Squire makes an affordable jazzmaster with an unplayable bridge that doesn’t come w an Allen key And everyone’s just cool with it ‘ oh yeah by the way you will need to spend 300 extra dollars to get a functioning bridge just to play it.. It comes on the custo shop fenders but not these ‘ So it isn’t really an affordable guitar then. Ditch the strings, ditch the bridge, by some shims, bridge, new strings and tools and spend money on over seas sipping and wait to get all the parts so you can then work on it for several hours before you can play it. May as well just buy a fender custom shop guitar. And they know it’s a problem and troll you by making a great bridge that’s only available on a custom shop model Pretty fucked up
Fuzzman definitely earns the title “Lord” because this is the ULTIMATE guide to bridges. Thanks for the cons section of each because I never see these anywhere! Long live the Fuzzman! 🤟🏽
I can't hear any big difference in tone and certainly none of the reputed improved sustain from the Mastery. Great video - informative and well put together.
I own a Classic Player Jazzmaster (Mexico) and, based on this video, I just purchased a Halon bridge. The original Fender bridge was like a toy compared to the substantial metal on this beast. OMG. So easy to set the height and intonation and the tone is huge and rings forever. Haris at Halon was very helpful and extremely fast with email replies. BUT the posts on the Halon were slightly larger in diameter than the thimbles on my MIM JM. Lucky for me I own a drill press. I screwed the posts off the bridge and inserted them in my drill press chuck (one at a time) and turned set the drill press to 1700rpms (my drill has an rpm readout). i took a file to the side of the posts while they were turning and filed them down to the correct diameter so they just fit the thimbles. It took about 20mins per post due to my constant testing and quality of the steel posts. Perfect fit. I considered drilling out the thimbles but i didn't think there was enough sidewall on them and didn't want to mess with enlarging the thimble holes on the guitar. I considered the mastery bridge but they looked a little weird for my taste.
Staytrem is fantastic, paired with a shim on my Avri 65 Jag it has perfect intonation, comfortable string spacing and requires no maintenance. Combined with the shim I'd say it enhances the classic Jag sound without drastically changing it.. exactly what I was looking for. Staytrem is also durable used mine regularly over the past few years with no issues. Staytrem collet and trem arm are also really good.
That custom shop bridge is the winner for me, it seems to have a fuller sound, sustains nicely and looks the business. The weakest was the vintage. Whether any of this would be noticeable in a band mix is debatable. If I could get the custom shop one as an after market upgrade (and it wasn't too expensive) I'd be all over it. However, on balance and as a UK resident, the Staytrem would be my go to. Great video, nicely paced and with all the information you'd ever need, IMO.
In my opinion, the tone of the vintage style bridge is the best. It's definitely bright and clear. I think my second favorite is the Staytrem though. Seems like a good value and fixes the problems with the vintage style. Unfortunately, I think the tone is a bit darker on the Staytrem though. I really wanted to like the mastery, but I just can't seem to get behind the tone of it.
Agreed! I just invested $220 usd in a mastery for my '96 MIJ JM . I was shocked by this comparison- the mastery seemed to be the thinnest sounding, next to the vintage- for my ear- but also comparison varied to some degree, respectively, as he toggled through pickup settings 🤷🏻♂️
Great information supplied here. To my ears the Halon and Fender RSD sound superior to the other options. Thanks for the work you have done here! You earned a new subscriber
Yeah I do have a descendent vibrato from Chris which is fantastic. I must get around to doing a video on it. Haven’t had one of his bridges yet though. 👌
Excellent video. The only one i felt was significantly different was the vintage style, which sounded a bit thinner. The others all sounded very similar, and i suspect than any differences would be overwhelmed by playing dynamics.
This was super helpful in my decision on which bridge I want. I really like the custom shop bridge, but because of lack of availability I might need to check out the halon because that seems like the next best option. Thank you for this awesome comparison video!
I checked out the new RSD bridge from Fender Custom Shop and it's really exciting. One of the best things they're ever done, in fact. It's too bad that they aren't selling it as an aftermarket part because they would sell a lot of them. They're using the RSD as a feature selling point exclusively on CS guitars. I don't really agree with that strategy as I would think Fender would want to get the RSD to as many non-CS players as possible.
Best comparison vid I've seen. Great job! My thoughts after viewing this a few times: The vintage sounds best. Staytrem second. Mastery third. Custom fourth. Mustang fifth. Halon last. Very interesting. 🤔
Best video out here providing information. Mustang bridge on my Squire Jaguar is dropping on high e side and choking out strings. Unplayable. I didn’t know there was a shit ton of bridge issues on these guitars. They didn’t tell me this at the music store. Guess I’ll be investing in a Staytrem
Bought my MIJ lefty JM about 5+ years ago. Out of the box whenever I leaned over to check pedals etc the bar would fall out of it's hole. Plus it went out of tune after divebomb. So I got a mastery set. Absolutely solid as a rock now.
Thanks for this and the work you put in for this. I have ordered a Staytrem for my Squier Classic Vibe Bass VI and this just reassured my decision. I'm in the US and am so grateful that John ships to us now....
I had a cheap tunomatic style bridge with roller saddles on it, which happened to drop right into the existing holes of my Fender Japanese Traditional Jaguar. The radius is "wrong" but it doesn't pose any problems for me at all. I actually think it has improved the tone a bit too. Not bad for free (seeing as I already had it lying about).
Been playing jaguars since they were cheap. I paid 184 bucks for my bascket case 64 and like 900 for my clean 63. Anyways i used a stock bridge for years i later picked up a no wire abr1 when gibson custom shop started making them. I made aluminum slugs that dont rock threaded for the abr1 post threads. I also play giant fat necks by warmoth on both my vintage jags and they are 12 inch radius which matches my bridge radius. I play jags for the 24 inch scale not so much the tone . So my 64 has burst buckers and my 63 has the stock single coils but wired more regular style just on off switch for each. This was a great video. I love talking jags. Really digging the halo. Although im not planning on switching my bridges. I pound the shit outa my guitars and they are solid.
I got today a Mastery bridge for my MIJ Jazzmaster, and so far I am super impressed by the improvement in tuning stability and sonical resonance/sustain of the guitar! I didn't consider other options also because of covid/shipping issues. So I had to get what I was able to find between my nation boarders. Also the setup was really quick and easy, and was able to tune and set the intonation properly.
@@JoelGilardini The vibrato is also pretty great. I like how the collet is a better design that seems more solid when using the vibrato arm. I also like how there's no locking button...I never used it when I had one on the stock Fender unit and it simplifies it.
Thanks for making this man! I've been going back and forth on getting a Mastery for like 15 years now and kick myself for not buying one at $75 back when I had the chance. This side by side comparison made it clear to me the Mastery is actually the worst option for what I want out of it. And aside from its drawbacks, the Mastery was the only one that drastically changed the tone in a negative way (to my ear at least). Really well done video 👍
The vintage style is a winner for me. The aggressiveness and instability on the strings provides a sound no other one can offer. If set up properly, which is rarely the case.
amazingly informative video - thank you! I must admit, I've used a staytrem on my old jaguar and now on my Jazzmaster and couldn't be happier. Lots of great bridge options but that one definitely works for me and hasn't given me a problem in 10 years of combined use. That said if one day the dream custom shop jazzmaster happens and has the RSD bridge I won't complain ;)!!
Hats of to this man! This was a lot of work changing all those bridges. To quote Evil Roy Slade, “He has a stick with it quality you can’t help but admire “ 👍☮️
I got a Staytrem bridge shortly before they stopping shipping outside the UK. It’s a fantastic bridge and I’m happy to say that I’ve never had a problem with it. 10/10 recommend if you can find one.
The CS is louder for sure (pickup height or dynamics of the picking hand?), but there's less note seperation than the Mastery. Also more low end and high end content than the Mastery, whereas the Mastery is more focussed. To me, the CS bridge is kind of like an Ash body - more highs and lows with less in the upper mids, whereas the Mastery is more like alder - more focus and upper midrange, and just a more balanced tone overall. But I think any of these bridges can work, just depends upon your flavour!
Hands down best video on this topic!!! Yes, definitely can hear the difference. Staytrem and Mastery sound nearly identical. Vintage is most twang and brightest, Mustang 2nd brightest, both the Custom Shop and Halon have a sweet buttery tone. Tough decisions!!! But for me, I think I need the right pickups 1st. Certainly correct break angle over the bridge is key to no buzzing and best tone. I had to shim my custom build to get the correct height / angle. My instrument is a bit too changy, not exactly twangy. So, I may need a brass solution. I may go for building my own.... 😱😱😱
Amazing comparison accurate much information. I want my Halon now.. very defined and sweet at the same time.. I liked the vintage too... lofi and sweet
Update for anyone seeing this video now: Staytrem do ship overseas now. I’m receiving mine tomorrow in the US! Very excited. Thanks for this video as it made my decision easy. The best imo was the custom shop, but I distinctly heard overtones from both it and the Staytrem that were very pleasing to the ear.
I needed a .1 shim to get the set up I needed with the Fender Pro bridge. I did indeed get the perfect action with no issues, except the break angle was so extreme it made the string tension impossible for whole step bends. The Mastery bridge solved that, and turns out to be perfect for me. And I love the way it sounds with my rig.
That Halon sounds remarkably "flat", or full spectrum. It reminds me of studio monitors: they aren't exciting, but that's because nothing is missing- no notches or surprises. I know which I'd splash out on for a new build for sure. That said, my current offset crop (3) use variations of the "proper" Mustang bridge and the American Professional with and without nylon bushings (rocking and non-rocking). They're relatively inexpensive, relatively high quality, and once properly shimmed at the neck and set up (1x Descendant, 2x AVRI trems) absolutely flawless with regular 'ol 10s.
Building a Jazzmaster and wanted to get a Staytrem but being in the US, it just wasn't a great option unfortunately. So I went with Mastery...not gonna complain in the slightest about that though. Never had heard of Halon until now, definitely something to look into for the next build ;)
Vintage style worked great on my AV65, think the neck pocket is angled but never gave me an issue. Swapped to a Mastery and it’s much more difficult to set up and dial in intonation but unplugged definitely sounds louder to my ears. Helps for getting overtones behind the bridge which is why I love it
Thanks for the video man ! You made me go for the Halon MS58 Brass bridge. Hope it will be a perfect fit with the Cecca futur rage pickups. Have you made a video about the jalon jazzmaster tremolo ?
Was going back and forth on mastery or staytrem. Read the forums and all pros and cons, but this video solidified my staytrem purchase. Just ordered. Now a mastery tremolo unit and a staytrem bridge that rocks may be something awesome though.
@@LordFuzzman I got both units ordered. Might be some time until I see them, but not in a rush. My stupid fender tremolo (really vibrato but whatever) doesn't completely return to it's original position after use which I have never seen before. Mastery should take care of that. I find it odd that mastery pretty much tells you to leave the arm in at all times though and will refuse to sell a replacement if arm is lost.
@@LordFuzzman a real pleasure Fuzzman. This video is seriously amazing and super high quality. You made things very clear and got me to stop wading through all the forums and noise with some very true and straightforward comparisons. Also, with my open back headphones on, the sound quality of the video itself really helped make certain observations pretty apparent. Much appreciated!
Excellent review! Just a shame it didn't include wangy bar use! They were all an improvement on the vintage bridge. The staytrem wins for me for value for money tho I prefer the wider string spacing. 👍
Huge help! Thanks for taking the time and trouble to do this. I'm thinking about a Custom Shop Mustang, so I can get the RSD bridge which is very appealing but this video shows (at least to my ears) that a regular Mustang bridge could actually be preferable because it offers individual string adjustment which I really need with heavy strings and wound third. Thanks again.
@@LordFuzzman SO very true! I am now questioning myself about how crucial is it to me to have individual string adjustment? With a heavy set, 52-12 with wound third, maybe the RSD is perfect as-is? The only chance I'll have to find out is ordering one through the Custom Shop but I would sure hate to get it wrong and find out that I really needed the adjustment and have a much cheaper unit with the Mustang conventional bridge. I have that on 3 guitars from the Parallel Universe series already so I'm tempted to try the RSD but it's still something of a risk.
My preference goes to Halon & the mustang bridge. They both have a clarity to them that is absolutely nice to hear (the Halon overdriven is slightly darker than the mustang but still clear). I do like the Staytrem in the video, & have been thinking of getting it for my own jazzmaster guitar build, but i think i'm leaning towards Halon options instead of the Staytrem mainly for clarity sake, & Halon offers that fine tuning in allows used so each bridge is unique really to each player.
@@LordFuzzman If you had to choose one for a "do it all" Jazzmaster, what would be your pick objectively? I've been using the Staytrem for nearly five years, the Mastery has always tempted and I may purchase one.
Excellent video! Thanks for posting this! I could hear a slight difference with the Mastery and Vintage bridge. They seemed a tad brighter on the clean tones but everyone’s ears will be different.
The custom shop bridge sounds louder than the rest. None of them are bad, and there's not that much difference to worry about, but if it was me, I'd go for the Halon.
OMG, night and day with the Custom Shop Bridge. I think the Mustang is the runner up for me. Just like PRS will use brass tuning pegs and saddles to get more chime, this made it clear to me that brass saddles really make a difference. More bell like, for sure. Clear as day. I think it would be the difference between cutting through a mix (especially live when you have less control over your mix) and disappearing. *Granted, if you're in a shoegaze band, single notes cutting through vs having a homogenous wall of sound might make you want to stick with a stock bridge.
Thanks for making this comparison. I hope it will set things right for all those who are preferring one of these bridges without knowing the effect on sound, playability and their money spent. I subscribed, BTW. 😀
Thanks for all the info and sound samples! Sounds like something happened in the last example. The Staytrem sounds like it was played in the middle position and the Halon sounded like the tone or volume pot was turned down slightly.
We must be the only people I. The world with sensitive hands! I’ve been talking about this for six months and no one else ever responds or has mentioned the sharp edges hurting their palms during muting. It’s a HUGE deal to me, since it makes playing a lot more difficult when your have to wrap your hand in bandages. For this reason I replaced my tune-o-magic bridge with a roller bridge (yeah, that’s a great solution on LP style guitars. After researching which offset guitar to get for months, the RUclips algorithm finally brought me here... :-)
Great video! I play a bigsby Tele, so all this is kind of relevant to us too. I use the vintage style JM bridge, but I think the bigsby adds a bit more break angle. I use some nylon/plastic strips cut to size which I insert into the post holes which reduce the amount the bridge can rock, without locking it completely.
now that i have the comparisson.i knew theres something not sounding right with my jazzmaster and mustang bridge,especially in the neck.i dont even start about the sustain :D. thanks for showing all these alternatives :)
I've just asked they can do rocking and non rocking versions but said the cover probably won't fit .....they didn't mention the mute but the more I think about it it would probably work ......shame I think I will stick to the stay trem I know the mute and the cover work with it ........
I want a Halon for my Ultra Luxe Strat. I told them I hate the plastic knob on the end of tremolo arms and asked if they wouldn't mind not threading the end of the arm and not putting the plastic knob on it, and they said that won't be a problem. They're cool. They sound incredible, as I saw on another shoot out video you did. Can you do a Strat bridge shootout some time? Would love to see how they stack up against the rest.
Really nice video. I definitely hear a difference, with the custom shop and mastery sounding much better than the others. Oddly, there’s something about the mustang that time travels backwards. I believe it is a certain blend of distorted frequencies that signify a “classic sound”. Does anyone else hear or feel that? Or, is this one of those generation gaps? (Understanding that the term “generation gap” is equally vintage and distorted). In other words, I can hear a familiarity with the mustang that emulates ‘60’s or ‘70’s guitar. I find this to be unexpected, and interesting. This leaves three choices: 1) Keep it vintage 2) buy a custom shop or 3) mastery, in no certain order. I think a newer guitar might benefit most from a mastery upgrade.
Wow, I think this is one of the coolest gear videos I’ve seen in a long time. I bought my mastery bridge a long time ago when they were the only alternative bridge besides the mustang. I don’t think Staytrem was around yet. I’m still happy with mine. I love the way the string vibrations feel across the body with it. As far as vibrato arm solutions go, however, Staytrem absolutely crushes it
I think it should be mentioned that Halon offers rocking bridge studs, besides keeping with Leo's original design, if you have a mute on on your Jag, and you want to use a Mastery, you'll have to drill out the holes in you mute to make it work, the Halon rocking studs work fine with a mute, they fit fine into the mute holes.
The vintage is fine! Just use heavier strings and the right setup no need to change it - I did like the resonance the halon had but it had less upper high end detail - the mustang and staytrem seemed to choke the sustain a little and made it more ploddy- the mastery did have a nice open ish sound to it - and I love the idea and look of the CS in all honesty I have no issues with my vintage style one I think I’ll keep it as is :)
Exactly what I think. My favorites were the vintage and mastery by far. I have the mustang, and I think it sounds awful. The Staytrem is pretty nice, but not enough clarity and overtones. I actually just don't like adjusting the individual saddles which is why I replaced it with the Mustang, but I really don't enjoy it so I think I'll just deal with the Vintage or maybe get a Mastery.
I just received my staytrem bridge. What a difference it was compare to mastery. Great tuning stability and smoother feel when using tremolo. I think it darken a tone a little bit which i think is good especially with 1 meg pot.
@@LordFuzzman Yes..definitely the hype. I'll put it up for sale to fund the mastery vibrato. What's your opinion on their vibrato compare to avri? Btw thanks man for this great comparison video.
This is such a great video and very helpful, thank you! Am looking to upgrade my MIJ Jazzmaster. Unfortunately I like the Custom Shop one the best😅 The Staytrem is also nice. The Mastery has really nice overtones, but I won’t let anything on my JM that looks like braces. The Vintage Style is the one where you can definitely tell that the bridge impacts the sound. The one with the least sustain, that one.
Great review. I have tried the stock, the mustang, the Staytrem and the RSD. Out of those I prefer the RSD, with the Staytrem a close second. But the RSD most certainly is a rocking bridge, however its rocking range is a bit less than the other rocking bridges.
@@LordFuzzman I do still have it, it’s my fave guitar. It’s a Custom Shop Wildwood 10 - special run made for Wildwood Guitars, and that RSD does rock! The suggestion appears to be that Fender has made rocking and non Rocking RSDs. As a matter of fact mine has little ridges perpendicular to the strings, in the saddle string slots, that fix the strings, especially the wound ones, in place, so that when the bridge rocks the strings don’t slip across the saddles.
@@bcjaliu that’s really interesting, thanks for the info. I’m glad they are doing a rocking option too. It wouldn’t make sense not too after all these years 👌
Update!!! Staytrem now ship globally again 👍🏻.... please like and subscribe if you got anything useful from the video, thanks 🙏🏻
Just ordered one for my Classic Vibe Bass VI. If that works out I'll be ordering two more for my Jazzmaster and Jaguar.
@@davidcudlip6587 good stuff, Staytrem makes a big difference to the bass Vi and any jazz or jag 👌
Thank you. I’m a long time user of the collet and arm. I’ll be picking up some bridges from them soon.
Squire makes an affordable jazzmaster with an unplayable bridge that doesn’t come w an Allen key
And everyone’s just cool with it
‘ oh yeah by the way you will need to spend 300 extra dollars to get a functioning bridge just to play it..
It comes on the custo shop fenders but not these ‘
So it isn’t really an affordable guitar then.
Ditch the strings, ditch the bridge, by some shims, bridge, new strings and tools and spend money on over seas sipping and wait to get all the parts so you can then work on it for several hours before you can play it.
May as well just buy a fender custom shop guitar.
And they know it’s a problem and troll you by making a great bridge that’s only available on a custom shop model
Pretty fucked up
@@PNNYRFACE yup I agree it sucks.. it’s not hard to just make something that fixes the issues as standard!
Vintage style has the characteristic chime that others don't have, so happy shimming for me
If it works, don’t go changing 👍🏻
Fuzzman definitely earns the title “Lord” because this is the ULTIMATE guide to bridges. Thanks for the cons section of each because I never see these anywhere! Long live the Fuzzman! 🤟🏽
Thanks Joe, 🙏🏻👌
The halon and custom shop are sooo damn good
I live in Greece so the Halon was a no brainer for me. Haris knows his stuff! Amazing build quality, feels like it should be going into space.
I can't hear any big difference in tone and certainly none of the reputed improved sustain from the Mastery. Great video - informative and well put together.
I could only pick out that the mustang bridge has a lot more treble and the vintage bridge has a more mellow, almost hollow sound (which I dig)
I thought the custom shop bridge sounded best. Good work fella
I own a Classic Player Jazzmaster (Mexico) and, based on this video, I just purchased a Halon bridge. The original Fender bridge was like a toy compared to the substantial metal on this beast. OMG. So easy to set the height and intonation and the tone is huge and rings forever. Haris at Halon was very helpful and extremely fast with email replies. BUT the posts on the Halon were slightly larger in diameter than the thimbles on my MIM JM. Lucky for me I own a drill press. I screwed the posts off the bridge and inserted them in my drill press chuck (one at a time) and turned set the drill press to 1700rpms (my drill has an rpm readout). i took a file to the side of the posts while they were turning and filed them down to the correct diameter so they just fit the thimbles. It took about 20mins per post due to my constant testing and quality of the steel posts. Perfect fit. I considered drilling out the thimbles but i didn't think there was enough sidewall on them and didn't want to mess with enlarging the thimble holes on the guitar. I considered the mastery bridge but they looked a little weird for my taste.
Metz and the Cure in the same sentence? YESSSSS
Staytrem is fantastic, paired with a shim on my Avri 65 Jag it has perfect intonation, comfortable string spacing and requires no maintenance. Combined with the shim I'd say it enhances the classic Jag sound without drastically changing it.. exactly what I was looking for. Staytrem is also durable used mine regularly over the past few years with no issues. Staytrem collet and trem arm are also really good.
My thoughts and experience too 👌
Custom shop bridge does it for me, both visually and soundwise! Nice comparison!!!
That custom shop bridge is the winner for me, it seems to have a fuller sound, sustains nicely and looks the business. The weakest was the vintage. Whether any of this would be noticeable in a band mix is debatable. If I could get the custom shop one as an after market upgrade (and it wasn't too expensive) I'd be all over it. However, on balance and as a UK resident, the Staytrem would be my go to.
Great video, nicely paced and with all the information you'd ever need, IMO.
Totally agree. In a live setting you wouldn’t notice any difference at all, I think it’s more about functionality for me. Thanks for the kind words 👍🏻
In my opinion, the tone of the vintage style bridge is the best. It's definitely bright and clear. I think my second favorite is the Staytrem though. Seems like a good value and fixes the problems with the vintage style. Unfortunately, I think the tone is a bit darker on the Staytrem though. I really wanted to like the mastery, but I just can't seem to get behind the tone of it.
Agreed! I just invested $220 usd in a mastery for my '96 MIJ JM . I was shocked by this comparison- the mastery seemed to be the thinnest sounding, next to the vintage- for my ear- but also comparison varied to some degree, respectively, as he toggled through pickup settings 🤷🏻♂️
vintage screws loosen over time and start to buzz ..
Excellent video.
Thanks buddy 👍🏻
Great information supplied here. To my ears the Halon and Fender RSD sound superior to the other options. Thanks for the work you have done here! You earned a new subscriber
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks buddy 👍🏻
Ill echo your reply 100%!!! 🙌🏼👌🏼
Your thoughts about the Mastery bridge are spot on. Swope trem and bridge also deserve your attention.
Yeah I do have a descendent vibrato from Chris which is fantastic. I must get around to doing a video on it. Haven’t had one of his bridges yet though. 👌
@@LordFuzzman Thank you for mentioning Halon, didn't know about them. Their ABR-1 bridge seems quite interesting.
@@walterrizotto8668 No problem. I’m just about to shoot a new video covering the different type of Halon bridges.
Solid video my man... I’m sure I can speak for others that we all truly appreciate your attention to detail and dedication
Slade Brannon Thanks very much, not the most exciting subject to do a video on but it needed to be done 👍🏻
This is a lot of effort. Thanks you for the review.
Thanks buddy
Excellent video. The only one i felt was significantly different was the vintage style, which sounded a bit thinner. The others all sounded very similar, and i suspect than any differences would be overwhelmed by playing dynamics.
This was super helpful in my decision on which bridge I want. I really like the custom shop bridge, but because of lack of availability I might need to check out the halon because that seems like the next best option. Thank you for this awesome comparison video!
I checked out the new RSD bridge from Fender Custom Shop and it's really exciting. One of the best things they're ever done, in fact. It's too bad that they aren't selling it as an aftermarket part because they would sell a lot of them. They're using the RSD as a feature selling point exclusively on CS guitars. I don't really agree with that strategy as I would think Fender would want to get the RSD to as many non-CS players as possible.
Best comparison vid I've seen. Great job! My thoughts after viewing this a few times: The vintage sounds best. Staytrem second. Mastery third. Custom fourth. Mustang fifth. Halon last. Very interesting. 🤔
@@richardhenrickson6711 thank you very much 🙏🏻
Best video out here providing information.
Mustang bridge on my Squire Jaguar is dropping on high e side and choking out strings.
Unplayable.
I didn’t know there was a shit ton of bridge issues on these guitars.
They didn’t tell me this at the music store.
Guess I’ll be investing in a Staytrem
Now that was a well put together video. Thank you Lord Fuzzman!
Intonation is everything to me so Staytrem and Halon win for me.
Bought my MIJ lefty JM about 5+ years ago. Out of the box whenever I leaned over to check pedals etc the bar would fall out of it's hole. Plus it went out of tune after divebomb.
So I got a mastery set. Absolutely solid as a rock now.
Thanks for this and the work you put in for this. I have ordered a Staytrem for my Squier Classic Vibe Bass VI and this just reassured my decision. I'm in the US and am so grateful that John ships to us now....
Thanks Nick, I have a Squier bass Vi and the staytrem bridge was a big improvement all round for it 👌
Cool piece of myth-busting, M'Lord!
Damn, what an amazing comparison. I really like the Halon one for the build quality and customizability
Thank you 🙏🏻
Massively helpful, thought I was going crazy with my bridge constantly wiggling itself free, have ordered a staytrem!
Glad to help .. good choice 👌
I had a cheap tunomatic style bridge with roller saddles on it, which happened to drop right into the existing holes of my Fender Japanese Traditional Jaguar. The radius is "wrong" but it doesn't pose any problems for me at all. I actually think it has improved the tone a bit too. Not bad for free (seeing as I already had it lying about).
Been playing jaguars since they were cheap. I paid 184 bucks for my bascket case 64 and like 900 for my clean 63. Anyways i used a stock bridge for years i later picked up a no wire abr1 when gibson custom shop started making them. I made aluminum slugs that dont rock threaded for the abr1 post threads. I also play giant fat necks by warmoth on both my vintage jags and they are 12 inch radius which matches my bridge radius. I play jags for the 24 inch scale not so much the tone . So my 64 has burst buckers and my 63 has the stock single coils but wired more regular style just on off switch for each. This was a great video. I love talking jags. Really digging the halo. Although im not planning on switching my bridges. I pound the shit outa my guitars and they are solid.
Do you have any tuning issues with using the trem on a tuneamatic?
I got today a Mastery bridge for my MIJ Jazzmaster, and so far I am super impressed by the improvement in tuning stability and sonical resonance/sustain of the guitar! I didn't consider other options also because of covid/shipping issues. So I had to get what I was able to find between my nation boarders. Also the setup was really quick and easy, and was able to tune and set the intonation properly.
Mastery is a well-engineered bridge. Woody is a total pro and knows what he's doing.
@@danielstoddart I was so well impressed I also got the Mastery Vibrato. Also in this case a totall huge improvement over the orginal MIJ part.
@@JoelGilardini The vibrato is also pretty great. I like how the collet is a better design that seems more solid when using the vibrato arm. I also like how there's no locking button...I never used it when I had one on the stock Fender unit and it simplifies it.
This is such a great video idea. I haven't watched it yet, but I know I'm gonna love it.
Thanks for making this man! I've been going back and forth on getting a Mastery for like 15 years now and kick myself for not buying one at $75 back when I had the chance. This side by side comparison made it clear to me the Mastery is actually the worst option for what I want out of it. And aside from its drawbacks, the Mastery was the only one that drastically changed the tone in a negative way (to my ear at least). Really well done video 👍
Thank you, glad the video helped and maybe save you a few pennies 👌
I regret ever buying a Mastery, every other bridge sounds better.
This was the exact offset bridge review I was looking for. Perfect! Thanks, mate! 😃
Glad to be of help 👍🏻
thanks for the putting this clip together, very informative and helpful. I am looking to shim my neck and see how that works out
The vintage style is a winner for me. The aggressiveness and instability on the strings provides a sound no other one can offer. If set up properly, which is rarely the case.
You don't mind it sounding thinner??
@@sharonlee4773 Not at all. I think it cuts through better
amazingly informative video - thank you! I must admit, I've used a staytrem on my old jaguar and now on my Jazzmaster and couldn't be happier. Lots of great bridge options but that one definitely works for me and hasn't given me a problem in 10 years of combined use. That said if one day the dream custom shop jazzmaster happens and has the RSD bridge I won't complain ;)!!
Awesome video. I think I’ll stick with the stock mustang bridge that came with my CV Squier Jazz. It works great. Great info
One of the better videos of the good stuff jazzmaster, Cheers
Just enjoying the rundown of bridges and then you hit me with the Leatherface riffs? Well done, man.
You’re clearly a man of taste, most wouldn’t recognise it 👍🏻
Hats of to this man! This was a lot of work changing all those bridges. To quote Evil Roy Slade, “He has a stick with it quality you can’t help but admire “ 👍☮️
Glad someone appreciates it.. 😂
I got a Staytrem bridge shortly before they stopping shipping outside the UK. It’s a fantastic bridge and I’m happy to say that I’ve never had a problem with it. 10/10 recommend if you can find one.
They’re great,,, and now shipping worldwide again 👍🏻
Wow that custom shop bridge is noticeably better than the rest.
The CS is louder for sure (pickup height or dynamics of the picking hand?), but there's less note seperation than the Mastery. Also more low end and high end content than the Mastery, whereas the Mastery is more focussed. To me, the CS bridge is kind of like an Ash body - more highs and lows with less in the upper mids, whereas the Mastery is more like alder - more focus and upper midrange, and just a more balanced tone overall. But I think any of these bridges can work, just depends upon your flavour!
Also like the sound of the Mustang bridge.
Cork sniffing on full display here…
@@softlightsymphonybandI’m getting some hoppy oaky gravel notes. A nice bouquet of petrol.
@@Ganache30I like the mastery but it's uncomfortable to play. Especially with palm mutes.
I think the Halon bridge was the best compromise for quality, esthetic and sound except for the price
Hands down best video on this topic!!! Yes, definitely can hear the difference. Staytrem and Mastery sound nearly identical. Vintage is most twang and brightest, Mustang 2nd brightest, both the Custom Shop and Halon have a sweet buttery tone. Tough decisions!!! But for me, I think I need the right pickups 1st. Certainly correct break angle over the bridge is key to no buzzing and best tone. I had to shim my custom build to get the correct height / angle. My instrument is a bit too changy, not exactly twangy. So, I may need a brass solution. I may go for building my own.... 😱😱😱
Thanks buddy, let me know how you get on building your own!! 👍🏻
Amazing comparison accurate much information. I want my Halon now.. very defined and sweet at the same time.. I liked the vintage too... lofi and sweet
Thanks glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
GREAT video. On my 2018 FCS Jazzmaster, the RSD bridge rocks.
Update for anyone seeing this video now: Staytrem do ship overseas now. I’m receiving mine tomorrow in the US! Very excited.
Thanks for this video as it made my decision easy. The best imo was the custom shop, but I distinctly heard overtones from both it and the Staytrem that were very pleasing to the ear.
16:19 Nice rendition of Dead Industrial Atmosphere!
Thanks, if you recognised it you’re clearly someone with great taste 👌
Came here for this. STUBBS!
Just got a tip for rattling or saddle adjustment screws vibrating loose.
Silicon gasket maker works great, and won't screw up threads.
Great tip Don, will give that a go 👌
Custom shop bridge for the win!!!
Great comparisons! I'm new to Jazzmasters, so this is incredibly helpful. Thank you!!
Well, I clicked on this video from a topic search and subscribed to the channel for a Leatherface riff! My kinda channel!
You my friend are clearly a person of impeccable taste 👌 Thanks
I needed a .1 shim to get the set up I needed with the Fender Pro bridge. I did indeed get the perfect action with no issues, except the break angle was so extreme it made the string tension impossible for whole step bends. The Mastery bridge solved that, and turns out to be perfect for me. And I love the way it sounds with my rig.
That Halon sounds remarkably "flat", or full spectrum. It reminds me of studio monitors: they aren't exciting, but that's because nothing is missing- no notches or surprises.
I know which I'd splash out on for a new build for sure.
That said, my current offset crop (3) use variations of the "proper" Mustang bridge and the American Professional with and without nylon bushings (rocking and non-rocking). They're relatively inexpensive, relatively high quality, and once properly shimmed at the neck and set up (1x Descendant, 2x AVRI trems) absolutely flawless with regular 'ol 10s.
That Staytrem bridge looks like the best mod imo
That's because you mistakenly purchased one and now feel like you need to defend it or you'll feel foolish for buying it imo.
@@Great-Documentaries - I might have purchased it if it was possible back when I posted.
@@Great-Documentaries how do you know he bought you pancake
Building a Jazzmaster and wanted to get a Staytrem but being in the US, it just wasn't a great option unfortunately. So I went with Mastery...not gonna complain in the slightest about that though. Never had heard of Halon until now, definitely something to look into for the next build ;)
Vintage style worked great on my AV65, think the neck pocket is angled but never gave me an issue. Swapped to a Mastery and it’s much more difficult to set up and dial in intonation but unplugged definitely sounds louder to my ears. Helps for getting overtones behind the bridge which is why I love it
Ps great video the nerd in me loved it
Benjirob182 🙏🏻.
Thanks for the video man ! You made me go for the Halon MS58 Brass bridge.
Hope it will be a perfect fit with the Cecca futur rage pickups.
Have you made a video about the jalon jazzmaster tremolo ?
nice job. thanks for the deep dive and the sound samples.
Thanks buddy 🙏🏻
Was going back and forth on mastery or staytrem. Read the forums and all pros and cons, but this video solidified my staytrem purchase. Just ordered. Now a mastery tremolo unit and a staytrem bridge that rocks may be something awesome though.
Wise choice Evan, yeah a Staytrem bridge and Mastery trem is a great combo that I use myself 👍🏻
@@LordFuzzman I got both units ordered. Might be some time until I see them, but not in a rush. My stupid fender tremolo (really vibrato but whatever) doesn't completely return to it's original position after use which I have never seen before. Mastery should take care of that. I find it odd that mastery pretty much tells you to leave the arm in at all times though and will refuse to sell a replacement if arm is lost.
@@evanpauls3078 yeah I hear what you’re saying. I do leave my mastery arms in all the time. Even in the case and never have any issues 👍🏻
@@LordFuzzman a real pleasure Fuzzman. This video is seriously amazing and super high quality. You made things very clear and got me to stop wading through all the forums and noise with some very true and straightforward comparisons. Also, with my open back headphones on, the sound quality of the video itself really helped make certain observations pretty apparent. Much appreciated!
Incredible video. I vote staytrem. I love them. And to me they retain the true Jazzmaster tone you get from the vintage bridge.
Informative, to the point and with all the audio examples. Thanks a bunch Lord Fuzzman, great job. Subbed with joy.
Excellent review! Just a shame it didn't include wangy bar use! They were all an improvement on the vintage bridge. The staytrem wins for me for value for money tho I prefer the wider string spacing. 👍
Huge help! Thanks for taking the time and trouble to do this. I'm thinking about a Custom Shop Mustang, so I can get the RSD bridge which is very appealing but this video shows (at least to my ears) that a regular Mustang bridge could actually be preferable because it offers individual string adjustment which I really need with heavy strings and wound third. Thanks again.
Glad you found it useful, it’s not the most interesting topic but people ask about bridges on the forums every day.
@@LordFuzzman SO very true! I am now questioning myself about how crucial is it to me to have individual string adjustment? With a heavy set, 52-12 with wound third, maybe the RSD is perfect as-is? The only chance I'll have to find out is ordering one through the Custom Shop but I would sure hate to get it wrong and find out that I really needed the adjustment and have a much cheaper unit with the Mustang conventional bridge. I have that on 3 guitars from the Parallel Universe series already so I'm tempted to try the RSD but it's still something of a risk.
@@ES295 I don’t think they sell the RSD separately. Staytrem are now shipping globally. You can’t go wrong with one of those 👌
Had the first ever set of phosphor bronze saddles from Halon, incredible bridge!
I have 3 of the custom shop RSD bridges all of them are rocking
This is a superb video, answered all my queries, thank you Lord Fuzzman
You’re welcome 👍🏻
My preference goes to Halon & the mustang bridge. They both have a clarity to them that is absolutely nice to hear (the Halon overdriven is slightly darker than the mustang but still clear). I do like the Staytrem in the video, & have been thinking of getting it for my own jazzmaster guitar build, but i think i'm leaning towards Halon options instead of the Staytrem mainly for clarity sake, & Halon offers that fine tuning in allows used so each bridge is unique really to each player.
Halon and < Staytrem. 🙌😌🎶👂
I had the vintage, Mastery, and Staytrem and went back to the Mastery. looks, sounds, and feels better for me.
good to hear, I bought a mastery bridge and about to get it put on by my luthier. So thought I made a mistake with all the cons in this video haha
This is by far THE BEST comparison video I've seen in a long time, thank you!
Thanks Gary, glad you liked it 🙏🏻
@@LordFuzzman If you had to choose one for a "do it all" Jazzmaster, what would be your pick objectively?
I've been using the Staytrem for nearly five years, the Mastery has always tempted and I may purchase one.
Gary Jovanovitch - if you’re in the U.K. Staytrem for sure, works perfectly and sensibly priced 👍🏻
Excellent video! Thanks for posting this! I could hear a slight difference with the Mastery and Vintage bridge. They seemed a tad brighter on the clean tones but everyone’s ears will be different.
The custom shop bridge sounds louder than the rest. None of them are bad, and there's not that much difference to worry about, but if it was me, I'd go for the Halon.
Nothing better than dropping an extra 300 dollars on a guitar just to get it to play
Fender needs to be slapped for this shit
Twice
OMG, night and day with the Custom Shop Bridge. I think the Mustang is the runner up for me. Just like PRS will use brass tuning pegs and saddles to get more chime, this made it clear to me that brass saddles really make a difference. More bell like, for sure. Clear as day.
I think it would be the difference between cutting through a mix (especially live when you have less control over your mix) and disappearing.
*Granted, if you're in a shoegaze band, single notes cutting through vs having a homogenous wall of sound might make you want to stick with a stock bridge.
Wow, this was both informative and entertaining.
Thanks for making this comparison. I hope it will set things right for all those who are preferring one of these bridges without knowing the effect on sound, playability and their money spent.
I subscribed, BTW. 😀
Lord Fuzzman, Tis a wondrous gift you bestow. I accept upon bended knee and subscribe!
Staytrem all the way.
Thanks for all the info and sound samples! Sounds like something happened in the last example. The Staytrem sounds like it was played in the middle position and the Halon sounded like the tone or volume pot was turned down slightly.
Make Wave - Thanks, Yeah I did notice that too. Unfortunately too late to do anything about it.
Yeah, the Halon seemed to be missing quite a lot of top end detail
Fantastic video. Just a small note, the loctite that you showed was glue, one needs the blue loctite for thread locking.
We must be the only people I. The world with sensitive hands! I’ve been talking about this for six months and no one else ever responds or has mentioned the sharp edges hurting their palms during muting. It’s a HUGE deal to me, since it makes playing a lot more difficult when your have to wrap your hand in bandages. For this reason I replaced my tune-o-magic bridge with a roller bridge (yeah, that’s a great solution on LP style guitars. After researching which offset guitar to get for months, the RUclips algorithm finally brought me here... :-)
Yeah I agree it doesn’t get mentioned. I’ve cut my hand in the past on bridges 🤷♂️
Great video! I play a bigsby Tele, so all this is kind of relevant to us too.
I use the vintage style JM bridge, but I think the bigsby adds a bit more break angle.
I use some nylon/plastic strips cut to size which I insert into the post holes which reduce the amount the bridge can rock, without locking it completely.
Really useful, proper information that helps.
Thanks Jon 👌
now that i have the comparisson.i knew theres something not sounding right with my jazzmaster and mustang bridge,especially in the neck.i dont even start about the sustain :D. thanks for showing all these alternatives :)
fantastic video, very helpful!
The Halon one is what I'm talking about !
Good question.. I can ask for you if you’re interested ?
I've just asked they can do rocking and non rocking versions but said the cover probably won't fit .....they didn't mention the mute but the more I think about it it would probably work ......shame I think I will stick to the stay trem I know the mute and the cover work with it ........
Man, that Fender Custom Shop bridge sounds so rich
I want a Halon for my Ultra Luxe Strat. I told them I hate the plastic knob on the end of tremolo arms and asked if they wouldn't mind not threading the end of the arm and not putting the plastic knob on it, and they said that won't be a problem. They're cool. They sound incredible, as I saw on another shoot out video you did. Can you do a Strat bridge shootout some time? Would love to see how they stack up against the rest.
Nice video. Great production!
Thanks, really appreciate it 👍🏻
Really nice video. I definitely hear a difference, with the custom shop and mastery sounding much better than the others. Oddly, there’s something about the mustang that time travels backwards. I believe it is a certain blend of distorted frequencies that signify a “classic sound”. Does anyone else hear or feel that? Or, is this one of those generation gaps? (Understanding that the term “generation gap” is equally vintage and distorted). In other words, I can hear a familiarity with the mustang that emulates ‘60’s or ‘70’s guitar. I find this to be unexpected, and interesting. This leaves three choices: 1) Keep it vintage 2) buy a custom shop or 3) mastery, in no certain order. I think a newer guitar might benefit most from a mastery upgrade.
Thanks for the thorough demo
Wow, I think this is one of the coolest gear videos I’ve seen in a long time. I bought my mastery bridge a long time ago when they were the only alternative bridge besides the mustang. I don’t think Staytrem was around yet. I’m still happy with mine. I love the way the string vibrations feel across the body with it. As far as vibrato arm solutions go, however, Staytrem absolutely crushes it
Thanks very much for the kind words. It took a lot of effort but I’m glad it had been appreciated 🙏🏻
Original vintage win ever
I think it should be mentioned that Halon offers rocking bridge studs, besides keeping with Leo's original design, if you have a mute on on your Jag, and you want to use a Mastery, you'll have to drill out the holes in you mute to make it work, the Halon rocking studs work fine with a mute, they fit fine into the mute holes.
The vintage is fine! Just use heavier strings and the right setup no need to change it - I did like the resonance the halon had but it had less upper high end detail - the mustang and staytrem seemed to choke the sustain a little and made it more ploddy- the mastery did have a nice open ish sound to it - and I love the idea and look of the CS in all honesty I have no issues with my vintage style one I think I’ll keep it as is :)
Exactly what I think. My favorites were the vintage and mastery by far. I have the mustang, and I think it sounds awful. The Staytrem is pretty nice, but not enough clarity and overtones. I actually just don't like adjusting the individual saddles which is why I replaced it with the Mustang, but I really don't enjoy it so I think I'll just deal with the Vintage or maybe get a Mastery.
I just received my staytrem bridge. What a difference it was compare to mastery. Great tuning stability and smoother feel when using tremolo. I think it darken a tone a little bit which i think is good especially with 1 meg pot.
Yeah anyone paying double for a mastery is doing it for the brand name only!
@@LordFuzzman Yes..definitely the hype. I'll put it up for sale to fund the mastery vibrato. What's your opinion on their vibrato compare to avri? Btw thanks man for this great comparison video.
This is such a great video and very helpful, thank you! Am looking to upgrade my MIJ Jazzmaster. Unfortunately I like the Custom Shop one the best😅 The Staytrem is also nice. The Mastery has really nice overtones, but I won’t let anything on my JM that looks like braces. The Vintage Style is the one where you can definitely tell that the bridge impacts the sound. The one with the least sustain, that one.
Thanks for the kind words Paul, good luck with the upgrade 👍🏻
Great review. I have tried the stock, the mustang, the Staytrem and the RSD. Out of those I prefer the RSD, with the Staytrem a close second. But the RSD most certainly is a rocking bridge, however its rocking range is a bit less than the other rocking bridges.
Hi thanks for watching, do you still have the Guitar with the RSD? There was absolutely no movement with an RSD, I’m intrigued !
@@LordFuzzman I do still have it, it’s my fave guitar. It’s a Custom Shop Wildwood 10 - special run made for Wildwood Guitars, and that RSD does rock! The suggestion appears to be that Fender has made rocking and non Rocking RSDs. As a matter of fact mine has little ridges perpendicular to the strings, in the saddle string slots, that fix the strings, especially the wound ones, in place, so that when the bridge rocks the strings don’t slip across the saddles.
@@bcjaliu that’s really interesting, thanks for the info. I’m glad they are doing a rocking option too. It wouldn’t make sense not too after all these years 👌