REMO drums initially were suspect but they continually made improvements to where many known and respected drummers including Louie Bellson, Carl Palmer, Terry Bozzio, and Vinnie Paul played them for years. The line continued up into the 2000s but were eventually phased out because other manufacturers were complaining that the bestselling drumhead company was also selling great drums.
Traps was actually pretty dope! They sounded GREAT! Traps came before the pearl and dw travel joint. But traps is an acoustic kit not an electronic kit..
It sort of was... They tried to create a hybrid. I had a Traps kit that included their e-kit options. It was a crappy module, and a set of electronic pads that sat on top of the acoustic heads. I sold the electronic components almost immediately and tried to play the acoustic kit for a while. It was impossible to get a decent sound from them. Another problem was the limited positioning of the kick and toms... The kick goes between the two posts, and there's not much range of movement with the toms. Taking the rack apart and trying to modify/adjust it was a nightmare as well. Great idea, awful execution.
The Vox Telstar kit is a reissue of a vintage 60s kit. It wasn’t intended to revolutionize the drum market, just a cool niche product. They actually sound pretty decent (especially the maple kit).
This video is way too revealing that he knows very little about drum history, products throughout eras and brand design specifics. I love the usual funny content but if you’re out here crediting Vox copy’s if 1960’s German made Trixons and saying “maybe Stacatto will take off” as if they’ve been produced anytime since the 80’s then maybe funny videos is a more appropriate focus than drum product history videos. I really do enjoy the usual clever and funny contents and think you own that lane man and not trying to be a dick 🫶
You might not be trying but you’re being a dick. He’s just making a funny video about goofy drum products, it’s not that deep. I don’t think he was being serious about staccato taking off, but it doesn’t matter, he doesn’t need to be a historian to pull up some photos of old weird drum products and react with us (I’m seeing a bunch of this stuff for the first time). I enjoyed it. Relax a bit.
I bought the DW practice kit from a pawn shop in Knoxville TN for $50. I agree about it looking stupid.but, It's made of really nice DW hardware though. I sold it for a pretty good profit on reverb. Also, the Remo master touch was on a lot of records back in the day. The best one I can think of was Vinnie Paul. He played Remo on metal magic, cfh, vulgar display, and far beyond driven before he switched to Pearl. You can see one of the kits in the video for "I'm Broken".
I own a set of Zildjian pitch blacks and they're actually really good. idk why people shit on them. they're durable, the coating doesn't chip, they sound dry but also slightly trashy, i just love them idk what the beef is with them
The vox drum was a collectors piece it came out in a limited run they rereleased it as such rather to clarify. It’s quite expensive now. Also it doesn’t sound bad AT all
A friend of mine actually has the Vox kit. It actually doesn’t sound that bad but nothing crazy about it other than the looks. He got a custom head for it for his band so they could have their logo but I couldn’t imagine the disaster that would arise if you broke the head on a gig
That DW pad set is pretty good. When I got my first apartment I had very little space and needed to practice basically silently. The DW set was just right for keeping my chops in shape between sessions at the band's practice space.
Staccato was out in the 80's. Hand made in the UK. Seen being used by the likes of John Bonham, Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon, Simon Phillips, Dave Barbarossa etc. MASSIVE, LOUD sounding drums. Personally I love the look of them. But they were unwieldy (even though they nested) and very expensive with limited distribution. Which when combined generally equals bankruptcy. BTW, Chad Smith is currently using a 3D printed replica of a Staccato tom with the Chili Peppers. Iconic drums in drum history.
I actually have a set of Remo Master touch Drums in the configuration shown here ((20" kick but with 10 lugs on each side, 10, 12, 14, and 15" toms. The snare with the kit was a piccolo and I now own two of those ( one 14 and one 13" diameter and a when I use those snares I always get compliments on the sound). As stated above Bozzio and Bellson played Remo drums. I actually saw Terry Bozzio do a clinic about 30 or so years ago playing a Remo kit. I've had mine about 30 years, give or take, and they were originally purchased as a backup set. They sound good though they aren't as "expressive" for lack of a better term than my other newer drum kits ( Pearl and Sonor maple and birch kits). They work great when I play in smaller rooms simply because they aren't as loud. Again, the tone is good and they worked well for recording home grown demos for the bands I was in back then. The hardware wasn't great though and I had to repair the Tom mounts. Now I'm replacing the Tom L Ball holders with the Gibraltar equivalent. As I said though the set is 30 to 35 years old so some things will wear out. The shells though are 100% fine still. I'm currently prepping this kit to ship to Florida where I'll most likely be playing in the winter.
I had a remo kit, they were actually pretty good, had some big endorsers... terry bozzio Virgil donati Ricky Lawson Carl Palmer Louis bellson vinnie Paul etc... should have been more popular than what they were... btw that traps kit was not electronic... how do I know I had one of those as well..😆....and yep they were ordinary... snare drum in particular to thin no body and no snare adjustment.
Chad Smith actually currently plays one of those staccato toms on his kit which is kinda crazy. But I love how this video is just saying what everyone is thinking about weird drum stuff
Check out the Trixon bass drum. Also did the melting looking bass drum that Vox did. Although it had two different sections and they would put two pedals on it and get two different tones
It was invented by trixon and vox was the distributor in UK or US I believe back in the days. But the reproduction was done with cheap quality hardware - nothing like the real trixon thing back then
@user-mx6ho2mo8g oh so like vox slapped their name on a trixon design? I wish cowboy knew about the drummers side of these things to see the crazy double pedal set up on them
Yo Homie, been waiting for this video! I saw Barker on Drumeo using the DW with moongel pads, thought it was a good idea for speed training (albeit expensive!). I heard someone say the Vox is inspired by a trucker who backed up into a bass drum that had been left behind (maybe it was a joke.) The triangle drums are NUTS!
I saw Buddy Rich play one of the original Remo kits on the Tonight Show. The bass drum kept creeping away and he would have to reach down quite often to pull it back toward him. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I saw a Primus live video from the late 90's I believe, the drummer was playing the Staccato kit. Sounded normal. About a year ago, I saw the Vox kit on the floor of a little mom and pop music store in Santee CA. Looked cool and wasn't very expensive. I thought about buying it, I was buying a guitar amp at the time.
The first thing that comes to my mind when seeing these oddly shaped novelty drum kits is what do you do when you need to replace the heads? Where are you going to find a triangle-shaped drumhead? It's so obviously an awful idea, no wonder they failed.
So many of these inventions were the 1st in the field, then everybody copied and improved. Also 1960s vox had a dividing bearing edge and used 2 pedals ..... 2 give 2 different sounds. It was the 1960s and also released under trixon, who invented the "drum rack" decades ahead... Vinnie paul played remo master touch in the beginning.... and in the video's also. Staccato and North Drums.... for live sound before PAs and mics were good
The remo fake wood snares shell would collapse on its self , bend in the middle with the tension. TRAPS are a plastic car parts factory that could do plastic moldings really cheap so did a kit. The ekit version of it was bad , it broke down. VOX egg bass drum for a double pedal. It had a plank of wood between the 2 Chambers.
Somebody who has a lot of old drums did a video about the Staccatto drums. The material they are made from is unstable, they don't sound that good and they warp after a while making them untunable.
I make a drum riser 3 boxes Hold the entire kit , cymbals , hardware, pedals , extras Flips over empty , locks together Becomes your (not see the bandmates asses all night) Drum Riser Any interest ?
Remo. They have been in continuous production since the late 50s. They are the exact same head size/shape as the trixon and 60s Vox branded trixon kits use.
Ive got the tama true touch bass drum pad. Pretty sweet for a practice tool... and whoever complained the shuffle was too loud is a whole bitch. You killed that bro, turn it up!
You gotta talk about the zildjian gen16 cymbal module thing. I remember everyone thought it was an amazing innovation when it was announced, and they just sounded like total shit lol
No headbanging allowed while playing those triangle drums 😂 Those sharp corners look like a career ender lmfao! Yall wtf are thoooose????!! Imagine trying to join a band and you start hauling in triangle drums
That Staccato Monstrosity has been around in one form or another since the '80s. For a sound reference check out Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy". I'd rather have Annabella Lwin, personally
This video is really a bad move bro! A few of this "flopped" products are part of the drums history... Maybe ChatGPT is not so prepared on this matter....
REMO drums initially were suspect but they continually made improvements to where many known and respected drummers including Louie Bellson, Carl Palmer, Terry Bozzio, and Vinnie Paul played them for years. The line continued up into the 2000s but were eventually phased out because other manufacturers were complaining that the bestselling drumhead company was also selling great drums.
Vinnie Paul mentioned🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅
Remo makes pretty good drums, aside from the PTS malarkey back in the day
@@PrinceAsmodeus as I mentioned. But the early PTS were for kids, really.
@tomkelsey2303 👌
I find it hard to believe Remo stopped because other drum companies were ‘complaining’ about Remo’s success
Traps was actually pretty dope! They sounded GREAT! Traps came before the pearl and dw travel joint. But traps is an acoustic kit not an electronic kit..
That traps kits was not an Ekit. Chat gpt js hallucinating.
chat did it dirty I will get one and do a video and redeem them stay tuned
It sort of was... They tried to create a hybrid. I had a Traps kit that included their e-kit options. It was a crappy module, and a set of electronic pads that sat on top of the acoustic heads. I sold the electronic components almost immediately and tried to play the acoustic kit for a while. It was impossible to get a decent sound from them. Another problem was the limited positioning of the kick and toms... The kick goes between the two posts, and there's not much range of movement with the toms. Taking the rack apart and trying to modify/adjust it was a nightmare as well. Great idea, awful execution.
The Vox Telstar kit is a reissue of a vintage 60s kit. It wasn’t intended to revolutionize the drum market, just a cool niche product. They actually sound pretty decent (especially the maple kit).
This video is way too revealing that he knows very little about drum history, products throughout eras and brand design specifics.
I love the usual funny content but if you’re out here crediting Vox copy’s if 1960’s German made Trixons and saying “maybe Stacatto will take off” as if they’ve been produced anytime since the 80’s then maybe funny videos is a more appropriate focus than drum product history videos.
I really do enjoy the usual clever and funny contents and think you own that lane man and not trying to be a dick 🫶
You might not be trying but you’re being a dick. He’s just making a funny video about goofy drum products, it’s not that deep. I don’t think he was being serious about staccato taking off, but it doesn’t matter, he doesn’t need to be a historian to pull up some photos of old weird drum products and react with us (I’m seeing a bunch of this stuff for the first time). I enjoyed it. Relax a bit.
Rdavidr has a vox kit bro
Also has a video of a Remo kit
And did a vid on the staccato kit too and sounded pretty cool
I bought the DW practice kit from a pawn shop in Knoxville TN for $50. I agree about it looking stupid.but, It's made of really nice DW hardware though. I sold it for a pretty good profit on reverb. Also, the Remo master touch was on a lot of records back in the day. The best one I can think of was Vinnie Paul. He played Remo on metal magic, cfh, vulgar display, and far beyond driven before he switched to Pearl. You can see one of the kits in the video for "I'm Broken".
I own a set of Zildjian pitch blacks and they're actually really good. idk why people shit on them. they're durable, the coating doesn't chip, they sound dry but also slightly trashy, i just love them idk what the beef is with them
Yeah right,I've been using my 20 crash/ride pitch black,got it pretty cheap,not a bad cymbal at all
The vox drum was a collectors piece it came out in a limited run they rereleased it as such rather to clarify. It’s quite expensive now. Also it doesn’t sound bad AT all
They come up on Reverb from time to time and sell quickly
I've heard those vox bass drums were meant to serve as two kick drums in one. Rdavidr did a video about one of those drum sets.
A friend of mine actually has the Vox kit. It actually doesn’t sound that bad but nothing crazy about it other than the looks. He got a custom head for it for his band so they could have their logo but I couldn’t imagine the disaster that would arise if you broke the head on a gig
That DW pad set is pretty good. When I got my first apartment I had very little space and needed to practice basically silently. The DW set was just right for keeping my chops in shape between sessions at the band's practice space.
11:17 staccato is making a comeback. A guy bought all the molds and is starting the Kelowna based company from Canada back up.
Interesting drums haha
Any more info on this? If I recall some Staccato hardware like the lugs were used on early Ayotte kits.
Staccato was out in the 80's. Hand made in the UK. Seen being used by the likes of John Bonham, Mitch Mitchell, Keith Moon, Simon Phillips, Dave Barbarossa etc. MASSIVE, LOUD sounding drums. Personally I love the look of them. But they were unwieldy (even though they nested) and very expensive with limited distribution. Which when combined generally equals bankruptcy.
BTW, Chad Smith is currently using a 3D printed replica of a Staccato tom with the Chili Peppers. Iconic drums in drum history.
The traps kit didnt even have a module, it was a quiet practice kit, that could be made into a ekit with triggers
im pretty sure Travis Barker hauls that DW pad set around or a similar version of it on tour for warmups in their dressing room before their sets.
Pitch blacks were just zbt series with cosmetic imperfections so they just went "fuck it put black coating so we can salvage them"
I actually have a set of Remo Master touch Drums in the configuration shown here ((20" kick but with 10 lugs on each side, 10, 12, 14, and 15" toms. The snare with the kit was a piccolo and I now own two of those ( one 14 and one 13" diameter and a when I use those snares I always get compliments on the sound). As stated above Bozzio and Bellson played Remo drums. I actually saw Terry Bozzio do a clinic about 30 or so years ago playing a Remo kit. I've had mine about 30 years, give or take, and they were originally purchased as a backup set. They sound good though they aren't as "expressive" for lack of a better term than my other newer drum kits ( Pearl and Sonor maple and birch kits). They work great when I play in smaller rooms simply because they aren't as loud. Again, the tone is good and they worked well for recording home grown demos for the bands I was in back then. The hardware wasn't great though and I had to repair the Tom mounts. Now I'm replacing the Tom L Ball holders with the Gibraltar equivalent. As I said though the set is 30 to 35 years old so some things will wear out. The shells though are 100% fine still. I'm currently prepping this kit to ship to Florida where I'll most likely be playing in the winter.
I saw the vox drum kit in a rdavidr video
I had a remo kit, they were actually pretty good, had some big endorsers... terry bozzio Virgil donati Ricky Lawson Carl Palmer Louis bellson vinnie Paul etc... should have been more popular than what they were... btw that traps kit was not electronic... how do I know I had one of those as well..😆....and yep they were ordinary... snare drum in particular to thin no body and no snare adjustment.
Chad Smith actually currently plays one of those staccato toms on his kit which is kinda crazy. But I love how this video is just saying what everyone is thinking about weird drum stuff
The dw travel pad is amazing I have one and as a traveling drummer I love mine
Check out the Trixon bass drum. Also did the melting looking bass drum that Vox did. Although it had two different sections and they would put two pedals on it and get two different tones
It was invented by trixon and vox was the distributor in UK or US I believe back in the days. But the reproduction was done with cheap quality hardware - nothing like the real trixon thing back then
@user-mx6ho2mo8g oh so like vox slapped their name on a trixon design? I wish cowboy knew about the drummers side of these things to see the crazy double pedal set up on them
I love the grind , kept me entertained all day bro 😎
your videos are pure chill
Yo Homie, been waiting for this video! I saw Barker on Drumeo using the DW with moongel pads, thought it was a good idea for speed training (albeit expensive!). I heard someone say the Vox is inspired by a trucker who backed up into a bass drum that had been left behind (maybe it was a joke.) The triangle drums are NUTS!
Those triangle shaped drums though!!! 😂
I had that Traps kit Def not an E kit just shelless. Fun when I was a kid but basically like banging on heads. Learned with it though.
I love that kit there Is one at my studio it's amazing big bohnam vibes from the set there
I saw Buddy Rich play one of the original Remo kits on the Tonight Show. The bass drum kept creeping away and he would have to reach down quite often to pull it back toward him. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
I saw a Primus live video from the late 90's I believe, the drummer was playing the Staccato kit. Sounded normal. About a year ago, I saw the Vox kit on the floor of a little mom and pop music store in Santee CA. Looked cool and wasn't very expensive. I thought about buying it, I was buying a guitar amp at the time.
The first thing that comes to my mind when seeing these oddly shaped novelty drum kits is what do you do when you need to replace the heads? Where are you going to find a triangle-shaped drumhead? It's so obviously an awful idea, no wonder they failed.
So many of these inventions were the 1st in the field, then everybody copied and improved. Also 1960s vox had a dividing bearing edge and used 2 pedals ..... 2 give 2 different sounds. It was the 1960s and also released under trixon, who invented the "drum rack" decades ahead... Vinnie paul played remo master touch in the beginning.... and in the video's also. Staccato and North Drums.... for live sound before PAs and mics were good
The pitch black cymbals were so cool and when I played them on the store and I HATED THEM
The remo fake wood snares shell would collapse on its self , bend in the middle with the tension. TRAPS are a plastic car parts factory that could do plastic moldings really cheap so did a kit. The ekit version of it was bad , it broke down. VOX egg bass drum for a double pedal. It had a plank of wood between the 2 Chambers.
Nobody ever told him the Vox bass drum was squashed so you could clamp two pedals on it?
Chat GPT is not right. Traps is acustic drum kit, there is no module for that kit, and have a good sound.
never thought i'd be here this early
How about the dualist 3 pedal double pedal should be added to this list
Somebody who has a lot of old drums did a video about the Staccatto drums. The material they are made from is unstable, they don't sound that good and they warp after a while making them untunable.
rdavidr has the vox kit in like a silver crocodile finish, i actually sounds great
I make a drum riser
3 boxes
Hold the entire kit , cymbals , hardware, pedals , extras
Flips over empty , locks together
Becomes your (not see the bandmates asses all night) Drum Riser
Any interest ?
How do you replace the head on that vox bass drum? Who makes that?
Remo. They have been in continuous production since the late 50s. They are the exact same head size/shape as the trixon and 60s Vox branded trixon kits use.
I like your no bullshit delivery.
Ive got the tama true touch bass drum pad. Pretty sweet for a practice tool... and whoever complained the shuffle was too loud is a whole bitch. You killed that bro, turn it up!
I think one of the biggest flop is the Mapex tom mount system called MAATS, they were massive!! and looked awfull
Would like to see a video of that!
The traps drum kit actually looked nice though it sucks it flopped
Virgil Donati used to play Remo kits before he went to Premier in the 90s
I had that practice pad set , awful. Arms had Alen keys and dented the tubes and in the long term all the pad rubber cracked up
How about that DW bass drum riser. The most overengineered and unnecessary piece of gear ive ever seen
Rental spot o work for has a remo kit and a couple snares 😂
You gotta talk about the zildjian gen16 cymbal module thing. I remember everyone thought it was an amazing innovation when it was announced, and they just sounded like total shit lol
Traps was an e kit?
Definitely not, chatGPT once again not exactly a reliable source of information
@@another_aaron thought so, i think they were way before their time with the trap kit
chec rdavidr for that melted bd and the staccatto. that gibraltar pedal is an engineering disaster. thats why that flopped
Vox is pronounced like "cocks". Vox make amazing amps AC30 forever!
Sorry to be that guy but it's vox not voax
A lot of ppl have the practice pad. BUT there are better ones
No headbanging allowed while playing those triangle drums 😂 Those sharp corners look like a career ender lmfao! Yall wtf are thoooose????!! Imagine trying to join a band and you start hauling in triangle drums
Why did you not consider that ChatGPT is actually full of shit?
I claim second place 🙂
Nah if anyone was selling triangle drums Id buy cuz there website is in french 😓
That Staccato Monstrosity has been around in one form or another since the '80s. For a sound reference check out Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy". I'd rather have Annabella Lwin, personally
This video is really a bad move bro! A few of this "flopped" products are part of the drums history... Maybe ChatGPT is not so prepared on this matter....
Steph Curry is a flopper.