Easy Goer - 1989 Belmont Stakes
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- Easy Goer had been favored to beat his West coast rival in the first two legs of the Triple Crown, but for the Belmont Stakes it was Sunday Silence who was the odds-on choice after narrow victories in the Kentucky Derby and Preakness. But Easy Goer turned the tables in the Belmont, barreling home a resounding eight-length winner in 2:26, the fastest running since Secretariat.
Final time: 2:26
Owner: Ogden Phipps
Trainer: Claude R. McGaughey III
Jockey: Pat Day
In Charles Justice' 2008 book "Greatest Horse of All", he studied and researched the greatest horses of all time by age categories. Easy Goer was ranked the #2 all time best 3 yr old behind only Secretariat, and ahead of other great 3 yr olds Seattle Slew, Spectacular Bid, Affirmed, etc.
Where can I find that book?
Secretariat was a freak of nature which I believe was due to a heart much larger than normal horses and thus was able to pump more blood quickly through his body bringing more oxygen in than his rivals; if you could call them that, and I believe he's the only horse to ever run consecutive fractions throughout the entire race faster than the previous fractions making him on par with a machine!!!! The record feat of Secretariat's Belmont Stakes record will never be broken, but the fact that he was not good at stud proves my point and I feel that as a "normal" is concerned my #1 is The Goer"
Easy Goer - speed, power, stamina. A devastating turn of foot. Extraordinary acceleration.
Easy Goer-Since the Genesis of the Breed he ran The Fastest Mile Ever Run by Any 3YO in 1:32 2/5,the 2nd Fastest Test of the Champion Belmont Stakes Ever Run Behind Secretariat! And the Only Horse Ever to Win that Historic Quintuple Crown of the Belmont Stakes-G1,Whitney-G1,Travers-G1,Woodward-G1 & Jockey Club Gold Cup-G1!
Easy Goer, the club footed comet champion with bad ankles, a crooked left leg and club feet. A red blur. Easy Goer's best performances could match and rival any horse who ever lived.
Easy Goer and the "Club Footed Comet" were two completely different horses, idk if you are just giving him that same nickname or not, but just an fyi xD
Easy Goer-Incredible Accelerations and Extraordinary Monster Moves!
Easy Goer indeed did run so many of these colossal, colossal performances in his career, and at all distances of ground. A phenom indeed.
Easy Goer had all his superior talent on display...Blowing by on the "far turn"...Races like this is why so many people felt Easy Goer was not only better than Sunday Silence but also 1 of the best horses in history...Easy Goer showcased his brilliance most of his career and at various distances...Easy Goers natural talent overshadowed his slight losses to Sunday Silence..
@horselover Do you mean Day or Easy Goer, or both?
@horselover Same here.
Easy Goer was probably even better than Secretariat when at his best..Easy Goer on his best day..which was most days..is the most purely talented horse to ever run..Easy Goer was just a DOMINANT horse
I suggest that you watch the 1973 Belmont Stakes which featured Secretariat who broke the Belmont Stakes track record by TWO SECONDS.
@@pwnycny Yea and Easy Goer Has The #1 Ragozin Sheet Number in Belmont Stakes History Ahead of Secretariat
"Grace blended with extraordinary speed, power and stamina is as fine an imitation of Secretariat as we can recall." William Leggett- Thoroughbred Times/Record
My friend I cannot say enough about the great Easy Goer. Have you ever asked yourself if Easy Goer ran the fractions that Secretariat did what would his time be. Great stamina, for sure Easy Goer had it in spades but Secretairat was in a zone all by himself in his Belmont win.He set 3 world records and tied one in his run.One of his world records was being pulled up a entire furlong, One not from the chute & the one he tied was not from the chute. Hail to Easy Goer. ONE hell of a HOSS as well.
I believe Easy Goer had the most raw talent and raw ability of any horse since Secretariat, Slew and Bid. Easy Goer ran many mammoth, gigantic, beastly performances at every distance he ran.
Great horse was Easy Goer, with great strength and stamina.
Just a dominating performance here.
Easy Goer was my favorite horse. His mom was my favorite before he displaced her. I really believe that bad rides from Pat Day cost EG the Preakness, the Breeders Cup Classic and possibly the Derby too. This ride was the one exception. How Day didn't keep him closer with an earlier move in the BC Classic is beyond comprehension after it worked so well here. Day always rode him with overconfidence. I wonder if he had a more aggressive as opposed to a patient jockey what could have been for EG. Still a Hall Of Fame all time great.
Absolutely my sentiment too, Days rides in the earlier races with him breaking The Goer too late were indeed frustrating and for all involved it will always be a case of what might have been! I still think Sunday Silence should have been disqualified in the Preakness for interference in the stretch but we know who the superior horse ultimately was!!!!
If only Angel Cordero had been aboard! Loved that horse. I was there for the Belmont.
@@JamiePowers-wf6rw You're right. Angel would have been a great fit and had the aggression needed for this rivalry. Day was way too passive IMO.
God bless Marshall Cassidy; gone too soon.
WE have had full 24/7 all day all nite every day discussions about every possible topic on this subject for the last year. Don't start denying that Steve from California.
Easy Goer, one of the rare Hall of Fame champion all time great's who combined blistering,record speed at a mile and at shorter distances(record three year old mile of all time in 1:32.2,among the top fastest Champagnes of all time at 8f,two-fifths off the 6.5f tr.record as a 2 yr old,fastest 7f of the yr in Florida),with a thoroughly supreme and brilliant and stamina(second fastest Belmont of all time,among the fastest runnings of the Whitney at 9f,Travers at 10f and Suburban at 10f).
Never forget that it means as much or as little as all the scoreboards always reading (and never forgetting) Noor 4, Citation 1; Beau Purple 3, Kelso 1; Cabrini Green 4, John Henry 0; Darby Creek Road 3, John Henry 0; Gallant Bloom 4, Shuvee 1; Akureyri 3, Pleasant Colony 1; Big Spruce 2, Forego 1; Damascus 2, Dr Fager 2; Formal Gold 4, Skip Away 2; Billy Kelly 8, Sir Barton 4; Star of Cozzene 3, Kotashaan 1; and an endless amount more. In the Test of the Champion drug-free Belmont Stakes Easy Goer killed s.s; like heart-filled drug-free wheat separating from heart-less drugged chaff, the heart-filled drug-free cream rose to the top. Never forget. Easy Goer ran drug-free in the only state in the entire country at the time which banned all drugs, which banned all performance enhancing drugs; while the drug-reliant and corrupt crooked criminal crook juicer doper veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant s.s. got exposed badly and romped when he was forced to run drug-less with no-drugs at all. Never forget. The great drug-free Hall of Fame champion Easy Goer showed the world how to obliterate the drug-reliant sunday silence. The litmus test of a champion is running and winning drug-less without any performance enhancing drugs; and during that era New York was the only state in the entire country that banned all drugs. Plus, as importantly, New York didn't allow the magic man corrupt crooked criminal crook juicer doper veterinarian of s.s. Alex Harthill [arrested an endless amount of times for illegally doping/juicing an endless amount of horses] to perform his magic and juice the drug-reliant and magic man corrupt crooked criminal crook juicer doper veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant s.s. During that era, it was a huge credit to NY [and the rest of the whole world] that the endless amount of their championship G1 races stood as humongous, gigantic obstacles to drug-dependent horses like s.s.; and these horses, like s.s. and many others, got exposed badly when they were forced to run drug-less with no-drugs at all. Never forget. ONLY no-drugs drug-less races were/are true championship races. Only the drug-less no-drugs races could/can be called championship races. No-drug races kept/keep the outcomes crystal clear. No-drug races are the only true tests of champions. Never forget. That is integrity, honesty, fair play and complete fairness for all. The drug-free Hall of Fame Champion Easy Goer was the better horse than the drug-reliant and corrupt crooked criminal crook juicer doper veterinarian Alex Harthill-reliant s.s. In the drug-free EG's few very slim losses by the narrowest of margins to the drug-reliant s.s., s.s. needed all of his performance enhancing drugs administered to him and still only beat him by the slimmest of margins. Plus, The drug-free Easy Goer won G1 races at 7f, 1 mile, 9f, 10f and 12f drug-free with much less time and rest between races and running many more races at more fluctuating, different distances in faster times with far superior speed figures and performance ratings; while the drug-reliant s.s. only won G1 races at 9f to 10f with his ped drugs and much more time and rest between races and running far less races. And most importantly, Alex Harthill confessed to illegally giving illicit, illegal performance enhancing drugs to s.s. I quote the DRF for the factual truths: "Harthill, toward the end of his life, was BOLD ENOUGH to tell Jay Hovdey of the Daily Racing Form how he illegally gave numerous horses (including Clenbuterol to SS) illegal drugs. Sunday Silence's veterinarian Alex Harthill ADMITTED illegally breaking the laws in enhancing his horses performances. In DRF articles in recent years & in the last few years of his life, SSilence's vet Alex Harthill ADMITTED to illegally using the immensely effective performance enhancing bronchodilator clenbuterol regularly in the 1980's 15 years before it was approved by the FDA on his horses, INCLUDING using it on sunday silence. SS's vet Alex Harthill introduced the incredibly effective performance enhancing bronchodilator Clenbuterol in the 1980's & illegally administered it to Sunday Silence, who benefited immeasurably by its immensely effective performance enhancing effects. The drug Clenbuterol performed miracles for horses who made inexplicable improvements with major enhancements in performance. The drug Clenbuterol has a similar effect on the body as epinephrine & amphetamines by increasing the production of epinephrine & noradrenaline & thus significantly enhancing performance; clenbuterol also thins blood & widens the vessels that carry oxygen, so the volume of oxygen in the blood increases & thus significantly increases energy & thus significantly enhances performance; plus clenbuterol dramatically reduces body fat by causing rapid fat burning. The drug Clenbuterol performed miracles for horses who made inexplicable improvements with major enhancements in performance.
Some of Harthill's other favorite magic making performance enhancing drugs were Etorphine (infinitely more powerful than the aspirin-like bute), Banamine (5 times more powerful than the aspirin-like bute) and Sublimaze. The drugs Etorphine and Sublimaze are drugs that give horses such a sense of euphoria and well-being that they feel like they don’t have legs. Sunday Silence's vet Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration filed suit against Alex Harthill on 102 charges of possessing & using unusual quantities of controlled drugs, such as the powerful performance enhancing bronchodilator Clenbuterol, powerful steroids, loop diuretics, extremely powerful painkillers & very strong amphetamines, etc. Alex Harthill & raceday performance enhancing drugs have led to the destruction of integrity in North American racing. Harthill was at the vanguard of giving drugs to horses that were used to vastly enhance their performances, & they were remarkably effective turning good horses into great horses, bad horses into good horses, slower horses into faster horses, horses with no business winning doing so, & causing horses to run far over their heads. Harthill was a vet who had stolen a 30 length lead in the race to discover drugs that would significantly move up racehorses, & Harthill had no hesitancy in using whatever was available. Harthill was a magic man vet practicing the dark arts of racehorse manipulation. Harthill was arrested many times (Kentucky, Illinois, Louisiana, NY,etc) for tampering, bribery & doping horses with drugs. The drugs were & are so potent that their use or nonuse dramatically alters horse's performances (including SS). Sunday Silence's vet Alex Harthill did more cheating with drugs to win horse races than any vet in history." Besides Harthill admitting it to the DRF, there is the CERTAINTY of MOUNDS of more evidence regarding Harthill's illegalities. Never forget indeed.
EG Only Had 13 Days Rest Heading into The Triple Crown...Ran Tough Hard Race in Muddy Derby...2 Weeks Later Ran His Eyeballs Out While Pinned on Rail Entire Stretch of Preakness...2 Weeks Later at "12f" Wins by "8" Lengths in "2:26" Flat...EG Was Better Than SS
Still remember some who briefly questioned the Distance limitations of Easy Goer...He Quickly put an End to that in this race...Was 2-0 at 12 Furlongs and "Crushed" Both Fields...
Easy Goer ran all these historic races among the Top 1 to 5 fastest all time runnings: Belmont Stakes, Gotham, Whitney, Champagne, Travers, Suburban, including the fastest 3 yr old mile of all time in 1:32:2, second fastest Belmont Stakes of all time, and also ran right on the track record at 6.5f at 2 yrs old, and the fastest 7f of the year in Florida. A freak indeed.
Slew & Easy Goer at their best it would be Easy Goer. Slew ran his best races & times as a 4 yr. old. Easy Goer at his best would have beaten Spectacular Bid at his best at any distance. Your right. Easdy Goer had the better raw talent in my opinion & the data proves it at his best. The raw talent is what Justice examined and it was there for Easy Goer no mistake about it. The Bid & Slew no doubt were great horses & will no take nothing away from them. I believe Affirmed was right there as well
Easy Goer Had "Legit" Excuses During Couple of Narrow Losses at the wire to Sunday Silence and he was Just Unlucky with the Circumstances...This race was the Perfect Example of Easy Goer not just being the "Better" Horse but the "Superior" Horse...This Race was OVER before they hit the 1 1/4 Mark...Easy Goer was the MUCH more Naturally talented Horse between the 2...ANYONE who watched the Classic and Knows the Circumstances Know that Easy Goer was "Much the Best" during that Neck Loss...And it also took what McCarron called the "Best ride of my Career" to Hold on by a Neck at the wire over Easy Goer in the Classic
Shug said this in regards to the Classic after Day straightened him out at the start: "When Pat Day "GRABBED" him after the start, the horse didn't understand what Day was doing, then Day was "CONTENT" to sit and wait behind SS, that's why he fell 12 lengths back and almost 7 lengths behind SS."
"Easy Goer met and fulfilled those dreams and expectations embodied in his powerful frame, and authored an unforgettable Hall of Fame championship career, and will always be mentioned in the same breath with the GREATEST of ALL TIME." And this is in spite of the awful riding that got cost him by a nostril and desperate neck in two outs vs. S.S.
Well Sunday Silence was a great horse and I wouldn't take anything away from him but Easy Goer was really something special.
EASY GOER WON SO MANY PRESTIGIOUS RACES WE NEED TO ADD A SECOND PAGE WITH THE HISTORIC CHAMPAGNE AND EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT THE WHITNEY. NOT TO MENTION THE SUBURBAN.
Easy Goer was the better horse. He had more endurance than Sunday Silence. If these two horses had been taken out to the countryside and raced, it would not have been close.
You are correct in your statement. He wins no problem in the Preakness if he keeps off the rail.
sl7293 appears to have become another target for the EG Woulda Shoulda Coulda 24/7 Traveling roadshow! Wow!!!
If you look at the verb definition of pinned it is the same as trapped, "confined, constrained, trapped". And all these words were used by Pat Day and Shug McGaughey in their own words, not just my own.
Sit close to Leaders and Pounce...This is type of Proper trip to give Easy Goer...The Classic he Broke in 6th Position 6 lengths behind Sunday Silence...Made move on Backstretch to make up all that ground and get close...And Pat day had him 5 Lengths off lead in Mid stretch and had to make up MORE Ground...Classic was a Brutal Trip/Ride...This Horse Should be sitting right behind the leaders during his Races and explode when asked...Pat Day had this Horse all over the place during most Races while also making Multiple Moves during the Races...Come on
Your answer is in the Ron Indrisano article,June 8,89 quoting Shug:"Day moved very early through that record split b/c if he hadn't he would have got hung real wide." Sounds like Shug was ok with that record move huh? Shug:" After he made that record move if he would have gone on with it the race would have been over with.Day decided to let SS back in the race which caused him to get trapped pinned on the rail. & I don't like that he turned his head.Horses run Much More Strongly with head str8."
And YOU ENCOURAGED me to call you Stevelk AFTER I, and others, revealed these sequences of letters.
One of favorite all time races!! I knew Pat Day couldn't screw up the mile and a half race with Easy Goer and he; The Goer, made it look easy, no pun intended!!! I was trackside that evening and it was one of the most exhilarating experiences I've ever witnessed, horse racing or not!!! What might have been for this phenomenal horse hadn't it been for being basically knocked into the rail by Sunday Silence in the Preakness (Should have been disqualified) and Pat Days riding in both the Preakness and the Kentucky Derby were suspect especially with the Goer being a true closer and breaking him too late, not to take away from Sunday Silences success, however I felt that horse was one dimensional and The Goer was the superior horse and I cashed my tickets on him that day I had every last cent I owned on him that's how confident I was he'd succeed in his endeavor of knocking the triple crown contender off, regardless of Pat Days previous mishandling!!! Never forget the Goer!!! Thanks Shug!!!!
Yep...12F Gave Pat Day Room to be a Bonehead and Still Overcome it...THIS is The Trip He Was Supposed to Have in The Classic But Pat Day Broke Awkwardly and EG Still Put Day in Position a Length Behind SS and Pat Day Let SS Scoot Clear Heading For Far Turn as Pat Day Sat Still on EG and Never Encouraged Him Until They Hit Mid Stretch...What a Spoiled Ride...Pat Day Never Had Respect For SS
@EasyGoer-e3z I have respect for SS even though I felt he was one dimensional he was still superior to the rest of the competition and the Goer obviously suffered greatly from the poor tutelage of Day's riding and properly breaking and encouraging him too late in the Derby,Preakness and the ultimate poor ride in the Breeders Cup which at a mile and a quarter was ideally setup for the a Goer to win even with Sunday Silence's performance which was indeed a good one showing staying power in the end after stalking and overcoming the speed, but Day blew the day again, running out of ground with an ever closing monster he kept from glory once again and I find that sad for the Goer's connections, especially Shug who must've been heartbroken with so much lost opportunity❗️🐎🐎🙏🏼 Pissed about them tearing up Belmont I've been going to for so many years and ludicrous no Belmont Stakes on Long Island, takes away from the game, but I guess it's progress and have to attract new fanbase with new updated grandstand and track surfaces. Secretariat's "machine" record Belmont would never be broken anyway with that freak of nature running each consecutive fraction faster than the previous one, which is only accomplished by a machine, thus that moniker and "freak of nature" ‼️ Happy Racing❗️❗️❗️🐎🐎🙏🏼
@@echauncey12 Agreed....Been Watching Racing For MANY Years and The 1989 Gotham Performance Was The Most Visually Impressive Race i Ever Witnessed as Far as Sheer Natural Talent....EG Made The Gotham Like Poetry in Motion...His Gallop out During That Mile Was Like 1:45 For 1 1/8th...Incredible Performance...EASILY Would Have Broken World Record if Pat Day Even Nudged EG...His Natural Talent Was IMMENSE
Yeah you're right the one turn Gotham hard to screw up, fast fractions and basically a hand ride, should have encouraged him a bit more but competition was slim, expected more from Cantrell Road but eased up. That's racing, but I believe I'd said idiot rode the Goer to full potential, he would have been undefeated, still my favorite of all time after all these years later, I started watching and playing the ponies when I was around 19 and 61 now, but haven't had time to invest since retirement, busier now then when I was working, two bouts of cancer and life gets in the way, good chatting with you😉🙏🏼🐎🐎
@@echauncey12 If You Ever Need a Reminder of How Awful and Spoiled Pat Day Was Aboard EG go Watch The Replay of The 89 Woodward Stakes...Every Other Race EG Was Given a VERY Weird Trip
Both horses were superb and marvelous. In my view and judgment, Easy Goer was great to a greater extent. Of course this is an intuitive feeling and impression.
Because YOU ENCOURAGED me to call you Stevelk. You didn't just say it was ok to call you Stevelk, you went out of your way to say you encourage me to call you Stevelk. I never called you Stevelk for the past few years, I called you Steve from California.
Hmm, I took a good amount of time last night, I thought I removed them all. 5 days ago? I will have to check now.
I would agree. Pat Day's start and stop, stop and start,stop and start riding cost Easy Goer two wins vs. a great SS. SS was great also, the only horse who could take advantage of Day's start and stop riding, by a nostril and desperate neck in the Preakness and Classic.
Marshall Cassidy loved Easy Goer, and the horse gave him plenty of time to set up his victory call as he wished. (RIP Marshall. I loved how he called races.)
Exactly, the Easy Goer 9.5f race and DF 8f race is no comparison, and has nothing to do with the "price of tea in china" line. And absolutely not, Shug said in his quote he was okay with the record move b/c Day was being taken out to the barn area, but Shug said he should have just went on with it & the race would have been over when he opened up & his next mistake was getting pinned,trapped,brushed in tight on the rail & cocking his head with the lead forcing EG to run inefficiently.
That proves the point. I, or anybody else can call you Steve, Stevelkd, Stevelk, because these names are all part of one of your youtube accounts. Very simple. And also you encouraged me to call you Stevelk, when I preferred to just call you Steve. Steve is just part of your youtube name, Stevelkd.
No not at all, Easy Goer got passed by almost a length at the top of the stretch, then re gained the lead by about a half length in the stretch. Day didn't say he got tired until about 100 yards from the wire in late stretch which was fully expected b/c of the record spilts and record pace. EG was unable to pull away earlier in the stretch b/c he was trapped,pinned in tight on the rail as Day states clearly.
Two great champions. Something wrong with Sunday Silence though in that race. 1989 was the year of champions.
He really is. I warned you about him. Steve from California and I,as well as many others had had full 24/7 all day all nite everyday discussions about these subjects and topics, and now he wants to deny it. And now he says that Day completed a move??? Hilarious. I warned you my man
That's like me stating that the definition of steadied in the dictionary means "unfaltering,direct,unwavering" and comparing it to racing terminology. "Trapped" in the dictionary also means "a confining or undesirable position from which is escape is very difficult." That would be close to what is meant. The definition of "In tight" means "being in a place or spot of constriction and cramped" which would be close to what is meant. & "banged" means "to strike and bump repeatedly."
Ok fair enough. Agree. I think we can conclude this discussion. I believe I have removed all the comments you requested. If not, let me know if there are any more?
Marshall's greatest call. The drmatic phrasing of the second "sunday silence remains in second' One wonders how Easy Goer would have been had the trainer not been a lush.
Wow!!! Great Horse,
I was wrong about Slew's 19:3 after a fast pace? Bold Forbes got beat 4 lengths so he ran over 20 after a fast pace. I was wrong about Tank's Prospect,Chief's Crown,Gate Dancer, Louis Q,Bid final 1.5f off fast paces????? I never mentioned Affirmed b/c it was a very slow pace.
I was wrong about Slew's 19 3/5? Bold Forbes got beat by 4 lengths! I was wrong about Tank's P,Chief's Crown,Gate Dancer,Louis Q, Bid's final times? I NEVER mentioned Affirmed b/c it was off a slow pace. I was indeed wrong about DF and Dam. off of slower paces coming home, but not the others.
Stevelkd is one of your usernames. Whatever you say about if you do or don't use it anymore is irrelevant because you encouraged me to call you Stevelk, when I preferred just Steve. You not only said Stevelk was fine to call you, but YOU ENCOURAGED it. You wouldn't have encouraged it very very recently if not.
I can't find it, what was the rest of the comment I was talking about?
Ok, I believe I only joked around with adding the vowels on this video here, so I will go through them on this video. I don't believe I joked around on any other videos?
Back to the point, Easy Goer's record move in a 9.5f race has nothing to do with DF's in an 8f race. Neither does EG running a lot of races faster than DF, neither does the fact that when DF ran blistering fast in 10f races vs. Damascus, he lost by 10 lengths and over 2 lengths. Pat Day's "total pilot error" in the Preakness was not for not sustaining moves, it was for many,many other mistakes as his trainer Shug cited and stated in the Ron Indrisano article.
YOU ENCOURAGED me to call you STEVELK. You said it right in your comment on this video!! There is the proof. Proof that YOU ENCOURAGED me to call you STEVELK!
I said my opinion would be that Day's many mistakes cost the better horse to be beaten very narrowly by a whisker and desperate neck in these two races. That would be my opinion whether Day said "it was absolutely rider error and I got the better horse beat", "I gave him a breather when ss went around the far turn","I didn't ride one of my good races" "put out the fire of a champ in full flame", "Day GRABBED him and EG didn't understand,then Day was content to sit" and corroborated it or not.
sl7293 and steveldk, how did those names somehow reveal all this info to me and others? Tell me please.
I have to work today. I simply don't have the time to go through many many videos over the last few years where I called you Steve from California. Those comments go so far back and are on many different videos going back years and there were others who have been calling you by your first name and state over these years also. It may be darn near impossible, plus over the last few years you never told anyone you had any problems with it. To ask people to go far back isn't feasible to me.
How in the heck does "completing a move" mean sustaining record splits? Read Ron Indrisano's article quoting Shug McGaughey to find your answer.
If EG gets beat a nose not going on with it, how far does EG win by if he opens up 4 lengths instead of being given a breather running with Houston on the turn? Even taking into consideration that every horse will eventually get tired in late stretch having run record splits into a record mile pace that EG ran. Let's assume EG would have gotten tired in late stretch either way,if he opens up 4 & does not get trapped,pinned on rail, he wins no matter getting tired. That I believe is Shug's logic
Funny how Steve from N. California studies his DRF Champions book pp's and yet he doesn't look at the pp's or video to see how many lengths a horse is off the pace. Actually, I have been over these final times of many horses with Steve from N.California many many times over the past year. Once again, he has been over this subject and topic,as well as every other for the last year many many times.
That is not a translation at all. Read Dave Joseph's article Nov. 5, 1989 Sun Sentinel. Day clearly states in his own quote, "When SS went around the far turn I GAVE HIM a BREATHER." Day says it himself, there is no translation.
You wouldn't have encouraged me to call you Stevelk very very recently if that was the case at all.
That other person started printing sequences of your last name before I did.
Pat Day rode??? Pat Day? Day was the one who positioned EG 1 length behind SS in all 3 Triple Crown races. Yes thats right Steve Like from California. EG was positioned by Day 1 length or so behind SS in the Preakness,Belmont. He broke much worse from the gate in the Preakness and was still 1 length behind SS. He broke good in the BC, His drifting in towards the gap at the start of the BC only cost him a few lengths at most:The rest was Day grabbing a hold,content to sit & wait as Shug stated.
You are correct. West coast biased Steveldk would have been more appropriate, and absolutely would not have been against any policy. But the point was a first name and a state that a person lives doesn't reveal anything. There are countless persons with a first name in every state. But as I said, west coast biased Steveldk would have been okay.
Since there is such a big difference, I'll call you Stevelk, not Steveldk. You indeed did encourage me to call you Stevelk, not Steveldk.
No I called you Steve from California. I never called you Stevelk until you very recently encouraged me to call you Stevelk.
Easy Goer ran the fastest 2 and 3 year old races since Secretariat. Easy Goer was injured after only a few starts at the age of 4. It is not his fault that he was injured after a few starts at 4 & it was not his fault he did not run in an age forced to carry large imposts.It is not his fault that he was clearly a far superior horse than your Dr Fager, or Kelso or Forego at the age of 2 and 3. EG still conceded 12 to 19 lbs. running wire to wire running another near tr. record in the 10f Suburban
So what is one of your usernames, Stevelkd or Steveldk?
I forgot to tell you also. Steve from N.California has put false words into my comments numerous times before. There is a word or saying why people do that.
Dude he was right, you really do enjoy infinite discussions with no end. I'll end it like this for you. Go ask what the jockey Day and trainer McGaughey meant by their racing terminology when they used all these words themselves: "trapped,pinned,in tight,pushed,banged,brushed, going on with it & the race would have been over, turning head sideways, horses run much stronger and faster with their heads straight." Please they all have facebook, go ask them what they meant.
A trainer knows his horse as much as anyone could.Take the trainer's "gone on with it" quote however you like.Why would a trainer say that the race would have been over if he would have gone on with it?Why would the trainer state that he let SS back in the race?Why would the trainer state that he was trapped,pinned in tight on the rail?Why would the trainer state that he should not have turned his head with the lead in late stretch?Why would the trainer say that horses run stronger w/heads str8?
You're right. West coast biased Steveldk would have been much more appropriate.
Actually speaking of this video here. You said I could alter my past comments. It is not giving me the option to alter my comments. It is only giving me the option to remove the entire comment completely. Did you say I can go back and alter past comments?
Your answer is in the last comment quoting Shug's words from the Ron Indrisano article, June 8,1989. And you were wrong about what Shug felt. Next time, know what Shug said, and know the difference between "sustaining record splits" as you say, and "going on with it" as Shug said. "Completing a move" is A LOT closer to meaning "going on with it" as Shug said, than you putting words into my mouth about "sustaining record splits."
Never used CTRL + F. I will try that.
I know, you did warn me. Dude from Cali. Take Shug's quote of "gone on with it" whatever way your heart desiresm whatever way you want. But Day did not complete a move as you falsely state Why would Shug say he was ok with that record, early move b/c he would have been hung real wide.But his biggest mistakes were "not going on with it" after it & letting SS back in the race and getting trapped,pinned on rail & saying that he should not have turned his head as horses run much stronger w/head str8
Please tell me how, from your usernames or Steveldk and sl7293, I got all your info? Please tell me
Actually it's not really Pat Day bashing. Pat Day calls his own riding "complete rider error and I got the better racehorse beat." Also Pat Day indeed says he gave the horse breathers in both the Preakness and Classic. Day says all this himself.
Nerud said he was good, not great at 3 years old. Take that anyway you want to Stevelk. Nerud also said he was "not good that day" in his Champagne loss. Nerud is frickin excuse maker like ALL OF US. How could you respect and like Nerud if he was just another excuse maker?
Ok you encouraged me to call you Stevelk, instead of Steveldk. Stevelk is so much different than Steveldk anyways. How could I have made that mistake. Stevelk.
Steveldk is/was one of your usernames. If you admitted that Steve and L & K were , why would it be a wild guess not to think D was also? Your username is/was STEVELDK.
Well I have my answer. You wouldn't be asking me if it wasn't guessed correctly. If I said you were Frank from Biloxi,Mississippi I don't think you would or would have cared less. But then again, you had no problem for the last few years having quite a few people call you Steve from California. As I said, I cannot go back through a few years of comments on many videos.
You yourself announcing that Steve is your first name, and L & K are letters of your last name is against youtube policy.
That comment I meant to say though lk ,as in Stevelk, are still letters in your last name.
You already accepted Stevelk because that is one of your usernames. I gave that consonant as an example. But Steve is not acceptable without the l _ k at the end because that is one of your usernames?
I gave that consonant as an example. But Stevelk is acceptable because that is one of your usernames, but not just Steve without the l _ k?
No, YOU ENCOURAGED me to call you STEVELK. You encouraged me to call you Stevelk. Stevelkd is one of your usernames, whether you say you don't still use it or not, you did, and you know that's why quite a few people called you Steve, which is a part of one of your youtube names.
Stevelk is one of your youtube usernames. Maybe you had some numbers with Stevelk, or another combination of Stevelk with something, but it's Stevelk.
Here is what YOU said, "I have done nothing but encourage you to call me Stevelk." Mistake? Joke? Wild mistake?
Why would the trainer of a horse state that if Day would have gone on with it the race would have been over? Why would the trainer of a horse state that Day let SS back in the race? Why would the trainer state that he got trapped and pinned on the rail?Why would the trainer state that he should not have turned his head with the lead in late stretch?Why would a trainer state that horses run much stronger& faster with their heads straight?Does the trainer have any knowledge of his horse or horses?
Wrong again. Pat Day was criticized and his "total rider error" inthe Preakness was for firing EG through a record split & then not completing the move & then having the better,faster horse pinned,trapped,bumped and brushed into the inside rail & cocking his head with the lead in deep stretch &having EG run inefficiently this way. There was a lot more there than one thing.
Now you are stating that one of your usernames is Stevelk, but with a consonant in the middle? Whatever? Stevelk is one of your usernames but with a consonant in the middle. Steveldk or whatever is acceptable because that is one of your youtube usernames.
Yes but it is NOT a violation of RUclips policy to refer to someone by one of their youtube usernames, which in your case is Steveldk. As far as calling you Steve from California, you had no problems at all with me or other people calling you that for years now. I am not going through comments of the past years where I called you Steve from California, and you had no problem with it anyways.
No, re read what I wrote. YOU REVEALED that Steve is a close facsimile to your real first name. You revealed that L & K and the letters I added were close facsimiles to your real last name. You said it yourself, "in this case, this happens to be close facsimiles to my real names."
Perhaps Sunday Silence was the better horse but I always preferred Easy Goer.
What? Easy Goer ran some of the fastest, if not the fastest, races run by a 2 year old and 3 year old since Secretariat! That is not a slow maturing horse. As far as his slightly slow starts, they didn't matter at all. Only that Day decided to do nothing after the slightly slow start and let him settle 12 lengths back in the Classic.
This is your quote, "You don't think I am angry that one of MY(meaning YOUR) usernames is Stevelk? You are well aware that I never complained to you or anyone else being called Stevelk. You also know that the only thing I ever did in regards to this subject was to ENCOURAGE you to call me STEVELK." Those are your own words Stevelk. That is proof.
That's fine, whatever. But why have multiple youtube accounts for yourself at all?