You can use what is called a left and right couple. You could cut the pipe that you want to extend and replace the orginal couple with a left and right couple which you can get a 4 inch reversed thread nipple. Saves a lot of time and can be done in 5 to 10 min. I am lucky I haved a ridgid pipe threader machine. Pipefitter at Ambassador Fireplaces (piping).
One thing you might want to mention is when you tighten down each pipe, is that the pipes downstream will turn a little as unless you hold the immediate one downstream in place with another pipe wrench. Nice video. I find most homeowners are deathly afraid of touching any gas pipe. I have made a number of gas pipe changes over the years in my own home without any issues.
I only use to pipe dope but then I spent like 2 days chasing the smallest leak (it would have passed a regular leak test). After that I started taping (blue monster) and dope and will never go back. Give it try, threads together like butter. I dont know if its because its blue or named monster but its way better than the regular white/yellow tapes.
Wow black iron threaded pipe😮 That’s so 1990s! Here in Tokyo we have gone to flexible pipe with fittings on the end, much easier to install, and it’s flexible, and you know we have a lot of earthquakes 😊 I recently got my gas fitters license. I’m sure glad we don’t deal with the old iron pipe anymore. Cheers from Tokyo!
i sawzalled my black pipe to get apart. then got a new one when i replaced my water heater because was putting in shutoffs to service furnace and stove too. took the old cut pipes to home depot to have rethreaded on their machine to use as nipples else where.
Handyman, contractors in my area just use plastic straws and duct tape to feed gas into the homes. Sure it's not code, but the inspector usually doesn't get out of the truck
5:40 "RVs use flexible copper water pipe to run their gas lines" RV guy here. FYI, they use a full length of usually 1/2" black pipe for LP gas, then branch off with copper *refrigeration tubing* to each device such as furnace, range, water heater, and refrigerator. It's tougher and thicker walled than copper water pipe.
My local code allows the corrugated stainless or csst.. made things so easy to install, just have to make sure you purchase a good cutter to keep the ends clean
Just a quick point you can absolutely cut a pipe then unthread it from the fittings; you can then thread in new pipe with a Union or you can thread what you cut, removing enough additional pipe to fit the new fittings. I’ve used this technique a lot as it can be quite a time saver; plus in our jurisdiction if you touch it you own it so you have to do much more double checking of others old work. Flexible copper was and actually is still allowed for gas line under most jurisdictions building and fire codes, along with black and galvanized pipe, and corrugated stainless steel tubing.
About 10 seconds before you mentioned the problem of a leak, I was thinking of that same scenario with the same outcome as you. A solution to that "problem" would have been to add a union where you put that in line connector. Then a leak in either direction could have been addressed without whole line removal. You've never had a problem, but someone with less experience might find this useful in case of a leak.
Gas piping code does not allow unions in the runs between the meter and the appliances. Unions are common leak points. ruclips.net/video/xa0NnYe2_A8/видео.html
As per the national gas code, copper “tubing” is an approved material when used with brass flair fittings. Copper lines are usually used in homes using propane gas because the pressure is higher than natural gas, therefore the lines can be smaller. It’s not cost effective to use copper gas lines natural gas because the have to be bigger. 😎😉
Great video. Unions are nice to place for future adds or if you need to take apart for some reason. This job seems quite complicated. You are the man!!
Is it possible that a leak could occur at the double 90 junction that you moved slightly to get the angle correct, since it was moved without the sealant being replaced?
You better reinstall that half of the X brace you tore out, or the whole place could come down. Happened to a guy I know! Great video as always Handyman!
What pipe dope do you like for gas? And what soap water mix ratio? I have actually had to work on 2 very nice propane grills this month. And I work on cars. Lol
I'm not it would have helped you in this situation but sometimes it's less work to just cut the section that needs lengthened with a reciprocating saw. Replace the piece that you cut with two pieces and a union.
Sorry, if I was doing this job I would go to the supply house, pick up a left/right nipple. Cut the close nipple at the existing drop down, install the left right nipple with another nipple to get the length you need. No need to goto the end.
I agree, my Milwaukee propress and IPS jaws would have had that job done in 20 minutes. But that tool is a serious investment and the Mega press fittings are expensive as well, I just paid $30 for a 1"x1"x3/4" tee.
He could have cut that shipping coupling in half unthreaded. It added a union there extended the pipe over and moved that whole line over. He would have been done in an hour but who am I? I'm just a license technician
Did you perform a load calculation for the BTUs for that gas line? My problem with this. Is that someone's going to watch his video thinking that they could do the gas piping and probably end up having propane and under sizing their pipe feeding their systems. From what I could tell is you have a gas, water, hot water heater, a furnace, a dryer, and a stove on a 3/4 inch line. Best of luck😂
The ONLY thing I won't do to my own house is gas, partly because I don't have the energy to learn it safely anymore, and also because where I live it's illegal to work on gas if you aren't a licensed plumber. Although the last guy to install my gas stove used super outdated materials and didn't bring it up to code. Whatevers, sigh.
The tip is to shut off the gas, cut the gas pipe between fittings, move your pipe over and re thread with the sections you need, and connect with a union, test for leaks
Assuming you're doing a drywall ceiling? If so, they have pretty small access panels that can be painted ceiling white and would almost become invisible. Something to consider in the future if you wanted to save a ton of labor if presented with a similar problem again.
There is a fitting set that consists of a nipple that is threaded right hand on one end, and left hand on the other end, with a matching left-right threaded coupling that serves the same function of a union. It can be legally installed in a concealed location.
16:18 "Entertainment purposes only?" Using an angle grinder could be entertaining. Don't forget the match test. If the flame flickers, it means there's a gas leak. 😳🤔
WOW, you do enough plumbing to invest in a pro press. That job would have taken 40 min tops. Yes the fittings are pricy but the time you save is well worth it. To say nothing of the beating of the body.
You can use what is called a left and right couple. You could cut the pipe that you want to extend and replace the orginal couple with a left and right couple which you can get a 4 inch reversed thread nipple. Saves a lot of time and can be done in 5 to 10 min. I am lucky I haved a ridgid pipe threader machine. Pipefitter at Ambassador Fireplaces (piping).
One thing you might want to mention is when you tighten down each pipe, is that the pipes downstream will turn a little as unless you hold the immediate one downstream in place with another pipe wrench. Nice video. I find most homeowners are deathly afraid of touching any gas pipe. I have made a number of gas pipe changes over the years in my own home without any issues.
I only use to pipe dope but then I spent like 2 days chasing the smallest leak (it would have passed a regular leak test). After that I started taping (blue monster) and dope and will never go back. Give it try, threads together like butter. I dont know if its because its blue or named monster but its way better than the regular white/yellow tapes.
Wow black iron threaded pipe😮
That’s so 1990s!
Here in Tokyo we have gone to flexible pipe with fittings on the end, much easier to install, and it’s flexible, and you know we have a lot of earthquakes 😊
I recently got my gas fitters license.
I’m sure glad we don’t deal with the old iron pipe anymore.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Many places in Us are moving to flexible gas line
@@MookieMan1 good to know, thanks!
We use soldered copper in the UK for gas lines, 15mm / 22mm normally size depends on appliance etc.
i sawzalled my black pipe to get apart. then got a new one when i replaced my water heater because was putting in shutoffs to service furnace and stove too. took the old cut pipes to home depot to have rethreaded on their machine to use as nipples else where.
Handyman, contractors in my area just use plastic straws and duct tape to feed gas into the homes. Sure it's not code, but the inspector usually doesn't get out of the truck
Good work Handyman. When plumbing and leveling tees and 90s its helpful to use a 6" nipple and torpedo to get your fittings just right.
I'll show you a 6" nipple
Good tip!
5:40 "RVs use flexible copper water pipe to run their gas lines" RV guy here. FYI, they use a full length of usually 1/2" black pipe for LP gas, then branch off with copper *refrigeration tubing* to each device such as furnace, range, water heater, and refrigerator. It's tougher and thicker walled than copper water pipe.
I think that's how mine is ran. Thanks for the comment.
I just here for the comments.
My local code allows the corrugated stainless or csst.. made things so easy to install, just have to make sure you purchase a good cutter to keep the ends clean
@@freakofnatur101. . . and please don't google "csst fire" before installing . . .
Just a quick point you can absolutely cut a pipe then unthread it from the fittings; you can then thread in new pipe with a Union or you can thread what you cut, removing enough additional pipe to fit the new fittings. I’ve used this technique a lot as it can be quite a time saver; plus in our jurisdiction if you touch it you own it so you have to do much more double checking of others old work. Flexible copper was and actually is still allowed for gas line under most jurisdictions building and fire codes, along with black and galvanized pipe, and corrugated stainless steel tubing.
You can't put unions in the main gas supply and you also can't put unions in concealed ceilings. ruclips.net/video/xa0NnYe2_A8/видео.html
@@TheHandyman1 Oh SNAP! GO Handyman!!! ❤❤❤
About 10 seconds before you mentioned the problem of a leak, I was thinking of that same scenario with the same outcome as you. A solution to that "problem" would have been to add a union where you put that in line connector. Then a leak in either direction could have been addressed without whole line removal. You've never had a problem, but someone with less experience might find this useful in case of a leak.
Gas piping code does not allow unions in the runs between the meter and the appliances. Unions are common leak points. ruclips.net/video/xa0NnYe2_A8/видео.html
@@tallbrian100 Thanks for posting that comment with the link. I have had to explain this at least 6 times already in the comments.
Handy. I was purposely entertained, thanks!
I always enjoy your content. I have been remodeling contractor for 25 years.
Handyman is showing all his guns on this video. Awesome work.
As per the national gas code, copper “tubing” is an approved material when used with brass flair fittings. Copper lines are usually used in homes using propane gas because the pressure is higher than natural gas, therefore the lines can be smaller. It’s not cost effective to use copper gas lines natural gas because the have to be bigger. 😎😉
Great video. Unions are nice to place for future adds or if you need to take apart for some reason. This job seems quite complicated. You are the man!!
Is it possible that a leak could occur at the double 90 junction that you moved slightly to get the angle correct, since it was moved without the sealant being replaced?
Yes
Especially if the slight movement loosened the old joint rather than tightened it
Ahh but it didn't. 🎉
You better reinstall that half of the X brace you tore out, or the whole place could come down. Happened to a guy I know! Great video as always Handyman!
The Channel lock flip was epic
What pipe dope do you like for gas? And what soap water mix ratio? I have actually had to work on 2 very nice propane grills this month. And I work on cars. Lol
I myself havent used the soapy water method in years, I use a gas leak detector at every joint.
I'm not it would have helped you in this situation but sometimes it's less work to just cut the section that needs lengthened with a reciprocating saw. Replace the piece that you cut with two pieces and a union.
You can't conceal a union inside a ceiling
About to do the same with our reno. Lots of old gas lines coming out.
How long did he keep talking to a full camera at the end?
Sorry, if I was doing this job I would go to the supply house, pick up a left/right nipple. Cut the close nipple at the existing drop down, install the left right nipple with another nipple to get the length you need. No need to goto the end.
Mega press fittings come in handy for this situation.
I agree, my Milwaukee propress and IPS jaws would have had that job done in 20 minutes. But that tool is a serious investment and the Mega press fittings are expensive as well, I just paid $30 for a 1"x1"x3/4" tee.
Now you're cookin' with gas! Handy as always.
Have you considered,instead, to add a flanged spool for the extension?
He could have cut that shipping coupling in half unthreaded. It added a union there extended the pipe over and moved that whole line over. He would have been done in an hour but who am I? I'm just a license technician
Great show Handy. How do you know the lines are purged of gas before you disassemble the lines? Entertained as always. HandyOn
I burned it off at the cook top.
Does your local code allow using copper pipe since you ripped half of the black pipe out anyway? Have copper propane supply pipe in my house.
I have never seen it in a house besides this one.
could have rented a mega press. makes gas work so easy
Did you perform a load calculation for the BTUs for that gas line? My problem with this. Is that someone's going to watch his video thinking that they could do the gas piping and probably end up having propane and under sizing their pipe feeding their systems. From what I could tell is you have a gas, water, hot water heater, a furnace, a dryer, and a stove on a 3/4 inch line. Best of luck😂
I have been entertained.
The ONLY thing I won't do to my own house is gas, partly because I don't have the energy to learn it safely anymore, and also because where I live it's illegal to work on gas if you aren't a licensed plumber. Although the last guy to install my gas stove used super outdated materials and didn't bring it up to code. Whatevers, sigh.
You are just amazing!
So much better without the beard ! Nice job. Bet the wife loves it!
Welcome to the gun show 💪🏻
Wait.. The pipe at 2:34.. Why can't you just cut that in half, toss it, and put in a new longer one? No need to unscrew thew rest of the fittings.
You either have it or you don't.
You could have cut that pipe and used two pipes with a union to join them. Just another option. I don’t like unions though.
I wouldn't want to cover up a union inside the ceiling either.
@@TheHandyman1agreed…but it is an option. Great video! Your content is good.
A 15min pressure test is the best way to detect leaks. 4psi seems standard.
Content starts to get back better bit by bit.
can you use gas line propress in your area? seems cheaper than hours of labor to move it around?
The electical wire organization is driving me nuts
The tip is to shut off the gas, cut the gas pipe between fittings, move your pipe over and re thread with the sections you need, and connect with a union, test for leaks
That word work but a ceiling is going in and you can't conceal unions on gas pipe.
Assuming you're doing a drywall ceiling? If so, they have pretty small access panels that can be painted ceiling white and would almost become invisible. Something to consider in the future if you wanted to save a ton of labor if presented with a similar problem again.
There is a fitting set that consists of a nipple that is threaded right hand on one end, and left hand on the other end, with a matching left-right threaded coupling that serves the same function of a union. It can be legally installed in a concealed location.
I'm going to ask a stupid question. Why can't you just cut through the pipe, change whatever fittings out, then reconnect it???
It's not possible to do without a union, and you can't conceal a union inside a finished ceiling.
I like csst.
Much like pex for water, the csst would make sense to me.
16:18 "Entertainment purposes only?" Using an angle grinder could be entertaining. Don't forget the match test. If the flame flickers, it means there's a gas leak. 😳🤔
No time for goodbyes 😂
Can’t add a piece into the middle sounds like a challenge to me mr handyman, you said you can fix anything. & now my mind is turning
Megapress
Does the whistling cost extra - LOL
Soapy water no I actually just use a lighter fr
Where are you ? I like your sheetrock work,….pretty neat and clean inside house..I wish you live in the Houston area of Texas
🇺🇸🤘 Heck Yeah Handy Dandy 🤘🇺🇸
Handyman doesn’t know about left right coupling. Good enough tho
*obviously he shut off the gas first guys*
For entertainment purposes only! 😂😂😂😂😂
🎉🎉🎉
😅😅
Cocked off.
every valve needs a union in case you need to change the valve
Not needed. Consultant the code book. Mike
WOW, you do enough plumbing to invest in a pro press. That job would have taken 40 min tops. Yes the fittings are pricy but the time you save is well worth it. To say nothing of the beating of the body.
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Yayyyy. You’ll get the trophy 🏆 this week 🤡
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