Delta DJ-20 Jointer Restoration
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- This Delta DJ-20 is an 8" woodworking jointer that I picked up at a local auction. And although its not all that old (1991) this thing looked like it had been put through the ringer. I was sitting in a leaky barn on an old mans property and my assumption is that it hadn't run in a few years. Being over 300 Lbs and looking like it had been lubricated with maple syrup its whole life I knew i could get this machine for pennys on the dollar.. And I did.
This restoration really didn't take a whole lot other than bottles of wd-40 and a lot of elbow grease, you can see by the thumbnail that the outfeed handle was busted (Luckily they still make parts) but other than that it was just the usual tune up, new Blades and Bearings.
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Always great to see a workhorse like this brought back to life. I wish I had the space for a machine like this.Congrats!
I've had a DJ-20 since 1988...great machine. Beautiful job on the restoration! A few years ago I changed the cutter to a Shelix and it's been a great improvement,.,.,. quieter and clean cuts regardless of grain direction.
Well done! You put a lot of work in to that beautiful tool. Not crazy about the color, but that doesn't take away from a job well done. Thanks for sharing.
There is a special place in Heaven for folks that take on a project like this.
the colour you get when you mix all the leftover paint in the shop
Terrible colour.
Nice work. Totally worth the effort to save the old machines.
I couldn’t agree more
Very nice work. I have a DJ 15 that I restored - both the DJ20 and DJ15 are wonderful machines - you are going to love your jointer. The table adjustments are so nice on those Delta machines - shame Delta tripped and never got back up!
"Yeah, ahh let me get a couple of cans of that spray paint... " "Sure, what color?" "Got any of that doo doo brown left?"
I was hoping it was just primer.
Its Rustoleum #2 lol
When I saw the brown going on I thought why is he priming over the paint like that than realized it was the paint so I was sitting here wondering if anybody commented on the turd brown choice of color scrolled down and very top of the list was this comment. I laughed said I'm not the only one that thought WHY. If this was only color I had I would have bought another one
@@colt4667 Same! I thought for sure it was primer and a different colour was coming. I know they make "Rusty Metal Primer" purposefully to look this colour so folks can see if they missed a spot.
Last I checked, it's his machine. He can paint it whatever color he wants.
Purchased a Steel City 40605 8" jointer back in early 2000 from Wood Crafters in San Antonio. It was a close out special. I did not fully understand the complicated inner workings of a large industrial jointer. Plugged it in and started cutting. Ooops. Lived with it for several years. Shelix came out with an aftermarket cutter head so installed that. Double ooops. At that point I was the proud owner of the most expensive boat anchor ever owned. I made every mistake that could be made in installing the Shelix. Surprise, surprise. At best I didn't cut a finger off or drop that heavy thing on my leg.
Year 2024 rolls around and I stumble on to Sam's DJ-20 Restoration RUclips. 2 Weeks later learning has occurred.
Sam mentioned that the DJ20 and the Grizzly GO490 parts are interchangeable (also the Steel City 40605). I assume when one tool manufacture quits another picks it up? I took Sam's advice and contacted Grizzly. There I dealt with Gwen. I didn't bore her with my details but did learn that Sam's warning that prats delivery could take several months is a real concern. Highly recommend Grizzly parts. Gwen sent me an owners manual PDF.
Off to the races. Several hours of studying the manual it immediately became apparent just how ignorant I was.
Tore it all down to bare parts, cleaned them up, and reassembled as instructed by the manual. Adjusting the Parallelism is the hot tip. Take the time, bite the bullet and be patient. Be careful, that thing is heavy. It will workout.
I don't know how Sam lifted all those heavy tables. I have a chain fall hooked up to a truss and used that. Be very careful.
Thank you Sam
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There’s nothing more beautiful than indeed and outfeed tables being adjusted on a parallelogram jointer. You’ve made a subscriber out of me, excellent restoration!
Yeah it’s painstaking getting it dialled in perfectly but man is it satisfying getting a perfect board in the end. I’m glad you enjoyed it! Lots more to come!
I was waiting to see it in action after restoration...
Me too!
I was waiting to see it painted electric blue - hoping the brown paint was just primer.
What a let down :(
Me too
Same here!
Very well made video and a great restoration. Hope you have years of good woodworking using it.
Thanks Mark! I’ll try to take better care of it than the last guy did haha
Great Machine. Have a Delta saw for 25 years and still works great as the day I got her.
You are doing a really good restoration, I wish you continued success.
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Most excellent, fitting treatment for a good old machine.
So colourblind people do restorations too... *Just jealous because I don't have that machine*... Keep up the good work...
Hahahaha thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Man ..for a joiner that thing takes up a lot of real estate. We small work shop guys can only dream of having that much space.
Great job! I like original color restorations normally but it's all just personal preference. Gonna be a nice machine!
That’s understandable, I just don’t like being told what colour my things should be haha. Glad you liked the video 👍
Great job! You really know what you’re doing. Don’t blame you for not including the most difficult part of the job; setting those freaking knives! lol
You did a very accurate
and precise job! 👍 Congratulations and greetings from Germany... ✌️
I get it from my German roots! Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Absolutely love the color combo.
I have a DJ-20 and love it. I dare say that it is perfect. I will refurbish it someday when I run out of things on my todo list.
Brown and white huh? Y'know... I like it. Nice restoration :)
Score one for the good guys! I’m getting lots of flack for the brown haha
@@samferguson1091 I thought the same, until I noticed it matches your logo. Who else can claim a personalized jointer?
Thanks for posting this! I picked one up and began adjusting the cams. The cams actually pushed into the casting as I adjusted them. I planned on flipping it over to push them back out so it was nice seeing what’s under the hood with your video. Your cams appear to have a flange that keeps them from doing what mine did.
Ohh interesting, yeah mine were flanged. If yours is pretty close to co-planer I recommend marking the cam bushing and the casting before starting. It takes the smallest adjustments because the beds are so long and Its pretty easy to get carried away with your adjustments. Ask me how I know... haha it was a long 5 or 6 hours getting it back to perfect. If you have any questions shoot me a message. Thanks for watching!
Always loved the DJ 20 since seeing Norm use one on NYWS. Glad you breathed new life in this one.
Norm was the man! I’m glad you like it, thanks for watching!
I just commented that I love seeing mine in my shop as it reminds me of Norm. So crazy.
Delta DJ-20, great machine and worth restoring...great job, I hope you enjoy it for many years.
Better than a new one. Definitely last a person a lifetime, and it's obvious a little maintenance won't be a problem.
The old stuff is still the best.
Great video. Great hands and smart movement of those heavy pieces.
Adjusted my DJ20 for parallelism the other day. The adjusting cams on mine have a little nib that sticks out on the face which at first glance one would think it indicated with the high or low position of the cam. Unfortunately, the nib is in some apparently random middle position which made it completely useless to me. I pulled the cams (they come out easily), measured the thick position of the lobe and marked them. That made the adjustment straight forward.
Wow...just great time and great work for a great machine that is going to be enjoyed in many work projects...well done....
Thank you! It seems like a great machine, and it will definitely outlast me. Thanks for watching!
nice job bringing that back to life! long live the beast
Amazing what one can accomplish in less than 20 minutes when they know what they’re doing. Well done!
you know it was not 20 minutes in reality, right?
@@kisMikolaB you are correct. it was 18 minutes and 17 seconds. Good eye.
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Nice to see it got restored and not trashed👍
I remember when those came out, being old school I didn't think much of them. Have since learned that this innovative bed design has only been used on one other jointer. I think it was the English Burgsen jointers back in the 50s and they are widely admired. nice score. Hard for an old timer like me to see restoration of a machine I regard to be as pretty much a "Johnny come lately"
Oh really? That's interesting, I'll have to look them up I've never seen one. I haven't gotten all that much use out of this jointer but it seems like a really solid machine and the adjustments haven't moved an inch. I'm pretty excited to spend some more time with it. Thanks for watching!
@@samferguson1091 here is a link to one sample which was actually Bursgreen, later
the idea was used by other companies that
merged or licensed from them. Extremely high quality machines. vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=17845
and another vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=12515
Watched in anticipation of seeing it run again……..maybe when it’s painted ?😂
Very nice work. One thing I did when I bought mine is to relocate the power switch to the back and top of the machine by installing a square tube on the rear cover and mounting a switch box on top. I also replaced the switch with a modern paddle emo type. I really like it.
Yes I noticed that the newer grizzlys moved the switch there too. That’s definitely something I’m going to consider, I’ll do that when I get a helical cutter head. Thanks for the suggestion, and I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Congratulations! I'd bet she's worth the effort!
Yeah she’s gonna be put to work! Thanks for watching!
I have one, doesn't need restoration but this a fantastic build to see how to take it apart and put it back together if I need to in the future, or at least until I put a helical cutter head on it. Well done. I'm actually missing the lever for the outfeed table, but seeing that I need to flip it upside down to replace makes me hesitant to do so, thing is damn heavy.
The Brown was a bold choice.
Yeah it’s very heavy, you might be able to get to the lever with an offset wrench or something. But you never have to adjust the outfeed anyways so it’s probably not worth the hassle. My next step is a helical head as well but they cost about 4 times what I paid for the machine haha. And thanks, people have either loves or hated the brown... I just did it to snub the delta purists 😉
@@samferguson1091 Helical heads go for around $500, so if that's 4 times what you paid for the machine then you got a steal man. As far as purists go, I don't understand it, the color of what a woodworking tool 'should' be is a dumb hill to plant a flag on.
Absolutely it was a steal, took about a week to restore but time well spent.
@eric hold I’m actually a huge fan of that royal blue, I saw someone painted a vice that colour and it looked great. I just wanted to stick with something fairly neutral especially for shooting video. And it’s subtle, unlike some of the other tool brands. (Bright Yellow) (Baby Blue)... thanks for watching!
Thank you for saving an awesome piece of machinery.
Thank you for watching! There will be plenty more in the future!
Love the new color combination! Original would be nice but this makes it unique
Jointers like this haven’t needed improving since day one. Just keep it tuned-up to run from one owner to another. Painting does add a nice flashy touch. Good job your set as far as the jointer is concerned.
Getting the tables back into alignment to make flat boards is when the real work starts.🙂
Yes it was a very tedious 6 hours but hopefully it’s good for a longgg time! Thanks for watching!
I was given a 16 inch Delta radial arm that needs the same workover. Nice job. Ill probably go with a stock color tho!
man you tore into that machine almost like you knew what you were doin! nice work brother and thanks for the vid
Bravo. Great to see a great tool come back to life.
Nice , I was not expecting that you will doing it single handedly! That's too awasome to see it restored.
Yeah this machine is a beast, must weigh 3-400lbs. Glad you enjoyed it!
What a strange color to paint this machine, I would have painted it candy apple red or a deep purple. Just kidding. I love it and loved watching your restoration.
18 minutes of taking apart, cleaning, painting, and finally reassembly?
I waded through this hoping to see material on tuning it … nothing. You didn’t even turn it on or run a piece of wood through it. Thanks for your effort.
Great find and great restoration. I like how easy the cutter head comes out of that model.
Yeah it’s super easy to change out, 4 bolts and a pulley. Thanks for watching!
I just picked up one of these and was wondering what to expect for the rebuild, thank you so much for this look into my future....lol great restoration 😎
My advise... bring a friend because these suckers are heavy haha. You got any questions feel free to message me!
Patrick these are awesome machines. I use mine daily. But I’ve got helical head. Made a huge difference.
Great restoration, just as the other machines. I do like the fact that you use the same like paint scheme for al the machines. The color isn't maybe to everyone's taste, but I like it.
Exactly, it seems like people either love it or hate it. Thanks for watching! I got a 60s delta Unisaw that is gonna get redone this year too.
Absolutely beautiful craftsmanship
Thanks William! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job Sam. Looks like a brand new machine.
Thanks John and thanks for watching!
FELICIDADES Sam... Una restauración Perfecta. Saludos desde Barcelona Catalonia.👍👏🥇🍾🥂
Right there with ya, right up to the point you made the conscious decision to paint the fecker disantry brown, why man, why?!
Hahaha might have just been trying to ruffle some feathers 🪶 did it work?? 😄
@@samferguson1091 YES!! 🤣
Don't be that guy
@@davidroosa4561 what guy?
I was waiting for him to paint over the primer.
1.10.2023 thank you for this nice vid. am i the first ? to say you didn't mention how the blades were sharpened and that you didn't run something through it.
Dos comentários que encuentro importantes:
El Primero apunta a no haber respetado su color original, ya que Delta es una marca tradicional reconocida mundialmente por su calidad y si de restauración estamos hablando lo correcto hubiese sido respetarla. Pero gustos son gustos.
A continuación, mismo conociendo las normas de seguridad en máquinas de corte, la protección móbil y ajustable de las cuchillas de corte siempre debe estar pintada de rojo, pues a simple vista indica zona de peligro.
Otro aspecto que noté en tu trabajo de restauración fue el armado y la falta de grasa en las piezas que deben soportar esfuerzo constante. Lubricar una máquina luego de montarla es un problema al cual solo tenemos acceso a escasas partes de la misma.
Fuera de este comentário, recuperar esa máquina es en sí tener conocimiento del valor de la misma, sea por su robustez como por sus magníficas prestaciones para quienes somos amantes del trabajo con maderas .
Mis felicitaciones por tu desempeño!
¡Gracias por tus comentarios! ¡Es muy apreciado! En cuanto al color, entiendo que el gris delta es la norma, pero simplemente no me gusta. Lo encuentro muy utilitario y quiero que mi tienda sea un lugar de inspiración para mí, no un lugar donde tenga que hacer cosas o pintar las cosas de cierta manera porque eso es lo normal. Lo único que no estaba seguro sobre el engrasado eran las barras que hacen pivotar las mesas hacia arriba y hacia abajo, pero me imagino que porque generalmente se colocan en una posición y se mantienen allí, las dejaría sin engrasar. los cojinetes son todos autónomos. Una vez más, agradezco los comentarios y su tiempo para ver el video. ¡Habrá mucho más por venir!
I was thinking it looked like it belongs in Willie Wonka's Chocolate ..errrr. Wood Factory... Beautiful machine, nice work! You could change over to helical blades, you won't regret it...
Thank you! I’m planning on getting the helical cutter, just hard to justify when it costs 3x what I paid for the machine haha. But when I do I’ll do a side by side comparison of the two heads. Thanks for watching!
Very nice machine. I have sold a few of them. Trying to find one more for myself to keep.
Yeah its a really solid machine. I love those storage cabinets in your videos by the way. Thanks for watching!
Nice job restoring and filming it.
watching these restoration videos can be fun. but only if they slow down so you can watch is being done.
Yeah it’s just so hard to fit everything without it being a 4 hour video. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!
I was wondering why you were assembling the jointer with only the primer coat sprayed on. Then I realized it wasn't primer but the final coat. Nice finished look, I just hope the paint stays on and doesn't peel or flake off. Nice project either way. Thumbs Up!
Yeah i probably should have sprayed a primer first but the paint I used was a ‘paint and primer combo.’ The paint has actually held up pretty well, it took a few dings from me trying to wrestle it back into place. (Extremely heavy machine) but I haven’t had to do any touch ups yet. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the feedback!
Delta is grey ! Always has been , always should be.
That grey is too utilitarian for me, I think the majority agrees with you though haha. I’m ok with being different. Thanks for watching!
Looks fantastic done.
Such a beautiful restoration! Nice work!!
Thanks! And thanks for watching!
Funny. I actually thought mine had rust on it. Lol. That’s a lot of rust. I love my dj20. Reminds me of Norm Abrams in his shop when I see it in my shop everyday. I bought mine new.
Yeah it was in pretty bad shape, but its in good hands now. It seems like a really great machine I cant wait to get more hours on it. Thanks for watching!
Awesome restoration!!
Nice job!
Absolutely Amazing Job!
Great job! Congratulations!
Extraordinario trabajo Sam, felicitaciones, gracias por compartirlo y Saludos desde Colombia!
the old owner left the cabinet compartment decently clean for you
That's a lovely machine fella.
Thank you Ed, and thanks for watching!
Nice job, some some light acid (Ospho) can do wonders for getting some of the marks out of the metal surfaces.
I’ve never heard of that, I’ll have to check it out. Thanks!
@@samferguson1091 Works like an acid wash, apply, scrub, neutralize with cloth wetted with water, followed by your favorite oil wipe (Ballistol/WD40/etc)
Nice job.
Love the colour scheme.
Whistling like Karl Pilkington. Good resto
Haha I had to look him up. Thanks for watching!
Great video...I’m pretty picky...glad to see the work and not the over commentary type vids...subbed
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@@samferguson1091 maybe a follow up showing how to ensure the tables are in plane and correct....
Nice job on a VERY fine tool! I did found myself wanting to see more of what you did in two areas. First, what, if any, work was needed to flatten/polish the beds. Perhaps no significant work was needed. However, it sure looked rough coming off and kept looking better as the video progresses. Second, what was done to redo the cutter head? It came off looking like it needed a lot of TLC and went in looking like it got it but we only got to see bearings get done. Those two tasks are likely to be the heart and soul of what someone with an old machine might need. Still, a very nice project. Thanks for posting it.
Thanks Donald and thanks for the feedback, I had to pick and choose what I left in and kept out unless I wanted the video to be an hour long. But the beds were just sanded down up to 600 grit. And the cutter head was just basically de rusted and put back on. I didn’t spend too much time on the cutter head, just did a quick sharpen on the blades as I plan on getting a helical cutter head for the machine eventually. (I’ll do a comparison between the two heads when I get it. Thanks again for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@@samferguson1091 Thanks for your reply. I will be VERY interested in your take on the benefit of a helical head. I expect it will be a great improvement but I would love your assessment of the value of the upgrade. In a professional or high end hobbiest shop, I suspect it is a great addition. As a home shop guy (which most of us are) I am not sure it is worth the investment. I can buy some decent useful tools for the cost of the head. It is a tough call. Now a subscriber and will look forward to following your channel.
Bravo! Nice save
Thanks Mickey! And thanks for watching!
A little voice over explanation of the process would make this video a lot more interesting and bring your a lot more views
I'm going to consider doing some voice overs in the next videos. Thanks for the feedback! And thanks for watching!
I feel like this is the type of video that shouldn't have a voice over. It's not a guide or a walk-though, it's a time lapse of a very long process. It would be hard to shorten your sentences enough to fit each clip. Maybe consider writing some sub titles people can turn on/off and pause to explain things, similar to how Primitive Technology does it.
@@snoopyslr I haven’t seen primitive technology’s videos I’ll have to give them a go. Thanks for the feedback
Been there, done that. In 2006 my shop was flooded with 43 inches of water - and mud. The DJ-20 was only one machine of several that had to be restored. And when I contacted Delta what was their advice? Junk it and buy new. I can identify with every step he took. Nice job.
Ooohhh that’s my worst nightmare... if you’re a glass half full kinda guy at least you get a thorough understanding of how the machine works after having to restore it. Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
great Job
Sweet! Looks great!
Thanks Doug! Glad you liked it
kinda wanted to see him turn it on and run some wood over it at the end...but it looks pretty good!
Great resto! Not a big fan of the color - but on par with your brand. Congrats!
You are good as most parts are discontinued from Delta. Of course the real scrounger can find parts but it is not easy
Nice job kid
There hasn’t been any design changes in jointers in 100 years! You should have made a Shelix upgrade.
I can't believe you didn't run any wood through it at the end.
Nicely done. Im in the process of doing the same thing. How do you re-connect the two springs located under the infeed and outfeed table?
If only you could restore my old bones as good as you've restored that jointer, as for colour I fancy sky blue pink. Cheers
Haha if only! Thanks for watching!
Nice. That will be a great tool for the shop.
It sure will, and it will probably outlast me. Thanks for watching!
How did it work? Usually the old heavy cast iron machines are so superior to the cheaply made modern versions.
Wow. Such an amazing job. Looks so good. But I have a silly question... Why brown, and why not upgrade the cutter head to helical? Absolutely beautiful work.
Thanks Neil I appreciate it! I just prefer the brown over regular old Delta grey. And the helical head will come just gonna save some money for it. To put it in perspective the helical head is about 3x as much as I paid for the machine. Thanks for watching!
Amazing video.... this guy has amazing skills and knowledge... though I can’t say the same things for his taste of color 😁
Ill take the compliment haha! Thanks for watching!
Great job, Sam!!
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Nice job, had a few DJ20’s. Sorry but I like the original color.
It seems to be a really solid machine. That’s fair haha I knew it would ruffle some feathers but i wanted something different for the shop. Thanks for watching!
It looks nice, but IMHO original paint colors would have been a bit nicer. I would polish the rusted wood guides too. After polishing, use paste wax to keep the rust at bay and the wood just glides so nice through the jointer.