Simon Jordan DEBATES With Liverpool Fans If Jurgen Klopp Can Be Considered A Premier League Legend 👀
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- Liverpool fans speak to talkSPORT and explain why their manager Jurgen Klopp must be considered a Premier League legend.
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Nobody cares if other fans don't consider klopp a premier league legend Liverpool fans are happy to have had him as a manager
Bang on.
And rightfully so
Happy ? He brought us back to life he is a god in Liverpool his name is etched in our city for all eternity, well said though mate we don’t care about what other fans think, we know what we saw those years. ❤
@@PaoloLery same pal but it’s a draining job as you can imagine I’m just happy we had the time we did, Arne is gonna bring a brand new twist to it, plus Michael Edward’s is back which is massive for us
3 European cup finals in 8/9 years is some feat considering the state of the club was when he took over and he’s been beat by a team that nobody can compete with.
How many European finals did fergie and wenger get with their respective clubs in the time they had .
Klopp has made his mark not just in Liverpool but the whole of football . He is a genius and legend of a bloke . He has been marvellous for the game.
Too right 👍
His legend status is not purely about his record but his influence on a club and a city. A wonderful character and human being.
That’s why he’s a Liverpool legend.
Not a PL legend.
That influence makes him a local legend.
That's makes him a Liverpool legend and not a prem legend.
Legend for leaving perhaps when the going got tough. Obviously he a legend for recognising he was a sinking ship, hence why he announced at the perfect time when Liverpool were top and then their season completely disappeared after that. Yea some Legend to know best to leave now before it gets worse.
Most sensible comment. Funny how some of the comments refer to Klopp being mainly a local influencer!!! So in this case we should go and ask Ancelotti what was your influence over Germany since you beat Dortmund and can you please accept to call you a local influencer because no one cares about you out side the city of Madrid!!! If it wasn’t for foreign managers the PL would be an absolute joke a fact that only a turtle can deny.
Alan Shearer only won one Premier League and he's a legend is he not? Anyone banging on about "1 Premier League title" clearly isn't taking the context surrounding it into consideration; he's the ONLY manager who's finished above Pep's City for 7 years now, a club who've been doing it on cheat mode, he's the only manager to legitimately amass 95+ points a season on multiple occasions, he's reached 3 Champions League finals and won every trophy there is.... with the lowest net spend of the big 6. If you want to say that's not a legendary achievement point us all to the legend who did better with the 6th highest budget and a cheating club in the way please.
It's just clickbait. He's a legend, and these guys all know it.
I consider someone a legend who had an impact on the league, both from the sports and from the personality.
Of course, Klopp is a legend. he transformed a Liverpool side that were in the middle of nowhere on the table to a regular title contender and european top side again within a few years. And not by spending loads of money as ManCity did, he made the players inheritated from Rodgers better (Gomez, Firmino, Henderson), integrated academy talents in (Quansah, TAA) and bought players who weren't on the radar at all by the top teams (best example is probably Robertson). He may not have won loads of titles, but he was constantly in top 4 (except last season, even though it was tough).
Putting my Manchester United biased aside I would love to have had Klopp as our manager for the last decade or so but this is an absolutely ridiculous argument. Is anyone calling Conte or Manchini PL legend managers ? Hardly
Klopp been at he club for 8 years and won every trophy in his time while breaking many records along the way. Don’t care if people think he ain’t a legend as every Liverpool fan knows his worth in the football world.
Your comment proves you have football intelligence. Good for you.
The fact he had to compete with Pep (best manager of his generation) and an oil state backing the club. Tells a different story. Of course he is a legend, 99 points,He won the league with 7 games left its never been done.... And Utd fans should appreciate Klopp,he stopped Man City winning 7 in a row. 😂
@topcat5553 You mean the club with 115 charges could’ve cheated their way to more trophies? No one gives a f
@@akshaygopinath3858 So u agree that Klopp is a prem legend for going up against and winning a league vs City while Pep was there.
That caller says "Every single season out spent by City". He's adamant, Every single season.
😂😂😂😂
I mean if you win the PL as a manager I would say you’re a legend in that competition
Klopp a legend. Still won the title against an incredible city side. And champions league and both domestic trophies. Definite legend status for me.
Up there with rainieri.
With the Liverpool fan reasoning Ranieri is the best manager ever in the history of all sport
😂😂😂😂😂
Raineri won the league at Leicester with limited finances. Klopp was well supported finance wise so Raineri's PL title with Leicester was way more impressive.
Ranieri's achievements are much better.
Ranieri didn't beat a team with 115 FFP charges hanging over them to the league by 18 points.
He never once accumulated 90+ points.
Klopp has done it 3 times.
As a City fan, as much as Klopp and his side gave me many sleepless nights, I have nothjng but the utmost respect for him. And as for not being remembered as the runner up in several seasons as Simon suggests, I think he’s wrong. Why? The Pep/Klopp era (yes I’m calling it that contrary to what some pundits think given Pep won more) was defined a period of unbridled footballing excellence btwn both managers unlike anything before in both the PL and top flight English football.
This was a time where each manager was pushing each other and the limits of what a team can achieve each season. To look at what both Klopp and Pep achieved through the lens of results-only analysis is not only lazy and poor, but misses what made this era so special to begin with. Just look at some of the records each team broke from points to unbeaten streaks to winning streaks to gap over 2nd place to GD to GF and on the list goes. What we witnessed was truly special and would not have been possible had it just been Pep or had it just been Klopp.
Thank-you for your honesty mate.
@@delby66 👍
Football excellence that brought 2 European cups between them. Man United and Chelsea had 3 of them between each other before Klopp and Pep arrived and Chelsea won another after they arrived. So in actuality not much difference
@@guyverjay1289 The topic was on the Premier League and not Europe which was the scope of my comment.
City and LFC absolutely destroyed everything that preceded in English football. Prior to run he Pep/Klopp era, no team in English history (not simply the PL) had achieved 90 points or more and had NOT won the title. That happened to Klopp 2x.
During that period, Pep set the 1st and 3rd highest points ever accumulated by an English team and Klopp set the 2nd and 4th highest points achieved by a PL team. Those achievements were made in the first 3 years of their rivalry.
That IS footballing excellence by me hind the scope of anything we’ve ever seen in English football and it was consistent and not simply a 1-off. I could give you a whole host of records both managers broke in addition to the above that are all English football based.
To be clear, I am NOT talking about or including anything regarding Europe.
The real question is what makes a PL legend. He has won every trophy available to him. Yes not multiple times but he did come up against a manager in Pep and a team like City who are a juggernaut.
Oil money vs no oil money. Klopp has done fantastically well.
The clue is in the name "PREMIER LEAGUE LEGEND". What has the champions league or FA CUP or anything else got to do with the PREMIER LEAGUE?
@@guyverjay1289 who in the real world considers each competition in isolation? So he's a League Cup legend, right?
@@thebeast3279 - People with a brain when they are discussing the term "PREMIER LEAGUE" legend. Otherwise the term is meaningless. Rafa Benitez won the Champions league, the europa league, the fa cup and the super cup. Is he a premier league legend too?
@@guyverjay1289 but you're talking about the whole package. Domestic cups, European trophies won by PREMIER LEAGUE clubs. According to Simon Jordan's imaginary criteria, Wenger is a Premier League legend and Klopp isn't even though Wenger never won the Champions League. Mourinho has never won it with a Premier League team either btw.
He is our legend thats all that matters ynwa klopp ❤
In your mind yes. To Everyone else bang average.
@@alibabasheroThe fastest manager in history to win the PL and the CL as a PL manager is "bang average?"
@@benitezsucks8625 He was also the fastest to jump ship once he seen the team is slowly deteriorating. Yes bang average. Crying more won't change the facts that he only won 1 PL title in all those years.
I’m a gooner and even we love him 😂 hope he does one more season!
@@PaoloLery lol ya if only but love to see Arsenal win the league fingers crossed for yous 🤞
Premier league legend means premier league… one title is the same as Claudio Ranieri, conte, Carlo Ancelotti and they don’t see them as “premier league legends”
You do know he’s came up against a manager who’s won the rest? Is that the standard now?
@@1995davidg wenger came up against Ferguson? Jose came up against the both of them? What’s your point? Mine is that klopp doesn’t make the top10
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 pep is a different animal whose club broke 115 rules. That is my point no one else has done it. Wenger couldn’t do it with pep, ranieri and conte done it in a season where city were trophy-less. Klopp is a manager who got 97 and 92 points and couldn’t win the league…. Because of pep.
so ALan Shearer isnt a PL legend? Gerrard isnt? righto pickle..
@@jameshansing5396 talking about managers. The two “players” you’ve mentions have an over 350 prem goals and close to 1000 games over 15-18 year prem career. Not a manager who says he’s too tired after 8 years
Klop = 1 prem league
Conte = 1 prem league
Ranieri = 1 prem league
Pelligrini = 1 prem league
Mancini = 1 prem league
Numbers don´t lie
Ancelotti too
Are u gonna ignore the European Cup which none of the managers you mentioned above won and not to mention 3 90 plus points haul which even ferguson,Wenger, Mourinho couldnt achieve.3 European finals with an English team which none of the manager except ferguson could achieve....these are also unbelievable numbers.
@@karanbhau It's a premier league legend debate
How many won the Champions League?
They do lie because he arguably has 2 other title winning teams but came up against a City team that were practically unbeatable. 97 points and finish second is unheard of.
In any other era he wins many more so that should be factored in the conversation at least instead of reducing it to 1 league title as you did
Points totals mean nothing, could easily mean the league was better or poorer
That's exactly what I think, and if you look now at the current day best players they aren't as good as the ones from the nineties and noughties. I feel it dropped off lots around 2014, and since then it's just gotten worse with many legends retiring/aging.
Rome 84 when my club Dundee Utd were robbed by a corrupt ref in the semi, I would have loved to have seen Dundee utd v liverpool.
What makes legends is how memorable they are and for how long. Alan Shearer is a Premier League legend. So is Arsene Wenger. So is Mohamed Salah. So is Harry Kane. Trophies won is not the best metric.
10 points - for a champions league/european cup
8 points - for a prem/division1
5 points - for a europa/uefa/inter-cities fairs cup
4 points - for an fa cup
3 points - for a europa conference cup/cup winner's cup
2 points - for a league cup
who are the greatest teams of all time in this rating system?
You don't win every Trophy possible especially the Premier League with a Team that had never won it before and not be considered a Premier League Legend.
some of the comments on here are laughable - had to go up against Pep & 115 FFP violations. took Liverpool from being "Midtable United" & won 7 trophies in 9 years - some of you would be creaming your pants if your club had done that, smmfgdh
Midtable! Liverpool has never finished midtable in the Premier League!
The problem with Simon is he uses one standard for one club over another. For example, he states that Palmer is player of the year because of what he has done under the circumstances at Chelsea where many of the players have been poor. If you apply the same logic of 'circumstances' to Klopp and Liverpool, he has not got the financial power at Liverpool that Pep has at City. Thus, if you apply this standard then you would expect Klopp to only have maybe one or two titles. Remember, Pep set the standard for spending loads of money on defenders that was not the norm by buying Walker and Mendy for 50 mil each.
In addition, when Pep joined, they started spending 200 mil plus every year. With his second full transfer market he spent over 300 mil. This was un-parallel at this time which is why they have such incredible depth.
The other problem is that Liverpool fans always think their players and managers are exceptional. Klopp did well - FOR LIVERPOOL - but a PL legend? No.
@@MaterLacrymarumask foxes fans if manager ranieri is a legend i bet he is, klopp won alot compared other teams who thrown hundreds millions at it, also liverpool lost 3 finals and 96 points one season and came 2nd so context goes along way.
@@deluxeedition46 Ranieri did something truly incredible. Klopp was manager of serial winners - Liverpool. People talk about how much more money Pep had over Klopp, well look at how much Ranieri had compared to Klopp! Klopp is a Liverpool legend, but what overall effect has he had on the PL?
@@MaterLacrymarum klopp would have had 3 prem titles not for city superteam, record goals scored, record win streaks and point totals and only 1 title to show over them 3 seasons these are facts, that there would of took care of your question alone, but not going to argue its all history now them 115 city charges not change what happened it just something to index.
@@deluxeedition46 So, would-as, could-a, should-a. Let's add two more words: Didn't and couldn't.
I don't support City, but the charges don't really matter when it comes to Klopp. All glory goes to the winners, and Klopp didn't manage to delivery in terms of his total time in the PL. A Liverpool legend, yes, PL no.
FACT Check - City spent more than Liverpool in EVERY transfer window. False. In seasons, 2021/2022 and 2022/2023 Liverpool’s net spend was higher. In fact, City made a £7.17m profit on transfers for 2022/2023. All that said, I adore Klopp and I do believe he is a premier league legend.
He is a Liverpool legend. Not a PL legend… he has won one title. Same category as Daglish at Blackburn and Ranieri at Leicester. One season wonders, Liverpools deluded fans are the only ones who would bring up coming 2nd, no one remembers the runner up.
Of course he is. The only knock against him is he coached at the same time as the single most dominant force in premier league history.
Third highest winning percentage in league history for a manager that took over a team in 8th place. If he managed in the 2000s he'd have a dozen league titles.
Facts are he only won one title. Can cry more but they're the facts.
Where's your proof?
@@denisako6493 I assume you're asking the original commentator where is the proof as obviously they have none to suggest Klopp would have won more in the 2000s. Obviously they live in another fantasy dream world where one can just claim whatever they like without any real facts. As real facts show Klopp as a won 1 PL title. All else is fantasy and hypothetical BS.
@@alibabashero Facts are he won every major title a football manager can win and he won every major title before Pep did and thats a fact.
@@alexischristou3266No he didn't, many managers won PL titles and Champions league before Klopp came along. Stop talking complete and utter garbage. Again crying more won't change the facts that Klopp only won 1 PL title in all those years. Go ahead and cry more 😢
5:09 greatest achievement he’s ever seen Really, greater than Leicester winning the Premier League title
It’s silly to question if klopp is a premier league legend. He became at the time only the 2 manger ever to win the title and the champions league with the same team. People forget how bad Liverpool were before Klopp. The narrative about one league title in 9 years is nonsense it took 4 year to build the team to title contenders and when Liverpool final became title contenders the club had a 5 year run where they won 7 trophies and won a trophy every season they were in a title race. Something Arsenal haven’t been able to do. Is Klopp a premier goat as a manager maybe not but he certainly is a legend
115 is becoming a coping mechanism at this point 😂😂😂.
More context than coping mechanism
Drugs will be your coping mechanism when you're in league 2 😂
You can dismiss it all you want but everyone knows you lot have not a single thing without corruption
@@mrb9849 You are deluded.
Just stand back and honestly tell me a club can go from being the "Dog and Duck" to having revenue streams bigger than Madrid, Barca, United Et al in a decade without a shitload of skullduggery......
Simon changes his mind more than his knickers 🩲
Points total arguments speak for the strength of the league and the disparity between the top and bottom half.
Wenger, mourinho & fergie didn’t amass the points of Klopp and Pep because there was less of a gap between the sides. Save for your terrible Derby teams, bottom half teams could compete for the most part. The transfer and wage budgets were not as wide as they are now…
And the gap widens every year….
That isn’t to say Klopp isn’t a legend of the game…he is. But points tally’s is a useless argument.
Remember that player who isn’t that talented but everyone is like “Aaaww but he works so hard.” That’s Klopp
Simon has become very tedious in his approach to everything. It's like listening to my mrs in an argument 😂🤣
By the criteria being used by those calling Klopp a EPL legend, Ranieri should be considered a bigger epl legend then
This 1 will trigger the scourers. Fergie, Pep, Wenger and Jose, in that order are the only managerial legends of the prem!!! If klopp is a legend then Ranieri is even more so considering what he was working with
Pep above Fergie but the rest of you’re post you’re right.
Fergie was at Utd for 26 years so gets the longevity but Guardiola’s had all his records and then made some Fergie never did.
@@tomben6180💯
@@tomben6180Pep may well overtake Ferguson but for the moment Ferguson with 13 league titles to Peps 5 ( soon to be 6 ) is a far bigger achievement
@@tomben6180 Pep is the goat of managers but SAF is still number 1 in England
@@Cedisdead Pep is great, but is a money merchant. Couldn't rebuild a squad if limitations were set. Fergie, Wenger then Pep for me
A legend is someone who leaves behind an unforgettable impression on others. They touch lives, they're remembered, they're cherished. Legends take football to another level, producing moments of magic which people will never forget.not only winning trophies.
Klopp’s legacy is a Herculean effort doing things the right way against Everything that is wrong with Domestic football currently
What does the breaches have to do with the on field Team performances?
Most of them are ready to become options for Liverpool first team under Arne Slot Next season.Goal keepers= 1- Fabian Mrozek 2-Harvey Davies 3-Kornel Misciur 4-Marcelo Pitaluga 5-Kelleher.Defenders = 6-Calvin Ramsey 7-Sepp Van Den Berg 8-James Norris 9-Amara Nallo 10-Luke Chambers 11-Owen Beck 12-Lucas Pitt 13-Calum Scanlon 14-Conor Bradley 15-Jarell Quansah 16-Billy Koumetio 17-Lee Jonas 18-Carter Pennington.Midfielders= 19-Tyler Morton.20-Fabio Carvalho21-James Balagizi 22-James Mc Connell23- Bobby Clark 24-Trey Nyenri 25-Isac Mabaya 26-Ben Truman 27-Stefan Bajecetic 28-Tommy Pilling 29-Kieran Morrison 30- Melkamu Fraunendrof 31- Joe Bradshaw.Strikers =32- Lewis Koumas 33-Jayden Danns 34- Trent -Kone Doherty 35-Musialowski 36- Harvey Blair 37- Ben Doak.
He was the one who get Liverpool back on right track ..He have put his name for sure on the list of great Managers ..why???..he came..he saw and he leave as Lagend...Look at him ..What he did...
100% a club and PL legend. Guy took a bang average Liverpool side and made them title contenders. He won more silverware in 9 Seasons than any other PL club not including Man city. Let's not forget where we were at as a club before his arrival. He's won more silverware than something like the last 4 LFC managers.
Contenders are not legends
He spent money to make the team he wanted.
With that reasoning Ranieri is the best manager ever in the premier league
So, he did the job he was paid a lot of money to do.. Well done Klopp. Legend? Not a chance.
so becoming a PL contender makes you a legend? I guess Arteta is on the verge of being legendary then
so Mourinho and Wenger are Prem legends who never won the lot but Klopp isn't who did? make it make sense😂 Fergy,Pep and Klopp only managers to win everything in the Prem era,facts!
The clue is in the name "PREM LEGEND". Winning other competitions is irrelevant.
@@guyverjay1289the CL is irrelevent?😂
@@shafiqnasim1655 - as it pertains to being a PREMIER LEAGUE legend yes or is Roberto Di Matteo a premier league legend too 🤡
@@shafiqnasim1655 - as it pertains to being a PREMIER LEAGUE legend yes or is Roberto Di Matteo a premier league legend too 🤦♂️
@@guyverjay1289 did he win a Prem? exactly!😂
He's our legend that's all that matters
A legend is more than just thophies. If not then Gerrard, Shearer, Le Tissier aren't Premiere legends.
Didn’t watch this click bait video bc who gives s*** what they think of Klopp. We as Liverpool supporters know who & what Klopp means to us.
Exactly. I didn't watch it either. Jordan hates Klopp.
I see Simon's point, as a Liverpool fan he is a club legend for sure but maybe needed a couple more league titles to be a prem legend. However, it has to be said that Liverpool wouldn't have been anywhere near City without Klopp
With 1 title he cannot be put in the same category as Alex, Arsene, Jose, and Pep.
How many European finals did wenger get to,how did pep take city to.
The only thing that stopped klopp winning more was a cheating city who were allowed to carry on competing
@@paultaylor9498a domestic league campaign is much harder than to win that a European trophy you can get a easy draw things can go your way a league is 38 games home and away much harder can't compare
@nyallsmith320 and Liverpool were robbed by a club that has been cheating for years.
Klopp continued to compete and that's the point
97 and 99 points in a premier league season, more than any other team or manager except Man City. Says enough.
@@paultaylor9498 with your reasoning Ranieri is 10x better then Klopp
To summarise Liverpool fans: "A Premier League legend is a Winner", but if he managed Liverpool, you have to factor in average points-per-game and how many matches kicked off 12:30 on a Saturday.
I think the point is more you can win if you are good and you can also win if your opponents are poor. Winning with 78 points means your opponent also has to be below par.
1 title =legend 😂😂😂
He brought Liverpool the Premier League and European cup . To be honest thats all that matters to us Liverpool fans . If not for him people woukd be still saying 35 years with no League . That European cup meant we are as we were betore Fergie took over Man Utd . A differentiation of three cups. He brought the premiershop some of the best football you will ever see and turned so many players into world class. Yeah we shouldn't dwell on could haves but the guy reached three Europedn cup finals and in any other era he would have three league titles.
Alot of woulda,shoulda,couldas in there ffs 😂
I’d probably put him possibly in 4/5 place of best managers in premier league history
He's not in the top 4 managers in the premier ever, but certainly after that he's in the conversation. Really depends on your definition of legend after that. Certainly a Liverpool legend, after that it's up to the individuals definition
1 premier league trophy... It will go either way, personally based on that, he is not a PL LEGEND
He left the club immeasureably better off than when he arrived. On and OFF the field. Legend? Beating a Messi led Barcelona after being 0-3 down. Not only winning the EPL for LFC after a 30+ year wait but by 18 POINTS!!!! Cannot understand all the hate. The most intriguing and charismatic manager? What a back-handed compliment, Simon. But that comment just shows his lack of class or football intelligence. Thank goodness for Martin O'Neill and his thoughtful, unbiased insight. Shame that xenophobia and jealousy are still rife in the EPL.
To finish with 90+ pts x2 and not win the league ..
3 champions league finals
Has had to work with a budget that is 5-13 spending .
He is not a legend guys. Put emotions aside. One epl because Liverpool were starving of it does not make him an epl legend but a club legend rather. Why are we making an excuse for kloop and let stop the if city was not around, we would have won more.
He made it.. seen it all... Jürgen Nobert Best Klopp.... He said it ' it doesn't matter' what haters said because He gave it all it.. we love Klopp , we are liverpool and Simon go on walking alone. Klopp is up there , loved by all not only Liverpool fans .... Simon I respect you sir but you have your own personal issues and it's been awhile now, you are a prime specimen of a ' hater' but we are with you and love you sir
Liverpool were title challengers in only 3 , or maybe 4 of his 9 years in charge.
They lost 6-1 at Stoke 4 months before he took over.
He's the fastest manager in history to win the PL AND the CL as a PL manager.
And 1 year for the 9 previous
Try 5 or 6 you plank. He's won other trophies that most clubs, other than the spoilt brats from the blue half of Manchester, haven't won. Go pick on the rest of the league for a change.
Didn't Rodgers finish in 2nd place, has Klopp taken you backwards? @@benitezsucks8625
@@delby66 I am talking about the Premier League. The argument here is whether he is a Premier League legend or not. Everything else is irrelevant.
Im a United fan but have to say he is. For style of football and personality..also won enough trophies...I know only 1 EPL but champions leagues compensates.
Hows it even a debate
As many pl as pelligrini. Is he a legend?
Did Pellegrini win as many trophies as Klopp? Tell me ohhhhh!!!! wise one.
@@delby66 He won 3 in 3 years. His record is better if you took that over 9 looool
Anyone who wins a PL title against Pep , is a Legend , and he was one loss from being a invincible season.
Raineri
@@Jean-tz7ftPep wasn’t at City MUG!
@@PredHunter83but kloop was at Liverpool, he didn't win it before pep came, so what's the excuses for 🤡
Should of, Could of, Would of, facts are they didn't win the quadruple and still accounts to 1 premier league title during Klopps time.
And 2 from a quadruple.
Klopp is the greatest thing that ever happened to the EPL. He’s a man that all men should strive to be. His ability to bring people together and motivate is outstanding. He literally is a genius.
That's just embarrassing
Strive to be?
Big stupid teeth combined with the wig
Do you still wear your shell suit by any chance?
I personally can't stand Liverpool nor Klopp. Having said that I'd certainly have to consider him among the biggest premier league legendary managers from a strict managerial standpoint, but also with a caveat that it would have to include his record in European competitions as well as his record with previous clubs.
On a standalone PL basis he did very well, beyond expectations for sure.
On the more critical side you'd have to consider his league performances as being highly inconsistent. For all the good things he managed his teams only finished in the top 2 three times. Yes the 2 runner up occasions were with very high points totals and also the league title that they won. Outside of those seasons though their seasons were relatively unspectacular.
Klopp will be remembered for a huge time in Liverpool and among Liverpool fans. For one thing it seems from ab outsider perspective to be one where the club and fans were in it together. I think Klopp is a huge factor in that, so much so that i don't think any of the good stuff happens without him.
To everyone else I think he'll still be remembered and acknowledged as being a high quality football manager but just one of many behind the top level guys like Guardiola, Wenger and of course Ferguson.
Is Simon trying to suggest that Pep hasn’t benefited from the “financial irregularities” that city “may” have committed?
What % of all PL managers have won the PL?
History will prove that winning any premier league against a state owned club is the stuff of legend.
Klopp is a legend end of.
Legend for leaving and recognising he was on a fast sinking ship alright.
Legend in pool yes
Steven Gerrard, Matthew Le Tissier and Harry Kane all never won the premiership, but are all premier league legends
at last. Some common sense.
Even David Moyes is a PL legend, unless you don’t know what a legend means.
Win the Champions League and a league title, and you're a legend. Hes not on SAF or Peps level, tho, not even close.
Anyone who says he isn’t a legend doesn’t have football knowledge. Best win percentage of any Liverpool manager in history. The only team/manager who went toe to toe with City every single season. If it wasn’t for Pep Liverpool would have many more league titles. No one else came close to our points total!
Only 3 seasons. One that he won and 2 where he came second. Go check mate
Every other word out of every commentator and pundit mouths is “press”. Klopp brought that to the premier league.
Of course hes a legend......
He is the boss
We Liverpool fans don’t give an F whether you lot think he is or he is not a legend
No he isn’t. He’s won everything once, yes, but his Liverpool have never got over the line when it’s been close. I’m a Liverpool fan, but just because the bar was so low when he took over doesn’t mean that a single title in 9 years suddenly makes him a league legend.
Why can't they just accept that he's a Liverpool legend and not a premier league one? He's won one league ffs 😂
Jordan previously said Klopp was the best. Jordan has backtracked his stance from earlier in the season when Liverpool were going for a quadruple. He's been out Guardiola'd.
There hasn't been a season where Liverpool where on for The Quad, that would indicate that Liverpool had won Doubles and Trebles, you can't win The Quad without The Double or Treble, Liverpool can't even do A or The Double, you need to be able to walk before you can run
He’s a Liverpool legend, not a PL legend, in my opinion. If the next manager comes through and wins things he’ll be seen through reality goggles.
If Simon thinks Klopp is the best manager in the world then how did it become that?? Surely the rise of the greatest manager in the world can only be legendary.
Lfc have also been sanctioned.... No Simon, they haven't. That's the second time you've said that and had to backtrack before about it as you were wrong
Klopp is a legend of Liverpool!
Klopp is Liverpool.
He gave Liverpool in the most difficult league the PL plus CL!
Every manager who win the PL is a legend!
This is Pep City PL-to be Champion of England is the most difficult job.
Klopp is Mainz,Dortmund and Liverpool.
His style of football is extraordinary.
Who played like this?
Who?
Nobody and he was successful!
Benitez won the CL but PL?
Rodgers the failure?
Who?
Nobody!
Klopp is the better manager but if beating Guardiola to pl is an achievement then winning pl with Leicester is an even bigger achievement
115 charges didn’t stop Liverpool winning more points than City , 115 charges didn’t stop Liverpool from dropping points to not win a league 🤷♂️
Jesus Christ... Do you have notes written on your arms reminding you to breathe in and out? It saddens me that folk as stupid as you dont have their notes removed from their arms,
Compare with Pep probably not. Compare with his former Liverpool peers definitely yes.
Liverpool were nowhere when he joined and competed at the top table for most of his time
Liverpool are the only team to win the league with a 25 piont gap between themselves and second place team
Liverpool fans need to understand that they’ll be back out in the wilderness like Utd have been
Oh behave, child!
Ole, Mourinho and Arteta finished higher than him, not like he would have won everything without city lol
Kind of funny that the failed owner of Crystal Palace should think he has the last word on Klopp.
is he not allowed an opinion?
Only true honest non deluded football fans will know that he is a premier league legend
1 rebuilt Liverpool on a budget that isn’t comparable as these other so called “legends”
He has won every cup going.
If they didn’t get robbed in past seasons it would of been more than one prem trophy and champs league, so without a deluded look on things then yes he is a premiership legend don’t talk utter tripe.
Btw every club and I mean every club would jump at the chance to have klopp at their club maybe not city as they have pep but every club would take klopp tomorrow if he made himself available. All be drooling
Won against Pep’s Man City - enough said. Like Jordan’s Bulls in the 90s - the amount of legends without a chip because of that guy is in incredible
There’s no debate there
The answer is no, 1 league win just isn’t enough to be a PL legend
Guess Ranieri isn't one then by that definition?
@@vjaskawho said he is!? I don't think anyone would call Ranieri a PL legend
@@GIBBO4182 did I say anyone did? All I was doing is seeing what your understanding is
Don’t people realise Jordan uses click bait to wind up viewers 😡
Man's a legend whether we like it or not.
Nope
Another clueless caller. They had 97 points and still didn’t win. Just doesn’t mean they would have beaten United to the titles. United won cos they were the best. Liverpool had a chance to beat them and didn’t
2:04 this pep side isn’t under the charges 2009-14 is the financial findings
which this team was built from......
@@jameshansing5396 who in 2024 played between 09-14?
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 that’s not what’s being talked about ? 😂
@@jameshansing5396 fully is. You brought it up and the fan calling in did. Plus the 115 charges are not related to FFP or PSR . So…. 🤷♂️
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
why would they care so much if he wasnt
they dont
Simon Jordan has no right to judge Klopp's status in football. He's not qualified. Only fellow managers who have achieved great things have that right.
To win a League against the Might of Citeh and the 115 funds is an UNBELIEVABLE achievement! If it wasn’t for Klopp Citeh would be going for SIX titles in a row.