@user-kf5qf4op1i No, they both did, China chose wrong because of their ego of superiority and stomped out all internal opposition that wanted to modernized. Japan was humble enough to realize how behind they were, so they were able to modernize in less a decade.
@houayangthe3rd Japan got nuked twice, they didn't have a choice. The same nation that nuked Japan supported the oppressive ROC, which moved to Taiwan after their defeat in the Civil War. There was no superiority or ego. Study history first before saying all of that.
Honestly love the video, very underrated, very informative. China’s sword culture is very similar to europe, excluding the Victorian era romanticism of the long sword and rapier. The lack of this romanticization likely resulted in a less pronounced image into modern culture. With different sword types and subtypes, different regional cultures and different forging techniques, it’s important to note that steel production in places like China/europe/India was varried, with different ways of forging steel aided in the variety of blades that can be produced, along with incredible metallurgy. China just got unlucky in terms of preserving this image, despite this, I’m glad that as time goes forward that more appreciation is given to the Chinese swords, and culture.
Thanks since Covid I've been watching lots of CDramas and trying to learn about the history and todays culture of China. This answers alot of questions. Thanks again.
Although I have played some with some Chinese weapons included (For Honor, Wo Long and few others) I wish it would be more prevalent, which would increase knowledge and curiosity towards the old martial culture.
Actually,China has some complete Tang Dao.However, it has not yet entered the public field, and systematic research on Chinese swords has only achieved sufficient results in recent years.
Chinese swords were considered tools just like in Europe while Japanese swords were considered a badge/part of the warrior himself, this difference led them to cherish and preserve their swords, to bury the swords with the dead while in China, swords were a means to an end, a utilitarian tool which can be replaced anytime and whose purpose was limited to its application, I think in the T'ang Dynasty, there was even a law forbidding people from using swords as grave goods because the state saw swords as valuable utilitarian assets to be used until it was destroyed in the hands of its centralized professional standing army and conscripts, this is a different path to the Europeans who while seeing swords as tools did have a less centralized non professional hereditary military class consisting of only a handful of feudal elites who had enough resources to have more than one sword so having swords for donations, display and funerals was more common which in turn preserved a lot of specimens.
It's a lot simpler than that The japanese Didn't exactly have combat in mind With the katana It was more ceremonial than an actual battlefield Weapon It was rarely drawn in combat outside of beheading your opponent The samurai predominantly used spears polarms and archery from horseback Before the advent of firearms
Japanese school/Ryu of swordsmanship/Kenjutsu, techniques of the katana are many but they all use the sharpened samurai sword besides practising with the wooden sword/bokken especially in Aikido. Other than that there's Iaido/art of drawing the katana/blunt edge and in sports there's Kendo/shinai, bamboo sword. For the chinese sword there are not only plenty of designs/single edge, double edge but many different styles much more complicated to train and practically use it even during those times. Japan preserved her traditions & culture with the katana from forging skills to martial arts practice besides turning it into a sport and inculcating discipline+teachings/Zen through it's mastery and the entire frame work is centralized with regulatory board by the associations & government but PRC did not in fact when PRC was established many swordsmith ran off to ROC due to fear even some masters of the various martial arts. Chinese martial arts of the various styles/unarmed combat needs a trainee to progress into intermediate level before a weapon can be introduced but Japanese martial arts needn't that process, unarmed combat & weapons are separate for instructions. I've been a Chinese martial arts student from 1975-78 in 5 Masters of Shaolin/Goh Chor simultaneously Ving Chun+Long Fist but the only weapon i trained was the long staff, single edge sword & 3-section staff thereafter i finished school. In 1986 i picked my Kendo until 1994, 2009 i started to practice Iaido and move to Kenjutsu in 2012, Art of the Living & Killing Sword at the same time i try to learn Tai-ji Jian/chinese double edge gentleman's sword but i had difficulty progressing and left it at very basic. The complexity of the various styles of the Chinese sword makes it difficult for introducing to the World whereas Kendo/Iaido is found in so many countries across the World covering Europe, the Americas and even in the Middle East; the Art of the Japanese sword has been a friendship of sportsmanship of Yamato/Ippon.
I like Chinese swords as much as Japanese also the Da or Dah of southeast Asia are excellent I had one from Thai land I loved it but it was of average quality not like the ones on the internet thank you for the excellent video 😊😊😊😊😊 and have a good evening.
Sorry have to disagree...on one thing though...Japanese sword for the IJA are not similar to those made by Tosho...Japanese sword for IJA should be called Gunto not the same terms as " katana " or " Uchigatana"... Yes there are japanese blade made by Tosho mounted into Gunto but these are exceptional pieces.... Japanese sword were already manufactured in large quantities and exported to China especially during the Ming Dynasty and Song Dynasty especially, there was even a poem during Song era for japanese sword. The Chinese sword not because could not be famous like Japanese sword...However China produced so many variety of swords FAR MORE than the Japanese, so it is difficult to pinpoint which Chinese sword from which era are representative for Chinese sword culture.... The Japanese sword evolved and settled down at the Tokugawa period during the time of peace became what we are aware today of those Japanese sword. So therefore , its not because Chinese sword are not famous.... but where and when do you start for Chinese sword? It has a long story bro...
counterpoint to reason one: what does a medieval european sword look like? (I'm sure you can visualise one). Now please research all types of swords, falchons, daggers, messers, and so on that were actually in use in a period like the middle ages/renaissance. reason 2, 3 and 4 are valid and really interesting though. As to reason 5, I do not know how true it is, I do not know if kenjutsu and kendo got popular because the katana was famous or if it's the other way around. In europe, as a kid growing up, I knew of karate, judo, jiu-jitsu and aikido way before knowing kenjutsu or kendo were a thing
Another reason was that Japan was more open to Western modernization and was easily able to exchange culture, unlike China.
indeed
Japan didn't have a choice, China did.
@user-kf5qf4op1i No, they both did, China chose wrong because of their ego of superiority and stomped out all internal opposition that wanted to modernized.
Japan was humble enough to realize how behind they were, so they were able to modernize in less a decade.
@houayangthe3rd Japan got nuked twice, they didn't have a choice. The same nation that nuked Japan supported the oppressive ROC, which moved to Taiwan after their defeat in the Civil War.
There was no superiority or ego. Study history first before saying all of that.
@user-kf5qf4op1i "face palm" 😕 😞 sigh go back and read up your history. Japan modernization happened before WW2. Smh your just 😔 😟 🙁 😥 😞 😿 😔
Honestly love the video, very underrated, very informative.
China’s sword culture is very similar to europe, excluding the Victorian era romanticism of the long sword and rapier. The lack of this romanticization likely resulted in a less pronounced image into modern culture.
With different sword types and subtypes, different regional cultures and different forging techniques, it’s important to note that steel production in places like China/europe/India was varried, with different ways of forging steel aided in the variety of blades that can be produced, along with incredible metallurgy. China just got unlucky in terms of preserving this image, despite this, I’m glad that as time goes forward that more appreciation is given to the Chinese swords, and culture.
Thanks since Covid I've been watching lots of CDramas and trying to learn about the history and todays culture of China. This answers alot of questions. Thanks again.
@@Paula-133 thanks, glad you like it😊
We(the US) did kinda drop the sun on Japan twice forcing them to be more open with us. 😶
Another one that I want to add or the 6th reason is that the Hamon on the Japanese sword makes it so beautiful and feels mystical as well.
Although I have played some with some Chinese weapons included (For Honor, Wo Long and few others) I wish it would be more prevalent, which would increase knowledge and curiosity towards the old martial culture.
Actually,China has some complete Tang Dao.However, it has not yet entered the public field, and systematic research on Chinese swords has only achieved sufficient results in recent years.
The miao dao predates the katana
No. The miao dao was influenced by a Katana during the Ming dynasty.
Myth. They're significantly more modern.
i love most chinese swords,LK Chen makes best chinese replicas i love them all
Nice video. You can easily get some tricks about marketing in this video.
Chinese swords were considered tools just like in Europe while Japanese swords were considered a badge/part of the warrior himself, this difference led them to cherish and preserve their swords, to bury the swords with the dead while in China, swords were a means to an end, a utilitarian tool which can be replaced anytime and whose purpose was limited to its application, I think in the T'ang Dynasty, there was even a law forbidding people from using swords as grave goods because the state saw swords as valuable utilitarian assets to be used until it was destroyed in the hands of its centralized professional standing army and conscripts, this is a different path to the Europeans who while seeing swords as tools did have a less centralized non professional hereditary military class consisting of only a handful of feudal elites who had enough resources to have more than one sword so having swords for donations, display and funerals was more common which in turn preserved a lot of specimens.
Well, actually there is 1 performance difference as Japanese Sword just simply deploys faster making it very useful for Iaido.
It's a lot simpler than that The japanese Didn't exactly have combat in mind With the katana It was more ceremonial than an actual battlefield Weapon It was rarely drawn in combat outside of beheading your opponent The samurai predominantly used spears polarms and archery from horseback Before the advent of firearms
這是一個很好的視頻,來自法國的問候你
indian swords are good too...many asian culture aspects also got inspired from buddhism and hinduism..and all that came from india..
Japanese school/Ryu of swordsmanship/Kenjutsu, techniques of the katana are many but they all use the sharpened samurai sword besides practising with the wooden sword/bokken especially in Aikido. Other than that there's Iaido/art of drawing the katana/blunt edge and in sports there's Kendo/shinai, bamboo sword. For the chinese sword there are not only plenty of designs/single edge, double edge but many different styles much more complicated to train and practically use it even during those times. Japan preserved her traditions & culture with the katana from forging skills to martial arts practice besides turning it into a sport and inculcating discipline+teachings/Zen through it's mastery and the entire frame work is centralized with regulatory board by the associations & government but PRC did not in fact when PRC was established many swordsmith ran off to ROC due to fear even some masters of the various martial arts. Chinese martial arts of the various styles/unarmed combat needs a trainee to progress into intermediate level before a weapon can be introduced but Japanese martial arts needn't that process, unarmed combat & weapons are separate for instructions. I've been a Chinese martial arts student from 1975-78 in 5 Masters of Shaolin/Goh Chor simultaneously Ving Chun+Long Fist but the only weapon i trained was the long staff, single edge sword & 3-section staff thereafter i finished school. In 1986 i picked my Kendo until 1994, 2009 i started to practice Iaido and move to Kenjutsu in 2012, Art of the Living & Killing Sword at the same time i try to learn Tai-ji Jian/chinese double edge gentleman's sword but i had difficulty progressing and left it at very basic. The complexity of the various styles of the Chinese sword makes it difficult for introducing to the World whereas Kendo/Iaido is found in so many countries across the World covering Europe, the Americas and even in the Middle East; the Art of the Japanese sword has been a friendship of sportsmanship of Yamato/Ippon.
I like Chinese swords as much as Japanese also the Da or Dah of southeast Asia are excellent I had one from Thai land I loved it but it was of average quality not like the ones on the internet thank you for the excellent video 😊😊😊😊😊 and have a good evening.
If Dynasty warriors has. A less chaotic and story style game more people would know about all the different weapons used in war
One big reason: Chinese think sword as just another tool. Japanese use Katana as cultural representation.
Google yhe Sword of Goujian, a more 2000 year old sword that was discovered in a tomb. China didn't think swords were just tools.
Sorry have to disagree...on one thing though...Japanese sword for the IJA are not similar to those made by Tosho...Japanese sword for IJA should be called Gunto not the same terms as " katana " or " Uchigatana"...
Yes there are japanese blade made by Tosho mounted into Gunto but these are exceptional pieces....
Japanese sword were already manufactured in large quantities and exported to China especially during the Ming Dynasty and Song Dynasty especially, there was even a poem during Song era for japanese sword.
The Chinese sword not because could not be famous like Japanese sword...However China produced so many variety of swords FAR MORE than the Japanese, so it is difficult to pinpoint which Chinese sword from which era are representative for Chinese sword culture....
The Japanese sword evolved and settled down at the Tokugawa period during the time of peace became what we are aware today of those Japanese sword.
So therefore , its not because Chinese sword are not famous.... but where and when do you start for Chinese sword? It has a long story bro...
counterpoint to reason one: what does a medieval european sword look like? (I'm sure you can visualise one). Now please research all types of swords, falchons, daggers, messers, and so on that were actually in use in a period like the middle ages/renaissance.
reason 2, 3 and 4 are valid and really interesting though.
As to reason 5, I do not know how true it is, I do not know if kenjutsu and kendo got popular because the katana was famous or if it's the other way around. In europe, as a kid growing up, I knew of karate, judo, jiu-jitsu and aikido way before knowing kenjutsu or kendo were a thing
Hollywood
Your narration just cured my insomnia. Thanks!
Mongol came ,surrender. Japanese empire came ,surrender. western came ,surrender. That why.
Cmon......we all know why 😏
😂China does not have Samurai or knight class like Japan or Europe.
japanese swordmakers are artisans that produce hiqh quality swords.... while chinese swordmakers produce cheap mass produced swords
That is not really true.
Almost all swords made today are Chinese 😉