Fixing Smash Character’s Movesets

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  • Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
  • Today I attempt to fix the movesets of Smash characters that desperately need it. But.....there's a lot of characters. I might need to make this a series. Speaking of which, if your main didn't get fixed in this one suggest them and how you would fix them down below in the comments. Also while you're here, subscribe.....come on, it'll be fun I promise.
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Комментарии • 79

  • @gloriabellon6948
    @gloriabellon6948 Месяц назад +19

    why this video has not views at all? it's a amazing video. you deserve more subscribers man.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад +5

      Thanks so much, that means a lot! We’ll get there!

    • @budgethewudge
      @budgethewudge Месяц назад +3

      THATS WHAT IM SAYING THIS IS GREAT

    • @Azureblue25
      @Azureblue25 Месяц назад +3

      The more of us that click the like button & subscribe/watch his videos, it should help him out.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад +2

      @@Azureblue25 please do 😂

    • @Azureblue25
      @Azureblue25 Месяц назад +1

      @@Jare1315 Luckily I already did all of that yesterday. 😊

  • @micahwong1410
    @micahwong1410 Месяц назад +39

    I think that Mario shouldn’t have the Ice Flower and instead give that to Luigi, to show how Luigi is the more liked but less used character (like the Ice Flower)!

    • @Vanillasanjiro
      @Vanillasanjiro Месяц назад +4

      Plus Luigi in smash 4 had an ice flower for one of its moves!

    • @jaco8822
      @jaco8822 28 дней назад +2

      have luigi be able to get the ice flower via the same gimmick mario has, but have his default be thunderhand from the mario and luigi games.

    • @theuluko
      @theuluko 26 дней назад +1

      Luigi need a thunderbolt because of the mario&luigi games.

  • @Mahdi12
    @Mahdi12 Месяц назад +15

    Ganon and Sonic is definitely top priority when it comes to fixing movesets.

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono Месяц назад +26

    3:57 Giving Mario a random power up for his *neutral B?*
    For the love of Kirby, think about those implications

  • @LucarioMasterX
    @LucarioMasterX Месяц назад +19

    I think the reason of why older smash bros character have the same move sets is because Sakurai considers them as fighting game characters and doesn't want to change them too much.

    • @Magic_Ice
      @Magic_Ice Месяц назад +3

      I believe that but another reason is that designing a fighting game character is very difficult and adding or removing a move could completely change how a character plays. This amount of time and work would be at the expense of new characters and with a series so focused on the roster, cutting characters is met with disappointment at best and feverish backlash at worst. So making new characters always made more sense than redesigning old ones.

    • @LucarioMasterX
      @LucarioMasterX Месяц назад +3

      @@Magic_Ice you do make a good point. 🤔 but I think changing 2 or 4 moves should be fine

    • @LG555
      @LG555 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@LucarioMasterXbut then we shouldn't change tho more iconic moves like mario fireball. If something needs changing with Mario, it's down- and side-B.

    • @Bruh..........
      @Bruh.......... 29 дней назад +3

      ​@@Magic_Icemake sense but please rework fucking sonic moveset 💀

    • @juneru2
      @juneru2 28 дней назад +1

      Yeah but this ain't a traditional fighting game, it'sa cross-over party game and these characters have had the same moves for decades now. These characters are from franchises with HUNDREDS of games to pull moves from, characters like Mario, Pikachu, Kirby etc. weren't created _for_ Smash Bros. like Ryu is for Street Fighter.

  • @reecemeadows4754
    @reecemeadows4754 29 дней назад +6

    Bro hasn’t blinked once like is he good 😂

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  29 дней назад +1

      Legend has it, he still has his eyes open til this very day…

    • @juanpablo.a
      @juanpablo.a 8 дней назад

      fr lmaoo whats up with that

  • @dagoodboy6424
    @dagoodboy6424 Месяц назад +16

    I always thought mario should spike ppl by jumping on them.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад +5

      I like that a lot actually

  • @Toxipool
    @Toxipool Месяц назад +8

    High quality RUclipsr with less than 100 subscribers? The math isn't adding up here

  • @dagimmic774
    @dagimmic774 Месяц назад +4

    Honestly I feel like Simon needs to be fixed, I get he and richter are supposed to be echos but honestly I feel like Simon doesn’t feel like Simon it feels like Simon is wearing a richter skin.
    Some things I would change is:
    Down tilt- he could never do the slide make it like a crouching whip attack
    Up Special- have it be a whip grapple like byleth since that is something he can do in SC4 obviously I had some more ideas with this to make it more unique but I don’t wanna make this to long.
    Final smash- literally Simon cannot do grand cross in the main games, I personally think they should have made it his hype attack from judgment or something similar but seriously that’s just lazy.

  • @Mymy_64
    @Mymy_64 Месяц назад +2

    6:10 Honestly it make sense to have his abilities be based around the Poltergust(most likely the G-00 model). His Down B would be Burst where you can push people away like Mario's F.L.U.D.D.(But with less distance), Up B would probably be the same, Neutral's the vacuum that just brings opponents closer(you can't damage them though), and his Final Smash would stay the same.

  • @EpicPandaPat
    @EpicPandaPat Месяц назад +4

    This reminds me of my old content, humble beginnings with simple editing. I 100% definitely know that you'll get better and better and make way better content then you are know. Earned a sub.

  • @tygon9619
    @tygon9619 27 дней назад

    Amazing ideas here. Subscribed!

  • @juneru2
    @juneru2 28 дней назад +1

    About time I've seen a video about this! I'd be so happy if the next Smash re-worked all the characters moves, even if it means a much smaller roster than Ultimate has. Veteran characters deserve updated moves to better reflect the vast amount of games they're in, and many characters have virtually had the same movesets for DECADES now. Maybe they could even give every character more moves (like aerial Smash attacks) so characters have even MORE variety!

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic 12 дней назад

    In general, the earlier a character was added to Smash, the less series material there was to pull from to inspire a moveset (95% of Pit's mechanical complexity has been experienced in games Sakurai directed, not his original 8-bit duology; Star Fox characters had never been active out of their vehicles during gameplay until after Melee was developed), the less confident and experienced the Smash team was with being able to depict unusual movesets (in Smash 64 three characters have a B move that's just "strong melee hit" - Jigglypuff, Captain Falcon, and Donkey Kong - everyone else has a projectile. Only two characters have non-recovery moves on their Up+B - Jigglypuff and Yoshi, with Ness's being a strangely technical recovery and a projectile. Most characters' Down+B are area of effect "get off me" tools - bombs, whirlwinds, earthquakes, shields, lightning bolt), and so on. Captain Falcon's moveset was mostly a result of him being an easy character to rig to the existing generic muscle guy polygons from Dragon King, then Ganondorf's moveset in Melee was the result of HIS model being easy to slap onto Captain Falcon's rig. With more time to cook, we probably would have wound up with Captain Falcon actually USING that gun holstered on his hip like Fox does instead of the iconic Falcon Punch, and with Ganondorf's moveset being edited more from Captain Falcon's into something comprehensive and actually relating to his character.
    Most characters introduced in Brawl and later "feel" like themselves perfectly fine.

  • @XMan2001X
    @XMan2001X Месяц назад +2

    15:38 YES! You get it! A Link To The Past is where he got his trident, and I want to see more of THAT for him! Hyrule Warriors got that right, and it lets him now through enemy forces like grass! Giving him the trident in Smash would improve him greatly! I love you, sir.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад +1

      I love you too ❤

  • @lorenzo77dascenzo70
    @lorenzo77dascenzo70 22 дня назад +2

    15:13 for my opinion we can change down b in a flight of ganon

  • @DJBurns-jq8mn
    @DJBurns-jq8mn Месяц назад +3

    Wtf is it with everyone obsessing over replacing movesets with moves from the newer games?
    We don't need Mario to use his power-ups for his moves, Cappy is completely fine as a change, I welcome that but the rest of his moveset doesn't need to be changed, there's a reason why he barely got changes to begin with.
    And Luigi getting a full Luigi's Mansion moveset is stupid as he is literally a copy of Mario that was developed into his own character so changing what he is in Smash to that degree undermines who Luigi is, just give him the ability to blow or suck up enemies and items with the Polturgust for his grabs to repersent all the Luigi's Mansion games and your good.
    DK doesn't need anything changed execpt for him having the ability to roll certain items when he gets them like barrels to reference the og DK or even do the same to allies in team battles like we see in the Donkey Kong Country games.
    You get the idea, the characters that deserve a moveset change are Sonic (obviously, though I'd say just combine the 2 spindashes into 1 move and have him do a small boost like Banjo's wounde-ring but faster, weaker and no invincibility and the Sonic Eagle for forward air), Ganondorf (change his up b to his float from OoT and his neutral b a slow purple energy ball that acts like his attack also from OoT) and all the echo/clone characters execpt for Ken and 1 of the Links (otherwise just have them as a costume alt that gives them a twist to moves like Daisy pulling out a Shyguy instead of Toad and sports balls instead of turnips).

    • @DJBurns-jq8mn
      @DJBurns-jq8mn Месяц назад +1

      Nothing against you as a person as it's your opinion but I just felt it needed to be said.

  • @kraut_did_work
    @kraut_did_work Месяц назад +4

    Some things are good to allright but i dont see a quick up/down tilt with mario changing his entire outfit, becouse it would be so fast it wouldnt really be visible or anoying.
    Neutral B of luigi would be to simialar to his grab dont see the difference.
    Bowser having King K. Rools up B would be kinda allright, if implimented right.
    Toatally with you on the toad idea.
    I wasnt buyed on the yoshi part until helicopter yoshi, it might be good or i just like the idea.
    You also want dk to fail by taking away side B it seems.
    Didnt thought i would make such a long text, i am german incase many words are written wrong.

    • @BossMan_.
      @BossMan_. Месяц назад

      I see where you are coming from for a lot of these. Although I think the thought behind Luigi Neutral B was to work similar to Wario Neutral B. He would deal damage over time like Wario does, just without the healing. Or maybe I misunderstood what he meant. But overall I think you make some valid points.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад

      Yeah I didn’t think about the costume changes 😂. Valid points though

    • @kraut_did_work
      @kraut_did_work Месяц назад

      @@BossMan_. when you grab some body you can deal damage like wario neutral B but with out healing so it would be very simular

  • @deoxysoverlord8710
    @deoxysoverlord8710 Месяц назад +1

    I love this video! You're starting small, and I wanna support you! You've earned a subscription.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the support!

  • @mrtrashulis1097
    @mrtrashulis1097 Месяц назад +3

    Dude finally we need more Jaren (as in the name) representation in todays society!

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp Месяц назад +3

    Kirby is my favorite Super Smash Brothers character!

  • @Azureblue25
    @Azureblue25 Месяц назад +3

    I would like to see your ideas on how to fix Kirby, Rosalina & Luma & Sora’s movesets.

  • @VersentionXD
    @VersentionXD Месяц назад +1

    im always getting recommended small youtubers but there videos are so good, like this one, im gonna sub

  • @J-vd9pe
    @J-vd9pe 27 дней назад +1

    For some like Mario, if they change the moveset for some one like Mario, the fans would have Nintendo's head. For fighters like Dark Samus, yes it would be good if they change their move sets.

  • @jonadams2741
    @jonadams2741 21 день назад +1

    10 outta 10 great video I think the only way for this to happen if a new team takes over Super Smash Bros as lets be honest if Sora Limited can't get their CPU's to work I think updating movesets might be an impossible task at this point Sora Limited aka Sakurai and his team has proven they can't even make proper Single Player modes like Adventure modes so sadly the only way for this to happen is if HAL or MercySteam to work on the next Super Smash then I can see this possible. Once again good video keep up the content

  • @MattJF21
    @MattJF21 Месяц назад +4

    Nah bro don't be ashamed for playing hero. You can play whoever you want. I main Pyra/Mythra and the ppl who know don't rlly care

    • @RoninCatholic
      @RoninCatholic 12 дней назад

      Hero is my favorite in Ultimate, Roy is my favorite in Melee, Link is my favorite in 64.

  • @themightykingjosiah8810
    @themightykingjosiah8810 Месяц назад +1

    You literally just gave Bowser a custom fire move he already had in sm4sh

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад +1

      Oh, I guess I did 😂. Kinda forgot custom moves existed for a second my bad

    • @themightykingjosiah8810
      @themightykingjosiah8810 Месяц назад +1

      @Jare1315 No you're good, I just thought it was funny

  • @DS_909
    @DS_909 Месяц назад +1

    Your not really considering game balance with some of these moves, because yea, at first, it wouldnt make sence for yoshi to have eggs bound to his up special until you take the time to realise that yoshi didnt need a recovory, and by giving yoshi whats essentially snake's up special, you could ruin the balance and counter play of yoshi.
    Also as a DK main, side special is a very important tool for DK simce it basically gives him a free stun, a spike, and a good way to break sheild, and replacing it with a mediocor at best projectile would make his gameplan worse. D.K. also is balanced with having a crappy revory since ot has so many ways to kill at an early percent.
    Mario should probably stay un-touched or atleast leave a gimmick out of his kit because mario is quite literally your introduction to smash bros, so having mario have a crazy and wild gimmick with random powerups would literally ruin the point of mario's entire existence while also removing an amazing ranged option for mario.
    Link was reworked in ultimatebso that his bomb worked more like tears of the kingdom while keeping younglink identical to the older link, but just having one link reference two games would be worthless and just homogonize reg link into a similar vein as doctor mario or toon link where they are refrencing only 1 game.
    Finally, with wario, having his neutral B and his side B be a move that advances the player forward would literally be the exact same thing that you complained about with sonic, but both moves would have a diferent coat of paint.

    • @BossMan_.
      @BossMan_. 27 дней назад

      Keep in mind we are all looking at this from a different perspective. I completely get what you are saying and when looking at the game competitively, you are probably right in what you say. However, not all fans of the game look at it competitively. Some are solely casual player and just wanna see newer games represented through the characters. And when looking at it from that perspective then yeah at least some stuff said in the video and great ideas. Logically, things like this won't actually be changed as they will likely look to more competitive aspects over casual.

  • @czms922
    @czms922 24 дня назад +1

    Any change to sonics move set would be positive atp

  • @Kirbo350
    @Kirbo350 28 дней назад +3

    You should fix Kirby

    • @jonadams2741
      @jonadams2741 21 день назад +2

      Kirby's forward tilt should be replaced by Chop Barrage and Up B replaced by either Rising Break or Hi Jump

  • @Wuffix
    @Wuffix 27 дней назад

    bowsers up-b is a refrence to the koopalings going in their shell & moving when you hit them i think itd be p stupid to make it a clown car when the koopalings always have one in smash
    warios side-b is a refrence to his iconic warioware bike(& hes considered a warioware character in smash) so i dont think itd make sense to change it
    donkey kongs final smash is a refrence to donkey kong jungle beat(the best dk game), donkey kong country returns & donkey kong tropical freeze, i think itd be weird to change it from an iconic multi-game refrence to a single appearance

  • @juliusjohansson-cl3gk
    @juliusjohansson-cl3gk Месяц назад +1

    A how will the powerups work on a competetive level. Will it depend on how many stocks mario has?

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад +1

      Probably on stocks, the more behind you are the better off you will get. I don’t really know what the best route to take with that move is tbh. As long as he uses his power ups in some way I’d be cool with that

    • @juliusjohansson-cl3gk
      @juliusjohansson-cl3gk Месяц назад +1

      Okej got it👍 and you have really god ideas for movesets😊

    • @BossMan_.
      @BossMan_. 27 дней назад +1

      I imagine it'd be similar to Lucarios aura mechanic. He gets naturally stronger when loosing, but for mario it's his power ups getting strong and not all of him.

  • @gloriabellon6948
    @gloriabellon6948 Месяц назад +2

    you look like uncle dane

  • @AadamArshad-ic5gk
    @AadamArshad-ic5gk 14 дней назад

    Peach should be the worst character in Smash 6. That's my wish

  • @UndertakerU2ber
    @UndertakerU2ber 28 дней назад

    Your video editing is really good and your ideas/analysis are on point, but your commentary is very "dry" in tone.
    I wouldn't say that you should be inauthentic and "wacky" like mainstream e-celebs commonly are, but I think you should try to tap into how excited you _feel_ about your ideas and let that shine when you talk to us on your mic.

  • @goofyjuice5710
    @goofyjuice5710 Месяц назад +3

    I think Luigi should also have references to the Mario and Luigi series. Like his electricity or dream powers.

    • @Jare1315
      @Jare1315  Месяц назад

      That would be sick!

  • @hunterbeaune7626
    @hunterbeaune7626 Месяц назад

    0:05 artist?

  • @megax-lf3bn
    @megax-lf3bn 16 дней назад

    Capatin falcon shurld n b a gun that hes
    R.o.b meta kinght litte mac ryu nad ken

  • @AdgjAdgj-ho5bf
    @AdgjAdgj-ho5bf Месяц назад +1

    I disagree

  • @byronvonedmund
    @byronvonedmund 29 дней назад

    2:05 you just had to ruin your own video with this statement