Lay is the only chinese member that didn't leave. He just isn't promoting with them right now but he himself and the exo members have made it clear multiple times that he's still in exo.
I think fans should stop saying that as Lay hasn't said one way or another if he is still with EXO after April 2022. All I know is, on his last tour, he almost said Lay from EXO or EXO's Lay but he caught himself when it came to saying EXO. There are clips. In past he didn't do that. He wasn't on the latest album, and it can't be because SK and China relations now, and he wasn't at Chen's wedding which this is the same guy who flew from China to SK to see D.O. off before he left for the military and then jumped back on to the plane back to China the same day. Sure he may not have been able to go but it's been clear for awhile to me anyway that he has no intention of being an EXO member. An honorary one maybe but an actual one, I don't think so. A lot of his interviews say former EXO member or ex EXO member and I don't think that's just the writer assuming because otherwise I would think Lay would make it clear that he was still apart of the group so the one conducting the interview wouldn't be under the impression he was an ex member. Perhaps I'll be happily proven wrong but when the EXO members themselves referred to being a full group as being the eight of them, I kind of think that says enough along with Lay no longer wanting to say he was Lay from EXO anymore.
@@FoodieWorld75 he did said exo lay jang in his last consertes still represent himself as an Exo member , he was traveling holding a "cresm soda" book note and has hid jersey with him , if you the DNA conserte , he had to be respectful to his friends On their own show, sohe refrained from saying lay from EXO , He would not be afraid to say he left the grp , I think we need to focus on supporting them as a gro as Solos too , + most EXO-Ls didn't even stop supporting Luhan or Tao
@@FoodieWorld75 well just cause he's not working with Exo anymore doesn't mean he isn't part of it. I think its we as the fans who failed to evolve and truly support the members in their individual journeys. Lay not visiting to Korea in Chen's wedding doesn't really mean he never congratulated him or anything. He has made a life out for himself in China and is still working on it. Let's not forget Lay's schedule is different from Exo's. He was preparing for his Grandline tour when Chen's wedding took place. If Lay visiting D.O. for his military enlistment wasn't made public then we wouldn't even know that he's still in contact with Exo. It took Exo and Lay 4-5 years to have a album together in Don't Fight the Feeling, it can probably few more years for another when they all feel like it but they still are one group.
@@Tooba-K123 well said, I hate people assuming things and talking on Thier behalf, the most ungrateful thing to do is spreading rumors, then what do we expect from other fandoms
First of all a big THANK YOU for reacting to Exo-M version 🥺 as a Exo-L its always such please to get Exo-M content when most reactors don't react to them either because they're not interested or because of copyright issue. I hope you guys watch EXO's predebut songs along with their Exo-M counterparts.
synchronised dancing is generally credited to the 2.5 gen boy group infinite! They debuted in 2010 and were super tight with their choreo from debut :) Members being synchronised whilst dancing wasn't really the standard pre-infinite / shinee (post 2010ish)
@@Tooba-K123 it might be underrated but I didn’t feel that because I would always listen to their songs I mean I still listen to them and they recently had their comeback too!!
On debut, EXO were 2nd gen. The move to 3rd is around Growl, with EXO being credited as both revitalising Kpop and beginning then defining the 3rd gen. Therefore, as its defining group, EXO are essentially 3rd gen. The differences to the previous generation are generally explained as the increased emphasis on quality performances including more sophisticated dance routines and the more international appeal. Although artists such as TVXQ, BoA and SS501 were already gaining huge popularity in the Asian Market, it was the 3rd gen when groups started to make an impact further afield.
Yes, I react the same way when Chen sings! With my hand on my heart and head shaking. Whew! lol! ... Whenever Lay and EXO members speak on Lay's status, they all call him an EXO member. But I think that's more out of a sense of brotherhood at this point. He did perform on the "Don't Fight the Feeling" video virtually with them a couple of years ago. But relations between China and South Korea are not the best right now. And Lay also is busy being the "King of China." So we won't see OT9 again anytime soon. ... Anyway, it's fun watching you guys go through a similar EXO discovery process that I started in July. Guides are efficient. The Ultimate Guide to EXO is pretty good. But, as new content devouring EXO-L, I learned more about their personalities through fan made videos, their 4 Ladders seasons, and variety show content (They are HILARIOUS on "Knowing Brothers;" and you'll really like the D.O.-focused episode). I learned: D.O. is a chef and adorable, but members FAFO when they tease him too much. Don't be messy around Xiumin. Baekhyun is a genius and very mature, but nuts! Chen is kind, but keep your ears away when he's excited. Chanyeol is super competitive, and step away from him when he's laughing hard. "Kai" is the god of sexy charisma, but Kim Jongin (his real name) is shy and giggly. Sehun is spoiled, but is sweet and extremely loyal to the rest of them. And Suho is a great traveler and brilliant leader, but sucks at games and tells dad jokes. ... In any case, I can't wait to see what you two do next, because it's always fun and relatable watching! Thank you!
Sorry but he will never and he was never the King of China! But Tao is the King of C Pop! Without his sassy Fans Lay would be nothing anymore nowadays ! He use his Fans and beg them to stay! Tao want for his Fans simply a good Life and focus less on him! He is a sucessful Buisnessman and dont need anyone! Even without his Fans he still would be ass rich! ! That is why he earn so much Hate ! Espeacily from Lay Fans who celebrate even the Death of Taos Dad back then! They are disguisting!
I am so glad you also took the time to watch the EXO-M version of "Mama." Now you see why it was important to see both versions. If you watch all versions of everything EXO does -- even if you don't react to both -- you might be able to understand a little more about EXO's mission and everything they have been sent to Earth to do. Although, the EXO-K and EXO-M versions of their MVs may look similar on the surface. None of them ever use the same footage in both MVs. The scenes that look the same only look the same because they wanted them to look the same to establish a connection between the groups or as part of the storyline, etc., but they were all shot separately. Even when all 12 or 9 members are involved in both MVs, it's never the same because the members are all given different parts depending on the version that you watch. The EXO-K or Korean versions are meant to tell the story from EXO-K's point of view, where the EXO-M or Mandarin versions tell EXO-M's side of the story. I'm pretty sure the instrumental and the choreography is 100% the same for both versions of "Mama". The only reason why it might look slightly different is because they are different members, so they all have different dance skills and strengths, etc. For example, the way Kai executes a move will be different than the way Lay does it. However, one reason why I'm pretty sure it's the same choreography is because during their debut showcases, they often performed the song together, combining the Korean and Mandarin lyrics into one performance. Just wait until you hear them perform this song live in concert or during their debut showcase. It would be cool if you watched a live performance where they sang both the Korean and Mandarin versions, but you have to specifically look for a performance where they do both, because in concert most of the time the EXO-M members sang the Korean version. EXO-M rarely performed the Mandarin versions of their songs when they weren't in China. Although, as I said, there are a few early performances where they perform both versions together. What's slightly different with the two versions of "Mama" are the lyrics. If you look up the English translation of the lyrics and compare the Korean and Mandarin versions you will see that the songs are slightly different because in order to convey the same message in different languages you sometimes have to use different words. However, the lyrics are also often different because the story is being told from different perspectives. The EXO-K members have a different viewpoint than the EXO-M members and the message within their songs may resonate differently with a Korean audience than a Chinese audience, etc. Therefore, their songs are designed with that in mind, etc. Plus, if you know what the whole song is talking about and what the lyrics mean it will give you even more insight into why EXO have been sent to Earth and what their mission is all about. Just in case you were wondering, in the beginning EXO's Mandarin MVs were subbed in Korean to help them appeal to a Korean audience. When you see English words those are lyrics that are sung in English and the rest of the song is in Mandarin. Although they were young when they debuted, they aren't that young. Xiumin, the oldest, was about 22 at this time and Sehun and Kai, who are the youngest, were about 18. However, if you remember, Suho and Kai were the members that trained the longest with the company before they debuted. Suho was a trainee for 7 years -- he began when he was about 14 years old (he was about 21 when he debuted) -- and Kai was a trainee for about 6 years -- he started training when he was about 12. But Baekhyun was only a trainee for about 6 months before he debuted. He was one of the older trainees at about 20 years old. So, this just goes to show you the amount of hard work, dedication and talent that EXO has. In the EXO-M MV Xiumin and Kris are the members that do the screamo part. However, although it looks like Kris is the one that does that high note at the end of that section, really the voice you are hearing is Chen. Tao is the one that can flip and jump like that, so he is the one that is always doing it in all of EXO's early MVs. (He does it in both the EXO-M and EXO-K MVs.) If you watch EXO's 23 pre-debut teaser videos, you will see Tao showcasing his martial arts skills and see that all his moves are 100% real. He can really flip and jump and spin like that and if in a battle he could kick butt. The numerous injuries he sustained from having to do those stunts in MVs and during live performances and on variety shows, etc. is one of the reasons why he left the group. The sword is real and he also often uses a staff. He is also the one that sends the butterfly to Sehun in this MV. Tao is the youngest member of EXO-M. (FYI: Tao, and Luhan, are now successful solo artists and CEOs of their own companies/music labels and actors, etc. in China.) Luhan's power is telekinesis, so he can't be "super excited" because it takes concentration and focus in order to make objects move and levitate with your mind. Lay has NOT left the group. He is the only Chinese member who is still part of EXO. Lay was in all of EXO's MVs until the end of 2016, and he would have been participating in ALL of EXO's activities still today if it wasn't for the political issues between the Korean and Chinese government, which prevents him from doing so. He did leave SM Entertainment last year when his contract was up because he is way too busy these days in China running his own companies, as a music producer, actor, model and general spokesperson for almost everything in China, etc. However, if EXO ever wants or needs him for anything he will always be there for them and he has even said that he has been in talks with SM in order to work out a deal that would allow him to still work with EXO in the future. Lay is literally one of the biggest name celebrities in China right now, but he is the first one to make sure people know that he is still a member of EXO and that the group and the members are all VERY important to him. EXO's story is part supernatural and Sci-Fi and part based on reality, which touches on real life events and things that are really happening in the world. And from the very beginning, even during pre-debut days, and everything since then and everything yet to come, it all is connected to this storyline. Everything EXO does and everything you see from them, including Baekhyun and Kai's parts in SuperM, all has something to do with the concept and story that began with "Mama," and each new installment of something from the members expands a little further on EXO's story. Whether it's an MV from the group, a solo project from one of the members, a sub-unit project, a live performance, teaser videos, concert VCRs, or even a good amount of their choreography, it all has been designed to connect to EXO's storyline. And that has now even expanded to include all of SM's artists' and groups' storylines, even SM's older groups and artists who debuted before EXO. It's kind of mind blowing the amount of planning and manipulation SM has been doing over the years to connect all the dots and to continue the story. It gets even crazier when you realize how even the most minute of details were crafted to be a hidden message or detail within that storyline. Nothing is random, and when it comes to EXO, and SM artists in general, if you think something is connected most likely it is. To refresh your memory, here is a list of the members and what their special power is. EXO-K 💦 Suho (Kim JunMyeon) is the leader of the group and he is a lead vocalist -- his power is the ability to control water (Fun fact: Suho in Korean means guardian, as in the guardian of EXO. That's why as the leader of EXO, his stage name is Suho) 💡Baekhyun is a main vocalist and his superpower is the ability to control light. 🔥Chanyeol is the main rapper and lead vocalist -- his power is the ability to control fire and his spirit animal is the phoenix. 🌏D.O. (Do KyungSoo) is a main vocalist and his power is the ability to control earth (dirt) elements, which gives him strength/force. ☄Kai (Kim JongIn) is a main dancer, lead vocalist and sub-rapper and his power is teleportation. (Kai means opening -- as in a door or gateway -- in Chinese, so his stage name is meant to symbolize his role in the group, and as an EXO-K member he was given a Chinese name to symbolize how he is the center of the group that connects everyone together.) 🌪Sehun is the youngest member of the group and he is a lead rapper, lead dancer and a vocalist -- his power is the ability to control wind EXO-M ❄Xiumin (Kim MinSeok) is the oldest member of the group and he is a lead vocalist and lead rapper and his power is the ability to control snow/ice (frost). 🦄 Lay (Zhang Yixing) is the Chinese member of the group, he is a main dancer, lead vocalist and rapper -- his power is the ability to heal anything. 🌩 Chen (Kim JongDae) is a main vocalist and his power is the ability to control thunder/lightning/electricity. (As you can see, Xiumin and Chen were given stage names that sounded more Chinese so they would fit in better in EXO-M because they are the Korean members of the Chinese group.) The Chinese members who have since left the group: 🐉 Kris was the leader of EXO-M, he was a main rapper and vocalist -- his power was the ability to fly and his spirit animal was a dragon (Kris left the group in April 2014.) 💭 Luhan was a main vocalist and his power was telekinesis (the ability to control things with his mind). (Luhan left the group in October 2014.) ⏰Tao (Z.Tao) was a lead rapper and vocalist and the martial artist of the group, so he did the flips and stunts in the group's routines. His power was the ability to control time. (Tao ended activities with EXO in August 2015.)
Each entertainment group has a different style of singing and dancing. SM Entertainment groups are known for their vocals and on point syncronized dancing. SM basically made K-pop what it is today starting with H.O.T, S.E.S, Shinwah and Boa in the 1st Gen, TVXQ, Super Junior, f(x), Girls Generation and Shinee for the 2nd Gen, EXO and Red Velvet for the 3rd Gen and NCT (127, Dream, WayV, U, New Team), Aespa and Riize in the 4th. SM groups are also known for being experimental with their music and dancing. Mama is an excellent example of this, and they have carried that down to their 4th Gen artists ... 😊
Yes, SM's choreography is all about having sharp and angular movements. Each Kpop company has their own signature style when it comes to dancing and singing that sets their artists apart from all others. For example, SM's all about powerhouse vocals and sharp choreography that shows their powerful side. JYP's style of singing is defined as the "half-breath" where they use an airier vocal style and their choreography is designed around the lyrics of the song to mirror the words of the song in the dance moves. If you watch interviews with vocal coaches and choreographers that work with JYP and SM, for example, you will hear them talk about how there is a specific style that defines the company. And on variety shows where SM, JYP and YG artists are on the show together, they often discuss the different styles of their companies when it comes to vocal training and choreography, etc. There are clearly defined differences that have become industry standards. Once you start to recognize those styles, you will be able to tell what company an artist or group is from just by the sound of their song or the style of their choreography. It's also why certain trainees are chosen by a company because their vocal style, dance style or even just their looks are very "SM style" or "JYP style" or "YG style," etc. The top Kpop companies in the industry all have a clearly defined style with everything they do.
Chen is huge soooo huge you need to see his rock'n'roll he is unstoppable, incredibly insane his new Japanese album is uuuuf called "Polaris" and some Exo Rock'n'roll songs like , Drop it ... We don't consider Exo 2nd gen neither 3rd they were a A turning point between the two generations, something new totally different from 2nd gen , I think for the choreo there was specific grps with that sharp moves so it existed already
tbh yes if you wanna watch both then watch both HOWEVER exo did become one group after growl/overdose as a result they're not really exom/exok versions and more just Korean and mandarin versions with the members having more lines depending on the version. I would say yes react to both give the mandarin version some love! back in the day exom was my fave unit! not many people react to both anymore. it would give you an edge over other reactors for the mandarin fans. but also there's interesting different scenes you'd notice that help with the overall story. Lay is Chinese so obviously he'd be in the Chinese unit. If I was you i'd get a piece of paper and write down what unit they are/where in. exo is the very beginning of 3rd gen! for the members you don't know, Luhan (started the song) left in 2014 October for health reasons, lots of IV drip marks where seen on his arms before he left. Tao (one with the sword) left August 2015 again health issues, his situation was scariest for me, the condition of his feet was disgusting, you can search this up online, his father even penned a public letter begging for his to be let go from the company. That last member is K*is a disgusting rapist who is currently in prison for 11 years he left first before Luhan summer time if I remember but honestly he's dead to *most* exols
Kris is not a discussing rapist! Absolutely no evidence has been presented and the person accuser was a ex girlfriend whose close friends of hers have also stated that she lied and there are no other witnesses to corroborate her claims. Because of those facts the case is being reevaluated by the Chinese because Kris is a Canadian citizen. Canadian/ Chinese nationality . And his was a huge star in China before the accusations were lodged against him…” He’ll has no fury like a woman scorned”.
Thanks for reacting to EXO-M version. Since you've already love the group and plan to dive deeper, how about just start the journey chronologically? There are two pre-debut MVs you won't want to miss: "What is Love" & "History", both with EXO-K & EXO-M versions. In addition to the EXO MVs, you can add individual guides, concept guides, members' solo or sub-units songs occasionally. Looking forward to more EXO! Thanks!
That's a very SM thing I feel. SHINee does it too. I haven't paid attention to other group's choreos other than them two so I'm not sure but it feels like an SM thing
7:54 The line distribution was a bit better for EXO-M, compared to EXO-K; even positions were a lot more flexible among EXO-M members, compared to EXO-K, during this era. EXO-M is where EXO's hallmark of having even the rappers be vocals really started to show first. Even their choreo was slightly more balanced in the sense that you can look at the EXO-K and EXO-M choreos for the same song and tell certain members are more hidden and shoved to the back in the EXO-K version (Chanyeol is literally hidden as much as someone his height can be behind others) versus EXO-M's version which has the formations more open to show each member. 9:26 EXO is often considered the turning point of 2nd gen kpop to 3rd; they, themselves, set the marker for 2nd to 3rd for many people. For many, EXO is the start of 3rd gen kpop. This is mostly done because EXO really marks a shift in the market towards marketing to a more international audience. Even some groups that debuted the same year as EXO (2012) but before EXO still retroactively became 3rd gen, because it was easier to say "EXO debuted in 2012; so anyone that debuted in 2012 is 3rd gen"~^.^
I would say started with their mvs in release order (What is Love and History) along with Exo-M versions (you can only react to 2014-15 cause Chinese members left by then), this also includes their winter albums. Then I'd say react to "The Ultimate Guide) by Pastel Kookies and individual guides by Caesar Oh. The concept guides that you started out could be put on hold till you've reacted to enough content. Also to remind you, Exo's Growl also have 2 episode drama and 1 twilight VCR consisting all 12 members.
Back in the day SM was just swimming in trainees with phenomenal voices like they just really won the vocals lottery. These days it's become really hard to find good vocalist trainees so the emphasis has been placed more and more on dance. The only good vocals group I'm looking forward to debuting is YG's Babymonster.
@@Ladybugwaitingformrdarcy I don't mean newer groups are not good at all but none of them are vocalist super groups. They are sufficiently good but not phenomenally good. Like Treasure, Stray Kids, TXT, Enhypen, all of which I enjoy and listen to quite often because I'm very multifandom and in particular will always like every group that comes out of YG, but I would not rank their best vocals Jeongwoo, Seungmin, Taehyun, Heesung up in the same tier as EXO's top 3 and none of those groups have as deep a bench of amazing vocals as EXO does. EXO, Super Junior, BtoB, Infinite have top tier vocal ability. I don't know of any boy group that debuts later than them with vocals that outshine them. Seventeen and EXO are tied for my favorite boy groups but I also do not rank them as high as EXO in vocals. DK and Seungkwan are really good but it's the group's many other strengths that make them tied with EXO as favorites for me. If you know of any group that came later with vocals that can outdo older boy groups, please let me know so I can start following them. In my eyes, audition shows are struggling to find top vocalists. It's easier to find great visuals and great dancers.
@@katy8605 i see what you mean and i agree 100% you are r8.... it is just that I thought your initial comment was about SM artists only if it was not my bad i must have misunderstood... I personally (and it is just my opinion, I am a multy fandom as well) SM boy groups still maintain the bar high amount kpop artists, now do they stand out like EXO? not really !! because I feel SM doesn't showcase their abilities to the best, especially with the title tracks like they did with EXO ( let's be honest those are the ones that attract fans and creat the image of the grp regarding any aspect) cinse the type of songs SM mostly releases since a while are more experimental ... to discover their vocals you need to be someone who listens the b-sides especially NCT 127 since their songs are heavy on the rap too compared to NCT dream and wayv, for BRIIZ they are still new like we saw 2 songs only not counting siren, I can't really speak about it just like NCT Wish (they seem to have it but still to early to say )... nevertheless we still get those beautiful vocal technics, harmonies and high notes that we had with SUJU, SHINEE and EXO,
To make it clear about the members on their comeback/albums: XOXO (Wolf, Growl, MID) : 12 members Overdose: 12 but 2 left before their 1st Concert EXODUS (Call Me Baby): 10 Members (Zitao left during promotion) ; EXODUS Repackaged (Love Me Right, Sing For You): They started promoting as NINE (9) members EX'ACT (Monster & Lotto, For Life) the last album that Lay participated. THE WAR (KOKOBOP, POWER, Universe): 8 members DMUMT (Tempo, Love Shot): 8 Members, Lay only had like a cameo in the MV of Tempo. OBSESSION: 6members (Minseok & Kyungsoo were in military) DFTF: 6 Members but Lay participated in MV & actually part of the entire album. (Jongdae & Junmyeon were serving in military) - 2022 Lay didn't renew his contract with their agency, SM. In this, he can bw considered as former member already and expected to not participate in any EXO activities. - EXIST (2023): 8 Members but only 7 were seen in Cream Soda MV because Jongin suddenly need to enlist in military with late notice. - As a fan since XOXO Era, I hope I made it clear but correct me if I said some confusing or wrong statement. Thank you! ❤✌️🫰
9 members: Lay is in china. Lay is in EXO M version...cold / silver jacket, center. You are totally getting the concept of Chen.....you love his umpf....which is why chen is known as EXO's Powerhouse vocal. Their choreo is a lot of sharp to soft slow smooth then back to sharp. YOu'll see that alot. Their choreos are the best, honestly, I can't get enough of them. Def watch the pre-debut songs, im pretty sure those will be referenced in the second concept vid
-we've watched one! -twice!! I cracked there lol. I think you should go to the ultimate guide first to get to know the members better first. Then maybe go through some mvs then go back to the theory I've been an exol for 10 years and it's still very difficult to grasp 😅😂 It goes back to you and what you wanna know first tho Love this channel.. Keep it on! ✨
I would love to see you watch their exo’rdium accoustic medley. It covers loads of their songs and shows of their vibe as a group, a bit like Killing voice but in a concert setting instead :)
Thanks for the reaction ~ ❤ They only have separate videos for EXO-K EXO-M till 2014, after that it's EXO korean version & chinese version. Because 3 members left from EXO-M left. EXO was like the end of 2nd gen and the beginning of 3rd gen i guess. Hope you react to the music videos first and then check out the concept guide. Before the concept you can check out the individual member guides because it got nothing to do with the storyline 😅❤
Originally there were 12 members, due to disagreements with SM, the three of four Chinese members left, who were in the M version, Luhan, who acts in Cdramas as well as highly successful concerts. Tao, is the marshal artist who does the kick and also has a successful solo career in China, Lay I believe just left SM recently , his career has taken off in so many different ways. Unfortunately Kris is incarcerated in China. Wolf and Growl are another two MVs where all members are present, all talented individually and spectacular together.
Tao the the Marterial Artist and Kris is in Jail for 13 Years for raping Girls ! He will deported to Canada after his Jailtime and isnt allowed ever come back to China!
Lay is the only chinese member that didn't leave. He just isn't promoting with them right now but he himself and the exo members have made it clear multiple times that he's still in exo.
I think fans should stop saying that as Lay hasn't said one way or another if he is still with EXO after April 2022. All I know is, on his last tour, he almost said Lay from EXO or EXO's Lay but he caught himself when it came to saying EXO. There are clips. In past he didn't do that. He wasn't on the latest album, and it can't be because SK and China relations now, and he wasn't at Chen's wedding which this is the same guy who flew from China to SK to see D.O. off before he left for the military and then jumped back on to the plane back to China the same day. Sure he may not have been able to go but it's been clear for awhile to me anyway that he has no intention of being an EXO member. An honorary one maybe but an actual one, I don't think so. A lot of his interviews say former EXO member or ex EXO member and I don't think that's just the writer assuming because otherwise I would think Lay would make it clear that he was still apart of the group so the one conducting the interview wouldn't be under the impression he was an ex member. Perhaps I'll be happily proven wrong but when the EXO members themselves referred to being a full group as being the eight of them, I kind of think that says enough along with Lay no longer wanting to say he was Lay from EXO anymore.
@@FoodieWorld75 he did said exo lay jang in his last consertes still represent himself as an Exo member , he was traveling holding a "cresm soda" book note and has hid jersey with him , if you the DNA conserte , he had to be respectful to his friends On their own show, sohe refrained from saying lay from EXO , He would not be afraid to say he left the grp , I think we need to focus on supporting them as a gro as Solos too , + most EXO-Ls didn't even stop supporting Luhan or Tao
@@FoodieWorld75 well just cause he's not working with Exo anymore doesn't mean he isn't part of it. I think its we as the fans who failed to evolve and truly support the members in their individual journeys. Lay not visiting to Korea in Chen's wedding doesn't really mean he never congratulated him or anything. He has made a life out for himself in China and is still working on it. Let's not forget Lay's schedule is different from Exo's. He was preparing for his Grandline tour when Chen's wedding took place. If Lay visiting D.O. for his military enlistment wasn't made public then we wouldn't even know that he's still in contact with Exo. It took Exo and Lay 4-5 years to have a album together in Don't Fight the Feeling, it can probably few more years for another when they all feel like it but they still are one group.
@@Tooba-K123 we'll have to agree to disagree
@@Tooba-K123 well said, I hate people assuming things and talking on Thier behalf, the most ungrateful thing to do is spreading rumors, then what do we expect from other fandoms
First of all a big THANK YOU for reacting to Exo-M version 🥺 as a Exo-L its always such please to get Exo-M content when most reactors don't react to them either because they're not interested or because of copyright issue. I hope you guys watch EXO's predebut songs along with their Exo-M counterparts.
Ngl I miss EXO-M so much esp Luhan and Tao 😭😭😭 Thanks for reacting to them too.
I mean they have amazing vocalists like Chen and Luhan ❤️🔥
synchronised dancing is generally credited to the 2.5 gen boy group infinite! They debuted in 2010 and were super tight with their choreo from debut :) Members being synchronised whilst dancing wasn't really the standard pre-infinite / shinee (post 2010ish)
I agree infinite had so much synchronization that it always amazed me!
Fr Infinite were so great in synchronization and their songs are also underrated.
@@Tooba-K123 it might be underrated but I didn’t feel that because I would always listen to their songs I mean I still listen to them and they recently had their comeback too!!
I'm super grateful you mentioned SHINee because all I could think about was Sherlock
On debut, EXO were 2nd gen. The move to 3rd is around Growl, with EXO being credited as both revitalising Kpop and beginning then defining the 3rd gen. Therefore, as its defining group, EXO are essentially 3rd gen. The differences to the previous generation are generally explained as the increased emphasis on quality performances including more sophisticated dance routines and the more international appeal. Although artists such as TVXQ, BoA and SS501 were already gaining huge popularity in the Asian Market, it was the 3rd gen when groups started to make an impact further afield.
Thank you so much for reacting to EXO M!!!!! Now I miss Tao and Luhan! I always loved Tao, he is such a talented artist!
8:43 here's my petition to have him make this noise everytime Chen sings😂😅
Yes, I react the same way when Chen sings! With my hand on my heart and head shaking. Whew! lol! ... Whenever Lay and EXO members speak on Lay's status, they all call him an EXO member. But I think that's more out of a sense of brotherhood at this point. He did perform on the "Don't Fight the Feeling" video virtually with them a couple of years ago. But relations between China and South Korea are not the best right now. And Lay also is busy being the "King of China." So we won't see OT9 again anytime soon. ... Anyway, it's fun watching you guys go through a similar EXO discovery process that I started in July. Guides are efficient. The Ultimate Guide to EXO is pretty good. But, as new content devouring EXO-L, I learned more about their personalities through fan made videos, their 4 Ladders seasons, and variety show content (They are HILARIOUS on "Knowing Brothers;" and you'll really like the D.O.-focused episode). I learned: D.O. is a chef and adorable, but members FAFO when they tease him too much. Don't be messy around Xiumin. Baekhyun is a genius and very mature, but nuts! Chen is kind, but keep your ears away when he's excited. Chanyeol is super competitive, and step away from him when he's laughing hard. "Kai" is the god of sexy charisma, but Kim Jongin (his real name) is shy and giggly. Sehun is spoiled, but is sweet and extremely loyal to the rest of them. And Suho is a great traveler and brilliant leader, but sucks at games and tells dad jokes. ... In any case, I can't wait to see what you two do next, because it's always fun and relatable watching! Thank you!
Sorry but he will never and he was never the King of China! But Tao is the King of C Pop! Without his sassy Fans Lay would be nothing anymore nowadays ! He use his Fans and beg them to stay! Tao want for his Fans simply a good Life and focus less on him! He is a sucessful Buisnessman and dont need anyone! Even without his Fans he still would be ass rich! ! That is why he earn so much Hate ! Espeacily from Lay Fans who celebrate even the Death of Taos Dad back then! They are disguisting!
@@manuelaklein9918 Everything will be alright.
I am so glad you also took the time to watch the EXO-M version of "Mama." Now you see why it was important to see both versions. If you watch all versions of everything EXO does -- even if you don't react to both -- you might be able to understand a little more about EXO's mission and everything they have been sent to Earth to do.
Although, the EXO-K and EXO-M versions of their MVs may look similar on the surface. None of them ever use the same footage in both MVs. The scenes that look the same only look the same because they wanted them to look the same to establish a connection between the groups or as part of the storyline, etc., but they were all shot separately. Even when all 12 or 9 members are involved in both MVs, it's never the same because the members are all given different parts depending on the version that you watch. The EXO-K or Korean versions are meant to tell the story from EXO-K's point of view, where the EXO-M or Mandarin versions tell EXO-M's side of the story.
I'm pretty sure the instrumental and the choreography is 100% the same for both versions of "Mama". The only reason why it might look slightly different is because they are different members, so they all have different dance skills and strengths, etc. For example, the way Kai executes a move will be different than the way Lay does it. However, one reason why I'm pretty sure it's the same choreography is because during their debut showcases, they often performed the song together, combining the Korean and Mandarin lyrics into one performance. Just wait until you hear them perform this song live in concert or during their debut showcase. It would be cool if you watched a live performance where they sang both the Korean and Mandarin versions, but you have to specifically look for a performance where they do both, because in concert most of the time the EXO-M members sang the Korean version. EXO-M rarely performed the Mandarin versions of their songs when they weren't in China. Although, as I said, there are a few early performances where they perform both versions together.
What's slightly different with the two versions of "Mama" are the lyrics. If you look up the English translation of the lyrics and compare the Korean and Mandarin versions you will see that the songs are slightly different because in order to convey the same message in different languages you sometimes have to use different words. However, the lyrics are also often different because the story is being told from different perspectives. The EXO-K members have a different viewpoint than the EXO-M members and the message within their songs may resonate differently with a Korean audience than a Chinese audience, etc. Therefore, their songs are designed with that in mind, etc.
Plus, if you know what the whole song is talking about and what the lyrics mean it will give you even more insight into why EXO have been sent to Earth and what their mission is all about.
Just in case you were wondering, in the beginning EXO's Mandarin MVs were subbed in Korean to help them appeal to a Korean audience. When you see English words those are lyrics that are sung in English and the rest of the song is in Mandarin.
Although they were young when they debuted, they aren't that young. Xiumin, the oldest, was about 22 at this time and Sehun and Kai, who are the youngest, were about 18. However, if you remember, Suho and Kai were the members that trained the longest with the company before they debuted. Suho was a trainee for 7 years -- he began when he was about 14 years old (he was about 21 when he debuted) -- and Kai was a trainee for about 6 years -- he started training when he was about 12. But Baekhyun was only a trainee for about 6 months before he debuted. He was one of the older trainees at about 20 years old. So, this just goes to show you the amount of hard work, dedication and talent that EXO has.
In the EXO-M MV Xiumin and Kris are the members that do the screamo part.
However, although it looks like Kris is the one that does that high note at the end of that section, really the voice you are hearing is Chen.
Tao is the one that can flip and jump like that, so he is the one that is always doing it in all of EXO's early MVs. (He does it in both the EXO-M and EXO-K MVs.) If you watch EXO's 23 pre-debut teaser videos, you will see Tao showcasing his martial arts skills and see that all his moves are 100% real. He can really flip and jump and spin like that and if in a battle he could kick butt. The numerous injuries he sustained from having to do those stunts in MVs and during live performances and on variety shows, etc. is one of the reasons why he left the group. The sword is real and he also often uses a staff. He is also the one that sends the butterfly to Sehun in this MV. Tao is the youngest member of EXO-M. (FYI: Tao, and Luhan, are now successful solo artists and CEOs of their own companies/music labels and actors, etc. in China.)
Luhan's power is telekinesis, so he can't be "super excited" because it takes concentration and focus in order to make objects move and levitate with your mind.
Lay has NOT left the group. He is the only Chinese member who is still part of EXO. Lay was in all of EXO's MVs until the end of 2016, and he would have been participating in ALL of EXO's activities still today if it wasn't for the political issues between the Korean and Chinese government, which prevents him from doing so. He did leave SM Entertainment last year when his contract was up because he is way too busy these days in China running his own companies, as a music producer, actor, model and general spokesperson for almost everything in China, etc. However, if EXO ever wants or needs him for anything he will always be there for them and he has even said that he has been in talks with SM in order to work out a deal that would allow him to still work with EXO in the future. Lay is literally one of the biggest name celebrities in China right now, but he is the first one to make sure people know that he is still a member of EXO and that the group and the members are all VERY important to him.
EXO's story is part supernatural and Sci-Fi and part based on reality, which touches on real life events and things that are really happening in the world. And from the very beginning, even during pre-debut days, and everything since then and everything yet to come, it all is connected to this storyline. Everything EXO does and everything you see from them, including Baekhyun and Kai's parts in SuperM, all has something to do with the concept and story that began with "Mama," and each new installment of something from the members expands a little further on EXO's story. Whether it's an MV from the group, a solo project from one of the members, a sub-unit project, a live performance, teaser videos, concert VCRs, or even a good amount of their choreography, it all has been designed to connect to EXO's storyline. And that has now even expanded to include all of SM's artists' and groups' storylines, even SM's older groups and artists who debuted before EXO.
It's kind of mind blowing the amount of planning and manipulation SM has been doing over the years to connect all the dots and to continue the story. It gets even crazier when you realize how even the most minute of details were crafted to be a hidden message or detail within that storyline. Nothing is random, and when it comes to EXO, and SM artists in general, if you think something is connected most likely it is.
To refresh your memory, here is a list of the members and what their special power is.
EXO-K
💦 Suho (Kim JunMyeon) is the leader of the group and he is a lead vocalist -- his power is the ability to control water (Fun fact: Suho in Korean means guardian, as in the guardian of EXO. That's why as the leader of EXO, his stage name is Suho)
💡Baekhyun is a main vocalist and his superpower is the ability to control light.
🔥Chanyeol is the main rapper and lead vocalist -- his power is the ability to control fire and his spirit animal is the phoenix.
🌏D.O. (Do KyungSoo) is a main vocalist and his power is the ability to control earth (dirt) elements, which gives him strength/force.
☄Kai (Kim JongIn) is a main dancer, lead vocalist and sub-rapper and his power is teleportation. (Kai means opening -- as in a door or gateway -- in Chinese, so his stage name is meant to symbolize his role in the group, and as an EXO-K member he was given a Chinese name to symbolize how he is the center of the group that connects everyone together.)
🌪Sehun is the youngest member of the group and he is a lead rapper, lead dancer and a vocalist -- his power is the ability to control wind
EXO-M
❄Xiumin (Kim MinSeok) is the oldest member of the group and he is a lead vocalist and lead rapper and his power is the ability to control snow/ice (frost).
🦄 Lay (Zhang Yixing) is the Chinese member of the group, he is a main dancer, lead vocalist and rapper -- his power is the ability to heal anything.
🌩 Chen (Kim JongDae) is a main vocalist and his power is the ability to control thunder/lightning/electricity.
(As you can see, Xiumin and Chen were given stage names that sounded more Chinese so they would fit in better in EXO-M because they are the Korean members of the Chinese group.)
The Chinese members who have since left the group:
🐉 Kris was the leader of EXO-M, he was a main rapper and vocalist -- his power was the ability to fly and his spirit animal was a dragon (Kris left the group in April 2014.)
💭 Luhan was a main vocalist and his power was telekinesis (the ability to control things with his mind). (Luhan left the group in October 2014.)
⏰Tao (Z.Tao) was a lead rapper and vocalist and the martial artist of the group, so he did the flips and stunts in the group's routines. His power was the ability to control time. (Tao ended activities with EXO in August 2015.)
Fun fact: Luhan was every EXO-L's heart throb and 1st bias and most probably changed their bias to Baekhyun or Kai after Luhan left
Agree, he was everyone's bias and mine too. After he left the group, I continued to follow and support his career in China 🥰
He was mine with xiumin and boy do i miss xiuhan
EXO is 3rd gen guys. Back then the dances used to be more sharply or pointed but it improves and changes more as the years go
Each entertainment group has a different style of singing and dancing. SM Entertainment groups are known for their vocals and on point syncronized dancing. SM basically made K-pop what it is today starting with H.O.T, S.E.S, Shinwah and Boa in the 1st Gen, TVXQ, Super Junior, f(x), Girls Generation and Shinee for the 2nd Gen, EXO and Red Velvet for the 3rd Gen and NCT (127, Dream, WayV, U, New Team), Aespa and Riize in the 4th.
SM groups are also known for being experimental with their music and dancing. Mama is an excellent example of this, and they have carried that down to their 4th Gen artists ... 😊
Yes, SM's choreography is all about having sharp and angular movements. Each Kpop company has their own signature style when it comes to dancing and singing that sets their artists apart from all others. For example, SM's all about powerhouse vocals and sharp choreography that shows their powerful side. JYP's style of singing is defined as the "half-breath" where they use an airier vocal style and their choreography is designed around the lyrics of the song to mirror the words of the song in the dance moves.
If you watch interviews with vocal coaches and choreographers that work with JYP and SM, for example, you will hear them talk about how there is a specific style that defines the company. And on variety shows where SM, JYP and YG artists are on the show together, they often discuss the different styles of their companies when it comes to vocal training and choreography, etc. There are clearly defined differences that have become industry standards.
Once you start to recognize those styles, you will be able to tell what company an artist or group is from just by the sound of their song or the style of their choreography. It's also why certain trainees are chosen by a company because their vocal style, dance style or even just their looks are very "SM style" or "JYP style" or "YG style," etc.
The top Kpop companies in the industry all have a clearly defined style with everything they do.
It's been awhile since I saw a reaction to EXO-M, it made me teary🥹 I miss them specially our deer Luhan and panda Tao
Chen is huge soooo huge you need to see his rock'n'roll he is unstoppable, incredibly insane his new Japanese album is uuuuf called "Polaris" and some Exo Rock'n'roll songs like , Drop it ... We don't consider Exo 2nd gen neither 3rd they were a A turning point between the two generations, something new totally different from 2nd gen , I think for the choreo there was specific grps with that sharp moves so it existed already
tbh yes if you wanna watch both then watch both HOWEVER exo did become one group after growl/overdose as a result they're not really exom/exok versions and more just Korean and mandarin versions with the members having more lines depending on the version. I would say yes react to both give the mandarin version some love! back in the day exom was my fave unit! not many people react to both anymore. it would give you an edge over other reactors for the mandarin fans. but also there's interesting different scenes you'd notice that help with the overall story. Lay is Chinese so obviously he'd be in the Chinese unit. If I was you i'd get a piece of paper and write down what unit they are/where in. exo is the very beginning of 3rd gen!
for the members you don't know, Luhan (started the song) left in 2014 October for health reasons, lots of IV drip marks where seen on his arms before he left. Tao (one with the sword) left August 2015 again health issues, his situation was scariest for me, the condition of his feet was disgusting, you can search this up online, his father even penned a public letter begging for his to be let go from the company. That last member is K*is a disgusting rapist who is currently in prison for 11 years he left first before Luhan summer time if I remember but honestly he's dead to *most* exols
Kris is not a discussing rapist! Absolutely no evidence has been presented and the person accuser was a ex girlfriend whose close friends of hers have also stated that she lied and there are no other witnesses to corroborate her claims. Because of those facts the case is being reevaluated by the Chinese because Kris is a Canadian citizen. Canadian/ Chinese nationality . And his was a huge star in China before the accusations were lodged against him…” He’ll has no fury like a woman scorned”.
Thanks for reacting to EXO-M version. Since you've already love the group and plan to dive deeper, how about just start the journey chronologically?
There are two pre-debut MVs you won't want to miss: "What is Love" & "History", both with EXO-K & EXO-M versions.
In addition to the EXO MVs, you can add individual guides, concept guides, members' solo or sub-units songs occasionally.
Looking forward to more EXO! Thanks!
Glad SM didn't blocked the reaction video since most of time they blocking any reaction to EXO-M music video
EXO Choreography is unique because the steps coincide with the beats of their songs. They also incorporate a lot of their powers into their dances.
That's a very SM thing I feel.
SHINee does it too. I haven't paid attention to other group's choreos other than them two so I'm not sure but it feels like an SM thing
7:54 The line distribution was a bit better for EXO-M, compared to EXO-K; even positions were a lot more flexible among EXO-M members, compared to EXO-K, during this era. EXO-M is where EXO's hallmark of having even the rappers be vocals really started to show first. Even their choreo was slightly more balanced in the sense that you can look at the EXO-K and EXO-M choreos for the same song and tell certain members are more hidden and shoved to the back in the EXO-K version (Chanyeol is literally hidden as much as someone his height can be behind others) versus EXO-M's version which has the formations more open to show each member.
9:26 EXO is often considered the turning point of 2nd gen kpop to 3rd; they, themselves, set the marker for 2nd to 3rd for many people. For many, EXO is the start of 3rd gen kpop. This is mostly done because EXO really marks a shift in the market towards marketing to a more international audience. Even some groups that debuted the same year as EXO (2012) but before EXO still retroactively became 3rd gen, because it was easier to say "EXO debuted in 2012; so anyone that debuted in 2012 is 3rd gen"~^.^
all the martial arts moves in this video were Tao
Don't overthink. Just enjoy. You will live it.
The line distribution in EXO-M versions doesn't always match up with what you're expecting
Thank you for reactiong to the M version!!
I would say started with their mvs in release order (What is Love and History) along with Exo-M versions (you can only react to 2014-15 cause Chinese members left by then), this also includes their winter albums. Then I'd say react to "The Ultimate Guide) by Pastel Kookies and individual guides by Caesar Oh. The concept guides that you started out could be put on hold till you've reacted to enough content. Also to remind you, Exo's Growl also have 2 episode drama and 1 twilight VCR consisting all 12 members.
We're the same,whenever Chen comes,my emotion gets shot up too.
Back in the day SM was just swimming in trainees with phenomenal voices like they just really won the vocals lottery. These days it's become really hard to find good vocalist trainees so the emphasis has been placed more and more on dance. The only good vocals group I'm looking forward to debuting is YG's Babymonster.
really i'd love to hear from you these no so good artists / vocalist from SM in recent days !! honest curiosity !
@@Ladybugwaitingformrdarcy I don't mean newer groups are not good at all but none of them are vocalist super groups. They are sufficiently good but not phenomenally good. Like Treasure, Stray Kids, TXT, Enhypen, all of which I enjoy and listen to quite often because I'm very multifandom and in particular will always like every group that comes out of YG, but I would not rank their best vocals Jeongwoo, Seungmin, Taehyun, Heesung up in the same tier as EXO's top 3 and none of those groups have as deep a bench of amazing vocals as EXO does. EXO, Super Junior, BtoB, Infinite have top tier vocal ability. I don't know of any boy group that debuts later than them with vocals that outshine them. Seventeen and EXO are tied for my favorite boy groups but I also do not rank them as high as EXO in vocals. DK and Seungkwan are really good but it's the group's many other strengths that make them tied with EXO as favorites for me. If you know of any group that came later with vocals that can outdo older boy groups, please let me know so I can start following them. In my eyes, audition shows are struggling to find top vocalists. It's easier to find great visuals and great dancers.
@@katy8605 i see what you mean and i agree 100% you are r8.... it is just that I thought your initial comment was about SM artists only if it was not my bad i must have misunderstood...
I personally (and it is just my opinion, I am a multy fandom as well) SM boy groups still maintain the bar high amount kpop artists, now do they stand out like EXO? not really !! because I feel SM doesn't showcase their abilities to the best, especially with the title tracks like they did with EXO ( let's be honest those are the ones that attract fans and creat the image of the grp regarding any aspect) cinse the type of songs SM mostly releases since a while are more experimental ... to discover their vocals you need to be someone who listens the b-sides especially NCT 127 since their songs are heavy on the rap too compared to NCT dream and wayv, for BRIIZ they are still new like we saw 2 songs only not counting siren, I can't really speak about it just like NCT Wish (they seem to have it but still to early to say )... nevertheless we still get those beautiful vocal technics, harmonies and high notes that we had with SUJU, SHINEE and EXO,
To make it clear about the members on their comeback/albums:
XOXO (Wolf, Growl, MID) : 12 members
Overdose: 12 but 2 left before their 1st Concert
EXODUS (Call Me Baby): 10 Members (Zitao left during promotion) ;
EXODUS Repackaged (Love Me Right, Sing For You): They started promoting as NINE (9) members
EX'ACT (Monster & Lotto, For Life) the last album that Lay participated.
THE WAR (KOKOBOP, POWER, Universe): 8 members
DMUMT (Tempo, Love Shot): 8 Members, Lay only had like a cameo in the MV of Tempo.
OBSESSION: 6members (Minseok & Kyungsoo were in military)
DFTF: 6 Members but Lay participated in MV & actually part of the entire album. (Jongdae & Junmyeon were serving in military)
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2022 Lay didn't renew his contract with their agency, SM. In this, he can bw considered as former member already and expected to not participate in any EXO activities.
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EXIST (2023): 8 Members but only 7 were seen in Cream Soda MV because Jongin suddenly need to enlist in military with late notice.
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As a fan since XOXO Era, I hope I made it clear but correct me if I said some confusing or wrong statement. Thank you! ❤✌️🫰
9 members: Lay is in china. Lay is in EXO M version...cold / silver jacket, center. You are totally getting the concept of Chen.....you love his umpf....which is why chen is known as EXO's Powerhouse vocal. Their choreo is a lot of sharp to soft slow smooth then back to sharp. YOu'll see that alot. Their choreos are the best, honestly, I can't get enough of them.
Def watch the pre-debut songs, im pretty sure those will be referenced in the second concept vid
-we've watched one!
-twice!!
I cracked there lol.
I think you should go to the ultimate guide first to get to know the members better first.
Then maybe go through some mvs then go back to the theory
I've been an exol for 10 years and it's still very difficult to grasp 😅😂
It goes back to you and what you wanna know first tho
Love this channel.. Keep it on! ✨
Lay arrived in Korea Nov. 5th. Here is hoping they record something with him. 🙏
next "HISTORY" versi EXO K and EXO M
love these reactions !!
exo is 3rd gen btw
Exo actually started 3rd generation that's why their earlier songs seems more 2nd generationish.
Aeeeeee MAMA versão Chinesa❤❤❤
I would love to see you watch their exo’rdium accoustic medley. It covers loads of their songs and shows of their vibe as a group, a bit like Killing voice but in a concert setting instead :)
if need more rocker jongdae..u can listen his latest album🔥🔥
Thanks for the reaction ~ ❤
They only have separate videos for EXO-K EXO-M till 2014, after that it's EXO korean version & chinese version. Because 3 members left from EXO-M left.
EXO was like the end of 2nd gen and the beginning of 3rd gen i guess.
Hope you react to the music videos first and then check out the concept guide. Before the concept you can check out the individual member guides because it got nothing to do with the storyline 😅❤
There is so much, but please, you MUST listen to What Is Love, especially since you just reacted to Mama. ❤❤❤❤
Originally there were 12 members, due to disagreements with SM, the three of four Chinese members left, who were in the M version, Luhan, who acts in Cdramas as well as highly successful concerts. Tao, is the marshal artist who does the kick and also has a successful solo career in China, Lay I believe just left SM recently , his career has taken off in so many different ways. Unfortunately Kris is incarcerated in China. Wolf and Growl are another two MVs where all members are present, all talented individually and spectacular together.
Tao the the Marterial Artist and Kris is in Jail for 13 Years for raping Girls ! He will deported to Canada after his Jailtime and isnt allowed ever come back to China!
allegedly Xiumin is a vampire !! :)
Many say that Exo belongs to the third generation but in reality they closed the second generation and are within the third...
I think you should watch the guide first
React to "what's love" exo k next pls
I like exo-k version
both are great ✨✨