The Tired Feeling All INTJs Experience But Can't Describe
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This video goes over the feeling that's not really laziness, tiredness, lack of motivation, or most symptoms related to depression. It's a feeling that comes and goes randomly where INTJs just don't feel like doing anything.
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This makes so much sense and explains why sometimes I just "shut down". Not in a depressive way, I'm still working, but I don't have a drive to leave home, I just want to watch something in my PJs and not speak with anyone. Usually it goes on its own after a day or two. I noticed it's mostly correlated with a lot of stress.
I'm getting a lot of comments saying it has to do with stress. Maybe you're right and that's the catalyst. Very insightful ✊
I usually feel this way when things just keep getting fucked and like no matter how much effort I put in shit just happens, and then I simply fucking give up.
I have this feeling fairly frequently, usually at the end of the day after a really tough day. Then if things are not going well despite my best effort or if there are problems I cannot solve, then this feeling can last for days or even weeks. I used to call this burnout.
omg yes!
Yea I feel the same way too usually when I’m stressed. It feels like not doing anything and when I try to do something I ask myself why am I even doing this?
I think the better term for "mama's out" would be "autopilot". You are correct; it's not depression or laziness. Under stress at work or in family life this can and does result in periodic episodes of autopilot for an undetermined duration.
Once my autopilot shuts off and copilot mama returns to the cockpit it's all business. Suddenly a new elegant code block is written, the house is cleaned in record time, and trouble tickets at work (I work in IT) get effective solutions as if I've morphed into a fighter jet and am going ballistic.
"Autopilot" sounds correct! I've gotten a few good suggestion on what to call it and I'm glad to hear that other INTJs understand this feeling just as well as I do 😂
Quickest way to get "momma back" is to engage my brain in non-task driven activities and sleep. I accept it, fully embrace it because I know "momma will be back" quicker if that overhinking, analysing and problem solving brain just shuts down and defragments till its done.
non-task activities are my favorite 😅
Dang. I’ve always just called it “Meh”. I’m not happy, but I’m not depressed. I only do what I need to (food and hygiene are optional because I’m not hungry or trying to impress). All the junk food and games are me trying to simulate myself with pleasures. It only works until I stop. This goes on until it goes away and I am back being energetic and over productive
Meh is exactly what my ENTJ friend calls it 😅
I told my boss yesterday, I wasn’t on my A game, I was on my C’s get degrees game. It usually for me gets triggered when there’s a lot new things/unexpected things going on because Momma can handle new things, but when there’s a lot “up in the air” and new things being thrown at me that are uncertain, I can’t form a game plan around it. Momma is like “yeah there’s nothing to work with here, and I’m just gonna check out…”
I hope your honesty was well received ✊
100% accurate. Mama was out for months here. It actually became a bit frightening because that is the longest I had experienced this. So glad Mama came back from her cruise!
She always comes back! 😂
Glad to hear she came back! Still waiting for mine, it’s been quite a while and it’s super exhausting without her
@@poizonali I hope she comes home soon. That chaos is way too stressful!
Did you notice anything that could have triggered or lead up to your "Mama" coming back home?
@@yoyojae77 Over the past 3 years she was dealing with constant emergencies. She was burned out and needed to feel safe again. I didn’t put any more pressure than absolutely necessary and let the baby indulge at every opportunity. It worked to give Mama the off. And she showed up two weeks before the next emergency fresh and strong. But there was not a specific trigger that brought her back. She came back when she was rested.
So accurate bro 🤣 the story was abstract but you actually were able to explain it. “We do it because we can” lol so true! Thats when the organization of junk starts happening too 😹 cleanest junk piles around
"Cleanest junk pile around" 😂
My junk piles are organized junk. I know where each piece of crap is located.
@@Kat-Has-Cats exactly lolol
I call this "autopilot". I'm monitoring the plane to ensure nothing crazy happens, but I'm not fully in control per se. This allows me to get the Se crap done while I continue to think/plan my next steps on the stuff I'm REALLY working on. It isn't until something jolts me out of autopilot (good or bad) that I'm able to get out of this mood.
I like the term autopilot ✊
Yeah unless Fi can adjust the direction just a little through some emotional jolt it kinda just continues
@@yukannasenshi5172 yup! I find I go into autopilot when someone/something I've been working to do/help/be there for does/says something unexpected. For me this is really bad because I can usually see most scenarios and plan for them; but being caught off guard makes me go right into autopilot. Where Ni is monitoring big picture allowing me to get the MUST DO Se done (eat sleep drive). While Te is SILENTLY trying to objectively process the situation in the background and suppressing Fi so I don't go apoplectic. It isn't until I've really found (or tried really hard) to sus out what happened, then some Fi thing can turn off the autopilot mood. I've been going through a mini one the last few days, someone took a joke (not even directed at them) personally and proceeded to attack my character---Autopilot engaged. Oddly enough I tend to want to drive a lot when I get like this...
@@justcallmejon22 I agree. And it happens to me a lot in school
As an INTJ I call it my "Mellow" mood.
I call it mild depression. I'm still able to function minimally every day but my soul and purpose seems to be gone and I can't get it back. It's like being a 'floating being' just going through the motions in life.
The skit was originally part of my video about depression but I realize after writing that it wasn't really depression, but it also is at the same time. So I agree with calling it "mild depression". My god-daughter's name is Daphne so I love your name 😁
I refer to this feeling as malaise. This happens whenever I'm working toward something and have to rely on other people and every step forward feels like a major effort because those people make it difficult to progress. After a while the constant high effort for little gain wears me down and saps my energy. Mama's been out for a few weeks now. I hope she comes back soon.
I hope she comes back for you soon too ✊
This is me every now and then, exactly what I experienced 👍
Same for me atm. Mama’s been out for over almost two months and it’s the longest time ever. I was actually asking myself if I’m even able to think anymore, so strange is this feeling 🙈
Yes, this is happening for me right now. I am working on something I am really interested in but because what I am providing to my team just seems to be ignored and going into a black hole, I am really running out of steam. I just wish for total autonomy. Like, just let me run with this project; because I feel like the team isn't accepting me as part of the team and isn't considering any of my inputs.
It's so accurate. For me, mama's out from Friday afternoon, until Sunday evening. In the weekdays I am very productive and I plan how much I could accomplish in the weekend, when I have very little to do, but when it actually comes times just flies without anything actually happening.
Mama sounds super efficient 😂
"Stagnation" is the only way I can describe this feeling in one word, not the complete plane nose dive of depression, but the plane stalling as the incline taken upon it was way too high. This is not the tank running empty, but the locomotive scraping up the tracks of a steep hill. This is because of the overload of Fi incline toward perfection upon the Te engine of willpower. There is a point at the top of the incline that looks similar to "Laziness" as the engine of will reaches a point where gravitation of fatigue weighs on. The drop down seems similar to "Depression" but the machine is kept pointing at the goal nose up because of the tilt of Fi reaching for goals instead of a dive down to self pity of depression. This stagnation is even unlike "Un-motivation" even as the spiral down and off the tracks seem sporadic but the derailing was never by miss of enough Fi passion to burn in the Te engine. No. "Stagnation" is a feat only capable of high willpower and passion meeting a deep realization of wrong and incapability. This freefall feeling has everything feeling out of control as dreams above fly higher and higher as your life blows past from under you only to hit the ground to do it all over again, but this time just a little bit longer, just a little bit higher, and you can laugh as you look down to see it for yourself.
I would definitely call it "stagnation" too. This is the right word that describes perfectly with what I've been through several times in my life. I'm nearing 27, and the reason why I pile myself with a lot of passion projects (and cut off unnecessary communications and distractions) is because of the fear of facing stagnation again.
And you have a point. No matter how much I am accomplishing and have accomplished, I still find myself feeling awfully stagnating once in a blue moon. It's a dreadful feeling I find worse than being unmotivated, laziness, or depression, and it's harder to get out of. Because in order to get over feeling stagnating, you have to aim even higher than before.
I really enjoyed your explaination and stagnation sounds like it might be the word that I was looking for 🙏
@@BuizelCream I definitely agree that adjusting that Fi aim is crucial for Te to jumpstart into manual control again instead of leaving autopilot, and definitely hard to get out of because instead of having to aim higher and get your Fi mood up and running you need to de-stress that Te engine of yours and run more efficiently.
This is how I would normally describe this feeling as well
Having all the energy to play video games but slump whenever responsibilities have to be faced. Giving excuses like, "I need stimulation".
Exactly 💯
It's burnout, but not burnout. It's feeling exhausted without being exhausted. It's like being stuck in the primordial ooze state. As an INTJ I know this feeling all too well.
Funny how when you've said "the Baby Si will be playing games all night (...)" It just clicked.
I understood the whole video even without reaching the end. - A fellow INTJ
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You talk my language, It's exactly what I felt today. I just did the minimum. I surely needed to recharge my Te, I was just tired mentally, emotionally, and maybe physically too. This snow moon have really an influence. Cool t-shirt ^^.
My brother got me the shirt to show support. I figure I'd wear it once to make him happy 😅
I still haven't seen someone put into words this "feeling" that I experience from time to time as an INTJ woman in such a smart, theoretical and logical way as you did in this video - thank you so much!!! I especially enjoyed your analogy with the family members and roles. Btw I'm subscribing now to your channel, hope you keep up with the great content :)
Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I appreciate the support 🙂
I just use the French term, "J'ai ennui." Not boredom, not fatigue, not depression, just a sort of listlessness. The best English term I can think of is 'caught in the doldrums' or 'no wind in my sails'.
Infj here. In my life, this mood is called procrastination 🤣 and in it, you get sh*t done only by sheer willpower and mainly by the power of habits. Maybe others would call it a fatigue. Tiredness. Feeling unmotivated. Not depressed, just a mind not fully present. I dont know how to change it, it is usually external factors that get me out of it.
That's interesting to hear because INTJs usually don't get motivated by external factors because the majority of the time our motivations come from within. Thanks for the insight! ✊
@@justcallmejon22 it might have something to do with Fe and Fi ? I can hardly get out of stupor alone and what works best, is being shaken by some extroverted friend, brother, partner etc . Being activated, put in motion. I need help from others to get out of paralysis 😅 what also helps is gym time 😄
@@fiction589yeah same im an INTJ and i need some sensor type (Se or Si dominant) to push me to get me out of it
I call it going into hermit mode.
"daddy? where did mommy go?"
"well, she said she was going to buy cigarettes."
"wasn't that days ago?"
"yes, my son."
"will she ever come back?"
"of course she will come back, she has always come back before."
"when will it be?"
"well, my son... nobody knows. nobody knows..."
I had something like that in the video but i took it out because I thought it was too cliche 😂
Lackluster.
Weary.
But no word actually fits. You did a good job of illustrating it. Thank you.
I like lastluster, that's a good word to use for this 🙏
As an INFP-T single mom of 5, I know what it's like to want and need the mental vacation/break. I Retook the test. I feel so much better.
You sound like you need a break Mama 😅
Occasionally, I get one! Early bedtime saves lives 😂
Boy you hit the mail on the head! It’s alot harder to deal with when your family naturally expects you to handle everything anyway…I usually hit this point in July after a very busy year….I run 3 companies one of which is tax preparation. That’s when I want to go camping by myself in the middle of the woods for min 4 days. No people no kids no husband, I am talking no people at all. It’s hard when your family don’t get it! They are so used to us handling everything. Nice job of explaining it in a relatable way.😁👍
I hope you get the rest that you need when you get your alone time fellow INTJ Queen 👑
@@justcallmejon22 Haha thanks so much, I appreciate it😁👍 your explanation really helped me understand why I feel the way I do when I have reached my limit. Best thing I ever did was taking the test, understanding why our brains work the way they do is insightful. I used to wonder why the solutions to problems came so quickly to me and were so obvious.
Thank you man. This is how I live for a past 3 years and I'm so fkin tired of it. I lost my loved one because of it and loosing my job now... I'm so glad that I found your channel. It helps me understand myself better. Thank you.
Remember, you're never alone ✊
I always just referred to it as feeling "heavy" sometimes it’s fine to push through if I push through the "heavy" feeling to often i get burned out so sometimes I push through when needed other times I don’t it’s a fine line and if I ride it to far I might end up setting myself back some then if I decided to move slower and steadier
Heavy is a good word to describe it ✊
I'm trying to think how I would describe that "mood" but it is multi faceted.
1. I'm out of charge and can't find silence or a private corner to recharge. If my social life gets pushed to a place where I can't avoid being around people and they keep taking my energy until I "collapse," that mood comes out. And, by collapse I mean, I still function, but I'm just existing and appear unmotivated. Those closest to me will get the worst of me as that's when I might snap, or a super dark humor comes out that hurts people.
2. I'm waiting for something and things feel out of my control. I seem to hate the unknown since my brain is constantly shifting data around to find the most efficient path to my goals. When someone or something gets in between and breaks that process or brings uncertainty, my world collapses. Now I'm "unmotivated" for a different reason.
3. When a project or a relationship gets stagnant (I guess this is almost like the 2nd one), this time it's the unknowns combined with questioning whether the path I'm walking on is going to be fulfilling or am I wasting my time.
4. Financial worries. I usually have multiple years of financial safety so that I can do what I want, and the second that feels a bit out of control, first panic hits, then I deviate from my main goals to create stream of income to feel retired so that I can go back to my goals. If the new stream of income takes too long to create or hardship hits, then that mood comes out again. I'm really not sure if those are all different feelings or the exact same one. Hard to tell, but it's a "depression" loop that lasts no time and isn't really serious, it's almost where we want to be at that moment. If I outwardly expressed it every time, people would think I'm bipolar or something. I get over them quite fast. Usually.
I'm currently experiencing #4 and although I'm worried, I've yet to be afraid because I know Mama will return and we'll figure a way out together 🙂
@@justcallmejon22 I'm right there with you! Good luck to both of us. I'm sure it will happen. The bad part is, the very thing we're trying to solve is the thing that puts us in this stuck limbo. Lot's of catch 22. We quit a job to pursue dreams and then get anxious for finances and get stuck. Currently I'm working to work on overcoming that and not be stuck. I don't want to go back to a job so I have to put the unknowns to the side and not let them get me.
Mama goes out a lot with me. Esp after finishing my need-to-do's and accomplishing goals. As a result, I tend to set some ever so often coz when she goes out, it's for months on end. I don't mind her going out, just not for the next 5yrs as I build my empire. I need to rest well when I'm wealthy... 😇🤩
She'll be back, she always comes back 😅
Absolutely love this video! I've actually been going through a "mama's out" phase myself after pouring weeks into trying to get some gear in a game I was playing, and was raid leading for my group one night. Because I'd been so HI-KEY focused on my main goal everything else felt like a distraction for some reason to the point where even some of my raid mates thought I was upset or just not having fun that night. Fast forward to the task being done, and I've been feeling like I'm forcing myself when it comes to taking on the next challenge, which is going to be easier overall based on prior achievements and gear, and I couldn't figure out why.
This feeling is pretty much it in a nut shell. As soon as you started describing it, it was like a lightbulb came on and that "EUREKA" moment just lit up. I just need to let mama enjoy her vacation from focused goals and when she's ready to tackle things again, it will all work out. 😂
She always comes back brotha 😅. What game are you playing? I used to be huge on WOW when it was at its peak.
@@justcallmejon22 I spend most of my time playing FFXIV right now. Finished getting BiS for the the current raid tier and now just enjoying a break from the grind I didn't realize I needed until mama took her vacation. 😅
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Excellently and most humorously described Jon.........
I call that mood 'lights out' or 'mindlessness' within my inner circles....Or 'Introspecting' within my professional and outer circles.
I have improved on literally being able to schedule when I would allow it to happen and how long it will be allowed to persist. As opposed to it happening in flustered manners that would completely interrupt the flow of my life in negative ways. Now, when I would inform those close to me that I am having 'a mindless day' or weekend or week, they respect my time and space; and I am grateful!
During those mindless periods, I am able to allow 'Papa Ni' to do what he is suppose to be doing, in powerful, healthy, productive, and (focused) meaningful manners. So when I come out of that period, I come out with clear instructions from Papa as to what, when, how, where..... for what is NEXT in my project(s)! So now Papa serves me beautifully, and works harmoniously with Mama; they then both (Papa and Mama that is) now enjoy long visits from Auntie, and playfully keeps baby in 'joyous order'.
That's amazing that you found a method that works! I still don't know what triggers Mama to leave but it really does give Ni and Se a lot of time to bond 😅
Woah, this is probably the best explanation I've ever heard to explain this long rut im in. The analogy made complete sense. Thank you Jon 🙏.
Those are cute lyrics! I always love songs written for moms =)
It's what I needed to hear Jon. I walked out on 140k a year at the beginning of 2021 because I was going H.A.M. with momma for 15 years straight. I called this my "f&@* it, f$%× you, f_÷& off" stage.
Exactly how you explained. Not depressed or lazy just kind of existing.
@FC7040 - - Similar for me ... H.A.M with momma 2000-2020, I walked away from a corporate director position and Baby Se ruled in 2021, then Momma returned in January 2022 and is still ruling the roost (February 2023).
It sounds like Mama definately needed a break after 15 years 😂
It is better to do nothing than to do something wasteful.
As long as we cannot really define whether it is wasteful, it is better not to do it.
Agreed 💯
This was actually a phenomenally helpful video! Thank You Jon!!
Moma's Out - - On a cruise, Girls weekend bender (again), Doing whatever! ... I spent the last several weekends EXACTLY as described 5:36 - 6:47 ... and LOVED IT.
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As an INFP, my "mama" and "papa" never leaves, instead, I'm just waiting for "auntie" to visit and takes care of the mess, before leaving again lmao
That sounds like real life me when I visit my INFP sister. There's also so much Te work to get done 😅
Crappy weather sends mama out for me. Soon as the sun comes out and it's no longer bitterly cold, she comes runnin' back. Great synopsis there Jon, thank you.
I actually enjoy the cold 😂
Momma comes back in Winter for me..
holy crap you are the first person to ever describe how I perceive my brain works! And I have totally experienced what you describe, your on bare minimum auto pilot
The most on-point explanation I've ever heard about this phase.
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This is my drained batteries/recharge mode. Never worried about it, because it's just regrouping not stalling, which is a huge difference. I usually put a timer on it, and know exactly for how long I allow it.
Going through it currently, I can definitely relate, thanks.
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This happens to me fairly often.
It’s usually when I’m drained from some emotional conflict. Or, having some type of drama with another person.
I can have a ton of energy and if something emotional happens… my energy just drops.
I need alone time and it’s hard to accomplish anything.
That energy drop is no joke for an INTJ ✊
Emotional conflict is way worst than projects and deadlines. I'd rather torture my brain than deal with drama.
thanks for explaining IT! there are times where I am just "lazy or tired" and yes, I am just going with the flow.
Happens to the best of us ✊
Ugh I'm SOOO GLAD I FOUND UR CHANNEL I've been in this mama's out phase for a long time coz
1: i didn't knew i was an intj
2: i didn't knew about ur channel
3: not like i didn't analyze my life but i just didn't knew the coz so forced myself to accept that I'm ABNORMAL
However, THIS IS THE BEST WAY (kinda abstract ngl) BUT I WAS SHOCKED TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE KNOWS ME BETTER THAN MYSELF (well never met someone "not so normal like me") but I'm glad to know I'll study deeper..
My momma went for like an year (the child mode completely) and the next year was partially dad and aunty involving like the zombie like i wasn't out completely but it wasn't a 100%. I'm getting to know myself better. I'm sure mama will be back someday. For now I'm doing the bare minimum i can until mama returns.
We all go through this phase, just make sure to keep taking care of yourself while Mama Te is out or she'll give you hell when she returns 😂
Malaise is probably the best word for it. It's a low level depression, not crippling, but not happy or motivated.
That might be the best word to describe it, a few others suggested the same ✊
Oh geez, Jon. You're right about INFJs. Sometimes it takes me forever to accomplish a task and I'm not depressed. I just know it's a time where I can get away with it. All those different "dimensions" in my head tell me I can. lol Ya know, I watch a lot of INFJ stuff. And they're excellent, don't get me wrong. However, your approach to teaching is significantly more appealing and comprehensive at the same time.
I've always noticed that INFJs take a while to action things but it didn't really make sense why until after I learned cognitive functions. Also, my approach is due to Mama Te. INTJs are more human when she's around 😂
@@justcallmejon22 I know this may sound condescinding, but I have no problem with INTJs. The guy I'm into now is pure INTJ. Things about them that bother others doesn't phase me. I wonder why?
I use mine as an autopilot feature when I need a break from fully engaging in reality.
It happens when Auntie Fi has been knocked around a little too damn much.
This makes perfect sense to me. But my momma extraverted thinking doesnt want to come back because she knows what she has to clean up.
Gonna have to do it anyways, might as well sooner than later 🙃
Thank you for making this video. I can finally get my family to understand why I just have THOSE days. It clashes a lot with my ISTJ dad and ESTJ mom since they want everything organized and every second even when I'm just not feeling it.
I used to half-ass everything years ago but then I paid the price and got my ass beaten for that so I just force myself to do everything with great quality which just "demotivates" me more and prolongs the autopilot mode.
It was especially worse around the lockdown period years ago because I just wasn't feeling it, man. The unfamiliarity brought upon me by the sudden change to online classes along with the expectations to perform like I do in regular classes just made me shut down at times.
I was forcing myself to come up with ways to deal efficiently with the new setup, teachers relentlessy setting more deadlines, classmates and group works taking away my free time, my xSTJ parents wanting me to be organized and constantly bringing me out of my head (where I retreat to when I am stressed) which violated my dominant Ni.
God, this whole video stressed me out. I'm gonna go watch something relaxing.
Take a deep breath and remember that the more effort you put in today, the sooner you can find your peace alone when you move out. You got this my INTJ niece/nephew ✊
Lol..i love u jon!!! U hit it every..single..time.. i call this mood "£uc% it!!"..its that mood where i just throw my hands up, roll my eyes and pull out the video games 😒😞 it is a state of fully functional "tiredness" where a part of me has truly and unapologetically "stepped out"😧
It truly is amazing how universal some of these feelings are just because of our MBTI type 😅
I know a 100% what Feeling you mean. I'm not en expert in this area but as an INTJ myself, sure i already tried to find a reason for that :D.
I have a thesis: I see that (destructive/inefficient) condition as a subconscious processing time, where i procces things that are not achievable by just thinking (yes, i know hard to admit as a INTJ). as a exemple, I can play Piano on 1 day, but there will be a passage, were i have to sleep first to be processed.
Or its like your throw ideas or concepts down in your subconscious mind and who knows when but there will be a time it comes back.
Hope this comment makes kinda sense. (not just but also because i'm not a native english speaker)
p.s great Video, thanks
Your english is great! I can see your angle and you might be right, I still haven't figured out my own answer to this video so your guess is just as good as my own 😀
The word I use is "melancholy" when the mood strikes...I know what you are trying to explain...I tended to just think it was the NiFi loop but after watching this video, maybe not.
A few other INTJs used the same word 🙂
I can see these so clear in my INTJ’s friends ! Well, I am their MAMA I think you need an ENTJ in your life 😬😬😬
Oh I have plenty of ENTJs in my life. I have a habit of attracting the rarest mbti types, the ENTJ & INFJs 😅
@@justcallmejon22 I am RARE? 🤣😂 I have no INFJs in my life. 🤔💭
Yeah the "I've done enough for today" feeling
It's a great feeling to clock out for the day 😅
Jah bless, finally I understand my procrastination. This also can explain Se grip and some intjs have an addiction period because papa does anything that baby Se wants and there is no mama to put common sense. I am in that mama's out almost all my life because Ni can't really work well, my parents didn't let me do anything so baby Se was going nuts and then auntie Fi was yelling always about the situation
Now that you know what the issue is, have you figured out a way to get mama back home?!
Never have someone describes my situation so explicitly. Hahahaa this is so accurate
Mama come home yet?
Well described, a method to bring mama back is a project and when you try your best to get something done that you need which isn't what your desire nor a plan but a bigger thing that you need in order to live and not get your independence compromised and you start searching for it and try to get it done
It isn't the process actually, it's the hope of it getting done and the feeling of how it will turnout when it's done which leads to the baby getting what it wants of joy that the hope and finishing it hold.
So you're basically calling Mama on her vacation telling her that something happened and she needs to come back ASAP 😅 (Just poking fun)
You can describe it like that 😂, it's more like look mama what we are doing and the joy it brings.
Completely TRUE, my opinion as INTJ.
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This mood literally defines the "lazy" part of me as a scholar.
I am a scholar who struggles to stay motivated when it comes to the Type A nonesense I have to go through to achieve a goal.
Sometimes everyone need a little push. Check out motivational videos online or surround yourself with Te friends. You got this✊
It's easiest to understand stories, thanks!
That's a very concise way for your audience who are not typology savvy to understand this abstract topic .
Thank you 🙂
I agree totally with you there and despite watching you explain it, I still wouldn't be able to explain it to others. So far I always considered my social battery to be empty and needs recharging with "not caring" about things for a while.
And sometimes I paradoxically feel more social in these times because I can simply go with the flow.
I feel the same way as well that I become more social in those moments. It's like a weight has been lifted and 'I have to do this now because I know I can't do it when Mama returns' mentality 😂
If I’m understanding correctly, then ENFPs may have this too. I call it autopilot amusement. Muse means to think, and so amuse means to not think(at least not much). So Te is out, Fi is napping, Ne is hiding in his cave processing stuff, and Si is like that crazy cat that freaks out at nothing and runs off. So you’re operating on autopilot: allowing your mind to drift wherever the winds over the sea of ideas takes you…, even letting your emotions flow away from you, and just accepting the pros and cons of the experience.
That's a great way of explaining it! I think every type has their own autopilot mode but it doesn't seem like it to high Te users because we're still accomplishing things while we're in it. It's so odd but I guess it might just be out mind recharging or something 😂
INFJ - the same. But literally *Always*. (no Te) It's horrifying, why do I exist...
(Edit: You actually said it at the end of the video. I feel heard.)
I got you my INFJ brotha ✊
the mood is : empty+lonely+cold
As an INTJ, I have no idea what you're talking about. Seriously.
I've gone through depressive episodes when I don't do anything.
I've gone though burnout when all I want to do is retreat from the world and get lost in video games because I can't cope with reality at the moment.
I had a brief period of utter and complete apathy in college when I was unmotivated to do anything, not even entertaining myself, because it all seemed so pointless.
I've been assigned work I hate and half-assed it because I hated it that much. But that isn't mea following my plan.
I've been tired of people and fighting and just left because whatever it was wasn't worth the fight with those people.
I've never sat around and half-assed my own plan. If I have a plan, I love my plan and take joy in executing it, and the hardest thing is waiting as all the pieces come together.
I am completely confused by your description.
Seriously, Mom and Dad have an insanely codependent relationship. She never leaves.
I'm happy to hear that you never felt this way! It really is a shitty "mode" to be in when mama leaves for a bit but it sounds like mama never left for you 😅
This makes so much sense. I know everything I should be doing and the projects I need to finish, but I get so tired of having to figure everything out all the time I don’t want to try too hard to do anything . My brain is tired.
Mama always comes back...eventually 🙃
It makes so much sense now 😂 My brain usually runs 100mile/hr, and at some point I feel like my brain is not carrying on, like the engine is idling. I used to say I’m in the unproductive mode and feel guilty about it after.
Yup! I completely understand how odd it feels when Mama Te is out 😅
I know what you're talking about, but I don't know if it's normal.
Living on autopilot could be one of the depression faces.
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It's not normal for sure, it's just something all INTJs go through 😅
IDK but for me, Aunty Fi starts to worry alot when Te goes away for a while. Fi starts yelling at Ni to get stuff together but Ni just starts feeling uncomfortable and tries to ignore Fi, and distracts by focusing on Se whims.
That's why I love Auntie Fi. She really does care about us and will make sure what we're doing aligns with our values 😁
Great video! Very informative and certainly very insightful as to how the mind of the INTJ (our sister MBTI type) works. 💡
it's so true, Mama's usually out for months for me before she comes back and whenever it happens i become so aptetic towards life, eat, sleep, work, sleep, read novels, sleep repeat. it's pretty surprising that you can accurately describe this patterns, although i never fully trusted MB types but i gotta trust the patterns. the patterns don't lie!
I can't help but see patterns 😂
The word I'd use is ennui
Good choice :)
The last time I heard ennui was in a gothic anime.. a decade back, maybe.. but yes, it's damn fitting.
I've never heard that term before. Thank you for teaching me something new 🙏
@@justcallmejon22 lol intj here, just doing my job
Currently going through this phase now. It’s been weeks. I’m taking on too many projects and because I know I’m capable of completing all of them I continue to try and push myself to do all of them at once which in turn has put me at a stand still I won’t pull the trigger on any of my projects. It’s usually 1 hiccup in my multiple plans that makes mama leave the house. Now I’m on RUclips searching Mbti videos… I count this as self development and being productive though 🤷🏾♂️
I understand that struggle all too well fellow INTJ. Anything that engages Ni is never a waste of time IMO ✊
Brilliant✨ genius explanation here
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I believe the feeling you are referring to is basically a blank state of mind, I've had these "mood swings" from long to short periods of time and to describe it would be exactly the Ni-Fi loop alongside with the overwhelming fatigue + Pressure that we Intj's experience so on the outside it appears to be some sort of depression or just an unmotivated demeanour when actually it's where we're simply organizing out some of our thoughts while reciprocating those thoughts with contemplation of both our achievements and longterm-goals accordingly, the dynamics of which can range from burst of ideas and preconceived concepts to questions about one's selves existence as well as these seemingly never ending spirals of thoughts (so just imagine 7 epiphanies happening simultaneously whilst also being accompanied by primordial thoughts that create the confines of reality itself, at least for the user that is.) I believe I went through my first "Blank" somewhere around the age of 12 and it's just been a natural occurrence ever since. So in hindsight, it's basically just the Intj providing therapy for themselves.
I agree mostly with what you're saying and the only thing I have to add is that we go through it even when we're not stressed. Stress can be a catalyst for us going through this process but it's not the only catalyst imo 🙃
I learnt feelings through inside out.. love this
I notice when I'm a little nihilistic about society , I can't see I'm reflecting out wards through the world , intjs think I'm depressed,
But, I don't talk about sad events thats personal u guys do..I don't know why u see I'm depressed when I clarify society of today..yet you guys can tell a sad event that's happened to u and u don't see yr emotions ..its like holy f^&k I see this sadness but u dont
I'm not really understanding this comment but I wish I did so that I can provide a proper response 😅
@JustcallmeJon don't worry, it's a observation I see in INTJs
This is perfection. I am currently experiencing a Te on vacation. I'm not sad, I'm just not prioritizing normally.
I also think it's my adderall and zoloft operating like an angel and devil on my shoulder. "You should clean your whole apartment and stop doing the bare minimum".... "You should try to relax and be happy with what you have so go lay down".
xD
My adderall usually loses to a fight with Auntie Fi 😂
I come back to this video, and at first I thought "Mama's out" is like when an INTJ feels like he's "stagnating", but I now realize that it's not really it too.
I'm currently in this very "Mama's out" phase where things are still getting done but in a half-assed way like what's said in this video. I'm still passionate about what I do. I still reward myself for what I can do. But because I'm just physically and mentally exhausted after being overly productive for months, I couldn't go the extra mile when I do my work like I used to.
It's been 2 weeks since "Mama's out", and I'm just waiting for Mama Te to come back. In the meantime, I'm just being in my head and doing some research for funzies. I'm playing video games or rewatching favorite movies/tv shows while I'm doing some stress-eating. I should rather do exercise as a healthier substitute for more Se time, but... I'm just so exhausted and prefer to stay home and sleep all day. 😅
I really miss Mama Te now. I dunno how long is her vacation tbh. I'm just "autopiloting" through life making sure work and chores are still being done like Mama Te structured me to do.
Haven't seen you comment for a while, I hope you're doing well! Mama just went on vacation, she'll be back soon. I say just try and enjoy slacking off for a little because she usually comes back energized and then it's go time again. I know what you mean though, an INTJ not engaging with Te feels like a fish out of water 😂
I’m 24. This has been happening to me since I graduated high school. It used to be like a monthly thing, but it’s been so much more often since covid. And I let myself drown in it for too long that now I struggle to be productive. I thought I was depressed.
Sorry to hear that you're going through it, I truly empathize. I want to add that it might be depression that's leading to this feeling so I hope you're using all avenues to diagnose and hopefully fix the problem. Seeking help as an adult is the most manliest thing to do. Hoping for the best my INTJ nephew ✊
@@justcallmejon22 Thank you!
On you, on me, Ennui.
The way i've described this to people is it's a feeling of being dead inside.
Yup.. it feels numb.. I feel like I am stuck in a limbo
I see it, but a bit overdramatic 😂
Honestly I’m very grateful I found this channel. Really helps me to understand how my self operate. I’m binging all these videos!
Happy to hear that my videos are helpful 😊
This JUST happened to me. Thanks Sooooooo much for this! Glad I had something to send my partner to describe this..lol
I hope your partner listens and learn 🙂
In this state, I don't worry about hygiene b/c no ones going to smell me!
I recently went over to a new friends house to chat about some creative projects I'd like to ensnare this person for, and as I was lifting my arms up in my tank top I caught a whiff of some extra ripe, so I said ,"I'm going to rinse out my armpits in your sink. If the scent is stinging my nose, I know it's stinging other people's ." Luckily the friend laughed and took it in stride and I think understood that I was trying to be accommodating and pleasant. So that bodes well for friendship
It's always a nice feeling to be around people who accepts your INTJ weirdness 😂
Borrowing from Sci-Fi "Unpowered/inertial flight".
That's how I would describe it: lacking the confident energy that would be "powered flight".
There's a song that I can't stop singing since listening to this vid:
Mama by Spice girls. It's actually fitting to Jon's analogy
She used to be my only enemy and never let to me be free
Catching me in places that I knew I shouldn't be
Every other day, I crossed the line, I didn't mean to be so bad
I never thought you would become the friend I never had
Back then, I didn't know why
Why you were misunderstood
So now, I see through your eyes
All that you did was love
Mama, I love you
Mama, I care
Mama, I love you
Mama, my friend (you're my friend)
I didn't want to hear it then, but I'm not ashamed to say it now
Every little thing you said and did was right for me
I had a lot of time to think about, about the way I used to be
Never had a sense of my responsibility
Back then, I didn't know why
Why you were misunderstood
So now, I see through your eyes
All that you did was love
Mama, I love you
Mama, I care
Mama, I love you
Mama, my friend (you're my friend)
You're my friend
But now, I'm sure I know why (I know why)
Why you were misunderstood
So now, I see through your eyes
All I can give you is love (all I can give you is love)
Mama, I love you
Mama, I care
Mama, I love you
Mama, my friend
Mama, I love you
Mama, I care
Mama, I love you
Mama, my friend
Oh, oh-oh (you're my friend)
Mama (you're my friend)
Whoa, oh-oh
Mama, my love
Oh, oh-oh, Mama, I love you (me loving you, you loving me)
Mama, I care (a love that's true, and guaranteed)
Whoa, oh-oh, Mama, I love you (me loving you, me loving you)
(You loving me, you loving me)
Mama, my friend (a love that's true, a love that's true)
(And guaranteed, so true)
Mama, I love you (me loving you, me loving you)
(You loving me, you loving me)
Mama, I care (a love that's true, a love that's true)
(And guaranteed, so true)
Mama, I love you (me loving you, me loving you)
(You loving me, you loving me)
Mama, I care (a love that's true, a love that's true)
(And guaranteed, so true)
Mama, I love you (me loving you, me loving you)
(You loving me, you loving me)
Mama, I care (a love that's true, a love that's true), oh, oh, oh
(And guaranteed, so true)
Mama, I love you (me loving you, me loving you)
(You loving me, you loving me)
Mama, I care (a love that's true, a love that's true)
(It's so true)
I believe a good way to get this Te back is to actually just... give in. Give in to "Mama's out" for a day. Just one day, no more but no less. Lie around on your bed watching RUclips, or just anything that lets you not worry. In the grand scheme of things, one day doing absolutely nothing worthwhile is not going to hurt that much. Except, of course, if you have a very demanding job or something, then there's no way than to wait for Te to come back, but one Saturday or Sunday off doing nothing can really help. Saying this as an INTJ who came back from one day off doing assignments with twice the willpower, no overdue homework (rare, in my grade) and full marks across the board... after a week of failing tests and being barely on time for classes.
I agree that an INTJ always needs a break and to allow time to pass when Mama's out but I also acknowledge that not everyone has the luxury i.e. INTJ parents, caretakers, etc. I'm not sure what we can do either to bring her back so hopefully she's not gone for too long 😂
@@justcallmejon22 My parents are an ISFJ and ENTP. They let me rest… kind of? I’m on top of my work anyway but I had to tell them that “I need a break or I won’t function properly”. After some arguing I got them both to agree to Me not doing anything on Sunday and now I’m better.
Jah bless, my brother infj only works towards something that is emotionally deep in him or because he wants social connections but yeah poor him as an Intj I literally started to learn robotics and automation to forget day to day task
Hahaha 😂😂 VERY ACCURATE!! experience it almost every month, I thought it's related to ladies hormones 😂(Although I hv many projects/office work but I just don't wanna do it for few days.. If i forced my self, I still only did very minimum like replying few emails and didn't wanna think too much, just can't.) But lately thinking..why other female colleagues don't have this kinda same mood with me? Is it really hormones? 😂
If male INTJs experienced it too.. then I know now, it's bcoz of "Mama's Out" 😂😂
I can't speak for ladies because I can that as a male, Mama goes on vacation a lot 😂
Probably "ataraxia" (greek origin)?
The "unshakeable" perception of our context, nothing could do/go wrong, since Te already handled it properly, we have no need to think, derive or organize ("Mama's out"); all that's left is enjoy, explore and let it be (Se - for instance, I like to sleep when it strikes), since "no problem will shake me out of my spirit/peace" (Fi-Se), since "we can treat ourselves with a reality break, like, anytime, Te will be back to sort that shit out!" (Ni-Fi)
Thanks for teaching me a new word! I'm not sure if it fits perfectly since I'll have to play with it for a while to see how it really fits in different contexts but I'm sure it's just as valid 😁
Oh man.. I am having kind of a slump and thought about how to describe it to a friend but I couldnt really express it. Maybe unmotivated or kinda depressed, but not really. I have been doing the bare minimum for uni, just to not fall behind although I should put in more effort. I mean, I want to *get* it, like everything behind the things the prof says. Which works great for getting a straight A.
Hopefully, nobody is bothering me for like the next one or two weeks, so I can work through all the stuff by myself.
Also, I binged a lot of your videos. Love your explanations as they are so relatable. Often, when I watch other creators, their take feels wrong. Also also, most comments are really a lot nicer and more relatable as well. :)
I'm building a safe community for us INTJs so I'm glad to hear that even the comment section is fostering that environment. Make sure to carve out time for yourself and actually feel every emotion. You need to get hit by the emotional train before you can get past it. Once you're ready, seek out a Te user, they tend to know how to jump-start our Te. If you don't have one in your life, I recommend motivational videos on RUclips from someone you admire. I'm rooting for you, just don't ever forget to take care of yourself first, fellow INTJ ✊
@@justcallmejon22 Thank you so much for the advice. Will try. Actually, I think, you are spot on. There is a lot going on right now and I really crave some me time.
Please keep doing, what you are doing. :) It really helps, to understand your own thought processes better. Additionally, everyone is so nice. I feel like in other comment sections, people are sometimes invalidated because they like x or have experienced y and, therefore, cannot possibly be a certain type. I mean, there is variance between people, even within the same type.
Thank you..this is so funny...and so true!
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Having things to do and no motivation to do them. It is an INTJ thing, but I also have ADHD. The two are difficult to separate unless I have just taken my Adderall and I still have a despondent outlook. That is the thing you are talking about. I don't get that way very often, and my mood can change in a split second.
Mama and comes and goes as she pleases but I do miss her when she's out 😅
HOW DO WE FIX IT????
The last 10 seconds or so had me spluttering all over my laptop! I was asking the wrongest person the wrongest question! Well, I guess Mama's out here too. Will wait until she's ready.
It would be nice to know her triggers though... Been triggering her too many times of late. Too much uncertainty around me, I guess. Don't feel that sense of control over things anymore. Maybe I've left baby Sean to run amock for too long. Somebody needs to come back and clean house!
I wish I knew! Mama comes and goes as she pleases for me 😅
Loved it, great video
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This is an amazing video that actually does a really good job of explaining things
Thank you 🙏
I literally FORGOT how to talk by accident and completely went blank when I studied for my national exams.
Bro I was selectively mute for 2 years?
Okay....that doesn't sound like an MBTI problem but like, you stressed af problem 😂