СВS cut out the most important part of the conversation because they lie to him and want to hide it from the public..On RUclips there is a video in which 2 judges from the audience, who were present during this conversation, told about what was really happened. They were furious about how СВS treated Dimash. When Dimash signed a contract, his condition for signing a contract was that he would not compete with children. He was told that there would be no children. After that, they forbade competitors to see each other.During the competition, Dimash accidentally saw in the hallway whom he competing with.And it was 2 small children. In thе part of the world where Dimash and I come from, competition between adults and children is considered injustice, not equal, and low. Adults always compete separately from children. Children are always allowed to go forward. They simply deceived him. СВS cut out part where Dimash publicly reminded the bald РS that what was a condition for signing the contract.To take the price from children is a humiliation not only for him but for his whole country. People will no longer respect him and he would be ashamed to return home and look people in the eye. They also changed the order of what was. Dimash sang the last song after they were disrespectful to him. My great respect for Dimash.
Dimash sings with such passion he has the judges and audience crying. I saw a video where even Simon Cowell got emotional by Dimash’s voice so keep on doing you’re doing Dimash!
I'm 58 years old, I was punk when I was young and I love Dimash. I love jazz, rock, classical music. I think people who work with music should like good music of any musical style 😉
Agree.... am almost half a century old.......... i listen to multiple genres from classical to death metal to Mongolian folksongs .... good music is good music... borderless & limitless
helena matias so true .. and i'm 25 and i listen to clint mansel, system of a down, eminem etc .. good music is good music and if you can't see it you have a reductive mindset .. it means that you were only exposed to one type of music
this is one of the things that i don't get, i don't listen to Justin Bieber personally, but I can recognize his talents. why limit yourself? I would love to hear Dimash in his more normal range, his voice is really top notch, but he isn't singing for me, he is singing to a larger audience. the pianist that won was doing the same thing, he was playing to please the crowd, I called him Little Liberace. He knows his audience isn't a bunch of pianists, they like the dramatics.
Pavarotti is the type of opera singer who will touch people who hates Opera. He is on another level from Dimash. Do not compare them. Pavarotti sings with so much soul. Dimash sings with no heart.
that producer is only holding personal views.doesnt seem to give some appreciation on some branches of music legacy.for me he is not that professional to accept other aspects in terms of music internal colors. he is only playing on his own game.
Dimash is not just a good singer but an artist who can paint a song,not just with his vocals but with his passions and his emotions so much so you can visualize the picture -his vocal artwork
Love this video, Ken! Very interesting and agree with your comments. I get very frustrated with comments in shows which are based on judge's genre preference as opposed to judging of the technical capability as well as the artistry. Thank you
The court of public opinion knows that Dimash is the world's best. And he won our respect by quitting the talent competition in respect of his culture which do not allow adults to compete against children.
Great arguments, Ken! This story "just because you can, doesn't mean you always should" started long ago in Kazakhstan, where local judges were bullying Dimash every time he showed his full vocal power. Those numerous "why did you use this technique?", "this range is not necessary for the song", "you demonstrate yourself, not the song", bla bla bla. This forced him to leave to China where public and judges were more listening and thinking prior to talking readymade. I strongly believe that in Dimash's case "JUST BECAUSE HE CAN - HE SHOULD ALWAYS"! J
Dimash does it because he can do it, no one else. Moreover it's important just to say to young beginning singers - please work on your technic and do your business as better as it possible. Paricularly if you are at the world stage - saying: Hi, i'm Dimash and i can do it, please follow me, try do it better. Everybody has to understand - how much work behind! All these makes Dimash exlusive singer only one the world heard ever Nevertheless, please forget this vision of this limited range guy an who cann't be honest. Dimash is thw world's best!
Not exactly true, Dimash won the Kazakh song contest Zhas Kanat and then went to Brlarus to win at the Slavyanski Bazaar. Only then we went to China . The Kazakh judges did once turned him down yes , those were early days though. Those judges were incompetent.
Ken you are just AWESOME!!! You are so clever, honest, knowledgable and talented! No wonder you understand Dimash like no other. you are AMAZING!!!! Thank you for your videos! I really enjoy watching them!
This is really really interesting! The same thing happened to Dimash with a judge in another competition (in Kazakhstan or Russia, not sure which language they spoke). She said just because you can doesn't mean you should, and that sometimes less is more. He politely and respectfully thanked the judge and seemd to take it on board. However he knows that it comes down to personal opinion in the end. He always wants to please all of his audience but there are some people who don't like what he does and he is OK with that. He has self confidence in his abilities, and he measures his performance against his own internal gauge. He has so much experience in competition and performing on stage that he know what he needs to do to impress the people who matter. If there are some he doesn't impress he simply accepts it, smiles, says thank you and lets it go. I think that there are fans who leap to his defence too quickly. He doesn't need defending. From those who don't like his style the 'critcism' is like water off a ducks back. He knows what is important, who is important to him and why, and it is those people he listens to very carefully. He is a humble and respectful guy who lets everyone be who they are without trying to change them.
LOL. That is true! I didn't think of connecting that... Some people sing to express themselves, even with their bad vocals, and some sing just because they love to... but for me, Dimash likes to experiment with his vocal chords... May be his habit... It's not about showing off...
The problem of this competition they are not in the same genre. They are all. Superb in their own kind of genre. All performers are excellent. So I think the competition will be based on their appeal, their charisma or charm. To judges and to the audience. I think they can measure their ability if its the same genre. But people like music more than other talents showcase. And also depends on how iconic or famous thing they are doing. So i guess the charm and appeal of performers that will catch the heart of the judges and audience.will be the winner. But ill go with TNT BOYS they are talented plus had charm.Go TNT boys!!! ♥️
In my opinion there is a contradiction in this TV program, if this is a musical talent program, with the purpose of selecting the best singers, then the musical taste of the jury shouldn't be taken into consideration, but the abilities of the participants (singers) If you take your personal taste into the program and select only the singers who sing the musical genre that you like, you are not being impartial and professional, everyone has the right to not like something but this is about a program of vocal, musical skills, not of personal taste to jurors.
I had a friend who received his degree in music theory and cello. One of the best things he ever told me was that it was okay to not like a genre of music or art style; but that should not stop me from recognizing when it is done well, or giving credit for the talent involved. I.E. I really do not like rap. But I don't dismiss the talent or abilities it takes to perform in that genre.
Thank u for sharing your reaction. I do not concur with the judge’s opinion re Dimash. I discovered Dimash several months ago on a Chinese talent show & he literally blew me away with his beautiful voice & selection of songs. I don’t even speak Mandarin, but when I heard him sing Autumn Strong- I got so emotional that I sat there and cried. Not one artist has affected me that way. I will continue to be an avid fan of Dimash and my wish is to see him live in concert.
Для тех, кто не понял о чем речь. Судья проголосовавший против Димаша, настаивает на своем праве на личное мнение, на personal вкусы и предпочтения. Но тогда он не имеет право участвовать в судействе музыкантов в тех областях, которые ему не нравятся. Пусть судит только rock music , а на другие конкурсы не лезет. Правильно?
валентина я совершенно согласна с вами тут судьи должны оценивать не с позиции "нравится ЕМУ лично или нет" а высказывать объективную точку зрения специалист.
Все дело в том, что само шоу непродуманное, непонятное в том плане, что смешны все возраста от детей до пожилых, все несовместимые жанры от вокала, циркачей до танцев и ещё много чего. Поэтому судьи запутались вконец.
I completely agree with you. On the other hand, I think it's showbusiness.......maybe this judge had to play 'bad cop'. You can like Dimash or not but you cannot deny his talent.
Your comment about Mariah, while humurous, is bang on and says it all. That's what really set her apart. She was so unique, with that massive vocal range of hers. I remember being a teenager when she first exploded onto the scene. I clearly remember my friends and I being in awe. We LOVED to listen together to her low notes and high notes. We thought she was so cool! And so did millions and millions around the world. There are several successful singers out there who also have or have had wide vocal ranges. I've been to a few concerts where singers have experimented with low and high notes, and the crowd went wild. With Dimash, I close my eyes and listen to Daybreak from Bastau, or Love of Tired Swans, and imagine there are at least 3 to 5 different singers on the stage. Not only does he have the biggest range, but he also sings a variety of styles within one song... which you've explained for us. Pop, tenor, soprano, baritone, Asian and Kazakh folk, rap..... you name it, he's done it. I know that we (in English speaking countries at least) are now in the era of an auto-tuned and image based commercial music industry, but maybe, just maybe Dimash will start a revolution in music? I don't want to get too excited yet, but that's what I wish for. And there are sooo many good singers out there. We need to hear real voices. We need to hear different styles of singing. The art of singing needs an urgent comeback!
It is weird for those of us who have been following Dimash for a long time to see others discovering him. Dimash is in his own lane. A “pop-opera” genre. His body of work is amazing. And I have found I connect to his performances more when I don’t understand the language he is singing in. Late Autumn is one of my favorites as is Sinful Passion and SOS. The Chinese “got it” hopefully there are enough judges who will embrace the artistry, passion and talent Dimash brings.
Dimash is possibly the best vocalist of all time. The combination of raw talent, vocal control, breath control, annunciation and diction, plus a myriad of other vocal skills coupled with his showmanship and story telling within a song makes him a flawless performer! I can understand why some judges just don’t get it. I also think some are just jealous of his perfect performances!
I had lately seen the movie "Bohemian Rhapsody" and when I saw the comment of that judge in TWB I was thinking to myself that he is the same kind of "expert" as the producer, that didn't like Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. He just could not understand that people might want something different than the mainstream, that there are a great number of people that do not know anything about music, but when they hear the song, it moved their hearts and souls. I am a metal fan for many years, and I never liked slow songs or love songs, they were boring to me. But since I saw Dimash, I really can't stop listening to his or Terry Lin's songs. I really opend my mind on that kind of music. Unfortunately, any other artist I listen to now (even the one's I loved), sounds to me now ... just average. [sorry for my english, it's not my native language].
Justyna Bezia well the judge asking the question why dislikes rock, because she dislikes Liliac so she should not ask why in the first place, she’s in the same boat.
Great point. "Bohemian Rhapsody" as a song is "all over the place", sounds like a mashup of different genre different styles of singing, but it's a masterpiece. What does this English judge say about that? I wonder
Английский не очень понимаю. А русскоязычным очень интересно узнать, что вы говорите. Но суть поняла. Еще и из коментов - там проще понять. Так вот, в Российском шоу та же проблема : после первых выступлений Димаша боссы заявили, что ЭТО слишком сложно, что народ любит попроще музыку и якобы такой тупой, что ничего не поймет. Эти высокомерные люди как всегда ошиблись. Первое же выступление Димаша на центральном TV вызвало массовый восторг.
Да, фабрика поющих трусов в негодовании, они чувствуют что их бизнес в опасности, Димаш такой один, а их поп проекты на его фоне выглядят жалко. Надо запретить, обгадить,,, Как приятно что Кен шарит очень хорошо и разоблачает подобные нападки. Он решил быть на светлой стороне.
I immediately said the same thing: Dimash is there to impress and needs to "beat them over the heads" with it. Also, why is being "commercial" considered being such a great thing? To me that usually means the same thing over and over again and it bores me. I do listen to contemporary stuff but also music from the 50ies, 60ies and so on. I want to taste ALL the flavours and see ALL the colors of the rainbow. Which is what I find so refreshing with Dimash. Also, just need to adress that obsession about speaking English. I know it's a big thing for the native English-speaking nations, but not so much for the rest of us... 😉 There is this song Late Autumn that Dimash sings that is absolutely heartbreakingly emotionally beautiful. First time I heard it I didn't know what it was about but I cried.... I could feel it! The song is in Mandarin and I didn't understand a word, I had never heard the song before but it absolutely hit me hard. 😭 Later I have watched the performance again with background story of the song and with English translation of the lyrics. Very emotional indeed but that first time for me when I just FELT the song left me absolutely heartbroken. 💔 And THAT is what music is all about for me; listening with the heart and not with the brain.
My dear Ken .. No excuses. I am coming from a very underground music background and when i heard Dimash i was speechless not only with his range but as a whole. He made Lara Fabian on same song with same band in same place sound average. No excuses. When something is out of this world it needs to be recognized despite out preferences. Period
What Dimash has done is create a new genre which he calls neo classical. He combines opera, pop, jass, h-metal and even rap, trying to bring back art to music. His music vibrates within you. Your heartbeat and brain waves change and if you’re tuned to his wave you hear only one voice not many different ones. No different than the techniques of “super learning”. He will be the major influence in making us love music again. Get ready for him.
One reactor (Stan from The B and S show) said in their first reaction that Dimash's singing could be used to treat diseases. It was a joke, but like we say in Russia: "Every joke is partly joke". Your words about tuning are music to my ears. Thank you.
I love John Bonham too! I like that you are very professional and unbiased Ken! To the judge I can just say that it wasn’t a good decision to vote against him. I’m a rock and metal guy as well, but I think Dimash deserves to be praised.
That guy has brittish arrogance , i realy dont care but upset about ... if dimash sing from stand up shout-steel dragon i want to see his face. Btw im a death metal guy and a death metal musician... and still can impress with dimash...
He said he has a punk background. Maybe that's why he thinks know how to sing is subjective, punk vocalist most of the times are bad singers. And I saw a lot of record producers saying this days that be a good vocalist it's like the fourth or fifth thing they consider important in artists that explain a lot of shit that make sucess the late years.
Понятно что человек который любит тяжелую рок музыку, то он не очень близок к поп-опере. На таком шоу не должно быть субъективных мнений. Получается если ему не нравиться то он не проголосовал, а то что у него талант, техника вокала, супер артистизм, харизма, внутренняя и внешняя красота и еще много чего в нем - все это невсчет.Не понимаю таких людей. А вам Кен спасибо
90% моего плейлиста состоят из Death и Black метала, но я очень уважаю и оперу и мюзиклы и некоторые произведения популярной музыки... Для меня тоже кажутся странными мотивы этого судьи.
Бред полный. Я например предпочитаю альтернативный рок. И я фанат Димаша, потому что он нереальный, в независимости в каком жанре он выступает он отдается на 200%
Нет такого деления. Есть хорошие исполнители и плохие... И поверьте, в опере их не меньше, чем в роке или попсе. Опера вообще моя любовь на все времена. Но половина записей у меня тяжелая рок-музыка, которую я знаю и люблю наравне с оперой.
Also, it seems like the show only gave Dimash (and all other contestants) a very short time slot. So he was kind of "forced" to show case his skill within that limited amount of time hence it may sound "all over the place". If you see his videos from the Chinese singing contest, they actually let him sing full songs. Thanks again for the great review Ken!
Everybody is getting short exposure they have a very limited time showing their talent but it's the same for everyone. Yes, I hope they give every contestant enough time to complete their performance not cutting short. If somebody from the judge didn't vote for Dimas it doesn't mean he's not good but some of the judges looking or expecting something extra special from the performer, if they're not convinced of course they won't vote you.
@@Marco-el2he I understand your perspective, but I can't think of a single mainstream commercial song that is less than 2 minutes long. Songs are usually 3-4 minutes for a reason.
You are absolutely right. That's why I think dimash's introduction to America isn't "proper" . it doesn't matter if everyone is given too short a time to perform. You have to let an artist- be- an artist, not clip them.experts should know that. Who are this people? I thought it was "the words best" Or does that starts and stop with the contestants. For those who have known dimash before this show can clearly see the difference. I don't think they've realized that dimash has his own genre of music hence his not there to fit into their particular music scene but for them to fit into his. Like the rest of the world already has. We know this. They don't. So I wonder did they do any research on the contestants before inviting them!?
Just wonderful explanation about your take on the British judge criticism on Dimash why he voted against him. I listened to several vocal coaches of different ethnic backgrounds and I came to the conclusion that "they" felt the same as your conclusive assessment , and yes, speaking a much better English is a must to succeed in the western culture but I am not so worried about that aspect because Dimash can whip that in a short period of time. Let's take an example on Celine Dion's and others whose English is not their native tongue. Celine Dion did not speak English in the beginning, she had to learn how to speak English to even succeed here in the USA. The only big difference is that Celine did have a major advantage was her late husband was connected to the music industry that helped her a lot. I am confident that Dimash will succeed here with the right tools presented to him. Go Dimash!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
The funny part about this judge was his comment about Dimash not being a viable commercial product. The fact is, before this show, 2 billion people had already discovered Dimash and listen to him. The number of RUclips views is staggeringly high. How many fans does one need to have, in order to be considered a viable product? This judge is too full of himself to be a judge.
His understanding of viable product maybe only concentrated on the English speaking mass market..... totally forgot about other markets such as Asia, Europe, middle east etc.... China alone is already a huge market... he didn't learn from the D&G blunder...
I really appreciate your ability to not be bias. The fact that you're able to logically respond to him is great!! You understand the difference between talent, and opinion... love it!
I agree with you Ken. When Dimash was competing in the chinese show "Singer", he was allowed enough time to perfom an entire song, hence showing both technical skills & passion. In "the worlds best", they cut of the song performances really short. So no wonder Dimash must maximize his performance to impress the judges. I think Dave has failed to realize this fact.
Dimash and all competitors had unlimited time to perform it front of the judges and dimash sang the entire song each time he sang on the worlds best they were just edited buy the tv channel to fit them in the 2 hour time span. They even flip flopped his last performance when in reality he sang after be trashed by rupaul and other judges. Now that a professional he gave 150% after all that drama!!!!
Completely agree!A judge is supposed to be unbiased whether its a Talent competition or in a Court of Law.And obviously this guy never heard Dimash sing award winning ballads without the extreme notes like "Late Autumn" or "Love of Tired Swans"
Dimash's technique is flawless, his tone perfect, his agility staggering. He surprises, then amazes, then shocks. In a competition he can, and should, pull out every weapon in his vocal armoury. I love him, but my fear is that he is in danger of becoming some sort of vocal trick pony where everyone sits through every song waiting for Eb7 or whatever it is. I think Dimash has an amazing future - and I think he has important things to say - so I look forward to seeing him develop as an artiste with his own 'voice'.
иногда такие выпады-оценки и еще во время шоу передач-делаются,чтобы привлечь внимание к своей персоне...а ни как дать поддержку настоящему в творчестве...Димаш помогает развитию культуры и утоньшению вкуса к качественной музыке..люди в нашей стране устали от навязывания нам дебилизма -так и хочется сказать жоп музыки...такое творчество поворачивает людей к настоящему
Beautifully and thoughtfully stated. Two minutes is not a long time for Dimash (or any other singer) to win people over to something that is very different from what they are used to hearing. I suspected that Dimash would have this problem but I'm thankful it is from relatively few judges. Dimash needs to keep doing his thing and most likely all will turn out well for him and those who enjoy listening to him.
I just recently learned from an audience member that was there, that Dimash's original performance was about 7 - 8 minutes long. He started with a Kazakhstan song and then this was his finale. Roughly 6 minutes was removed from the broadcast and it's no where to be found on the internet. 😞 They said it was very beautiful and represented his culture (which was his intention).
I LOVE your videos because you actually KNOW what you're talking about and make yourself understood. One of my favourites reactors, that's for sure. There's one thing that has been left out in all this, especially regarding judges and their opinions: Dimash only has 2 minutes to make an impression and it's just not enough time to make an impact. We who follow Dimash and have watched his performances KNOW that emotion is what he is about. It really is unfair to have him cut down his performance to only 2 minutes.
Yes, because Ken is professional he understands the difficulty and the technicalities of the song and extremely knowledgeable so he can truly appreciate the work even though Ken have a rock/ metal background. With the other guy, it’s not his cup of tea so before probably Dimash sing he have that already in the back of his head that he’s not gonna like it and not willing to give it a try to listen or even understand the difficulty. At the end , whose gaining fame right now and whose the most talk about artist and selling songs? No other than Dimash. And Dimash is just getting better and better and continue to evolve
DIMASH brings something new to the world of music (as a listener) , I didn't listen to any song for long long time. I felt the songs were the same ..there is no change . The same all the time .. But when I listen to Dimash I hear , feel , live , and enjoy everything at the same time and I want to listen to him more and more . U made my day by ur opinion .. FINALLY I am smilling 😜😄.. Love and respect from Dubai ❤️ thank u ( sorry for my poor english)
Totally agree, I feel all songs were always the same from all the others singers, until dimash cameto power :D, he can sing different songs and everything more, it never the same and we never know what next he will bring :)
Ken, I love your on spot reactions to Dimash & I am very happy to have come across you. Some people may be able to sing the high notes & some people may be able to sing the low notes but to sing a whole song with all notes there is only Dimash who can sing it to perfection. That judge does not have a leg to stand on with his stupid explanation. He’s making a fool of himself. There is no comparison to Dimash who is absolutely the best singer in the world. We Dears do not have to know the language to fall in love with Dimash’s great heavenly voice & how he gets each & every song across to us. Elvis was King of rock, Michael Jackson was King of pop, B.B. King was King of the blues, James Brown was King of soul but Dimash is THE KING OF ALL THE GENRES & to mix it all up into his songs is PURE GENIUS. Thank you very much Ken. You are a brilliant man. Best wishes for a healthy & happy 2020 & beyond. Peace & Love from the great North Canada. 🇨🇦🤗🥰💥💥
Ken, that’s exactly what I was saying!!!! The judges are NOT there to judge on “style”. There are so many amazing singers from all over the world singing different styles. It’s just so unprofessional and biased to not vote for someone due to their “style”. The judges should put aside their likes and bias and judge the contestants based on execution, level of difficulty, stage present, deliverance, technique etc. After all, it’s a competition. It’s kind of like telling Usain Bolt, “just because you can doesn’t mean you should” and he’s in a race. I understand that he is entitled to his professional opinion but his opinion doesn’t make sense and is very biased.
exactly! btw, the show is called the Worlds Best, not who is the most money producing future talent that this judge seems to be thinking about . Ken, have you already listened Dimashes Screaming video, where he uses more pop-style singing?
I think all judges must have OPEN MIND when they came to this show, so they must recognise and understand all kinds of interpretations, no matter if the judge is rock producer, or composer of pop music. And when Dave take judge of dancers, or acrobatics, how he do it? From rock and roll point of view? So, my opinion is that he can not be judge in this kind of competition, just on some show for rock and roll talents.
РУССКИЙ ПЕРЕВОД/RUSSIAN TRANSLATION, PART 2 (сокращенный, 2 часть): Ответ Эринга: …я люблю в некоторой степени несовершенное исполнение. Многие люди в соцсетях критикуют меня, и их не интересует мое мнение, и я должен судить (по их мнению) размер таланта. Рискну ответить, что это невозможно и это весьма субъективное занятие. Нельзя судить в сфере искусства, как на экзамене по математике….. Комментарий Тэмплина: Это не правда! И да, и нет! Поясню: давайте сравним с игрой в футбол - сколько голов забито и т.п. Конечно, МОЖНО, потому что есть система подсчета очков. НОТЫ!!! Оценить вокальную технику можно! (перечисляет нюансы, например, то, что певец берет C6 и т.д.…) Другое дело, нравится вам это или нет…и это уже дело вкуса - субъективная оценка! И это то, что называется мнением.
Ответ Эринга: …нет ничего верного или ошибочного.. Критика в искусстве субъективна по своей природе… Комментарий Тэмплина: Это правда! (по поводу первой фразы). И снова о субъективности:в музыке 50 % - это сфера Творчества и 50% - сфера Мастерства. Сфера Творчества подобна белому листу, на котором можно рисовать красками что захочешь, и это субъективно. Но когда вы сочетаете техничность (Мастерство) с желанием творить, вы получаете во много крат больше возможностей творческого самовыражения. И эти два аспекта должны идти рука об руку. Это не одно и то же. Ответ Эринга: …я люблю картины Марка Роско, хотя многим покажется, что это нагромождение цветов… комедии Билла Хикса, хотя там немало политики, я люблю «Нирвану», она изменила мою жизнь, хотя для многих это всего лишь истошные вопли. Если речь о выступлении Димаша на конкурсе World’s Best, я считаю, что оно было в некоторой степени избыточным. Оно напоминало выступление гитариста, который играет миллион нот в секунду… Комментарий Тэмплина: Честно сказано!....Да, можно сыграть миллион нот…я, например, могу играть на гитаре очень бегло - посмотрите мои видео..и я согласен с тем, что Би Би Кинг играл одну ноту…играя одну ноту, можно сказать очень много…если говорить о барабанщиках, Джон Бонэм - один из моих любимых барабанщиков, и во многих случаях имеет смысл говорить о несыгранных им нотах, нежели о сыгранных. Пауза создавала некое пространство (имитирует игру на барабанах), и это было круче! Дэйв пытается сказать именно о такой паузе, и я с ним согласен, но опять же не стоит забывать, что мы на вокальном конкурсе, и этот парень (Димаш) пытается показать все, что умеет, он обязан это сделать по условиям конкурса……не ОДНУ НОТУ, а все свое мастерство, которое заставит жюри повернуться к нему и проголосовать за него! Итак, есть резон и в идее одной ноты, и в идее вокального конкурса, в котором надо побеждать! Ответ Эринга: …(выступление) впечатляет, невероятно, что певец делает невозможное.. но для меня в музыке приемлем принцип «чем меньше, тем лучше» (говорит об одной ноте Би Би Кинга)….иногда эмоция рождается именно в паузе, и если нет этой паузы, то эмоция до меня не доходит. Комментарий Тэмплина: Когда Димаш берет низкие ноты, он делает это очень страстно и отдается полностью пению, а когда он идет вверх, он начинает сражать публику наповал, демонстрируя технику - и то, и другое может не нравиться… это может раздражать, как куча нот одновременно или быстрая игра на гитаре…но это то, что Димаш должен делать по определению…немного нечестно судить певца по одному представлению, одной песне, и он не в клетке живет, чтобы сказать ему: "Эй, выходи, покажи, что умеешь, а мы тебе скажем, что мы от тебя хотим…"дайте Димашу свободу самовыражения, и он нас еще удивит… Ответ Эринга:…если говорить о профессиональном мнении, то могу сказать, что на британском музыкальном рынке, где я работаю продюсером, у этого певца могут возникнуть сложности. В записи этот невероятный голос будет звучать как пятеро исполнителей и слушателей это может сбить с толку… Комментарий Тэмплина: (с иронией и сомнением) Кто-то должен был предупредить Марайю Кэрри о подобном в начале ее карьеры… Ответ Эринга:…и я с удовольствием отдал свой голос за Данелию, потому что у нее невероятный голос, который будет иметь успех на музыкальном рынке. Думаю через пару лет при правильном подборе песенного материала и правильном продюсировании, она станет суперзвездой. Скажу также, что страстность поклонников Димаша обрушилась на меня шквалом, и я получил от них в свой адрес весьма интересные и изысканные оскорбления. На самом деле, мне импонирует то, что его фанаты так нежны и преданы по отношению к нему…как в старые добрые времена… Тэмплин: Закончим на этом… Все просто: покажите мне более техничного певца в мире! Покажите того, кто продемонстрирует интонацию, чувства, мощь, выносливость, о которых я говорил,…дети сегодня удивительные и лучший должен соответствовать! И пока что это Димаш! С удовольствием послушаю его новые композиции. (видимо, обращаясь к ученикам) Буду рад, если ваше знание английского и пение улучшится, и я не имею в виду бельканто, а современное звучание, в этом продюсер прав - трудно найти свою аудиторию, исполняя только бельканто, хотя, конечно, если вы будете выступать в сфере бельканто, то ваша карьера сложится великолепно. И да, если вы научитесь исполнять бельканто в современном звучании, черпая знания из разных источников…кстати, я использую бельканто в обучении. Это было мое мнение - мнение Кена Тэмплина. Храни вас Бог! Мир всем! Отключаю.
I am not a musician, nor an amateur musician, I had a very rough 4 years battling with music studies. Not even my mother tongue is any of the 7 languages Dimash can sing. I live in south America, very far from the music main stream. What I much appreciate from Dimash is that he is not influenced by producers, nor the market. With his own production company he can do whatever he feels. Mr Eringa has his point of view about the marketability of Dimash singing performance for the western taste. I am pretty sure Dimash is making his own path. Would it be possible to do in any western gala what he did in the EMI GALA? To honor his grandma in the stage?
I am not a singer and a voice vocal teacher...I am here to voice out my opinion about Dimash...I came from the Philippines and the world knows that filipinos are known for being a good singer even without a proper training,we are known for our passion in singing and a daily practices helps improved our vocal chords, I have a very good ear and I can hear if a person can really sing or not,everyone does it who loves music... the first time I heard Dimash,I was really blown away by his style of singing...his fantastic acrobatic vocal range is phenomenal...he sings from the heart and hes a true artist because he play with his music,he portrays and gave life to his music,his body action,his love and passion came from the core of his HEART...I dont think he just want to impress the judges,of course hes in a competition,he should impress the judges...who doesn't did it when you're in front of them? he should proved what he can do ,remember its a "World Best Competition"...he's grandma took him to a voice lesson when he was 5 and by a rigid training and coaching he was able to expertised hes field,he's able to master the task given ,he's the director,actor and singer of the band...for me,he's a true performer from a to z . About the TNT Boys,I am so proud of them at their young ages...I love them so much and who may ever won the Title World Best deserves it...and I wish them all the best!
I agree with you. I also don't think the show is being fair to the watching public. They want to showcase the talents of these competitors but then decide to cut most of the performance out? The full performances are more important than what some lame judge thinks of it afterwards. How can a viewer decide if they want more of him if they can't see his whole performance? This show is so stupid.
Totally, totally agree with you Ken. Eringa thinks DIMASH would find it hard to, 'get on' in the UK??? Really! DIMASHs sold out within days of his London O2 concert. I couldn't get ANY tickets because so many people travelled from other countries desperate to see DIMASH live they sold like hot cakes. James Corden said it best to Eringa: SHAME. SHAME. SHAME. SHAME. SHAME and I for one agree!!! Eringa, DOES NOT in our eyes, represent the general consensus of the GB public. Who on earth gave Eringa the GB job in the first place??? Boy did they get it WRONG!!! I'd rather have Simon Cowell at least he appreciates TALENT whether it's his cup of tea or not. And I'm not a huge fan of Simon Cowell. Send Eringa home.
Are you sure Simon Cowell will like this guy? Simon has criticised many technical perfection singers too. As he sells pop records. It takes more than technical perfection and range.
@@lexxylexxy 💙 glad you agree too. DIMASH deserved better... 100% James Corden said it best...Shame Shame Shame. Simon Cowell isn't my favourite choice of judge but I bet he'd have seen DIMASHs TALENT after all he did vote 👍for Susan Boyle and I don't think it was for her looks🥴 Lol D.
@@JK-zu1np Hi. Simon Cowell voted 👍for Susan Boyle and it wasn't for her looks. Eringas a fool he doesn't speak for the majority of the GB public. DIMASH has a global following...I think that says a lot too. Thanks for your comment 😊 ps I'm Scottish and a huge Metallica fan so:- Eringa 🤜🤬🤛 SORTED!!! 🤕
Tu crees que Dimash necesita de a los britanicos cuando solo en China cuenta con 1.400 millones de seguidores,mas otros miles de millones por el mundo,piensalo,porque el no se va a dejar manejar por ninguna productora musical para que le imponga otro estilo,el canta lo que le da la gana,porque puede permitirselo.
УВАЖАЕМЫЕ знатоки английского языка! Сделайте перевод, ПОЖАЛУЙСТА! Очень интересны аргументы данного судьи, проголосовавшего против Димаша! Я думаю, ВСЕМ поклонникам Димаша будет интересно услышать "оправдательную речь" "судьи"
Hey Ken. Im your fan! Thanks for professional and personal incentives ! Please react on Dimashe's "Late Autnum" and break it down for us. This song showcases much more technique and feeling than almost any other song of Dimash.
Thank you.I'm so glad you brought this up.I think many have been very frustrated of this guy's statements,me included. They call him the six octave man,for crying out loud...and it's a singing competition😰😁 Maybe he will change his mind later on😎
Я так считаю,если что-то в исполнении Димашем не понравилось,значит он не увидел его талант,это ещё один минус вокалисту ,который делает реакцию,он должен был определить суперспособности Димаша..он ещё наверно не слышал Олимпико,или принципиально не смотрит Димаша
РУССКИЙ ПЕРЕВОД/RUSSIAN TRANSLATION, PART 1(сокращенный, 1 часть): Всем здравствуйте! И снова Вокальная Академия Кена Тэмплина, в которой мастерство пения превыше всего. Я продолжаю анализ видео с Димашем и перехожу к видео конкурса World’s Best, а именно той части, где Дэйв Эринга (Д.Э.) дает комментарии, и собираюсь дать свои комментарии в надежде, что они будут вам полезны, друзья. Итак, смотрим…(ведущий конкурса Джеймc Корден спрашивает Эринга: «Вы музыкальный продюсер…чего вам не хватило?...певец был великолепен…». Ответ продюсера: «Ощущение такое, что если даже ты можешь все, это все не должно присутствовать в одном выступлении».) Я готов прокомментировать сразу же…прежде всего, мне понравился взгляд Кордена…типа, не понял о чем это???))) (корчит гримасу). Ну, если вы умеете быстро бегать, это не значит, что это нужно делать!))) (шутит). Суть в том, и я говорил это в предыдущих видео, что Димашу присуща оперная манера исполнения бельканто (техника виртуозного пения - мое примечание), но я предлагаю задуматься вот о чем - Димаш участвует в большом телевизионном шоу, и у него трудная задача - продемонстрировать свою вокальную подготовку, все свое мастерство, он должен произвести впечатление на судей, и если он при этом поет в нижнем или среднем регистре, то есть выдает стандарт, то поразить судей и публику не получится. У этой медали две стороны, и я готов пояснить: Боб Дилан, пожалуй, один из величайших и влиятельных авторов-исполнителей за последние 50 лет с лишним лет.... случись ему выйти на сцену такого конкурса со своей манерой исполнения, он бы провалился, да, ему бы вероятно и не дали выступить в таком конкурсе, ибо никто бы не оценил его артистическую манеру. Все это так, но, в данном случае, это непосредственная обязанность Димаша продемонстрировать все, на что он способен, вплоть до эпатажа, ради того, чтобы произвести впечатление. И стопроцентное попадание состоит в том, что публика не скрывает восхищения, а певец добивается этого, демонстрируя высокие ноты, стиль, мелизмы и проч….продолжим…(восхищается Дрю Бэрримор и говорит о личном знакомстве с ней… далее фрагмент шоу, в котором все стыдят продюсера…далее слова представительницы Казахстана, Гаухар Нуртас, о том, что она спросила Эринга на этом шоу, почему он не проголосовал за Димаша и проголосовал за Данелию). Ответ Эринга: Я собираюсь прокомментировать свое голосование: меня спрашивают, почему я не проголосовал за Димаша и проголосовал за Данелию.. я не голосовал против….. Комментарий Тэмплина: Здесь и далее своего рода оправдание, но не будем забывать, что это личное мнение этого человека, и каждый из нас имеет право на собственное мнение, это его «очки» сквозь которые он смотрит на мир и музыку… Ответ Эринга: Перед началом шоу нам сообщили, что при голосовании мы вправе выражать свое личное и профессиональное мнение.. я начну с личного: я из среды рок и панк-музыкантов, музыкальный продюсер, поэтому, безусловно, я люблю более рваное, резкое исполнение… Комментарий Тэмплина: Давайте обсудим, ибо это важно для меня. Мне это близко, ибо я сам рок-музыкант и люблю подобное исполнение, и да, у меня вышло 40 дисков и сотни моих песен…вы можете погуглить и уточнить (перечисляет свои достижения)….и у меня есть опыт, когда твои песни в стиле хард-рок анализируют джазовые критики или редакторы…ой, никогда так не делайте - не просите давать отзыв на хард-рок джазового исполнителя и наоборот…им это не понравится!!!))), словом, не просите рок-музыканта оценить оперную манеру пения бельканто, поскольку его сфера рок и панк. Я мало знал о Д.Э. и почерпнул информацию о нем в Википедии….я считаю, что суждение о ком-то должно быть честной и открытой игрой, судите меня по всем пунктам - мой голос, записи, мои профессиональные качества и т.п., мнение мнению рознь, и это крайне важно. Я нашел видео исполнителя, Manic Street Preachers, который записал 9 дисков с Д.Э., и выложу ссылку на него в комментариях для вас, друзья, чтобы вы могли ознакомиться с деятельностью этого музыкального продюсера и могли оценить его суждения о выступлении Димаша. Он также создал группу Idlywild и выпустил 4 альбома…это много…словом, у вас есть возможность в полной мере оценить творчество Д.Э. Он работал с Кайли Миноуг (называет песню), но при этом количество просмотров не превысило двух миллионов просмотров, даже несмотря на масштаб звезды. Димаш набрал такое количество просмотров несравнимо быстрее (не будем это сбрасывать со счетов). Дэйв работал с певцом Роджером Долтри в 2018, и мне понравился его альбом, количество просмотров составило только 165 тысяч, к сожалению, поскольку Долтри - известный вокалист английской группы The Who, а это была одна из моих любимых групп…и, да, он мультиплатиновый продюсер, и это прекрасно!....Я призываю рассуждать в контексте, как и предлагает Дэйв. И я за открытость в обсуждении моего и любого другого творчества (перечисляет критерии: записи, гастроли, преподавание……). В связи с этим, мнение Дэйва заслуживает уважения, и не стоит забывать о том, что этот продюсер получил высокий статус судьи такого солидного шоу!
👍👍👍👏👏👏👍👍👍👏👏👏Every singer can be played by someone else, but no one can cover Dimash's performances. If someone shows me a man, who can sing better than Dimash, or at least as good as he is, then I will give up on Dimash. Is there anyone else, who can combine his perfect vocal craftsmanship, unlimited voice capabilities, the unique arrangements he makes, stage behavior and passion, and charm and charisma? You do not need to know the language, to feel the emotions which Dimash injects you, with his performance.
Valya Todorova There was a hispanic girl who covered Dimash’s version of SOS (it was in the video’s title), while she was ok, sometimes great, her high notes all felt like shouting and screechy... If she had did the original version I think she would have covered it AMAZINGLY!! So I see what you are saying..
Are you referring to his originals? If it's not in English, then I won't be able to connect to the songs at all. Or feel anything about it when I don't understand what he is singing about. So far, he is doing very badly with English songs. Perhaps because it's not his first language and cannot connect with English songs. Definitely he doesn't sound anywhere close to all those things you described in World's Best.
Very interesting to listen to a professional reviewing another professional. :D As someone who only LISTEN to Music I often feel unequipped to even have an opinion on what is 'good' or 'bad' Music... and when a person who has Music as their profession says something isn't very good… well, it can make me wonder. (Not that I for a nanosecond felt anything other than admiration for Dimash's singing, he's just awsome.) It can however give the nay-sayers fuel to their fires. (Can't for the Life of me understand why people who don't like a particular artist still bother following said artist's videos and leave negative comments… just go listen to whatever you DO like for heaven's sake.) Anyway. Thank you for this educational video. I atleast learned a few things.
This constructive criticism is sooo on point. I love it. I hope dimash saw this. This vid will be his edge to win the competition. Take care always ken! 😍
The Fifth Element meets the 2001 Space Odyssey Monolith. Crouching Tiger meets the Hidden Dragon. T. A. Kh. Angelic voice knocks on Heaven’s door and tears my soul to “Fine” shreds. Rose of Kazakhstan. God Bless and Keep Dimash Qudaibergen. Blessings to his family and Kazakhstan, all his teachers and guides and all those who had a hand in developing this Brilliant Emerald, Much Love to you all. Special Thanks to China.
As a musician love your reactions/analysis man!! Please do more:-) Dimash just 24. He studies very hard on his voice. He is already great singer. He will be better.
Unfortunately these types of judges can mar an artist's career if it were not for Dimash's more than considerable vocal abilities.Though the art up for review is not of his idealism it's art for art's sake and should be judged as such.The goal should be to listen without prejudice.This should be the skill of a great critic.Thanks for sharing your views and the dissection of the critics views as well Ken.
I agree with you.... Dimash have to show what he is capable to do with his voice in the short time he has... Besides, why give to muhc attention to this record producer? You know how many GREAT and LEGENDARY singers, songwriters, artists and bands were rejected by "record producers"?
I did look you up, and you are really a beautiful singer...My brother, Robin McNamara also has a beautiful voice and made a record in the 70's called, Lay a Little Lovin On Me. He was in HAIR and played lead, Claude. As far as Dimash is concern...I'm addicted to him...He almost feels angelic and soothes my spirit with his high notes and lyrics. I am 73 years old. I also was in the music industry, as a dancer in my youth. I was never into classical or Opera until Dimash...but now it's like I just can't get enough....My daughter is pictured here...I am Mary Ciraso McNamara...And again...you have a BEAUTIFUL voice and you speak very eloquently!
Fantastic. I agree with you on everything you said. Let us find someone who can do like Dimash. 😄 I will post your reaction to our fan club. DKIFC/sLOVEnia
Hi Ken, I appreciate your reaction and evaluation of Dimash and the judging issue. As you pointed out that Dimash is still very young and is growing into his vocal skill. I started watching the show "The Singer" around the 3 or 4th week of the Chinese show and yes, his English needed some work. What won me over, was his technical skill, power and passion that he sings with. Now, approximately 2 years later, his English has improved greatly since "The Singer" show and will continue to improve with all the hard work he is doing. Apparently, he is studying English and Mandarin so those who have issue with his language skills just don't understand the hard work he puts into bring all of it together. You are correct and we just need to give him the time to get there. How many superstar singers is trying to do what he is doing? Taking over the world takes times and he has many years a head of him to accomplish this goal. If you go back and watch Dimash dance to Michael Jackson, you would see that he wasn't a great MJ dancer but he is determine to accomplish a level of dancing like MJ without fear...and he has gotten so much better. This is the key to Dimash...he has no fear and is singularly focus on being the absolutely best that he can be. This is what I believe amazes Dimash's fans. We all know he isn't perfect but we see the ultimate potential he has and we all want to watch him grow into this superstar that has never been approached by anyone before him. I guess this is the "Glass half full" vs "Glass half empty" view point. It is easy to be negative. It doesn't require much thought or effort. Ken, I am glad I came across your channel and see your own talent and enjoy hearing you discussing Dimash in breaking down how and why Dimash sings the way he does and I hope Dimash hears some of your words. I also believe your thoughts on those warmer tones would help a lot. We all are wanting him to work towards that vocal perfection.
thank you Ken for that video, it was really great of you to make it so that people would understand more about music as art, I totally agree, Dimash was invited to this show and given this nickname for a specific reason, so it was strange for me to hear Dave comment on Di's abilities in such a way
Thanks for your review on this Judge on his decision not to vote for Dimash! I'm a 63 year old Canadian lady and a big fan of Dimash. We "dears" cannot wait for a Dimash CD!!! One can just close their eyes, not understand one word of a song that D sings, and his songs go straight to the heart. Not only is D super talented he's humble and dedicated to bringing peace and love to the world through his songs!
Ken I am absolutely agree with you. We know Dimash , we can hear him , see him over and over again and always he makes us feel the same , he makes us feel that he is *The Best* . Thank you for the vídeo, Kisses and Hugs From The Green Cost of Lima - Perú.
You are absolutely right! Talent, control, range, passion, all that can be objectively judged. I'm not into jazz, but as someone who's dabbled in singing and playing piano, I am in awe of the skills many jazz musicians have just to name an example. If you can't judge objectively and if you don't understand what the show is about, maybe this isn't the panel for you. That's what I have to say about this guy.
Thank you for that very insightful comments.You hit the nail right on the head of Dave Enringa. It's a competition and the time given was very short. Dimash was branded as the 6 octave man. He has to show those in 2 minutes. Only a true singer with high vocal capability like you will understand how difficult it is. I am one of your countless followers.
Wow, great video. Fantastic information and ability to get points and information across. You are also a fantastic speaker along with your singing, musical, and instrumental skills.
Dimash the great. Hands down.. This is competition and Dimash is given name as '6 Octave Man'. So for sure Dimash will show every judge what is he capable off.. If Dimash only sing in 1note, everybody will ask, where is the 5 octave go? 😂 okay Ken i wish i can learn singing from you.. You're great vocal coach with an amazing singing skills. Hands down to you to. Salute!
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Thanks and credit to Gia Noortas and her Hollywood Film Academy®️ for use of their material in this reaction video. Awesome footage!
Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy thank you 😊
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СВS cut out the most important part of the conversation because they lie to him and want to hide it from the public..On RUclips there is a video in which 2 judges from the audience, who were present during this conversation, told about what was really happened. They were furious about how СВS treated Dimash. When Dimash signed a contract, his condition for signing a contract was that he would not compete with children. He was told that there would be no children. After that, they forbade competitors to see each other.During the competition, Dimash accidentally saw in the hallway whom he competing with.And it was 2 small children. In thе part of the world where Dimash and I come from, competition between adults and children is considered injustice, not equal, and low. Adults always compete separately from children. Children are always allowed to go forward. They simply deceived him. СВS cut out part where Dimash publicly reminded the bald РS that what was a condition for signing the contract.To take the price from children is a humiliation not only for him but for his whole country. People will no longer respect him and he would be ashamed to return home and look people in the eye. They also changed the order of what was. Dimash sang the last song after they were disrespectful to him. My great respect for Dimash.
@@russ4917 where can i see the full video?
Dimash sings with such passion he has the judges and audience crying. I saw a video where even Simon Cowell got emotional by Dimash’s voice so keep on doing you’re doing Dimash!
I'm 58 years old, I was punk when I was young and I love Dimash. I love jazz, rock, classical music. I think people who work with music should like good music of any musical style 😉
61.03.08. Salem! Qazaqstan.
I think a person likes what they like. They could be versed in other genres but they don't have to like it.
Agree.... am almost half a century old.......... i listen to multiple genres from classical to death metal to Mongolian folksongs .... good music is good music... borderless & limitless
helena matias so true .. and i'm 25 and i listen to clint mansel, system of a down, eminem etc .. good music is good music and if you can't see it you have a reductive mindset .. it means that you were only exposed to one type of music
this is one of the things that i don't get, i don't listen to Justin Bieber personally, but I can recognize his talents. why limit yourself? I would love to hear Dimash in his more normal range, his voice is really top notch, but he isn't singing for me, he is singing to a larger audience. the pianist that won was doing the same thing, he was playing to please the crowd, I called him Little Liberace. He knows his audience isn't a bunch of pianists, they like the dramatics.
Imagine Dave doesn't like opera and he has to judge Pavarotti live !!! A true talent killer !!!
hah yes :-) good one!
Pavarotti is the type of opera singer who will touch people who hates Opera. He is on another level from Dimash. Do not compare them. Pavarotti sings with so much soul. Dimash sings with no heart.
that producer is only holding personal views.doesnt seem to give some appreciation on some branches of music legacy.for me he is not that professional to accept other aspects in terms of music internal colors. he is only playing on his own game.
Try to check YFSF the tnt boys PavaRotti(francis) who imitate ... The Three Tenor.
They are all amazing ...
JK Dimash has passion on his song too, but Pava is much better
It was an AUDITION! Dimash had limited time to show what he could do. He nailed it.
Dimash is not just a good singer but an artist who can paint a song,not just with his vocals but with his passions and his emotions so much so you can visualize the picture -his vocal artwork
Catherine Lee Well said!
Love this video, Ken! Very interesting and agree with your comments. I get very frustrated with comments in shows which are based on judge's genre preference as opposed to judging of the technical capability as well as the artistry. Thank you
Yes, Rached, I agree with you and Ken.
The court of public opinion knows that Dimash is the world's best. And he won our respect by quitting the talent competition in respect of his culture which do not allow adults to compete against children.
All I will say is that Dimash is a rare diamond. Even ordinary people with no knowledge of music will know that. His level is already on the TOP
Bhoyemar He is special, for sure.
Great arguments, Ken! This story "just because you can, doesn't mean you always should" started long ago in Kazakhstan, where local judges were bullying Dimash every time he showed his full vocal power. Those numerous "why did you use this technique?", "this range is not necessary for the song", "you demonstrate yourself, not the song", bla bla bla. This forced him to leave to China where public and judges were more listening and thinking prior to talking readymade. I strongly believe that in Dimash's case "JUST BECAUSE HE CAN - HE SHOULD ALWAYS"! J
i agree Edward - i spoke to some Kazak students in London last Autumn and they said that some of the KZ people drove him literally away!
Very well said Edward.
But he did not make it in China.he's a good singer but why?
Dimash does it because he can do it, no one else. Moreover it's important just to say to young beginning singers - please work on your technic and do your business as better as it possible. Paricularly if you are at the world stage - saying: Hi, i'm Dimash and i can do it, please follow me, try do it better. Everybody has to understand - how much work behind! All these makes Dimash exlusive singer only one the world heard ever Nevertheless, please forget this vision of this limited range guy an who cann't be honest. Dimash is thw world's best!
Not exactly true, Dimash won the Kazakh song contest Zhas Kanat and then went to Brlarus to win at the Slavyanski Bazaar. Only then we went to China . The Kazakh judges did once turned him down yes , those were early days though. Those judges were incompetent.
Ken you are just AWESOME!!! You are so clever, honest, knowledgable and talented! No wonder you understand Dimash like no other. you are AMAZING!!!! Thank you for your videos! I really enjoy watching them!
Thanks Martin!
This is really really interesting! The same thing happened to Dimash with a judge in another competition (in Kazakhstan or Russia, not sure which language they spoke). She said just because you can doesn't mean you should, and that sometimes less is more. He politely and respectfully thanked the judge and seemd to take it on board. However he knows that it comes down to personal opinion in the end. He always wants to please all of his audience but there are some people who don't like what he does and he is OK with that. He has self confidence in his abilities, and he measures his performance against his own internal gauge. He has so much experience in competition and performing on stage that he know what he needs to do to impress the people who matter. If there are some he doesn't impress he simply accepts it, smiles, says thank you and lets it go.
I think that there are fans who leap to his defence too quickly. He doesn't need defending. From those who don't like his style the 'critcism' is like water off a ducks back. He knows what is important, who is important to him and why, and it is those people he listens to very carefully. He is a humble and respectful guy who lets everyone be who they are without trying to change them.
They named him the "six octave man" then this judge thinks he shouldn't sing high. Umm ok.
That's right. That's what it was called on the show. After all, when he was asked about his range, he modestly replied that this does not matter.
The judge is a bit jelly
ha ha ha .your'e right.absurd,isnt it?
LOL. That is true! I didn't think of connecting that... Some people sing to express themselves, even with their bad vocals, and some sing just because they love to... but for me, Dimash likes to experiment with his vocal chords... May be his habit... It's not about showing off...
The problem of this competition they are not in the same genre. They are all. Superb in their own kind of genre. All performers are excellent. So I think the competition will be based on their appeal, their charisma or charm. To judges and to the audience. I think they can measure their ability if its the same genre. But people like music more than other talents showcase. And also depends on how iconic or famous thing they are doing. So i guess the charm and appeal of performers that will catch the heart of the judges and audience.will be the winner. But ill go with TNT BOYS they are talented plus had charm.Go TNT boys!!! ♥️
In my opinion there is a contradiction in this TV program, if this is a musical talent program, with the purpose of selecting the best singers, then the musical taste of the jury shouldn't be taken into consideration, but the abilities of the participants (singers) If you take your personal taste into the program and select only the singers who sing the musical genre that you like, you are not being impartial and professional, everyone has the right to not like something but this is about a program of vocal, musical skills, not of personal taste to jurors.
I had a friend who received his degree in music theory and cello.
One of the best things he ever told me was that it was okay to not like a genre of music or art style; but that should not stop me from recognizing when it is done well, or giving credit for the talent involved.
I.E. I really do not like rap. But I don't dismiss the talent or abilities it takes to perform in that genre.
You can't please everybody. Just accept the reality
Amanda Alves that’s exactly my opinion too
Total agree
Thank u for sharing your reaction. I do not concur with the judge’s opinion re Dimash. I discovered Dimash several months ago on a Chinese talent show & he literally blew me away with his beautiful voice & selection of songs. I don’t even speak Mandarin, but when I heard him sing Autumn Strong- I got so emotional that I sat there and cried. Not one artist has affected me that way. I will continue to be an avid fan of Dimash and my wish is to see him live in concert.
Debbie Paracuelles Beautifully said! I agree and I too want to see him in concert.
Для тех, кто не понял о чем речь. Судья проголосовавший против Димаша, настаивает на своем праве на личное мнение, на personal вкусы и предпочтения. Но тогда он не имеет право участвовать в судействе музыкантов в тех областях, которые ему не нравятся. Пусть судит только rock music , а на другие конкурсы не лезет. Правильно?
Да не обьтективно🙄🙄🙄🙄
валентина я совершенно согласна с вами тут судьи должны оценивать не с позиции "нравится ЕМУ лично или нет" а высказывать объективную точку зрения специалист.
Верно.
Все дело в том, что само шоу непродуманное, непонятное в том плане, что смешны все возраста от детей до пожилых, все несовместимые жанры от вокала, циркачей до танцев и ещё много чего. Поэтому судьи запутались вконец.
вы абсолютно правы и незачем им присутствовать в качестве судей, на концертах или конкурсах, пусть оценивают в своем узком кругу рок исполнителей
Why is not Ken as a judge in TWB? 😭 He is the only one that knows how to judge a singer.
Lorena Dávila I can’t agreed more !!!
A I agree.
Vote for Mr. Ken to be judge in TWB! 1 million percents I would agree, Sir👍😊
True that. Simon Cowell another good one, who truly know what is talent.
True!!!!
I completely agree with you. On the other hand, I think it's showbusiness.......maybe this judge had to play 'bad cop'. You can like Dimash or not but you cannot deny his talent.
Exactly!!!
Your comment about Mariah, while humurous, is bang on and says it all. That's what really set her apart. She was so unique, with that massive vocal range of hers. I remember being a teenager when she first exploded onto the scene. I clearly remember my friends and I being in awe. We LOVED to listen together to her low notes and high notes. We thought she was so cool! And so did millions and millions around the world. There are several successful singers out there who also have or have had wide vocal ranges. I've been to a few concerts where singers have experimented with low and high notes, and the crowd went wild. With Dimash, I close my eyes and listen to Daybreak from Bastau, or Love of Tired Swans, and imagine there are at least 3 to 5 different singers on the stage. Not only does he have the biggest range, but he also sings a variety of styles within one song... which you've explained for us. Pop, tenor, soprano, baritone, Asian and Kazakh folk, rap..... you name it, he's done it. I know that we (in English speaking countries at least) are now in the era of an auto-tuned and image based commercial music industry, but maybe, just maybe Dimash will start a revolution in music? I don't want to get too excited yet, but that's what I wish for. And there are sooo many good singers out there. We need to hear real voices. We need to hear different styles of singing. The art of singing needs an urgent comeback!
It is weird for those of us who have been following Dimash for a long time to see others discovering him. Dimash is in his own lane. A “pop-opera” genre. His body of work is amazing. And I have found I connect to his performances more when I don’t understand the language he is singing in. Late Autumn is one of my favorites as is Sinful Passion and SOS. The Chinese “got it” hopefully there are enough judges who will embrace the artistry, passion and talent Dimash brings.
Dimash is possibly the best vocalist of all time. The combination of raw talent, vocal control, breath control, annunciation and diction, plus a myriad of other vocal skills coupled with his showmanship and story telling within a song makes him a flawless performer! I can understand why some judges just don’t get it. I also think some are just jealous of his perfect performances!
I had lately seen the movie "Bohemian Rhapsody" and when I saw the comment of that judge in TWB I was thinking to myself that he is the same kind of "expert" as the producer, that didn't like Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. He just could not understand that people might want something different than the mainstream, that there are a great number of people that do not know anything about music, but when they hear the song, it moved their hearts and souls. I am a metal fan for many years, and I never liked slow songs or love songs, they were boring to me. But since I saw Dimash, I really can't stop listening to his or Terry Lin's songs. I really opend my mind on that kind of music. Unfortunately, any other artist I listen to now (even the one's I loved), sounds to me now ... just average. [sorry for my english, it's not my native language].
Justyna Bezia well the judge asking the question why dislikes rock, because she dislikes Liliac so she should not ask why in the first place, she’s in the same boat.
Great point. "Bohemian Rhapsody" as a song is "all over the place", sounds like a mashup of different genre different styles of singing, but it's a masterpiece. What does this English judge say about that? I wonder
You graciously made a wonderful point and your English is fabulous👏🏻
Английский не очень понимаю. А русскоязычным очень интересно узнать, что вы говорите. Но суть поняла. Еще и из коментов - там проще понять. Так вот, в Российском шоу та же проблема : после первых выступлений Димаша боссы заявили, что ЭТО слишком сложно, что народ любит попроще музыку и якобы такой тупой, что ничего не поймет. Эти высокомерные люди как всегда ошиблись. Первое же выступление Димаша на центральном TV вызвало массовый восторг.
Да, фабрика поющих трусов в негодовании, они чувствуют что их бизнес в опасности, Димаш такой один, а их поп проекты на его фоне выглядят жалко. Надо запретить, обгадить,,, Как приятно что Кен шарит очень хорошо и разоблачает подобные нападки. Он решил быть на светлой стороне.
I immediately said the same thing: Dimash is there to impress and needs to "beat them over the heads" with it. Also, why is being "commercial" considered being such a great thing? To me that usually means the same thing over and over again and it bores me. I do listen to contemporary stuff but also music from the 50ies, 60ies and so on. I want to taste ALL the flavours and see ALL the colors of the rainbow. Which is what I find so refreshing with Dimash.
Also, just need to adress that obsession about speaking English. I know it's a big thing for the native English-speaking nations, but not so much for the rest of us... 😉 There is this song Late Autumn that Dimash sings that is absolutely heartbreakingly emotionally beautiful. First time I heard it I didn't know what it was about but I cried.... I could feel it! The song is in Mandarin and I didn't understand a word, I had never heard the song before but it absolutely hit me hard. 😭
Later I have watched the performance again with background story of the song and with English translation of the lyrics. Very emotional indeed but that first time for me when I just FELT the song left me absolutely heartbroken. 💔
And THAT is what music is all about for me; listening with the heart and not with the brain.
👍😀Thank you.
PREACHH!!
Anneli Dahl i like your comment sooo much , i feel the same!🌹🌹🌹
Anneli Dahl 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yes!
My dear Ken .. No excuses. I am coming from a very underground music background and when i heard Dimash i was speechless not only with his range but as a whole. He made Lara Fabian on same song with same band in same place sound average. No excuses. When something is out of this world it needs to be recognized despite out preferences. Period
Rock on! Thanks for the visit!
Agreed.
What Dimash has done is create a new genre which he calls neo classical. He combines opera, pop, jass, h-metal and even rap, trying to bring back art to music. His music vibrates within you. Your heartbeat and brain waves change and if you’re tuned to his wave you hear only one voice not many different ones. No different than the techniques of “super learning”. He will be the major influence in making us love music again. Get ready for him.
One reactor (Stan from The B and S show) said in their first reaction that Dimash's singing could be used to treat diseases. It was a joke, but like we say in Russia: "Every joke is partly joke".
Your words about tuning are music to my ears. Thank you.
I love John Bonham too! I like that you are very professional and unbiased Ken! To the judge I can just say that it wasn’t a good decision to vote against him. I’m a rock and metal guy as well, but I think Dimash deserves to be praised.
Tomas M Thank you! Much success to you.
He didn't give justice when he sang all my myself. He over do it.
very well said bro.
Accept the fact.. not all people can please in a subj. Or in talent,, its all about our taste...
That guy has brittish arrogance , i realy dont care but upset about ... if dimash sing from stand up shout-steel dragon i want to see his face. Btw im a death metal guy and a death metal musician... and still can impress with dimash...
He said he has a punk background. Maybe that's why he thinks know how to sing is subjective, punk vocalist most of the times are bad singers. And I saw a lot of record producers saying this days that be a good vocalist it's like the fourth or fifth thing they consider important in artists that explain a lot of shit that make sucess the late years.
mert koray topalak He expressed what was hard for me to express.
B t w ,it's not British arrogance----- but English snobbery
Ken Templin, ваши доводы очень справедливы! Спасибо за профессиональную оценку творчества феноменального Димаша! Очень интересны ваши реакции! Удачи!
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Понятно что человек который любит тяжелую рок музыку, то он не очень близок к поп-опере. На таком шоу не должно быть субъективных мнений. Получается если ему не нравиться то он не проголосовал, а то что у него талант, техника вокала, супер артистизм, харизма, внутренняя и внешняя красота и еще много чего в нем - все это невсчет.Не понимаю таких людей. А вам Кен спасибо
90% моего плейлиста состоят из Death и Black метала, но я очень уважаю и оперу и мюзиклы и некоторые произведения популярной музыки... Для меня тоже кажутся странными мотивы этого судьи.
Бред полный. Я например предпочитаю альтернативный рок. И я фанат Димаша, потому что он нереальный, в независимости в каком жанре он выступает он отдается на 200%
Нет такого деления. Есть хорошие исполнители и плохие... И поверьте, в опере их не меньше, чем в роке или попсе.
Опера вообще моя любовь на все времена. Но половина записей у меня тяжелая рок-музыка, которую я знаю и люблю наравне с оперой.
Also, it seems like the show only gave Dimash (and all other contestants) a very short time slot. So he was kind of "forced" to show case his skill within that limited amount of time hence it may sound "all over the place". If you see his videos from the Chinese singing contest, they actually let him sing full songs. Thanks again for the great review Ken!
Well you do need to be able to do both, in my opinion.
Everybody is getting short exposure they have a very limited time showing their talent but it's the same for everyone. Yes, I hope they give every contestant enough time to complete their performance not cutting short. If somebody from the judge didn't vote for Dimas it doesn't mean he's not good but some of the judges looking or expecting something extra special from the performer, if they're not convinced of course they won't vote you.
@@Marco-el2he I understand your perspective, but I can't think of a single mainstream commercial song that is less than 2 minutes long. Songs are usually 3-4 minutes for a reason.
Yes, I believe it's only about 90 seconds...whereas on The Singer, that same song was about 3-3.5 minutes. So more verses, better build up, etc.
You are absolutely right. That's why I think dimash's introduction to America isn't "proper" . it doesn't matter if everyone is given too short a time to perform. You have to let an artist- be- an artist, not clip them.experts should know that. Who are this people? I thought it was "the words best" Or does that starts and stop with the contestants. For those who have known dimash before this show can clearly see the difference. I don't think they've realized that dimash has his own genre of music hence his not there to fit into their particular music scene but for them to fit into his. Like the rest of the world already has. We know this. They don't. So I wonder did they do any research on the contestants before inviting them!?
Just wonderful explanation about your take on the British judge criticism on Dimash why he voted against him. I listened to several vocal coaches of different ethnic backgrounds and I came to the conclusion that "they" felt the same as your conclusive assessment , and yes, speaking a much better English is a must to succeed in the western culture but I am not so worried about that aspect because Dimash can whip that in a short period of time. Let's take an example on Celine Dion's and others whose English is not their native tongue. Celine Dion did not speak English in the beginning, she had to learn how to speak English to even succeed here in the USA. The only big difference is that Celine did have a major advantage was her late husband was connected to the music industry that helped her a lot. I am confident that Dimash will succeed here with the right tools presented to him. Go Dimash!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
The funny part about this judge was his comment about Dimash not being a viable commercial product. The fact is, before this show, 2 billion people had already discovered Dimash and listen to him.
The number of RUclips views is staggeringly high. How many fans does one need to have, in order to be considered a viable product?
This judge is too full of himself to be a judge.
His understanding of viable product maybe only concentrated on the English speaking mass market..... totally forgot about other markets such as Asia, Europe, middle east etc.... China alone is already a huge market... he didn't learn from the D&G blunder...
Thanks thanks and thanks you are super 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I really appreciate your ability to not be bias. The fact that you're able to logically respond to him is great!! You understand the difference between talent, and opinion... love it!
I agree with you Ken. When Dimash was competing in the chinese show "Singer", he was allowed enough time to perfom an entire song, hence showing both technical skills & passion. In "the worlds best", they cut of the song performances really short. So no wonder Dimash must maximize his performance to impress the judges. I think Dave has failed to realize this fact.
Dimash and all competitors had unlimited time to perform it front of the judges and dimash sang the entire song each time he sang on the worlds best they were just edited buy the tv channel to fit them in the 2 hour time span. They even flip flopped his last performance when in reality he sang after be trashed by rupaul and other judges. Now that a professional he gave 150% after all that drama!!!!
Hello thanks for your words, I am fan to Dimash 😍, greeting from Argentina 👌👍
Completely agree!A judge is supposed to be unbiased whether its a Talent competition or in a Court of Law.And obviously this guy never heard Dimash sing award winning ballads without the extreme notes like "Late Autumn" or "Love of Tired Swans"
Dimash's technique is flawless, his tone perfect, his agility staggering. He surprises, then amazes, then shocks. In a competition he can, and should, pull out every weapon in his vocal armoury. I love him, but my fear is that he is in danger of becoming some sort of vocal trick pony where everyone sits through every song waiting for Eb7 or whatever it is. I think Dimash has an amazing future - and I think he has important things to say - so I look forward to seeing him develop as an artiste with his own 'voice'.
иногда такие выпады-оценки и еще во время шоу передач-делаются,чтобы привлечь внимание к своей персоне...а ни как дать поддержку настоящему в творчестве...Димаш помогает развитию культуры и утоньшению вкуса к качественной музыке..люди в нашей стране устали от навязывания нам дебилизма -так и хочется сказать жоп музыки...такое творчество поворачивает людей к настоящему
Beautifully and thoughtfully stated. Two minutes is not a long time for Dimash (or any other singer) to win people over to something that is very different from what they are used to hearing. I suspected that Dimash would have this problem but I'm thankful it is from relatively few judges. Dimash needs to keep doing his thing and most likely all will turn out well for him and those who enjoy listening to him.
I just recently learned from an audience member that was there, that Dimash's original performance was about 7 - 8 minutes long. He started with a Kazakhstan song and then this was his finale. Roughly 6 minutes was removed from the broadcast and it's no where to be found on the internet. 😞 They said it was very beautiful and represented his culture (which was his intention).
You should be a judge , I vote for you !!!
I LOVE your videos because you actually KNOW what you're talking about and make yourself understood. One of my favourites reactors, that's for sure.
There's one thing that has been left out in all this, especially regarding judges and their opinions: Dimash only has 2 minutes to make an impression and it's just not enough time to make an impact. We who follow Dimash and have watched his performances KNOW that emotion is what he is about. It really is unfair to have him cut down his performance to only 2 minutes.
EXACTLY.
agree with you. so professional... God bless him
Yes, because Ken is professional he understands the difficulty and the technicalities of the song and extremely knowledgeable so he can truly appreciate the work even though Ken have a rock/ metal background. With the other guy, it’s not his cup of tea so before probably Dimash sing he have that already in the back of his head that he’s not gonna like it and not willing to give it a try to listen or even understand the difficulty. At the end , whose gaining fame right now and whose the most talk about artist and selling songs? No other than Dimash. And Dimash is just getting better and better and continue to evolve
DIMASH brings something new to the world of music (as a listener) , I didn't listen to any song for long long time. I felt the songs were the same ..there is no change . The same all the time .. But when I listen to Dimash I hear , feel , live , and enjoy everything at the same time and I want to listen to him more and more . U made my day by ur opinion .. FINALLY I am smilling 😜😄.. Love and respect from Dubai ❤️ thank u ( sorry for my poor english)
agree with you.. Need music like dimash did
Totally agree, I feel all songs were always the same from all the others singers, until dimash cameto power :D, he can sing different songs and everything more, it never the same and we never know what next he will bring :)
Agree with you. After listening to him i do not want to listen to any other pop or hip hop artist. Love from Dubai too.
I feel that he is trying to be the “edgy” judge. But, like you said, the world has spoken and they (WE) absolutely love Dimash.
Ken, I love your on spot reactions to Dimash & I am very happy to have come across you. Some people may be able to sing the high notes & some people may be able to sing the low notes but to sing a whole song with all notes there is only Dimash who can sing it to perfection. That judge does not have a leg to stand on with his stupid explanation. He’s making a fool of himself. There is no comparison to Dimash who is absolutely the best singer in the world. We Dears do not have to know the language to fall in love with Dimash’s great heavenly voice & how he gets each & every song across to us. Elvis was King of rock, Michael Jackson was King of pop, B.B. King was King of the blues, James Brown was King of soul but Dimash is THE KING OF ALL THE GENRES & to mix it all up into his songs is PURE GENIUS. Thank you very much Ken. You are a brilliant man. Best wishes for a healthy & happy 2020 & beyond. Peace & Love from the great North Canada. 🇨🇦🤗🥰💥💥
Thanks, Nina.
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Ken, that’s exactly what I was saying!!!! The judges are NOT there to judge on “style”. There are so many amazing singers from all over the world singing different styles. It’s just so unprofessional and biased to not vote for someone due to their “style”. The judges should put aside their likes and bias and judge the contestants based on execution, level of difficulty, stage present, deliverance, technique etc. After all, it’s a competition. It’s kind of like telling Usain Bolt, “just because you can doesn’t mean you should” and he’s in a race. I understand that he is entitled to his professional opinion but his opinion doesn’t make sense and is very biased.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: there's nothing like hearing someone that REALLY knows what he is talking about. THANK YOU KEN.
Thanks for your honest comments! Very interesting perspective on how to judge a singer!
exactly! btw, the show is called the Worlds Best, not who is the most money producing future talent that this judge seems to be thinking about . Ken, have you already listened Dimashes Screaming video, where he uses more pop-style singing?
exactly Laura.Screaming is one of my favorites.Its a great song.
I think all judges must have OPEN MIND when they came to this show, so they must recognise and understand all kinds of interpretations, no matter if the judge is rock producer, or composer of pop music. And when Dave take judge of dancers, or acrobatics, how he do it? From rock and roll point of view? So, my opinion is that he can not be judge in this kind of competition, just on some show for rock and roll talents.
РУССКИЙ ПЕРЕВОД/RUSSIAN TRANSLATION, PART 2 (сокращенный, 2 часть):
Ответ Эринга: …я люблю в некоторой степени несовершенное исполнение. Многие люди в соцсетях критикуют меня, и их не интересует мое мнение, и я должен судить (по их мнению) размер таланта. Рискну ответить, что это невозможно и это весьма субъективное занятие. Нельзя судить в сфере искусства, как на экзамене по математике…..
Комментарий Тэмплина: Это не правда! И да, и нет! Поясню: давайте сравним с игрой в футбол - сколько голов забито и т.п. Конечно, МОЖНО, потому что есть система подсчета очков. НОТЫ!!! Оценить вокальную технику можно! (перечисляет нюансы, например, то, что певец берет C6 и т.д.…) Другое дело, нравится вам это или нет…и это уже дело вкуса - субъективная оценка! И это то, что называется мнением.
Ответ Эринга: …нет ничего верного или ошибочного.. Критика в искусстве субъективна по своей природе…
Комментарий Тэмплина: Это правда! (по поводу первой фразы). И снова о субъективности:в музыке 50 % - это сфера Творчества и 50% - сфера Мастерства. Сфера Творчества подобна белому листу, на котором можно рисовать красками что захочешь, и это субъективно. Но когда вы сочетаете техничность (Мастерство) с желанием творить, вы получаете во много крат больше возможностей творческого самовыражения. И эти два аспекта должны идти рука об руку. Это не одно и то же.
Ответ Эринга: …я люблю картины Марка Роско, хотя многим покажется, что это нагромождение цветов… комедии Билла Хикса, хотя там немало политики, я люблю «Нирвану», она изменила мою жизнь, хотя для многих это всего лишь истошные вопли. Если речь о выступлении Димаша на конкурсе World’s Best, я считаю, что оно было в некоторой степени избыточным. Оно напоминало выступление гитариста, который играет миллион нот в секунду…
Комментарий Тэмплина: Честно сказано!....Да, можно сыграть миллион нот…я, например, могу играть на гитаре очень бегло - посмотрите мои видео..и я согласен с тем, что Би Би Кинг играл одну ноту…играя одну ноту, можно сказать очень много…если говорить о барабанщиках, Джон Бонэм - один из моих любимых барабанщиков, и во многих случаях имеет смысл говорить о несыгранных им нотах, нежели о сыгранных. Пауза создавала некое пространство (имитирует игру на барабанах), и это было круче! Дэйв пытается сказать именно о такой паузе, и я с ним согласен, но опять же не стоит забывать, что мы на вокальном конкурсе, и этот парень (Димаш) пытается показать все, что умеет, он обязан это сделать по условиям конкурса……не ОДНУ НОТУ, а все свое мастерство, которое заставит жюри повернуться к нему и проголосовать за него! Итак, есть резон и в идее одной ноты, и в идее вокального конкурса, в котором надо побеждать!
Ответ Эринга: …(выступление) впечатляет, невероятно, что певец делает невозможное.. но для меня в музыке приемлем принцип «чем меньше, тем лучше» (говорит об одной ноте Би Би Кинга)….иногда эмоция рождается именно в паузе, и если нет этой паузы, то эмоция до меня не доходит.
Комментарий Тэмплина: Когда Димаш берет низкие ноты, он делает это очень страстно и отдается полностью пению, а когда он идет вверх, он начинает сражать публику наповал, демонстрируя технику - и то, и другое может не нравиться… это может раздражать, как куча нот одновременно или быстрая игра на гитаре…но это то, что Димаш должен делать по определению…немного нечестно судить певца по одному представлению, одной песне, и он не в клетке живет, чтобы сказать ему: "Эй, выходи, покажи, что умеешь, а мы тебе скажем, что мы от тебя хотим…"дайте Димашу свободу самовыражения, и он нас еще удивит…
Ответ Эринга:…если говорить о профессиональном мнении, то могу сказать, что на британском музыкальном рынке, где я работаю продюсером, у этого певца могут возникнуть сложности. В записи этот невероятный голос будет звучать как пятеро исполнителей и слушателей это может сбить с толку…
Комментарий Тэмплина: (с иронией и сомнением) Кто-то должен был предупредить Марайю Кэрри о подобном в начале ее карьеры…
Ответ Эринга:…и я с удовольствием отдал свой голос за Данелию, потому что у нее невероятный голос, который будет иметь успех на музыкальном рынке. Думаю через пару лет при правильном подборе песенного материала и правильном продюсировании, она станет суперзвездой. Скажу также, что страстность поклонников Димаша обрушилась на меня шквалом, и я получил от них в свой адрес весьма интересные и изысканные оскорбления. На самом деле, мне импонирует то, что его фанаты так нежны и преданы по отношению к нему…как в старые добрые времена…
Тэмплин: Закончим на этом… Все просто: покажите мне более техничного певца в мире! Покажите того, кто продемонстрирует интонацию, чувства, мощь, выносливость, о которых я говорил,…дети сегодня удивительные и лучший должен соответствовать! И пока что это Димаш! С удовольствием послушаю его новые композиции. (видимо, обращаясь к ученикам) Буду рад, если ваше знание английского и пение улучшится, и я не имею в виду бельканто, а современное звучание, в этом продюсер прав - трудно найти свою аудиторию, исполняя только бельканто, хотя, конечно, если вы будете выступать в сфере бельканто, то ваша карьера сложится великолепно. И да, если вы научитесь исполнять бельканто в современном звучании, черпая знания из разных источников…кстати, я использую бельканто в обучении. Это было мое мнение - мнение Кена Тэмплина. Храни вас Бог! Мир всем! Отключаю.
praenuntia спасибо 🙏🏻
Спасибо!
Благодарю Вас за то, что взяли на себя труд перевести это видео! Для многих это неоценимая услуга.
@@user-mj6ux6qd4s Димашу посвящается!) Я ведь тоже фанатка со сбитой кукушкой!)))
Спасибо!
I am not a musician, nor an amateur musician, I had a very rough 4 years battling with music studies. Not even my mother tongue is any of the 7 languages Dimash can sing. I live in south America, very far from the music main stream. What I much appreciate from Dimash is that he is not influenced by producers, nor the market. With his own production company he can do whatever he feels. Mr Eringa has his point of view about the marketability of Dimash singing performance for the western taste. I am pretty sure Dimash is making his own path. Would it be possible to do in any western gala what he did in the EMI GALA? To honor his grandma in the stage?
I am not a singer and a voice vocal teacher...I am here to voice out my opinion about Dimash...I came from the Philippines and the world knows that filipinos are known for being a good singer even without a proper training,we are known for our passion in singing and a daily practices helps improved our vocal chords, I have a very good ear and I can hear if a person can really sing or not,everyone does it who loves music... the first time I heard Dimash,I was really blown away by his style of singing...his fantastic acrobatic vocal range is phenomenal...he sings from the heart and hes a true artist because he play with his music,he portrays and gave life to his music,his body action,his love and passion came from the core of his HEART...I dont think he just want to impress the judges,of course hes in a competition,he should impress the judges...who doesn't did it when you're in front of them?
he should proved what he can do ,remember its a "World Best Competition"...he's grandma took him to a voice lesson when he was 5 and by a rigid training and coaching he was able to expertised hes field,he's able to master the task given ,he's the director,actor and singer of the band...for me,he's a true performer from a to z . About the TNT Boys,I am so proud of them at their young ages...I love them so much and who may ever won the Title World Best deserves it...and I wish them all the best!
I agree with you. I also don't think the show is being fair to the watching public. They want to showcase the talents of these competitors but then decide to cut most of the performance out? The full performances are more important than what some lame judge thinks of it afterwards. How can a viewer decide if they want more of him if they can't see his whole performance? This show is so stupid.
Totally, totally agree with you Ken.
Eringa thinks DIMASH would find it hard to, 'get on' in the UK???
Really!
DIMASHs sold out within days of his London O2 concert.
I couldn't get ANY tickets because so many people travelled from other countries desperate to see DIMASH live they sold like hot cakes.
James Corden said it best to Eringa:
SHAME. SHAME. SHAME. SHAME. SHAME and I for one agree!!!
Eringa, DOES NOT in our eyes, represent the general consensus of the GB public.
Who on earth gave Eringa the GB job in the first place???
Boy did they get it WRONG!!!
I'd rather have Simon Cowell at least he appreciates TALENT whether it's his cup of tea or not.
And I'm not a huge fan of Simon Cowell.
Send Eringa home.
LoL!!! Yeah, can TWB swap out Eringa for Simon Cowell PLEASE! This guy is tone deaf and he sucks!
Are you sure Simon Cowell will like this guy? Simon has criticised many technical perfection singers too. As he sells pop records. It takes more than technical perfection and range.
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💙 glad you agree too. DIMASH deserved better...
100%
James Corden said it best...Shame Shame Shame.
Simon Cowell isn't my favourite choice of judge but I bet he'd have seen DIMASHs TALENT after all he did vote 👍for Susan Boyle and I don't think it was for her looks🥴
Lol D.
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Hi.
Simon Cowell voted 👍for Susan Boyle and it wasn't for her looks.
Eringas a fool he doesn't speak for the majority of the GB public.
DIMASH has a global following...I think that says a lot too.
Thanks for your comment 😊
ps I'm Scottish and a huge Metallica fan so:-
Eringa 🤜🤬🤛
SORTED!!! 🤕
Tu crees que Dimash necesita de a los britanicos cuando solo en China cuenta con 1.400 millones de seguidores,mas otros miles de millones por el mundo,piensalo,porque el no se va a dejar manejar por ninguna productora musical para que le imponga otro estilo,el canta lo que le da la gana,porque puede permitirselo.
Я тоже люблю рок,но Димаша с удовольствием слушаю
УВАЖАЕМЫЕ знатоки английского языка! Сделайте перевод, ПОЖАЛУЙСТА! Очень интересны аргументы данного судьи, проголосовавшего против Димаша! Я думаю, ВСЕМ поклонникам Димаша будет интересно услышать "оправдательную речь" "судьи"
Перевод есть чуть выше вашего комментария
Hey Ken. Im your fan! Thanks for professional and personal incentives ! Please react on Dimashe's "Late Autnum" and break it down for us. This song showcases much more technique and feeling than almost any other song of Dimash.
Thank you.I'm so glad you brought this up.I think many have been very frustrated of this guy's statements,me included.
They call him the six octave man,for crying out loud...and it's a singing competition😰😁
Maybe he will change his mind later on😎
He he..yes...
Thank you, Ken. You’re so professional! Thank you for your explanation.
Я так считаю,если что-то в исполнении Димашем не понравилось,значит он не увидел его талант,это ещё один минус вокалисту ,который делает реакцию,он должен был определить суперспособности Димаша..он ещё наверно не слышал Олимпико,или принципиально не смотрит Димаша
World Best should have you as a judge.
РУССКИЙ ПЕРЕВОД/RUSSIAN TRANSLATION, PART 1(сокращенный, 1 часть):
Всем здравствуйте!
И снова Вокальная Академия Кена Тэмплина, в которой мастерство пения превыше всего. Я продолжаю анализ видео с Димашем и перехожу к видео конкурса World’s Best, а именно той части, где Дэйв Эринга (Д.Э.) дает комментарии, и собираюсь дать свои комментарии в надежде, что они будут вам полезны, друзья. Итак, смотрим…(ведущий конкурса Джеймc Корден спрашивает Эринга: «Вы музыкальный продюсер…чего вам не хватило?...певец был великолепен…». Ответ продюсера: «Ощущение такое, что если даже ты можешь все, это все не должно присутствовать в одном выступлении».) Я готов прокомментировать сразу же…прежде всего, мне понравился взгляд Кордена…типа, не понял о чем это???))) (корчит гримасу). Ну, если вы умеете быстро бегать, это не значит, что это нужно делать!))) (шутит). Суть в том, и я говорил это в предыдущих видео, что Димашу присуща оперная манера исполнения бельканто (техника виртуозного пения - мое примечание), но я предлагаю задуматься вот о чем - Димаш участвует в большом телевизионном шоу, и у него трудная задача - продемонстрировать свою вокальную подготовку, все свое мастерство, он должен произвести впечатление на судей, и если он при этом поет в нижнем или среднем регистре, то есть выдает стандарт, то поразить судей и публику не получится. У этой медали две стороны, и я готов пояснить: Боб Дилан, пожалуй, один из величайших и влиятельных авторов-исполнителей за последние 50 лет с лишним лет.... случись ему выйти на сцену такого конкурса со своей манерой исполнения, он бы провалился, да, ему бы вероятно и не дали выступить в таком конкурсе, ибо никто бы не оценил его артистическую манеру. Все это так, но, в данном случае, это непосредственная обязанность Димаша продемонстрировать все, на что он способен, вплоть до эпатажа, ради того, чтобы произвести впечатление. И стопроцентное попадание состоит в том, что публика не скрывает восхищения, а певец добивается этого, демонстрируя высокие ноты, стиль, мелизмы и проч….продолжим…(восхищается Дрю Бэрримор и говорит о личном знакомстве с ней… далее фрагмент шоу, в котором все стыдят продюсера…далее слова представительницы Казахстана, Гаухар Нуртас, о том, что она спросила Эринга на этом шоу, почему он не проголосовал за Димаша и проголосовал за Данелию).
Ответ Эринга: Я собираюсь прокомментировать свое голосование: меня спрашивают, почему я не проголосовал за Димаша и проголосовал за Данелию.. я не голосовал против…..
Комментарий Тэмплина: Здесь и далее своего рода оправдание, но не будем забывать, что это личное мнение этого человека, и каждый из нас имеет право на собственное мнение, это его «очки» сквозь которые он смотрит на мир и музыку…
Ответ Эринга: Перед началом шоу нам сообщили, что при голосовании мы вправе выражать свое личное и профессиональное мнение.. я начну с личного: я из среды рок и панк-музыкантов, музыкальный продюсер, поэтому, безусловно, я люблю более рваное, резкое исполнение…
Комментарий Тэмплина: Давайте обсудим, ибо это важно для меня. Мне это близко, ибо я сам рок-музыкант и люблю подобное исполнение, и да, у меня вышло 40 дисков и сотни моих песен…вы можете погуглить и уточнить (перечисляет свои достижения)….и у меня есть опыт, когда твои песни в стиле хард-рок анализируют джазовые критики или редакторы…ой, никогда так не делайте - не просите давать отзыв на хард-рок джазового исполнителя и наоборот…им это не понравится!!!))), словом, не просите рок-музыканта оценить оперную манеру пения бельканто, поскольку его сфера рок и панк. Я мало знал о Д.Э. и почерпнул информацию о нем в Википедии….я считаю, что суждение о ком-то должно быть честной и открытой игрой, судите меня по всем пунктам - мой голос, записи, мои профессиональные качества и т.п., мнение мнению рознь, и это крайне важно. Я нашел видео исполнителя, Manic Street Preachers, который записал 9 дисков с Д.Э., и выложу ссылку на него в комментариях для вас, друзья, чтобы вы могли ознакомиться с деятельностью этого музыкального продюсера и могли оценить его суждения о выступлении Димаша. Он также создал группу Idlywild и выпустил 4 альбома…это много…словом, у вас есть возможность в полной мере оценить творчество Д.Э. Он работал с Кайли Миноуг (называет песню), но при этом количество просмотров не превысило двух миллионов просмотров, даже несмотря на масштаб звезды. Димаш набрал такое количество просмотров несравнимо быстрее (не будем это сбрасывать со счетов). Дэйв работал с певцом Роджером Долтри в 2018, и мне понравился его альбом, количество просмотров составило только 165 тысяч, к сожалению, поскольку Долтри - известный вокалист английской группы The Who, а это была одна из моих любимых групп…и, да, он мультиплатиновый продюсер, и это прекрасно!....Я призываю рассуждать в контексте, как и предлагает Дэйв. И я за открытость в обсуждении моего и любого другого творчества (перечисляет критерии: записи, гастроли, преподавание……). В связи с этим, мнение Дэйва заслуживает уважения, и не стоит забывать о том, что этот продюсер получил высокий статус судьи такого солидного шоу!
praenuntia спасибо 🙏🏻
Спасибо за перевод!!!
Too long but unfortunately we cannot understand you..
@@samutsarixyz I think it has nothing to do with you..'long' or 'short', 'fortunately' or 'unfortunately'.
👍👍👍👏👏👏👍👍👍👏👏👏Every singer can be played by someone else, but no one can cover Dimash's performances. If someone shows me a man, who can sing better than Dimash, or at least as good as he is, then I will give up on Dimash. Is there anyone else, who can combine his perfect vocal craftsmanship, unlimited voice capabilities, the unique arrangements he makes, stage behavior and passion, and charm and charisma? You do not need to know the language, to feel the emotions which Dimash injects you, with his performance.
Valya Todorova There was a hispanic girl who covered Dimash’s version of SOS (it was in the video’s title), while she was ok, sometimes great, her high notes all felt like shouting and screechy... If she had did the original version I think she would have covered it AMAZINGLY!! So I see what you are saying..
Are you referring to his originals? If it's not in English, then I won't be able to connect to the songs at all. Or feel anything about it when I don't understand what he is singing about. So far, he is doing very badly with English songs. Perhaps because it's not his first language and cannot connect with English songs. Definitely he doesn't sound anywhere close to all those things you described in World's Best.
who would want to cover dimash song? his voice is something else, impressive and very rare...but i cannot stand listening that kind of music...
The best judge is the public, and the public love Dimasch ;-).
Very interesting to listen to a professional reviewing another professional. :D
As someone who only LISTEN to Music I often feel unequipped to even have an opinion on what is 'good' or 'bad' Music... and when a person who has Music as their profession says something isn't very good… well, it can make me wonder. (Not that I for a nanosecond felt anything other than admiration for Dimash's singing, he's just awsome.) It can however give the nay-sayers fuel to their fires. (Can't for the Life of me understand why people who don't like a particular artist still bother following said artist's videos and leave negative comments… just go listen to whatever you DO like for heaven's sake.)
Anyway. Thank you for this educational video. I atleast learned a few things.
This constructive criticism is sooo on point. I love it. I hope dimash saw this. This vid will be his edge to win the competition. Take care always ken! 😍
unfortunately, the show is prerecorded, so the winner is known for those who partisipated in the world's best
Congrats Ken. You are just and I love your reactions. Peace from Portugal
I like your comment fair and objective. you are an honest person that can accept weaknesses and excellent as well.
I do agree to you. Thanks a lot for explanation and commenting about Dimash. Appreciated.
The Fifth Element meets the 2001 Space Odyssey Monolith.
Crouching Tiger meets the Hidden Dragon.
T. A. Kh.
Angelic voice knocks on Heaven’s door and tears my soul to “Fine” shreds.
Rose of Kazakhstan.
God Bless and Keep Dimash Qudaibergen.
Blessings to his family and Kazakhstan, all his teachers and guides and all those who had a hand in developing this Brilliant Emerald, Much Love to you all.
Special Thanks to China.
Rock on!
ken, you should be a judge at world’s best
Ken, you do not look old enough to be so wise.
Thanks for your balanced insightful thoughts. I am learning and its great.
As a musician love your reactions/analysis man!!
Please do more:-)
Dimash just 24. He studies very hard on his voice. He is already great singer. He will be better.
Oh Ken. I love how you summarises it. Let Dave show us a better overall singer or vocalist than Dimash. Thanks Ken for your very sincere analysis.
RANGE+ORIGINAL VOICE+PASSION + HONESTY = AMAZING!!! There is no way who can superate!
Unfortunately these types of judges can mar an artist's career if it were not for Dimash's more than considerable vocal abilities.Though the art up for review is not of his idealism it's art for art's sake and should be judged as such.The goal should be to listen without prejudice.This should be the skill of a great critic.Thanks for sharing your views and the dissection of the critics views as well Ken.
I agree with you.... Dimash have to show what he is capable to do with his voice in the short time he has... Besides, why give to muhc attention to this record producer? You know how many GREAT and LEGENDARY singers, songwriters, artists and bands were rejected by "record producers"?
I did look you up, and you are really a beautiful singer...My brother, Robin McNamara also has a beautiful voice and made a record in the 70's called, Lay a Little Lovin On Me. He was in HAIR and played lead, Claude. As far as Dimash is concern...I'm addicted to him...He almost feels angelic and soothes my spirit with his high notes and lyrics. I am 73 years old. I also was in the music industry, as a dancer in my youth. I was never into classical or Opera until Dimash...but now it's like I just can't get enough....My daughter is pictured here...I am Mary Ciraso McNamara...And again...you have a BEAUTIFUL voice and you speak very eloquently!
KEN TAMPLIN
Everything you do is spot on! I learned alot from you! God Bless You!
Fantastic. I agree with you on everything you said. Let us find someone who can do like Dimash. 😄 I will post your reaction to our fan club.
DKIFC/sLOVEnia
Hi Ken, I appreciate your reaction and evaluation of Dimash and the judging issue. As you pointed out that Dimash is still very young and is growing into his vocal skill. I started watching the show "The Singer" around the 3 or 4th week of the Chinese show and yes, his English needed some work. What won me over, was his technical skill, power and passion that he sings with.
Now, approximately 2 years later, his English has improved greatly since "The Singer" show and will continue to improve with all the hard work he is doing. Apparently, he is studying English and Mandarin so those who have issue with his language skills just don't understand the hard work he puts into bring all of it together. You are correct and we just need to give him the time to get there. How many superstar singers is trying to do what he is doing? Taking over the world takes times and he has many years a head of him to accomplish this goal.
If you go back and watch Dimash dance to Michael Jackson, you would see that he wasn't a great MJ dancer but he is determine to accomplish a level of dancing like MJ without fear...and he has gotten so much better.
This is the key to Dimash...he has no fear and is singularly focus on being the absolutely best that he can be. This is what I believe amazes Dimash's fans. We all know he isn't perfect but we see the ultimate potential he has and we all want to watch him grow into this superstar that has never been approached by anyone before him. I guess this is the "Glass half full" vs "Glass half empty" view point. It is easy to be negative. It doesn't require much thought or effort.
Ken, I am glad I came across your channel and see your own talent and enjoy hearing you discussing Dimash in breaking down how and why Dimash sings the way he does and I hope Dimash hears some of your words. I also believe your thoughts on those warmer tones would help a lot. We all are wanting him to work towards that vocal perfection.
thank you Ken for that video, it was really great of you to make it so that people would understand more about music as art, I totally agree, Dimash was invited to this show and given this nickname for a specific reason, so it was strange for me to hear Dave comment on Di's abilities in such a way
Thanks for your review on this Judge on his decision not to vote for Dimash! I'm a 63 year old Canadian lady and a big fan of Dimash. We "dears" cannot wait for a Dimash CD!!! One can just close their eyes, not understand one word of a song that D sings, and his songs go straight to the heart. Not only is D super talented he's humble and dedicated to bringing peace and love to the world through his songs!
I wish i could have "like" this video 100 times, not only 1.
Thanks, deju x!
What a good guy are you!!! Its seems that you lean more than singing in your life!!!! So humble!!! Nice to hear you.
Thanks Edith!
Ken Tamplin, you are the best.
Thanks Martin!
KEN TAMPLIN
I love your drum beats,awesome! Since, I have played drums and I understand.
Ken I am absolutely agree with you. We know Dimash , we can hear him , see him over and over again and always he makes us feel the same , he makes us feel that he is *The Best* . Thank you for the vídeo, Kisses and Hugs From The Green Cost of Lima - Perú.
You are absolutely right! Talent, control, range, passion, all that can be objectively judged. I'm not into jazz, but as someone who's dabbled in singing and playing piano, I am in awe of the skills many jazz musicians have just to name an example. If you can't judge objectively and if you don't understand what the show is about, maybe this isn't the panel for you. That's what I have to say about this guy.
Thank you always enjoy your commentary on Dimash
I appreciate that!
Thank you for that very insightful comments.You hit the nail right on the head of Dave Enringa. It's a competition and the time given was very short. Dimash was branded as the 6 octave man. He has to show those in 2 minutes. Only a true singer with high vocal capability like you will understand how difficult it is. I am one of your countless followers.
That is exactly right. He IS branded as the 6 Octave Man. Now he has to shove all 6 octaves in a tiny window of time.
You're great Ken. You're established, honest and not bias. Great reviews always.
redtesta Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate them!
Wow, great video. Fantastic information and ability to get points and information across. You are also a fantastic speaker along with your singing, musical, and instrumental skills.
I really appreciated your insight. You provide much more analysis than the vast majority of other vocal coaches. Thanks!
Dimash the great. Hands down.. This is competition and Dimash is given name as '6 Octave Man'. So for sure Dimash will show every judge what is he capable off.. If Dimash only sing in 1note, everybody will ask, where is the 5 octave go? 😂 okay Ken i wish i can learn singing from you.. You're great vocal coach with an amazing singing skills. Hands down to you to. Salute!
Totally agree. You CAN judge vocal ability by notes and technical ability. Great video. Thanks for posting.
Ken Tamplin is on point. Dave needs to sit down.
Whatever you guys )judges say) Dimash is the best in the world!
Ken you are a great man, goodhearted and with knowledge.
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