Victoria P was let off the hook way too easily... I'm still laughing about how she said she knew Alayah for 3 hours when she took a whole ass trip to Vegas with her LOL && the fact that she justified her actions as "IM WEIRD LIKE THAT" for spreading fake news about Kelsey and Alayah smh
While Peter and Madison were hugging Hannah Ann was about to cry. It was so sad. I think she knows Peter is in love with Madison (more than her) and it’s crushing her. Poor girl.
Oh god I feel for her. She’s trying so so hard to be the “cool girl” (like in the gone girl monologue) and she doesn’t deserve the hurt she’ll get if he picks Madison :((((
Babs Checkett yes I totally agree however Peter doesn’t realize they are not well matched at all! At least in my opinion. Madison is too religious and too sheltered
Why wasnt Victoria P called out for lying? Why wasn’t Victoria F not called out for being rude to Peter? Why wasn’t whats her name called out about lying about her being bullied as a kid? All these softball interview questions are frustrating
why wasn’t Kelly invited to the tell all?Why wasn’t Sydney called out for being horrible all season and then calling herself a role model at the end of tell all? 🤔 And the whole thing about cyber bullying at the end with no acknowledgement that the women were horrid to EACH OTHER all season?! This was a very unsatisfying tell all.
Victoria P was called out. She got called the fakest person in the house that wanted everyone against Alayah. It was likely talked a lot more, including the Vegas trip about than we were shown because the taping is longer than 2 hours. It is addressed in Rachel’s podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour. Alayah and Victoria P talk about their relationship and are on good terms with one another. Mutual respect. They moved on. Victoria F’s hot seat was fairly normal, and I wish they addressed her behavior at the hometown date. She did talk and was asked about how dysfunctional and difficult their relationship was. She apologized to him. He accepted it. He is moved on. Sydney did not lie about being bullied growing up. I’m quite literally sick of seeing that narrative be tossed around over some yearbook photos. She said she was in a pageant already, and it was not peer-voted. You can still be bullied and face racial abuse growing up & have a hard time in high school AND still be apart of clubs and have friends you know. All in all, a lot is edited out for the sake of time and there was a lot to get to. The girls are learning from their mistakes, harbor no ill intent towards one another. That last segment was eye-opening, and we should give these girls some room to grow and not exhibit this kind of behavior again.
1000% agreed. Very frustrating. Chris Harrison asks SYDNEY what her take is on Victoria P and Alayah? GEEE LET ME THINK, Sydney and Victoria P are OBVIOUSLY BESTIES, who do you think Chris?? and then acting like Victoria F has come such a long way because she was about to give a 2 second rehearsed answer to 2 very softball questions. EYE ROLL all the way.
Carr105 These shows are edited. They are only going to show small portions of an all day event. I mean they have some sort of an agenda because Kelly and Natasha weren’t invited.
I feel like Madison showing up late to the rose ceremony was produced and the producers just told her to show up at a different time to make it look like she was late
Used to watch this show with my gf but then when we split up I was already addicted so here I am a male looking forward to this segment every week because Lauren Zima is too freaking funny
Sebastian You might also enjoy the reaction vids by Daniel Miramontes (channel name PMO Productions) - definitely the guys’ perspective, and SOO funny!
Sydney : “yo you’re crazy Tammy yo you’re crazy yo you’re crazy yo you’re crazy” Sydney women tell all “I just want to be a role model for little girls”
I think people are a bit harsh about this “ultimatum”. It’s important to voice where she stands and be honest about her feelings if she feels she would have a hard time moving forward if he slept with other women. It’s in his court on what decision he wants to make and how he really feels about Madison.
Freefallinmusic I think the point is that she waited way too long to tell him information vital to making his decision. Information that would obviously color his choices from that point forward. She has every right and should let him know her boundaries. She just was really sh*tty to wait that long. It simply wasn’t fair.
I disagree, I don't think it's fully in his court. If he does pick Madison in the end, she needs to be able to move forward from this and not resent Peter for sleeping with Hannah Ann and Victoria. If she holds onto this, she'll only be hurting herself :(
nenamichelle we cant speculate what was going on in her head on why it took her so long but I do agree that it’s important to have those conversations earlier on.
Veronica M I think it was in his court once she told him what he would do with that information. I think if she wants to move forward with him it is important to move past him sleeping with other women even if it is difficult.
@@TheEmmiebear I actually think that her saying that she wasn't even in love her her long term boyfriend means she gets it. She was able to make the distinction between caring about him enough to stay with him and really feeling love. Peter seems to think that caring about someone a lot automatically means he's in love.
Well, more like LUST and LOVE. Peter has lust for a lot of these women, that’s probably what he had with Victoria F. Now I think he has deeper feelings for Madison not just LUST. Idk about Hannah Ann, I really don’t think she feels love for him at this point.
EXACTLY. he was throwing "IN LOVE" around like it means nothing. Love is for people you care about liek family, friends, etc.. IN LOVE is meant for the most DEEP connection with usually one person
The Married At First Sight couch is a proper hot seat and you don't get away with any shit. While they probably don't want to create an inquisition for the Women Tell All as in the end it's not super important, this felt super lackluster. Allegations of ruining 4 marriages deserves a bit more than 10 seconds.
I disagree about Victoria. I think she knows how to turn it on, as she has shown multiple times. RS said that most of the woman whose husband's cheated aren't going to go public, so Victoria got away with it. CH went way too easy on her - and Peter. Poor Kelsey. She probably thought she had a shot at bachelorette, but I am so glad she stood up for herself. Alayah really showed what a classy woman she was too, and those other girls are so clearly jealous of her and worked to bring her down.
Y’all are talking like you know her personally. A woman put a rumor around her with absolutely no hard evidence. An accusation on someone breaking up a marriage is a huge deal and there has to be way more grey area that we don’t know about then to just falsely assume it’s all her false, she’s a bad person. Plus she denied the accusation. The producers and the fans have no evidence to discuss any further.
Victoria looks like a fun person to be around because she was so carefree and light on day portions of dates, but got really in her head about things when it was time for a serious conversation. I think she is a confident person and owned that later on in the season. Not so good when it comes to articulating feelings or being able to hold a serious conversation. I think watching herself back, she learned a lot. We have to at least give her credit for being able to speak and say coherent words instead of “I don’t know.” Victoria is gorgeous, and I think there’s a reason she has friends and people like her so much- we just aren’t seeing that. As for those rumors, we know nothing about it nor do we have hard evidence. RS can say all the shit he wants, but that’s all it is. Words. Not evidence. I’ll hold off on making judgement about that because innocent until proven guilty. If there’s chatter in her hometown and the wives spoke to RS, why hasn’t any news come out yet? CH had nothing more to ask because she denied them. What was he supposed to do? I think with VF being so vibrant and working on her communication skills, by no means do I like how she acted but she’s heard enough hate, combating with actual constructive criticism, VF got a clear set up for Paradise.
@@sakura360ify Fair call, thanks for the comment. I guess, beyond the rumours, I am still very bothered by how she spoke to Alayah, really belittled Peter (had he spoken to her like she did to him, he would have been raked across the coals) and the WLM modelling, all of which she undeniably did and she didn't get asked about any of that. I do feel like she was very on and off all season, but I see what CH meant when he said he could see the woman Peter fell in love with when she was in the hot seat. She's absolutely beautiful, seems really fun (the credit scenes with her were better than so much of what they showed) and she will surely rock it on Paradise.
Ultimatum or healthy boundary? I wouldn't want a man who travels for living proposing to me days after he slept with someone else. I vote healthy boundary. Disappointed she didn't stick to it
"I don't know if I could move past it", not "I can't move past it". So maybe she thinks her feelings are strong enough that she can move past it. Or, and let's be super cynical here, more airtime and close ups probably lead to more social media attention.
Madi's eyes are puffy with dark circles. Like she has been crying or lost a lot of sleep. Or both. She must really have strong feelings for Peter to go through all this.
Or she knows that Peter isn't the one for her. If she's true to her word and conviction, that if he sleeps with any of the women that she can't except that nor should any woman. I agree with her, how could any man sleep with 2 other women back to back then propose marriage 6 days later? I lost a lot of respect for him and he was my favorite bachelor to date. You let a guy of the hook one time then they will know you'll except being treated poorly or without concern.
@@iLexy3 hm interesting about the pat. I don't care enough to check the footage again but might be so. But wanted to add that yes of course they can play both sounds and overlay that is basics easy in editing. Maybe they cranked up the sound on heartbeats?
Here’s how I see it. Madi is torn between her feelings for Peter and her beliefs. Peter asked her not to leave if she sees a future or he called it forever with him (which to me solidified that she’s the one he’s going to pick). I think she will eventually leave after their last date.
My prediction is that neither lady shows up at the final rose ceremony. Peter is left holding the ring, completely devastated and distraught. He tells his parents what happened, his Mom goes crazy, we all know what she says. He leaves, and somehow manages to capture Madison's heart again. Madison agrees to date him, no proposal. After six months, they go their separate ways. The end.
I agree.....thinking this last night, When Chris Harrison has something to tell Peter that they just found out is soooooo devastating to Peter--I think it's that BOTH women have self-eliminated. If he can't decide on which one he can't live without, personally, I would not want to be the one he is "maybe" choosing for a wife!
Nailed It. And Peter deserves all of that to happen. Love him, but his poor choices and inability to lead will culminate in him having no one at the end of this. Given this cast though, it’s for the best. The problems with this season began with the casting department. They did him wrong. Set him up for failure.
I think he wants to end up with Madison, but she is having a hard time forgiving him. I think possibly he proposes to her, and she doesn’t except, BUT says it will take some time to work through her feelings. I think the reason no one knows how it ends, even Peter, is because he is waiting for Madison to decide if she can forgive him enough to marry him. I think that is who Peter’s mom was referring to also. Just my guess.
Definitely. Hannah would have said yes to a proposal and Madison is definitely questioning things so I feel like its her and she's working through things with him.
@@itsmelexiv Also if Hannah had said yes to a proposal, why would she be so reckless to be spotted in public with another guy friend (they're not dating as speculation might suggest) but it's just kind of a dumb move. Her IG stories lately have been all over her clothes she's been wearing the entire season. Madison's IG not really that much at all-she's kind of been on radio silence (probably trying to ignore comments about Peter's decision in fantasy suites)
even if peter ends up with Madison, I don’t think they’ll last. they have different values and that’s ok but won’t work out long term. with this said, team Hannah b
Clare being the bachelorette makes my heart pump guava juice. I'm so stoked. Can not wait to watch her season and I really hope this time around she will finally find true love.
It wasnt a first for Chris to bring up cyber hate. He addressed it with Kaitlyn Bristowe when she was getting hate for sleeping with Nick. I don’t think Maddie gave an ultimatum. She did not say she “will” leave she simply said it would be “difficult” to stay. I think it is different.
Madi didn’t give an ultimatum. She stressed how she would feel and stressed that she wasn’t sure she could move forward. Never said she was leaving. She just stressed it could not would
@@erinmcgimsey1198 dont listen to bachelor Happy hour or Roses and rose. Rachel and Lauren were my 2favourites, now it s obvious they have some inside Info and are Not objektive at all
The language between Peter and Madi, is "LOVE CONQUERS ALL". She toasted to it after the Rose ceremony, and in the promo, Peter said he won't stop going after the woman he loves, b/c LOVE CONQUERS ALL. He won't quit trying! Madi is deeply in love with Peter, and that may be the reason she returned for the Rose ceremony, giving the relationship a chance. Love is a strange thing, for your feelings over power your own words, every time for LOVE SAKE.
PW was deeply in love with Hannah B how many months ago? He broke up with a girl 3 months before the show he had shared texts telling her he loved her. PW loves a lot women deeply cares for them. Sure.. But all those tears!!!!!
Madison is young. There’s more to love than saying the right things. Actions speak louder than words. It won’t work out with any of them. He can’t commit to one woman he loves the chase.
So I know the Bachelor franchise had good intentions with that whole anti-hate/anti-bullying thing, but it missed the mark for me. Perhaps if the show led by EXAMPLE and the cast hadn’t just spent the majority of the episode publicly insulting, shaming, humiliating, and emotionally dismantling one another on stage it would have seemed more sincere and healing. Instead, it came off as hypocritical and underlined the double standard that the contestants themselves just spent two months doing the very same thing to one another. 🤷♀️
Julesscv - I agree, but if you’re going to give an impassioned tear-filled plea about damaging racial fueled hate speech but look the other way with the “Bachelor Brand” of bullying, then it all comes off as phony and hypocritical. Just my opinion.
My guess for next week is that Peter sends Hannah home early- before the whole rose/proposal ceremony. Then, when he's planning to propose to Madi at the final ceremony, Chris tells him that Madi left. Mom starts sobbing and tells Peter to go after her.
I still don’t like Victoria F and Chris Harris did not get into asking her about the issues that came up. Like the white lives matter. She also outright lied about being home wrecker. I’m wondering that they gave her a good edit because they want her to be on BIP. Which honestly I don’t even want to see her there.
@@shannoncopeland4506 reality steve one of the biggest accounts when it comes to bachelor spoilers confirmed with 2-3 of the wives. And he did it around the time of recording so months ago
And bachelor fantake! Roses and eose, whit and ry, and bachelor fantake are my holy trifecta of bachelor recaps. Theyre all so uniquely entertaining I watch them one after the other 😂
Re: Clare's season--doesn't this just mean that the older men from her season and the WAY younger women from peter's season will all be together in paradise? I find that troubling! Not that this is something the producers HAVE to consider when making this decision but it does seem worth noting!
ss I didn’t say they’re “old,” I said “older,” which is reasonable considering if Clare’s men are around her age (38) and most of peter’s women were 23-26? Yeah I have some problems with that! And yes of course they’ll bring men from past seasons but the last couple seasons of paradise have been predominantly people from that year’s season of the bachelor and bachelorette We will see what happens but I don’t exactly have a lot of faith in the producers of this franchise to make responsible choices lmao
Obviously its not going to be all the ladies from Peter season with all the guys from Claire's season. There are contestants from past seasons that are going to be there too who will happen to be older than Peter's girls and Younger than Claire's guys.
@@olaide1521 2019, 58% of the contestants were from the newest seasons of the bachelor/ette; 2019, 63%. Safe to say the majority of the contestants will be from Peter's and Clare's season, unless they break from their previous patterns an age difference plot is DEFINITELY in the future with this season of b.i.p.
Victoria F actions with Peter was the most real person / life reaction throughout the show. Her thoughts and feelings was hers despite being on a show like that , where most of the women would have done and said whatever it took to stay on the show . Much respect Victoria F. 😘
I'm just frustrated the nothing really got resolved, addressed or talked about. Victoria P. wasn't questioned about her lying, no one let Kelsey explain herself fully, no let ALAYAH explain herself fully, Sydney wasn't addressed about the Alayah stuff or about her catty-ness, the MyKenna-Tammy stuff wasn't hashed out fully, just all around frustrating. The best part of the entire episode wasn't even the tell all stuff, it was the footage of the final three rose ceremony, Ashley I, and Rachel's segment. But I would honestly sit through 3+ hours if everything was addressed properly - it would be so therapeutic and satisfying but alas, it never happens.
Hold the f*** up, notice how Peters dad is wearing the same shirt in the "bring her home to us" moment? the one he was also wearing while asking Madi if she thinks they're compatible?!! :O
"Look out! SAD PETER!" XD XD XD Lauren is hands down my favorite part about the Bachelor series. She's infinitely more entertaining and likeable than the real show.
LOL, Lauren, I feel like you should get an Emmy for this episode. 😭😭😭. The Cross legged kicks to LOTR’s literally killed me. My body won’t even let me turn the TV on, on Mondays for fear of catching this season, but this Roses and Rose was damn hilarious #sadpeter
All I can say is that I’m glad none of these girls are the new bachelorette. None of them would be ready for it. The WTA was a hot mess. They start being all nasty to each other than at the end it’s like they forgot what had just happened lol done with this season. Team Madison.
I love you when you nerd out Lauren 😂. I love HP, Starwars and LOTR too so I see you girl! 😂😂😂 *LOTR and The Bachelor: the crossover I didn’t know I needed*
Marissa Kay right, always tryna call someone out to make herself feel better, let’s get real... alayah is the best looking on there, Sydney didnt have a damn thing to say until she saw she could get her ass wooped during the pillow fight.
I LOVE her. (Lauren Zima) Like for real she is so funny and has a way with words! My favorite thing about watching her segments is after she says something honestly funny she then leaves a compliment of the subject or the person! (very thoughtful) its so great. She's the best
Don't you wish someone else could have also hosted that bullying part with Rachel? It felt like they handed it off to the ONE black lead so that they would not have to do it, and possibly learn and make mistakes. Also, they really tip-toed around the word 'racist' or 'racism' like even in that segment they were still catering to their white audience that could be TRIGGERED by them alluding to the fact that some bachelor viewers could be racist!!
It is racism but I don’t think that’s the only thing going on. People on line are mean. I was actually glad they didn’t single in on racism. Because several have been bullied & that type of abuse should also be acknowledged
Neera Sinha-Frazer That’s fair. But to be real, a large majority of these hateful comments tend to come from a place of hate and racism. Especially when this show’s fan base demographically are primarily White people, it’s important to show representation and actually talk about racism. It’s important to educate people who may not understand what it’s like to be a minority and have an immediate target on your back due to your race and the way you look.
Thank you! Them not mentioning the word racism or racist really rubbed me the wrong way. Like hello it's not just hate, it's racism. This show needs to acknowledge the fact that they have a predominately White fan base and many of their viewers are high key racist, periodt! It may not be comfortable, but it's reality. Being general and not specifically naming the negative comments as racist dismisses the experience of the Black and POC contestants, assuages White guilt, and ultimately perpetuates White supremacy. Again not comfortable to admit, but the reality.
People can say what they want about Hannah Ann, but one thing for sure, and that is she has never gone back on her feelings. I love Madi, but she goes from being in love with him, to maybe being in love with him to not knowing how she feels. I get if she is just now confused because of her faith, but honestly at this point it, it's just confusing and getting to be too much. I like Madi, but I don't think she is right for Peter. Plus, I think people think she can do no wrong. I know he will pick her. It is so obvious, but I think it is going to be very bumpy roads ahead
I don’t really think Peter is truly in love with Madi. He thinks he is in love with her because the whole family liked her on her first date at his parents renewal of their marriage vows. Besides, Babra was crying, “ don’t let her go, bring her home to us, that’s what love stories are made of”. She must have been reading a lot of Mills & Boons Love stories in her young days. And so, to please his mother he goes to Madi and brings her back. So, does Peter really and truly love Madi ? Or is it because his family loves Madi and get along well with her? That’s the question.
What ultimatum though? 'You can do what you want, I don't want to stop you, it would just be difficult for me to get past you getting intimate with anybody else.' Is far from the Luke P. 'If you slept with anybody else I'm going home'.
The women tell all is to clarify what happened during the season , however sdyney's actions were not brought up nor questioned. Victoria P skated through the tell all without anyone calling her out on being a liar , and Victoria F i feel as though Chris Harrison didn't grill her enough. She was absolutely horrible , there was zero accountability from both the ladies and peter .
If Madison does not take Peter back, she would have my respect. Stick to who you "claim" you are and your words. Side note: Lauren's lip licking impersonation deserves 🏆.
Didn't she say "I don't know if I could move past it"? Maybe she thinks she can and thus isn't breaking her word, just being (overly) hopeful. But who knows what happens. Tbh, after how Peter behaved this season I think they are both too good for him.
Bara Robber Baron So true. Where there are romantic feelings it’s not so black and white. How many times have we outright thought we are done with someone, then later we are unsure? We are unnecessarily hard on Madi
Victoria P was let off the hook way too easily... I'm still laughing about how she said she knew Alayah for 3 hours when she took a whole ass trip to Vegas with her LOL && the fact that she justified her actions as "IM WEIRD LIKE THAT" for spreading fake news about Kelsey and Alayah smh
srpxoxo yeah she is so fake i cant stand her
The textbook definition of a toxic female.
Yes!!! No one addressed her lies!
Yeah I feel they threw half the shit she did said onto Tammy and just let her get dragged under the bus for other things she said about Kelsey lol
100% agreed
While Peter and Madison were hugging Hannah Ann was about to cry. It was so sad. I think she knows Peter is in love with Madison (more than her) and it’s crushing her. Poor girl.
Babs Checkett I was just about to comment the same thing. She knows exactly where she stands, & that’s second place behind Madison.. poor girl. 😕
I agree with u
Oh god I feel for her. She’s trying so so hard to be the “cool girl” (like in the gone girl monologue) and she doesn’t deserve the hurt she’ll get if he picks Madison :((((
I know 😭
Babs Checkett yes I totally agree however Peter doesn’t realize they are not well matched at all! At least in my opinion. Madison is too religious and too sheltered
Why wasnt Victoria P called out for lying?
Why wasn’t Victoria F not called out for being rude to Peter?
Why wasn’t whats her name called out about lying about her being bullied as a kid?
All these softball interview questions are frustrating
why wasn’t Kelly invited to the tell all?Why wasn’t Sydney called out for being horrible all season and then calling herself a role model at the end of tell all? 🤔 And the whole thing about cyber bullying at the end with no acknowledgement that the women were horrid to EACH OTHER all season?! This was a very unsatisfying tell all.
Probably because of the whole no bullying thing they had miss lindsay address at the end of the show.
Victoria P was called out. She got called the fakest person in the house that wanted everyone against Alayah. It was likely talked a lot more, including the Vegas trip about than we were shown because the taping is longer than 2 hours. It is addressed in Rachel’s podcast: Bachelor Happy Hour. Alayah and Victoria P talk about their relationship and are on good terms with one another. Mutual respect. They moved on.
Victoria F’s hot seat was fairly normal, and I wish they addressed her behavior at the hometown date. She did talk and was asked about how dysfunctional and difficult their relationship was. She apologized to him. He accepted it. He is moved on.
Sydney did not lie about being bullied growing up. I’m quite literally sick of seeing that narrative be tossed around over some yearbook photos. She said she was in a pageant already, and it was not peer-voted. You can still be bullied and face racial abuse growing up & have a hard time in high school AND still be apart of clubs and have friends you know.
All in all, a lot is edited out for the sake of time and there was a lot to get to. The girls are learning from their mistakes, harbor no ill intent towards one another. That last segment was eye-opening, and we should give these girls some room to grow and not exhibit this kind of behavior again.
1000% agreed. Very frustrating. Chris Harrison asks SYDNEY what her take is on Victoria P and Alayah? GEEE LET ME THINK, Sydney and Victoria P are OBVIOUSLY BESTIES, who do you think Chris?? and then acting like Victoria F has come such a long way because she was about to give a 2 second rehearsed answer to 2 very softball questions. EYE ROLL all the way.
Carr105 These shows are edited. They are only going to show small portions of an all day event. I mean they have some sort of an agenda because Kelly and Natasha weren’t invited.
I feel like Madison showing up late to the rose ceremony was produced and the producers just told her to show up at a different time to make it look like she was late
It surely was, they are Just Messing with us
Oh yeah
The producers this season are sadistic. From having the final 3 in one room to the fantasy suite date order...disgusting.
Except they dont just “show up” on their own. They are driven there so she probably just didnt realize she was late lol
She probably had no idea she’s late
Used to watch this show with my gf but then when we split up I was already addicted so here I am a male looking forward to this segment every week because Lauren Zima is too freaking funny
Sebastian awesome 😉
Aww
Someone give this man a rose... or some rosé!
Sebastian You might also enjoy the reaction vids by Daniel Miramontes (channel name PMO Productions) - definitely the guys’ perspective, and SOO funny!
This is the best comment I’ve seen on Roses and Rosé 🙌🏼
Sydney : “yo you’re crazy Tammy yo you’re crazy yo you’re crazy yo you’re crazy” Sydney women tell all “I just want to be a role model for little girls”
I laughed so hard at this
Sydney is a giant eye roll
heatherfits right? I’m a mom of a 4 year old little girl and trust me she ain’t watching this.
her and tammy are friends though 🤷🏽♀️
wow. watching yourself back, receiving criticism and wanting to be different and show growth is so crazy. wow
I think people are a bit harsh about this “ultimatum”. It’s important to voice where she stands and be honest about her feelings if she feels she would have a hard time moving forward if he slept with other women. It’s in his court on what decision he wants to make and how he really feels about Madison.
Freefallinmusic I think the point is that she waited way too long to tell him information vital to making his decision. Information that would obviously color his choices from that point forward. She has every right and should let him know her boundaries. She just was really sh*tty to wait that long. It simply wasn’t fair.
I disagree, I don't think it's fully in his court. If he does pick Madison in the end, she needs to be able to move forward from this and not resent Peter for sleeping with Hannah Ann and Victoria. If she holds onto this, she'll only be hurting herself :(
nenamichelle we cant speculate what was going on in her head on why it took her so long but I do agree that it’s important to have those conversations earlier on.
Totally agree!
Veronica M I think it was in his court once she told him what he would do with that information. I think if she wants to move forward with him it is important to move past him sleeping with other women even if it is difficult.
You’re way more entertaining than the show itself
True dat!
I don't even watch the show anymore but look forward to this 😀
WTA was so boring! I am glad none of the girls got to be the Bechelorette. Go Claire!
I love love Miss Zima...She is hilarious
@@amyscott9496 sameee
I think Peter had love for all three women but I don't think he was in love. I also don't think he knows the difference.
Hannah Ann has never been in love, so she doesn't know either.
@@TheEmmiebear I actually think that her saying that she wasn't even in love her her long term boyfriend means she gets it. She was able to make the distinction between caring about him enough to stay with him and really feeling love. Peter seems to think that caring about someone a lot automatically means he's in love.
Well, more like LUST and LOVE. Peter has lust for a lot of these women, that’s probably what he had with Victoria F. Now I think he has deeper feelings for Madison not just LUST. Idk about Hannah Ann, I really don’t think she feels love for him at this point.
he definitely is getting loving someone and being in love mixed up.
EXACTLY. he was throwing "IN LOVE" around like it means nothing. Love is for people you care about liek family, friends, etc.. IN LOVE is meant for the most DEEP connection with usually one person
I would have loved to see anyone in an actual hot seat, but it was lukewarm at best if we're being honest
Reagan Hoyt totally agree
My toilet is hotter than their hot seat
The Married At First Sight couch is a proper hot seat and you don't get away with any shit. While they probably don't want to create an inquisition for the Women Tell All as in the end it's not super important, this felt super lackluster. Allegations of ruining 4 marriages deserves a bit more than 10 seconds.
@Nikki B 1000000% agreed with EVERYTHING you said.
Well it was not lukewarm for Luke last season🔥
I disagree about Victoria. I think she knows how to turn it on, as she has shown multiple times. RS said that most of the woman whose husband's cheated aren't going to go public, so Victoria got away with it. CH went way too easy on her - and Peter.
Poor Kelsey. She probably thought she had a shot at bachelorette, but I am so glad she stood up for herself. Alayah really showed what a classy woman she was too, and those other girls are so clearly jealous of her and worked to bring her down.
AGREED
Rhiannon he moved on because he had to. what is there to address if it’s just a rumor and no hard evidence? he asked her a question and she denied it.
Y’all are talking like you know her personally. A woman put a rumor around her with absolutely no hard evidence. An accusation on someone breaking up a marriage is a huge deal and there has to be way more grey area that we don’t know about then to just falsely assume it’s all her false, she’s a bad person. Plus she denied the accusation. The producers and the fans have no evidence to discuss any further.
Victoria looks like a fun person to be around because she was so carefree and light on day portions of dates, but got really in her head about things when it was time for a serious conversation. I think she is a confident person and owned that later on in the season. Not so good when it comes to articulating feelings or being able to hold a serious conversation. I think watching herself back, she learned a lot. We have to at least give her credit for being able to speak and say coherent words instead of “I don’t know.” Victoria is gorgeous, and I think there’s a reason she has friends and people like her so much- we just aren’t seeing that. As for those rumors, we know nothing about it nor do we have hard evidence. RS can say all the shit he wants, but that’s all it is. Words. Not evidence. I’ll hold off on making judgement about that because innocent until proven guilty. If there’s chatter in her hometown and the wives spoke to RS, why hasn’t any news come out yet? CH had nothing more to ask because she denied them. What was he supposed to do? I think with VF being so vibrant and working on her communication skills, by no means do I like how she acted but she’s heard enough hate, combating with actual constructive criticism, VF got a clear set up for Paradise.
@@sakura360ify Fair call, thanks for the comment. I guess, beyond the rumours, I am still very bothered by how she spoke to Alayah, really belittled Peter (had he spoken to her like she did to him, he would have been raked across the coals) and the WLM modelling, all of which she undeniably did and she didn't get asked about any of that.
I do feel like she was very on and off all season, but I see what CH meant when he said he could see the woman Peter fell in love with when she was in the hot seat. She's absolutely beautiful, seems really fun (the credit scenes with her were better than so much of what they showed) and she will surely rock it on Paradise.
Ultimatum or healthy boundary? I wouldn't want a man who travels for living proposing to me days after he slept with someone else. I vote healthy boundary. Disappointed she didn't stick to it
"I don't know if I could move past it", not "I can't move past it". So maybe she thinks her feelings are strong enough that she can move past it. Or, and let's be super cynical here, more airtime and close ups probably lead to more social media attention.
I bet you she holds all the cards in the end.
I feel like Victoria F was so composed because she was relieved. She did not want to get married.
Madi's eyes are puffy with dark circles. Like she has been crying or lost a lot of sleep. Or both. She must really have strong feelings for Peter to go through all this.
Sheila Penn I noticed that too, first thing I said was she looks like she spent the night crying.
@@Julesscv And she probably did :/
Or she knows that Peter isn't the one for her. If she's true to her word and conviction, that if he sleeps with any of the women that she can't except that nor should any woman. I agree with her, how could any man sleep with 2 other women back to back then propose marriage 6 days later? I lost a lot of respect for him and he was my favorite bachelor to date. You let a guy of the hook one time then they will know you'll except being treated poorly or without concern.
@@iLexy3 you...you do know that the heart sounds were edited in, right?
@@iLexy3 hm interesting about the pat. I don't care enough to check the footage again but might be so. But wanted to add that yes of course they can play both sounds and overlay that is basics easy in editing. Maybe they cranked up the sound on heartbeats?
Here’s how I see it. Madi is torn between her feelings for Peter and her beliefs. Peter asked her not to leave if she sees a future or he called it forever with him (which to me solidified that she’s the one he’s going to pick). I think she will eventually leave after their last date.
My prediction is that neither lady shows up at the final rose ceremony. Peter is left holding the ring, completely devastated and distraught. He tells his parents what happened, his Mom goes crazy, we all know what she says. He leaves, and somehow manages to capture Madison's heart again. Madison agrees to date him, no proposal. After six months, they go their separate ways. The end.
Lol...well you've gone and spoiled it for us...but you're probably right😂😂😂
Interesting.... but I like it.
I agree.....thinking this last night, When Chris Harrison has something to tell Peter that they just found out is soooooo devastating to Peter--I think it's that BOTH women have self-eliminated. If he can't decide on which one he can't live without, personally, I would not want to be the one he is "maybe" choosing for a wife!
@@lisaclum5825 Nobody wants to end up like Becca Kufrin, getting picked and then switched. 'Oops, I think I made the wrong choice'
Nailed It. And Peter deserves all of that to happen. Love him, but his poor choices and inability to lead will culminate in him having no one at the end of this. Given this cast though, it’s for the best. The problems with this season began with the casting department. They did him wrong. Set him up for failure.
Lauren you MUST keep the “Judge and Jury” bit, it needs to be a regular thing!
Is Peter's scar growing? Peter must have a serious phobia about being dumped in the end, the way he wants everyone to say they love him.
Karen Tyson: the Harry Potter scar is growing like Pinocchio's nose - and we all know what that meant.
His scar really looks different sizes at different times.
@@bettyboop1524 it means evil is near. So should get better now that Victoria F. is home.
he’s in lust. he’s a freaking teenager.
Ashley Miller still lives at home....that tracks.
nenamichelle he is always traveling you idiot.
I think he wants to end up with Madison, but she is having a hard time forgiving him. I think possibly he proposes to her, and she doesn’t except, BUT says it will take some time to work through her feelings. I think the reason no one knows how it ends, even Peter, is because he is waiting for Madison to decide if she can forgive him enough to marry him. I think that is who Peter’s mom was referring to also. Just my guess.
Love forgives
Oooh yes I love this theory
Definitely. Hannah would have said yes to a proposal and Madison is definitely questioning things so I feel like its her and she's working through things with him.
@@itsmelexiv Also if Hannah had said yes to a proposal, why would she be so reckless to be spotted in public with another guy friend (they're not dating as speculation might suggest) but it's just kind of a dumb move. Her IG stories lately have been all over her clothes she's been wearing the entire season. Madison's IG not really that much at all-she's kind of been on radio silence (probably trying to ignore comments about Peter's decision in fantasy suites)
he prolly asks her to be in a committed relationship instead first.
even if peter ends up with Madison, I don’t think they’ll last. they have different values and that’s ok but won’t work out long term. with this said, team Hannah b
I am CRACKING UP at your tongue scene Lauren!!! HILARIOUS. Lauren for president 2020
The WTA was ridiculous this season. Too much arguing & cattiness. Poor Peter. How was he supposed to succeed this season with this batch of women?
The southern accent gets me every time! Saaaaad Petah!!!
I just finished Fellowship of the Ring the other day, so these LOTR references are killing me!
BooksAndJams Krista watches Roses and Rosé!! My night is made!😂 Love your channel!❤️
im a guy and i watch this series religiously, lauren is too funny
She is hysterically funny!
Yes
Damn funny...
Chris Harrison is a lucky dude
Lauren's Lord of the Rings references had me dying😂 I love her so much haha❤️
Kayla 529 ikr she was so funny with expressions today 😂😂😂😂
Clare being the bachelorette makes my heart pump guava juice. I'm so stoked. Can not wait to watch her season and I really hope this time around she will finally find true love.
It wasnt a first for Chris to bring up cyber hate. He addressed it with Kaitlyn Bristowe when she was getting hate for sleeping with Nick.
I don’t think Maddie gave an ultimatum. She did not say she “will” leave she simply said it would be “difficult” to stay. I think it is different.
“I know what WE’RE being for Halloween!” Lauren! It’s March!!! ... but please do it!
Barb needs her own Telenovela.
Madi didn’t give an ultimatum. She stressed how she would feel and stressed that she wasn’t sure she could move forward. Never said she was leaving. She just stressed it could not would
God, thank you
It was an implied threat. If an enemy said it, you'd take it as an ulrimatum.
IKR! i was seriously frustrated when they kept saying how disgusting it was for her to give him an ultimatum and i was thinking it’s really not.
Why go on a show that EVERY YEAR has a fantasy suite and then act like she has a right to say that? No. It's just manipulation.
@@erinmcgimsey1198 dont listen to bachelor Happy hour or Roses and rose. Rachel and Lauren were my 2favourites, now it s obvious they have some inside Info and are Not objektive at all
The language between Peter and Madi, is "LOVE CONQUERS ALL". She toasted to it after the Rose ceremony, and in the promo, Peter said he won't stop going after the woman he loves, b/c LOVE CONQUERS ALL. He won't quit trying! Madi is deeply in love with Peter, and that may be the reason she returned for the Rose ceremony, giving the relationship a chance. Love is a strange thing, for your feelings over power your own words, every time for LOVE SAKE.
PW was deeply in love with Hannah B how many months ago? He broke up with a girl 3 months before the show he had shared texts telling her he loved her. PW loves a lot women deeply cares for them. Sure.. But all those tears!!!!!
Madison is young. There’s more to love than saying the right things. Actions speak louder than words. It won’t work out with any of them. He can’t commit to one woman he loves the chase.
That sounds a lot one of those African magic healer ads. LOVE CONQUERS ALL when you buy this magic lotion for only 5$ from DR BAKAKU!
Lauren is seriously the best.
Love these recaps :)
She is the best and i never thought i would become such a huge Bachelor fan lol
The best!!!
Ughh I can’t wait to stop seeing Barb blubbering
Right?! She's way too involved in his love life. She should support him but not tell him to "bring her home."
Lmaooo
Blubbering barb hahahaha
This is some of Lauren’s best work, I must say!
I do nott watch the real show, but been waiting for Lauren to tell me what happened. Cheers !
Excellent time management on your part😁😆😂🤣
Sheikh Litu me too
Lauren makes this show worth watching
We MUST have this silly show continue--just so we can watch these recaps with Lauren!
So I know the Bachelor franchise had good intentions with that whole anti-hate/anti-bullying thing, but it missed the mark for me. Perhaps if the show led by EXAMPLE and the cast hadn’t just spent the majority of the episode publicly insulting, shaming, humiliating, and emotionally dismantling one another on stage it would have seemed more sincere and healing. Instead, it came off as hypocritical and underlined the double standard that the contestants themselves just spent two months doing the very same thing to one another. 🤷♀️
Exactly!!!!! 👏👏👏
IKR
I think they were saying they know they are going to be criticized but the hate speech as in “go kill yourself” or racist words is taking it too far.
Julesscv - I agree, but if you’re going to give an impassioned tear-filled plea about damaging racial fueled hate speech but look the other way with the “Bachelor Brand” of bullying, then it all comes off as phony and hypocritical. Just my opinion.
Alixandra Hice yes! totally agree
I don't watch the show. But I love this host explaining everything. Her sense of humor is refreshing.
Lauren you just became my favorite person ever 😂😂😂 "more lip licking" your impressions made me literally spit my food everywhere 🤣🤣
I’m not even watching the show at this point, but I am tuning in each week to just watch your recaps! 😆 So funny!
Dominique Burns same girl same
I am loving all of these LOTR references and clips ❤️
Lauren is The Wine Wizard: CONFIRMED
I think Peter let's Hannah Ann go before the rose ceremony bc he clearly wants Madison. But Madison leaves and he chases her.
Hannah Ann's mother reminds me of Peter's mother. Looks. Acting.
My guess for next week is that Peter sends Hannah home early- before the whole rose/proposal ceremony. Then, when he's planning to propose to Madi at the final ceremony, Chris tells him that Madi left. Mom starts sobbing and tells Peter to go after her.
Lauren just became my spirit animal with her Gollum impression
Remember the interview where Peter said “I do believe love conquers all?” .......He took that from Madison!!!
They all have a little piece of my heart??? The ONE will have your whole heart. None of these girls are your person. Enough said.
I still don’t like Victoria F and Chris Harris did not get into asking her about the issues that came up. Like the white lives matter. She also outright lied about being home wrecker. I’m wondering that they gave her a good edit because they want her to be on BIP. Which honestly I don’t even want to see her there.
I also think is because of BIP. She makes a lot of drama and if they give her a hard time with all the things she did, she will never accept BIP.
I'm curious about the home-wrecker thing. Do you have proof that she lied about being a home wrecker?
it’s prefilmed so if the white lives matter stuff came out later like while we are watching the show then they may have not known about it
@@shannoncopeland4506 reality steve one of the biggest accounts when it comes to bachelor spoilers confirmed with 2-3 of the wives. And he did it around the time of recording so months ago
100% totally over Victoria F .
WTA was a real snoozefest! Roses & Rose and Whit & Ry were much more entertaining! MUCH MORE!
Lets hear it for R&R and W&R! My favs too!!!
I love Whit&Ry!!!
And bachelor fantake! Roses and eose, whit and ry, and bachelor fantake are my holy trifecta of bachelor recaps. Theyre all so uniquely entertaining I watch them one after the other 😂
@@DCGuava , I'll have to check out Bachelor Fantake, too. Thank you!
Re: Clare's season--doesn't this just mean that the older men from her season and the WAY younger women from peter's season will all be together in paradise? I find that troubling!
Not that this is something the producers HAVE to consider when making this decision but it does seem worth noting!
There are plenty of people from the past that they don’t need clares men and her men aren’t going to be “old “
ss I didn’t say they’re “old,” I said “older,” which is reasonable considering if Clare’s men are around her age (38) and most of peter’s women were 23-26? Yeah I have some problems with that!
And yes of course they’ll bring men from past seasons but the last couple seasons of paradise have been predominantly people from that year’s season of the bachelor and bachelorette
We will see what happens but I don’t exactly have a lot of faith in the producers of this franchise to make responsible choices lmao
Obviously its not going to be all the ladies from Peter season with all the guys from Claire's season. There are contestants from past seasons that are going to be there too who will happen to be older than Peter's girls and Younger than Claire's guys.
@@olaide1521 2019, 58% of the contestants were from the newest seasons of the bachelor/ette; 2019, 63%. Safe to say the majority of the contestants will be from Peter's and Clare's season, unless they break from their previous patterns
an age difference plot is DEFINITELY in the future with this season of b.i.p.
Oh well 😂 they’re all adults
I would love for him to switch it up and chase after Hannah B
I love Lauren Zima!!! She puts out a positive vibe always
No one can convince me otherwise that Makaenna wasn't doing the tongue flicking stunt for the camera so she could trend.
Every week I think that was the best roses and rosé ever, and every new week Lauren excels.
For the last time ITS NOT AN ULTIMATUM ITS STANDARDS!!!!!
The way she says “sad Peter” had me laughing out loud! 😂😂😂
Despite these women's behaviors, 90% of them are stunningly 10/10 beautiful.
Victoria F actions with Peter was the most real person / life reaction throughout the show. Her thoughts and feelings was hers despite being on a show like that , where most of the women would have done and said whatever it took to stay on the show . Much respect Victoria F. 😘
Great Job Lauren Zima! Peter: If u in Love with 2 or more Women...you are not in Love. Cased closed.
I'm just frustrated the nothing really got resolved, addressed or talked about. Victoria P. wasn't questioned about her lying, no one let Kelsey explain herself fully, no let ALAYAH explain herself fully, Sydney wasn't addressed about the Alayah stuff or about her catty-ness, the MyKenna-Tammy stuff wasn't hashed out fully, just all around frustrating. The best part of the entire episode wasn't even the tell all stuff, it was the footage of the final three rose ceremony, Ashley I, and Rachel's segment. But I would honestly sit through 3+ hours if everything was addressed properly - it would be so therapeutic and satisfying but alas, it never happens.
I think these young ladies are so shallow there wasn't anything deeper to bother with it. They were all there for screen time.
@@dinville7094 I agree mostly but for some reason I still hope it'll change and it never does 🤦♀️
I LMAO when I saw Peter’s parents making out in the back seat of car! Chris: “The car is shaking” Peter: “I am going to get an Uber”...hilarious!!🤣
Well, the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree😘
I hope it was real and not produced.....lol
@@keepmyfreedoms2602 Most likely produced, I think.
Hold the f*** up, notice how Peters dad is wearing the same shirt in the "bring her home to us" moment? the one he was also wearing while asking Madi if she thinks they're compatible?!! :O
"Medicate...safely." Another pearl of wisdom from Lauren Zima
I’m loving all the Lord of The Rings and Harry Potter references in this episode!
Lauren Zima always bringing the funny on my Tuesday night! 😂
You outdid yourself this episode! I was laughing out loud 😂😂
"THE PRECIOUSSSSS" lol I'm dead 😂
How could Chris Harrison RESIST??! 🤣🤣🤣😍😍😍👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
"Look out! SAD PETER!" XD XD XD
Lauren is hands down my favorite part about the Bachelor series. She's infinitely more entertaining and likeable than the real show.
"It's about owning. It's about atoning. It's about growing." -Lauren Zima
I think this is the first time Victoria F. made complete sense. That's a girl I like seeing on this show
LOL, Lauren, I feel like you should get an Emmy for this episode. 😭😭😭. The Cross legged kicks to LOTR’s literally killed me. My body won’t even let me turn the TV on, on Mondays for fear of catching this season, but this Roses and Rose was damn hilarious #sadpeter
All I can say is that I’m glad none of these girls are the new bachelorette. None of them would be ready for it. The WTA was a hot mess. They start being all nasty to each other than at the end it’s like they forgot what had just happened lol done with this season. Team Madison.
I nearly fell off my chair when Peter said, "Are you sure?" Far as I know, that's a bachelor first.
I love you when you nerd out Lauren 😂. I love HP, Starwars and LOTR too so I see you girl! 😂😂😂 *LOTR and The Bachelor: the crossover I didn’t know I needed*
Lauren Zima's energy is EVERYTHING, I just love her narration😂😂😂
Sydney should have been called out for all the pictures from her HS yearbook of her being like prom queen...not isolated from “where she came from”
Marissa Kay right, always tryna call someone out to make herself feel better, let’s get real... alayah is the best looking on there, Sydney didnt have a damn thing to say until she saw she could get her ass wooped during the pillow fight.
I LOVE her. (Lauren Zima) Like for real she is so funny and has a way with words! My favorite thing about watching her segments is after she says something honestly funny she then leaves a compliment of the subject or the person! (very thoughtful) its so great. She's the best
Don't you wish someone else could have also hosted that bullying part with Rachel? It felt like they handed it off to the ONE black lead so that they would not have to do it, and possibly learn and make mistakes. Also, they really tip-toed around the word 'racist' or 'racism' like even in that segment they were still catering to their white audience that could be TRIGGERED by them alluding to the fact that some bachelor viewers could be racist!!
K Parker OH SHIT TELL IT LIKE IT ISS!!!!
Yep. It's racism flat out.
It is racism but I don’t think that’s the only thing going on. People on line are mean. I was actually glad they didn’t single in on racism. Because several have been bullied & that type of abuse should also be acknowledged
Neera Sinha-Frazer That’s fair. But to be real, a large majority of these hateful comments tend to come from a place of hate and racism. Especially when this show’s fan base demographically are primarily White people, it’s important to show representation and actually talk about racism. It’s important to educate people who may not understand what it’s like to be a minority and have an immediate target on your back due to your race and the way you look.
Thank you! Them not mentioning the word racism or racist really rubbed me the wrong way. Like hello it's not just hate, it's racism. This show needs to acknowledge the fact that they have a predominately White fan base and many of their viewers are high key racist, periodt! It may not be comfortable, but it's reality. Being general and not specifically naming the negative comments as racist dismisses the experience of the Black and POC contestants, assuages White guilt, and ultimately perpetuates White supremacy. Again not comfortable to admit, but the reality.
The sudden turns are the best part. Never stop! We love you LZ♥️
In Lauren’s voice, “Don’t drink for every time Lauren says ok! Ook!” 😂😂💜
this show is the gift that keeps on giving and i’m NOT talking about the bachelor
People can say what they want about Hannah Ann, but one thing for sure, and that is she has never gone back on her feelings. I love Madi, but she goes from being in love with him, to maybe being in love with him to not knowing how she feels. I get if she is just now confused because of her faith, but honestly at this point it, it's just confusing and getting to be too much. I like Madi, but I don't think she is right for Peter. Plus, I think people think she can do no wrong. I know he will pick her. It is so obvious, but I think it is going to be very bumpy roads ahead
I don’t really think Peter is truly in love with Madi. He thinks he is in love with her because the whole family liked her on her first date at his parents renewal of their marriage vows. Besides, Babra was crying, “ don’t let her go, bring her home to us, that’s what love stories are made of”. She must have been reading a lot of Mills & Boons Love stories in her young days. And so, to please his mother he goes to Madi and brings her back. So, does Peter really and truly love Madi ? Or is it because his family loves Madi and get along well with her? That’s the question.
Lauren - your recap of the rose ceremony had me in stitches!!!! You are the best!!!
"Actions speak louder than words," said Madison. Her action in staying on the show spoke louder than her ultimatum.
She probably came on the show hoping the bachelor would be Tyler C...then she stuck around to grow social media presence. So genuine and real!
Paul he literally asked her to stay if she sees a future with him. I think she needed more time and goes home before the final rose.
Well said Paul!
What ultimatum though? 'You can do what you want, I don't want to stop you, it would just be difficult for me to get past you getting intimate with anybody else.' Is far from the Luke P. 'If you slept with anybody else I'm going home'.
But she never said I will leave if you do this.
SAD PETUH!! & all the LOTR references made this my favorite. *You're* the gift that keeps on giving, Lauren! 🌹
I think Peter should also go on DWTS because of how much he loves to Dance.
I immediately had to pause and give a thumbs up at Lauren's byeeeee! I need a gif of that to play when I need a laugh.
I am dying right now with the lord of the rings commentary. I can’t handle this. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I just love all your "Sudden Turn" moments! They're the best!🤣🤣🤣
'Sad Peter' always looks like he hasn't slept in days!
The women tell all is to clarify what happened during the season , however sdyney's actions were not brought up nor questioned. Victoria P skated through the tell all without anyone calling her out on being a liar , and Victoria F i feel as though Chris Harrison didn't grill her enough. She was absolutely horrible , there was zero accountability from both the ladies and peter .
Madison accepting that rose is how I respond when work asks if I want to cover a shift tomorrow and I don't but also need the money.
Loving all the theatrics in this episode! Roses and Rose for the Oscar! Lol! “I want to know what love is” love that song! Lol!
“The remaining, disintegrating rose”. 😅😂
7:20 MadiiIisoon, ahhhahhha. You were spot on. Peter is funny
If Madison does not take Peter back, she would have my respect. Stick to who you "claim" you are and your words. Side note: Lauren's lip licking impersonation deserves 🏆.
Didn't she say "I don't know if I could move past it"? Maybe she thinks she can and thus isn't breaking her word, just being (overly) hopeful. But who knows what happens. Tbh, after how Peter behaved this season I think they are both too good for him.
Bara Robber Baron So true. Where there are romantic feelings it’s not so black and white. How many times have we outright thought we are done with someone, then later we are unsure? We are unnecessarily hard on Madi
I just love watching your recap of the bachelor!!! Makes me laugh everytime!! Thank you 🤩🤩🤩