Cheating When Oil Painting - what is allowed and what is not - Oil Painting Advice
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2024
- In this video I discuss what is considered "cheating" when oil painting.
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One of the reasons I subscribe and watch your videos is because you have integrity. It shows in all your videos.
Absolutely! 🎯
completely agree
Bob Ross used to say when you buy your first tube of paint it comes with an artistic license to do whatever you want with it.
good advice, ...except maybe eating the cadmiums!! LOL ;D
But, He was original. Not like this he’s explaining like... And that’s why you can Always find similar or exactly alike paintings 🖼.. because they learn from the same source... not your own original creative source. Regardless perfection. I believe they look perfect like a picture 📸✨with paint on it.. yes. Like a print. Similar... anyway. Nothing like being natural born artist 🎨🧑🏻🎨👨🏻🎨... The rest are free🕊
I used to slave over my huge canvasses squaring up and at times if I got my composition, wrong required extensive reworking, however, I now have a projector and I am liberated. I get my drawing done and can start on what I really want to do Paint
I agree projectors are great for those very difficult compositions. I typically don’t need it for landscape work but for Still life it’s very helpful.
yeah, when working at scale, it doesn't make sense to avoid using a projector
You can’t really draw then?
@@susanmitchell4744 Yes, since times long gone it has been said that drawing is the "foundation" of all art, even sculpture. I guess today it's too much work (a four-letter word to some!) for art students, who look for short cuts and easy ways out. It is also a pleasure in its own right, just to take a pad and pencil and draw something, anything, just for the fricking hell of it, or for practice to hone your skills. Shame some folks are sooooooo lazy today!!
@@susanmitchell4744 what gives you that idea?
There's no such thing as cheating, anybody can paint whatever they want however they want.
The only issue is perhaps when someone false advertises a piece of art that isn’t necessarily produced the way they advertised, but they sell it anyway
It’s about the end product in the end. @@TTundragrizzly
Would you say - copying a 'Rembrandt' & selling it as a 'Rembrandt' is 'cheating' --- 🤔 - just curious - 🙂
Cheating exist when you say was made in one form, but was made in other. Cheating or not is about honesty.
@@Pax.Alotin I advise you to read what I wrote and re read what you post to see how nonsense your post is.
Not telling everything when you're teaching is like giving someone a recipe and leaving out something important. 😊
And remember you're paying for the painting lessons.... so you're being cheated.....
Hi Mark.
Thank's a LOT for the good honest explanation !
Nice to listen to an honest person.
It just makes you a better, and more credible, artist in my ears.
Best regards
Alf - Denmark.
I can't say enough about your teaching when I ran into your videos 4 years ago I felt so grateful for the amount of information you shared so I ordered your paints, purchased an easel, made a color checker, and set out to prove you right, my fiance and friends thought I had been painting for years when say seen the results, unfortunately my hips deteriorated
And I became unemployed lost my business. I had previously started and just couldn't stand or sit for long, and it demoralized me, and I stopped painting. I'm going in for my second hip replacement and look forward to the new purple paint. You have been a great inspiration, and I hope to have the pleasure to meet you someday
Sincerely 🎨 🖌
I used to be more of a purist, but using a projector can save so much time and as a watercolorist any way to reduce the number of unwanted lines is great. It is important to do some study sketches prior to using a projected image, otherwise you can lose track of what you're tracing. I think it is best to use photos taken by yourself, that's half the fun for me.
I'm been looking for a projector. There are many and they have mixed reviews. Any recommendations?
@@jplum7708There’s an app called DaVinci Mural Maker that I’ve found very useful.
it,s all about your personal views,it,s called creativity!!! leave people alone n let them create.You are so ful of yourself that you,ve lost the point.Are you not using the site to manipulate viewers to increase your personal gain? Don't you get it?You,re being ridiculous!!!
@@jplum7708When i paint something like a portrait or some kind of man made structure I always trace. I could never get myself to not feel like I'm a cheater though. But then, sure I would eventually....get it to be fairly right using a grid or some proportional dividers, but why? Even when I trace, I always end up doing so much nudging because something is off. Usually many hours of that. So, the frustration gets to become a real pain. Does that justify the tracing?
*I went to Art School where I specialized in two areas --- Painting & Photography*
Studying photography made me acutely aware of the pitfalls of using a camera when creating a painting. Sadly, some painters are oblivious to optical distortions created by cameras. Likewise - painters have little idea about the effect of direct or semi-direct flash - especially how it 'flattens' light. Faces & figures that would otherwise be 'rounded' by natural shadow & light are instead - painted with all the obvious effects of Flash & Lens distortion. To someone who has trained in both fields - the _slavish_ copying from a photograph - becomes all too obvious.
And oh the pitfalls of distorted proportion.
what about just using a 50mm lens to remove distortions and approximate the natural eye fov?
@@aeonbreak4728 I see that my original reply to your query has been deleted. I am disappointed with RUclips's ongoing wilful - censorship
@@Pax.Alotinwhatttt really? we are talking about art and lens here, what would motivate them to delete your reply? it's not like I was asking for the side effects of the global jim jones juice...
@@aeonbreak4728 Regrettably - some of my comments on other channels have also been deleted without my doing. This is an ongoing issue. I don't know how anyone in YT could find any discussion about optics - in violation of their 'terms of agreement'. If you have an answer - please share. Thank you for your understanding.
Hi Mark - I was luck enough to have had excellent teachers who didn't hold back anything. Its a standard I've upheld since I started teaching some 20+ years ago. I've also taught my students to use what ever makes the process enjoyable. Because art should be fun and not such a chore that they get disheartened and give up. Nothings cheating as long as there is a creative element to the work. Thank you for your wonderful videos - Paul 😃😃😎😎
The main thing is not from where the inspiration comes, it's the skill with which you render the work.
The greatest skill is worthless without inspiration and motivation.
Sharing and honesty are why I always come back to your videos. You are the best teacher on RUclips.
I love these types of discussions, so often its new or dogmatic artists that have that "cheater" mentality, problem is that if you take it all the way, its cheating if you don't go dig the minerals out of the ground and mix them to make your own oil paints.
I was thinking the exact thing!
Andy Warhol _'cheated'_ all the time :)
He had a factory of print-makers & painters do the work for him.
He'd sign them at the finish. No much different to the Ateliers of old.
@@Pax.Alotin LOL. Who would have thought that Warhol was classically trained?
@@Pax.Alotin the difference say, for example, that in Rubens atelier he was the most skilled one, the master who used students to have a bigger output but he was able to paint everything by itself if he wanted, but he was a teacher too, and that was the way to learn for the students, it was very common in that time, everyone who finished tuition came out as a master painter (unlike warhol). Everyone there had skill and talent for so many painting related things, like mixing pigments, stretching canvas, making brushes, making mediums, varnishing, drawing, painting application and so on, very very very different than what warhol and his crew did, warhol exploited and took advantage of people, that´s well documented.
@@armandogavilan1815 Quite right. Warhol used something akin to the factory worker model for some work & sub-contractors for others. The whole point of my original comment was to point out ( _to those expecting a work to be purely by a single hand_ ) - that this sort of outsourcing - group work - could fall into the class of 'cheating'. In the same way would think a student is cheating - if they use a calculator to solve a maths problem.
This is why you are endeared to us mere mortals, I feel your generosity.
This is an important message for artists. This is a deep truth of art - use whatever it takes to create your art. Thanks - great video!
I am a beginning artist, and have you to thank for helping me understand color mixing. Thank you so much. You are an amazing teacher and artist! All the best.
Thanks very much, I'm glad to see the Geneva supply store back with some stock of colors in a tube. The chemicals in the other paints can trigger a migraine in my case. Your products are absolutely outstanding!! I'll be watching for the new colors to come out soon. I have learned so much from you and other artist on youtube. Keep the videos coming!
Thank you so much, I am mostly self taught and in my 70's. I prefer oil but at my age I don't get to travel etc so using pictures is a must for me. If I know photographer I will give them credit saying they inspired me if not that that I was inspired by a photo I found. You just opened a whole new world for me.😊
I so appreciate your transparency. You are my go to guy for all my painting needs as well as who I send my students to for further clarifications on techniques. Thank you so very much for your years of wonderful products and instruction.
I appreciate your candour and honesty. I’ve struggled with this for a long time. As if it’s somehow immoral to use tools to assist in achieving a given outcome. Can you imagine an architect accused of cheating because he used a calculator? Thanks for this. I think you framed it perfectly.
Hey Mark, 💯% agree! I was a 3d animator video etc. when mid journey came out, I picked it up immediately reminded me of my days in 3-D. I do use AI as a reference and you’re absolutely right you can control the image on your own especially using style references and Carole character references. I really love your transparency. There’s such a pullback in the purist art community about this. I used to belong to OPA and I recently dropped my membership because they had rules in there about even using Photoshop and composing which I do all the time, and yes I’ve painted from life but I find it absolutely boring to paint another person staring into space. I love the immediacy that photography gives and I love different ideas that come about using the comp I create in the journey. You are a kickback painter by the way, I’m a huge fan for many years.
Please look up how these algorithms actually work and where they get their sources from. Artists who have been working with both traditional *and* digital media for decades are not furious about MJ and other AI generators because they are fast, or because they produce instant eyecandy - they're mad at these things because they are literally committing IP and identity theft at a scale never seen before. The only reason why it is not illegal is because the law hasn't caught up yet.
For reference, you'll find write ups by the EGAIR (European Guild for AI Regulation), and by the Concept Art Association.
Thank you Mark, enjoy all your videos, glad your paints are still available.
Thank you Mark. Great advice for certain. I'll take it with me as I move forward down this path!
I really appreciate your honesty and candor. You're a master painter and you've given me much food for thought
I’ve always appreciated your sharing your knowledge, and your honest approach
There are some good art channels on RUclips.
But
No one I have found is as concise and succinct as you are.
Your communication skills are outstanding.
The ideas and techniques you discuss are easy to understand & follow and make sense.
Thank you.
I love your honesty in this video. The way you explain everything in your videos, with serenity and clarity, have motivated me to paint again. My problem is that I need to be in the right mood to paint, in order enjoy and be happy with the proccess. I have always been autodidact and reluctant to learn from others. A couple of years ago I felt I was blocked and insecure, and then I found some of your videos and by listening to your speech, full of clarity, the ideas began making sense. For me it is crucial to have a number of basic but powerful ideas to reactivate myself and recover the right inspiring mood. Therefore, every time I feel blocked I come back to your videos to recover my motivation. Many many thanks. I appreciate enormously all your advices. Best regards from Holland and Spain
yes, I find these art vids inspiring, also the ones of several masters works; they get the juices flowing for someone who wants to paint daily. So, get up, get coffee, or your drugs of choice, if you take them, watch a vid and get ready for the day of painting, or for an hour or so, in the studio or outside, if that is your thing. There are now many vids online, good, bad, and ugly ones, (so, play the music of that great western movie). And some are even funny, like the guy or gal who vids themself painting for the very first time, "en plein air" as they always are quick to note. At least they are out there "squeezing some tubes", I guess!! LOL ;D
I cant tell you how much I appreciate your transparency!!!! Thank you. We need more of this in the art world.
I appreciate you mark , I had a change of heart about everything
you’re absolutely right
and thank you for everything
You’re a wonderful painter and a wonderful teacher, and it has always been obvious you share techniques and insight selflessly.
so much respect for you. I started painting watching your channel about three years ago and have drifted into concept art and have become completely obsessed with the processes of digital 3D and 2D media. Naturally the AI debate is insanely heated in that world, and AI generated imagery has a multitude of uses as a concept artist: reference, iteration on an idea, creating texture maps for 3D, generating brushes, source material for photobashing, even collaborating with AI by using the image prompts in midjourney. I've used it to create color palettes in photoshop, taking an image and creating a swatch for color picking. It is amazing to see this video because your draw mix paint series was formative for me as an artist. I still have umber still life paintings I did on small panels: a wine bottle, a pear, and a kabuki mask. It is no surprise to find out you have the wisdom to understand the true nature of a tool and the true nature of cheating. THANK YOU.
Thank you so much for your transparency and honesty, it is very much appreciated !
Mark, you have given awesome help to me as I move through the painting process. I started late in life but I have constantly found enjoyment and growth, thanks in large part because of your thoughtful guidance.
Thank you so much. This information was so helpful and liberating.
I bought a small easel from you, and shortly after that, I began to get all kinds of offers for other kinds of easels, and also began to receive all kinds of channels on how either an artist, or a manufacture, had come up with a perfect solution for using an easel and the method that produces the optimum ability for variations in positions in the process. I got the distinct impression that they think they had come up with something better. You are a genius, presenting us with something so simple that we ourselves could build it with the right tools, and a little ambition. Kudos, Mark! Jealousy is rampant--just sayin'!
Really great video Mark. Thank you!
Love love love Feneva paint. So easy to use.
Plus the brush cleaner is the bomn.
Thank you
Love your integrity! Thank you for such a thoughtful post 😊
Thank you for sharing your art & honesty
Thank you for being honest. The greatest fulfillment in life is being able to share the truth of what we know.
Wow! This is great, I had no idea you can even do this with AI. Thank you so much for being so honest. You have inspired me to learn and grow in my paintings, so excited to try this!
When I see a beautiful image I don’t care how it came to be. Your ai imaginings are absolutely amazing. I love them and I would pay money for them. My brother has been creating with ai and those compositions are lovely and a joy to behold as well. Thank you for this candid message. It puts things in perspective actually.
I share the opinion presented here but only about tools . But for AI it's completely different. By using a tool you stay an artist because you created something and the tool helped you. By using AI you become the tool helping AI to "create something".
Thank you to you Mark for all the help and advice. Sincerely.
Oh my goodness your work is so beautiful and wonderful ❤thank you for sharing your talent it’s a true master that teaches others 🙏🏻
Mark, I will say that your videos have transformed my artistic ability and my confidence level from, I don’t know if I can do that, to, I can paint anything. And I mean anything. You have opened up a whole new world for me. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge I can never repay you.
First thing I learned in visual arts university: cheating in arts is saying something was created differently from how it was created.
The context being that I had a very serious and responsable drawing professor on the first year of university, very different from all the post modern professors that taught stuff like new media and art history. He himself is very contemporary in his work, but also very craft oriented. He taught us to draw from life, two years of very rigid observation drawing, of both still life, ladscape and human figure. He said that, after we graduated his two courses, we could not only draw using absolutely any method we wanted, but that we would (if representing in two dimensions) come across a huge number of methods and devices that would absolutely overhaul our capacity to represent from observation, and that we in fact should use them. The only thing tho, he said it is the only possibility of being fraudulent in making a work of art is saying it is something it isn't.
I definitely recommend his course. went to Austin, learn straight from home and his method works
Thank you for your candor. You are very generous with this information.
Much respect ❤😊
the most honest video about art craftsmanship today. thank you!
Thank you for your honest opinion. I have often wandered if i am cheating in my own mind when i paint and draw. I have come to the conclusion as you have that your the artist and can do whatever you want. Just don't lie about it if asked. As i like to do real life and have taught myself to draw freehand with proper perspective, i find i just want to get to the painting and it saves heaps of time to use aids if needed. You have made me feel really good about myself so thank you.
It’s an important conversation. I think an artist should be honest, and have integrity. Thanks for this dialogue. I’m sure there are, and have been many opinions about this subject over the hundreds of years artists have been painting.
Thanks for the video. Always was thinks about that !
Thanks Mark, you are a great help!
I really appreciate this video. I painted a picture using a method similar to Vermeer and have felt funny about it but you've made me feel better!
He wasn’t the only person who used a camera obscura
Great discussion. Thanks
This was a great vlog, Mark and such an important topic that I think almost every artist has struggled with. I love some of the artwork your AI queries have suggested but I didn't get the name of the platform you used to obtain them...I will listen again and search the web. I have signed up for your newsletter, so thank you for that.
As for me personally, I have many ideas floating around in my mind and some great personal pictures to help me out with subject matter. However, I'm lost in how to adjust (to my liking) the lights/darks in my composition and want to utilize AI to (hopefully) provide me with realistic ideas so I can add to the photos that already exist. This sounds like such an exciting and limitless concept for any artist who wants to expand beyond their own imagination. If that's the definition of cheating, I'm all for it! Call me a cheater lol!!
So informative! Thank you!
Thank you for being so honest.
Very interesting as always, thanks.
I think we shouldn’t be too critical about either method. Let purpose do the job and use what’s available. Technology and the world will continue to develop rapidly, artists should rather merge so new ways of doing things can be discovered
I am a rank beginner, and I am so glad I found this. Thank you!
Thank you for this. I agree with you 100%.
And, by the way, I have finished more paintings since I bought your easel,in a short period of time, than ever before. I feel more comfortable painting because it is more approachable and easier to operate for any position I need to use. Thank you!
Love the honesty, especially because I know there are a lot of critics out there.
I've personally been using AI to generate painting references.
My paintings often involve a number of references, and many of my references are further manually altered in photoshop, etc.
On top of that, being a software engineer, I've been fine tuning my own image generation models.
It all becomes part of the effort and process.
My goal is to ENJOY the process and the product. This is the purpose of art for me.
Could not care less about what other people think, especially when most critics likely have not created much art themselves.
Interesting topic. Not many artists will admit to shortcuts and techniques that are often frowned upon because of the element of snobbery that pervades the art world, particularly from other artists. Painting is difficult and frustrating enough without imposing restrictions upon oneself. I think one should employ whatever shortcut or technique that helps get you through the creative process. Thanks for talking about it.
The thing about AI isn't that it's cheating or that it isn't art, it's the way these models are trained on other people's work. People who weren't asked for consent. That's all I need to know about it, for now at least, until we set some proper boundaries. Sure, you can do whatever your heart desires, but we should still keep some humanistic and ethical values. Integrity is important, not just utilizing any tool available.
They learn a style. You learn to style by looking at the impressionists, for example. That's not cheating.
Exactly, if we had a new fancy art tool that was built by child slaves, we would also have a similar stance. It's not cheating but it's unethical
@@glenngalen9853 They are not people, it's a program. Stop comparing ai companies to real people. There are even generated images with the signatures of the artists they stole from in some examples. It's really messed up. It's taking a copycat to the next late stage capitalistic level
"The Photograph" IS a work of art. Ask a photographer! I know a number of successful artists who take photos and paint them, either with Acrylics or Oils. It is simply mixed media, in my humble opinion.
Very encouraging ❤thank you
I follow Mark many years, he is the ONLY one that can help an amateur to learn drawing and painting methodically. In that way people gain confidence to continue and not give up. Most you tube artists show you some-thing about drawing and painting and not the whole picture. He is honest and most of his knowledge is for free. His methods, if you work hard, can teach you to draw and paint very well. Be well Mark and thank you for everything
If I'm not painting because I'm worried about what imaginary critics would say, that's cheating myself out of the wonderful experience of putting paint on canvas. For me, it's about the time I spend making art and the way I feel while doing it. I use all sorts of image sources and technologies, and sometimes just my wandering mind. As long as I'm painting, I'm fine.
When I was in art school in the 1980s, I had a few students criticize my work very harshly because I wasn't doing the hip style that they were doing, I was painting images of things with stories and shadows, they were doing abstract expressionism and dressed differently. So, there is absolutely no way you will escape criticism from someone out there, block those voice out and do what you like.
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Acknowledging that since photography became accessible to all, paintings - from throughout its history, just look different to me, than they might have at the time they were done.
Mostly I view paintings in books and now, online. This is ok, but seeing the original is always much more revealing of process, scale, technique and so on.
My favourite group of paintings are those produced by a small collection of artists, working in the 1880’s in England and especially, in France. These people obviously used photographs, but added a bizarrely realistic approach to representing light. The two masters of this style were Bastien Lepage and Dagnan Bouveret.
Super relevant topic, you know...it'd watch you evaluate famous works too. maybe just talking about subject matter and composition
Thanks a lot, Mark. As a new artist, this was a question which plagued me. For example, as an older artist, I have a shorter runway, and cannot spend a year drawing casts, and then a year drawing from life, before I put brush to canvas. I quickly learned, though, that each painting I make exhibits my own ”conclusions” about technical issues, and my personality in the choice and aesthetic representation of subject matter. If one judges paintings on aesthetics and not technical skill, I don’t see why that is not enough - as long as one is honest about one’s process. I’m not afraid of AI; it’s already a fact.
There are artists that spent a decade in an atelier drawing casts etc, only for them to realise that actually, what they really want to paint does not benefit from that one skill at all. Don’t feel bad about being wiser, do whatever you need to do to make the art you want to make now.
Koo-does to you! Much respect!
I use A.I. in the exact same way, amazing explanation on how artists can use it.
If a robot comes out that can paint better than a human I'm officially leaving this World.
Excellent talk, l have always thought use what ever tool you need to get you to paint your masterpeice 😉
I wonder if those AI pictures would be able to create the colour of the sky here in Sweden, the crisp, saturated late spring or early summer greens that I do not find in the UK for example. The sky has a different colour too. The leaves and grass are more muted in the UK.
That is why I take my own photographs, then change things as I paint by adding memories of how I saw the scene.
As an artist, I find ai to be obviously amazing for art. It’s like having a new gallery to visit whenever you want. I’m constantly inspired by it and it makes me want to paint MORE.
What exactly do you guys mean by using AI images? What Does this mean concretely? Do you give an AI tool a prompt like “give me a picture of a still life with pears?”
I’m interested, as i often find it hard to find interesting references
@@siebedeswertartist Mark mentioned a website/app here, Midjourney - You have a search bar like Google and you enter any number of prompts to get what you desire, for example, bowl of pears on a sideboard.
I agree with what you have said. I personally think of cheating in art as telling lies or misrepresenting your art is some way.
Everything else is on the table to use.
Very nice work 🎉🎉🎉 really
The problem of ai art isn't the output, but that the ai services were built by stealing the creative efforts of millions of artists and photographers, using their art without credit, compensation, or consent. It's the biggest art heist in history. Please consider joining the majority of image workers in speaking up against tech that uses the creative output of others to displace the same people they stole from.
Exactly. I love Mark's videos but using AI is the one thing I disagree with Mark wholeheartedly because AI is stealing. It's a tool for lazy, unethical thieves.
All art is derived from the art of others. It’s just part of the process. All the greats make no bones about who influenced them and you can clearly see they derived their paintings from the ideas of others. Perfectly ok.
You dont understand AI then. If you think its seriously stealing others artwork. There is no difference from you looking at all the artwork in the world and forming your own paintings from the references given to you originally. The people that are saying that AI is stealing peoples artwork is completely false. Especially the way its created is completely different than using other people way of creating art. It literally takes a complete scramble of noise and then diffuses the artwork from precious input commands. Thus the artwork is completely original in the specific sense of the word. Thats why people are losing lawsuits against AI producers, it doesn't hold any legal ground for being called "stealing".
@@Handles-R-Lame as someone who has taken graduate level classes on machine learning I agree but I think the point is that AI is using artist's images as training data without their consent. It just kinda sucks to have all these people put a lot of effort into something and then their work is being used as data points without their consent. But of course the argument is that if you post something on the Internet, you should expect that people will copy it. But I will agree that throughout human history we've seen and heard things and then went back to our little dens and tried to recreate them, that's why there are art movements and art circles.
@@Handles-R-Lame I understand fine, thank you. But we differ in opinion. It's a slightly new take on theft, and the courts are yet too catch up. Unfortunately, they tend to look to existing laws and precedents even for new kinds of shenanigans. Up until now it's been sufficient to judge copyright on surface likeness, as long as everything was man made.
I certainly hope that courts eventually decide that the core purpose of copyright is the right to control the profits of one's labor, and not about surface level likeness, nor the exact procedure of extracting value from other people goods. That was my original point, it's not about how the output looks, it's about using people data for profit against their wishes. Something for example the EU decided strongly against just a few years back with the GDPR laws. Frankly I don't understand why they don't see both browsing habits and personal photos as personal data. We'll see where things go, but it's not as simple as you make it out to be, nor am I.
I'd be fine with the tech if the training data were opt-in.
Always an eye opener. Thx Mark. I've always admired Vermeer. Perhaps I need a little AI to improve my ideas. I think that's my weakest area as an artist. Appreciate your candor.
Art means creating from ideas. To me, being able to use yet another tool means expanding my abilities of creation.
I agree, someone can be a great painter but struggle with inspiration... and vice versa! I was disgusted when giclee prints came out but saw how there was almost a need for them for artists and buyers.I believe in history master artists would have assistants work on small portions of their work. Not all artist could produce the volume Van Gogh did! I'm no longer a purist, just enjoy creating.
This is the best video I’ve ever seen involving A.I.
The inspiration's the thing.
it is another tool for the artist...I agree...great possibilities
This guy comes off as very pedantic but offers good advice. Painting is a joy. Find a teacher who is encouraging and not selling a product line
GREAT seeing your video on a Sunday sunny morning on the Res.. Glad your teaching us about your knowledge! So true.. paintings stand on their own.. NO robot can do that! You deicide the subject! You decide the light! You can protest against evil politicians and paint them as they really are! NO robot can do that! I have presented some of my oil paintings at the Met, 50 years ago and know! Thanks.. I will sign up on your newsletter.
I paint from my mind. For me I find that the purest form of art making.
One of the things I Love about Art is, it’s subjective, there are no rules! I was told by a great Artist older than all of us, just do the work!!!
Great video
The Art is in the process, the painting is the byproduct of the process.
True, it is a "document" of the struggle to do something you think is worth your very limited time on this rock to do, be it a success or failure. It is part of the life you have lived, and therefore a precious thing, even if it stinks. The hope is always it will be better next time, and that is the "process" we go through, for better or worse.
Yeah, I taught myself to draw in the years before I started painting. Then I discovered what I really wanted to do all along was oil painting not drawing. Then I came across your method. So I use a projector to trace the image because I want to spend as little time as possible in the drawing phase. (Takes me about ten minutes to trace it out.) I realized I didn't need to learn how to draw with the prop. dividers, etc; I already know how to draw and could do it free hand if I wanted to.
Interestingly, on a side note, I don't like using the color checker. I'm waaay too clumsy to be fumbling with that and brushes and paper towels to wipe the color checker off, etc. I think I'm going to try laminated photos instead...
Thank you so much for this video. I use AI to generate ideas and was afraid of admitting it. I appreciate your feedback on this subject so much.
An excellent video! Thanks!!!! People can be so daft: are they not going to look at Caravaggio's, Holbein's, Canaletto's, or Vermeer's, et al, paintings because they painted from projections of the models onto the canvas? An artist uses whatever information is available.
Thank you Mark, for your time and information _)
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Watch David Hockney's Secrets of the Old Masters. Vermeer et al were using camera obscures and essentially tracing their compositions. The first photographs were taken when a chemist discovered fixing silver to the plate in an already pre-existing device. Only post photography did painters start eyeballing stuff again. The guild of mirror makers was a part of the guild of oil painters in Florence during the renaissance... it started with mirrors and quickly evolved to lenses.