fr I don't care if your work is the best in the world, if you're an ass and ignore my concerns, make me feel unsafe, or belittle me I may not even get the piece finished and I certainly won't go back.
@@davidbuckler3439 That doesn't count! I mean no matter how skilled the artist, how technically perfect the tattoo, photo realism portraits are fucking creepy.
Sara nailed it at 5:45. I’ve gotten my entire left sleeve done by the same artist because of how good his work is, and how good he treated me as a client.
exactly. I had the same thing with piercings. I kept going back to the same artist because she gives good advice. If she thinks the anatomy is wrong, or the piercings are to crowded she recomends something different. I prefer that over a different artist, who messed up my piercings because she didnt communicate, and just put a random barbell of the wrong size in my ear in a spot that wasnt right with my anatomy.
I love it when we see examples of an artist's work and the healed version. Because no matter how good a fresh tattoo looks, if it looks like shit in a year I'm probably not going to get that style or go to that artist.
It's funny how somebody gets to be judge that's a one dimensional artist.... oh hey, that's how tattoo scene works. At least 80% of convention judges are dogs.
After hearing Sara Fable in this video she just made me like her even more and I didn't think that was really possible. I just love this girl's style and the level of intelligence I hear from her every time I see her speak.
Unpopular opinion: Not enough artists have portfolios displaying work on an array of skin tones. If you don't have any visual of work on skin like mine, I won't go to you. Lol
That’s so valid and artists should expect that, tattoos can look different on different skin tones and you as a client have the right to know what to expect as the end result, you’re not an experiment and you don’t deserve to be treated as one.
@@MinimiMax they're saying if the artist doesn't show that they can handle melanin then they'll move to someone who can, it's a perfectly fair sentiment
If an artist lives somewhere like Japan hes most likely only going to be tattooing Japanese people. Its about geography and demographics not racism. If basic geography is a deal breaker to you then good riddance, 'Lol'.
See: that season of Inkmaster where they prejudiced a contestant for not having tattoos and he was absolutely right when he said "for ppl who claim to be against judging ppl for having tattoos, they sure are judging me over having tattoos"
I totally disagree with the guy that said tattoos dont say anything about who you are. They absolutely do because they're a part of you and are usually a physical representation of some facet of yourself. After all they're self expression.
He meant who you are like "what your character is" because I thought the same but if you go back to the clip he ends with sayings it's self expression. So he must have meant people who view tattoos to mean more than a method of self expression and is somehow a way to guess the quality of your character (in a negative way).
I would have a beer with any of these artists. Poch and Pony (sounds like a band lol) have a wonderful friendship- it's so obvious they are fond of and respect each other. Both are tremendous artists too, especially Poch.
My unpopular opinion is ALL tattoos have meaning, but not all have emotional backstories. Good on that one guy shutting down the argument that micro portraits won't last.
Meh, being really picky is how you end up never getting tattooed. Honestly ink master just makes people that don’t tattoo think they know everything about tattoos, and tattooing, spoiler alert: they don’t have a fucking clue, shits hard af and there’s an absolute fuckton of stuff to learn
@@EX7RUD1CON I'm getting tattooed in a few months and I agree that some people might think they know everyrhing when they don't but for the most part i think Ink Master just helps people see how bad a piece of art can be messed up so they get picky choosing the right artist and so on, if that makes sense :)
Unpopular opinion: if you're getting polynesian tribal, go to someone who knows what they're doing & create your own! Can't tell you how many times I see people who just get it cause it "looks cool" & they don't know the meaning & background of it or they copy & paste someone else's tribal.. Example, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, I see so many people get his tribal on them & I get that he's inspirational & a hero to alot of people, but each pattern & part is detailed to him, his family, ancestors & his life story. You're basically wearing someone else's story on you.. Best advice/tip: do research on artists who do polynesian tribal & have an understanding of what it is, then talk & create a piece thats tailored to you. At the end its gonna look bad ass & every part represents something to you & you only.
Is it culturally appropriate to get one of these at all if you are not a native yourself? I once heard that but I don't know if that is also the opinion of most Polynesians.
@@RK-ci1yi I mean yes In a way, there are certain patterns & areas that are supposed to be for royalty or warriors only. But its like the head dress of native Americans.. Its something sacred & meaningful to the natives but you'll see everyone at Coachella or on tv wearing one cause its cool or a trend & they don't see it as how the natives view it.. As a native Hawaiian, my view on it is that anyone can get it cause i feel proud & happy that people from around the world appreciate the polynesian culture to the point where they want to get a tatau on them. Also, I can't stop them from getting one ofcourse lol. However, my advice would be to take the time to do your research & find the right artist for you. Polynesian tribal is all about meaning & connection. Everything has a story & purpose. Also you'll get so much more respect with the polynesian people. Most importantly, you'll be so proud of wearing it & you can definitely feel the power & spirit of it.
@@RK-ci1yi it is that's why they invented kiratui it's the white people approved style of Polynesian that mimics the shapes and the art without any of the meaning
A tattoo artist shouldn't get so offended (or angry) that you want to make some changes to their design. Sure, is their art, I get that, but also it is my body and I'll be the one carrying that tattoo for the rest of my life. Sorry I didn't like one or two things about the design
This. 100% this. I have a few small tattoos which are special to me. I had to defend my choice to one artist who tried to make me agree to something bigger & more elaborate which he had in his portfolio. I respect his work & skill, but I absolutely would not have him try to dictate the artwork which will be *on my body* for the rest of my life.
If you tattoo artist get angry at you for wanting to change something you have a shitty tattoo artist lol. Would get anything done with someone like that
Yeah like how they always complain about people wanting to add names into things. Just because they don't think it'll look as nice in the picture for their portfolio.
Ya I agree with you but the only thing that I would add is to have good communication with your artist...like don’t just be radio silence until the actual day and then decide that you don’t like the final design
@@srijanabasu483 the thing with this sometimes is this trend I've been seeing lately where we'll make the appointment like a month in advance and they're like "well show you the design the day of the tattoo". Idk if you've had this happen to you but it's so annoying. It really makes the whole process take so much longer. Like, I've been anticipating all month this design, and I end up wanting to make all these changes so now I'm in this weird situation where I'm not trying to be an asshole and take up all this extra time redesigning the piece, but I also want it to look perfect. It can be a really uncomfortable situation
My unpopular opinion: your tattoos don’t HAVE to have a meaning so if you get one just because you like it and it doesn’t really mean anything, that should be as respected as something with meaning about your past or anything like that
Man you have no idea how many times I've been asked about the "meaning" behind my Monster Hunter sleeve/chest piece. Bruh, fire-breathing manticores and dragons are cool and I needed to cover some scars up, leave me alone. Bonus points if I actually tell you that and the person goes BUT WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT. Fuck off, I don't have a better explanation than "manticores and dragons are cool".
My second favorite tattoo is undeniably my worst. As long as there's a story behind it and you're not filled with regret over getting duped thinking you'd get a good tattoo.
unpopular opinion: you don’t need to “earn” your tattoo by going thru the pain... you earn your tattoo by paying for it and if it’s badass in the end who cares if i used numbing cream, it’s gonna look badass now and later so going thru the pain doesn’t mean anything.
I've never heard of girls getting mocked for using numbing creams for tattoos... dudes, on the other hand, since body modifications have a "rite of passage" stigma attached to it... it's complicated. Also, when people discuss what areas hurt the most, and your female friend who used a tube of lidocaine before her session and then bragged about her ribs tattoos being a piece of cake, it can also be awkward. It's still a taboo subject, people are much less afraid of talking about numbing the pain while getting implants for example. When it's "just" for a tattoo, "dude, man up, it doesn't hurt that bad".
Personally, I've been told by my artist that numbing creams/sprays can have a negative effect on tattoos and not make them hold as well. At the end of the day, if numbing cream works for you and your artist is cool with it, use it. I'd say I'm still 50/50. My smaller pieces I've just dealt with the pain which I dont think is unreasonable but sitting for a 8 hour session, pass the spray 😱
@@wigglebiggle1811 8 hours wasn’t fun, that shit hurts. Full on made me take a break from getting more tattoos for about a year lol had to re evaluate my life
I personally feel that if you can't at least handle the first half of a long session maybe you shouldn't be getting larger tattoos. It's part of the commitment, part of what drills the importance of this decision into your head. The "badass" image part is why it requires a small sacrifice on your end, in a sense. If you wanna look tough, you gotta be tough. The pain DEFINITELY means something to those who've endured it.
unpopular opinion: The hazing part of an apprenticeship is unnecessary and a crappy thing to do as a mentor. There's a difference between being tough on an apprentice for a specific reason, and being an asshole. Have intention behind your actions to push them to become a better tattooer. And you gotta give some positive feedback sometimes too. Tell them what they need to work on, but recognize what they are still doing well in too. I have seen quite a few super talented artists who have left a studio or completely stopped tattooing altogether. Just because they didn't want to be treated like shit constantly.
Sara is absolutely right- I got a tiny little hand stuck tattoo at a convention and the artist was so amazing and kind that every time she’s in town I go and get a piece from her. Shes won me as a client for life because of a small tattoo I got at a convention that healed amazingly and still looks incredible.
Sara Fabel has quickly become my favourite artist in these videos, she’s so open and honest about her work and the industry. Id kill to get a tattoo from her.
Not liking micro tattoos isn't really an unpopular opinion in the tattoo community. People can be very rude to people who have/like micro tattoos. Pretty sure those people are have a more traditional mentality about tattoos.
The Sara fabel girl brought up a good point though that is overlooked, and that's the dishonesty about how they'll age. We KNOW how tattoos age, and have for so long. These DO NOT age as well, and not being honest about that because it's a wave to ride and you're good at it is wrong.
Yeah I don’t nessacerily like how almost elitist some comments can get about them. Both micro tattoos and some watercolor pieces probably wont last, but that doesn’t mean there arent people who are willing to, for the sake of art, have a piece that they know is temperary. As long as the client is informed on the subject and can make that call, then there is no issue with them. That being said there are people who just don’t inform the people getting these tattoos, and that is obviously very wrong.
Unpopular oppinion: Tattoos do not have to last forever. You can get a watercolor or a micro tattoo if you want to even if it will fade. You are allowed to want something that is temporary. When it fades you can always cover it with something els. Just as long as you know what you are doing and are prepared for it.
I don’t really care for watercolor or trash polka either but who knows 10 years from now. I hated the cartoony crap when i started getting tattoos and now I have a full Disney sleeve. 🤷♀️
I like what the guy said about not having to do every style. If you have one preferred style to focus on that. At the same time though when you are an apprentice you have to do what walks through the door
Good points. I think it's true now that there are so many options to choose for where to go for a tattoo, it's not as necessary to be a jack of all trades. But I can imagine that someone who is just starting out and getting their name up won't have the luxury to be selective of what styles they do.
The focusing on marketing and branding is something a lot more tattoo shops and artist need to work on. I’m currently looking to get a tattoo and it’s hard to find a good tattoo artist in my area without going and talking to each one (which I have anxiety so that’s hard) there’s one shop in my area where their website is literally just their Instagram page, so I can’t figure anything out other then what tattoos come from their shop, but I don’t know which artist made them or anything like that, so I have no idea if I walk in if I would get a good tattoo or not of if I would even be comfortable with them tattooing me or not. I also kind of wish tattoo artist had some sort of range of prices based on art style, placement, difficulty, length, etc, because I know I don’t have the most amount of money in the world, and I’ve heard a wide range of prices just for the spot I want to get so I have to get my anxiety filled ass to the shop I’m looking at to try and get my questions answered since none of them have a way to contact them just so I can make sure I wont go broke getting a tattoo
Sara Fabel really has the right idea at 5:20! If she would live in the Netherlands I would definetely want a tattoo from her. Great style and artistry in her work.
Mmmm Unpopular Opinion here!🙋🏻♀️I didn’t see anyone have it but I believe that you do NOT have to be covered in tattoos(or have any tbh) in order to be a great tattoo artist. It’s like saying a plastic surgeon can’t be a great surgeon b/c he doesn’t have breast implants or any work done in general🤷🏻♀️
I used to watch ink master and I remeber they actually severlly criticized and ultimately eliminated a guy because he didn't have any visible tattoos and everybody judged him for it. It's really criticized for some reason if you're a tattoo artist that doesn't. I totally agree with you!
@@stepha_F Fair enough, i think a lot of tattooists feel you learn from getting tattooed yourself. So by not having tattoos thats a big source of information you will be lacking.
I find it curious that some of them are saying tattoos without line work or black will hold up just as long as a strong black work tattoo. I have plenty of female friends who went to a reputable known artist for color work who is fairly famous and their work looks like 25% the quality it did when they got it just 2-3 years later where as their other work with black line work looks like 90%. But I guess that’s anecdotal. Though maybe it was just the color pallet they chose? Or the artist isn’t as skilled but rather just popular or well known in the tattoo community.
Atleast she is really transparent about her pricing. Nothing worse than someone who won't tell you their rates. You know what you are getting into with her.
So let's say you need two days to complete your piece. At her day rate of $2250 that would be $4500. Now let's say that you are 30 years old and expect to live to be 90. So your yearly cost breaks down to $75 (4500/60=75). Your daily cost would be $0.2054 (75/365=0.254). So twenty cents a day really isn't that expensive for a piece of art you will have for a lifetime.
Tattoo artist should 100% have great bedside manners and know what client they’re getting for the day and be personable. I had a consultation for a memorial piece and he didn’t seem really involved or cared much. I told myself people have off days too. Yesterday I went in for the tattoo and he shook my hand like he’d never met me and said “I haven’t had time to look at your reference pictures. What are you getting?” It just made me feel like he didn’t care who he tattooed but just wanted my money. It kind of ruined the moment I needed to reflect on the piece and honor my passed loved one
Sara fable is super right on. Went to a local artist for my first tattoos, went back for the most recent and got my first scary AND first color tattoo. I don’t like his style but I trust him to put my ideas on my body
I love Sara, her work is incredible but more importantly I know I would enjoy her company and have a good time if she was tattooing me. I think tattoo artists sometimes forget that you're still providing a service to someone and as long as the customee aren't being shit to you, you should be trying to be friendly and make them as comfortable as possible.
I agree Sara, while I admit it was hard at the start to admit what works and won't work on the long run you have to move your ego aside and be honest if you want to play the long game. And the guy in the behemoth tee talking about apprenticeships and specific style: 100% I went into my apprenticeship having a niche/specific style, my mentor saw that and I barely touched colour or other styles and immediately played to that strength, now I have a high return clientele that knows what to expect and we're both satisfied with the outcome because its in my wheelhouse and the style they want.
About “niche” styles etc. (I am a designer and couldn’t agree/be happier that you had the experience that you did and it allowed you to become even more specifically in depth into your personal artistic expertise and skill 💕💕). I always think of it like the idea that if you are particularly artistically interested (like Monet for very simple example in painting, and specifically almost universally recognizable for Impressionism) then it absolutely makes NO SENSE whatsoever to put you (and the client too lol) through the torturous excruciating apprehensive experience of being forced to practice an expertise that is completely different and not at all reflective of what YOU in particular are really GREAT/EXPERT/SPECIALIST in because why not have that person seek out *the* artist that *is that person* for what they want? Like commissioning an impressionist painter to sculpt a post-modern abstract iron sculptural piece for someone’s ultra modern minimalist office space IS NOT EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS but good luck I tell you on how that turns out…… ?????!!!! Lol. Look, I’m not going to try to advise someone to consider a Balenciaga all black leather and silver metal chained etc conceptual runway design for their wedding dress if they are looking to be an ethereal, light softly silk tulle cloud like Marchesa (or Vera Wang lol etc) instantly recognizable traditional image of literal bridal perfection on their wedding day, it’s as simple as that 🤷🏻♀️🧵🪡💟
I'm pretty sure my opinion on this is in the minority amongst people interested in tattoos (whether they have them or not), but perhaps not necessarily among the general population: I'm not interested in large pieces or sleeves because if you have to look too hard to make out what you're seeing and it's not on someone whose body you have any reason to take long hard looks at, all you're going to see is that there is a large amount of tattooed space. Can't make out the wood for the trees, or even the individual trees. I understand that the point of them is to benefit the one person who matters - i.e. the person whose body they're on, but if we're to talk about enjoying and celebrating each other's tattoos, I'd much rather see individual tattoos surrounded by plenty of empty space so you can see clearly what each tattoo is and take it all in at once without staring long and hard, whether or not the person in question has invited you to stare.
Unpopular opinion : your tattoos don't have to have meaning through time. I got a tattoo when I was 18 that meant a lot to me. My life has changed so much that the meaning of it don't mean anything now. I see so much people worrying about what if it loose meaning ? Mine did but I'm still the same person, I still like it even if it doesn't mean anything and it's just a random thing on my arm now so it doesn't really matter
Sara Fabel is exactly how I'd want anyone who works on me to be. The reason I go to the piercing shop I do (and even will let an apprentice work on me) is because the culture there is of kind honesty. It's next to a college campus, and I think it's great they don't take advantage of young adults. Instead they build expectations for how they should be treated by people doing work on them!
Go to a nursing home and look at tattoos. You will learn a lot. I worked in nursing homes for over 20 years. The most humorous one I ever saw was right above a man's pubic hair line in a banner he had tattooed "danger low swinging boom"
we shouldn't call tattoos of subject matter that we don't like or a style that we wouldn't get that's drawn and applied well a "bad" tattoo. just because you wouldn't personally wear it doesn't mean it's bad. i personally would never get a new school tattoo, but when one is done well it's still a good tattoo. see kelly doty, thom bulman, etc. (also please keep pony and poch together for the next season of videos, they're hysterical)
I was skeptical of the new wireless machines but now have multiple tats by a dude that only uses wireless and love that it made doing my hand easier for him.
no expert, but i feel mainly that all tattoo lines will thicken with time. so if you got a small tattoo with small details in time the lines will thicken and you lose the detail making it look whack and hard to read
simple and with enough space to let the skin breathe and show contrast, and lots of black. Using skin breaks in place of jamming in shading everywhere with fine deatil. For example Ponys Edward Scissorhands there uses a lot of deep packed black, and gentle shading to get his look, vs trying to texture every single hair on his head and make his skin look real, eyes wet etc. Technical application, so not blowing out lines, knowing how deep to go etc, used with smart design. If ink has room to breathe itll last, if its all jammed together and starts to bleed out/fade over time, it'll blur together
What’s your unpopular tattoo opinion?
Tribal and wolf tattoos are fuckin siiiiick
@@HXXIIA Hahaha. I am the defender of '90s tribal here at Inked. I fuckin love it.
Roses thrown into tattoos randomly makes them look like shit
i think big tattoos of a single thing look shit eg a big wolf on your back
I don’t love realism or American classic. No reason why, they just really bug me.
Tattoo artists should not filter their photos. It promotes unrealistic expectations of what tattoos actually look like, especially for people who know very little about tattoos.
Word
The only exception I would say is if the photo was taken in poor lighting/etc, and you tweak the colors to be truer to life. Even art portfolio pics taken with great lighting and good cameras can look a little bit off, so minor edits can make it look more like the actual piece
But what if the picture doesn’t look close to what the actual tattoo looks like in person.
THANK YOU! Or at least, have the real photo after the filtered one. That’s fine if you want an ig theme, but show the real one too.
@@TwoBs Even a B&W filter usually adds contrast.
Unpopular opinion: not all of your tattoos need to have a meaning. If you want your tattoos to have a meaning cool, if you want a giraffe get a giraffe tattooed! Nobody gives a shit!
I actually think it’s safer to NOT have meaning haha. Because that meaning CAN change, but I’m pretty sure that I will always think Octopus’s (octopi?) look cool.
I think this is becoming a lot more popular as an opinion.
@@eliquate I prefer Octopussies XD
@@kellybahnemann8092 AYOOOO!!!
@@eliquate I 100% agree
Sarafabel is absolutely correct.
As always
I feel like it’s also just great job advice in general. That woman is amazing.
I got my first tatoo last week. The experience was great, the drawing is awesome, the artist was nice and all.
Some friends and coworkers asked me who did it. And I was glad to tell them cause everything went well.
So she's so on point about the atitude and reputation as bussiness plan.
Fr I don't care if your work is the best in the world, if you're an ass and ignore my concerns, make me feel unsafe, or belittle me I may not even get the piece finished and I certainly won't go back.
@@emilyporter1186 Same
My unpopular opinion: Photorealism portraits are creepy.
Sometimes, depends on the artist 😂😂 some can’t do faces and then it looks like Freddy Kruger
Agree
@@davidbuckler3439 That doesn't count! I mean no matter how skilled the artist, how technically perfect the tattoo, photo realism portraits are fucking creepy.
@@Ostkupa I respectfully disagree because I’ve seen some badass looking photo realism portraits. Have you seen London balls new sleeve?
@@Ostkupa lonzo*
Sara nailed it at 5:45. I’ve gotten my entire
left sleeve done by the same artist because of how good his work is, and how good he treated me as a client.
Me too!
Same
Same!
exactly. I had the same thing with piercings. I kept going back to the same artist because she gives good advice. If she thinks the anatomy is wrong, or the piercings are to crowded she recomends something different. I prefer that over a different artist, who messed up my piercings because she didnt communicate, and just put a random barbell of the wrong size in my ear in a spot that wasnt right with my anatomy.
Same, had two sleeves from the same fella and will only get work done by him most likely 👍
I love it when we see examples of an artist's work and the healed version. Because no matter how good a fresh tattoo looks, if it looks like shit in a year I'm probably not going to get that style or go to that artist.
I like how every season has an edgy guy with a cute dog. This is a good trend.
This is a very popular opinion.
I know. It's crazy how pony and pooch are in every season
That dog immediately made me go “Awwwww!”
This is Straight Outta Compton- cute and cuddly puppies 🐶
Better than a cute guy with an edgy dog
Sara is just the best, who doesn't love her, she is awesome
I love how she says "tattoo artist"
Literally shes over here spitting advice that you can apply to a lot of other industries
Pøller?
i could listen to her speak all day
Pony and Poch never get through a video without making me laugh
Or each other!
Yeah same HAHAHA
“Bold will hold” is Chris Nuñez in a nutshell
He loves him a sticker.
@@Neenerella333 and some good solid blacks
Lol
I can’t stand the judges
It's funny how somebody gets to be judge that's a one dimensional artist.... oh hey, that's how tattoo scene works. At least 80% of convention judges are dogs.
"why are you so positive?"
"🥰💞i don't know 💖🌹✨"
She's so 💖✨😍
😍😍😍
After hearing Sara Fable in this video she just made me like her even more and I didn't think that was really possible. I just love this girl's style and the level of intelligence I hear from her every time I see her speak.
Unpopular opinion: Not enough artists have portfolios displaying work on an array of skin tones.
If you don't have any visual of work on skin like mine, I won't go to you. Lol
That’s so valid and artists should expect that, tattoos can look different on different skin tones and you as a client have the right to know what to expect as the end result, you’re not an experiment and you don’t deserve to be treated as one.
Fair point but what are they supposed to do? If their clients don't include people with your skin tone, how are they going to showcase it?
@@MinimiMax they're saying if the artist doesn't show that they can handle melanin then they'll move to someone who can, it's a perfectly fair sentiment
I’m not sure it’s an unpopular opinion. Seems like comon sense.
If an artist lives somewhere like Japan hes most likely only going to be tattooing Japanese people. Its about geography and demographics not racism. If basic geography is a deal breaker to you then good riddance, 'Lol'.
People can love tattoos without actually having any.
See: that season of Inkmaster where they prejudiced a contestant for not having tattoos and he was absolutely right when he said "for ppl who claim to be against judging ppl for having tattoos, they sure are judging me over having tattoos"
@@emimonsterlicious which season?
Very true. I have tattoos, but I have a lot of friends who have none and they all appreciate the artwork and dedication.
@@rileysheffield7653 Season 2: Jamie Davies
@@amanda5nicole thanks!
Yo everytime Pooch laughs I die of laughter myself🤣🤣🤣🤣
His laugh is infectious 🤣🤣
@@inked Facts!!
Truth HAHAHA
I totally disagree with the guy that said tattoos dont say anything about who you are. They absolutely do because they're a part of you and are usually a physical representation of some facet of yourself. After all they're self expression.
I think he meant it in the way of, tattoos don't make you a criminal, they don't make you a bad person and shouldn't stop you from getting jobs etc
He meant who you are like "what your character is" because I thought the same but if you go back to the clip he ends with sayings it's self expression. So he must have meant people who view tattoos to mean more than a method of self expression and is somehow a way to guess the quality of your character (in a negative way).
I would have a beer with any of these artists. Poch and Pony (sounds like a band lol) have a wonderful friendship- it's so obvious they are fond of and respect each other. Both are tremendous artists too, especially Poch.
What up greta!?
@@TheChanelcupcake Hi there :)
Buddy caper movie?
My unpopular opinion is ALL tattoos have meaning, but not all have emotional backstories.
Good on that one guy shutting down the argument that micro portraits won't last.
I'm getting a goose hydra tattoo soon, literally just a goose with several heads 😂 I like geese and I like mythology so I just mushed it together
After watching Ink Master and Inked videos I've been getting hella picky about tattoos 😂
Same 😂
Good
Meh, being really picky is how you end up never getting tattooed. Honestly ink master just makes people that don’t tattoo think they know everything about tattoos, and tattooing, spoiler alert: they don’t have a fucking clue, shits hard af and there’s an absolute fuckton of stuff to learn
@@EX7RUD1CON I'm getting tattooed in a few months and I agree that some people might think they know everyrhing when they don't but for the most part i think Ink Master just helps people see how bad a piece of art can be messed up so they get picky choosing the right artist and so on, if that makes sense :)
Nothing wrong with being picky. I’d rather wait a long time to get a tattoo than rush it and get one that I end up hating
Pony and Poch need their own reality show!
Unpopular opinion: if you're getting polynesian tribal, go to someone who knows what they're doing & create your own! Can't tell you how many times I see people who just get it cause it "looks cool" & they don't know the meaning & background of it or they copy & paste someone else's tribal..
Example, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, I see so many people get his tribal on them & I get that he's inspirational & a hero to alot of people, but each pattern & part is detailed to him, his family, ancestors & his life story. You're basically wearing someone else's story on you..
Best advice/tip: do research on artists who do polynesian tribal & have an understanding of what it is, then talk & create a piece thats tailored to you. At the end its gonna look bad ass & every part represents something to you & you only.
Is it culturally appropriate to get one of these at all if you are not a native yourself? I once heard that but I don't know if that is also the opinion of most Polynesians.
@@RK-ci1yi I mean yes In a way, there are certain patterns & areas that are supposed to be for royalty or warriors only. But its like the head dress of native Americans.. Its something sacred & meaningful to the natives but you'll see everyone at Coachella or on tv wearing one cause its cool or a trend & they don't see it as how the natives view it..
As a native Hawaiian, my view on it is that anyone can get it cause i feel proud & happy that people from around the world appreciate the polynesian culture to the point where they want to get a tatau on them. Also, I can't stop them from getting one ofcourse lol.
However, my advice would be to take the time to do your research & find the right artist for you. Polynesian tribal is all about meaning & connection. Everything has a story & purpose. Also you'll get so much more respect with the polynesian people. Most importantly, you'll be so proud of wearing it & you can definitely feel the power & spirit of it.
@@eh_trey thank you for your insight. Also great that you have such a balanced view on this topic.
@@RK-ci1yi it is that's why they invented kiratui it's the white people approved style of Polynesian that mimics the shapes and the art without any of the meaning
@@RK-ci1yi I think it’s inappropriate in that it looks lame and corny in general, but I don’t care what Polynesian people think
A tattoo artist shouldn't get so offended (or angry) that you want to make some changes to their design. Sure, is their art, I get that, but also it is my body and I'll be the one carrying that tattoo for the rest of my life. Sorry I didn't like one or two things about the design
This. 100% this.
I have a few small tattoos which are special to me. I had to defend my choice to one artist who tried to make me agree to something bigger & more elaborate which he had in his portfolio.
I respect his work & skill, but I absolutely would not have him try to dictate the artwork which will be *on my body* for the rest of my life.
If you tattoo artist get angry at you for wanting to change something you have a shitty tattoo artist lol. Would get anything done with someone like that
Yeah like how they always complain about people wanting to add names into things. Just because they don't think it'll look as nice in the picture for their portfolio.
Ya I agree with you but the only thing that I would add is to have good communication with your artist...like don’t just be radio silence until the actual day and then decide that you don’t like the final design
@@srijanabasu483 the thing with this sometimes is this trend I've been seeing lately where we'll make the appointment like a month in advance and they're like "well show you the design the day of the tattoo". Idk if you've had this happen to you but it's so annoying. It really makes the whole process take so much longer. Like, I've been anticipating all month this design, and I end up wanting to make all these changes so now I'm in this weird situation where I'm not trying to be an asshole and take up all this extra time redesigning the piece, but I also want it to look perfect. It can be a really uncomfortable situation
Honestly it was nice to see an example of a good artist doing a micro tattoo and how it held up. Amazing work from pony!!
Same, I was blown away.
My unpopular opinion: your tattoos don’t HAVE to have a meaning so if you get one just because you like it and it doesn’t really mean anything, that should be as respected as something with meaning about your past or anything like that
You might be on to something... 🤔
@@inked oh I’m already all tatted up 😂 a little too late
Yes!
I think this is actually a popular opinion. I've heard it a lot!
Man you have no idea how many times I've been asked about the "meaning" behind my Monster Hunter sleeve/chest piece. Bruh, fire-breathing manticores and dragons are cool and I needed to cover some scars up, leave me alone. Bonus points if I actually tell you that and the person goes BUT WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT. Fuck off, I don't have a better explanation than "manticores and dragons are cool".
Mine: scratchy bangers have a time and place. Shitty tattoos can also be great. But I also think a master piece is always going to win out
My second favorite tattoo is undeniably my worst. As long as there's a story behind it and you're not filled with regret over getting duped thinking you'd get a good tattoo.
I have 8 tattoos and my favorite one is a stick n poke I did on myself
Shoot mine is back piece I got in Germany drunk off my butt. Don't remember getting it but had a hell of a night I do somewhat remember
unpopular opinion: you don’t need to “earn” your tattoo by going thru the pain... you earn your tattoo by paying for it and if it’s badass in the end who cares if i used numbing cream, it’s gonna look badass now and later so going thru the pain doesn’t mean anything.
I've never heard of girls getting mocked for using numbing creams for tattoos... dudes, on the other hand, since body modifications have a "rite of passage" stigma attached to it...
it's complicated.
Also, when people discuss what areas hurt the most, and your female friend who used a tube of lidocaine before her session and then bragged about her ribs tattoos being a piece of cake, it can also be awkward.
It's still a taboo subject, people are much less afraid of talking about numbing the pain while getting implants for example.
When it's "just" for a tattoo, "dude, man up, it doesn't hurt that bad".
Personally, I've been told by my artist that numbing creams/sprays can have a negative effect on tattoos and not make them hold as well. At the end of the day, if numbing cream works for you and your artist is cool with it, use it. I'd say I'm still 50/50. My smaller pieces I've just dealt with the pain which I dont think is unreasonable but sitting for a 8 hour session, pass the spray 😱
@@wigglebiggle1811 8 hours wasn’t fun, that shit hurts. Full on made me take a break from getting more tattoos for about a year lol had to re evaluate my life
@@wigglebiggle1811 What my artist does is she does the lines first, then numbs to do the color/shading and I have yet to have any adverse fading!
I personally feel that if you can't at least handle the first half of a long session maybe you shouldn't be getting larger tattoos. It's part of the commitment, part of what drills the importance of this decision into your head. The "badass" image part is why it requires a small sacrifice on your end, in a sense. If you wanna look tough, you gotta be tough. The pain DEFINITELY means something to those who've endured it.
Love being able to see the authenticity in these talented artists.. 💯
unpopular opinion: The hazing part of an apprenticeship is unnecessary and a crappy thing to do as a mentor. There's a difference between being tough on an apprentice for a specific reason, and being an asshole. Have intention behind your actions to push them to become a better tattooer. And you gotta give some positive feedback sometimes too. Tell them what they need to work on, but recognize what they are still doing well in too. I have seen quite a few super talented artists who have left a studio or completely stopped tattooing altogether. Just because they didn't want to be treated like shit constantly.
Sara is absolutely right- I got a tiny little hand stuck tattoo at a convention and the artist was so amazing and kind that every time she’s in town I go and get a piece from her. Shes won me as a client for life because of a small tattoo I got at a convention that healed amazingly and still looks incredible.
Sara Fabel has quickly become my favourite artist in these videos, she’s so open and honest about her work and the industry. Id kill to get a tattoo from her.
"You don't need bold will hold" *Chris Nunez starts turning into the hulk*
Not liking micro tattoos isn't really an unpopular opinion in the tattoo community. People can be very rude to people who have/like micro tattoos. Pretty sure those people are have a more traditional mentality about tattoos.
The Sara fabel girl brought up a good point though that is overlooked, and that's the dishonesty about how they'll age. We KNOW how tattoos age, and have for so long. These DO NOT age as well, and not being honest about that because it's a wave to ride and you're good at it is wrong.
Yeah I don’t nessacerily like how almost elitist some comments can get about them. Both micro tattoos and some watercolor pieces probably wont last, but that doesn’t mean there arent people who are willing to, for the sake of art, have a piece that they know is temperary. As long as the client is informed on the subject and can make that call, then there is no issue with them.
That being said there are people who just don’t inform the people getting these tattoos, and that is obviously very wrong.
Unpopular oppinion: Tattoos do not have to last forever. You can get a watercolor or a micro tattoo if you want to even if it will fade. You are allowed to want something that is temporary. When it fades you can always cover it with something els. Just as long as you know what you are doing and are prepared for it.
I don’t really care for watercolor or trash polka either but who knows 10 years from now. I hated the cartoony crap when i started getting tattoos and now I have a full Disney sleeve. 🤷♀️
watercolor is awesome
Pony’s micro tattoos are amazzzing!
sara fabel is hands down one of the most down to earth people that have been on this show. shes so amazing!
Live for Pony and Poch ❤️
I like what the guy said about not having to do every style. If you have one preferred style to focus on that. At the same time though when you are an apprentice you have to do what walks through the door
Good points. I think it's true now that there are so many options to choose for where to go for a tattoo, it's not as necessary to be a jack of all trades. But I can imagine that someone who is just starting out and getting their name up won't have the luxury to be selective of what styles they do.
The guy with the dog is the most pure artist in there. Love him sm
Please give Pony and Pooch their own series! They're so cute!
Unpopular opinion: Your friend who bought a tattoo machine and is now tattooing people isn't a tattoo artist. They're just reckless🤺
not an opinion, this is a FACT
Funny thing is that's how most of these guys say they started. Several of them even said they made their own machines lol
That's not unpopular
IDC my homie does kool tatz
Okay triscuit... Your Trust Fund is showing. Our friends PIONEERED Black & Grey tattooing inside INSTITUTIONS.
The focusing on marketing and branding is something a lot more tattoo shops and artist need to work on. I’m currently looking to get a tattoo and it’s hard to find a good tattoo artist in my area without going and talking to each one (which I have anxiety so that’s hard) there’s one shop in my area where their website is literally just their Instagram page, so I can’t figure anything out other then what tattoos come from their shop, but I don’t know which artist made them or anything like that, so I have no idea if I walk in if I would get a good tattoo or not of if I would even be comfortable with them tattooing me or not.
I also kind of wish tattoo artist had some sort of range of prices based on art style, placement, difficulty, length, etc, because I know I don’t have the most amount of money in the world, and I’ve heard a wide range of prices just for the spot I want to get so I have to get my anxiety filled ass to the shop I’m looking at to try and get my questions answered since none of them have a way to contact them just so I can make sure I wont go broke getting a tattoo
Finally someone speaks up about micro tattoos 🙌🙌
I love Pony and Poch together. They crack me up every video!
Sara Fabel really has the right idea at 5:20! If she would live in the Netherlands I would definetely want a tattoo from her. Great style and artistry in her work.
Inked: gimme your unpopular opinions
Tattoo artist: gives popular opinions
Blackouts are awesome. It's not just for coverups, I find them aesthetically pleasing.
The last one was so sweet😁
Mmmm Unpopular Opinion here!🙋🏻♀️I didn’t see anyone have it but I believe that you do NOT have to be covered in tattoos(or have any tbh) in order to be a great tattoo artist. It’s like saying a plastic surgeon can’t be a great surgeon b/c he doesn’t have breast implants or any work done in general🤷🏻♀️
I used to watch ink master and I remeber they actually severlly criticized and ultimately eliminated a guy because he didn't have any visible tattoos and everybody judged him for it. It's really criticized for some reason if you're a tattoo artist that doesn't. I totally agree with you!
@@9melissal Would you go to a barber or hairdressers who never had a haircut?
@@tunein6765 If they were licensed & had good reviews from other ppl, yes, yes I would
@@9melissal Yes I remember that too!
@@stepha_F Fair enough, i think a lot of tattooists feel you learn from getting tattooed yourself. So by not having tattoos thats a big source of information you will be lacking.
When someone tells you a about a tattoo they want to get and when they show you it’s a picture of a someone else’s tattoo they found on the internet
I love Pony and Pooch! It’s really obvious that they’re great friends
The great thing about tattoos is that they are all personal and at the end of the day it's most important to the individual
Pony and Poch sounds like a good podcast name. HAHAHA
So many of these opinions go against ink master 🤣🤣
I just keep rewatching that beginning part with Pony singing, it's so funny :DD
I find it curious that some of them are saying tattoos without line work or black will hold up just as long as a strong black work tattoo. I have plenty of female friends who went to a reputable known artist for color work who is fairly famous and their work looks like 25% the quality it did when they got it just 2-3 years later where as their other work with black line work looks like 90%. But I guess that’s anecdotal. Though maybe it was just the color pallet they chose? Or the artist isn’t as skilled but rather just popular or well known in the tattoo community.
4:52 Sara Fable TRUTH (but she's still expensive AF).
Atleast she is really transparent about her pricing. Nothing worse than someone who won't tell you their rates. You know what you are getting into with her.
She's super upfront about her pricing and she seems to mainly do larger pieces
So let's say you need two days to complete your piece.
At her day rate of $2250 that would be $4500.
Now let's say that you are 30 years old and expect to live to be 90.
So your yearly cost breaks down to $75 (4500/60=75).
Your daily cost would be $0.2054 (75/365=0.254).
So twenty cents a day really isn't that expensive for a piece of art you will have for a lifetime.
@@KaidenOrgana Lol, that's not how it works in real life dude. You talk like somebody who doesn't work for a living.
@@flybeep1661 I'm so sorry you can't comprehend simple math. Hopefully your disability isn't too severe.
We need chris showstopper back lol
That's totally doable. All we need you to do is for you to just completely fix COVID so he can come to New York from Australia and hang out.
@@inked damn Covid. Ruining Chris Showstopper's amazing comeback...
Couldn't you do the Zoom thing again perhaps?
I want to see these artists show their favorite pieces from their portfolios
poch is my fave. his laugh is so contagious.
"bolt will hold" the thick black lettering on my sternum already faded after 1 1/6 years for reasons unkown to me.
Tattoo artist should 100% have great bedside manners and know what client they’re getting for the day and be personable. I had a consultation for a memorial piece and he didn’t seem really involved or cared much. I told myself people have off days too. Yesterday I went in for the tattoo and he shook my hand like he’d never met me and said “I haven’t had time to look at your reference pictures. What are you getting?” It just made me feel like he didn’t care who he tattooed but just wanted my money. It kind of ruined the moment I needed to reflect on the piece and honor my passed loved one
Sara fable is super right on. Went to a local artist for my first tattoos, went back for the most recent and got my first scary AND first color tattoo. I don’t like his style but I trust him to put my ideas on my body
Y'all... But I love the watercolor tattoo style 😭
1:28 this editor deserves an oscar😭😭
I love Sara, her work is incredible but more importantly I know I would enjoy her company and have a good time if she was tattooing me. I think tattoo artists sometimes forget that you're still providing a service to someone and as long as the customee aren't being shit to you, you should be trying to be friendly and make them as comfortable as possible.
I agree Sara, while I admit it was hard at the start to admit what works and won't work on the long run you have to move your ego aside and be honest if you want to play the long game.
And the guy in the behemoth tee talking about apprenticeships and specific style: 100% I went into my apprenticeship having a niche/specific style, my mentor saw that and I barely touched colour or other styles and immediately played to that strength, now I have a high return clientele that knows what to expect and we're both satisfied with the outcome because its in my wheelhouse and the style they want.
About “niche” styles etc. (I am a designer and couldn’t agree/be happier that you had the experience that you did and it allowed you to become even more specifically in depth into your personal artistic expertise and skill 💕💕). I always think of it like the idea that if you are particularly artistically interested (like Monet for very simple example in painting, and specifically almost universally recognizable for Impressionism) then it absolutely makes NO SENSE whatsoever to put you (and the client too lol) through the torturous excruciating apprehensive experience of being forced to practice an expertise that is completely different and not at all reflective of what YOU in particular are really GREAT/EXPERT/SPECIALIST in because why not have that person seek out *the* artist that *is that person* for what they want? Like commissioning an impressionist painter to sculpt a post-modern abstract iron sculptural piece for someone’s ultra modern minimalist office space IS NOT EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS but good luck I tell you on how that turns out…… ?????!!!! Lol. Look, I’m not going to try to advise someone to consider a Balenciaga all black leather and silver metal chained etc conceptual runway design for their wedding dress if they are looking to be an ethereal, light softly silk tulle cloud like Marchesa (or Vera Wang lol etc) instantly recognizable traditional image of literal bridal perfection on their wedding day, it’s as simple as that 🤷🏻♀️🧵🪡💟
Sara is so delightful. I could listen to her talk all day.
I'm pretty sure my opinion on this is in the minority amongst people interested in tattoos (whether they have them or not), but perhaps not necessarily among the general population: I'm not interested in large pieces or sleeves because if you have to look too hard to make out what you're seeing and it's not on someone whose body you have any reason to take long hard looks at, all you're going to see is that there is a large amount of tattooed space. Can't make out the wood for the trees, or even the individual trees. I understand that the point of them is to benefit the one person who matters - i.e. the person whose body they're on, but if we're to talk about enjoying and celebrating each other's tattoos, I'd much rather see individual tattoos surrounded by plenty of empty space so you can see clearly what each tattoo is and take it all in at once without staring long and hard, whether or not the person in question has invited you to stare.
I have a watercolor tattoo, I think they can be very artistic if done correctly
My unpopular opinion is that "Upsidedown tattoo sometimes work"
k the most unpopular opinions were : "bold will not necessarily hold" and "microtattoos rock" the rest was like 99/100 tattoo artists would say ^^
A tattoo healed for 2 years, doesn't prove micro will hold. Talk in 10-20-30 years. Bold tattoos most certainly hold much better than that
Unpopular opinion : your tattoos don't have to have meaning through time. I got a tattoo when I was 18 that meant a lot to me. My life has changed so much that the meaning of it don't mean anything now. I see so much people worrying about what if it loose meaning ? Mine did but I'm still the same person, I still like it even if it doesn't mean anything and it's just a random thing on my arm now so it doesn't really matter
You should ask them about tattooing darker skin tones would love to see theirs takes and even some of their work on different color skin tones
Sara Fabel is exactly how I'd want anyone who works on me to be. The reason I go to the piercing shop I do (and even will let an apprentice work on me) is because the culture there is of kind honesty. It's next to a college campus, and I think it's great they don't take advantage of young adults. Instead they build expectations for how they should be treated by people doing work on them!
9:32 she might just be the sweetest most positive human out there🤭💜
All the business realness in this video was so awesome to hear
Go to a nursing home and look at tattoos. You will learn a lot. I worked in nursing homes for over 20 years. The most humorous one I ever saw was right above a man's pubic hair line in a banner he had tattooed "danger low swinging boom"
They said "bold will hold" so much google sent me targeted ads for some "bold hold" hair products. Thanks for that.
Poch and pony are the best duo
I don’t even have tattoos. I just come for Pony and Poch
Sara Fabel hits the mark every single time in these videos 🙌
If I ever get a tattoo done, I really hope I find someone like Sara.
Of course as a person that does micro realism he would say that it will last and that others dont know how to do them correctly
Love it when you see really chill people with little dogs. They are usually the opposite of chill 😂😂 I'm 1:14 in and I'm like awwwwwww 😍😍😍
I would love to get a tattoo from Pony. Finding amazing artists near where you live can be difficult
I want Pony and Pooch to tattoo me at the same time while cracking each other up for hours
HAHA Only 0:33 seconds in and I’m already laughing so hard. I can’t. Bessst series ever!!
I have a tattoo without an outline.15 yrs later it looks exactly the same.
Is there black in it? Or is it just all color?
Poch and Pony ♡♡♡
9:36 that was a cute response
Sara is a queen and she's fuckin killing it
we shouldn't call tattoos of subject matter that we don't like or a style that we wouldn't get that's drawn and applied well a "bad" tattoo. just because you wouldn't personally wear it doesn't mean it's bad. i personally would never get a new school tattoo, but when one is done well it's still a good tattoo. see kelly doty, thom bulman, etc.
(also please keep pony and poch together for the next season of videos, they're hysterical)
the blonde girl talking about "word of mouth" UNDERSTANDS the business and as a customer... i appreciate those comments. bless you lady!
Whatever you want to do, do it, it's cool to somebody - great outlook!
Pony and pooch need there own show
I was skeptical of the new wireless machines but now have multiple tats by a dude that only uses wireless and love that it made doing my hand easier for him.
I would love to hear the science behind micro-tattoos, like what makes them last or not ?
no expert, but i feel mainly that all tattoo lines will thicken with time. so if you got a small tattoo with small details in time the lines will thicken and you lose the detail making it look whack and hard to read
simple and with enough space to let the skin breathe and show contrast, and lots of black. Using skin breaks in place of jamming in shading everywhere with fine deatil. For example Ponys Edward Scissorhands there uses a lot of deep packed black, and gentle shading to get his look, vs trying to texture every single hair on his head and make his skin look real, eyes wet etc. Technical application, so not blowing out lines, knowing how deep to go etc, used with smart design. If ink has room to breathe itll last, if its all jammed together and starts to bleed out/fade over time, it'll blur together
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