Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #63: Ford Edge, Lexus NX | Consumer Reports
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The magic number for this episode is "two." We look at two new two-row SUVs, the Ford Edge and Lexus NX, both powered by 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinders. For additional reviews, tips, and recommendations check us out at www.ConsumerRep... and Subscribe to our RUclips Channel: bit.ly/1Nlb1Ez
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While the Lexus tries to be sporty (with some success), the 2015 Edge winds up being the better "Lexus," thanks to a redesign that transforms the car. Normally Toyota does hybrids well, but the hybrid NX300h isn't as fulfilling as the turbocharged NX200t. Viewer feedback ran deep from our annual Top Picks episode, asking about the lack of a sports car pick and our small car choice. Finally, we talk about the possibility of buying a Tesla Model S P85D.
Ford edge is made in Oakville Canada that's probably why its so good
The Mazda 6 seems like the perfect car: Reliability, driving experience, regular gas, functionality, materials. Can you please spend some time talking about it especially since it starts around $22,000 Thank you
I appreciate your comments on the new 2015 Edge. We owned an '08 and an '011 Limited. Mechanically, both were very solid vehicles; the '08 was very pleasant to drive but a bit noisy. The '011 drove better and quieter, but I unloaded it after 2.5 years because, despite 4 software updates, MyFordTouch just drove us crazy.
I would be very interested in a comparison between the 2015 Edge Limited 2.0 Ecoboost and the new 2015 Nissan Murano Platinum. Similar sized, similar priced.
Jim MacMurdo Wait until they put the Sync 3 application in it. This MyFordTouch is just awful.
2 consumer reports errors the nx competes with gla and X1 and the Chevy Equinox competes with Honda CR-V and RAV4 not highlander and pilot
Motor Trend just judged the Lexus NX best in class, ahead of the X3 and others
@consumerreports In your most recent magazine issue, you said the new Edge has collision warning with automatic braking. Ford does not say that it will have automatic braking? Was this a misprint? +consumerreports
If you guys weren't paying attention, Lexus has become the new exciting Japanese Luxury brand. Its like it switched places with Acura and even moved ahead of Infiniti. Acura now just makes boring cars like Lexus used to, and Infiniti doesn't quite have the wild attitude it used to have. Lexus is now trying to appeal to the grow'd up JDM crowd, rather than the blue-haired golfer crowd.
All of you do a great job. The one question I have. Why are the VW Golf vehicles chosen by all of you as personal favorites, when their reliability is always subject? AIl I seem to hear about, is how they fall apart after their warranties expire. Owners also complain about poor dealer service and expensive maintenance and repair costs.
Excellent question. I would love to know the answer. Would any of the CR panelists buy a Golf intending to keep it for 10 years?
I hope they answer. I've always wanted a German car, but ... you know.
Gabe Pettinicchio Yes, I do. My friends' horror stories with maintaining their BMWs put me off that brand. However, I do like Golf's form factor and its utility. Still, having owned a bunch of Toyotas in the past, I am spoiled when comes to reliability.
If the panelists decide to answer this question (would you buy and hold and Golf for 10 years), could you please also say which one:
1.8 T w / stick
1.8 T w / DSG
2.0 TDi w / stick
2.0 TDi w / DSG
and why that particular one?
It may be that they don't mind spending the $ to maintain and repair. It's interesting because they are choosing cars that CR does not recommend. Interesting!
Love this show! Thanks for your honest insight into these cars.
My aunt has an RX and she is an avid traveler, so I often drive her 2013 RX. Even though it's not an F Sport model, the ride is much too stiff for a Lexus. The RX is no longer soft as it used to be, even though I haven't driven the NX, I feel that they both should be pretty similar.
I love you guys, but wouldn’t it be more appropriate to compare the NX to the Q3/X1? I understand that in terms of size the NX is much closer to a Q5/X3, but when comparing price points, drive train options, and placement relative to their respective brand hierarchy: it seems to me that the NX is supposed to compete more with those vehicles and not their upper tier cousins. (And for sake of comparison: the RX is also larger than its German equivalents, and is slated to grow even more in size as Lexus makes room for the third row seat in the upcoming refresh.)
Good call on NX Gabe. Definitely feels a little less solid than the German competitors. I wanted to like it, but feels like a Rav4 when closing doors
As a previous (dissatisfied) 2011 Ford Edge owner, do you have any answers as to why Ford did not roll out Sync 3 on the 2015 Edge and 2016 Explorer? My dislike throughout my Edge ownership was SOLEY because of MyFord Touch, and I feel like Ford could not get rid of it fast enough. Sync 3 looks so promising, and yet the redesigned and updated 2015 and 2016 Fords continue to use MyFord Touch. Any thoughts? Also, Talking Cars is awesome. You guys are great to listen to and watch. Thanks!
On the next show could you preview the results of this season's snow tire testing? Thanks!
Thanks for another great episode, guys.
This was an excellent installment guys. Keep up the great reporting!
I don't care how great they think the Impala is, or the Regal, after what GM did by ignoring people being killed - and they knew about it - I will NEVER buy a car from that company.
can you make an episode about German SUV? which is better in snow? which in better for the pocket (fuel reg. or premium, mpg, buy parts/self-repair)?
I JUST found out Consumer Reports HAD a RUclips channel, and let me tell you, it is exactly how I imagined it would be. I'm not one of those "HP all day" bros who needs to see the Hellcat do powerslides, but this just a bunch of stodgy mid-management types praising kitchen appliances with wheels. The Legacy better than the Accord? You guys can't believe that. The Golf over the Mazda3, at 25k? It's like car advice from Bill Lumbergh, only at least he had a pretty sweet car. Keep up the good work, as the data you have is great, and I am sure some need the advice. However, I'll stick to reading CR if I need help picking out a washing/dryer.
Do the new Mercedes Metris or the Ford Transit Connect have a shot at unseating the Odyssey or Sienna? Not happy about it but probably have to get a minivan soon.
I'm thinking of buying a small SUV for the first time due to some very occasional light off road driving that I have to do for my job and for better winter driving and I'm wondering what SUV would be the cheapest for me between savings due to low purchase price, savings on repairs due to good reliability, and savings at the pump due to good fuel economy. From what I've been able to look up my choices seem to be the Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid, the regular Crosstrek, the Subaru Forester, and the Mazda CX-5. Am I missing one?
Favorite podcast. I love my subscription to CR; you are the best. Anyways, I have a question regarding the poor performance of cars in the new small overlap test. If I'm driving down, say, a two lane road without any type of shoulder and barriers on each side, and there's an oversized load driving directly down the middle of the lane, what would I do? Before this crash test, my reaction would be to get as far from the vehicle as possible, but now I'm not so sure. Since my car has a better moderate-overlap score, would the appropriate reaction in this worst-case scenario be to turn INTO the center of the oncoming vehicle? This assuming that the truck was absolutely not going to be able to stop. Thanks!
Is Golf Mk7 that good? Good enough to compare it to the GTI? Would you recommend me getting either of those over my G37s coupe? I understand that they're in different classes but fun is what I look for in a car the most. So, it would be great if GTI is more fun with better practicality and fuel economy.
Ford just keeps rolling some really nice cars!
You guys should do a complete review of the Buick regal gs
Not to be nitpicky here since I completely understand that you did not have reliability data on the new Golf... but the commenters said Golf not GTI. A 1.8T Golf SE with the VW equivalent to Subaru's Eyesight system (admittedly sans AWD and with leatherette instead of real leather) actually has a lower MSRP than a fully loaded Imprezza Limited (by about $500 according to the online configurators), and base as well as tiered prices seem to be similar across the board. While I am sure Gabe would say if you were going to buy a Golf you should get a GTI: you can't really fault VW for making the more expensive GTI such a nice vehicle to drive a daily basis and then reward Subaru for not doing the same with the new WRX. (And for the record: this is coming from someone that is both a Subaru and a VW fan.)
the problem w/ the General is they have the capability to build great cars, but they don't always do
True
*The 'General' is suffering from Diminished Capability*
The new Sorento is almost as good as the new Edge, but has a third row of seats. Would you go for the Kia if you marginally value the extra passanger capacity or is the Ford too good to pass from your test experience?
The Sorento with the turbo engine has 5 seats and comparable leg room and cargo space to the Edge. I'm actually on the fence between the two myself. The Sorento feels high-quality (the interior is much nicer than I was expecting) and has thoughtful features for a more affordable price. Nothing I didn't like about it. I think the Edge looks great and might be more fun to drive (especially the Sport!), but it costs more and has the MyFord Touch I hear complaints about.
Why don't you guys test more base models?
ira spinks Consumer reports states they buy the most sold version of the car they are testing.
My problem with Ford SUVs is they've seemed to cram them all into a fairly narrow price range. You could walk into a Ford Dealer with 40gs and walk out with anything from an Escape to an Expedition and that Edge, Flex, Explorer jumble. What's the point? It hearkens back to the old GM policy of making one vehicle with 4 different badges. Do three: A small SUV a midsize and a Family hauler.
When will the Edge test results be out? Full test results?
@Seth Ragonese Ford is adding those capabilities as part of their PCA package on future vehicles. As I assume that the new Edge will offer that as an option: I thin that is in part where their information is coming from. www.cars.com/articles/2014/10/ford-adds-auto-braking-pedestrian-detection-to-collision-warning-system/
Isn't the NX uses the same powertrain as the camry?
2015 VW Golf R whats your thoughts ?
Thanks
Joe
At times it is hard to tell if the comments subject is the Ford or the Lexus.
Great show. Glad you guys make it. Two things that bugged me though!
1. You haven't tested a new Civic Si! It still has the rating from when it was noisier and had a much worse interior, so don't talk poorly of a car that you technically haven't tested. Sure, it's mostly similar, but the worst parts of it are hugely improved.
2. Seriously? More RLX insults? I think Gabe just hates it. It scores reasonably, so why bring it up so much? The Chevy Impala doesn't have the sophistication, materials, features, and more that the RLX does. Stupid comparison that nobody will make.
Not to mention the "SI" is bullet proof. Let's face it, it's the most reliable sports coupe by a long shot. For me though, I hate the two tear dash and the lack of low end torque.
Gabe Pettinicchio I'm halfway with you: LOVE the two tier dash, hate the lack of low-end torque.
The double-decker dash from what I hear is something most get used to. On the other hand, lack of low-end torque is something most can't get used to.
So that means the Cayman GT4 is out of the question?
Hi there which is better to buy as far as suv the edge or the 2016 Kia sportage
+Juan Paulo Sportage.
Well, the Trax is only new to America. It's kind of an older vehicle and it turned out to be a pretty mediocre offering from the get go (as with all Chevrolets offered abroad but not in America). Under previous GM leadership the car wasn't even supposed to show up in the US but the explosion of the small CUV segment has kind of forced their hand. The next one might stand a better chance.
***** The Trax has been in Canada for a number of years, and just hasn't caught on at all.
Yeah like I said it's one of those "international" Chevys that are just mediocre to begin with so there's no way they were going to be competitive in the US market years after the initial release.
(I said America, should've said the US)
Pony, The Mokka is marketed as the Buick Encore in North America.
A short question: VW Golf R?
Question for you at Consumer Reports, Mazda has been talked a lot about - their koto design language, new Mazda Miata etc. But I feel that the Hyundai grou makes better vehicles. Forget the Miata because Hyundai does not have a comparison car. Let's take the new Sonata vs Mazda 6. Which of these is an all around better car? I have driven the new Sonata. This car bares no resemblance in engineering to the Hyundai Stellar of the day. Why buy a Mazda when you can have a similar car at Ford? What is the big hoot and a holler about Mazda. I just don't see it.
So, no Golf R review? :(
Ford edge is to short. Basically a car replacement if you want to sit up higher. Personal opinion.
Im really starting to think consumer reports is being paid by the american car companies. They are really stretching on american cars.
This has to be the first time anyone has ever said that. I remember incessant bitching for years that CR hates American cars. I guess they cannot win.
Anytime one of the big car producing regions surges, haters will claim, "Paid off!"
For the longest time, CR would choose nothing but Japanese cars and just completely hate on German/American cars. Now American cars are coming back.
You guys dont like the Chevrolet Transverse? It can hold 8 people gets reasonable gas mileage and drives just like a car.
Model x
That Ford Edge will NEVER last as long as a Lexus.Give that Ford Edge 5 yrs max let's see what owners have to say.
funny I see plenty of 2007 ford edges on the road still. Its 2015, that means those 2007 models are 8-9 years old right now.
Funny indeed,I don't see much where I live,.My friends wife had one & the transmission went in it,2008 model.Maybe they're out there but I for one don't look out to see if I see a Ford Edge of all vehicles.
I have a 2010 Ford Edge AWD and I agree that the Lexus is better long term. I have 85,000 miles and a weird fix has been rear wheel hub bearing at 50K. No doubt Lexus is more luxurious and worth long term. But I still love my Ford Edge.
Impala is a piece of shit tho
cars can't talk...
These squares suck motor trend is better nx wins.
Why so much talk about gasoline cars? The only car that matters is a Tesla. A revolution is happening in the automotive industry in front of your eyes and you guys are almost completely ignoring it. What a shame.
I take it this is the first time you have watched Consumer Reports. They've been talking about Tesla on and on and on and on... Car of the year, car of the century, best car in the universe... But I guess you just woke up and decided to comment. What a shame.
And btw, "The only car that matters is a Tesla"? Seriously? Where do you live?
99% of America, including myself will never be able to own a Tesla. In contrast to you, I think they spend to much time on electric cars. Folks don't want them.
I think they talk enough about the Tesla and they're aware of what it represents. This is Consumer Reports and they should focus on the mass market, not $70,000-$100,000 cars.
A "revolution" that 99% of the population can't afford, or can't get into for practical reasons (range...etc). I think CR has already said their piece on the Model S, hence rating it as the best car they've EVER TESTED.
CR is doing everything BUT ignoring it. I agree, great car, but like someone else said, unattainable for most of us.
And back with the whiny baby full of tempertantrums>:/
Lexus threw this shit off to America depending on Lexus's reputation of luxury and reliability. Unfortunately, this car is shit and is never luxurious.
Sorry, I have to unsubscribe, this is utter BS!