I just watched this. It is great. Great actors. I cant use the right words to give it justice. If you read this, please take the time to see this film.
locoism1025 As long as Netflix enforces a terrible release platform which causes most of their films to all but entirely bypass a theatrical exhibition, there’s plenty to hate on.
I really feel that if one of these critics hasn't seen the movie discussed, that person shouldn't be on screen. What can they contribute except looking lost and giving a stupid remark - 'I'll give it a zero' ?
YD Cee but the show was started by Ben. And Ben got so busy at TCM that he would see almost nothing and it became kind of a running joke- well, I didn’t see the movie so I’m going to sit here
Honestly Alonso and Christy are selling the film short. This isn't a Life of Pi where the film shows us something and then we get narration afterwards to force the message. This uses something akin to Nora Zeale Hurston where the voices of the people telling their own stories is essential to the narrative construction. Something important would be lost if all of the information was told visually and the WTF groups obsessive hatred of voice over narration caused them to miss that.
Favorite part of the movie was the fact that you find out later, The younger brother thanks his life to the Tuskegee Airmen who came to save their B-25 formation. The fact they noted the Tuskegee Airmen and the 761st Black Panthers was my. "Oh my god that's cool as fuck." moment. How the P-51 just slowly flies into frame and you realize.."A Red tail.." And he mentions the 'colored' pilot It was just..Boy. This movie beyond that was so good.
Racism. Huge part of the film. I know. But there was more floating in there that I think people aren't appreciating as much. What was the war like, how were home coming vets received, foreigners receptions of said vets, advancements (and lack there of) in agriculture, family life, women's daily/life challenges, family dynamics etc - all relating to the time period! Interesting at least. Yes the scenes where the Jackson family was mistreated and brutalized were hard to watch for me... 'Cause I'm lame. But the racism relates to the time period... Sad but true. Unabashed and unblinking portrayal of it. Not for everyone. But it was about more than just the black characters or just the white characters it was about everyone from that time ever. Great time piece.
Agree! Obviously the overlying issue is racism. But, there are many other social problems that are immersed in this story. Great for discussion. If people change their lens they would see it and feel the emotions of this film. Very well done.
You can never make a general statement that "voice over" is not good for film because it is a visual medium, this is one of the most understood concepts ever. Voice over when it is used in a lazy fashion especially to convey EMOTIONS is when it is bad. But this story almost REQUIRES voice over since you have about 5 different perspectives, and it grounds you through each new POV - But it NEVER ever uses it to TELL emotion - This movie was extremely emotional yet had voice over - like Goodfellas and Wolf of Walstreet and basically any film director that is highly influenced by FRENCH CINEMA - Amelie, etc - all these films use voice over heavily but as a stylistic choice jus like any other character part of the story.
Saw this at a sneak screening. On the way out in the elevator, a young black woman and I disagreed on the ending though both of our interpretations made sense. Another terrific cast top to bottom!
My god, let Christy finish the sentence. Just finished the movie and I thought it was really good. It was hard to watch some scenes but that was the point.
I love this movie , I wouldn’t watch it everyday or anything but it’s something people should see . && it’s great especially being in the military myself to understand the bond you build with people despite what they look like and what you thought prior to meeting them ..
black lesbian given the keys? 3 white people discussing a movie that dealt with realities they would never understand. The movie was masterful and extremely inviting for debate.
Absolutely loved it. As of now I think that Dee Rees should be nominated for Best Director, but I haven't seen all the major award movies this year yet, so that could change. Either way though I highly recommend this.
Film is a visual medium but I agree with Christy on the *excessive "narration."* When you have to switch perspectives, relying only on visual storytelling might leave the audience confused. I think they deliberately chose *narration* as a device, to convey the story of these amazing characters, which is evident by it's exemplary use towards the climax.
The (excessive) narration was probably necessary, but I do feel like it was the only thing holding the film back. It didn't ruin the experience for me at all, but I don't think a film can truly be a cinematic masterpiece with so much voiceover if you know what I mean. I'd give it a strong 8/10.
ZeppelinBigFan I'm not a fan of voice-over narration in films either, mostly because it's the easiest (or the laziest) and the least creative way out. However, there are some storytellers who have mastered it, especially Terrence Malick. He uses voice-over to tell the inner struggles of a character, rather than mere exposition. It works out, perhaps because his work (too arty for some) mostly explore existentialism, making his films a truly cinematic experience.
Amazing movie, highly recommend. Fiction based off of truth and history; its also a book. Side note: I do love how its 3 white people talking about it. Would've been nice to have had both sides of the equation there.
why didn't Garrett's character (if he didn't want to shoot his dad) just shoot everyone in the room other than his dad and maybe graze his dad's shoulder?
Maybe because he didn't want to die? Only in superhero films and stupid action flicks can an unarmed man, or even a man armed with only a six-shooter, defeat a double digit number of men with guns.
Nobody read the book and one of the panelists didn't see the movie LOL Too much talking over each other in this review and one of the panelists had their phone in their hand. I'd recommend a better group of panelists when reviewing movies
michaelthemovieman oh yeah i forgot that it wasn’t released there yet HAHA it’s gonna be released here tomorrow so it slipped past my mind lol thank u!
Why do you guys always have to point out everyone's gender and sexuality? People are defined by their character not their gender, race, sexuality, etc. Come on guys it's 2017.
Black women always saying that stereotype. "Black men dating Becky will have repercussions." This movie exploits that stereotype to the max. I hope brothers don't get in their feelings over this movie. It was directed by a black woman who doesn't like black guys dating white women. I spoiled it for that bs reason alone!
It´s 2017 and I agree that the story is old. but it is also important that we never forget how bad it use to be , and make it clear that we are never going back . Just look at the last 8 months. It is not so old as long as the Alt Right and the KKK exist . The reality is that people like you feel offended when you are reminded of all the things blacks had to put up with.
The fact is we still put up with this in a different more menacing form. Focusing on the past in Netflix form is a rouge. It’s a distraction and wasting time when we need to focus on voting, making sure our representatives and the places we invest our money and times truly want our lives to improve and the lives of our children to improve. If you truly want to know what we’ve been through read books. Dont watch an entertainment shock value show in a biased filtered and manipulated platform like Netflix whose job is not to educate but to entertain, to make us want to binge watch, and lay down for hours when we should be out in our communities putting in work.
I just watched this. It is great. Great actors. I cant use the right words to give it justice. If you read this, please take the time to see this film.
Miki Peeni you are right on one thing great actors but the film is depressing and there was no solution it's the same storyline slave tactics shit.
Yeah the movie is a sea of despair, just white guilt the movie. We already have roots can we leave it alone now?
THIS MOVIE IS WAY BETTER THAN THEY ARE MAKING IT OUT TO BE!!!! Holy shit it floored me
It's called guilt-curving. It's natural. They're only human
I know right!!!
fr amazing story. had me fucked up.
Stop hating on Netflix.... it's giving people better content compared to what's being released in theaters in the past years.
locoism1025 As long as Netflix enforces a terrible release platform which causes most of their films to all but entirely bypass a theatrical exhibition, there’s plenty to hate on.
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K. B. How are they forcing anything?
Utkarsh Bansal well you can’t go see it on theaters... so in a sense they prevent you from the best experience
I really feel that if one of these critics hasn't seen the movie discussed, that person shouldn't be on screen. What can they contribute except looking lost and giving a stupid remark - 'I'll give it a zero' ?
YD Cee but the show was started by Ben. And Ben got so busy at TCM that he would see almost nothing and it became kind of a running joke- well, I didn’t see the movie so I’m going to sit here
Stupid remark? Its a joke you are extremely boring
I believe it was shot in just 28 days which is what is truly incredible.
David Diaz 2 of those days were rain out days TOO! Hardest film I EVER worked on!!!!
Garin Sparks crazy! What did you do on the film?
David, can you PM me your email
Garin Sparks I don’t see the option for that in the RUclips app.
Garin Sparks were you in the camera department, or art department?
Honestly Alonso and Christy are selling the film short. This isn't a Life of Pi where the film shows us something and then we get narration afterwards to force the message. This uses something akin to Nora Zeale Hurston where the voices of the people telling their own stories is essential to the narrative construction. Something important would be lost if all of the information was told visually and the WTF groups obsessive hatred of voice over narration caused them to miss that.
Mynt Marsellus i was gonna type something like this...but you said it all...THANKYOU!!!
Favorite part of the movie was the fact that you find out later, The younger brother thanks his life to the Tuskegee Airmen who came to save their B-25 formation. The fact they noted the Tuskegee Airmen and the 761st Black Panthers was my. "Oh my god that's cool as fuck." moment.
How the P-51 just slowly flies into frame and you realize.."A Red tail.." And he mentions the 'colored' pilot It was just..Boy. This movie beyond that was so good.
i dnt think anybody wod ever even know wht the hell u r talkin about
Racism. Huge part of the film. I know. But there was more floating in there that I think people aren't appreciating as much. What was the war like, how were home coming vets received, foreigners receptions of said vets, advancements (and lack there of) in agriculture, family life, women's daily/life challenges, family dynamics etc - all relating to the time period! Interesting at least. Yes the scenes where the Jackson family was mistreated and brutalized were hard to watch for me... 'Cause I'm lame. But the racism relates to the time period... Sad but true. Unabashed and unblinking portrayal of it. Not for everyone. But it was about more than just the black characters or just the white characters it was about everyone from that time ever. Great time piece.
Sam Ginoble My thoughts exactly! I hope more people read your comment & change their narrow thinking.
But racism informed how they dealt with those individual bits. I think the movie fell short personally.
Agree! Obviously the overlying issue is racism. But, there are many other social problems that are immersed in this story. Great for discussion. If people change their lens they would see it and feel the emotions of this film. Very well done.
Why do u have someone that hasn't even seen the movie on the review panel. He's just a distraction that doesn't add anything to the discussion.
This movie was amazing. And should win some awards
No it shouldnt, it was trash
@@welderboy13 trash? really? really? If this is trash you haven't seen trash
Just got one watching this and let me tell you, absolutely INCREDIBLE. Do yourself a favor and watch it all the way through, without interruption.
You can never make a general statement that "voice over" is not good for film because it is a visual medium, this is one of the most understood concepts ever. Voice over when it is used in a lazy fashion especially to convey EMOTIONS is when it is bad. But this story almost REQUIRES voice over since you have about 5 different perspectives, and it grounds you through each new POV - But it NEVER ever uses it to TELL emotion - This movie was extremely emotional yet had voice over - like Goodfellas and Wolf of Walstreet and basically any film director that is highly influenced by FRENCH CINEMA - Amelie, etc - all these films use voice over heavily but as a stylistic choice jus like any other character part of the story.
Saw this at a sneak screening. On the way out in the elevator, a young black woman and I disagreed on the ending though both of our interpretations made sense. Another terrific cast top to bottom!
My god, let Christy finish the sentence.
Just finished the movie and I thought it was really good. It was hard to watch some scenes but that was the point.
Mary J Blige Oscar Nominee i like the sound of that
Maximillien Robespierre
Double Oscar nominee sounds cooler, huh? For Supporting Actress and Song.
Definitely a film I'll watch on my living room TV. Seems like something you'd wanna watch on the biggest screen you can.
Such a fantastic overall movie and the ending is amazing. True symbol of change
I love this movie , I wouldn’t watch it everyday or anything but it’s something people should see . && it’s great especially being in the military myself to understand the bond you build with people despite what they look like and what you thought prior to meeting them ..
Really good movie. Why is no-one watching it?
Started off slow, thought it was going to be a boring movie, and ended up being very good. Stick to it till the end.
And see I love the beginning! I watched the full movie and the beginning right after for everthing to really sink in. ☺
jonathan banks? i like him but his character on breaking bad and better call saul is too familiar for me to believe him as this character..
black lesbian given the keys? 3 white people discussing a movie that dealt with realities they would never understand. The movie was masterful and extremely inviting for debate.
Ray Jepson ok nigga
Absolutely loved it. As of now I think that Dee Rees should be nominated for Best Director, but I haven't seen all the major award movies this year yet, so that could change. Either way though I highly recommend this.
rocco88digeronimo That will definitely be hard because of the competition
4:16 haha, Christy: "You need water?"
Nice to know she's willing to share the gallon she always has.
Film is a visual medium but I agree with Christy on the *excessive "narration."* When you have to switch perspectives, relying only on visual storytelling might leave the audience confused. I think they deliberately chose *narration* as a device, to convey the story of these amazing characters, which is evident by it's exemplary use towards the climax.
The (excessive) narration was probably necessary, but I do feel like it was the only thing holding the film back. It didn't ruin the experience for me at all, but I don't think a film can truly be a cinematic masterpiece with so much voiceover if you know what I mean. I'd give it a strong 8/10.
ZeppelinBigFan I'm not a fan of voice-over narration in films either, mostly because it's the easiest (or the laziest) and the least creative way out.
However, there are some storytellers who have mastered it, especially Terrence Malick. He uses voice-over to tell the inner struggles of a character, rather than mere exposition. It works out, perhaps because his work (too arty for some) mostly explore existentialism, making his films a truly cinematic experience.
Just watched this movie it was very sad and messed up
never heard of this...and i'm eager to see it.
The drinking patter is gradually becoming more synonymous with Atchity’s presence
Amazing movie, highly recommend. Fiction based off of truth and history; its also a book.
Side note: I do love how its 3 white people talking about it. Would've been nice to have had both sides of the equation there.
Alonso needs his own vodka jar.
This movie looks amazing
it sounds interesting to me! it sounds like it has something war and peace-esque to it?
all southern literature have that war n peace structure to it as they were heavily influenced in 1915s by Tolstoy
It was a good movie! There was something missing from making it great.
why didn't Garrett's character (if he didn't want to shoot his dad) just shoot everyone in the room other than his dad and maybe graze his dad's shoulder?
only 6 rounds and not much room to avoid getting hit by someone
Maybe because he didn't want to die? Only in superhero films and stupid action flicks can an unarmed man, or even a man armed with only a six-shooter, defeat a double digit number of men with guns.
There were too many people, and one of them probably had another gun. Plus Ronsel's life was on the line
Great movie
Nobody read the book and one of the panelists didn't see the movie LOL Too much talking over each other in this review and one of the panelists had their phone in their hand. I'd recommend a better group of panelists when reviewing movies
What is an "official" review?
Was this movie out of theaters
Lol Alonso at the end!
So did he die at the end or ?
No
Yes he died.
Review CMBYN!
michaelthemovieman oh yeah i forgot that it wasn’t released there yet HAHA it’s gonna be released here tomorrow so it slipped past my mind lol thank u!
yung turks shirt...im out
you realise this is a branch of the Young Turks right,,?
I would have said the balls for sure.. He already has one child so what else?!?! At least he would be able to speak
SPOILER ALERT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same, Jamie must've been so out of it plus he didn't get much time to decide. That part was heartwrenching😭
He should've just told them it wasn't his child. What they did was fucked up but that seemed like the best thing to say in my opinion.
you clearly didnt understand the significance of him not denying his own child. Its a psychological thing, the cost of freedom.
Why do you guys always have to point out everyone's gender and sexuality? People are defined by their character not their gender, race, sexuality, etc. Come on guys it's 2017.
Nayr747 - You’re a moron.
Markus Sarén Why do people who aren't sexist or racist trigger you so much?
Nayr747
In the US it seems to be still a big problem so i guess its somewhat relevant.
Nayr747 - They don't. Morons do, though.
Markus Sarén So you trigger yourself?
Black women always saying that stereotype. "Black men dating Becky will have repercussions." This movie exploits that stereotype to the max. I hope brothers don't get in their feelings over this movie. It was directed by a black woman who doesn't like black guys dating white women. I spoiled it for that bs reason alone!
Fatsnatch Muffdiver what are you even talking about? Go watch the movie again and realize it was different time
A movie by a Lesbian about Black suffering and they're only giving it a 7.5? It must be a real stinker.
so what if she is a lesbian you lefty.
I would have given it a 9/10. It was really good! Dee Ress did a great job.
One of the best films of the year...if you don’t leave the film feeling something then you have no heart or soul
God damn your life must suck.
psiwire 7.5 is actually a very solid score for a movie. Not everything has to be a 9 or 10 to be great.
There still pissy because of their fight about Justice League.🙄
This story is old and uplifts no one. I’ll pass.
It´s 2017 and I agree that the story is old. but it is also important that we never forget how bad it use to be , and make it clear that we are never going back . Just look at the last 8 months. It is not so old as long as the Alt Right and the KKK exist . The reality is that people like you feel offended when you are reminded of all the things blacks had to put up with.
The fact is we still put up with this in a different more menacing form. Focusing on the past in Netflix form is a rouge. It’s a distraction and wasting time when we need to focus on voting, making sure our representatives and the places we invest our money and times truly want our lives to improve and the lives of our children to improve.
If you truly want to know what we’ve been through read books. Dont watch an entertainment shock value show in a biased filtered and manipulated platform like Netflix whose job is not to educate but to entertain, to make us want to binge watch, and lay down for hours when we should be out in our communities putting in work.
Soooooo you never watch movies ever?