Regarding VictoryGreymon's strength, you have to realize that even a stick would be extremely powerful if it was made specifically to fulfill one purpose (i.e. sick of earth splitting). VictoryGreymon was programmed to fight one thing and one thing only. It makes sense that he would have a natural advantage against that thing and anything exactly like it.
My theory is due to the amount of energy he was near caused him to absorb it while trying to become war greymon and became blitz greymon to use the energy to his advantage and t I prevent him from overloading his data during the digivolution from the energy he absorbed
With the number of Variants with the Greymon, Garurumon and Omnimon lines. Do you think they'll do an Omnimon based on VictoryGreymon and ZeedGarurumon?. The double-edged wording of the Dramon killers could be a reference to WarGreymon having to get in close where a potentially powerful Dramon type Digimon could use a specifically strong attack that can harm WarGreymon.
I was thinking of the fact that the dramon destroyers are made to kill dragons, not just dramon species, and, well... Wargreymon IS a dragon, so the weapon is as lethal to it as it is to its opponents
@@Muriuki34 If I remember correctly, in the original series, Izzy only stated that it effective versus Dramon's not dragons when he read WarGreymon's bio and when WarGreymon took out Machinedramon, due to the fact he had to get in close to slice him like an onion we saw a cut appear on Koromon's head once the attack was over indicating that Machinedramon was able to get in an attack of his own.
@@riicky83 Dramon is short for Dragon Monster Species. Dramon are digimon that have dragon-factor data in their digicore. The higher % the more they look like a dragon. Blackwargreymon literally confirms that the Dramon Killers are anti-dragon weapons when he tells Monodramon that "these are weapons that work particulary well against Digimon like us." So the double-edged sword risk comes from the fact that since Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon Man-Types they are every bit as susceptible to them.
I'm honestly just surprised that Bandai hasn't made "VZ-Omegamon" yet. It seems like such an obvious project that they've been sitting on for too long.
Just a mild theory and this seems like a good place That being my belief that Dorbickmon is Shoutmon’s natural evolution. With its whole Classic Dragon King slightly Imperial Persona. For Shoutmon’s dream of becoming Digimon King it’s like a child that grew up to be exactly what he wanted to be without anyone challenging said aspirations.
This was an interesting video. I like seeing people discuss individual characters and the lore behind them in detail. Honestly I adore Victory Greymon’s lore and the way you described WarGreymon. It’s interesting seeing how different the two are despite their similar appearances. I’m definitely checking out the other stuff on your channel.
Your videos ALWAYS scratch that spot on my brain where many of my most fond memories are held. Thank you for everything you do my friend I've never met ❤️
When Nostalgia925 mentioned Emperor Greymon it reminded me of the fact that sometimes Digimon have their names changed when being translated and localized. For example, Emperor Greaymon is known as Kaiser Greymon in Japan (if you play the game Digimon Cyber Sleuth: Hacker's Memory, which I have been playing quite a bit of recently, he actually maintains the name Kaiser Greymon in the game instead of the Emperor Greymon name he had during the time Digimon Frontier's English Dub was airing), and by that same structure, Burning Greymon is known as Vritusmon in Japan. Now, this is what I managed to dig up with a little research, but the reason Burning Greymon/Vritusmon has a more "villainous" look is because it is based on the Vritra from Vedic and Hindu mythology, hence the name Vritusmon in Japan, its name in Japan is based on the creature it is supposed to be based on. I suppose Nostalgia will have to do another video on Digimon and culture/mythology video to cover the inspiration for Burning Greymon/Vritusmon. Now, what I managed to uncover in my research is that the Digimon developers actually intended to have Burning Greymon/Vritusmon to sort of play against type. By this, I mean that the Vritra is an entity we would identify as evil, even in the mythology it comes from. The Vritra is described as being a serpent-like demonic dragon so big that it can coil itself around mountains and is said to have a hunger so ravenous it is forever looking for a way to consume the heavens, the exact quote found, in several sources, used the expression "so hungry it seeks to swallow the sky," but Burning Greymon/Vritusmon goes the other way in that it is a clearly demonic dragon but is tempered with heroic tendencies that are more in line with the will of heaven. And I suppose that is a good place for Nostalgia925 to sort of start his looking into things on that front. Now, Nostalgia925 has mostly used the English names of Digimon while also adding in their Japanese name on occasion when he was able to find it, which is fine, for the most part, but I think that by not looking at the names Digimon have in Japan means you're missing out on some potential material for talking about. I suppose, discussing why some Digimon had their names changed when being localized while others didn't could be an interesting topic of conversation.
@@robiu013 From what I managed to gather, Burning Greymon is called Vritusmon in Japan. But you could be right, the sources I got the name from could have been working off a typo.
I'd imagine if ice agomon got a cannon evolution line his mega would be more of a samurai style digimon taking traits from victory graymon and the dexgreymon line. Winter graymon would be a cool name for that
Honestly id love to see a video on RagnaLoardmon a dna digivolution of 2 mega level legendary arms type digimon that are also rivals. Namely cause 2 megas that DNA digivolve into 1 is rather rare (especially when they aren't a version of greymon/garurumon)
There are quite a few actually with Rosemon & Lotusmon becoming Rafflesimon, Dracomon's 2 Stage 6 Forms (Breakdramon & Slayerdramon) Jogressing to become Examon & we can't forget Ordinemon from Tri, & Millenniummon also existing. I hadn't heard of Ragnaloardmon prior to your comment, I wonder how many other obscure Stage 6 Jogress Digimon exist?
I enjoyed the Video even so you are somewhat mistaken in your assessment, the Arbiters weren't created by Norun they were actually created using Digimemories otherwise known as the memories of the World, Realm or Universe by the true God of the Digital World aka Yggdrasil's creator (Yggdrasil is actually his version of a PC) as well as artificial data intervention by Yggdrasil itself also Yggdrasil wasn't created by Barbamon, the combined Digimemories did allow Barbamon to use the power of Yggdrasil to fuse them. The Dragon memory makes Victorygreymon the most powerful Dragon Digimon of all time, so powerful infact that they don't even register the existence of entities like the Seven Great Demon Lords.
The Arbitrators were a direct creation of Yggdrasil to destroy him should he get corrupted in Next. They are failsafe to the god that created everything that is in the Digital World.
Just found your channel and greatly enjoy the in depth info on various things about digimon which is easily one of my fav franchises. Look forward to further videos
YESSSS!! victorygreymon my favorite followed closely by wargreymon I prey he appears in this New anime if blitz made it him and zeed should be make it!!
The 2006 version of Agumon in his burst mode (Digimon savers) also defeated Yggdrasil, while Shinegreymon couldn't, maybe, that should've been taken into consideration while rating how strong Victorygreymon is, great video as always (^^)b
Agumon Burst Mode defeated Yggdrasil's7D6 avatar. Victorygreymon however defeated the True Yggdrasil(the deity) fused with a Demon Lord. Laying even a scratch on Yggdrasil would be impossible normaly. That's because God-like entities like Yggdrasil and Ogudomon X have something called the "Immortal Attribute". They are "Immortal Programs" and the concept that Digimon cannot do harm to entities such as this is an absolute law of nature. Yggdrasil created and manages all Digital Worlds(besides Illiad and the one from Tamers). As in an infinite number of infinite multi layered(layers=dimensions) multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time that are also higher and metaphysical realities in the anime fantasy setting that transcend the Human World(an infinite number of infinite multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time) at multiple levels of space-time and stand at a higher structural level than it.The DW is also managed through countless servers and even a server is multi-layered itself. This is just the DW. Then you have worlds that transcend it as well. - The Infinite Cauldron: The Infinite Cauldron is an infinite space where digital data is placed after being deleted. It's large enough to hold the Digital World's data. It has multiple layers: Dimension M, Dimension G, Dimension T, Dimension P, Dimension E, and Dimension Z. Infinite Mountain: 100 floors each a dimension higher then the last proven by how in Decode you get the 3 and 6 Dimensional Reality items and as you move up you get the 12 dimensional and on the 100 floor the 24 dimensional reality from Yggdrasil. The Super-Dimensional Space-Time The Super Dimensional space-time is a world that lies on the exterior of all worlds and all space-times (where everyone lives in). It can be used to travel to many (likely all) worlds and space-times. This place is a melting pot of noise data that would atomize anything that gets in. This is the realm of Homeostasis And above all of them,the Kernel,the core of the Digital World wich transcends all worlds before it. It's on the 100th floor of Infinity Mountain and is implied to be a 24 Dimensional space. It holds the data of all there is in the Digital World past,present,future. Whoever controls the Kernel controls everything in the Digital World. Souls,minds,space,time,reality etc. It overlaps all textures/ appearences of the Digital World. Then you have Barbamon one of the Seven Great Demon Lords,beings so immensly powerful that the Digital World's system (Yggdrasil) considered them to be too powerful to be let in their complete forms so he put a seal upon them as in they had their essence spilt across the entire multiverse(infinite number of infinite multiverses each with multi-dimensions,infinite timelines). And on their profiles on the Digimon Web Agumon Hakase says about them "Agumon Hakase adds... Even a single one of them has the power to destroy the world, but to have them all attack at once is truly terrifying." World as in all worlds. That's who Victorygreymon sliced in half. A fusion of two infinitely multiversal beings. Agumon Burst Mode only destroyed one of Yggdrasil's avatars.
Interesting video. I've seen VictoryGreymon a few times in fanfiction, but I had no idea what it was. I would definitely be interested in seeing you do a video on ZeedGarurumon at some point in the future.
Also, I think the digital world has 5-6 gods that we know of. There's yggdrasil, the 4 others from the wonderswan or ds games (i don't remember exactly, I just remember them being some sort of cristal balls) and homeostasis from tri. And maybe the things from Cyber Sleuth.
I always thought that the phrase "The Dramon Destroyers put WarGreymon's own life at risk" was in reference to the possibility that WarGreymon could swing the blades at another Dramon type, miss, & accidentally cut himself fatally. Just a thought I had since age 9 or so, but I could be wrong!
Love this video, I always wanted to know more about victory greymon sense he was on the front of digimon world championship (a very meh game overall but still fun to little me). I never saw him again after that though so I'm glad to see this video, nice job!
VictoryGreymon, we need a video separating the difference between the goal of Devimon & Myotosmon also I will be contacting you soon we need these as documentary set up release wise
Nostalgia You have to make a tier list of Digital beings that are in the Digimon world that are not digimon because it’s kind of amazing how many are not considered Digimon
I would love to see an amine version of digimon next because of how cool victorygreymon is. I now understand why it not possible or should not be possible for it to show up it the 2020 show.
@@zenvariety9383 I will say this it is possible due to the show having it's own rules but the likelihood of it happening is very and I repeat very low. Only time will tell
@@brianlampley7650 true. Yet if it were to happen it would definitely be in the second season of Digimon Adventure 2020. Yet if they do a second season then besides Victorygreymon and ZeedGarurumon we could see Lovelyangemon and other new mega digivolutions that haven't appeared in the anime or are completely new.
A little bit off topic, but recently I was thinking... If WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon become Omegamon/Omnimon, and BlitzGreymond and CresGarurumon become Omegamon Alter-S.... What would result in a fusion between WarGreymon and CresGarurumon or BlitzGreymon and MetalGarurumon? Some sort of Omegamon with two swords or two cannons I suppose. I'm kinda curious how that would look.
I got one even better for you...what happens when victorygreymon and zeedgarurumon fuse the insane power of that omnimon variation will bust the universe lol
That's an interesting thought design-wise, but my mind automatically conjures up the difficulties of trying to run 2020 programs on 1995 software or vice versa, or even expecting perfect Windows and Mac program compatability/integration... I can't see it working perfectly but it'd be pretty cool if there was some kind of desparity or glitch in the fusion because of incompatible/foreign data.
History nerd here with knowledge about medieval weapons: the reason the dramon killers put the user at risk is probably the same reason you didn't see claw weapons in widespread use in pre-firearms warfare. You have to get in really close to use such weapons and on the battlefield a spear was your primary weapon and a one handed sword was your secondary weapon, both being of much longer reach than Wolverine-claws. Many Digimon have long-range attacks and/or much longer weapons, and thusly it's possible that the only reason the user is at risk is a fairly mundane and practical reason.
It's not that . It's the fact that the Dramon Killers are anti-dragon weapons. They are deadly to all Dragon Digimon not just Digimon with "dramon" in their names. Dramon stands for Dragon Monster Species. Any Digimon(and there are a ton) that has dragon-factor data in its Digicore is a Dramon by default. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon Man-types. Wich means those claws are as deadly to them as to any dragon digimon wich makes these weapons double edged swords.
hoping you could talk about/make a video why digimons of the same LEVEL differ in power/battle strenght? starting from champion to mega level what are the pro and cons of that
Man your a handsome guy, might have a new crush lol. I hope VictoryGreymon makes an appearance in the 2020 reboot and maybe finally get it's Omnimon/Omegamon form
I have a theory about the dramon killers for what it could mean by puts the users life at risk. Basically my theory is because wargreymon has to get up close and personal with there opponents to use them effectively and thus puts it at risk of serious or even fatal injuries from there opponent cause well the armor doesn’t cover there whole body since an attacker can try and go for its legs since they have the least amount of armor covering them for example.
They are anti-dragon weapons. All Dragon Digimon are susceptible to them. Dramon stands for Dragon Monster Species. All Digimon that have Dragon-factor data in their Digicore are Dramon by default. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon Man-Types. Wich means they are every bit as susceptible to their own weapons.
@Nostalgia925 I love your work And I seen all of your videos but I been wondering most Digimon has black belts around there bodies like Victorygreymon Ogremon and etc. I wonder is this just a design of the illustrator or is there a deep meaning of them?
I think we need another VICTORYGREYMON video because his timeline and power are impressive, if it can put a stop to NEO the life form most powerful in the Digimon Universe, it's way stranger than any Omnimon in the digital world! and also I think we need to talk about NEO who can bend time and space, he can even destroy universes, and in the manga NEO he didn't even use all his strength, he had much much more power, I think he can beat the phoenix, in the manga he let himself died.
I have been thinking about the design on Gallantmon Crimson Mode. Due to the 10 wings witch makes me question if he's part of the angel family, along withbeing based on either Ragule The Angel of Justice or Uriel The Gate Keeper .
I Think He is The True Form Of Saint Michael The Archangel,Even If Seraphimon Is Also Based on Him!In Dawn/Dusk,You Can Jogress Gallantmon With Seraphimon To Get Him,Which Proves My Point!
The origins of Victorygreymon and Zeedgarurumon are actually from Battle Terminal 2 not Digimon NEXT. They are the reincarnations of the Royal Knight Dukemon and Metalgarurumon. Upon their defeat the Seven Great Demon Lords launch Tempest,a crack virus in the Digital World that corrupts the four Holy Beasts by turning their binary code to trinary and eroding their digicore. One of the fights in BT2 is Dukemon&Metalgarurumon vs Qinglongmon. In the 1st fight they act on their own and do not cooperate as they are from rival factions that were at war after the defeat of the Demon Lords and get easily defeated without landing a single hit. In the 2nd fight they cooperate and manage to bring Qinglongmon back to his senses but get so wounded in the process that they are nearly dead. Before going to sleep to recover Qinglongmon gives the dying Digimon a special program and they leave behind never seen before Digitama. Dukemon is reborn as Victorygreymon and Metalgarurumon is reborn as Zeedgarurumon.
I can definitely imagine a digimon universe where VictoryGreymon had to use the x-antibody in a situation,similar to what King Drasil did but because it got corrupted,not out of its own will. Or a digimon using this opportunity to steal some data from VictoryGreymon,to possibly make a virus counterpart of him.
I still think that VictoryGreymon being an evolution of WarGreymon is still plausible. But given that Metalgreymon was able to evolve to BlitzGreymon as an alternate in the Digimon 2020 show it won't be far off that they would the same for V-Greymon I would like to think the prefix name they have "War" (can fight or A Warrior) and "Victory" (able to win or being Victorious). I would like to give an analogy that being a just Warrior is weaker and a Digimon that gives Victory. Another theory I have is the new show would make Greymon evovle to RizeGreymon then become VictoryGreymon like Patamon being able to become Pegasusmon unable to evolve to Angemon. Kinda contrived but offers a lot of possibilities.
I assume the reason the Dramon Killers put the user in danger is because they're such short-reach weapons. They're specially designed to pierce the armor of dramon-species digimon, but in order to actually accomplish that you need to get right up against the enemy. A more swordlike weapon would be able to make a cut while giving the user more breathing room, but for some reason there may be something about the way dramon's natural defenses work where claw weapons have a better effectiveness.
They put the user in danger because they are anti-dragon weapons. All Digimon that are in any way,shape or form dragons are susceptible to them. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon included. This makes them a double edged sword.
I'm almost sure the dukemon data on victory theory came from digimon world re:digitize, one of the requirements for evolution for victory in game was "have a dukemon as a partner previously". People thought that meant something :v
It came from Battle Terminal 2 where the four Holy Beasts were corrupted by a crack virus named Tempest that the Seven Great Demon Lords unleashed upon their defeat. And one of the battles there was the Royal Knight Dukemon & Metalgarurumon vs Qinglongmon. They first fight without cooperating as they are from different rival factions and get defeated without laying a single scratch. Once they cooperate they manage to make Qinglongmon regain his sanity but are so gruesomely wounded that they are near death and loose their lives. Before going to sleep to recover,Qinglongmon give the dying Digimon a special program and upon their death they leave behind never seen before Digitama. Dukemon reincarnates as Victorygreymon,Metalgarurumon reincarnates as Zeedgarurumon.
Hey if greymon dark digievolve to skullgreymon and MetalGreymon dark digievolve to Machinedramon what will Agumon dark digievolve into if he even has one?
Agumon may slide-evolve into BlackAgumon before digivolving into BlackGreymon & eventually either BlitzGreymon, BlackWarGreymon or Machinedramon for Stage 6. MetalGreymon (Virus) & SkullGreymon are the Dark Stage 5 forms.
Fun Theory Id love to see is RizeGreymon 1. If It is gained a Alteros mode equivalent what would it be? 2. What made it so different from its metal greymon couterpart 3. And most importantly why it doesn't Evolve into blitzgreymon despite its strong similarities to it compared to shine greymon?
1.probably beam saber or more railgun on his hip 2.more or less a "refined" and streamlined version. 3.a couple of thing i supposed, -first is naming scheme Rise and Shine. -then there is a punk with a heart of gold aspect. Masaru(Marcus) is a delinquent you could argue that he already has a good heart since the beginning, but he grew up more and more into a fine lad which reflect in GeoAgumon evolution being more streamline, regal and heroic(Rize and Shine) when compared to metal greymon and wargreymon(metal looks really crude like he is the 1.0 version of his line while WarGreymon looks like a tribal warrior). Rize evolve into Blitz wouldn't fits with this bills. -the last thing is probably a nod to Masaru VA specifically JP VA. Souichirou Hoshi has one really popular role prior to Digimon Savers which is Gundam SEED protagonist, Kira Yamato, the pilot of Freedom Gundam. if you noticed both Rize and Shine greymon has a similar wing design motif to Freedom Gundam with the big individual fins and weapon attached to each side of the wings.
Rookie (Child) - Champion (Adult) - Ultimate (Perfect) - Mega (Ultimate) = Stages of Evolution. Super-Ultimate is beyond that but only in certain medias. VictoryGreymon is what I believe is the either "Super-Ultimate" stage of evolution, after 'Ultimate' or a "Mode Change" Evolution. It's just like how Dukemon has Crimson Mode. The wiki or most games' evolution traits seems to show that Wargreymon Digivolves into VictoryGreymon. So I do believe that there is some truth there. Though I think they need to clarify further. Since VictoryGreymon Digivolves from Wargreymon or Rizegreymon, wouldn't that make him "Super Ultimate" stage of evolution? Since VictoryGreymon is considered a "Side-Mega" or "Mode Change", how is that different from Dukemon Crimson Mode? (Dukemon does not seem to change name but VictoryGreymon does). Though this might tie into the Digisoul Factor but that's another topic... If VictoryGreymon is another version of Mega Digivolution, that'd make more sense, given that VictoryGreymon can Digivolve from RizeGreymon which is an 'Perfect' level. As for weapons... I think it's not far-fetched that Dramon Breaker is made from Dramon Killer's Data. They're not re-forged but Re-Programmed or Updated Data.
Great video has always. I didn't comment in the community page because he didn't had anything to say that wasn't allready said. Just saying, the anime just introduce Blitzgeymon for the first time in media. What do you think about this new digimon and his counterpart, Crestgarurumon? Also, it came to be because it used the energy of a pillar of energy containing the power of another digimon and adapted to his environnement. It reminds of your theory Coldgreymon right. ;)
I thought Victorygreymon was an x variant, but looking into his lore apparently he is way stronger than even omnimon x. This really surprised me. nostalgia u should really do a video comparing the strongest greymon spices Digimon ( victorygreymon, ancient greymon, crest of brave greymon from the movie and the x variants). Also, let me just say that ancient greymon was said to be the absolute Pinnacle of power for the greymon species during his time and every greymon today inherited their power from him.in fact, we have yet to see his modern version ( emperorgreymon is not ancientgreymon he is a fusion ancientgreymon wasn't), in fact ancient greymon isn't even his real name, we don't even know that. Last discuss the possibility of a victorygreymon a zekgarurumon fusion. Would it even be an omnimon? I just love the speculation videos u do like the case of ice agumon.
Didn't AncientGreymon make appearances in the series though? Cold War Greymon sounds so cool, & it's kind of sad a lot of the other Chosen Children Partner Families don't get new variations like Greymon & Garurumon do. At least Kabuterimon got referenced in the Thunder Spirits like how Greymon (Fire) & Garurumon (Light) were, & a few of the Destined Digimon get X Forms, while Angemon essentially become the basis for most angel digimon.
They endanger the user because they are anti-dragon weapons. They are deadly to all dragon Digimon. Dramon are digimon with Dragon factor data in their digicore. The higher the % the more dragon-like they look. Dramon stands for Dragon Monster Species. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon-Man Digimon so they are every bit as susceptible to them
Honestly I think Victorygreymon and zeedgarurumon look the way they do because of how well known/legendary Omnimon/omegamon is since it's the royal knight know to interact with the common digimon the most and its components (wargreymon and metalgarurumon) are pretty famous "common" megas so when it designed its contingency digimon it gave them an appearance that wouldn't look at out of line, no one would make a passing glance at a wargreymon or metalgarurumon variant except for the few that actually know there's something off with these variants. Though to have that kinda of knowledge you would probably have an idea about Yggdrasil itself. Yggdrasil doesn't know when,where or how it will go out of control so best to have a backup plan that is designed for one purpose but looks like a "common" digimon
Gankoomon and JESmon are actually the ones that interact with the common digimon the most out of all the royal knights, not Omnimon. In all honesty it probably was because either wargreymon and metalgarurumon were "natural" digivolutions and already belonged to the family or that the designs of wargreymon and metalgarurumon were used as the template for the arbiters. Though the truth really is just pure marketing and renown on our end. They have more forms and variations than Charizard.
@@andresmarrero8666 you're right I forget the roles of all the royal knights...alot but I think theres a simpler in lore answer as well you're right for the real world answer. Ancientgreymon and ancientgarurumon are legendary digimon with nearly all dinosaur and beast digimon drawing a lineage from those 2 digimon that famous and renown would probably even have the respect of the god computer itself since their feats and accomplishments parallels it's own royal knights so why not have the safety measure be digimon inspired by them.
I was going to agree with you about having more forms than Charizard then realized I have to count all 4 Shiny Forms in addition to the Smash Charizard Colors & Charizardtwo for a total of 16 forms. Also technically WarGreymon & MetalGarurumon interact more than Gankoomon & Jesmon just because of how late the latter 2 arrived in the series. Because of Omegamon/Omnimon being their Jogress 1 could argue that they have interacted more than Gankoomon & Jesmon have just from appearing more.
Not sure if this count, but VictoryGreymon survived a shot to destroy a whole universe from Neo, can that say anything about it's defense, and the Phoenix Force can only destroy planet (so far). Also, the Infinity Stones together may have the power to destroy the Universe, which is on par with Neo, also which can turn Dark Phoenix to dust with a snap. Just doing some comparisons.
A universe? Nope it destroyed both the Human and the Digital World. And they are not just two universes. Digital World - infinite number of infinite multi layered multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time. The Digital World in all showings besides Tamers in V-Tamers 01 is a higher and metaphysical reality that transcends the Human World at multiple levels of space-time,stands at a higher structural level then it,and it is so big that even if all rendering resources in the Human World would be used it would be impossible to render it. In Xros Wars(manga) when the Digital World was split in 108 zones the Human World was just 1/108 zones. -The Network between the Human and Digital Worlds. Multi-layered.Cyberspace EDEN wich itself multi-layerd and has multiple servers is just a small metaverse in the network and a single of its servers (the Abyss server)was stated by Grandracumon to have infinite information and would have granted to GranDracmon the energy to conquer both Human and Digital Worlds. The Digital World also has other worlds like the -Net Ocean -The Dark ocean wich is the embodiment of the dark hearts of humans -The Dark Area,an infinite void of absolute nothingness where conventional space and time do not exist set in a different layer,in a dimensional distortion. It is multi-layered with 6 layers. -The world that turns wishes to reality from 02. Then there are worlds that transcend the Digital World itself. -The Infinite Cauldron: The Infinite Cauldron is an infinite space where digital data is placed after being deleted. It's large enough to hold the Digital World's data. It has multiple layers: Dimension M, Dimension G, Dimension T, Dimension P, Dimension E, and Dimension Z. -Infinite Mountain: 100 floors each a dimension higher then the last proven by how in Decode you get the 3 and 6 Dimensional Reality items and as you move up you get the 12 dimensional and on the 100 floor the 24 dimensional reality from Yggdrasil. -The Super-Dimensional Space-Time The Super Dimensional space-time is a world that lies on the exterior of all worlds and all space-times (where everyone lives in). It can be used to travel to many (likely all) worlds and space-times. This place is a melting pot of noise data that would atomize anything that gets in. This is the realm of Homeostasis. -And above all of them,the Kernel,the core of the Digital World wich transcends all worlds before it. It's on the 100th floor of Infinity Mountain and is implied to be a 24 Dimensional space. It holds the data of all there is in the Digital World past,present,future. Whoever controls the Kernel controls everything in the Digital World. Souls,minds,space,time,reality etc. The Kernel makes you nigh-omnipotent in the Digital World. It overlaps all textures/ appearences of the Digital World. EDIT:layers= dimensions EDIT 2: The Digital World being a higher and metaphysical reality that transcends the human world at multiple levels of space-time and stands at a higher structural level then it comes from the fact that the Digimon Cosmology in the anime-fantasy setting(wich is used also in many manga and games,cyber sleuth,hackers memory and the upcoming survive use it) is set around higher planes of reality transcending lower planes of reality. In this setting the Digital World existed far before the real world as a chaotic primordial world called Idea. And Digimon existed as yokai,shikigami,spirits,demons that inhabit this world. Tehnology only allowed humans to tap into a small part of the Digital World and what were once yokai,shikigami,spirits,demons became "digital monsters" to fit the perception of reality of human beings.Magic for Digimon is high-level programming language. Here Digimon are also the metaphysical manifestation of each and every humans souls. The missing piece of the souls of the inhabitants of the lower worlds. Their alter egos. Human World- infinite number of infinite multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time. N.E.O's Zero Genesis destroyed all of these worlds and Zeedgarurumon&Victorygreymon received the attack at point-blank range unscathed.
Reminder: You need to talk about ZeedGarurumon in another video. :D
Phantom do you expect him to reply with “Ai Ai captain!”?
@@usukandidont ai ai kaptain
Ai ai captain
@@usukandidont Not really. It was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Lol
Regarding VictoryGreymon's strength, you have to realize that even a stick would be extremely powerful if it was made specifically to fulfill one purpose (i.e. sick of earth splitting). VictoryGreymon was programmed to fight one thing and one thing only. It makes sense that he would have a natural advantage against that thing and anything exactly like it.
When you do have a time I would like to hear you discuss Blitzgreymon and why a greymon evolved to being more ranged combat instead of melee.
This right here...yes sir
My theory is due to the amount of energy he was near caused him to absorb it while trying to become war greymon and became blitz greymon to use the energy to his advantage and t I prevent him from overloading his data during the digivolution from the energy he absorbed
Different Data was used when Blitzmon Digivolved.
So Victorygreymon is literally just JRPG Protagonist? Given power by god to kill god, with a ridiculously large sword?
Nice.
VictoryGreymon is like the Superman of Digimon
Victorygreymon and ZeedGarurumon fusing into a entirely unique omnimon variant
It would be cool if victorygreymon would appear in digimon adventure: 2020 of some sorts
Indeed or maybe in the serie after
If VictoryGreymon appears in the anime it could be in the second season of the Digimon Adventure 2020 reboot.
I would love that so much
With the number of Variants with the Greymon, Garurumon and Omnimon lines. Do you think they'll do an Omnimon based on VictoryGreymon and ZeedGarurumon?.
The double-edged wording of the Dramon killers could be a reference to WarGreymon having to get in close where a potentially powerful Dramon type Digimon could use a specifically strong attack that can harm WarGreymon.
I was thinking of the fact that the dramon destroyers are made to kill dragons, not just dramon species, and, well... Wargreymon IS a dragon, so the weapon is as lethal to it as it is to its opponents
@@Muriuki34 If I remember correctly, in the original series, Izzy only stated that it effective versus Dramon's not dragons when he read WarGreymon's bio and when WarGreymon took out Machinedramon, due to the fact he had to get in close to slice him like an onion we saw a cut appear on Koromon's head once the attack was over indicating that Machinedramon was able to get in an attack of his own.
@@riicky83 dramon is short for dragon monsters
@@riicky83 Dramon is short for Dragon Monster Species. Dramon are digimon that have dragon-factor data in their digicore. The higher % the more they look like a dragon. Blackwargreymon literally confirms that the Dramon Killers are anti-dragon weapons when he tells Monodramon that "these are weapons that work particulary well against Digimon like us."
So the double-edged sword risk comes from the fact that since Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon Man-Types they are every bit as susceptible to them.
I'm honestly just surprised that Bandai hasn't made "VZ-Omegamon" yet. It seems like such an obvious project that they've been sitting on for too long.
I would love to see Samudramon be in the spotlight as it is my favorite Greymon species/evolution.
Today's is valentines and nothing says love like a tall dragon man wearing a thong and armor with a giant sword.
Ok weirdo relax there.
Just a mild theory and this seems like a good place
That being my belief that Dorbickmon is Shoutmon’s natural evolution. With its whole Classic Dragon King slightly Imperial Persona. For Shoutmon’s dream of becoming Digimon King it’s like a child that grew up to be exactly what he wanted to be without anyone challenging said aspirations.
just imagine the hypothetical Omnimon like Digimon born out of the fusion of VictoryGrey and ZeedGaruru
That will be the strongest omnimon variant.
Wargreymon with a buster sword. Bad ass.
So happy to see this video, victorygreymon is my favorite digimon and now I know what story he appears in and why he's in very few vpets
Ahhh, a man of culture!!! That Pierro Umiliani intro is beautiful!!!
I wish Victorygreymon get x antibody and burst mode in the future
Also I wish he fuse together with zeedgaruromon to make a new omnimon
Late reply i have seen fan art called ultima-omnimon that is well just that
Hey Nostalgia, can you cover Cannondramon, Volcdramon, and Ultimate Brachiomon please?
Yeah I’d love to hear more about, Samudramon because I don’t know much if any. So I love the design and wanna hear more
Hia I’m quite of new viewer and I am hooked on this channel! Is it possible to do a episode on Victorymon?
This was an interesting video. I like seeing people discuss individual characters and the lore behind them in detail. Honestly I adore Victory Greymon’s lore and the way you described WarGreymon. It’s interesting seeing how different the two are despite their similar appearances. I’m definitely checking out the other stuff on your channel.
Hopefully we get more of VictoryGreymon and ZeedGarurumon
Your videos ALWAYS scratch that spot on my brain where many of my most fond memories are held. Thank you for everything you do my friend I've never met ❤️
When Nostalgia925 mentioned Emperor Greymon it reminded me of the fact that sometimes Digimon have their names changed when being translated and localized. For example, Emperor Greaymon is known as Kaiser Greymon in Japan (if you play the game Digimon Cyber Sleuth: Hacker's Memory, which I have been playing quite a bit of recently, he actually maintains the name Kaiser Greymon in the game instead of the Emperor Greymon name he had during the time Digimon Frontier's English Dub was airing), and by that same structure, Burning Greymon is known as Vritusmon in Japan. Now, this is what I managed to dig up with a little research, but the reason Burning Greymon/Vritusmon has a more "villainous" look is because it is based on the Vritra from Vedic and Hindu mythology, hence the name Vritusmon in Japan, its name in Japan is based on the creature it is supposed to be based on.
I suppose Nostalgia will have to do another video on Digimon and culture/mythology video to cover the inspiration for Burning Greymon/Vritusmon. Now, what I managed to uncover in my research is that the Digimon developers actually intended to have Burning Greymon/Vritusmon to sort of play against type. By this, I mean that the Vritra is an entity we would identify as evil, even in the mythology it comes from. The Vritra is described as being a serpent-like demonic dragon so big that it can coil itself around mountains and is said to have a hunger so ravenous it is forever looking for a way to consume the heavens, the exact quote found, in several sources, used the expression "so hungry it seeks to swallow the sky," but Burning Greymon/Vritusmon goes the other way in that it is a clearly demonic dragon but is tempered with heroic tendencies that are more in line with the will of heaven. And I suppose that is a good place for Nostalgia925 to sort of start his looking into things on that front.
Now, Nostalgia925 has mostly used the English names of Digimon while also adding in their Japanese name on occasion when he was able to find it, which is fine, for the most part, but I think that by not looking at the names Digimon have in Japan means you're missing out on some potential material for talking about. I suppose, discussing why some Digimon had their names changed when being localized while others didn't could be an interesting topic of conversation.
I think you got BurningGreymon's japanese name wrong, it's Vritramon just like the thing it's based off.
@@robiu013 From what I managed to gather, Burning Greymon is called Vritusmon in Japan. But you could be right, the sources I got the name from could have been working off a typo.
@@dracone4370 wikimon.net/Vritramon wikimon uses original japanese names and has a name & etimology section of it
Kaiser means emperor tho
I'd imagine if ice agomon got a cannon evolution line his mega would be more of a samurai style digimon taking traits from victory graymon and the dexgreymon line. Winter graymon would be a cool name for that
Honestly id love to see a video on RagnaLoardmon a dna digivolution of 2 mega level legendary arms type digimon that are also rivals.
Namely cause 2 megas that DNA digivolve into 1 is rather rare (especially when they aren't a version of greymon/garurumon)
There are quite a few actually with Rosemon & Lotusmon becoming Rafflesimon, Dracomon's 2 Stage 6 Forms (Breakdramon & Slayerdramon) Jogressing to become Examon & we can't forget Ordinemon from Tri, & Millenniummon also existing. I hadn't heard of Ragnaloardmon prior to your comment, I wonder how many other obscure Stage 6 Jogress Digimon exist?
I enjoyed the Video even so you are somewhat mistaken in your assessment, the Arbiters weren't created by Norun they were actually created using Digimemories otherwise known as the memories of the World, Realm or Universe by the true God of the Digital World aka Yggdrasil's creator (Yggdrasil is actually his version of a PC) as well as artificial data intervention by Yggdrasil itself also Yggdrasil wasn't created by Barbamon, the combined Digimemories did allow Barbamon to use the power of Yggdrasil to fuse them. The Dragon memory makes Victorygreymon the most powerful Dragon Digimon of all time, so powerful infact that they don't even register the existence of entities like the Seven Great Demon Lords.
The Arbitrators were a direct creation of Yggdrasil to destroy him should he get corrupted in Next. They are failsafe to the god that created everything that is in the Digital World.
Just found your channel and greatly enjoy the in depth info on various things about digimon which is easily one of my fav franchises. Look forward to further videos
YESSSS!! victorygreymon my favorite followed closely by wargreymon I prey he appears in this New anime if blitz made it him and zeed should be make it!!
This was pretty cool to watch! Nice little reminder of Digimon Next, its such a great Digimon manga! :D
I’d still like to see a Mastemon vs. Mastema (SMT) or the Mastemon and Lucemon video
The 2006 version of Agumon in his burst mode (Digimon savers) also defeated Yggdrasil, while Shinegreymon couldn't, maybe, that should've been taken into consideration while rating how strong Victorygreymon is, great video as always (^^)b
Agumon Burst Mode defeated Yggdrasil's7D6 avatar. Victorygreymon however defeated the True Yggdrasil(the deity) fused with a Demon Lord. Laying even a scratch on Yggdrasil would be impossible normaly. That's because God-like entities like Yggdrasil and Ogudomon X have something called the "Immortal Attribute". They are "Immortal Programs" and the concept that Digimon cannot do harm to entities such as this is an absolute law of nature. Yggdrasil created and manages all Digital Worlds(besides Illiad and the one from Tamers). As in an infinite number of infinite multi layered(layers=dimensions) multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time that are also higher and metaphysical realities in the anime fantasy setting that transcend the Human World(an infinite number of infinite multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time) at multiple levels of space-time and stand at a higher structural level than it.The DW is also managed through countless servers and even a server is multi-layered itself.
This is just the DW. Then you have worlds that transcend it as well.
- The Infinite Cauldron: The Infinite Cauldron is an infinite space where digital data is placed after being deleted.
It's large enough to hold the Digital World's data.
It has multiple layers: Dimension M, Dimension G, Dimension T, Dimension P, Dimension E, and Dimension Z.
Infinite Mountain: 100 floors each a dimension higher then the last proven by how in Decode you get the 3 and 6 Dimensional Reality items and as you move up you get the 12 dimensional and on the 100 floor the 24 dimensional reality from Yggdrasil.
The Super-Dimensional Space-Time
The Super Dimensional space-time is a world that lies on the exterior of all worlds and all space-times (where everyone lives in). It can be used to travel to many (likely all) worlds and space-times. This place is a melting pot of noise data that would atomize anything that gets in.
This is the realm of Homeostasis
And above all of them,the Kernel,the core of the Digital World wich transcends all worlds before it. It's on the 100th floor of Infinity Mountain and is implied to be a 24 Dimensional space. It holds the data of all there is in the Digital World past,present,future. Whoever controls the Kernel controls everything in the Digital World. Souls,minds,space,time,reality etc.
It overlaps all textures/ appearences of the Digital World.
Then you have Barbamon one of the Seven Great Demon Lords,beings so immensly powerful that the Digital World's system (Yggdrasil) considered them to be too powerful to be let in their complete forms so he put a seal upon them as in they had their essence spilt across the entire multiverse(infinite number of infinite multiverses each with multi-dimensions,infinite timelines). And on their profiles on the Digimon Web Agumon Hakase says about them "Agumon Hakase adds... Even a single one of them has the power to destroy the world, but to have them all attack at once is truly terrifying."
World as in all worlds.
That's who Victorygreymon sliced in half. A fusion of two infinitely multiversal beings. Agumon Burst Mode only destroyed one of Yggdrasil's avatars.
Interesting video. I've seen VictoryGreymon a few times in fanfiction, but I had no idea what it was. I would definitely be interested in seeing you do a video on ZeedGarurumon at some point in the future.
can I say how much I love victorygreymon every since I first saw it in championship
I Still have one!He Rocks!
Also, I think the digital world has 5-6 gods that we know of. There's yggdrasil, the 4 others from the wonderswan or ds games (i don't remember exactly, I just remember them being some sort of cristal balls) and homeostasis from tri. And maybe the things from Cyber Sleuth.
Idea for a video.
Discussing non digimon life forms in the digimon franchise, like Neo, Dreaper, etc
I really want to see you do a Lucemon evolutionline.
VictoryGreymon is a modified WarGreymon Same goes for ZeedGarurumon, AND Giaomon/Samurdramon
Please do video on Mastemon would rly like to see how much you can find on her
Just saw your wargreymon video 🙌🏼
“It has never been confirmed that they are the same.” Well yeah, that’s why it’s called a “theory.”
I always thought that the phrase "The Dramon Destroyers put WarGreymon's own life at risk" was in reference to the possibility that WarGreymon could swing the blades at another Dramon type, miss, & accidentally cut himself fatally. Just a thought I had since age 9 or so, but I could be wrong!
Love this video, I always wanted to know more about victory greymon sense he was on the front of digimon world championship (a very meh game overall but still fun to little me). I never saw him again after that though so I'm glad to see this video, nice job!
VictoryGreymon, we need a video separating the difference between the goal of Devimon & Myotosmon also I will be contacting you soon we need these as documentary set up release wise
Blitzgreymon in another video
I'd love an explaining video on Diaboromon
Nostalgia You have to make a tier list of Digital beings that are in the Digimon world that are not digimon because it’s kind of amazing how many are not considered Digimon
I would love to see an amine version of digimon next because of how cool victorygreymon is. I now understand why it not possible or should not be possible for it to show up it the 2020 show.
If Digimon Adventure 2020 gets a second season it could be possible for Tai's Agumon to become Victorygreymon.
@@zenvariety9383 I will say this it is possible due to the show having it's own rules but the likelihood of it happening is very and I repeat very low. Only time will tell
@@brianlampley7650 true. Yet if it were to happen it would definitely be in the second season of Digimon Adventure 2020. Yet if they do a second season then besides Victorygreymon and ZeedGarurumon we could see Lovelyangemon and other new mega digivolutions that haven't appeared in the anime or are completely new.
A little bit off topic, but recently I was thinking...
If WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon become Omegamon/Omnimon, and BlitzGreymond and CresGarurumon become Omegamon Alter-S.... What would result in a fusion between WarGreymon and CresGarurumon or BlitzGreymon and MetalGarurumon? Some sort of Omegamon with two swords or two cannons I suppose. I'm kinda curious how that would look.
I got one even better for you...what happens when victorygreymon and zeedgarurumon fuse the insane power of that omnimon variation will bust the universe lol
That's an interesting thought design-wise, but my mind automatically conjures up the difficulties of trying to run 2020 programs on 1995 software or vice versa, or even expecting perfect Windows and Mac program compatability/integration... I can't see it working perfectly but it'd be pretty cool if there was some kind of desparity or glitch in the fusion because of incompatible/foreign data.
@@conspiracypanda1200 how fitting with the dates considering that Yggdrasil Linux was made in 1992. Which I theorize is what Yggdrasil originally was.
Even without Masters making this a Burst Mode, is it any wonder people think VictoryGreymon is stronger when that manga was so crazy?
hang on. If z-garurumon V-greymon were to DNA digivolve, what would we get? A buffed up side version of omnimon or something else?
Of course they'll become a new type of omnimon
We'll never know till they make one
History nerd here with knowledge about medieval weapons: the reason the dramon killers put the user at risk is probably the same reason you didn't see claw weapons in widespread use in pre-firearms warfare. You have to get in really close to use such weapons and on the battlefield a spear was your primary weapon and a one handed sword was your secondary weapon, both being of much longer reach than Wolverine-claws.
Many Digimon have long-range attacks and/or much longer weapons, and thusly it's possible that the only reason the user is at risk is a fairly mundane and practical reason.
It's not that . It's the fact that the Dramon Killers are anti-dragon weapons. They are deadly to all Dragon Digimon not just Digimon with "dramon" in their names. Dramon stands for Dragon Monster Species. Any Digimon(and there are a ton) that has dragon-factor data in its Digicore is a Dramon by default.
Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon Man-types. Wich means those claws are as deadly to them as to any dragon digimon wich makes these weapons double edged swords.
hoping you could talk about/make a video why digimons of the same LEVEL differ in power/battle strenght?
starting from champion to mega level
what are the pro and cons of that
Levels are not a show of strength. Level are akin to life stages. So a Digimon's power should be judged by its feats and abillities not its level.
I hopes someday we get a omegamon version of VictotoryGreymon and ZeedGarurumon.
My 2nd favorite greymon species
Man your a handsome guy, might have a new crush lol. I hope VictoryGreymon makes an appearance in the 2020 reboot and maybe finally get it's Omnimon/Omegamon form
Thank you for your amazing research!
Please talk about Blitzgreymon it came out in the new Digimon 2020
Your content is so dope! It would be dope if you were able to go in depth about the twin digimon Terriermon and Lopmon
That is planned my good friend. We will explore everything
@@DigimonExplained oh snap! I can't wait! I've always wondered why they never had a 2 horned twin lol
How about a vid about Zeromaru the veedramon and his story since he’s had a lot go through.
Could you do a what if video on what would happen if the different digidestined learned how to biomerge?
I have a theory about the dramon killers for what it could mean by puts the users life at risk. Basically my theory is because wargreymon has to get up close and personal with there opponents to use them effectively and thus puts it at risk of serious or even fatal injuries from there opponent cause well the armor doesn’t cover there whole body since an attacker can try and go for its legs since they have the least amount of armor covering them for example.
They are anti-dragon weapons. All Dragon Digimon are susceptible to them. Dramon stands for Dragon Monster Species. All Digimon that have Dragon-factor data in their Digicore are Dramon by default. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon Man-Types.
Wich means they are every bit as susceptible to their own weapons.
@Nostalgia925 I love your work And I seen all of your videos but I been wondering most Digimon has black belts around there bodies like Victorygreymon Ogremon and etc. I wonder is this just a design of the illustrator or is there a deep meaning of them?
I think we need another VICTORYGREYMON video because his timeline and power are impressive, if it can put a stop to NEO the life form most powerful in the Digimon Universe, it's way stranger than any Omnimon in the digital world! and also I think we need to talk about NEO who can bend time and space, he can even destroy universes, and in the manga NEO he didn't even use all his strength, he had much much more power, I think he can beat the phoenix, in the manga he let himself died.
My favorite digimon.
Please do a video on Arkadimon.
I have been thinking about the design on Gallantmon Crimson Mode. Due to the 10 wings witch makes me question if he's part of the angel family, along withbeing based on either Ragule The Angel of Justice or Uriel The Gate Keeper .
I Think He is The True Form Of Saint Michael The Archangel,Even If Seraphimon Is Also Based on Him!In Dawn/Dusk,You Can Jogress Gallantmon With Seraphimon To Get Him,Which Proves My Point!
Oh that greymon was in digimon championship
The origins of Victorygreymon and Zeedgarurumon are actually from Battle Terminal 2 not Digimon NEXT. They are the reincarnations of the Royal Knight Dukemon and Metalgarurumon. Upon their defeat the Seven Great Demon Lords launch Tempest,a crack virus in the Digital World that corrupts the four Holy Beasts by turning their binary code to trinary and eroding their digicore. One of the fights in BT2 is Dukemon&Metalgarurumon vs Qinglongmon.
In the 1st fight they act on their own and do not cooperate as they are from rival factions that were at war after the defeat of the Demon Lords and get easily defeated without landing a single hit. In the 2nd fight they cooperate and manage to bring Qinglongmon back to his senses but get so wounded in the process that they are nearly dead.
Before going to sleep to recover Qinglongmon gives the dying Digimon a special program and they leave behind never seen before Digitama. Dukemon is reborn as Victorygreymon and Metalgarurumon is reborn as Zeedgarurumon.
But digimon next released in 2006 while battle terminal 2 in 2007.
So where was it when Yggdrasil was corrupted by Eaters in Cyber Sleuth?
I can definitely imagine a digimon universe where VictoryGreymon had to use the x-antibody in a situation,similar to what King Drasil did but because it got corrupted,not out of its own will. Or a digimon using this opportunity to steal some data from VictoryGreymon,to possibly make a virus counterpart of him.
This guy can already obliterate all Royal Knights besides Jesmon with OS Generics. How broken do you want him to get?
I still think that VictoryGreymon being an evolution of WarGreymon is still plausible. But given that Metalgreymon was able to evolve to BlitzGreymon as an alternate in the Digimon 2020 show it won't be far off that they would the same for V-Greymon
I would like to think the prefix name they have "War" (can fight or A Warrior) and "Victory" (able to win or being Victorious). I would like to give an analogy that being a just Warrior is weaker and a Digimon that gives Victory.
Another theory I have is the new show would make Greymon evovle to RizeGreymon then become VictoryGreymon like Patamon being able to become Pegasusmon unable to evolve to Angemon. Kinda contrived but offers a lot of possibilities.
I assume the reason the Dramon Killers put the user in danger is because they're such short-reach weapons. They're specially designed to pierce the armor of dramon-species digimon, but in order to actually accomplish that you need to get right up against the enemy. A more swordlike weapon would be able to make a cut while giving the user more breathing room, but for some reason there may be something about the way dramon's natural defenses work where claw weapons have a better effectiveness.
They put the user in danger because they are anti-dragon weapons. All Digimon that are in any way,shape or form dragons are susceptible to them. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon included. This makes them a double edged sword.
I'm almost sure the dukemon data on victory theory came from digimon world re:digitize, one of the requirements for evolution for victory in game was "have a dukemon as a partner previously". People thought that meant something :v
It came from Battle Terminal 2 where the four Holy Beasts were corrupted by a crack virus named Tempest that the Seven Great Demon Lords unleashed upon their defeat.
And one of the battles there was the Royal Knight Dukemon & Metalgarurumon vs Qinglongmon.
They first fight without cooperating as they are from different rival factions and get defeated without laying a single scratch. Once they cooperate they manage to make Qinglongmon regain his sanity but are so gruesomely wounded that they are near death and loose their lives.
Before going to sleep to recover,Qinglongmon give the dying Digimon a special program and upon their death they leave behind never seen before Digitama.
Dukemon reincarnates as Victorygreymon,Metalgarurumon reincarnates as Zeedgarurumon.
dark pheonix has one major weakness its vescole.when one takes a certain amount of damage it tends to abondon them.
The way I describe victory greymon is he went to final fantasy and beat up cloud stole his sword and is using it better then cloud ever could
To me it is like someone took the design of wargreymon and interjected a fair bit of Berserk into it.
Hey if greymon dark digievolve to skullgreymon and MetalGreymon dark digievolve to Machinedramon what will Agumon dark digievolve into if he even has one?
Agumon may slide-evolve into BlackAgumon before digivolving into BlackGreymon & eventually either BlitzGreymon, BlackWarGreymon or Machinedramon for Stage 6. MetalGreymon (Virus) & SkullGreymon are the Dark Stage 5 forms.
Samudramon or Gaioumon one of the coolest design, very samurai'ish
Nice Ocarina of Time music, haven't heard that in a while
Fun Theory Id love to see is RizeGreymon
1. If It is gained a Alteros mode equivalent what would it be?
2. What made it so different from its metal greymon couterpart
3. And most importantly why it doesn't Evolve into blitzgreymon despite its strong similarities to it compared to shine greymon?
1.probably beam saber or more railgun on his hip
2.more or less a "refined" and streamlined version.
3.a couple of thing i supposed,
-first is naming scheme Rise and Shine.
-then there is a punk with a heart of gold aspect. Masaru(Marcus) is a delinquent you could argue that he already has a good heart since the beginning, but he grew up more and more into a fine lad which reflect in GeoAgumon evolution being more streamline, regal and heroic(Rize and Shine) when compared to metal greymon and wargreymon(metal looks really crude like he is the 1.0 version of his line while WarGreymon looks like a tribal warrior). Rize evolve into Blitz wouldn't fits with this bills.
-the last thing is probably a nod to Masaru VA specifically JP VA. Souichirou Hoshi has one really popular role prior to Digimon Savers which is Gundam SEED protagonist, Kira Yamato, the pilot of Freedom Gundam. if you noticed both Rize and Shine greymon has a similar wing design motif to Freedom Gundam with the big individual fins and weapon attached to each side of the wings.
Rookie (Child) - Champion (Adult) - Ultimate (Perfect) - Mega (Ultimate) = Stages of Evolution. Super-Ultimate is beyond that but only in certain medias.
VictoryGreymon is what I believe is the either "Super-Ultimate" stage of evolution, after 'Ultimate' or a "Mode Change" Evolution. It's just like how Dukemon has Crimson Mode. The wiki or most games' evolution traits seems to show that Wargreymon Digivolves into VictoryGreymon. So I do believe that there is some truth there. Though I think they need to clarify further.
Since VictoryGreymon Digivolves from Wargreymon or Rizegreymon, wouldn't that make him "Super Ultimate" stage of evolution?
Since VictoryGreymon is considered a "Side-Mega" or "Mode Change", how is that different from Dukemon Crimson Mode?
(Dukemon does not seem to change name but VictoryGreymon does). Though this might tie into the Digisoul Factor but that's another topic...
If VictoryGreymon is another version of Mega Digivolution, that'd make more sense, given that VictoryGreymon can Digivolve from RizeGreymon which is an 'Perfect' level.
As for weapons...
I think it's not far-fetched that Dramon Breaker is made from Dramon Killer's Data. They're not re-forged but Re-Programmed or Updated Data.
BushiAgumon would make a great rookie from for VictoryGreymon. BushiAgumon could have two mega evolution forms that Samurai Greymon and Victorygreymon
Agumon Bond of Courage VS Victorygreymon?
Great video has always. I didn't comment in the community page because he didn't had anything to say that wasn't allready said.
Just saying, the anime just introduce Blitzgeymon for the first time in media. What do you think about this new digimon and his counterpart, Crestgarurumon?
Also, it came to be because it used the energy of a pillar of energy containing the power of another digimon and adapted to his environnement. It reminds of your theory Coldgreymon right. ;)
is that means , zeedgarurumon has same powers and strenght too ?
Hearing the idea this dude was made from Gallantmon sounds pretty out there, but wasn't Guilmon designed to be an upgraded Agumon?
Does anybody know what the game is at the 5:49 point? The one with all the little Elecmon running around.
can you make a video on NEO,i'd greatly appreciate if you did.
I thought Victorygreymon was an x variant, but looking into his lore apparently he is way stronger than even omnimon x. This really surprised me. nostalgia u should really do a video comparing the strongest greymon spices Digimon ( victorygreymon, ancient greymon, crest of brave greymon from the movie and the x variants). Also, let me just say that ancient greymon was said to be the absolute Pinnacle of power for the greymon species during his time and every greymon today inherited their power from him.in fact, we have yet to see his modern version ( emperorgreymon is not ancientgreymon he is a fusion ancientgreymon wasn't), in fact ancient greymon isn't even his real name, we don't even know that. Last discuss the possibility of a victorygreymon a zekgarurumon fusion. Would it even be an omnimon? I just love the speculation videos u do like the case of ice agumon.
Didn't AncientGreymon make appearances in the series though? Cold War Greymon sounds so cool, & it's kind of sad a lot of the other Chosen Children Partner Families don't get new variations like Greymon & Garurumon do. At least Kabuterimon got referenced in the Thunder Spirits like how Greymon (Fire) & Garurumon (Light) were, & a few of the Destined Digimon get X Forms, while Angemon essentially become the basis for most angel digimon.
my favorite Digimon >
probably the reason that Dramon Destroyers endanger their wielder is that they're completely melee
They endanger the user because they are anti-dragon weapons. They are deadly to all dragon Digimon.
Dramon are digimon with Dragon factor data in their digicore. The higher the % the more dragon-like they look. Dramon stands for Dragon Monster Species. Wargreymon/Blackwargreymon are Dragon-Man Digimon so they are every bit as susceptible to them
Honestly I think Victorygreymon and zeedgarurumon look the way they do because of how well known/legendary Omnimon/omegamon is since it's the royal knight know to interact with the common digimon the most and its components (wargreymon and metalgarurumon) are pretty famous "common" megas so when it designed its contingency digimon it gave them an appearance that wouldn't look at out of line, no one would make a passing glance at a wargreymon or metalgarurumon variant except for the few that actually know there's something off with these variants. Though to have that kinda of knowledge you would probably have an idea about Yggdrasil itself. Yggdrasil doesn't know when,where or how it will go out of control so best to have a backup plan that is designed for one purpose but looks like a "common" digimon
Gankoomon and JESmon are actually the ones that interact with the common digimon the most out of all the royal knights, not Omnimon. In all honesty it probably was because either wargreymon and metalgarurumon were "natural" digivolutions and already belonged to the family or that the designs of wargreymon and metalgarurumon were used as the template for the arbiters. Though the truth really is just pure marketing and renown on our end. They have more forms and variations than Charizard.
@@andresmarrero8666 you're right I forget the roles of all the royal knights...alot but I think theres a simpler in lore answer as well you're right for the real world answer. Ancientgreymon and ancientgarurumon are legendary digimon with nearly all dinosaur and beast digimon drawing a lineage from those 2 digimon that famous and renown would probably even have the respect of the god computer itself since their feats and accomplishments parallels it's own royal knights so why not have the safety measure be digimon inspired by them.
I was going to agree with you about having more forms than Charizard then realized I have to count all 4 Shiny Forms in addition to the Smash Charizard Colors & Charizardtwo for a total of 16 forms. Also technically WarGreymon & MetalGarurumon interact more than Gankoomon & Jesmon just because of how late the latter 2 arrived in the series. Because of Omegamon/Omnimon being their Jogress 1 could argue that they have interacted more than Gankoomon & Jesmon have just from appearing more.
Not sure if this count, but VictoryGreymon survived a shot to destroy a whole universe from Neo, can that say anything about it's defense, and the Phoenix Force can only destroy planet (so far). Also, the Infinity Stones together may have the power to destroy the Universe, which is on par with Neo, also which can turn Dark Phoenix to dust with a snap. Just doing some comparisons.
A universe? Nope it destroyed both the Human and the Digital World. And they are not just two universes.
Digital World - infinite number of infinite multi layered multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time. The Digital World in all showings besides Tamers in V-Tamers 01 is a higher and metaphysical reality that transcends the Human World at multiple levels of space-time,stands at a higher structural level then it,and it is so big that even if all rendering resources in the Human World would be used it would be impossible to render it. In Xros Wars(manga) when the Digital World was split in 108 zones the Human World was just 1/108 zones.
-The Network between the Human and Digital Worlds. Multi-layered.Cyberspace EDEN wich itself multi-layerd and has multiple servers
is just a small metaverse in the network and a single of its servers (the Abyss server)was stated by Grandracumon to have infinite information and would have granted to GranDracmon the energy to conquer both Human and Digital Worlds.
The Digital World also has other worlds like the -Net Ocean
-The Dark ocean wich is the embodiment of the dark hearts of humans
-The Dark Area,an infinite void of absolute nothingness where conventional space and time do not exist set in a different layer,in a dimensional distortion.
It is multi-layered with 6 layers.
-The world that turns wishes to reality from 02.
Then there are worlds that transcend the Digital World itself.
-The Infinite Cauldron: The Infinite Cauldron is an infinite space where digital data is placed after being deleted. It's large enough to hold the Digital World's data. It has multiple layers: Dimension M, Dimension G, Dimension T, Dimension P, Dimension E, and Dimension Z.
-Infinite Mountain: 100 floors each a dimension higher then the last proven by how in Decode you get the 3 and 6 Dimensional Reality items and as you move up you get the 12 dimensional and on the 100 floor the 24 dimensional reality from Yggdrasil.
-The Super-Dimensional Space-Time The Super Dimensional space-time is a world that lies on the exterior of all worlds and all space-times (where everyone lives in). It can be used to travel to many (likely all) worlds and space-times. This place is a melting pot of noise data that would atomize anything that gets in. This is the realm of Homeostasis.
-And above all of them,the Kernel,the core of the Digital World wich transcends all worlds before it. It's on the 100th floor of Infinity Mountain and is implied to be a 24 Dimensional space. It holds the data of all there is in the Digital World past,present,future. Whoever controls the Kernel controls everything in the Digital World. Souls,minds,space,time,reality etc.
The Kernel makes you nigh-omnipotent in the Digital World. It overlaps all textures/ appearences of the Digital World.
EDIT:layers= dimensions
EDIT 2: The Digital World being a higher and metaphysical reality that transcends the human world at multiple levels of space-time and stands at a higher structural level then it comes from the fact that the Digimon Cosmology in the anime-fantasy setting(wich is used also in many manga and games,cyber sleuth,hackers memory and the upcoming survive use it) is set around higher planes of reality transcending lower planes of reality.
In this setting the Digital World existed far before the real world as a chaotic primordial world called Idea. And Digimon existed as yokai,shikigami,spirits,demons that inhabit this world. Tehnology only allowed humans to tap into a small part of the Digital World and what were once yokai,shikigami,spirits,demons became "digital monsters" to fit the perception of reality of human beings.Magic for Digimon is high-level programming language. Here Digimon are also the metaphysical manifestation of each and every humans souls. The missing piece of the souls of the inhabitants of the lower worlds. Their alter egos.
Human World- infinite number of infinite multiverses with infinite timelines,infinite parallel dimensions,infinitely branching space-time.
N.E.O's Zero Genesis destroyed all of these worlds and Zeedgarurumon&Victorygreymon received the attack at point-blank range unscathed.
can VictoryGreymon and Z'dGarurumon make a new omegamon ?
Yes lads
I would argue that Gaiomon is the closest thing to a black Victorygreymon we have
How would victory greymon and/or zeedgarurumon fair against digimons up on millenniummon teir power
WarGreymon is a dragon man type digimon which means he's also weak to the dramon destroyers
I'm really surprised that him and zeedgarurumon still hasn't formed a omnimon form yet like almost every other greymon and garurumon mega forms has
Why isn't there a Digi fusion between Victory Greymon and Zeedgarurumon ?