The Untold Truth by Peter C. Gøtzsche & John McDougall on Breast Cancer & Mammography's Dark Side!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- Discover the eye-opening truths about mammography screening from world-renowned experts. This video dives deep into the controversial topic of breast cancer awareness and mammography's effectiveness. With Breast Cancer Awareness Month in focus, we bring to light the critical insights shared by Peter Gøtzsche, a leading figure in medical research, on why mammography screening might not only be ineffective but potentially harmful to women.
Mammography screening has been a widely recommended practice for early detection of breast cancer. However, recent studies and expert analyses suggest a different narrative. Peter Gøtzsche, alongside our host, discusses the significant flaws in randomized trials of mammography screening, highlighting the biases and the lack of reliable evidence supporting its benefits. They explore the physiological reasons why mammography fails to detect cancer early enough to make a difference, emphasizing the systemic nature of breast cancer and the misleading statistics that have propagated its use worldwide.
The conversation sheds light on the alarming fact that mammography screening does not lead to earlier cancer detection or reduce breast cancer mortality rates. Instead, it raises concerns about the over-diagnosis and over-treatment of cancers that would not have impacted a woman's health within her lifetime. This critical examination calls for a reevaluation of mammography screening practices and advocates for more honest and gender-equitable healthcare recommendations.
00:00 - Introduction
02:30 - The Mammography Debate Unveiled
04:19 - Peter C. Gøtzsche's Mammography Screening Studies
08:47 - The Biological Reality of Breast Cancer
15:15 - Questioning the Status Quo: Are We Overdiagnosing?
18:26 - The Psychological Impact of False Positives
21:22 - Are We Wrongly Looking for Cancers?
31:13 - The Two Big Lies of Mammography Screening
36:17 - Preventing Breast Cancer: Beyond Screening
37:13 - Empowering Patients in the Screening Conversation
39:38 - Outro
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After the birth of my daughter in 1980 and no longer nursing, I felt a hard area in my breast and was told it was fibrocystic. I was 28, the doctor said if he were me he would have breast tissue removed because if I were to get cancer it might not be detected. I did not take his advise, haven’t had a mammogram since the 90s….wish we could trust what we’re told.
Thanks for sharing that. So true.
My daughter at 33 had a double mascetomy.. It was soo sad/radiation and has never been the same.. She didn't take the chemo and the doctors frightened her soo much.
They told her BRACA 1 so the healthy breast to me taken off as well.
😢.
Her whole treatment was a shambles with a repeat operation on her breast with infections.
Awful.. She has anemia but has never taken the hormone medicines or the injections to close her ovaries down.
A very gentle young woman she is and I always pray for my daughter as she is a single mum but a determined and positive person with a smile a mile long.. God bless all who have suffered.. AMEN. 🙏
I wish your daughter well..May she recover completely. 🙏
Sending lots of blessings ❤
I have never had a mammogram or a colonoscopy and I am 67 years old. I stopped pap tests at age 31.
2015 study title: Oxalate induces breast cancer. This study tells you what foods can cause breast cancer. What foods are highest oxalates? Here the study says not might, or could, or perhaps, or sometimes, or maybe, but "all." 100% all.
@StanDupp6371 first off, if this is the case with oxalate, then we shouldn't be eating leafy greens or beans, dates, and tofu too . Now, all these are very high in oxalates. So shall we give up eating azplant based diet? No. Why? There are countless types of oxolates compounds for a start and thus we cannot jump to conclusions with mouse study that injected a type of oxolate directly into the breast tissue without the body synthesising it. Actually, the body also synthesises its own oxolate production. Furthermore what happens in ,mouse is not the same when inside a human or indeed with the digestive enzymes involved from the human gut microbiome.
I haven't had time, but I wonder who funded the study.
I wouldn't jump to any major conclusions.
@@panes840 Before the mouse study the oxalate was first found in human breast tissue and it was funded by non profit University selling nothing. The study was only about breast cancer not other cancers.
@@StanDupp6371Wow. I must read this. Recently went carnivore and dumped a lot of oxalates. Felt horrible. Yes, those spinach smoothies, nuts and nut milks. Vegan diets. High in oxalates.
@@MOE-gm3si A human is not a carnivore.
The problem is that some doctors get offended when a patient does not want to follow the doctor’s instructions. Some doctors even suggest the patient to find a different doctor.
Yes. And then they can thanks to it "warn" aka instruct the next doctor so he she can treat you even worse.
Speaking from experience😅.
I have lost at least two doctors bc I was healthy and they didn’t want me as a patient any more! I’m on a new doctor. I’m concerned now about her attitude.
It is so sad that women never receive the truth from the medical profession.
This is exactly what they did to me 11yrs ago. I didn’t respond to an appointment the doc (I’ve only been once) did without my knowledge to a mammogram test. I was getting so angry after calling them out on this scam and the woman on the other end persisted, that I lost it and yelled: I’m not a car, I don’t need a mechanic and I don’t need maintenance, bc it’s my body and I’ll take care of it the way I want to take care of it. I’m not falling for your sales pitch. Don’t ever call me again.
😂. I never heard back.
Awesome ❤
Good for you
I love your righteous passion!!!
I can totally relate to your fervor regarding this topic, Thanks for sharing
I wanted a ultrasound not a mammogram
They refused me
They say it's just a little bit of radiation. I don't believe that.
6 years ago was diagnosed with 3 types of breast cancer.
I regret doing the surgery
II I met a woman that told me all kinds of stuff to look up.
I decided not to do their chemo or radiation. And I know that's why I'm still alive.
6 years later.
When the doctor spoke about a famous singer pushing screening for thyroid cancer it reminded me of the time a famous actress (I forget who but fairly young…about 40 I think she was) discovered her breast cancer by feeling a lump and then made a public service announcement pushing the importance of mammograms. It made no sense.
It might have been Olivia Newton John.
In Canada as soon as a person turns 50, you get motivations to get a mammogram, cervical cancer screening etc it’s insane - it’s been 8 years and I refuse to go…..
In 2017 had my breast removed
Big mistake
A stranger gave me a list of things to look up. Which is why I did not do chemo or radiation
Thank you so much for this podcast. It will probably save other women.
I believe you can't cut burn or poison cancer out of our body.
Walked away from
Western medicine
Steve Jobs thought the same.
Thanks a lot. Women, be strong. Empower yourself with WFPB and knowledge about modern medical scam, and say NO to medical scams. God bless!
What’s wfpb?
I wrote about this a long time ago and I' never go on mammografi! I am 47 years old.
I never understand why this barbaric treatment of crushing the breast, which will cause interal bleeding..bruising then radiating every couple of years, would be classed as preventative when it is more than likely cause abnormal cell growth.
Why on earth isnt ultrasound used when it can detect more and probably cheaper. Perhaps then the success rate would be higher and the need for killer-chemo would be reduced. 😢
It's all about the money.
no, it’s all because of our negligence and our naivety. It’s up to us to reclaim our bodies and educate ourselves
The older I get the more I think the money is an added bonus, I believe it’s all about maiming and killing women. I know the medical industrial industry is ultimately there to keep us sick and kill us off early, they make a ton of money off it in the process. I truly believe that those behind this industry are very dark, very powerful, very low vibrational ‘people’ who literally feed off our pain, suffering and death. Their utter contempt for us manifests in many ways that we are now waking up to thank god.
May God bless you and keep you.....appreciation and blessings from Sydney Australia .
I'm also in Sydney, he's great, isn't he. love Dr M.
Thanks a lot. The right attitude for women: "I am the customer. I demand to know if it works." God bless!
Rich people will say they are customers, poor treat doctors as gods.
Amazing that you can bring him in to cover this topic! Thanks Much!
I have a friend who gets a mammogram or two a year and was just diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer. She needs chemo and is mastectomy. She said I was so stupid for not getting mammograms. Meanwhile I’m thinking that it obviously hadn’t helped her all that much. How did her cancer get to this point (still needing chemo and a radical surgery) although she was getting regular mammograms?
Mammograms are radiation. Radiation on fat ( the breasts ) cause cancer.
Ii is called the mammography paradox.. the device that is going to prevent a disease, is the the device that causes it.
Ahhh...... my conclusion 10 years ago
My belief..you get what you look for..
Triple negative occurred in my mother between yearly annual mammograms. It was already over an inch in diameter. Triple negative is very aggressive and mortality is very high, even after throwing the kitchen sink at it as treatment. At present there is no really effective treatment for this type as it grows without the need for any hormones. I will leave you to research for the mortality rates, it is staggering. Your friend should not think she did anything wrong at all, screening is really of little help for the long term prognosis of this type. The treatment causes significant morbidity as well. Waiting for a better treatment, hope there is a break through in the coming years. I have lost two female relatives to this type with the best treatment available, and neither had metastasized at the time of diagnosis and least that could be detected. Tragic.
Thank you for sharing some very important TRUTHS.
Excellent interview. I feel personally cared for... i find it's balancing my rage
Something that Dr. G stated really got my attention. He said "Thirty years ago, if you got breast cancer, it was a death sentence. That isn't the case anymore today." The reason that fewer women die of breast cancer today is because we screen for it to try to catch it early when there is a better chance of removing it, keep it from spreading to other parts of the body. They both stated that breast cancer is typically very slow growing. That's not true. 70% of breast cancers are estrogen driven and are slower growing. However, the rest are extremely fast growing and very aggressive and have fewer treatment options (triple negative and inflammatory). These are the ones that you REALLY want to catch early. Today, most "typical" breast cancers are treated and never return (those that are detected early). The word "cure" is used. Thirty years ago the word "cure" was never used - that's because breast cancer was more likely a death sentence as Dr. G mentioned. And the reason that the word "cure" can be used is because it is caught earlier . . .because of mammogram screening.
I followed Dr. McDougall's recommendations for years - following his WFPB diet thinking it would protect me from breast cancer which it did not. I followed his suggestions NOT to screen with mammograms. When I finally did screen last year, I found I had a very large tumor mass and lymph node involvement - Stage III with a 75% chance to return. If I'd screened in a timely manner, I'd have got away with a lumpectomy. Instead I had MRI scan, PET scans to see if it had spread to other parts of my body, a lung biopsy since it looked like it went to my lungs at one point, full surgery, chemo, radiation, and 2 years of ongoing target oral therapy (continuing). Three and a half years of active cancer treatment. I wish like hell that I'd never followed Dr. McDougall's recommendation to dispense with mammograms. All of my doctors - surgeons, oncologist, PA's, nurses, etc - are not men as Dr. McDougall states in this discussion. They have all been women treating me and getting me through this. In this instance and on this topic of breast cancer, I think Dr. McDougall should stay in his lane of nutritional expertise. He is not a breast cancer expert. I still, however, follow a WFPB diet.
Thank you for sharing, that is frightening. I wish you a return to good health asap. I wonder what Dr McDougalls response would be to this.
What about fasting and no sugar did u try that
Did you have any other type of screening? A sonogram, xrays, tomography..etc..?
Thank you for sharing your experience and I wish you well on your recovery. My sister was diagnosed with a rare fast growing tumour on her breast at 39 and she wouldn't be here without screening and the help of a wonderful medical team.
@@mariabyrne1954 As a matter of fact, I have been a big advocate of fasting over many years and use sugar per Dr. Mcdougall - lightly, like salt. I've not ever been a sugar fiend. The mass in my breast was just exactly that - a mass! Large and it infiltrated the entire breast. I regret I did not stay up to date with my mammograms and catch this when it was small, easy to deal with, and would have saved my breast. Estrogen positive breast cancers are fed by estrogen which your body manufacturers not sugar. I also fasted in conjunction with my chemotherapy.
Thank you, Dr. McDougall, for pointing out the gender bias in medical treatment!
It's just as bad for men I can inform you.
I was just discussing mammograms with my daughter and this video posted on my feed 😅 I literally just opened a letter from our public health trying to convince me to have another mammogram.
Google was listening.
@@JennyWilson-ko6gt seems so...
Me too. Have had my third reminder.
Mammogram can’t detect cancer if you have dense breast. Got my mammogram 6 months prior I felt lump on my breast. Boom, it cancer invasive ductal carcinoma stage 1A. It’s already almost 3mm when I got ultrasound. Why not just insurance pay for ultrasound instead of mammogram which is more can detect early stage of breast cancer.
Ductal carcinoma is not cancer. It is calcification of the duct. It has just recently been callsed cancer. Another lie by the cancer industry. Watch Know the Cause with Doug Kauffman. Todays episode talks about DCIS. What is causing the calcification? Fungus. Get rid of the fungus.
In my country ultrasound is the most common and inexpensive method, US$6.00
The image should be more clear by this age of technology.. but it isnt
Because mammography cause cancer they make more money
Love this! Thanks for posting!
That was an amazing interview! Thank you!!
But I'm still not clear. If you dont screen and you have breast cancer then wont it just progress to last stage with no intervention?
Change your diet,fallow dr McDougall diet .
I think their outlook is that many are slow growing and so if they went undetected, and not spreading fast, you'd just live long with it and never know.
Many get bc younger however, and some have a fast growing type. They need a biopsy or surgical removal to learn what type. There's just so any factors. I discovered my own breast lump, I was still pushed into a mandatory mammogram. It's pretty much impossible to get care here in the US unless you agree to a mammogram first.
How enlightening your talk and very honest hearing from a doctor. I belong to those women who suspected all this but to hear it from you make me believe we are fooled by the medical industry. I cant stop listening to your talks. Thank you for posting it.
Thank you for your knowledge. I love people like you. Sober people of common sence. Thank you.
My less than 1mm tumor was found by mammography. Thank God I had it done. I am now cancer free and still have my breast. It absolutely can find cancer when it is small. It would still be growing in me had I not had my annual screening.
Thank you for your honesty!😊
I believe in our body's ability to heal, but I am 35 and found a lump in my breast. I'm getting it scanned at the end of the month. I'm hopeful it'll be benign, since breast cancer isn't common in my family history, I'm quite young, and the lump seems to have shrunk in size a bit as my hormones have shifted and I've started a fast. But I think it's better to at least check rather than ignore it.
An aunt who married into my family has had breast cancer a few times. She chooses to treat it with alternative methods, and it has either went away entirely or stopped progressing/become inert. But she does know it's there so she can monitor it.
I found lump at 39. No genetic connected. But I believe around 5% is genetic. Mine was cancer. I hope yours is not.
Your family member, what did she find luck with in reversing the tumor? I'm currently researching tactics to prevent reoccurance.
And studying cancer I have came to the conclusion that it’s either cancer or fungus They look the same what are your thoughts?
Take Ivermectin!
I had DCIS diagnosed when I presented with bleeding from the nipple and mammography detected a polyp in the duct. I had a segmentectomy and have had no recurrence in either breast. My only issue is reduced sensation in the nipple since surgery.
So..if I get this right; it means that the cancer is somewhat destined in each person. Like my theory about that it doesnt matter how big or small lump before detected. The result /survival rate is the same.
Like it's written in a book somewhere.
Very interesting the point of screening for prostate vs breast.
Cancer tells there is a disbalance: it tells: the body says listen to me... you know what it is, deep down... ❤❤❤
Thankyou for this interview
I really appreciate YT .....so much good content . Everything we need to know
My mom never had a mammogram and died from breast cancer at 66. She was young. She had a melanoma 10 years before on her shoulder. Also had lymph nodes removed at this time under her arm. Not sure what happened.
QUESTION: What is the smallest size tumour a mamogram can detect. Peter implies that the tumour may have already metastasize at that time. What is the smallest size, for a cancerous tumour to matastasize?
Tiny cancers can spread. Sometimes it is not detectable
where the first cancer was.
18:13, very interesting....I am watching this to better understand what's best for myself and this journey and you literally mentioned my name "Marj" as if this video is really meant for me. (I am dealing with TNBC)
So what kind of examen is better and doc md can except?
Anything but that squeezing machine...
Amazing interview !
Thank you, thank you thank you!
I have asked this question million time: So when we do mammography ? When we feel a lump that it is in 3rd or 4th stage?
Two lovely men. Thank you for all your work. It's a black cloud that follows you around. I hope I'm alive to see cancer finally cured. God willing.
What are your thoughts on QT imaging scans?
Great video ❤
I believe on the same thing! I twice on my life and never more around 1980s. Never more.
I had 2 mammograms...both times told I had to have biopsies NOW...I did and both times were not cancer. My mate was a head nurse on Oncology....he went berserk thinking I had cancer it really terrified him...both times. I decided no more ...breast cancer doesnt run in my family. I had very heavy bleeding pre menopause I went to my OB GYN with my husband in tow. The gynecologist said I have to remove your uterus. I asked why did I have cancer ...he said I have to tale out your uterus to be sure. Huh? I went to MAyo clin8c for and ultrasound and was told you have nothing in your uterus not even endometriosis. It is likely hormonal and it should stop in a year and it DID. Charlatan thinking about profits.So I also stopped pap smears.
My mate died last year at 80 and I am 76.
Beautiful Man
Que rabia me da esto!..😡
The authorities are all indicted and some removed. Read global indictments. So we the people need the docs and profs who care about humanity .
Can anyone link the 2015 article he mentioned at the end?
I did a search for _Journal of Royal Society of medicine screening_ and found the following on ncbi. It's also on Sagepub/Sage Journal:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4582264/
So what are you supposed to do? Just wait until you feel a lump and then go to the doctor? Is there other test you can do to catch it earlier?
The point is that women should never worry about breast cancer, which is as benign as prostate cancer, which most men in their 70s have and can live with it till the end of their life. Ignore and don't worry at all about breast cancer. And live a happy and long life by immediately eating whole food plant based diet and exercise a lot, and join a loving community, such as seventh day adventist group, and pass your life wisdom to the future generations. God bless!
It seems you missed his entire point. There really is no way to “catch it early” By the time it shows up on a mammogram it’s already in your system. You just know that you have it earlier than you would otherwise. There’s no affect on the death rate.
Live a preventative lifestyle, that's what this whole channel is about. We have much control.
elastography
Get an ultrasound check if you wish but, most health insurance requires you to pay for that. As usual, the best investigation will be charged to you and, the useless ones or that which is harmful to you will be available to you and paid for by your insurance. In Germany, women are sent a letter every year with an appointment scheduled for them to have a free mammogram. Each mammogram deposits radiation into the woman`s breasts, is of zero benefit to her health and is actually harmful. The medical profession continues to lie to women and handle them worse than cattle. HRT has now been proven to protect women from breast cancer. Read Dr Louise Newson, Dr Avrum Bluming, and Neuroscientist Dr Lisa Mosconi about Menopause and the Brain. Do read their books. If you unfortunately live in Germany you most likely will not be given access to any HRT but do seek a medical practice when you are overseas and you should be given a competent consultation and what you require.
Best one, heroe ❤
Breast cancer symptoms can be a rash instead of a lump. Look it up!
Inflammatory bc. It killed my girlfriend.
@@jybuys sorry to hear this.
Got that video ...glad i saved it .
But isnt screening for cervical cancer worth while?
My insurance company pays for mammograms at every age. 😢 it's not 40 years anymore.
Funny that dr McDougall thought it would be difficult for dr Goetzsche to explain to his wife what his research had discovered. - and as I’m typing this I hear she is a doctor. But even if she hadn’t been I’m sure she would have understood what we understand in half an hour.
I wonder if Peter C. Gøtzsche eats animal products or only plants?
There is always a book.....
I will tell the doc ....the Prof says no.
Thank you DR ADIGBA channel for being the reason why i am smiling today, Your herbal medication for Hsv2 is indeed an active one and it has no side effects at all keep saving lives sir
Yeah, let's just do nothing and hope a certain goaway! Bunch of crazies talking.