How To Construct Frames Without Foundation
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How To Construct Frames Without
Foundation is a RUclips beekeeping video explaining how easy it is to get the bees to draw out the frames with wax without using foundation. Its simple and very cheap.
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I totally agree with this. When I rise queens (the poor man method, not grafting), I use those frames because the new "free" drown comb is soft and clean and it helps having big healthy queens.
The only drawback is when the hive start getting big (more than 5 frames). Bees tend to draw drone comb. I know it is the natural way but come on! 3 deep frames of drones is "waste" of resources. Beside no worry for drone population, when bees want to make drones they will do it no matter what.
My favorite method is gradually adding those starter strip frames when I have that new split with new queen which help not overwhelming the new colony. After the 5th frame, I start adding frames with full sheet of foundations.
Replace the queen.
This year I have started using craft sticks I bought off of Amazon. I use wood glue, and glue three sticks inside the slot at the top of the frame. The bees have taken to it really nice. It also gives them the option to decide what size comb to draw.
Thank you so much for this video! The contributing comments and replies are so useful too! I really want to do this in my brood box, you’ve given me the know how and excitement to get going! Thank you!
I'm glad I found your channel. You are so full of good information. I ready to see how my bees are doing its been under 10 past 2 weeks. Ready for spring.
Thanks so much Kent!!!
I have learned more from this dude than anybody.... I also learned a lot from another RUclips video on bees.... really interested in getting bees and starting a hive but just not 100% yet
Great idea
You right David they build quicker without the sheet of wax, i have used frames with just a strip of wood across the diagonal of the frame and it was finished by the end of the day. Couldn t believe it. It s a technic called "cadre à jambage" in France, jamb frame.
It's how they survive in the wild.
A lot of people refuse to believe it. But they will build it faster.
Thanks for the video. I did this past year and the bees worked it well.
Again thanks David for sharing.
Good idea. I will recommend use wood glue and staples over. Treat all generously with melted wax.
I do almost the same. I use grooved frames because half my frames use plastic foundation. On my non-foundation frames I wax or glue in a thin strip of wood into the groove and then use an old small paint brush to brush on the melted wax. I tried the foam brush but it wore out quick and when it dried it took a lot of wax with it. :)
Run your brush along your line.Wax on the line helps them build on it a lot better also.
I prefer to let the bees do what they do best and this caught my attention. Have been thinking about testing a couple foundationless frames and this sounds like a good way to go about it. The fishing line is a good idea for us since we are new bk's with one hive.
I understand it's best to put two foundationless frames as outter frames and the rest with foundation to see how they do. I'm not sure if bees have time to fill a whole foundationless hive with honey as we live in northern BC where summer is short so I won't push my luck.
Thanks Dave, I was working on some medium frames for my supers this week and had done 10 frames with the foundation cut to make starter strips. I use small cell foundation and didn't want to burn through a bunch of it making strips so this should work great for me. I was going to use an eye dropper and fill the channel of each bar with wax rather than painting it on like you show here but will try both methods and see what the bees like.
Great tips for DIY'ers at home. Thanks!
I do the same thing but use wood glue instead of staples. good video.
You should use both. After that treat all over with melted wax.
Thank you....
2020 was a tough year on all of us, and it really hasn't let up yet. Never mind it's 2021, the pandemic and politics have joined to make it all the same at the moment. But things have to let up eventually, so just keep moving forward until then. Glad you are doing better, David. This was a good video, thank you sir.
The bees hate covid
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Thanks so much Julie. Good to hear from you...
My bees tend to make a lot of drone comb in the brood chber. They work it fine, as you say, but I just don't like them building a lot of drone comb, I want workers.
Replace your queen
Alan, being foundationless requires a little work to keep the new frames in the center of the broodnest where they are more likely to draw worker comb. Frames to the outside of the brood will always get drawn as drone comb. Nothing wrong with the queen. The workers decide what to build and a natural cell hive will have around two full frames of drone comb.
@@beasbeesrva2615 Thanks, I know there's nothing wrong with the queen, as I make up a lot of new nucleus colonies, with new queen's that get mated and produce a lot of brood.
Each of my hives have at least 2 full frames of drone comb Especially during the nectar flow. As the drone emerge my girls are backfilling those frames with nectar.
I tried this, and never put any wax on. They used it anyway. But this yr I will use the wood more, but with wax. Nice vid Dave.
Thanks for the tips
Craig Fr. VA
Looks good David thanks for the tips.
Although Frames can be constructed without Foundation, the more Wax Bees Build the Less Honey you get, because Wax Building requires a lot of resources.
I am still growing colonies and lack drawn frames to go around. I take full frames of capped brood from my nucs, give them an empty (starter strip), and add them over my production colonies. The bees hatch, increase population and the frame gets back filled with honey rather than my honey colony worrying with drawing wax. Make the little colonies do all the work.
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That’s useful in the future btw I’m 13
Thank you Carter.
That's awesome! Thanks!
Do all wood frames have that piece that can snap off?
I was wondering that exact same thing...and also why the frames come that way?
There are two type of frames, wedge top and groove top. The ones that break off like he is using in the video are the wedge top.
@@ThatGuy-br8py well now I wonder which one I have. Ha
Even without that piece you can paint the wax on the upper edge and bees will drow the comb. But keep in mind, you should put that frame between 2 full drown frames to keep the comb within the edges.
@@LiftedAdventures me too.....my frames are still in the box and unassembled. ;-)
U could just coat the under of the top bar, save the messing about.
In my experience the bees will start at some point of wood that is hanging down to draw out their comb. Without a guide there is no telling where on the bar they will make their comb. The point is actually more important than the presence of wax. I have been managing top-bar hives for about 7 years now, and have never used a full sheet of foundation. I used to use starter strips. Now I just use a wooden guide in the middle of the bars without wax on them.
I also know a person that does a double coat on this !
Thanks for sharing!
I was told the hive makes to much drone cells doing this ! Is this true or myth ????
Yes, specially when the hive is over 5 frames, less and the queen is young, they tend to build only worker combs.
New queen is key.
The bees will build what they need as far as drones. High drones in a healthy colony is actually a good sign. So what anyways. When the drones hatch just move the frame up to a super. If you take care to leave the drone frames they will build less drone frames next season. It's a give and take really.
Thanks for the tip David. Love your videos. Are you going to put out videos as soon as you do splits this year? I'm a new Bee Keeper and using your videos to know when to do my splits, feeding, etc. since I am in your same Growing Zone. It would help out alot if you did. No help near me due to Covid.
I'm just starting out so excuse my ignorance but don't you need a frame of drawn comb on each side of these starter strip only frames to keep the bees building new comb straight?
Any tips how to keep bees from cutting fishing line? I used 8lb test and my bees cut it and try to drag it out.
? Maybe use wood then, or just replace it with more fishing line.
I have 1 box . Just bought 2 weeks ago or 11 days ago. They are not building wax and there are eggs but not too much .it's my first ever hive What to do. I want to requeen it but I have only I hive and no bee keepers near by . No nearby association. Show I capture the queen . That they will make a new queen . Please answer
Does your wife get upset using her stove for melting wax?
Yes, if she found out lol
Why would I want foundationless frames?
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@@davidhaught84 I am getting a 5 frame nuc this spring (late April to early June). I live in Pennsylvania. It will bee my first hive and I have spent about $400 on prepping for it. By the way what do you think of Better Comb? I want my queen to be able to start laying fast since I'll be getting them during the middle of nectar flow.
@@homans_hives If you are buying a nuc, the queen will already be laying in the frames that come with the nuc. Stay away from Bettercomb. Folks that have used it have reported that it sags and collapses in the summertime. I have seen pictures and it makes a mess.
What if you only have grooved top bars?
Glue in a popcicle stick and coat with wax
Your wife is a saint. I would be crucified doing that in my kitchen. (Lol)
Thank you for ur sacrifice.... my wife would kill me
You started this in the middle of the story.