I still use my SVEA Optimus 123R. Weighs 6 ounces more than the Jetboil, but it's smaller and the most reliable stove ever. It uses white gas (unleaded in a pinch). Isobutane doesn't work well in cold. It's difficult to light in 30 degree temps and will not light at all at 20. The mountains can get dang cold on autumn mornings when I want coffee to warm me, not me warming my stove.
Good tip. I usually throw my canisters in my sleeping bag if it’s chilly - but totally understand your point. The reality is when we get down to sub 25f we are running wood stoves in wall tents. All most all of our backpack hunts are in Sept.
An important thing to consider is how cold affects heat out put from the stove based upon which fuel sorce you use. Iso butane / propane mix does not perform well compared to liquid fuel.
Awesome video. I also love my cast iron skillets. I keep one in the gooseneck of my horse trailer and will cook with it on one of those double burner propane stoves. Never thrown it in one of the panniers, but I think I will after this video. My panniers are always on the light side. The heaviest thing is if you have to pack in feed. That always complicates things.
@cliff is it worth thinking that jetboils n similar only heat water? vs the pocket can have a skillet? i was going to buy a pocket just to cook meat on pack out since its a 2 day hike out. or sm i over thinking? thoughts anyone?
I have a couple of different setups. For ultra light weight and less bulk I have a MSR Titanium cup and Snow Peak burner. Super lite weight and packs down small, but does not heat water as fast and is more difficult to use in the wind. My heavier setup is the MSR Windburner. It normally runs $150 but you can catch them on sale for $100 at certain times of the year. True to its name the Windburner is not affected much by the wind. In my opinion it is superior to the Jetboil, but is a little bit bulkier, 1.5oz heavier, and does NOT have an igniter. I really wish it had an igniter, but other than that, it is flawless. Only last thing: The Windburner has a regulator which means it can be used in colder temps. Some of the Jetboil models have regulators (like the MiniMo) and some don't. On one hand this seems really important, but on the other hand I know guys that use the standard Jetboil with no regulator at pretty cold temps with no issue. They are all great products.
You're in trouble if you can't wait 5 extra minutes to heat you buddies water... geeezuz.. that's like quibbling over 1/4oz difference in weight in burners... lol. Great video
Hey Tyler, It's been awhile since I did this video but I'm guessing I refer to a "bannock" bread - just look up bannock recipe online - its super easy. In the backcountry pack all the dry ingredients, already measured out, in a zip lock bag. You can add water to the bag, squish it around and then cook.
Pick up a good cozy for the coffee cup. It will keep food/coffee warmer longer.
You are the only guy on the internet that can turn a video like this in to almost 30 minutes
hahah! well I guess that is a good thing! thanks Mark
Excellent stuff bro
thanks man!
Ain't wrong about the cast iron skillet!
Ha 👍
Awesome video! I always take a 2oz bottle of Avocado Oil and a 6" cast iron skillet for cooking tenderloins.😅
good way to do it!
I broke my Jet Boil. Picked up a Pocket Rocket Deluxe. It has an igniter which in my mind is a real plus. The Jet Boil was great but it took up space.
I'll check it out. thanks
I absolutely love my MSR Windburner.
I love my cast iron when I’m camping!!! Yes sir!!!!🇺🇸💪💯👍
I still use my SVEA Optimus 123R. Weighs 6 ounces more than the Jetboil, but it's smaller and the most reliable stove ever. It uses white gas (unleaded in a pinch). Isobutane doesn't work well in cold. It's difficult to light in 30 degree temps and will not light at all at 20. The mountains can get dang cold on autumn mornings when I want coffee to warm me, not me warming my stove.
Good tip. I usually throw my canisters in my sleeping bag if it’s chilly - but totally understand your point. The reality is when we get down to sub 25f we are running wood stoves in wall tents. All most all of our backpack hunts are in Sept.
@@CliffGray I'd throw my canisters in my sleeping bag, but I have cold feet....makes up for being hot headed...lol! Cheers, Cliff.
Hippies disguised as hunters 😂😂😂😂😂f-ing classic
Haha!
An important thing to consider is how cold affects heat out put from the stove based upon which fuel sorce you use. Iso butane / propane mix does not perform well compared to liquid fuel.
Nice breakdown of each system!
Awesome video. I also love my cast iron skillets. I keep one in the gooseneck of my horse trailer and will cook with it on one of those double burner propane stoves. Never thrown it in one of the panniers, but I think I will after this video. My panniers are always on the light side. The heaviest thing is if you have to pack in feed. That always complicates things.
Cast iron sucks for backpack hunts.
Cast iron all the way. Thank you.
“Hippies disguised as hunters” - underrated line 😂
HA!
@cliff is it worth thinking that jetboils n similar only heat water? vs the pocket can have a skillet? i was going to buy a pocket just to cook meat on pack out since its a 2 day hike out. or sm i over thinking? thoughts anyone?
I find using a skillet on the small stoves to be a pain in the butt.
I have a couple of different setups. For ultra light weight and less bulk I have a MSR Titanium cup and Snow Peak burner. Super lite weight and packs down small, but does not heat water as fast and is more difficult to use in the wind. My heavier setup is the MSR Windburner. It normally runs $150 but you can catch them on sale for $100 at certain times of the year. True to its name the Windburner is not affected much by the wind. In my opinion it is superior to the Jetboil, but is a little bit bulkier, 1.5oz heavier, and does NOT have an igniter. I really wish it had an igniter, but other than that, it is flawless. Only last thing: The Windburner has a regulator which means it can be used in colder temps. Some of the Jetboil models have regulators (like the MiniMo) and some don't. On one hand this seems really important, but on the other hand I know guys that use the standard Jetboil with no regulator at pretty cold temps with no issue. They are all great products.
Great stuff Cliff I burn through a lot of Starbucks Instant packs too Love those things
You're in trouble if you can't wait 5 extra minutes to heat you buddies water... geeezuz.. that's like quibbling over 1/4oz difference in weight in burners... lol.
Great video
Ha!
Bread recipe?!?
Hey Tyler, It's been awhile since I did this video but I'm guessing I refer to a "bannock" bread - just look up bannock recipe online - its super easy. In the backcountry pack all the dry ingredients, already measured out, in a zip lock bag. You can add water to the bag, squish it around and then cook.
Awesome, found it. Thanks!
Hippies disguised at hunters … what’s that supposed to mean?