BAND OF BROTHERS | Part 9: Why We Fight | First Time Watching | TV Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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Easy Company finally enter Germany, to little resistance, and have a chance to relax for the first time in a long while. A patrol in a nearby forest discovers an abandoned Nazi concentration camp, still filled with emaciated prisoners. Locals refuse to acknowledge the camp's existence.
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Original Show: Band of Brothers
The story of Easy Company, 506th Regiment of the 101st Airborne Division from 1942 to the end of World War II. A collection of fifty portraits illustrated by archive footage and recounted in voice.
First episode date: 9 September 2001
Adapted from: Band of Brothers
Directed by: Phil Alden Robinson; Richard Loncraine; Mikael Salomon; David Nutter; Tom Hanks; David Leland; David Frankel; Tony To
Producers: Gary Goetzman; Tony To; Erik Bork; Erik Jendresen; Stephen E. Ambrose; Mary Richards
Budget: $125 million
Written by: Erik Jendresen; Tom Hanks; John Orloff; E. Max Frye; Graham Yost; Bruce C. McKenna; Erik Bork
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The bit about the not feeding them and keeping them in the camps was true. It was for their own safety. The producers kept this as lifelike as possible, and this episode, along with actual film shot of the camps should be compulsory viewing during history lessons at school, so that it is never forgotten.
"Murders are not monsters, they're men. And that's the most terrifying thing about them" -Alice Sebold
When filming this episode, they brought in cancer patients and other terminal ones. They even volunteered to be the prisoners. When asked why, one said, "Lest we forget".
Also, the actors of Easy Company purposely did not see the camp prior to filming, so the reactions you see on films are their genuine reactions.
Point of clarification, it wasn't that they purposefully didn't go, but that they were strictly forbidden from seeing it.
@@canadian__ninja I read an interview where they had said they were given the option to view the set prior to filming, but chose not to.
Theory: So it's possible some chose not to, and so in order to preserve the scene, the rest were forbidden.
@@Pecos1 you could be right, what I said is just what I remember hearing. I don't remember what the source was
What happened was Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks offered Ross McCall, who played Liebgott, the chance to actually go to Saxenhausen concentration camp, of which this was a satellite work camp. He thought about it and decided that he wasn't going to go. He said that he had been trying to get inside Liebgott's head, to try and see things the way he saw them, and wanted his experience of the work camp to be the first time Liebgott saw it on screen. The others heard this and decided to go along with McCall's decision.
@@russelmurphy4868
_He said that he had been trying to get inside Liebgott's head, to try and see things the way he saw them_
You do realize that what is shown in Band of Brothers is a fictionalized version of the liberation of Kaufering IV (Hurlach)? None the liberation scenes actually happened in real life. Kaufering IV (Hurlach) was actually found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945 with Easy Company actually arriving on April 28, the day after the camp had been liberated.
One of the craziest facts about all this is how young these men were, it just blows my mind every time I think of it. Most of them were between 20 and 22, and the more senior ones like Nixon and Winters and Welsh were all of 26, when Normandie happened. Speirs was 24.. o.O
There were a lot of kids that were 16-17 years old that lied to get in the war too. They were so so young. There was an immense amount of guilt for boys who couldn't fight in the war..even those with physical disablities.
Those men were built different. I’m 30 and I still feel like im just a young kid
@@Greatwealthgentleman You do what you gotta do when you gotta do it. People can stand a lot if they have to.
When I got out of the Corps at age 26, I was one of the "old men". Then I transitioned into civilian life, and was immediately treated like a child, even after spending 8 years doing stuff that most people never get to do.
Now, when I look at pictures of my time in, I realize how young were were, we do look like kids in those pics. But we were only young on the outside, and we never did anything like what the guys portrayed in this series had to do.
Oh, and I wasn't anything special, as a Marine. But while here in the "real world" we wouldn't trust a 19 year old to get coffee for the office, in the military, that 19 year old is given responsibilities that are sometimes unthinkable to most who haven't been there.
@@crowttubebot3075 man you were special..thanks for your service to our country. I mean it.
The name of the concentration camp they came across is Kaufering concentration camp complex Kaufering Lager IV involved Messerschmitt AG Operational 18 June 1944-27 April 1945 Inmates Mostly Jews Number of inmates 30,000. There are pictures of the camp out there and this show did it justice. Looked exactly like it, down to the way the huts looked.
I just found your channel today! I am so thankful for soft hearted caring men like yourself. I took a deep dive on ww2 and band of brothers a few months back. You're reactions are exact to mine. I've never been so captivated by a documentary series and the truth of ww2 or any wars at that.... God bless!
Kev I also broke in tears when I heard that one man who had carried that poor guy in his arms he said in croatian(my language) "guys please help him he is still alive, you can still help him please," it is so heartbreaking what that poor people has gone through 😢😢
oh my god, this is so heartbreaking, hits so hard to know what he said. I´m in tears 😥
The detail of the camp scene is truly horrific in how accurate it is. What's more frightening is that they only showed a fraction of the horror that was the concentration camps.
Right now there's an Auschwitz exhibition not far from where I live here in Sweden, I went to it, and it was horrible. Interesting but horrible. There were so many personal items on display, the one that broke me was a house key. Someone locked their door went to Auschwitz and was never seen again. So many lives lost. We can never forget what happened in ww2.
Vart var denna? Hade gärna velat se den.
Refeeding syndrome is very real, and many liberated did die from too much food too quickly. The prisoners and the rank and file soldiers didn't know about it and just wanted to get them whatever food they could. It's so dangerous, but known well enough now, that people who adopt children from certain international institutions (where children are basically fed only enough to just stay alive) have very specific feeding schedules overseen by doctors specialized in it.
Scary institutions like that still exist to this day :(
I went 21 days with zero nutrition in the hospital. When I finally ate, I puked after a bowl and a half of jello. And that was medically supervised-I can’t even imagine how it was for them. You can’t help yourself once you finally get food again.
I met a woman who was in a camp in Poland with her sister. They were twins and were used for medical experiments. She and her sister lived to almost 90 yrs old. She still had her number tattooed on her arm. She was a lovely woman.
A thought occurs. I love history, and WWII is one of my favorite subjects. During the Nuremberg Trials, the defense statements from the Nazis on trial (Hermann Goering, Wilhelm Keitel, Alfred Jodl, Julius Streicher, etc) are some of the most deranged I've ever heard from a defendant on trial; full of conspiracy theories, hatred, and paranoia. Many involved in the camps, such as Amon Goth, believed they were carving history for an Aryan world.
My question for them is, if they truly believed what they were doing was right, that the genocide of over 11,000,000 people was essential to the future of the world, then why did they run? Why did many choose fleeing the country or suicide if they truly believed they were not in the wrong at all for so much death? Pointing at piles and piles of bodies and saying "This is right" is the act of an absolute madman. Absolute lack of morals.
The German woman's husband was in the Wehrmacht, not the SS, which ran the camps. The black ribbon on the frame indicates that he was already dead.
Ahh right, thank you for the clarification mate
BTW, just another "inaccuracy" will pop up in the final episode- you may see a someone you've seen before
The black stripe meant dead? I never noticed the black stripe until this comment thank you for pointing it out and the info
In highschool we had Holocaust survivors come and speak. They said soldiers would give their food and candy bars. The ones who ate died shortly. You cannot starve people then feed them too quickly
It would extract every bit of moisture from their bodies.
@@sspdirect02 Yeah, huge chemical imbalances. Awful stuff.
Very true. It's truly heartbreaking that they had to put them back in the camp but it needed to be done so that they could get the proper care they needed.
I don’t really have anything to say but thank you for your genuine, empathetic reaction.
No problem at all my friend and thank you for the comment
How do you talk about it? that's just it mate we talk about it. over and over and over again so its never forgotten. and then one day hopefully in the far future we will actually learn.... I loved this reaction brother. Honest, earnest an true , from a kiwi vet to a brit thank you for this.
Thanks for the comment brother, really appreciate it!
@@SofaandChillAs far as the prisoners in the camps, what you were asking about was true. They had to stop feeding them due to the risk of “refeeding syndrome” so the prisoners would not eat themselves to death. Also, they had to remain in the camps until doctors and medical staff could secure the place and start treating them. With the mass amount of dead bodies that were decaying combined with the horrid conditions of squalor the survivors were stuck in, the camp was an absolute disease pit with the survivors having scabies among many other contagious diseases. They couldn’t just let them loose and run free in the city. If those conditions were stumbled upon today, you would need a hazmat suit with a gas mask to safely go through there. The soldiers that liberate those camps took personal risk just walking amongst them.
I don’t know how many times I’ve actually watched this episode, never mind how many reactions I’ve watched, yet still man’s inhumanity to man never stops hitting me right between the eyes to make me weep, incredible episode on so many levels, love your reaction as always.
One of my uncles participated in the liberation of at least one of the camps. From what I understand, it happened almost like it was depicted in this episode. There had been rumors of prisoner of war camps and work camps but nothing about the conditions. Nothing prepared these men for what they found. It haunted my uncle until the day he died last year.
The one time we see Lieutenant Speirs shocked and speechless. Almost in tears. 😞
The most poignant moment in this series, IMHO, when Liebgott breaks down after telling the prisoners they have to return to the camp. After all the tragedy and death he'd seen, this is what breaks him down. He was half Jewish by birth, btw.
I have heard and read so many different things about what he was and his religion.
@@omalleycaboose5937 his parents were mixed faith. He was actually raised in the Catholic church.
@@ungenerationed9022 This is true, he was half Jewish, but was raised Catholic.
_The most poignant moment in this series, IMHO, when Liebgott breaks down after telling the prisoners they have to return to the camp._
Didn't actually happen in real life. The camp shown in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV (Hurlach) which was actually found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945 with Easy Company actually arriving on April 28.
Ross McCall nailed this and this has always stuck with me. He had a very important job and he did it for history.
Everyone in my ex-wife's extended family, except her grandparents and father, were murdered during the Holocaust. Her grandparents and father got out of Austria on the last transport to the US. This is very personal to me. Some of the camp prisoners were cancer patients who felt so strongly about doing this scene they risked their own lives to film it. Some of them didn't live to see this released. We must never forget why they fought.
Tom Hanks had a cameo in this episode, he is the guy executing German soldiers by the side of the road.
For the last episode the following information will help:
An enlisted man needed a score of eighty-five points to be considered for demobilization. The scores were determined as follows:
Month in service = 1 point each
Month in service overseas = 1 point each, in addition to month in service
Combat award (Medal of Honor, Distinguished Service Medal, Silver Star Medal, Soldier's Medal, Bronze Star Medal, Purple Heart) or campaign participation star = 5 points each
Dependent child under eighteen years old (Up to 3) = 12 points each
Why would you jump ahead like that? F*ckin hell Chet
@@krisfrederick5001 Relax it's not that kind of show. It's not like running out of The Empire Strikes Back and shouting Vader is Luke's father!
@@ronweber1402 Lol Nice, we were just asked about spoilers. Wait, what?!
@@krisfrederick5001 to be fair this isn’t necessarily a spoiler, if Kev reads this and has it in his head going into 10 then that just helps him understand what’s going on, so don’t kick off about it
@@rhysevans4253 Fair enough my friend
Kev, this episode makes me cry, every time I watch it. Including this time.
My Uncle Jimmy was my grandmother's brother. Throughout my life he was one of the kindest, most gentle, and most tolerant of men. Despite growing up in the Deep South during the height of racist culture there, he never hated anyone for their skin color, and treated everyone with respect. He was the kind of "fun uncle" who'd take you on zoo trips and buy you milkshakes, and show up with bags of candy. He's the one who taught me how to play checkers, and go fish.
And he absolutely hated anything to do with Germany with the fiery heat of a thousand raging suns. German food, German people, German made commodities. He refused to have anything to do with them. And I never knew why until after he died in 1990. His wife, my Aunt Doris, finally explained it to me. You see, during World War II, Jimmy was a soldier in the 9th Armored Infantry Battalion, 6th Armored Division, and they took part in the liberation of Buchenwald, and it changed him deeply. Doris was Jewish, and their mixed marriage was considered all but forbidden in the deeply Baptist south, but he fell in love with her and didn't give a care about her religion. According to Doris, Jimmy told her that when he was working as a soldier during the liberation and clearing of Buchenwald, he kept seeing her face on the faces of the female prisoners. And from that day forward, he considered the Germans the most evil, untrustworthy, and most inhuman people on the planet.
This made me tear up!!!!
Couple of points. Notice several characters complaining about their ills... Until they see the camp. Also, multiple soldiers removing their helmets as they enter the camp, symbolizing the transition of their function from combat to humanitarian. Wearing headgear has significance in the military. Finally, a fun fact. That officer executing the German officers/guards was played by Tom Hanks.
I thought they were free French executing vishy French.
In case you are interested, this is the song they were singing....
[Verse 1]
He was just a rookie trooper and he surely shook with fright,
He checked off his equipment and made sure his pack was tight;
He had to sit and listen to those awful engines roar,
You ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
He ain't gonna jump no more
[Verse 2]
"Is everybody happy?" cried the Sergeant looking up,
Our hero feebly answered, "yes" and then they stood him up;
He jumped into the icy blast, his static line unhooked,
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
[Verse 3]
He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock,
He felt the wind, he felt the cold, he felt the awful drop,
The silk from his reserves spilled out, and wrapped around his legs,
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
[Verse 4]
The risers swung around his neck, connectors cracked his dome,
Suspension lines were tied in knots around his skinny bones;
The canopy became his shroud; he hurtled to the ground.
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
[Verse 5]
The days he'd lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind,
He thought about the girl back home, the one he'd left behind;
He thought about the medic corps, and wondered what they'd find,
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
[Verse 6]
The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild,
The medics jumped and screamed with glee, they rolled their sleeves and smiled,
For it had been a week or more since last a 'chute had failed,
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
[Verse 7]
He hit the ground, the sound was "SPLAT", his blood went spurting high;
His comrades, they were heard to say "a hell of a way to die!"
He lay there, rolling 'round in the welter of his gore,
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
[Verse 8]
There was blood upon the risers, there were brains upon the chute,
Intestines were a-dangling from his paratroopers suit,
He was a mess, they picked him up, and poured him from his boots,
And he ain't gonna jump no more
[Chorus]
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
Gory, gory, what a hell of a way to die,
He ain't gonna jump no more
Blood on the risers
A person who has been starving for so long will eat anything in sight and won't stop. Their body can't handle that much food. I don't know the pathology of it but by locking them back up and monitoring their food intake, they saved their lives.
It's called refeeding syndrome, if anyone wants to read up on it. It's horrible that the only way they could protect the survivors was to lock them back in for observation. I can't even imagine the panic they must have felt, learning that they had to stay after the relief of being liberated. It really just breaks my heart.
There's a good article on refeeding syndrome in Wikipedia. It's not about "eating anything in sight and not stopping". It's about the adjustments the body has previously made to stay alive when starving, and how after those adjustments, even a normal amount of food can cause biochemical catastrophe. Feeding people who have been starving has to be done with extreme care; we learned a lot about it from unfortunate mistakes made when trying to help victims of the Nazis.
I cannot imagine holding whats left of my father hoping it’s not too late 😭
Now that you have seen this episode, you can understand why folks suggested you hold off on reacting to Schindler's List un til after you saw this. This way, you can decide when you are ready to deal with this subject matter in a full movie, now that you have had some exposure to it in the historical TV show format. 💯✌
I know everyone else will be talking about the big thing in the episode so I'll talk about how much I love the scene with Nix and Winters about the demotion and the troubled jump.
My late father helped feed & treat many of the concentration camp victims being attached to the medical corp and following behind the 506th. He had nightmares for years after the war.
In the 1960s my dad worked with an army vet who had taken part in the liberation of one the camps. The vet said you couldn't believe people would do those sort of things to other people.
Finally, this is the toughest one, I told you to brace yourself. War movies and shows are always intriguing and entertaining, but when it’s real life... it changes you.
Yeah well, don't brag too much. You guys put up the 'Beware' signs and then the reactor feels like they need to react a certain way in order to meet your expectations. Not sure it matters much with this guy, who really is invested in the story and gets it, but for many other reactors you put them in a bind. Don't do it anymore please.
When I first heard about the Holocaust, I was like, "How could people just let that happen?" But then I look at what's going on in the US right now, and it's like the universe is saying, "This is how." So yeah, be careful what you ask for, I guess.
My dad was a captain in us army. He told me about the camp were Germans had to bury dead Jews before this came out. I think it was the most proud military brass ever made him.
Thank you for being so candid. This episode is pretty personal to me. So just thank you.
Also, they did keep them in the camps because of typhus that almost all of them had BUT they were cared for by doctors and treated as gently, kindly, and compassionately by the nurses that took care of them. They were reassured that they were free. The American soldiers were always looked at like saviors to them. Leibgott(?) actually was so affected by it that he didn't even show up to reunions apparently. Poor thing.
Every year this series is shown on the history Channel, it's for the entire series on one day...I watch it every year as respect to those who've served and currently serves...
The actors who worked on this series know how important their job was. And to this day they take it seriously. They always attend reunions and just did long sit down interviews at the ww2 museum for the 20th anniversary of the show premiering. And Ross McCall had the most important job in my opinion. Point blank period. I won't forget his performance. Ever.its the first thing I think about when I remember this show
The thing with eating themself to death is actually true. When you haven’t eaten for several days you can’t just eat even normal portions of food. Truly horrific
This episode makes me cry no matter how many times I've seen it. The power behind it never ceases to hit me.
The ordinary soldiers didn’t. know but the generals knew and Roosevelt and Churchill knew.
Wow, that is crazy!
The 2 best//worst episodes, Breaking Point is the devastation of losing the characters we've come to love, and Why We Fight, reminds us that we have a hideous and inhumane history that most rarely think about, and we're reminded of the horrors of the war in a different way. Honestly the fact that they had this episode despite it being a bit historically inaccurate (but who cares) is fantastic, we need to be reminded of these events so they aren't forgotten. I watched and then read the Diary of Anne Frank when i was 10 or 11 and that was my first time learning about the camps. And i was 13 the first time i watched this series, the telling of the camps in this episode were so much more educational then reading it in class. One episode to go and i really can't wait for you to link who is who for the intros :) Well done getting through this episode! Amazing reaction video as always! :)
I read Anne Frank's diary when I was twelve, the same age as she was when she died, and it had a tremendous impact on me. I'm not Jewish, but my parents had multiple Jewish friends and I knew them all my life.
I took a class on the Holocaust in film and literature in college.
The final exam was a single essay question:
Given everything that you have watched and read this semester, how do you think that so many ordinary people could be driven to do such inhumane things to others?
I answered with a single sentence:
I hope I never learn the answer to this question because I would never be able to stop crying.
I got an A.
No words are necessary, my friend. The look on your face said everything. Thank you
Liebgott as Jewish was one of examples of rewriting history for the show. Liebgott was of German descent raised as a Catholic. His father was a barber. And Liebgott also worked as a barber. He only worked as a cabbie for about six months before entering the army. This is why those who were interviewed for the book remembered him as a cabbie, instead of his actual profession. In the first episode you can see Liebgott cutting hair.
That's good to know, they portrayed him as Jewish which is obviously not true then
One of the reasons there are some inaccuracies through the series is the fact that by the time this had filmed, several of the men had passed, so the writers had to go on second hand narratives. Liebgott is a good example IMO. Apparently everyone thought he was Jewish, and he supposedly never corrected them
I studied history in college and I had to write a paper about “The Final Solution”. It broke my heart. Atrocious what people can do to each other.
Thank you! Most of the reactors I have seen watch this fail to make the connection from the first episode that Liebgott had said he was a Jew. To me, it makes the scenes where he is having to translate so much more powerful and heart wrenching.
Another great reaction Kev. Great insights. Your silence said as much as anything you could have said. I've seen this numerous times and it breaks me down to tears every time.
I've been dreading and looking forward to this one for the last several hours of my binge and am already crying in the intro.
In 1976 we moved to West Los Angeles to a very Jewish neighborhood..I was 12 and remember going to the donut store where these 2 elderly ladies worked. Both had concentration tattoos on their arms .when I asked about them she told me it's something a little boy should never have to know about..I never forgot that..only years later in junior high did I know what she meant..
I would have imagined that, just like you, the men who actually came upon one of these camps would have been shocked and stunned into silence......there are no words to describe or explain what it must have been like...apparently, in the making of this episode, the actors who portrayed the soldiers who found the camp, were not told by the director, what exactly they were going to be filming for this scene, so that it would actually come as a genuine shock to the actors..........you can see genuine horror on the faces throughout this episode.......
Heart breaking. The reality of the camps was even worse than what we can reasonably show on camera. So much so, i believe it was perhaps general eisenhower that insisted they were filmed and documented, as people just wouldn't truly believe or comprehend such evil, and we must never forget. 11 Million innocent lives brutally taken. That is an entire large countries population. I believe there were approximately 44,000 camps of various sizes and uses. Some concentration camps, POW camps, forced labour camps, and of course the death camps. A sickening, highly refined industrialised and sophisticated genocide machine. Absolute insanity on earth.
Rewatch this show and the Pacific every year and it still good like the first time
yea if people don't get emotional, showing it or not, at this episode then something is wrong with them. this episode hits me in the gut every time and i have probably watched this series 50 times
It was specifically written that way by John Orloff, though the liberation scenes are entirely fictional.
I have watched this show dozens of times. I cry this episode every time.
I've seen this episode 100s of times, and each time it hits as hard as the first. A reminder that we didn't have to witness something like this as those men did.
I only watch your channel because of how much I love how much you show your emotions! (Well also you're super funny and insightful)
This was filmed so well, I feel like this episode is mandatory viewing to help modern audiences understand what industrial murder did to human beings. So often it is easy to set it aside or talk about it like a nebulous thing but this takes you right to the heart of it.
While it doesn't give you an insider's viewpoint it puts the audience in the soldiers position which is I think very affective.
_I feel like this episode is mandatory viewing to help modern audiences understand what industrial murder did to human beings._
It might have some applications, but what is presented in Band of Brothers is a fictional version of the liberation of Kaufering IV. In reality, Easy Company did not liberate any camps.
In real life, the 101st Division did not liberate any camp. Kaufering IV was liberated by the 12th Division but 101st airborne Division did participate in cleaning up the camp and aiding the surviving prisoners.
Other than that, the liberation scene is supposedly the most realistic ever done. Most of the extras were Germans undergoing cancer treatment, who volunteered, perhaps as a final act of contrition for the crimes of their parents and grandparents.
I watched episode 7, 8, and 9 with my father, who was a survivor. Didn't have a chance to ask him about it, because he walked out. I regret that I never talked to him about this, but when I found him downstairs, he was halfway through a drink just staring at it with the same look he had, when I found him after nightmares. He would just stare at a half drunk bottle apologizing to the dead who he couldn't save.
My sister,.who visited some of the camps, in including the Death Camps at Auschwitz II Birkenau and Majdanek, where much of our family were killed said the camp looked right.
It's hard to watch. I make myself do so every year.
This episode is always horrible to watch. If you ever get the chance, visiting Auschwitz-Birkenau in Poland is extremely worth it. I assume any Holocaust museum is worth a visit, really, but this is the one I have personally been to. I went when I was 18 and traveling Europe by train with a friend. We had an amazing guide who walked with us through the camp.
I first watched this show when I was 12. Im now 26. And this episode gets to me more every time. The look on Obriens face. Webster being near speechless. Leibgott. Something different hits you every time. Obrien was a great foil in this episode, almost like a viewer dropped in the episode.
And he got Obrian's name right once they all experienced the camp together. No more hazing the new guy. He was not new any more.
Love your reactions man!! It's unbelievable humans could do this to one another.
Your reaction to this series has been phenomenal. I’m late on the train just catching up now, but your attention to detail is way beyond most reactors. Great job noticing things and learning who is who, it made your reactions way more enjoyable.
No matter how many times I see this one, it always kicks up the dust if you know what I mean.
If you haven't seen it, I recommend the youtube video The Fallen of World War 2. It puts the scope and scale of the war in very interesting and powerful way.
Great reaction as always. This is a tough episode and your reaction was so genuine as always.
Murder is a good word for the execution of the Germans by the French early on. The French were notoriously bloody in Southern Germany.
If you want a good movie about someone who saw the camps, look up the movie Prosecuting Evil. It’s about Ben Ferencz who was the youngest prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials and was the head prosecutor of the Einsatzgruppen Trial. It’s a fascinating documentary.
The 300,000 Germans that surrendered was known as the Ruhr Pocket; mostly old men and boys who had been forced to fight. There had been a back and forth battle between German resistance and the Waffen-SS. The resistance won, and the surrender of the Ruhr was able to call off numerous bombings on the cities. The surrender of the Ruhr was also when Hitler realized the war was lost.
I guess technically it would be called murder; when those French soldiers shot the three German soldiers. It's against the Geneva convention to execute soldiers who have surrendered. Back then, when Germans surrendered, they gladly did so when it came to British and American forces because they knew they could expect no mercy from the French and Russian forces.
For the lady's husband, I don't think he was involved in the camps. In the picture we see, he had bars on his collar; symbolizing that he was Wehrmacht (German Army). That I know of, they had nothing to do with the camps; which fell into the category of the Gestapo and the Waffen SS. If he had SS on his collar, that would have shown he was in the SS, and then I'd agree he was probably involved.
The camp that the 101st liberated was Kaufering IV; one of the sub camps of Dachau.
The camp that Winters was saying that was liberated by the Russians was Auschwitz. When they first came to Auschwitz, they had no idea what it was and thought it was just a large crematorium. They weren't as appalled as everyone else was about the camps because, truth be told, they were doing very similar things in their gulags.
You know your stuff about German fighting forces at this time. Not many do.
Отличный сериал,как и такой же "Тихий Океан".Смотрел с удовольствием)
Genuine heartfelt reaction. I cannot watch this episode without dissolving into floods of tears. Every person needs to see this episode, and it really brings home the phrase Lest We Forget. While war is hell and horrific, WWII was about as close to a just war as you can find, for this reason.
Imagine seeing all the horrors of War, and then not knowing what horror you're seeing. "Why We Fight" is a nod to the epic Frank Capra World War 2 series that was made in real time during the War. Which made it all the more potent not knowing the outcome. I sincerely believe Spielberg had the German Woman in the same stark red coat burying the Jews, as a direct connection to the little Jewish girl that is killed in Schindler's List. I don't think there are any coincidences in his work.
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That was a French Soldier Tom Hanks doing the executing 12:25 👀
That surgeon is absolutely correct! If you feed starving people rich food it will literally go right through them and they may even eat to the point that they rupture there stomachs and die! They would have started them off on probably a thin watered down gruel so that it would stay in their stomachs and they could easily digest it. They would have to receive multiple small meals for several days in order for their stomachs to be able to tolerate rich food. Also it would give time for the flora of their guts to regrow to aid in digestion. They would have to keep them locked up so that they didn’t wander off and die of exposure or dehydration or any other of a million causes while they set up a field hospital or arranged transportation to one. It’s like being very sick and trying to eat anything rich. It causes nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea.
This is definitely one of the harder shows in the mini series. I know I've seen you comment about watching the companion piece that has all of the veterans interviews and more.....and think I saw where you mentioned the short videos that Ron Livingston did prior to making the mini series....definitely worth a watch for all the behind scenes. One other thing to look up is the podcast on the HBO RUclips Channel where they interview some of the actors and writers of the series.....they tell some great stories of times they, the actors and writers, spent with some of the men of Easy Company.
Ok I need to see this podcast, it's HBO you say?
@@blondambition1223 Yes it's on the HBO RUclips channel
The impact of the concentration camp scenes in episode 9 is in how it was produced. From the decision to keep all of the actors (except for those with speaking roles), both Easy Company actors and later German actors, in the dark about the scene until they rolled up on the set; to the idea of using cancer patients as camp prisoners, and finally the hyper-accurate reenactments of the packed prison barracks and the train car filled with dead Holocaust victims - these are the things that make these particular scenes in this particular TV mini-series as some of the most impactful and memorable scenes in television history. The only show that this commenter can think of in recent memory that has as impactful scenes as these are parts of 'Chernobyl.'
I’ve watched this series several times and this episode always gets me.
Poignant & intentional bookend transitions by the director in the opening and closing scenes of this episode: the beauty and splendor of Beethoven contrasted with the horrors of the holocaust-both emanating from the same country.
It’s unbelievable that some deny this ever happened and some worship it.
Dang! Tried watching this at work but stopped before I became a blubbering mess. Gets me every time
During WW2 my Father was in the Durham Light Infantry and somehow he ended up with the first British unit to discover Belsen concentration camp he was never the same man after it, I’ve found some film of him here on RUclips guarding SS guards who were made to deal with the Bodies that were piled up, On rare occasions that he spoke of it he’d say “The Bairns piled up with everyone else little Bairns” He rarely went into great detail about what he saw as at the end of the war they were told by his CO “Don’t talk about what you’ve seen nobody is interested in what you have to say”, I only catch a glimpse of him in the short piece of film but it’s definitely him, He was undiagnosed with PTSD and was a violent man after the war as some soldiers were not all soldiers had visible scars after the war.
Wow that is such a important and also sad story my friend! the invisible scars were carried by people like your father. No help and invisible so people didn't care about it! crazy after everything they went through!
Obviously this means a lot to me as I am born and bread Durham so know about the Durham Light Infantry and the places they were formed from.
Where was your father born mate if you don't mind me asking?
@@SofaandChill He was Born in Bishop Auckland and served in Dunkirk, North Africa, D-Day right through to Germany, Apart from that he rarely spoke about it, Interestingly my Grandfather was also in the Durham Light Infantry during WW1 .
This episode and Breaking Point are just the hardest to watch and still get me no matter how many times I have watched this series!!
Oh Kev this episode just hit me all in the feels ❤️🙏 Amazing Heart Felt Reaction, You Rock man thanks for always being so kind 💯
The worst part of this, is knowing that despite how it's depicted here, the US already knew about these camps, in the 30s. They even turned away a bunch of Jewish refugees. These camps weren't a secret.
What are you doing against the MAGA hats right now?
I dont focus on them. I focus on people I can actually help
No words, breaks my heart every time I see it. To think we could do that to each other as a race.
Fun fact about this episode…Tom hanks is the actor who executes the three soldiers around 12 mins
Goddamn i'm enjoying these reactions. Gonna have to check out some of your film reactions next
It is historically correct the fact that these poor souls had to remain in the camps for days, being slowly nourished back to health by the medical corps and the red cross.
They had to. It was a way to keep them, as stated in this scene, centralised.
Still, so many died afterwards because they either ate too much at the beginning of their liberation or they were just beyond salvation and their bodies just gave up.
I can't even imagine the psychological impact it must have had on the personnel trying to save the death and concentration camps' survivors to witness all of this
One thing I feel the need to point out, not that it should matter in the bigger scope of things here, but it's a detail and if you don't know about it then you're missing a subtle little point. At 13:29, when Nix is scrounging through the house and comes upon the portrait of the German officer, if you notice, there's a black ribbon around the corner of the photo frame. The man was dead. Who knows where or how but good chance it was on the Eastern Front against the Russians. He appears to be wearing a German Army uniform, so at least he wasn't SS. When her eyes shoot fire at Nixon, keep in mind that they're the eyes of a woman whose husband is dead.
On the other hand, a lot of husbands were lying dead at the camp they liberated. How much did she know about that? We'll never know. Obviously, she didn't have access to the whole game plan. But at the same time I don't buy the line that "We knew NOTHING!" After all, Hitler had pretty much laid it all out for the whole world to see in his book. (Yeah, I realize virtually nobody ever read the whole thing.)
And now, having asked everyone to consider her husband's death with regard to her reaction to Nix, I'm going to say that whatever her relationship with her husband was like, she rightly should have been ashamed of the fact that, in whatever way the man may have seen himself contributing to whatever "greater good" he may have thought he was helping to achieve, he was a part of what had happened there.
The officer portrait- take a close look in the next episode- and tell me it's not the same Guy...
God forbid should we EVER forget !!!
A film to watch that's based on a true story, is the 1987 movie, ESCAPE FROM SOBIBOR.
It's about a relatively unknown death camp in Eastern Poland called Sobibor.
In October 1943, it was the site of the biggest prisoner of war escape of the entire war. When 600 men, women, and some teens escaped the camp.
The film stars Rutger Hauer from Blade Runner, and Alan Arkin from Edward Scissorhands, and several other familiar faces.
The movie is based on the book of the same name, and the book and the movie were written with the help of several of the escapees.
There's another film of the same name, staring Christopher Lambert, but it's all subtitled and they have taken some dramtic licence with it.
Joe Liebgott was actually Catholic.
This episode is fucking hard... but this episode shows the humanity after war
.. as much as it hurts, it shows how not being human will f*** u beyond ages
That woman that "gave him a look", Nixon had just thrown her dead husband's picture on the ground.
The French officer that shot the Germans outside the barn was played by Tom Hanks himself.
Makes you wonder how the soldiers felt having come all the way to Germany only for Hitler to kill himself and his armies surrender. They keep saying it, "What are we doing here?"
As far as these guys are concerned, they fought, bled and died in the toughest of conditions only for the Germans to give up. If they were going to surrender, if Hitler was going to kill himself anyway then they should've done it years ago.
It's a nice undertone of how pointless the war was. Everyone suffered. The soldiers lost their brothers, they struggled under dire conditions, they didn't get to use toilet paper, their families broke up, their dogs got taken from them, they couldn't get their whiskey, the German's homes got turned into rubble, millions of Jews and other minorities were executed en masses. And for what? What was the point?
Man's inhumanity to man, alive and strong even today, sadly.
It’s inconceivable that this actually happened on this earth and it hasn’t been 100 years ago yet. Relatively not that long ago that these atrocities occurred.
The camps basically taught modern medicine about referring syndrome. Deadly electrolyte imbalance caused by feeding the starving too much, too quick. We still practice the lessons learned to this day. Malnourished patients have their electrolytes monitored and adjusted to prevent us killing them by feeding them.
re-feeding
The rules of sending back, uh, souvenirs, has really changed from WWII. During the Iraq and Afghan Wars, sending anything remotely resembling stuff like silver would get one court-martialed pronto. We could not send back any trophies, etc. We had to prove we bought certain items, like Swiss watches (I bought a Breitling Navitimer that was issued to the Iraqi Air Force, a load of them had been liberated and were available via high end sellers in Baghdad) and such. They even counted the number of pirated DVDs one could bring back. Units had to go through a lot of paperwork to bring back captured weapons, though most requests were refused. My Squadron was able to bring back a WWII era K98k captured from insurgents. I was fortunate to bring back a Saddam bust, which I mailed as it would not have been allowed, and a couple Baathist flags.
Yes. You had to be damned sneaky to send anything back.
Incredible reaction
Thanks Steven my friend, really appreciate that!
Since you asked about how true the episode was to life, I remember hearing that a few of the survivors, for sure [Redacted], didn't remember liberating a camp at the time when they watched the series. There was a camp in the region they're in in the episode but it wasn't Easy that liberated it.
Exactly, they got there a few days afterwards
This episode just leaves me gutted everytime I watch it. The ironic thing is that this series premiered on HBO in the US the Sunday evening before 9/11. I've often thought that the acts of heroism displayed on that date, is the closest we ever came to emulating the men of Easy Company.