Comparing the film versions of West Side Story

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  • @PurpleBiscuit
    @PurpleBiscuit 2 года назад +2009

    One of the changes that I loved the most was seeing the Jett girls trying to help Anita when the Jett's attack her. I think it heightened how monstrous the Jetts where on that scene that not even their peers would stand beside them

    • @riverebec1
      @riverebec1 2 года назад +364

      I was absolutely moved by that as well! The way Graziella attempted to rescue Anita by frantically grabbing onto her hand before she's thrown and locked out of Doc's store. It was heartbreaking to watch her helplessly and tearfully bang on the window begging them "DON'T HURT HER!" Almost as if she is re-experiencing a similar attack that might have happened to her. Makes one wonder how much worse it was for the girls growing up in such an environment.

    • @shadowshade904
      @shadowshade904 2 года назад +82

      Yeah, I rarely cry during movies, but that scene had me very close to tears

    • @filo4854
      @filo4854 2 года назад +59

      That scene was so powerful in the new one

    • @miaandreatta6037
      @miaandreatta6037 2 года назад +193

      Finally I see someone talk about that. Out of everything new added into the film that stuck with me the most, as it solidified this bond between the women in the story. Grazi had probably been through something like that and despite not liking Anita didn’t want to see her hurt, and later having Valentina who is very much the matriarch of both these groups call the boys out on their behavior saying “you dishonor yourselves” gives the scene a lot more depth and humanity to the scene. Putting a lens on what all the women in that environment must go through despite race or ethnicity and having that understood solidarity was really moving and tragic to watch.

    • @andieteagan1599
      @andieteagan1599 2 года назад +4

      Same

  • @Hollyberrystreats
    @Hollyberrystreats 3 года назад +2731

    Having Tony be an ex-con who almost killed someone and that's why he distanced himself from the Jets is a change that worked well for me. In the original it just seemed like Tony outgrew the Jets like they were some childhood hobby, really undercutting their threat since I don't think it's that easy for people to leave organized crime. Similarly having Bernardo as a boxer and his snark to Riff that the Sharks all have jobs drives home the hopelessness of having to fight like this, for survival and a piece of a place that's about to disappear anyway, while also working real jobs that might disappear as well.

    • @juliannehannes11
      @juliannehannes11 3 года назад +163

      And also it was like Tony was the muscle and Riff was the talker/wise guy and it made sense why Riff was desperate for him to come back, because he towered over everyone and can fight with brute strength, it wasn't just friendship, Riff literally needed him to win the fight

    • @bartmann81
      @bartmann81 3 года назад +100

      The original also suggested, with all Tony's affectionate references to his mother, that he is from a warm and stable home in comparison to Riff and the rest of the jets. Now he's far more of an orphan (literally or figuratively). The fact he found a new home and perspectives for the first time in his life in Valentina but was also still under parole was very clever move. It made the stakes a lot higher.

    • @susanalopez5052
      @susanalopez5052 3 года назад +99

      I didn’t like it at first tbh kinda made Tony more unlikeable to me BUT I like the contrast between him and Chino that gets created now. Tony is the Troubled one under Parole without hope for the future, Chino is the bright one with potential trying to get an education and lift his community up only to end up how Tony starts the film

    • @Hollyberrystreats
      @Hollyberrystreats 3 года назад +51

      @@susanalopez5052 And likely to be treated much worse by law enforcement

    • @Its.brandi.with.an.i
      @Its.brandi.with.an.i 3 года назад +38

      This was the moment where I lost some of the cynacism about how bad I was expecting the movie to be. Giving all of the characters more dimension for why they are the way that they are provided much more richness in the movie I didn't know I was craving.

  • @DMovieman
    @DMovieman 3 года назад +2827

    One thing I can absolutely say both films have in common is that Anita is still my favorite character, and America is still the best musical number, hands down! 👏👏👏

    • @erikdaniels0n
      @erikdaniels0n 3 года назад +192

      America was 1000% the highlight of both versions, but I think the 2021 version is superior. I loved the “party in the street” vibe to the number and how they really played up the playful back and forth between the girls and their boyfriends

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc 3 года назад +38

      I listen to america from Rita almost daily

    • @Advent3546
      @Advent3546 3 года назад +95

      Ariana DeBose was an absolute star! She lit up the screen every time she was in it.

    • @bkrewind
      @bkrewind  3 года назад +149

      i can never prove this but i'm almost sure chita rivera's was probably the best one hahaha

    • @aceblanks7658
      @aceblanks7658 3 года назад +9

      Saaaaaaaame on both!!!!! Loooooove Anita and “America”!!!!

  • @RizzoF21344
    @RizzoF21344 3 года назад +1292

    The change that stuck out to me the most was Chino. How they altered his character made his story the most heartbreaking in some ways. Out of both the Jets and the Sharks he was the one person who had a really bright future. An accountant who was learning machine repair. He was bright, polite, cute and even a bit funny (see him at the dance). Yet in the end his best friend was dead and he became a killer, likely to go to jail for many years or even life. I don't normally cry very much at movies but I've seen this twice now and cried for him both times!

    • @bartmann81
      @bartmann81 3 года назад +122

      Good point. Chino was never much more then a prop in the stage version and the 1961 movie. I used to think, 'Who cares? The film isn't about Chino.' Until I saw the new version. My only regret is that he didn't get to sing a song.

    • @ElectraHeart05
      @ElectraHeart05 3 года назад +107

      But honestly I think that was the point. How due to hate and loss someone who has the brightest future can become a killer. Like Maria said “I have hate now so I can kill.”

    • @blueblank8287
      @blueblank8287 3 года назад +150

      Chino was adorable in the new version. I was going “awwww, look at him, he’s doing his best! …I genuinely feel kind of bad that Maria’s going to fall for someone else in two minutes!” in the scene at the dance.
      Found it very interesting that they had him and Tony sneak into the warehouse together, also, paralleling both of them meaning well and caring about that more than their friends’ feud and then going on to react the same way to their best friends’ murders.

    • @GiftSparks
      @GiftSparks 3 года назад +85

      Totally right. Chino actually was a character instead of a plot device. Really, he was sympathetic and realistic.

    • @beatriceotter8718
      @beatriceotter8718 3 года назад +49

      All of the characters were better developed, but Chino was like night and day--I really appreciated that.

  • @salmakhouja7700
    @salmakhouja7700 3 года назад +2005

    Here's what i loved about the 2021 version:
    - they really buffed up the caracters back stories, espacially Maria and Tony's
    - the relationship between Tony and Riff is given much more context and depth, also Mike Faist is a REVELATION!!!
    - the "Cool" scene is insanely well filmed and choreographed
    - Also you can tell tell Spielberg LOVES musicals! Most musical directors seem almost embarassed by the fact that they're directing one (hm Tom Hooper). Spielberg is like "yes these are street gang members dancing ballet in the middle of the street, deal with it!"
    My two little tiny issues (cause i F%%% loved that movie)
    - The placement of "i feel pretty" bothered me a little. It's supposed to be this joyous song about falling in love and here in the context of the film it's just sad
    - The new "America" version is great but the 1962 version just feels angrier and has much more effect in my opinion
    Edit: wow did not expect for this comment to get so many likes and replies! So cool to read all your opinions and learning so much (didn't know that the "I feel pretty placement was the same than on broadway :) )

    • @chokolat762
      @chokolat762 3 года назад +144

      Personally, the new version of "I fell pretty" fulfilled the same function, it continues to be seen how in love she is and visually it is beautiful

    • @CelesteKnits
      @CelesteKnits 3 года назад +15

      Literally all of this.

    • @fad23
      @fad23 3 года назад +90

      I looked it up and it is placed in the same spot as it was on Broadway.

    • @hugodibartolomeo1662
      @hugodibartolomeo1662 3 года назад +113

      I've never really liked the original "i feel pretty" which I find a little too corny, but his new placement adds a little irony which makes me laugh a little.

    • @soniachapple3141
      @soniachapple3141 3 года назад

      Agree

  • @VidWatcher01
    @VidWatcher01 3 года назад +570

    The attempted rape scene in the original version always made me feel uncomfortable but it messed me up in this newer version. I mean the white women who originally scorned Anita just as much as the dudes in the beginning of the scene go out their way to try to help before they're locked out Doc's store! Even they knew how messed up it was for the Jets to try to rape an innocent woman because of the hatred in their hearts. I was glad when Valentina called them out for growing up to become rapists.

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 2 года назад +15

      I too was moved by the white girls' desperate attempt to stop the rape. Everyone is this film is a real person.

    • @AnnaVaubel
      @AnnaVaubel 2 года назад +38

      Yep, it really hit hard and there’s nothing worse that an old lady’s berating

    • @alydirectioner4life
      @alydirectioner4life Год назад +15

      the original scenes ending had a real punch to it too though, i kind of wished they’d let that line in

  • @henninggirl261
    @henninggirl261 3 года назад +1196

    I have a theory that most creatives don’t understand the character of Tony. They think his conflict is being with Maria and it’s really not. Tony is trying to leave his violent past behind, which is clearly the way forward. Maria is even a good partner for him in this regard. His Achilles heel is Riff. Where Tony ultimately fails is not comprehending that in order to keep on his path, he has to let Riff go. When Maria asks him to stop the rumble, he should’ve said “I can’t. The only thing we can do is distance ourselves as much as possible.” Just like is Romeo & Juliet the solutions are actually pretty simple but they’re too close and cannot see the forest for the trees. Friar Lawrence should’ve married Romeo and Juliet and then immediately taken them to the Prince of Verona and told him “I have a solution for your problem.” The Prince announces their marriage and his blessing of it. Bing bang boom, Montague and Capulet would be forced into a position of making public peace.

    • @AmaraEmme
      @AmaraEmme 3 года назад +42

      I wish I could pin this comment, you’re spot on

    • @LucyLioness100
      @LucyLioness100 3 года назад +26

      Well stated & exactly what I see. You hit the nail on the head

    • @the-ma-an
      @the-ma-an 3 года назад +10

      That's just an external fix though, and it doesn't really solve the problem of them absolutely hating each other

    • @henninggirl261
      @henninggirl261 2 года назад +39

      @@the-ma-an how do you think most ancient feuds were solved? Marriage.

    • @riverebec1
      @riverebec1 2 года назад +2

      But then there would be no conflict, no drama, and no movie

  • @noemiecansier8466
    @noemiecansier8466 3 года назад +655

    I really liked the changed of Tony awkwardly trying to learn Spanish, that was very sweet. All other valid criticisms aside I thought Ansel did a good job of the ‘James Dean’ type. I didn’t like how Tony seemed to think of Maria as his own personal redemption, I did like that Bernardo called him out on it.

    • @Seetha-Golden
      @Seetha-Golden 3 года назад +19

      No he was the worst in the whole production.
      I can't believe they didn't just cast Tom Holland or Timothee Chalamet for the role.

    • @noemiecansier8466
      @noemiecansier8466 3 года назад +9

      I agree with you on Chalamet, he seems to be the better singer.

    • @wendytech
      @wendytech 2 года назад +94

      @@noemiecansier8466 I like Chalamet, but he's no tough guy. I just wouldn't believe he would be the founder of a NY gang.

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 2 года назад +13

      @@Seetha-Golden Feel free to make your own version....I'm sure you can do better. Love to hear you tell the Producer Rita Moreno to her face.

    • @kayleeeileen2562
      @kayleeeileen2562 2 года назад +41

      I think Ansel Elgort was perfect! Timothey Chalamet is in everything, and he doesn’t fit the character. Tony is supposed to be attractive but in a very average way. Timothey stands out too much with his sharp jawline.

  • @kleerude
    @kleerude 3 года назад +1068

    I was blown away by Rachel Zegler’s singing. She sang like an angel!

    • @GiftSparks
      @GiftSparks 3 года назад +54

      she really did. Her voice is as clear as a bell. Truly gorgeous!

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 3 года назад +25

      @@GiftSparks Rachel Zegler in the Spielberg film and Carol Lawrence in the original Broadway cast sang "One Hand, One Heart" in the published key of A♭ Major. Marni Nixon who dubbed Natalie Wood's singing voice in the 1961 film sang it one whole step lower in the key of G♭.

    • @DragonHeart956
      @DragonHeart956 3 года назад +70

      Stephen Sondheim was invited to an advance screening not long before his death. He said she sang like a nightingale.

    • @gabrielles6451
      @gabrielles6451 3 года назад +18

      Honestly if I could have anyones vocal talent and range I’d pick Rachel’s

    • @emb74
      @emb74 3 года назад +6

      @@RaymondHng I would guess that Marni Nixon could have readily handled it in the original key but remember everything was already recorded in Natalie Woods voice (for whom it was probably lowered) so Marni just had to dub with that. Having said that Rachel’s voice is extraordinary and I caught myself thinking that Marni Nixon would have been very impressed!

  • @koook160
    @koook160 3 года назад +578

    The change that surprised me the most was Riff. Tamblyn’s take had a more “class clown” feel to him, and most productions either follow suit or pay little mind to the character despite his importance.
    The second Mike Faist entered the frame, I knew they weren’t going down that route. With an emaciated build, hardened expressions, distinct body language, you knew they had different plans. Riff being depicted as a hateful, charismatic, almost psychopathic figure really shook the ground. Faist’s performance might be my favorite of the entire year. Every acting choice he makes (the John Mulaney-meets-Paul-Reiser voice, the mannerisms) is “big”. It could have gone wrong in so many ways, but the gambit pays off, and we get a definitive portrayal of the character.
    Nominate him, AMPAS! Do Kodi Smit-Mcphee too, so we have two Demon Twinks in Supporting Actor

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 3 года назад +55

      Agree Faist was stunning and original as Riff- love the way he says "knives?" as a question when Riff is talking about weapons with Bernardo, for example- don't see anyone else making this kind of choice, and that surprise element ran throughout his performance. Faist also allowed for audience empathy by showing a vulnerability underneath the tough demeanor, and he made you understand the background that led Riff to his current place in society. Definitely a "Who the hell is that!?!" performance.

    • @koook160
      @koook160 3 года назад +95

      @@slc2466 What gets me is how practically suicidal they made him. Apparently the lean into the gun while shifting his toothpick was an ad lib, and he just looks so relieved with his fate by the end. There’s a darkness to his work lesser performers wouldn’t dare to tread.

    • @Sarana.
      @Sarana. 3 года назад +13

      This comment!! Also his manner of speaking 100% reminded me of John Mulaney as well

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 3 года назад +54

      I think with that crooked smile he incorporated the antic personality of Shakespeare's Mercutio, the model for the musical's character of Riff.

    • @judescoburn6021
      @judescoburn6021 3 года назад +31

      Yes, Faist's physical, intense, nervous energy is Pacinoesque; the viewer can't take their eyes off of him. He gave a remarkably smart performance.

  • @Mattrr214
    @Mattrr214 3 года назад +231

    The contextualization re: the gentrification of Manhattan's west side (new to me!) helped articulate, as you said, that macro-level of systemic oppression against the WHOLE neighborhood, Jet or Shark. I saw the film this afternoon and what I'm struck by most is Valentina. Who once was an Anita. Now a widow and revisiting the "taunting" scene from the POV of needing to be the adult to break it up. This tiny woman, who has lived a WHOLE life, shouldn't be out on the streets now in her house coat and hair-net. This woman should be upstairs; asleep in the bed she shared with her husband in the apartment above the store she's now being strong-armed out of to better suit the dreams of Mr. Robert Moses. It felt like such a circle. A real answer to "why are we revisiting WSS?" Because in America traumatized children find access to guns and with those guns they end up traumatizing those left behind, clearing the rubble. Thank you for your work--it's tremendous.

    • @mikeciul8599
      @mikeciul8599 3 года назад +22

      My favorite change was Valentina's speech to the Jets. Anita's scene at Doc's was the most painful part of both movies for me, and it really helped to hear Valentina's voice in response to that.

  • @musical_merri
    @musical_merri 3 года назад +311

    First of all, the movie is an absolute masterpiece! Here's my take on Ansel. He gave a fine performance! I'm so tired of seeing comments of people saying "he brought the entire movie down - one of the worst performances - he can't sing - he showed no emotion". In all honesty, he gave Tony so much more depth and urgency than the original. The way he delivered some of his lines was beautiful, and made me tear up. Do I support AE personal life? No. But I give credit when credit is due. I loved the entire move, and you can see the entire cast gave it their 110%.

    • @alishag1662
      @alishag1662 3 года назад +51

      Thank you, finally an honest review. Many people don't know how to separate someone's personal life from their craft, and it shows. But I, too, thought he bought a lot of depth to Tony's character, and the audience could feel it when he sang, danced, and showered us with emotion. Yes, at times, there was a lack of chemistry between him & Rachel (Maria), but it didn't damper the film. The cast was brilliant and was a great send-off to the original West Side Story.

    • @johnstirret5021
      @johnstirret5021 3 года назад +56

      Ansel has a beautiful tenor voice, much better than whoever dubbed Richard Beymer's voice in the original. Ansel is also a very good actor and is believable as a young kid.

    • @musical_merri
      @musical_merri 3 года назад +3

      @@alishag1662 yes! Exactly! Thank you for your input!

    • @musical_merri
      @musical_merri 3 года назад +2

      @@johnstirret5021 facts.

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 3 года назад +48

      The streak of violence revealed when he pounded the shit out of Bernardo, and then his pulling back, himself shocked by his capability to kill a man with his bare hands, was tremendously powerful. Tony in the original musical is not as interesting as the other characters--he could be any young man in love. In Spielberg's film he has many layers.

  • @erikdaniels0n
    @erikdaniels0n 3 года назад +1014

    Ansel Elgort aside, I thought the cast did incredible. Rachel Zegler, Ariana DeBose, Mike Faist, David Alvarez and Josh Andrés Rivera really gave their characters so much depth and weight with their performances. All of them added much complexitity and depth to their characters, which makes Riff and Bernardo’s deaths and Tony’s ultimate murder by Chino so unbelievably tragic and devistating

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc 3 года назад +100

      Agreed on Ansel part you can tell he was completely out of his zone from musical theatre, my favorite part from him acting wise was when Valentina falsely told him Maria hurt, although his singing voice was nice and his 1960s NYC accent was spot on.

    • @erikdaniels0n
      @erikdaniels0n 3 года назад +78

      @@Kevin-rg3yc there were certainly moments where there were glimmers of excelence. The scene with Valentina and Tony where she tells him Maria is dead is one, and the other is the scene where he beats up Bernardo. You can see so much rage and fury in his eyes

    • @Kevin-rg3yc
      @Kevin-rg3yc 3 года назад +17

      @@erikdaniels0n yea I literally felt his heart when his face became so sadden but doc telling him what she thought what happened to Maria I legit got choked up

    • @lohphat
      @lohphat 3 года назад +48

      He is innocent until a jury says otherwise or he pleads guilty. Accusing someone of a crime on Twitter instead of talking to the police or a DA doesn't help your case.
      If he did something wrong, then there needs to be a court date where evidence is presented. We don't convict people on just allegations alone.

    • @cassiek1984
      @cassiek1984 3 года назад +31

      Ok but I had to pause when she called him Angle Export. Was that intentional or not? 😂

  • @thewalrusaurus
    @thewalrusaurus 3 года назад +766

    The only change that i felt wasn't a straight upgrade from the original was giving Somewhere to Rita Moreno. Its a cute idea, but without that song, Maria's acceptance of Tony despite the knowledge of his murder of her brother lacks justification. The moment doesn't play right without the two of them singing it together. It also has the side effect of switching the reprise at the close of the film to Tonight, instead of Somewhere which isn't remotely as effective imo.

    • @marialuisaoliveira1009
      @marialuisaoliveira1009 3 года назад +30

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @SunRhe
      @SunRhe 3 года назад +34

      At the very least, they could have kept it a duet!!!

    • @nancyperez5057
      @nancyperez5057 3 года назад +62

      I felt the new movie conveyed Tony's love for Riff to Maria properly (wedding sequence), making Tony killing Nardo semi-justified in Maria's eyes. She knew Riff was his only family. I didn't get this sense from the original.

    • @beltingtokra
      @beltingtokra 3 года назад +116

      In the original stage show, Somewhere isn't a duet, it's sung by an unnamed girl, the 2021 version isn't remaking the 61 film it's a 21st century adaptation of the Broadway show. I understand it's jarring for fans of the first film who haven't seen the show onstage, but I thought it was magnificent.

    • @viddork
      @viddork 3 года назад +24

      @@beltingtokra But it really doesn't make any sense for a woman of Valentina's age to be singing about a better, more hopeful future somewhere, someday that she can't ever expect to see. Much better for it to come from Tony and Maria. Who is the unnamed girl who sings it on stage - why is she singing it?

  • @luisjaviercarrasquillo6342
    @luisjaviercarrasquillo6342 3 года назад +368

    As a person born and raised in Puerto Rico, I can confidently say Spielberg’s adaptation addresses A LOT of the issues of 1961 film regarding cultural depiction. Like you, I was skeptical of a new adaptation, but was pleasantly surprised.

    • @carolharris2357
      @carolharris2357 2 года назад

      I liked it except when Tony meets her in the dress shop where in the first movie they had a "marriage" declaring their love and one they will never get to have.

  • @shubhaghosh
    @shubhaghosh 3 года назад +296

    Rita Moreno singing Somewhere was remarkable. Giving her a chance to sing, the song placement showed how things remain the same even as things progress. The Rita Moreno character Valentina is Doc’s widow, and her marriage to Doc is what Tony is striving for.

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 3 года назад +23

      This was probably my favorite updated moment in the 2021 version. I didn't know how they were going to make the song work from Valentina's perspective, but Kushner and Spielberg pulled it off in a simple, spot-on manner.

    • @TyroneBeiron
      @TyroneBeiron 2 года назад +6

      I believe the Valentina/Somewhere was a 'live' performance single take shot too.

    • @tuliothx
      @tuliothx 2 года назад +7

      This is one of the few changes that I disliked. I wasn’t able to buy into Valentina being Doc’s wife. Why would the Jets, with all of their hate raging, hang out at a place run by a Puerto Rican? It just doesn’t fit. If you had to bring a 1961 cast member back then Russ Tamblyn (Riff) should have played Doc. I think that would have added a very nice dimension to it.

    • @TyroneBeiron
      @TyroneBeiron 2 года назад +2

      @@tuliothx You're absolutely right. But you know how 'Woke' Hollywood gets with creating in new roles based on the race-gender ID and so, I wasn't surprised, really.

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  • @terracerios5924
    @terracerios5924 3 года назад +847

    For the subtitles debate, while I appreciate the intention of not giving subtitles to the Spanish dialogue, I think it backfires by in a way silencing the Puerto Rican characters to non-Spanish speaking audiences and creates a further divide. What could have been more impactful would be giving Spanish subtitles under English dialogue and English subtitles under the Spanish dialogue as a way of creating a bridge across language barriers on both sides. But that also could distract audiences… Thoughts?

    • @MadameCorgi
      @MadameCorgi 3 года назад +143

      I agree, subtitles on both would have been a good solution. My Spanish isn't great so I would have appreciated sub's in important moments like Chino talking to María after the rumble

    • @soph996
      @soph996 3 года назад +255

      As someone who speaks Spanish I can promise you, you didn't miss out and including subtitles for the two lines of dialogue ever five minutes would have just been distracting
      Honestly, every line in Spanish is either a) directly translated in a follow up line; b) has a follow up line that has a similar meaning or theme (think, one of the Sharks saying Bernardo was " un puertorriqueño orgulloso - a strong Puerto Riqueño" or smth along those lines. It's obvious what he was saying and they repeated the basic concept, a proud man and a strong man); c) the sentiment was understandable without needing to understand the dialogue and d) the line wasn't really that important (like Maria screaming to her brother during the balcony scene that she's getting dressed)
      Aaaaand e) makes it so much more realistic to watch. Yeah, it makes sense for them to slip into Spanish when they are emotional or trying to communicate without the American monolinguists eavesdropping

    • @GiftSparks
      @GiftSparks 3 года назад +25

      YES! that is what I was saying on a different platform. Think of it this way. If a French audience were watching the film- wouldn't all the scenes (Spanish and English) be subtitled in French? Subtitles in both English and Spanish would have made a lot of sense.

    • @yeahiagree1070
      @yeahiagree1070 3 года назад +82

      having spanish subtitles plastered across 95% of the film would be completely ludicrous. the brief non-english scenes are intentionally performed in a way so the audience doesn't need to know the exact words being used. one of the scenes is literally about language, while anita is interrupting saying "speak english, we need to practice." it's the whole purpose of the scene.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 3 года назад +20

      @@soph996 Also, can anyone discern the English lyrics from five characters singing their separate melodic lines in the quintet "Tonight"? Most likely no, but you can still get the gist of it.

  • @WhateverHonestly15
    @WhateverHonestly15 2 года назад +31

    Having seen both versions, honestly I preferred the romance in the first one. I don't really get on board easily with love at first sight stories but this one in the 1961 movie was just so compelling and sweet looking that I loved it. Its very fantastical and idealistic but mutual and hopeful and I think the lack of words, the interpretative dancing and the incredible acting made it just work.

  • @BrendaGarcia-ty2ml
    @BrendaGarcia-ty2ml 3 года назад +223

    When you change “let it sink in the ocean” it flattens the character of Amita. A lot of people can relate to hating their country - that’s what makes her complex and independent. It’s her saying that about her home - not a general statement about Puerto Rico.

    • @francisco.mrsm.22
      @francisco.mrsm.22 3 года назад +104

      I can see that, it removed some of the passion from the scene, but I kind of like this Anita. She feels more like someone who loves her home but is trying to make the most out of America and adapt. It especially feels resonant with her final scene where she drops the facade and just lets everyone know the truth. She's stuck here, it's her home now, she has to live here.

    • @hanautomo4980
      @hanautomo4980 3 года назад +74

      I respectfully disagree. I think changing the lyrics adds more nuance to Anita's character. Ariana played a more hopeful and cheerful Anita compared to Rita's cynical and sarcastic portrayal. I love both interpretations, they are amazing in their own right. Having ambivalent feelings towards your homeland is realistic too. This version of Anita can see what makes Puerto Rico beautiful, but there's just so many struggles and hardships to endure if she stays there ('Money owing, babies crying, people trying') that when it comes down to it, she prefers to chase the American dream. It makes it even more heartbreaking when she finally thinks Bernardo is right and wants to return to Puerto Rico after her last scene. It showed that no matter how much she acts 'American'-like and try everything she can to assimilate, she would never be considered as equals to descendants of white European immigrants.

    • @Tinymoezzy
      @Tinymoezzy 3 года назад +18

      A solid mix of love and hate would feel relatable.
      I love my land, but I hate the cost, I love the people, but I hate what they've done.

    • @tiffanylio
      @tiffanylio 3 года назад +18

      I agree, it's a very latino thing to have that mixed feeling towards our country and that line is not harmful as that first one, it's just very realistic (i can see one of my aunties or uncles saying it!)

    • @BrendaGarcia-ty2ml
      @BrendaGarcia-ty2ml 3 года назад +5

      @@hanautomo4980 I can see that! However, to me, what you’re detailing is a “flatter” character. Not completely flat like, let’s say, the good moral good red head character in The Revenant, but certainly flatter than what Rita gave.

  • @bobgarrett3367
    @bobgarrett3367 3 года назад +399

    Both are exceptional films...The last scene in the 61 version however is so far superior, Natalie Wood et al bring you to tears every time. The last scene in the 21 version is played much too fast and Rachel Zegler so good in the film just didnt muster the depth that Natalie Wood captured, And not using Somewhere in the 21 version markedly damaged that scene imo. But Bravo to all who created both films!

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 3 года назад +73

      Totally agree regarding the ending and how great Wood is in it. I think they deliberately toned down the finale (and cut some of Maria's dialogue) and although Zegler performed it very gracefully, it didn't allow for the same emotional impact you get with Wood fully expressing Maria's rage and remorse (I never will get "Don't you touch him!" and Wood's guttural cries as she drops the gun and falls to her knees out of my mind).

    • @nikkigregerson
      @nikkigregerson 3 года назад +17

      @@slc2466 I just found out that both Natalie Wood and Marni Nixon are saying "Don't you touch him" which kind of made my brain explode and I really want to know how/why Robert Wise thought to do it. The man loved a good dub and in this case it really worked!

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 3 года назад +6

      @@nikkigregerson Interesting info- IMDB states this is the case, but the Movie Mistakes website corrects this assertion and gives Wood sole credit. It does sound like Natalie to me.

    • @TimeIdle
      @TimeIdle 3 года назад +9

      I don't know why they altered the ending like that. Even my HS production made a bigger impact by sticking to the script. :)

    • @jeffwatkins352
      @jeffwatkins352 3 года назад +20

      100% spot on. The 2021 version couldn't use Somewhere of course due to repositioning it to Valentina. But those two ghostly tender string chords completing the song as Maria looks silently down on the dead Tony are unrivaled gold. And yes, Wood's final speech is IMO the high point of her career. Now I have it on DVD, I've watched the 1961 film every year for the last decade. I'll get the 2021 DVD and have a double bill every year until they lay me in my pine box. How lucky I feel to have lived when I lived to be blessed by this great artwork.

  • @benjamintillema3572
    @benjamintillema3572 3 года назад +378

    Comparing the opening scene of La La Land to a GAP commercial (11:00) was not what I was expecting but I'm here for it!

    • @C_M_R
      @C_M_R 3 года назад +29

      Never noticed that either. It is also funny because Gap did a West Side Story inspired commercial for their khaki pants in the early 00s

    • @becauseimafan
      @becauseimafan 3 года назад +8

      @@C_M_R Holy crap you just reached into my brain and yanked out a buried memory. OMG gap _did that_ 😂

    • @reikun86
      @reikun86 3 года назад +1

      @@becauseimafan Stay cool boy....real cool...

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 3 года назад +2

      Are you a jean? Or a khaki? ruclips.net/video/ij-SBwKk12I/видео.html

    • @estherflecksing6305
      @estherflecksing6305 3 года назад +2

      Haven’t seen Lala land… that wasn’t a gap commercial?

  • @judescoburn6021
    @judescoburn6021 3 года назад +107

    Leonard Berstein's brilliant score is the single factor that holds this musical timeless and exceptional. There would be no remakes without it.

    • @johannalamb4022
      @johannalamb4022 3 года назад +6

      This truly is what makes the musical something we all come back to.
      I’m really impressed with how they handled the score in the 2021 version. The re-orchestration to fill symphony orchestra give the music a depth that wasn’t possible when the score is played by the (incredible) doubling Broadway musicians.

    • @leahgeller9988
      @leahgeller9988 3 года назад +10

      Yes! I never tire of hearing that score. And when Bernstein's music meets Jerome Robbins's choreography, it is heaven!

    • @viddork
      @viddork 2 года назад +8

      What? No love for Sondheim's incredible lyrics?

    • @triciathomson4674
      @triciathomson4674 2 года назад +1

      ABSOLUTELY!

    • @marknewton6984
      @marknewton6984 Год назад

      Great music! Plus the dancing in the original.

  • @makayla2827
    @makayla2827 2 года назад +216

    I am a latina who has seen both versions and is also heavily involved with theatre. What changes stuck with me? Most deeply, it was seeing other people like me represented in a movie musical. I loved getting to hear Spanish, without subtitles, translating it on my own for my American boyfriend; it was like an special message just for me from the characters. But the moment that brought me to tears was hearing Valentina sing "Somewhere." It was a plea to the world for a change, if not for us right now, then someday for those ahead of us. I cried because it was the original Anita getting to see the progress we've made in casting. This movie gave me hope for someone like me.

    • @MichaelTrumpetPlayer
      @MichaelTrumpetPlayer Год назад +1

      Thank you for your review. Although I'm just another white guy I LOVED seeing and HEARING the Latino actors. The singing was over the top fantastic! I liked hearing the Puerto Rican rebellion song. It added a lot to the film.

    • @elizabethsmith3374
      @elizabethsmith3374 Год назад +1

      My boyfriend translated it for me too and hearing his reaction to some of it made the moments even funnier for me especially the Krumpt scene where they called him a son of a b***h basically

  • @mikecook1280
    @mikecook1280 2 года назад +28

    The acting of Riff and Bernardo at the rumble was outstanding. The bravado and cockiness initially of both characters changes dramatically when the knives come into play, and the look of fear on both faces while having the knives, knowing the highly increased danger and uncertainty is inevitable, was acting at its very best. Alvarez and Faust’s acting was amazing and memorable in this sequence.

  • @victorfrench6181
    @victorfrench6181 2 года назад +53

    The new version affected me. I can't stop thinking about it. I feel driven to listen and watch it over and over. It must be like people watching the first version for the first time. I absolutely Love both versions. Spielberg walked to the plate, pointed to the left field fence and knocked the movie ball into the parking lot outside the stadium.

  • @kamiclements7456
    @kamiclements7456 2 года назад +13

    I absolutely adored the original when I was younger. But the 2021 version knocked SO many things out of the park! You covered a lot of it, but one thing I noticed (which kind of deals with casting) is the screen chemistry. It’s ELECTRIC! The hatred is very real and a driving force, which shows viewers why the 2 gangs just won’t quit. The chemistry between Tony and Maria is dynamite; and in a “love at first sight” story that takes place over 2 days, the plot falls flat if it isn’t. But I couldn’t believe how the sparks just shot from the screen

  • @JohnHoulgate
    @JohnHoulgate 3 года назад +423

    Good commentary, but like all the other commentaries about the new West Side Story, this commentary does not include anything about the transformation of Chino, who ultimately becomes the most consequential character in the story. This is a radical departure from the previous stage and screen versions of West Side Story. In the previous versions, Chino is just another member of the Sharks. In one scene he claims he is an assistant, trying give himself credibility to his fellow Puerto Ricans. He fits in with Sharks easily and baits the Jets into chasing him during the prologue. Bernardo assigns him to escort Maria to and from the dance. He later hinted he was a possible mate for Maria, but it's not something people take seriously.
    In the new version, Chino enters the story as an accountant and Bernardo has definite plans for him to marry Maria. Chino is nebbish, shy, socially awkward. Chino wants to be in the gang, but Bernardo has other plans for him. He wants to keep Chino out of harm's way. Chino comes late to the Rumble. He picks up Riff's gun afterward. He shows the other Sharks what he intends to do. When they try to stop him, he pushes back and this was something that was not part of his character. He takes off his glasses, so now he's become this monster who is capable of murder.
    I don't think this is something that should be ignored.

    • @fabianhebestreit3240
      @fabianhebestreit3240 3 года назад +66

      Yes! Chino is the biggest and most welcome change in this new version. It's too bad that he gets overlooked, while I was watching the film I thought "Wow, he's a contender for Best Supporting", but nobody ever mentions him in the review. I think it's because he has no song to shine in like Riff and Bernardo.

    • @heg203
      @heg203 3 года назад +13

      agreed! it was a jarring change for me, though. just cuz i felt like, “since when is Paris one of the leads in Romeo and Juliet?” lol
      oh and the “glasses come off = violent monster“ thing was so weird to me, too!

    • @susanalopez5052
      @susanalopez5052 3 года назад +8

      Ir was so heartbreaking how the police gets him at the end :(

    • @fabianhebestreit3240
      @fabianhebestreit3240 3 года назад +32

      @@heg203 It's at least a refreshing change from the old trope "glasses off = suddenly hot"

    • @JohnHoulgate
      @JohnHoulgate 3 года назад

      @@susanalopez5052 And why is that?

  • @LinRuiEn
    @LinRuiEn Год назад +4

    I am glad you included Rita Moreno mentioning that Puerto Ricans can look many different ways. I am part Puerto Rican and even within my family we have differing shades of skin, eyes, noses, etc. It is so comforting to me to see so many Puerto Ricans of all types in the remake and not just lighter skinned. Our family has always loved the musical but the remake truly made many of my cousins feel like it was made with us in mind.

  • @someclarafication4u
    @someclarafication4u 3 года назад +37

    i just screamed ‘LET’S GO’ and threw open my laptop to watch this this channel has a death grip on me

  • @allenn.3909
    @allenn.3909 3 года назад +311

    I was excited to see "I Feel Pretty" in its originally intended placement in the new film, highlighting the dramatic irony in its intended use and to have it set at night again. However, the Rumble sequence rattled me so much that it made me realize that "I Feel Pretty" also needed to be after an intermission because having seen the way they performed the Rumble in this version, one unlike any other take on the scene, really needs an audience member to sit and dwell on it before having the whiplash of the department store. I do think they could have sold that sequence a tad more on its dramatic irony to really make it work, but I appreciate the nod to Stephen Sondhim's discomfort with his lyrics for that song by adding this hint of mockery to the white gringos that María has to work for as a cleaner

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 3 года назад +14

      In the old days longer movies had intermissions. I wish this one did too before I Feel Pretty, just as the stage musical has. It highlights a certain innocence in Maria.

    • @anthonylaudati
      @anthonylaudati 3 года назад +14

      @@philipkuttner7945 "I Feel Pretty" is more correctly positioned earlier in the 1961 film, before the rumble. In the remake, it's hard to enjoy the light-heartened scene with Maria and her friends teasing her knowing that two young men have just been needlessly killed.

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 3 года назад +1

      @@anthonylaudati And also in the stage musical. Good point.

    • @sabahk
      @sabahk 2 года назад +10

      yes I liked the idea of having it placed after the rumble as an ironic twist but it was VERY jolting. I don't think we spent enough time with riff and bernardo's deaths

    • @tamirholmes6324
      @tamirholmes6324 2 года назад +5

      @@anthonylaudati thats the point?

  • @francisco.mrsm.22
    @francisco.mrsm.22 3 года назад +368

    In terms of the authenticity of the new version in its portrayal of Puerto Ricans, I'm torn. It's funny how the goal post has changed, it would've been a dream to have a half Polish half Colombian girl play María in the original. In this new one, it's a little sad. Generally, as a Puerto Rican, I'm ok with Latinos getting cast in Latino roles even if the nationality doesn't line up, but there's a few places where the new one still falls short in ways I think are inherent to the material.
    Firstly, for as much as I love Tony Kushner's screenplay (seriously, the amount of detail he added is astounding), I found it disappointing how much of the screentime still leaned on the Jets. Granted, it's a rivalry, a two sided love story, both sides need their time. But... that's kind of the issue. I got the mentality of the Jets very quickly, I know them from other films and real life stories of white men just like them. I was particularly hoping Bernardo and Chino would get just a little more TLC, but it seems that attention went to Mike Faist's Riff (which, I must admit, is the only Riff I can solidly say I love). I'm wondering what would it have looked like if a Puerto Rican screenwriter or co-screenwriter was brought on. Would it still be such a two sided story? What more insight could we get for the Sharks' relationships to their identity? Hell, here's a big one, would María still forgive and have sex with the gringo that killed her brother just an hour or so after he killed him? But at that point it feels like this is just the story we have and we can't deviate too much, which is a problem when the story concludes in part with María loving Tony till his death and cares more for him than her own brother.
    And the second element is just a scene, but it's the scene that stuck out to me the most from the film. When the Sharks sing the Revolutionary Anthem of Puerto Rico a tear rolled down my face. I never thought I'd see a loving moment dedicated to Puerto Ricans directly standing with the Independence movement. This anthem which is still taboo even in PR to this day finally got a moment in the sun... in a movie not written or directed by Puerto Ricans, by actors that were not Puerto Rican. David Alvarez is truly phenomenal as Bernardo, I don't think he's been getting the credit he deserves, but a part of me was sad that a Puerto Rican couldn't get this moment instead. This Revolutionary anthem is getting the spotlight in a major Hollywood film, but Puerto Ricans can't get to sing it yet. (And, side note, looking at the slate of movies this year vs next year it may be a while untill we do see it bc I guess Hollywood ran out of big Latine projects after this year).
    So all in all, I really liked this movie, this musical holds a special place for me. But I kind of hope this is its last hurrah for West Side Story because I think we've done all we can with it. It broke so many barriers in film and stage, but it can't just be this and In the Heights for the rest of time.

    • @erikdaniels0n
      @erikdaniels0n 3 года назад +42

      I agree on them leaning much more heavily on the Jets than the Sharks, and that was disappointing to me because, if anything, their world is more in danger of disappearing than the Jets world is

    • @hanautomo4980
      @hanautomo4980 3 года назад +53

      I wholeheartedly agree with every point you wrote down. You nailed everything that I had an issue with in this new remake. It's a shame they couldn't find Puerto Rican actors for Maria and Bernardo. Even more saddening, why couldn't they get a Puerto Rican as one of the writers? There could've been more emotional involvement for the Sharks through the perspective of an actual Puerto Rican. The spotlight is focused more on the Jets, even though the Sharks got the worst end of the stick. The Jets have the Jet song, Gee Officer Krupke, and Cool. The Sharks barely have any scenes together nor any of the Shark boys have any moment to showcase their individuality and character depth. Also if I'm not mistaken, Anita and Bernardo have less scenes together compared to the 1961 movie, which was a huge letdown on my part because they were the best thing and what I hold the most dear from the original. They're the only two characters that got me sitting through the whole 1961 movie, flaws and all.
      I can't forget this passage from a critique of West Side Story by a Puerto Rican writer:
      No matter how much authenticity you try to bring to West Side Story, the story requires that Puerto Ricans ultimately be the antagonists. The Sharks never have a chance to be somewhat humanized in the way “Gee, Officer Krupke” does for the Jets. It is Bernardo who opposes Maria and Tony’s relationship and who first becomes a killer. It is Anita who lies after the Jets try to r**e her, leading to Tony’s death. It is Chino who pulls the trigger and kills Tony in revenge.

    • @allenn.3909
      @allenn.3909 3 года назад +37

      I truly do agree, especially with the last part. I am not of Puerto Rican descent, but rather of Asian descent so I have had an exhaustion toward the stories of Miss Saigon and The King and I being our barrier breakers. Not being of Latin American descent, I had not considered West Side Story to fall under this category for that group of people, but I am seeing now how it was always intended to really be a merging of the high arts of ballet and opera and not in portraying authenticity, similar to the prioritizing of the the sweeping scores of Miss Saigon and King and I instead of respecting the culture. In fact, The King and I wrote its music entirely on sounds that would be uncomfortable to Western ears instead of making it based on Thai music, similar to West Side Story actually using a fusion of Latin American music from all over instead of actually centering around Puerto Rican music. I think that we do truly need to leave stories like these as products of their time in the front of representation because it's great that they made revolutionary stories and even more revelatory scores, but they cannot keep being treated like the representation we want, especially if they are not giving real power to the people in those cultures behind the scenes. It also forces folks of our descent to be restrained to these roles, so I hope we can encourage more storytellers instead of revisits.

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 3 года назад +18

      @@hanautomo4980 ; you make some good points. As the critique of West Side Story says; “the story requires that Puerto Ricans … be the antagonists”.
      - To make the Jets / Sharks balance more even, would require a major rewrite (including with who gets what songs).
      Doing that would move the story far away from the 1961 original. It could be done but would it still be West Side Story?

    • @reikun86
      @reikun86 3 года назад +27

      Funny enough, I liked the Sharks more than the Jets in the 1961 version. They seemed like cooler people to hang out with, and I had a huge crush on Bernardo and I loved how sassy Anita was. :)

  • @slc2466
    @slc2466 3 года назад +126

    Enjoyed the new version, but my heart remains with the 1961 take, as its main assets are considerable and still resonate: Moreno's peerless Anita, Chakiris' magnetic Bernardo, and Natalie Wood's powerful closing scene (she may not be of the right ethnicity, but the torment and rage she expresses as Maria is universally identifiable).

    • @jmh27
      @jmh27 3 года назад +8

      Absolutely agree!!

    • @monmothma3358
      @monmothma3358 3 года назад +20

      I agree, actually. I'm not sure it was worth it, getting a better Tony. (Ansel isn't great, but he's better than Richard Beymer.) Natalie Wood's closing scene has stuck with me all these years, since I saw the movie as a kid. It's such an important scene, too, which is probably why it sticks out. No music, no singing, no dancing, just Maria's pain and transformation from innocent girl into someone who can hate. Rachel Zegler's performance in the same scene was okay, but not as compelling

    • @leahgeller9988
      @leahgeller9988 3 года назад +14

      George Chakiris is amazing!

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 2 года назад +3

      I've seen a clip of Natalie's scene, and seen Rachel's performance twice. In acting skills there is no comparison. Natalie is over the top; Rachel is more subtle and more believable. To me. I can understand why you love Natalie more in that scene.

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 2 года назад +20

      @@philipkuttner7945 I disagree regarding "over the top"- I find Natalie emotionally true and very moving in the scene, delving deep to vividly illustrate Maria's heartbreak. As you mention Rachel is subtle, but for me the scene is much more memorable in the 1961 version, due to Natalie's work.

  • @nateds7326
    @nateds7326 Год назад +9

    West Side Story is one of the rare Remakes, like True Grit and Evil Dead, that really didnt need to be made at all, but is still great none the less.

  • @miz_logo_lee
    @miz_logo_lee 3 года назад +59

    The thing I always liked the most about the original is how it acts as an historical document of the demolished neighborhood where it takes place. It was a unique and powerful but sobering opportunity the filmmakers had at that exact moment.

  • @movieswithsammykitty
    @movieswithsammykitty 2 года назад +20

    I really liked the placement of “I Feel Pretty”. It added a tragic irony to it that brought it down to earth in a way.
    Also, as much as I loooove the choreography in the original, I appreciated how they kind f toughened it up a bit for the gang members. I feel like the 2021 version was just in general much more grounded.

  • @jhartley8441
    @jhartley8441 3 года назад +161

    2 changes stand out: the placement of "I feel Pretty" crushed me cuz Maria wasn't aware of what had already happened.
    Faist' fine acting as Riff. He BECOMES that squirrely punk with no future.
    I hope one day we watch a biopic of Rachel Z. on how she went from a 14-year old being videoed by her mom singing at a Broadway flea market to absolutely winning our hearts in SS's WSS. [and she can dub for whoever plays her on screen!]

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 года назад +2

      And how she hates the police and wants them defunded?

    • @jennyparkoo
      @jennyparkoo 2 года назад +12

      @@colleen4ever that’s not an unpopular opinion lol go cry about it

    • @colleen4ever
      @colleen4ever 2 года назад

      @@jennyparkoo Excuse me, my cousin is a cop thank you!! AND HE IS NOT RACIST AND NEITHER IS ANYONE IS OUR LUTHERAN FAMILY!!! AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITHOUT COPS IF YOUR HOUSE GETS BROKEN INTO AND ROBBERS STEAL ALL YOUR STUFF, HMM? OR A RELATIVE OF YOURS GETS ATTACKED AND MUGGED OR RAPED, WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN?!

    • @jennyparkoo
      @jennyparkoo 2 года назад +19

      @@colleen4ever i don’t care that ur cousin is a cop lol

    • @cgm530
      @cgm530 2 года назад +7

      ​@@colleen4ever i don't really support defunding the police either, but i don't think you understand what it means. almost no one wants the police entirely disbanded. violent crime & theft clearly require police prevention. but some of the very large extant police budget could be redirected toward other state organisations which target the root causes of crime.

  • @kevinivers
    @kevinivers 2 года назад +14

    The humanization and complexity of Riff’s emotional desperation and hopelessness was so vivid in the 2021 version.

  • @josephhillyard3040
    @josephhillyard3040 3 года назад +348

    The thing that delighted me the most about the new adaptation of West Side Story is how Spielberg and company managed to add their own touches to the classic sequences instead of making them feel like carbon copies of the 1961 film. From small things like how Anita is the one who initiates the mambo music during "Dance at the Gym" to larger ones like the restaging of "America" in order to expand upon the social themes in the song. They obviously pay homage to the work of Wise and Robbins but add their own thrilling reinventions to the material.
    I also thought including the history of San Juan Hill into the movie did a lot to add stakes for the characters. The back and forth argument between Bernardo and Anita about life in America carries a lot more weight when they're literally watching their lives upended as a result of the systemic racism that has always been part of life in the United States.

  • @jwilste
    @jwilste 2 года назад +36

    We should point out how utterly pointless it would be remaking a classic film and making it exactly the same. So what do we really want in a new version of a movie as spectacular as the 1961 West Side Story? We want a movie that delivers all the sixty years of advancement in film making. It's okay to attempt to right the mistakes, if any, of the original because your work will exist as a sign of its time. And you can't bring ask creative people to make replicas, you want them to create. Spielberg's West Side Story does all that. Wisely what changes the least is the Bernstein, Sondheim music.

  • @chrisparkes
    @chrisparkes 3 года назад +122

    I absolutely LOVED Spielberg’s interpretation. It’s so cinematic.
    On my first viewing I struggled a bit with Ansel’s performance, as it seemed he was singing at the edge of his abilities, whereas the rest of the cast felt effortless. On second viewing his performance gelled much better, and I felt he added some really key touches: you understand why his own violence frightens him.

    • @johannalamb4022
      @johannalamb4022 3 года назад +8

      Agreed. For some reason the second time I watched the movie I liked Ansel as Tony much better.

    • @janebarry-fraundorf4623
      @janebarry-fraundorf4623 2 года назад

      I loved him EQUALLY EVERY time and thought he was an absolutely PHENOMENAL Tony!
      Interesting! 🤔

  • @novisna
    @novisna 3 года назад +339

    I think with both versions the main problem for me are Tony and Maria and their lack of chemistry, you have to believe that these two are so in love and in lust that Maria would forgive Tony for Bernardo's murder and run away with him, I think Richard and Natalie have more chemistry than Rachel and that guy. I wish they would have gone for an unknown for Tony too or at least someone with more charm and wonder, and Rachel was great but I think she just needed a little bit more acting experience especially in the last scene, Natalie Wood in that scene is absolutely devastating. In the end the ones who always shine more are Anita, Bernardo and Riff. Keep doing you BKR :)

    • @zdoriksandorik
      @zdoriksandorik 3 года назад +60

      I feel like in both films Maria and Tony ARE the problem, and i wonder if they are also a weak spot in stage adaptations

    • @vivianh6315
      @vivianh6315 3 года назад +33

      Yes I wanted a few more scenes of Maria and Tony, seeing them even have casual conversations and getting to know one another even more. Like we heard about Tony’s troubled past but I wanted to know more about the character’s personalities too. I wanted their chemistry to build. I feel like we got to know Anita’s character quite well though with her passion of sewing, how she’s hard working, confident, strong, sassy and is honest, doesn’t sugar coat her thoughts.

    • @dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
      @dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 3 года назад +37

      I wonder if a part of the issue is the source material? Juliet was barely into her teens; Romeo may have been... 20? At most? The "love at first sight" thing works best with hormonal teenagers, potentially... people who have not formed a capacity for more complex judgement, necessarily, but who may simply be swayed by a strong physical attraction. At least, this gives them a "let-out" for the subsequently highly heightened nature of their intense reactions to their situation...
      In a different age, this could make total sense (especially with the lingering influence of an ideal of "chivalrous" and "pure" love). In late 50s New York, I'm not so sure :-/

    • @zdoriksandorik
      @zdoriksandorik 3 года назад +40

      @@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 I truly think that audiences might be willing to forgive the unrealistic part about love at first sight, but in both film versions the male is just....there. they're not charming, they have to chemistry with the actress and at best are a piece of wood, at worst - a singing one

    • @dontbefatuousjeffrey2494
      @dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 3 года назад +4

      @@zdoriksandorik A singing prop. I get that. And it's a shame 😞

  • @violetslit
    @violetslit 3 года назад +31

    Rachel Zegler was in Shrek the Musical??? Absolute queen

  • @darthcass1210
    @darthcass1210 3 года назад +9

    A couple of people in the comments have mentioned this already but the change that really struck with me was how Chino was handled in the new movie. I really appreciate how he was a character rather than a prop for tragedy. The second he was introduced in the new movie as this sweet young man who's getting into accounting and really seems like he has a good future ahead of him, my immediate thought, having seen the original movie, was "oh no, this poor kid" and I loved that

  • @vincentvangogodancer
    @vincentvangogodancer 3 года назад +19

    OMG posted 7 minutes ago with hundreds of views already. I'm glad others are enjoying your content like me! Thanks for all your hard work

    • @JulianSteve
      @JulianSteve 3 года назад +1

      I am late, but I am here and finished this masterpiece of a video.

  • @fad23
    @fad23 3 года назад +129

    For me a major difference in the films is the way that music is used. With 2021 I felt like the major emotional hits came in the dialogue performances. For me the music served less as a pure expression of the emotion of the scene and more like the cushion those emotions rested on after they exploded.

    • @samlai6880
      @samlai6880 2 года назад +3

      really interesting comment! Don't know if that's exactly how I felt, but it definitely puts to words something that felt different about this version

    • @mrhyde5280
      @mrhyde5280 2 года назад +6

      Absolutely. The 2021 version doesn't trust the amazing music enough, and tries to explain too much.

  • @rklman567
    @rklman567 3 года назад +14

    One thing I couldn't shake afterr watching the Spielberg version was, as far as the story allowed, there were much stronger character arcs for the women in the story. For example, seeing Graziella thrown out before Anita's confrontation with the Jets, and the look on her face as she struggled to try and prevent what she knew was about to happen and silently seeing her anguish outside thru the store windows, that was incredibly powerful, With the Valentina role/switch with Doc, with the gendered seating at the police station causing Anybody's such discomfort, I found myself often looking at the gender story underneath the racial one, and in fact when it comes to streaming I want to rewatch specifically to pick up on that. Great commentary, btw, subscribed as a result

  • @fad23
    @fad23 3 года назад +95

    I appreciated the inclusion of the gentrification in the narrative, but also wish that it paid off in a clear emotional way rather than as something I had to extrapolate for emotional context.

    • @bkrewind
      @bkrewind  3 года назад +18

      This is close to how I felt about it!

    • @soaribb32
      @soaribb32 3 года назад

      Maybe they did to add another to Maria's brother's death.

    • @fad23
      @fad23 3 года назад +14

      Where I sit now is that it can be read as a way of highlighting how little this fight over turf means. The entirety of the violence here is especially pointless. I was wishing we would have had just a bit of a reminder how pointless this was in context.

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 3 года назад +2

      @@fad23 The meaningless of the turf wars was one aspect of the remake I really like- I believe Bernardo even has a line mentioning how senseless the fighting is.

    • @TheoryGuy83
      @TheoryGuy83 3 года назад +6

      I loved the inclusion but disagree to an extent. To me, paying it off in-narrative would have robbed it of its power. It's a looming threat, not a currently-present one in the setting of the story, and by the end realizing that it was all for nothing and that in a few years NONE of them will be there, makes it more meaningful to me. I think spelling out the tragedy-to-come wouldn't be nearly as effecting.
      The price paid for that, of course, is that some people won't pick up on it, but I think that's inevitable in art of any kind.

  • @MonotremeFilms
    @MonotremeFilms 3 года назад +60

    The visuals in the new version really stood out to me. Obviously the original has a very distinct look of a Hollywood musical at the time - stylized in a way that is dated in a very particular way when watched today. The new version somehow managed to strike a balance between modern and a pastiche/throwback to classic musicals, that results in an overall look and feel that is truly timeless. It's maybe my favorite aspect of a film that I adore so much else about as well.

    • @bobbyj-x7v
      @bobbyj-x7v 2 месяца назад

      Time will tell if it is timeless, in the future - they'll be naysayers of this version too.

  • @eleanorcopp9010
    @eleanorcopp9010 3 года назад +102

    Damn, I feel like the only one who hated the new placement of 'Cool'. I absolutely love the intense, stagey-ness of the 1961 version; it really hits hard and you get into the minds of the Jets after the rumble. It's, in my opinion, one of the most powerful and my personal favourite number in the whole show. In the 2021 version it just felt flat and unnecessary. I generally enjoyed the remake, but I couldn't help but feel like the score - the thing that makes West Side Story so immersive and iconic - was an afterthought to the creative team. It's a good movie and I loved the casting of actual Latina actors, but it somehow fell slightly flat and I left the cinema feeling underwhelmed.

    • @sylvia2296
      @sylvia2296 2 года назад +8

      I totally agree with you!

    • @fringelilyfringelily391
      @fringelilyfringelily391 2 года назад +15

      I agree ... the new "Cool" was nowhere near as intense as the stagey 1961 version. It was too contrived and unnecessarily elaborate ... also, I think the placement of "Cool" after the rumble works better ... plus, Tucker Smith had charisma to burn

    • @kaypieldee
      @kaypieldee 2 года назад +2

      I totally agree 100%. I actually like the new WSS in all, however "Cool" was the top of my placements in the film. Despite the couple minutes of beautiful choreography in the number, the song, contextually, is based around fear, not de-escalation. Other than that, enjoyed the film.

    • @bill3901
      @bill3901 2 года назад +6

      just came here to write that the placement of "Cool" is fantastic in the new film. It makes more sense to put it pre-rumble and sung by Tony...because after the rumble they are all pretty much fucked since I dont know - a couple of MURDERS took place, lol

    • @adriennepender673
      @adriennepender673 2 года назад +5

      Thank God it wasn’t just me, I agree 200%. I can sort of “get” why they moved it before the rumble-but it’s so much more powerful AFTER, when the Jets are in shock, and angry, and frenzied, and trying to get their bearings. All of the power of Cool is gone by moving it earlier.

  • @ashleighcalvert8937
    @ashleighcalvert8937 3 года назад +14

    God the Gym Scene always has such INCREDIBLE choreo in both versions! It was my favorite part of both films

  • @B.Arthur
    @B.Arthur 3 года назад +10

    My god, you really are the gift that keeps on giving! Everytime you post, it adds 5 years to my life. Thanks SO much, Izzy, I hope you enjoy the holidays and manage to relax!

  • @Buffy8Fan
    @Buffy8Fan Год назад +2

    Thank you for not just dissing on the one you thought wasn't as good. The best reviewers find something to enjoy even when the film is bad. In both 161 and 2021 movies, I enjoyed how each of them portrayed things for the in-universe period _and_ for the time period of each movie's real life release eras.

  • @swikarkalden
    @swikarkalden 3 года назад +8

    It's 2:37 am in the UK, I've been struggling to sleep all night. You've got no idea how happy this notification made me!!!

  • @shelleynobleart
    @shelleynobleart 3 года назад +6

    Man, you talk good. I mean, holy cow, each essay is the most articulate thing I've heard.

  • @RichBiev
    @RichBiev 3 года назад +70

    I thought that tracking the gun that kills Tony, from Riff's purchase through Chino shooting Tony was among the most brilliant touches. Backstories however seemed pasted on. It's like speaking subtext. We don't always need to be told. Let backstory inform the character and don't feel it necessary to tell us.

    • @PaulSmith-is2tt
      @PaulSmith-is2tt 3 года назад +5

      Show, don't tell: that's a basic writing tenet. All the backstories made it feel like one of those live action Dr Suess movies.

  • @musiciansixty
    @musiciansixty 2 года назад +9

    The main difference that I noticed in the newest version of West Side Story was when Rita Moreno sang "Somewhere." In my mind, it radically changed the whole point of the story. We were no longer looking at a couple who were trying to find acceptance to a whole race of people searching for equality. I think this was contrary to the original pupose of the musical which was to mirror Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet story.

  • @Ojitoverde
    @Ojitoverde 3 года назад +89

    The thing that "kinda" bothers me of the new version was that they cut out the best and basically all the dancing moments of the sharks (the male members), like... Bernardo was the extra of extras in this new version 😂

    • @reikun86
      @reikun86 3 года назад +32

      Facts. The Sharks were the better dancers in the 1961 version - hands down.

    • @jackierosas9593
      @jackierosas9593 3 года назад +25

      The Jets had more songs, but the Sharks’ dancing was highlighted more so it felt more balanced compared to the new version.

    • @tomboyle7068
      @tomboyle7068 2 года назад

      Anti-suicide Selfie Song ( Sing It To Yourself ) ruclips.net/video/RqJqyzq2mMU/видео.html

  • @kellie8468
    @kellie8468 3 года назад +9

    You’re spoiling us ! I didn’t expect another video so soon . Three in a short period of time. I love the content in all of them.

  • @robertobrion874
    @robertobrion874 3 года назад +3

    I was 13 when I saw WSS with my dad. Now my daughter is coming with me this weekend to see the new version. Incidentally, I shared your caparable version to my friends. Thanks very much. New subscriber.

  • @jessepretorius1456
    @jessepretorius1456 2 года назад +3

    Your commentary and analysis is amazing as always. My favourite change is how great Mike Faust is as Riff, who ostensibly is a fine character in the original. Here, he’s magnetic, terrifying and steals the movie from anyone that isn’t Ariana. The smile he gives when he gets stabbed is so chilling

  • @marrabalmer2917
    @marrabalmer2917 3 года назад +14

    West Side Story is hands down my favorite movie. I credit that movie for getting me into musical theater in high school, so I was very nervous to hear it was being remade. I saw the remake opening day and was blown away by how good it was. The additional scenes and character backstories made it feel more like a movie and not just a musical that was turned into a movie. The placement of One Hand, One Heart in the 2021 version was a beautifully done and I may or may not have started tearing up in the theater, haha. I also want to comment on how visually appealing the remake is, especially with the usage of color scheme for the Jets and the Sharks during the dance at the gym scene.

    • @philipkuttner7945
      @philipkuttner7945 2 года назад +3

      Yes, the placement of One Hand, One Heart reminds us that Tony, from a Polish family, is a Catholic too. It's one thing he and Maria share. Speaking of color scheme, did you notice the two neon signs in the final moments? One blue, the other red.

  • @Farmeryeti
    @Farmeryeti 3 года назад +21

    I had never seen West Side Story before seeing this new version in the movie theater (I knew about Maria, Tonight and the menacing clicking but that's about it) and I have to say I LOVED it. I'll be sure to go back to the '61 version at some point but I had a great time with this one.

  • @eduardoalegriarampante639
    @eduardoalegriarampante639 3 года назад +44

    Im a 53 year old puertorican from the island.
    As much as i adore Spielberg, and Kushner, and the unbeliavable orchestration of the score, i left the theater feeling like...why?...I just dont think it's a material to be remade. The attempts only softened the problems a bit, i feel.
    Still, sure, there was some lovelyness there.
    Love your channel, btw !

    • @RJKookie
      @RJKookie 2 года назад +3

      My dad saw the original in the Phillipines when it first released and it was such a smash hit but once he watched the remake with me he also asked ... but why?? The 1961 is a classic and doesn't need a remake. I actually agree and love the original and think the remake dragged a bit. Good attempt but not a towering cinematic achievement.

    • @izzybitsyspider03
      @izzybitsyspider03 Год назад

      At least in the new version, Chino is a human being with feelings and thoughts. Not just a cop out Puerto Rican villain...

  • @Elisaoverhere
    @Elisaoverhere 3 года назад +14

    I love these videos from you! I first discovered this channel from your comparisons of the versions of 'A Star is Born' and you really do a great job of breaking down the intricacies of whatever you're talking about.

  • @mimimirie
    @mimimirie 2 года назад +11

    This was the history I was dying to know about! I love the inclusion of the Lincoln Center/gentrification context in the new movie and I'm so glad you broke down the history of the show and the west side. It also adds color to the story because ultimately neither gang wins. I'm still a much bigger fan of the original and had to rewatch it immediately after the new one. It has such clear visual language and even without the sound on, I can always understand who is who, what is going on, and what they're feeling. The new one was beautiful to look at but also felt muddled, less impactful- like so much cinematic grandeur but it would take me a while to know what I was seeing, and this would affect the emotional resonance for me. Maybe as a POC, I already felt the racial hostility in the original story and didn't need all the extra expositional dialogue of 2021's. Instead, I needed to feel and see their pain and anguish, and the original is so successful at it!

  • @buzzawuzza3743
    @buzzawuzza3743 3 года назад +20

    All of the cars in the modern version are shiny clean Hollywood phonies. In 1961 they look real. The slickness of stuff like this takes me out of a movie.

    • @user-um4hi9bc2k
      @user-um4hi9bc2k 3 года назад +11

      i notice this a lot in period movies, that the cars are all way too nice. I kind of came to the conclusion that it's because all the classic cars that still exist only work because they were well maintained. All the 1960's jalopies are rotting in landfills or got recycled into new stuff. The only old cars we have to work with now are probably used in car shows and worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the owners are not gonna let some movie man dirty them up. To make a replica of an old fashioned car, even if you intentionally make it shitty, is expensive as hell. If you want ambiance from them driving down the street, and you want enough to replicate an actual city, then it'll eat way too much of the movie's time and budget.

  • @grbear01
    @grbear01 2 года назад +5

    I loved the new West Side Story for so many reasons. We got to learn a lot more about the characters and their motivations and I think it made the story a lot stronger. One change I didn’t like was in Maria’s monologue at the end after Tony dies. In the original she says “You all killed him, and my brother, and Riff. Not with bullets and guns. With hate! Well I can kill too, because now I have hate!”, and this very clearly lays out the theme of the story and to me is a very iconic line. In the 2021 version she just says “I can kill now because I hate now” which is a lot less poignant and the exact meaning of that line isn’t very clear without the context of what she says in the original. I would have kept the line the same.

  • @angelodimichino3620
    @angelodimichino3620 3 года назад +3

    What A thorough and informative video, What I love about this movie is the casting, for me each role was perfectly cast and the fact that none of them were dubbed makes it even more special. This is a very sincere movie and respects the stage version wholeheartedly as well as opening it up cinematically

  • @GA-1st
    @GA-1st 3 года назад +43

    That was the best and most comprehensive examination of the two movies I've seen thus far on YT. From my perspective, the Spielberg inclusion of the Moses expropriation and displacement of impoverished racial and ethnic minorities was the highlight of his "updating" of the narrative. It provides a welcome, if not essential, context and insight into the stakes and common struggle experienced by both "gangs." Despite the fact that WSS was at the forefront of a nascent realism entering American cinema in the early '60s, it didn't really come to fruition until the demise of the Hays Code in 1968 and the American "new wave." And yet, the impact of the attempted gang rape scene was nonetheless far more traumatic in the Robert Wise version than depicted in Spielberg's ostensibly unfettered "post-modern era" iteration. An odd choice, indeed, to water down the brutality of such a violent encounter to nothing more than the cinematic equivalent of a rude remark. Be that as it may, I still like this new iteration a great deal overall. It will never, however, supplant the Wise/Robbins production. Yeah, the former may be more "realistic," but realism is not, and never has been, an inherent quality of a superior film.

    • @reikun86
      @reikun86 3 года назад +9

      That scene broker my heart because Anita was trying to help Maria, despite how torn she was about losing Bernardo. I read that when they film that scene, Rita Moreno was really upset afterwards because she was assaulted when she was younger.

    • @chalkeev
      @chalkeev 3 года назад +4

      thanks for this! Your final sentence is so important when comparing the two movies. WSS doesn't need to be super realistic IMO

    • @SunRhe
      @SunRhe 3 года назад +1

      It's funny how the praise of the 1961 film focused on it's realism, meanwhile when comparing it to the new version the praise is on the aspects that made it "unrealistic". There was such a great balance between the two in the original, whereas this version seems confused. At times the changes, like the scene you mention, feel watered-down and artificial where others totally land with their "realism".

    • @margicates553
      @margicates553 2 года назад +1

      Rape scenes are pretty much always traumatic.
      And there are a lot of people who can’t watch those scenes because of past horrors.
      If it’s too watered down for you, consider yourself lucky.
      I don’t understand this cultures obsession with watching women brutalized.
      Having a realistic rape scene, doesn’t raise the stakes, doesn’t shed light on the hopeless young jets, doesn’t change Anita’s grief.
      The scene was powerful, even more so because Rita got to save herself this time.
      Because it focused on the jets girlfriends, because it forced everybody to see how men can become monsters.
      Just like that.

  • @acecosmonaut5559
    @acecosmonaut5559 3 года назад +4

    When you mentioned that Cher had her own version of The West Side Story, I paused the vid to go and watch it. Now I'm back and it DID NOT disappoint.

  • @kianparas7974
    @kianparas7974 3 года назад +5

    2 videos in 2 weeks? It really is the season of giving, thank you! Folks, join her Patreon!

  • @damiedo
    @damiedo 3 года назад +23

    Something that I think shows the contrast between casting in 1961 and present day is the casting of the new Disney princesses (Rachel Zegler as Snowhite and Halle Bailey as Ariel). Not only does is it show the double threat aspect that you mention, but also pushes the boundaries on who gets to be in the limelight and what we consider when it comes to casting.

  • @tricivenola8164
    @tricivenola8164 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for this. I loved the added depth to the stories in the 2021 version, also the richer staging in the streets. The only piece I felt lacked luster in 2021 was "I Feel Pretty." They left out those goofy "La La Las" that Maria gives in the 1961 version, which flattened it. The other thing that took some getting used to was the phrasing. The 1961 version is full of pauses in the holding of the notes, but the notes in the 2021 version are all evenly spaced. Rita Moreno's appearance is just perfect. Spielberg is a spectacular film maker. I've never seen an update or remake I liked better.

  • @anotherfilmfrog2180
    @anotherfilmfrog2180 3 года назад +7

    Absolutely love your videos. So calming, well contextualised, researched and written.

    • @slc2466
      @slc2466 3 года назад

      Agree- no one else is bringing up Montgomery Clift had the idea for WSS, you have to find that stuff out at Be Kind Rewind.

  • @gpapa31
    @gpapa31 3 года назад +24

    Spielberg and his team absolutely killed it with the new version, absolutely brilliant on every single count - Cinematography, choreography, casting (Ansel’s exception), music, editing, screenplay everything. ONLY major wrinkle, the ending (last 5-7 mins of the film). Ansel’s reaction to Maria’s news was so cartoonish I almost started laughing and I found Rachel’s lack of devastation at Tony’s death disturbing. I thought it was emotionally flat and didn’t deliver the gut punch I felt with Natalie Wood (although I didn’t cry in that one either but still). I wish there was a way for Spielberg to go back and reshot those last 5-7 minutes of the film and make it as emotionally impactful as E.T. And you’ve got the absolute perfect version of WSS.

    • @lucyfoster4082
      @lucyfoster4082 3 года назад

      Agree

    • @littlemissblackdress7587
      @littlemissblackdress7587 2 года назад +1

      Ansel is as great as the rest of the cast, too bad you don’t realise this.

    • @kateryan5045
      @kateryan5045 2 года назад +2

      I completely agree about the ending. I was so disappointed after a mostly great movie. I even went and immediately watched the ending of the 1961 just so I could see it done so well. I felt like the flaw in the ending is that it felt like it had been cut down to almost nothing. Several lines cut, no lingering silences. Those looks Natalie Wood gives to all the gang members after she yells at them like she just wants to understand and all they can do is turn away. And the music just hammers home that gut punch. The original ending is perfection. Just drop that onto the new film with no changes!

  • @cincinnatikidstuff
    @cincinnatikidstuff 2 года назад +7

    I don't know how they did it, but the music seemed new to me. I grew up with WWS and this version was like all new music to me. My only complaint is I wish there was more dancing, but this is an incredible movie.

  • @r-t9266
    @r-t9266 3 года назад +5

    Nous sommes là et votre prononciation est impeccable !
    Merci pour votre travail et cette super vidéo.

  • @tastywaffle
    @tastywaffle 2 года назад +2

    Another fantastic episode, Isabel! I just saw the new version for the first time last Thursday on Disney+, and I absolutely loved it! I love the original film, and I was happy to see that the new version is not just a rehash of the 1961 version. Like you, I was a bit skeptical when I first heard about this project, but Steven Spielberg continues to demonstrate his incredible talent even when I think his glory days might be behind him. I really admired the changes to the context of the film with the addition of the Lincoln Center construction, as well as many other changes that really worked for me. I really love the addition of Rita Moreno's Valentina. I've never liked it when remakes feel the need to include pointless cameos from the original cast, but this was much more than a cameo; the character is fully realized and is a great addition to the story. And I absolutely LOOOOOVED the staging of "America", particularly with the vibrancy of the cinematography and costumes. If it wins the Oscars in those categories, I'll be pretty happy. Speaking of Oscars, Ariana DeBose would absolutely be my choice for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress. If she wins, it won't just be a gimmick to parallel Rita Moreno's win in '61, but a legitimately well-deserved award. Keep up the good work! You are awesome!

  • @pagano60
    @pagano60 3 года назад +35

    If you ever want to torture your ears, listen to Pierce Brosnan in "Mama Mia!" His casting in the film is still a mystery to me.

    • @reikun86
      @reikun86 3 года назад +7

      No! No! 2021 was a hard year already! 😭

    • @itspronounceddie8129
      @itspronounceddie8129 3 года назад +5

      PLEASE ITS SO BAD

    • @katynstevensmom
      @katynstevensmom 3 года назад +4

      And Russell Crowe in Les Mis.

    • @pagano60
      @pagano60 3 года назад +1

      @@katynstevensmom - BKR mentions Crowe as Javert in her video. Speaking for myself, by the time "Les Miz" was over, I thought Crowe's voice was kina-sorta okay - not great, but listenable. (Still, why they didn't cast the role with a singer is beyond me.) Brosnan has done some terrific acting work in other projects, but his casting in "Mama Mia!" was a bad call, in my view.

    • @adlegacy56
      @adlegacy56 2 года назад

      Why anyone would make a movie version of "Mamma Mia" is a mystery to me!

  • @abnerdupuis7110
    @abnerdupuis7110 3 года назад +20

    They made Maria too independent. In a real person, that's an admirable quality. However, West Side Story needs a Tony and Maria who in love to the point of being self-destructive. Tony is willing to die for Maria while Maria is still considering whether or not to go on a second date.
    That's not saying that Elgort did a flawless job or that Tony was perfectly written for the new movie. Neither are true. The new film is very flawed, but I think the changes they made to Maria are the most serious. They just break the film's logic.

  • @bellamaz1972
    @bellamaz1972 3 года назад +4

    I love your channel and I clicked on this video faster than Maria and Tony fell in love.
    Saw and loved Spielberg’s version asap; will probably rewatch this more than the older but will always appreciate the older. I’ve seen more amateur productions than I can remember.

  • @josecolon4234
    @josecolon4234 3 года назад +2

    I can say like many have seen both versions. Both have been totally worth watching. In the segment "Tonight " when everyone intertwined on the events that were about to happen. When Anita sang about getting her kicks in a church while there were some ladles praying had me in the brink of cracking up.
    Rita Moreno's role in the new version was totally compassionate. She definitely expressed the love of two different ethnicities. She stood out as being Tony's mentor about falling in love. I know the odds are in receiving and Oscar nomination, but I hope the Academy gives her an Honorary Oscar for her lifetime achievements in films. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night 🎄🎅🤗🎁💚❤

  • @bdeitur
    @bdeitur 3 года назад +6

    Since you asked, here are my initial impressions...
    I had reservations watching the opening. For me, nothing can hold a candle to seeing Russ Tamblin lead the Jets in at the start of the '61 version. However, when they got to the the dance scene where Tony sees Maria it really took off. It's a lot grittier than the original. And the Puerto Rican characters had much more depth.
    Despite my lack of skill in Spanish (as a 2nd generation Puerto Rican/Italian who only speaks English), I also appreciated the absence of subtitles. That seemed to give more import to the lives of the characters. Definitely worth the price of admission. 👍

  • @perelandrawaddle
    @perelandrawaddle 2 года назад +1

    Hi, proffessional dancer here. You use the term ballet to refer to the choreography of the films but I would say it fits better in the category of "Jazz dance". It uses harsher, straighter lines, sharper movements and the rhythms are represented in a more syncopated way. Fosse is usually pinned as the pioneer of this type of movement but it truly originated from African American choreographers. West Side Story was really one of the most influential professions in Jazz dance history because most movie musicals before this stayed in the realm of ballroom and tap dance. This really showed how as music is getting more complicated and syncopated that dancing should reflect this.

  • @k_drive
    @k_drive 3 года назад +60

    so interesting to hear the 61 version was considered uniquely realistic for its time cause when i saw it as a kid, it was one of the first musicals from that era i saw and i couldnt get over how corny the snaps and dancing seemed. i think id have a better appreciation for it now lol but its so true that an audience today probably wouldn't have been prepared to see something similar again

    • @pearldiver6949
      @pearldiver6949 2 года назад +6

      It’s more realistic in terms of the set/costumes/plot, they’re not referring to the actual singing & dancing. To some extent nearly all musicals will be detached from reality because they contain non-diegetic musical numbers.

  • @ikexbankai
    @ikexbankai 3 года назад +2

    I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE THIS VIDEO!!!!! I JUST KNEW IT! I didn’t have to comment or ask you!!! Thank You! Your content is just sooooooo good

  • @LosArchivosdeRigo
    @LosArchivosdeRigo 3 года назад +13

    I’ve been debating all week if i should go watch the remake. This video really encouraged me to purchase a ticket. They better be sponsoring you! 😩

  • @rubydoo3307
    @rubydoo3307 2 года назад

    I've only ever seen parts of the older version of this film, but I really will be watching them both now. You've done a better job of selling it than the marketing budget of the film!

  • @jeffwatkins352
    @jeffwatkins352 3 года назад +5

    I'm 69, so had the privilege of seeing the 1961 film on its initial release. It changed my life. I came to the Spielberg version very dubiously but am delighted to say it's wonderful. It reinstates a few snippets of the music dropped from the first film, and its script is in many ways a big improvement on the earlier film. My two criticisms are minor. While I think the way it handles Cool is clever and effective, it loses the bone-jarring intensity of the 1961 film's approach. While it was a luminously brilliant decision to have Moreno sing Somewhere, because of that change Maria unfortunately couldn't sing its reprise as Tony dies, and Tonight just doesn't feel right there. Personally, I'd have opted instead for some part of One Hand, One Heart. That said, I now have two incandescent WSS movies to treasure. And my tears still aren't dry over the loss of Sondheim. Thank you, SS2, for making the last years of SS1's life so rewarding.

  • @deg3363
    @deg3363 3 года назад +15

    Ariana DeBose! Hands down. Her part made this version SHINE. If she doesn't get a Oscar nod there is no Justice in the World.

  • @bartmann81
    @bartmann81 3 года назад +14

    I love the new West Side Story very much, but have some minor notes.
    I do feel that putting I Feel Pretty back at it's original place from the stage production (right after The Rumble), only proves that it was the right decicion in the 1961 version to sing it earlier (before One Hand, One Heart). The lightness of the song doesn't work witht the dark tone the story has just taken.
    Altough, I do think that the new interpretation of Cool is inspired, it also comes at a prize. It puts Tony in a frame of mind that doesn't quite match with his mood in the Tonight Quintet that follows immediately after Cool. And in shear excecution Gee, Officer Krubke in the 1961 version is unmatched.
    That said, I love the new version for the reasons you mention in this video: the broader social context, the Latino casting, the gender switch with Doc/Valentina. And I do think Spielberg's musical numbers are a worthy succesor to those of Wise and Robbins.
    And I do think that Ansel Elgort in an improvement on Richard Beymer. Altough that may sound like daming with faint praise, you never believed Beymer as a former gang member who is just about to grow up, you do get that feeling with Elgort.

  • @lisapierce-goldstein81
    @lisapierce-goldstein81 3 года назад +8

    I highly recommend the documentary 'The Opera House' for anyone who wants to learn more about the creation of Lincoln Center, including the destruction of the neighborhood in which West Side Story takes place, by Robert Moses under the auspices of 'slum clearance'. The documentary does a very good job of covering the whole process, from the passage of federal legislation that allowed Moses to do what he did, to the geopolitical climate at the time, to the voices of people who were displaced. It's an amazing documentary and an excellent investigation into New York City in the 1950s and 60s. Leonard Bernstein even appears in a clip in which the New York Phil plays at the ground breaking ceremony of the site prior to the initiation of construction of Lincoln Center. People involved were either interviewed (most prominently, Leontyne Price, the great American soprano who performed at the opening of the new Met in1966) or profiled (Robert Moses, Sir Rudolph Bing, general manager of the Metropolitan Opera at the time). It's a great companion piece to any West Side Story fan that wants a more in depth look at the time period.

  • @DemiSemme
    @DemiSemme 3 года назад +147

    I liked the changes made to Anybodys - big fan of Iris Menas and want to see hir do well after getting screwed over by jagged little pill, and it's always good to get trans/nonbinary representation acknowledged and elevated; but I think Spielberg and Kusher dropped the ball by continuing the tradition of not having a Puerto Rican or Latine screenwriter on the team. The changes Kushner makes are interesting, and do feel like an improvement in some places, but at times, it still felt somewhat voyeuristic at times when it came to the Sharks. I also wasn't a fan of the *alleged* sex predator playing the love interest, but in seeing the film, it's clear why they couldn't reshoot, especially in covid conditions (I still believe Gabby and the others who have come forward).

    • @GREVIEWS02
      @GREVIEWS02 3 года назад +20

      The news came out too late into the production.

    • @lohphat
      @lohphat 3 года назад +21

      Alleged, not convicted. If she can make public allegations on Twitter, she can make a statement to a DA for prosecution.
      From the Variety article:
      "Another complicating factor is that the entire episode unfolded exclusively over social media. Within days of her original post to Twitter, the woman deleted the tweet, shut down her account and has not posted about it since. Elgort also deleted the Instagram post with his response. Other women have since posted to Twitter alleging that Elgort made inappropriate overtures to them over social media when they were underage, with screengrabs that appear to support their claims. But Elgort has not commented on those allegations; no one else has accused Elgort of anything similar to the original assault allegation; and none of the allegations against him have been independently corroborated."

    • @DemiSemme
      @DemiSemme 3 года назад +7

      He admitted it though. He confirmed he had a relationship with a 17-year-old when he was 20. That's enough of a line crossed that I believe Gabby and the others who have come forward. And for all we know, they HAVE tried to give statements to a prosecutor, and either those statements have not been made public because they were thrown out, or because there's an investigation pending very under the radar. Obviously, there must be some weight to it, given how much later marketing for the film tried to hide his presence, and how much the rest of the cast has avoided talking about him when they weren't contractually obligated to be around him for the press tour.

    • @GREVIEWS02
      @GREVIEWS02 3 года назад

      @@DemiSemme I only believe the first girl because of the photo the rest just seem fake.

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 3 года назад +6

      @@lohphat Everyone is so eager to become the American Taliban these days and punish the wicked. It's a real sickness. People no where near events jump on a bandwagon to burn the Witch...or in this case now it's the men. Same thing really. I believe everything bad about a story because some social media post told me what was what. And I know I'm better than you and deserve to voice my ignorant opinion to show my Virtue to everyone!

  • @SuperShiningDawn
    @SuperShiningDawn 3 года назад +1

    As a french speaker, you don't have to be sorry, your french is really good! Your R sound and your nasal sound (like ''on'' and ''en'') so, so good!

  • @marypagones6073
    @marypagones6073 3 года назад +27

    I am on Team No Dubbing. For me, the voice is such an important part of the character. I have the Julie Andrews My Fair Lady. Hire more “obscure” Broadway triple threats, please!

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 2 года назад

      You do realize that if Julie Andrews was brought on to reprise her role as Eliza Doolittle in the film adaptation of My Fair Lady, we wouldn’t have gotten her iconic performance as Mary Poppins?
      I’m sorry, but I just can’t imagine any other actress knocking it out of the park in the role of the beloved magical nanny like Julie Andrews.

    • @evangelistamono2200
      @evangelistamono2200 2 года назад +1

      @@hunterolaughlin You know who was originally considered for the role of Poppins? Debbie Reynolds. She turned it down to be cast in The Unsinkable Molly Brown

    • @hunterolaughlin
      @hunterolaughlin 2 года назад

      @@evangelistamono2200 I love Debbie Reynolds, but I prefer Julie Andrews being in the role of the original Mary Poppins.

  • @fabianhebestreit3240
    @fabianhebestreit3240 3 года назад +52

    For me, the change that stuck out the most, and was 100% influenced by the casting, was giving Somewhere to Rita Moreno. The 1961 version didn't really know what to do with the number either (it's a dream ballet on stage), but at least they gave it to Tony and Maria. This new version lets Rita Moreno sing it, and to me it felt like giving her the song just because it was the legend Rita Morena. Not giving her a song would have been like having Idina Menzel in Enchanted and not letting her sing all over again, something you just don't do, audiences expect Rita Moreno to sing when she appears in west Side Story. But it's also the only time that one of the adult characters gets to have a song, something that West Side Story pointedly has never done before. Taking a song about the hope for a better world from the naive youthful characters and giving it to the oldest character in the movie is a huge change (similarly, having One Hand One Heart in an actual chapel misses the playfulness of Tony and Maria's mock wedding), and it also changes the ending because we don't get the devastating reprise anymore, Maria just reprises Tonight when Tony dies. The new movie is a good adaptation overall, but for me, this one change just didn't work for me.

    • @chalkeev
      @chalkeev 3 года назад +7

      thanks, i felt the same

    • @hylasorenson8883
      @hylasorenson8883 3 года назад +4

      I agree. It fell flat for me amidst the multi character numbers and constant movement in the rest of the film. The second time I saw it I thought to myself “this is where I would run to the bathroom”

  • @sidneyburch2457
    @sidneyburch2457 3 года назад +9

    I saw the original when it came out. They can make a hundred remakes. The 1961 version will always remain the best.

  • @RaphealCartel
    @RaphealCartel 3 года назад +1

    This might be your shadiest video and I'm living for it.

  • @selectedshipper8282
    @selectedshipper8282 3 года назад +8

    “Angle Export” I’m dead

  • @leahgeller9988
    @leahgeller9988 3 года назад

    I adore West Side Story! I used to play the record as a kid and then try the choreography myself in the living room. I love both versions, however, I found the new version's camera was a bit too busy for my taste and found it undermined my ability to really see and enjoy the choreography. On the other hand, I love that Spielberg set the new version within the context of the "slum removal" and gentrification of the neighbourhood. Thank you for highlighting this point - I especially appreciated how you noted that the original was filmed in the actual rubble and empty streets resulting from the evictions.