Good report and good call to head down before something went wrong. Gusts at 47 mph and forecasted to worsen by another 10-15 mph are certainly getting into the 'sketchy' zone for our tent. I think the X-Dome does well for a 1 kg tent but certainly isn't as sturdy as a true 4-season tent. Good point about the guyout lengths. I'll look into adding a few more cm to the length.
@durstongear thanks dan. Yes it certainly wasn't worth pushing it beyond but good to see what it can take. The longer guy line attachments would be good for sure but I'm still loving this tent 👍
Right decision made to call it. You gain nothing from risking yourself, kit or even others trying to assist you. That little tent will punch above its weight but no point abusing it. New pot looks handy with a little pouring lip on it, not seen that before.
I must admit dartmoor is a full on adventure in the winter. I wish I could of filmed the insane conditions I had when I was younger doing ten tors training lol
Ok so ive seen a few vids of the xdome and its not been great are we giving it a fair chance its not a 4 season tent and its getting put in some terrible weather so the chances of it performing are very low. To me its a good 3 season tent and yes you get some wind in those seasons at the end of the day its a ultralight tent
@craig3401 I'd class it as a 3 plus season. Can easily cope with winter and is actually designed to take heavy snow loads so if that isn't winter what is. But yes seriously high winds isn't the right situation for this tent but it's good to test and see what it can take. Just in case 👍
Good point about the length of the guy line tabs , they could do with being about 10mm longer. I always tie my guylines with a figure of 8 knot on the tab and they never come off and cannot be shaken lose. I have been a massive fan of the petrel 600 pot with the Soto windmaster stove since i discovered it and before that i always swore by the MSR windmaster but thats gone now . I do notice that you can see a lot of the flame splaying out from the sides of the heat exchanger but looking at your 700 ml version that extra width looked like it has taken up that extra flame and used it to good effect if you boiled that water in 45 secs, Is it much heavier than the 600 pot ?
@Olan... just over 20g heavier so not much. Plus you can get it with a neoprene sleeve to keep it warm and yes i noticed the flames coming out the sides of the 600ml before too. I tend to turn it down a bit but on this it was fine even on full power 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper I will have to cut my toe nails in that case to negate the added weight 🤣I will have to get one because i can see it saving on some gas with that added efficiency. Thanks for the reply 👍
Funny I'm up in Dorset and I got caught out in the named storm during a hammock camp. Fed up with the forecast scientists hippies getting it wrong 😂 luckily I had the Yun Chuan 2 in the boot of the car. Great stuff as always 👍
fair point about the trekking pole with the tent. i think pyramid tents are so strong in wind because the 360 degree geometry coupled with almost all of the force being exerted down the pole, as opposed to the flexing of the side (like snapping it with your knee) like in the x-dome. 46 mph is 74 kph! not just gale force...strong gale force winds! 3 more levels and you hit hurricane! strong gale force: Structural damage occurs, such as chimney covers, roofing tiles blown off, and television antennas damaged. Ground is littered with many small twigs and broken branches. on a random note: i've looked into carbon staffs before and they are not like wooden staffs which arent prone to snapping from a side on force..
@@NoviceWildCamper i wonder if theres a market for a youtube channel to test every tent to utter destruction. hehe. the natural inclination is to run for the hills because it costs a lot of money and risk. you could be the mr beast of the tent world
@@NoviceWildCamper speak to red bull or something so you can wind tunnel all the tents on a rotating platform to simulate 360 degree winds. take a whole bunch of tents down to test and fully anchor them all out over a 3 hours video. could go through all the major tents and some other tents for the lolz. that would be the formula one of tent channels. maybe even start off taking really crappy tents and testing those first for the lolz. i presume wind tunnel hire is well expensive.
@jimtolan7967 its designed to take snow loads. Don't get snow in 3 seasons. Anyway, I made it completely clear that's its a 3 plus season tent in my first video. And I think you get wind outside of winter season? 4 season simply means that the fly goes to the ground to stop snow coming under. Not much else in it.
@@NoviceWildCamperinteresting that the tent has carbon poles. Not sure about the temperatures that affect them but to be safe I use aluminium poles this time of year. You never know what the temp is going to fall to.
@@NoviceWildCamper I asked Easton about the effects of cold on the tent poles. They said they use the same carbon poles for the USA military and rate it for use down to - 40 C. They indicated it didn't change much with temp but didn't give any specifics. It sounds like the strength is not the different, but the consequences of it breaking would be a lot more serious in those temps.
Good report and good call to head down before something went wrong. Gusts at 47 mph and forecasted to worsen by another 10-15 mph are certainly getting into the 'sketchy' zone for our tent. I think the X-Dome does well for a 1 kg tent but certainly isn't as sturdy as a true 4-season tent.
Good point about the guyout lengths. I'll look into adding a few more cm to the length.
@durstongear thanks dan. Yes it certainly wasn't worth pushing it beyond but good to see what it can take. The longer guy line attachments would be good for sure but I'm still loving this tent 👍
Good feedback and response 💯
Right decision made to call it. You gain nothing from risking yourself, kit or even others trying to assist you. That little tent will punch above its weight but no point abusing it. New pot looks handy with a little pouring lip on it, not seen that before.
@2pegsshort cheers buddy. Yeah it's a good tent but not storm force to that extent. Get that pot, it's awesome. 👌
Correct
Thanks
I must admit dartmoor is a full on adventure in the winter. I wish I could of filmed the insane conditions I had when I was younger doing ten tors training lol
It can be an absolute nightmare. And other times idyllic
Here we go..now we are talking this is where it's at. I'm here I'm ready to watch. You what
😂 cheers buddy 👍
Ok so ive seen a few vids of the xdome and its not been great are we giving it a fair chance its not a 4 season tent and its getting put in some terrible weather so the chances of it performing are very low. To me its a good 3 season tent and yes you get some wind in those seasons at the end of the day its a ultralight tent
@craig3401 I'd class it as a 3 plus season. Can easily cope with winter and is actually designed to take heavy snow loads so if that isn't winter what is. But yes seriously high winds isn't the right situation for this tent but it's good to test and see what it can take. Just in case 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper considering most 4 season tent are more than double the weight this seems to be holding up well
Im still using my old well used highlander cook system, still going strong after many years use. But your cook system looks nice 👍
I have one similar but I love this one 👌
Good point about the length of the guy line tabs , they could do with being about 10mm longer. I always tie my guylines with a figure of 8 knot on the tab and they never come off and cannot be shaken lose. I have been a massive fan of the petrel 600 pot with the Soto windmaster stove since i discovered it and before that i always swore by the MSR windmaster but thats gone now . I do notice that you can see a lot of the flame splaying out from the sides of the heat exchanger but looking at your 700 ml version that extra width looked like it has taken up that extra flame and used it to good effect if you boiled that water in 45 secs, Is it much heavier than the 600 pot ?
@Olan... just over 20g heavier so not much. Plus you can get it with a neoprene sleeve to keep it warm and yes i noticed the flames coming out the sides of the 600ml before too. I tend to turn it down a bit but on this it was fine even on full power 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper I will have to cut my toe nails in that case to negate the added weight 🤣I will have to get one because i can see it saving on some gas with that added efficiency. Thanks for the reply 👍
@Olan... 😂👍
😂 I've never been so excited about a pouring spout.
😂👍
Funny I'm up in Dorset and I got caught out in the named storm during a hammock camp. Fed up with the forecast scientists hippies getting it wrong 😂 luckily I had the Yun Chuan 2 in the boot of the car. Great stuff as always 👍
Cheers buddy. I've never known a year for named storms. Seems to get worse every year 🙄
Oh, I miss Dartmoor! But not in those conditions 😉
It's rarely normal 🙄
fair point about the trekking pole with the tent. i think pyramid tents are so strong in wind because the 360 degree geometry coupled with almost all of the force being exerted down the pole, as opposed to the flexing of the side (like snapping it with your knee) like in the x-dome.
46 mph is 74 kph! not just gale force...strong gale force winds! 3 more levels and you hit hurricane!
strong gale force: Structural damage occurs, such as chimney covers, roofing tiles blown off, and television antennas damaged. Ground is littered with many small twigs and broken branches.
on a random note: i've looked into carbon staffs before and they are not like wooden staffs which arent prone to snapping from a side on force..
Yeah it did pretty well bearing in mind it's not really designed for those winds but I just didn't want to wreck my tent 👍
@@NoviceWildCamper i wonder if theres a market for a youtube channel to test every tent to utter destruction. hehe. the natural inclination is to run for the hills because it costs a lot of money and risk.
you could be the mr beast of the tent world
😂 sp long as someone else pays for the tents 🤣
@@NoviceWildCamper speak to red bull or something so you can wind tunnel all the tents on a rotating platform to simulate 360 degree winds. take a whole bunch of tents down to test and fully anchor them all out over a 3 hours video. could go through all the major tents and some other tents for the lolz.
that would be the formula one of tent channels.
maybe even start off taking really crappy tents and testing those first for the lolz.
i presume wind tunnel hire is well expensive.
@PHYSIZIST wouldn't even know where to begin or get the time 🤣
It’s the new nortent.!!!
@@bernardscott1783 😂
It's a T3 season tent FFS!
@jimtolan7967 its designed to take snow loads. Don't get snow in 3 seasons. Anyway, I made it completely clear that's its a 3 plus season tent in my first video. And I think you get wind outside of winter season? 4 season simply means that the fly goes to the ground to stop snow coming under. Not much else in it.
Carbon trekking poles lose their strength and become brittle in lower temperatures.
Would that be the same with the carbon poles on the tent? Saying that it didn't really get that cold on this camp. Maybe 5 degrees.
@@NoviceWildCamperinteresting that the tent has carbon poles. Not sure about the temperatures that affect them but to be safe I use aluminium poles this time of year. You never know what the temp is going to fall to.
@@NoviceWildCamper I asked Easton about the effects of cold on the tent poles. They said they use the same carbon poles for the USA military and rate it for use down to - 40 C. They indicated it didn't change much with temp but didn't give any specifics. It sounds like the strength is not the different, but the consequences of it breaking would be a lot more serious in those temps.
I read that the epoxy becomes less flexible in colder temps but again I suppose it depends on the weave type and structure of the carbon
Stick to the taiji 1 mate
You stick to it, if you ever get out camping 😂