John Deere run 30 minutes then quit. Easy Fix!
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John Deere X 485 fuel pump hose replace. My John Deere would run 30 minutes then quit. I found the problem.
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Just wanted to say thanks! Had a neighbor with a Deere X720 that did something very similar. Came across your video and decided I would take a crack at it for him. Sure enough, rubber hose on the fuel pump was split down the middle. Got it fixed for him for $5 bucks. Knocked out a good deed, and he thinks I am an ace mechanic. Thanks for putting this information out there. Really saved an elderly man a lot of money over taking it to John Deere and paying them for the repair. I suspect they would have replaced the whole fuel pump unit, plus labor. Keep doing what you are doing!
Happy to help. Thanks for watching and sharing. Stay Healthy!!
My fathers x485 -620 hours had the same issues for several years , after warming up engine miss ,would idle but no power . Followed your videos fixes, but engine miss remained. The cure for my 92 year old fathers x485 was valve lash clearance. I think the valves had slightly recessed, there by decreasing Valve clearance, motor would heat up -valve length expand just enough to keep valve from seating properly and the engine miss once again. Opened up valve clearance several thousands of an inch. After chasing engine miss several years this fixed our engine miss. Remove valve covers,roll engine over to point were rocker arms are loose and check/adjust valve clearance. Amen
Hi Ed! Your video is still helping today! 8/10/18. Ended up buying the whole new fuel assembly. The pump was not running at all. I did not get to your other vid showing the very tiny fuel strainer at the pump. My pump was clogged and obviously failed. Thanks for doing the videos. I can make my 485 last a lot longer. With these, this will be regular maintenance more frequent now on. Purchased summer 2003 and still going. Same deck and 3 acres every two weeks. Thx! -Terry
I like your demeanor and the fact that you took the trouble to make the video. You saved a lot of folks $$$ !!!
I just thought that if my mower is doing this I bet that there are a lot of other with the same problem. Happy to help. Stay Safe.
Great job sir! I loved how calm you were about the job and took it step by step! I learned a lot from watching your video! And even had a chuckle or two with the gas cap in the the tank. Over all you did a great job and saved a lot of money and probably did a better job too!
Thanks for sharing the information. Stay Safe!!
Another excellent video, love the way you approach problems with machinery and also your outboard videos, always interesting and informative ,thankyou for your time and presentation.
Maybe it was running cause it was just bypassing the filter and sucking straight into the pump?? Might not have run at all if the fuel level got lower. Just guessing.
Thanks you did a great job showing us how to do that. It didn't look to easy to me because i'm 88 years old but I now know how to do it, that's the main thing. God Bless You
Thank you for commenting. I am a little younger then you at 65. Your right it seems like everything is heaver than it once was. God Bless Us All!!
I cant tell you how much your videos help me learn. I haev a 2002 X585 and you have saved me a ton of money.
Happy to help and thank you.
Had the same problem on my X585. followed the video and guess what? fuel line not connected. Terrific job. Saved me a ton of time and $$$.
Tim Arends Happy to help
Just fixed my X485, exact same problem, pump was disconnected, would run poorly after 20 minutes. Thanks for making this video
Happy it help. Thanks for the comment and keep watching. Stay safe.
GREAT video! Very helpful and saved my husband a lot of time and money. The fuel line was not connected.
Happy to help.
I purchased an X485 at an auction and when I got it home, she was running rough after about 30-60 minutes of mowing. I first watched your video about the tune up kit and bought one tuned it up. I still had problems and was ready to take it back to the auction to sell it but I figured let me check your channel and I watched this video and decided to check out the fuel pump and I found the exact problem with the pump being separated from the hose, except I did not find a gas can cap. I replaced the hose and clamps and she purrs like a kitten. Your video not only saved me money but now I get to keep the tractor because its a great one. Your videos are perfect. Next I am following your video to service the mower deck. Thanks again
I am happy the video helped you. Thanks for sharing. Stay Safe.
I love people that can accomplish things with their hands. Thanks a million for sharing!!! Good job!!!
Thanks for watching!
Followed your instructions on my 445. The little hose was still attached but had a split in it. Got it all replaced and it works just great now. Thanks so much for your video. Save me a ton of money!
I am happy it helped you out. Check out some of my other videos.
Happy to help. Thanks for watching and stay safe!!
Thanks so much I’ve done everything I could think of to my 445 everything, that hose you’re talking about there is exactly what was wrong with it
I have a 1996 John Deere 445 that I just used this video to repair, today! I replaced the 4 inch piece, I had so much fuel hose leftover, i just replaced the entire line. Thanks for this video, man! Really helped me out! AFTER THIS FIX MY 1996 JD 445 RUNS LIKE BRAND NEW! ZERO CHANCE OF STALLING, NOW!
Glad it helped, Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@OmFishing Well, after about 2 acres of cutting it started surging again. Not as bad. And recovery time (cool down to start up again), is better. But I am still having issues after changing fuel filter, fuel line, fuel pump hose, complete tune up, using stabilizer gas ... could you suggest another fix? Sea Foam?
Thanks for the video, nice tractor well designed, but rarely come available for sale.
The previous clamps on the hose out of the pump were pex clamps, worth looking into. They are becoming popular in new water install and work great.
Thanks for the tip. Thanks for commenting and sharing your knowledge.
I Just Want To Say Thank You For Putting This On. We Have Spent Thousands Of Dollars Taking It To JOHN DEERE $125 An Hour. They Put A New Wiring Harness On It Last Time. I Decided To Check If It Was The Same As Yours. It Was A Splitting Image Of Yours. The Hose Was Not Connected. After A New Hose Put It Back Together And Runs Like A Champ!
Thank You Sir.
I am happy it helped you. Thanks for sharing.
You Are A Big Help, For People That Are Not Rich. Thanks Again.
Great video, thanks for showing the unedited versions of your videos. Glad to see you found your gas cap!
Thanks for watching and the comment.
i SO respect people who fix there own stuff !! great job , great video , thanks. probably saved yourself anywhere from 100 to 300 bucks depending on where you took it ? keep up the good work bud!
Thanks for watching and commenting Stay Safe!!
Great video. Saved a lot of money doing it yourself.
Thank you very much! I need to do fix the fuel line. Yet, I think I bought the L100. I plan to make the necessary repairs later this Spring. GOD Bless!!!
Thanks for commenting. Let me know how it works out for you. Stay Healthy!! God Bless Us All.
Don't know yet but, thanks for the information. My neighbor is having the same problem and I've been wanting to help her out because no one seems to be able to repair it. My turn I suppose. Hopefully you've just made my job easier. Thanks again.
I sure hope it helps. Let me know how you make out with you mower. Stay Safe!!
Nice work and thanks for posting. Something to look out for if I have a similar problem.
Hope it helps you I just thought that if I was having this problem maybe others were too.
Fixed my X485 ! Thank you so much.
You did good. Thanks for taking the time to share that knowledge with us.
Thanks and Stay Safe!
"I made it look difficult but it wasn't" lol. Thank you! Going to try this on my JD.
Stay Safe and make sure you let me know if it works for you.
Very excellent video. Took the fear out of digging into the gas tank.
A carbuerator for a John Deere x309
glad you fixed your problem rather simply. You just gave me another reason not to buy a John Deere. By the way serging is many many times caused by the carburetor. Nice video. Thanks for not having obnoxious music.
I had trouble with my john deere tractor running then stalling after 5 minutes we thought is was the fuel pump we changed it still did the same thing I put gum out with pea in the tank left it set over night still no fuel coming out of hose I jacked the back of the tractor up then all of a sudden the fuel started gushing out of hose well it fixed the problem thank GOD
Good to hear you got it. Thanks for commenting and sharing the fix with us. Stay Safe!!
Great job I like watching your videos keep them coming 👍
Great Video, thanks, I need to tear into my 445 to hopefully find the same issue to my problem. Your X machine and my 445 look very similar in the fuel pump department. Thanks!
Happy to help, be sure to let me know how it works out for you.
@@OmFishing here it is. Thanks. ruclips.net/video/FrryN4Cj0Jw/видео.html
Nailed it my friend. After a broken wire on the EFI temp sensor, and a governor adjustment, she purrs. $0 for parts! ... since I had fuel line and clamps laying around
Happy to help and thanks for watching.
Thanks! Mine had the exact problem, The pump came loose from the gas line.
Thanks for the info I also have a X485 and encountered a a surging issue and odd sound from the fuel pump , I performed the same operation as you and found the same issue. JD should have made a cradle to support the pump and used a non -worm gear and non- pinch hose clamp.
I agree John Deere could have done better. Thanks for commenting.
I experienced the same problem with my JD 425. The hose on the electric fuel pump had vibrated off . You could hear the pump splashing fuel in the tank. That is how I diagnosed the problem. The pump worked fine. I replaced the hose and installed new clamps.
Thanks for sharing. I guess this problem is a common one. Thanks for watching and stay safe.
Thanks. Nice video. Guess I have to fix my tractor now.
Thanks for watching and Stay Safe!!
had the exact same problem with mine. wished I would have watched you before I spent $223 at the JD store. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I have fixed this problem for my neighbor 2x now. The problem I have found is that using regular fuel line for this repair will make it fail in pretty short order. Most fuel line is not rated for being submerged in gas. The fuel line needs to meet the SAE 30 R10 standard. Most auto parts stores do not stock it, but can order it and have it in store in a day or two. The cost on it is about $20-$30 per foot, but it beats doing this job multiple times. I am about to tear into his for the 3rd time. Hopefully this will be the last.
16:29 nice idea those spring hose clamps normally loose a bit of tension over time.
17:18 when u was moving to shade tree thought u had seat on & was giving us a sample of a "low" rider, driver mower.
You might be on to something. I have not seen one yet.
I just fixed the same problem with mine, thanks for the video!!
Good to hear! Thanks for commenting.
This sorta thing happened to my Power King tractor. It doesn't have a fuel pump in it, it's gravity fed, however, replaced the fuel line in it and included a fuel filter on the line, now she runs super good.
Your right sometimes a small repair will make a big difference. The filter was a good idea.
Great video. Learned a lot. Thank you.
My chain saw had a similar problem. The fuel line had a strange liner that I had to abandon with the replaced line but it solved my problem.
Good to hear yea it will not run with out fuel.
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Had the same problem, thanks for the video!
Thanks for sharing that information. Keep watching and Stay Safe.
Very interesting. Ghanks for that info.
Thanks for the info. Was hoping that was my problem. But unfortunately it wasn’t
If you fill the tank all the way full would it still shut off after running for a while my tractor is a John Deere 425 and it seems to shut off after 30 minutes of writing it and mowing with it let it cool down and it starts right back up
I pulled the fuel pump and found the short in tank hose was bad. I was actually disconnected from fuel pump when I removed the assembly. Finding a new piece of fuel line was impossible on a Saturday. None of the parts stores in town had any that was rated for in tank. Ended up going to a motor sports shop where they work on ATVs , Snow machines, wave runners, and the like. They gave me a 4" piece that they said would be OK inside a fuel tank. It runs good now.
That's what happen to me too. Not everybody had the gas line for in the tank.
Very good video and helpful thank you for posting.😊
The filter is just a filter. If it ran for 30 minutes that was probably how long it took gas level to reach the break. Great video!
You are probably right. Thanks for commenting!!
Really good work. The clatter when you shut it off is not normal. You need to pull the valve cover off and adjust the valves before a pushrod falls out of the rocker. What it sounds like except you never said anything about hard starting. Might be something else loose.
Hi there I’m having the same issue on my x320 why after 30 minutes? Mine is doing same thing. Thank you
Very well done and helpful video, thanks much!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting.
yep saw it on the 425 as well and loose hose clamps too
I would have never thought that so many people would have had the same problem. Thanks for commenting and Stay Safe!!
Very helpful video Ed, thanks! Good job! A very inexpensive fix, I am surprised this hose deteriorated so quickly with so few hours. Probably the crappy gasoline we are using. I know that ethanol is hard on rubber fuel system parts in automotive applications.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting!
My X530 is doing the same thing. It’ll run for a while and stop. It won’t crank. It it’ll turn over. Once it sits for a while it fires right back up.
Make sense that the line could be broken or loose etc. When the fuel is sloshing the hose can’t get fuel but when the mower sits still and the fuel settles the hose touches just right again and fires up. The cycle continues
I’ll take mine apart in a day or 2 and let you know of this was my issue also.
Thank you for explaing so well.
Happy to help. Keep watching my video's
Thanks you saved me on my X585
I am happy it help. Stay safe.
Do you have to have submersible hoses? There’s. Special hose for that that will not work.V
I’m having a similar issue with my John Deere gator. It will run for about 30 mins then start to loose power and eventually die. It’s not the same as this mower, but it might be a similar type issue. Thanks for the info!
I hope it helps. Be sure and let me Know.
The hose clamp you replaced was a constant tension clamp. They're useful for still providing tension with temperature change.
My mower is still running good. Working good so far.
Most impressive. More so that you put gas cap on as soon as you could. Many would have just left it off for the duration. 2 thumbs up.
Thanks we think a like!
First time seeing the rear fenders off.
Amazing how much crud was sitting on top the fuel tank.
That was my thought too. Lots of clean up.
Probably should have used some submersable fuel hose. Being imersed in gas will breakdown the outside of standard fuel hose in no time. Just my 2 cents. Stuff is pretty expensive compared to standard fuel hose.
Back pressure first, may be debris clogging the fuel line. Watch the inline filter until the engine struggles, that will show the gas flow decreasing.
I had a smaller L110 JD with similar symptoms. The little tiny breather hole in the gas cap was plugged. Pushed a wire through it and the problem was gone.
You are right, sometime the problem is a real simple fix. And sometimes it takes a long time to find.
Same problem and same solution.
Same problem,same fix
My Toro developed a fault where it would run for 45-60 mins then start bogging down. Next day it was fine for roughly the same time. Thought it was overheating or coil/diode breakdown but turned out to be an insect in the fuel tank ! Seems it was taking that long to settle to the bottom of the tank after refueling at the start of each session. Never would have believed it given how much the fuel sloshes around on my rough grass.
Trying to find stuff like that will make your head hurt. Thanks for sharing and commenting. That is what it is all about helping each other through the school of hard knocks.
Way to go man !
Dang that thing cleaned up good
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Where did you find that metal part to replace for in the tank? My JD 185 hydro has the same issue. I had to fish the rusted piece of metal out of the tank.
I only replaced the rubber hose and the clamps. I used the old pump.
Good Job!
Thank You
Having problems with my X485 surging when warmed up and won't start when its hot. Suspect the same problem. Will be checking out my fuel pump too. $285 +tax for new pump at JD Ouch. They don't see just the pump for this model anymore it seams. Wonder if the pump for the X720, X724, X728, & X 729 (AM136612) will work. Its $115. Thanks for making the video.
Randy Ashcraft Try non ethanol gas first mind will do that with cheap gas.
I cant believe how over engineered these are. My 34 year old Craftsman GT briggs twin only costs $15 for carb & fuel pump rebuild kit. Why do they think a garden tractor needs a car style pump when a vacuum operated one will do the same job for many years for far less money?
joe ramirez oh thats why.
How did the board behind the tractor move to the left side as you were removing the fender?
Just a mistake in the editing good catch. It was not a paranormal event at least I don't think so.
good find, good fix, stupid Deere construction/assembly practice!
Was the new fuel line rated for submersion in the fuel. Big difference in the outer material and regular hose won't last too long in there.
Yes the fuel line I used was rated for submersion. That is why I had trouble finding it. I had to go to NAPA to get it.
This hose should be submersible fuel line not standard fuel line. Submersible fuel line is designed to go inside fuel tanks it's expensive but will not degrade...
Well, that was a darn good fix...
Thank You for watching and commenting!
6" Magnetic parts pan from Harbor Freight... (to hold those screws...) $3.99
Good job thanks for sharing !!!
Was your tempature gauge hitting hot when the tractor started stalling out?
No not on this problem. I did have a temperature problem when I got a small crack in the exhaust but I fixed that. Years ago. Thanks for watching.
My x300 has a vented gas cap on the fender. The mower would run for about 20 minutes then stop. The gas cap vent hole in the top of the cap was plugged with dust, etc. causing a vacuum to form as the gas tank emptied. I unplugged the vent hole and the mower keeps running for hours.
Thank you for sharing that information. That is what it is about helping each other. Stay Safe.
Good video and good of you to try to inform others on how to work on their own equipment. I am just wondering why it would only run for 30 mins with a broken fuel line as I would be inclined to think it wouldn't run hardly at all? I was thinking it might be a fuel pump overheating and shutting down from working hard getting fuel through a dirty filter sock.
You might be right, I cleaned everything as I went and replaced the fuel line. That is something to think about. What was really stopping the engine?
angus gillingham I’m thinking that was the vent line. So fuel pump was sending fuel to the carb, through the solid line, but no make up air was getting back on. After some time, you have a vacuum in the tank and the pump can’t pump any more. Like holding your finger on the end of a straw full of water. Won’t flow until you release your finger.
@@frankvucolo6249I have the same problem. Mine will immediately restart but then fails a few minutes later. Would a vacuum lock be the same problem?
@@neilscales good place to start would be to run it with the fuel cap off and see if it keeps running. If that’s not it, change or temporarily bypass the fuel filter. If that’s not it you could have blockage in the tank outlet or in a line. I suspect the fuel pump is OK if it starts and runs for 10 minutes or more. But you can check it by disconnecting the line and observing the flow while you crank it. Be safe working with fuel issues, please.
Change the second gas line not just the clamps while you have it apart .
nice fucking ring man. and thanks . not that great at working with engines more so the trades this helped a lot . appreciate you taking the time.
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definitely real hose clamp your cookin
Good job,what size wrench,and ratchet did you use to take the fender off?
what a dumb question?
@@michaelbartee884 Maybe I dont have a lot of tools asshole,and I want to make sure I have the right ones before beginning.Or does it give you the attention you are probably not getting at home from mommy,and daddy,so you go around making negative comments on youtube?
Having the same problem with my 304X, but it will keep running if I use the choke. I'm not a mechanic type but may attempt this.
Thanks for watching and commenting and as always Stay Safe.
i have gx85 that will start but not run. fuel lines appear to be fine. any ideas?
I had a John Deere LA 140 did the same. It end up being dirt in the carb. On that one you had to be very careful a lot of very small parts in the carb you drop one it was gone for ever.
Don’t know why I watched this video, I don’t have that problem, but I’m subscribing to your channel!👍🏻👌🏻
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My old 116 has started quitting w/o warning when it's running and hot after around 30 minutes. It draws out of the bottom of the tank. I have an electric pump that's functional. Got any ideas before I use dynamite? 😎 Thanx
The first thing I would check is the electrical system. I would start with the wire connections and then the coils. Look for a bad ground.
I have a JD D110 that does the same thing. I have had to 3 shops and no one has fixed. Are there two fuel pumps. One is up close to carb that has been replaced 2x. One in tank has not been touched. Thanks
I am not sure about a second fuel pump on that model. Are you running non ethanol gas if not try that. My John Deere don't run good on ethanol gas after a short time it will lose power.
I do run non ethanol gas. Your fuel pump was in tank but mine was close to carb. I probably have just a pick up tube and return line in tank. Haven't pulled it yet. Glad you got yours fixed.
@@jimbuford4147 that one only has palse pump . The vacuum make it work. (The line come from motor may be loose might have to tighten it ) ...the gas cap vent hole is plugged or u have a clod line or plugged fuel filter
I've got an X740 John Deere it's got 256 hours on it. I run it mowing and after 20 minutes it just stops dies as I'm mowing the grass. So I will check it out thank you great video
Let me know if that is the problem with your please. Thanks for watching and Stay Safe.
Good find! I thought you would have replaced the return line hose as you had extra. It is strange that it ran for 30 minutes. That loose hose is unlikely to have cause that but perhaps it did. Check Gas cap fuel vent or just loosen the cap at 30 minutes and see if you can hear an air rush or if it continues to run.
I just started checking everything. When it had spark and still would not start I though fuel. If that was not it and I accidentally fixed it I will take dumb luck. And the fuel line guess i was not thinking clear when I found the other.
Get a air hose to that cap; blow any crap out of it and use Carb Cleaner on it too; a vapor lock equivalent is what may happen.
Great info!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and commenting.
The yellow cap you found comes off of a Plastic Gas Can Spout. Someone dropped it in while Filling
Thanks that is what i thought it might be.
Have you ever had your parkin brake stop workin? Need help fixin mine, if you know, a video about it would help.
No so far my parking brake still works fine. If I repair it I will video it.
Excellent video my man.....you’re going to have to fix that weed eater sometime ; )
I have been training the horse to clean up around the buildings. But he's a slacker it's hard to get any help these days.