I have said it before and I will say it again. Malcolm Nance is a national treasure. Thank you so much for clarifying this situation and for your service to this nation
How you are doing this morning, I would like to say this to this man. I'm talking you might have been in the military, my brother, but won't you sit there and you tell that man a truth about Israel? Tell them about Israel bombing. The US navy ship off the coast of Egypt. You aint told him about that, huh? Yet I hate that they buried it. But I heard none of you from America. Talk about Israel bombing AUS navy spy ship. And let me say this to all you American citizens. When they killed them, people on that did worse than hamas did on the seventh. And they told him people family. You better not say nothing. So look it up
I love Malcom, but respectfully I believe he’s wrong. Israel is shattering the laws of war as we speak. Cutting of water, power, fuel, medicine, and food YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAWS OF WAR. I am for Israel, but what they are doing is wrong. Just because they use F15’s and or Smart Bombs does not mean it’s not terrorism.
He clarified nothing. He's pushing a false narrative. I like Malcom but on this issue he's a spook! It's ridiculous and some of what he's saying has already been proven wrong. Malcolm is effing out of his TEETH! ABOUT ISRAEL ISN'T TARGETING CIVILIANS. THERE ARE VIDEOS OF IDF TARGETING CIVILIANS
I would like to experience Malcolm Nance speaking on every credible news platform. This is the clarity that is desperately needed in every sphere in which people are taking a stand, or spreading a message regarding this topic.
You will not. Malcolm Nance is persona non grata on major US media and will never again appear as a regular commentator. The reason is Malcolm Nance is a fraud. He does not have the intelligence career he claims. He has never been a Navy intelligence officer, he has never worked for the CIA. He did not participate in combat in Ukraine, and was kicked out of the Legion. They're glad he's gone. Malcolm Nance even lies about his family's history of service. He made that up. He's a reflexive liar who lies constantly and speaks with the supreme confidence of a sociopath.
I hope that we have many years to benefit from both y'alls leadership in these stressing years now and to come! I watch and listen to you both Mr. Martin and Mr. Nance when the stuff hits the fan, I know I am going to get the real dope of the situation. Massive kudos to you all on the panel, thank you.
Thank you again Malcom Nance. The only thing that was missing from this segment is the connection Hamas has with Moscow, and how this is a distraction in many ways that Putler, in coordination with Iran, has incited and funded. The same genocide that has been committed in Ukraine is the goal of Hamas in Israel. I cannot stand Netanyahu or his lecud party. I only wish there was a way to extricate the Palestinian people from what is bound to become a very nasty assault on Hamas. If you wanted to support Palestinians, condemn Hamas. Thank you for your expertise on this subject, Malcom Nance. You are a National Treasure🇺🇸 💙💛
I don't know why you got this man on your show because he don't know what the h*** he's talking about. He sit up there and talk about these people like they don't exist. But he aint telling you what is we'll have done to them to make them do what they have to do. To survive, he's not telling you that. Every country have the right to defend its country. But if you do something wrong to another part of that country and you control the lights they gas, they water electricity. You're not telling them. What they control? Tell them what Is Isreal control in that part of the country.
Who say you got to condemn them? You gotta condemn them. I don't have to condemn. How many United States of America I have freedom of speech. I do not have to condemn them. You may have to.
This was a very interesting/informative exchange. Malcolm always does well. It was very helpful to hear his analysis. Great interview, with intelligent views from all sides.
He can't keep using that military background excuse to justify every position because there are persons with military background that oppose Israel's actions
I watched this on the day it aired. Thank you Roland for having Malcolm on the show. He gave an excellent assessment on the situation . I love him. He is the most intelligent and knowledgeable person on any and all political situations in the world. ❤❤❤❤
I wrote a paper on Malcolm Nance. I have great respect for him, thank you for being you Mr. Nance. Everyday people do not understand the whole picture. They can not even understand the logistics that are involved in this situation. Stay safe and please keep informing the people who are letting their emotions blind them, they do not know the whole truth.
Bibi is Ahab and Jezebel wrapped as one. Why the Israelis don’t get rid of him is baffling. They keep wandering in the desert; haven’t learned a thing. They are repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different result. Mistreating the innocent and poor never wins. Gives new meaning to the expression “stiff-necked.”
Yeah his day is coming - I am not expert but as near as i can tell the only reason he was there is he was thought to be so brutal he served as a deterrent to Palestinian attacks - but now that bubble burst - he serves no actual purpose - he is just a criminal
He's a gifter Washington Post did a whole story on this guy. He's a fraud a fake and just making money.... Let's remember him saying,,, He's done talking and went off to fight the Russians..... All Ukrainian men are dead but he's still here. Malcom is a joke joke joke
Thank you for this, good Sir. Your take on this is pretty much the same as mine, which makes me feel better about my conflicting feelings. I am anti-war, and I understand the need deal with terrorists. It just makes me sad that people can't/won't do better.
If Hamas had built their tunnels underneath Israel, and were hiding under the hospitals and schools in Israel, would Nance suggest that they bomb the hospitals and schools in Israel with women and children in them in order to eradicate Hamas? Would he consider the Israeli Women and children collateral damage?
Nance clarified a few things for me. He confirmed what I already had read about Ntenyahu's ties to Hamas. He also clarified that he, by his own admission is a diehard, biased, anti-terrorist operative and that's all he sees. Did he ever answer the honorable ladie's question? Did he have any solution besides "SLOWLY" killing any Palestinians that get in the way of Hamas? How about food, water, and electricity? As a Black Jew, I held Nance's opinions very high. Not with him, on this one he is laser focused on anti-terrorism and civilians are just collateral damage to him.
Tragic that the same Prime Minister who thought he could use Hamas against the Palestinian authority is the one who's in charge of cleaning up this horror. It just wasn't going to happen that he resign or be forced out. I'm not filled with hope.
Actually, it's not really Netanyahu. The Israeli support for the early stages of Hamas goes back to the 80s, and is not recent. The way it was represented in the video made it sound like a Netanyahu policy, but it goes way back before any of his governments.
One can be anti trump , without being anti American. It is just the trumpers that can not see that distinction . Same problem with being anti far right Israelis without being anti semitic.
The part u left out the trumpers have no political anything it’s about whiteness and playing the victim and nothing else the Palestines are brown and that’s all they see so giving them any credit for having an ideology for the people is the biggest misconception, misnomers and oxymorons ever!!
Definitely, it’s funny how we who voted for Biden Can disagree with him on this issue but the Trumpers support their Fuhrer unconditionally: I see this as the crux of the problem
As a black person who had military family members and who’s mother served, one thing I think that happens in the black community is that we conflate our personal feelings about white supremacy with broader international issues and conflicts. While I understand why it happens, I wish that people understood that it’s is basically because of our military presence that we are able to live the lives that we do. This conflict alone is going to destabilize oil prices which will hit black and poor Americans the most. Then people will blame Biden, as though he went into Isreal and killed 1400 people. The failure to see the bigger picture and the nuances of war and politics keep us trapped and pretending like there are “two sides” to what is sometimes actually a 5-6 sided issue that mandates a higher level of compromise and cognition.
I have to think about your point about white supremacy I don't think I completely understand what you are saying . As far as the blaming Biden - that has already happened and all the protests over the weekend are a real head scratcher - to me. I don't know that this really does much to oil prices - they are already artificially inflated by opec with the intention of sabotaging Biden. The traditional US adversaries badly, obviously want Trump as president and are putting their thumbs on the scale as much as possible to see to that outcome . They can get over on him sooooooooo much easier and he certainly is not going to hold them accountable for plunder
@@MichaelSmith-qc7nkYour point, if there is one? No one deserves to be tortured and dismembered! Hamas was not going after enemy combatants, or police stations, or border security, they slaughtered civilians. Their goal was evil personified. They are vile cowards. Your comment is absurd.
i normally like Nance, but his line of reasoning on this issue is totally INSANE. all of his military expertease and his uses it for babbling nonsense. if you have a killer who has committed mass murder and hid in a neighboring house full of people. With the state of Isreal is doing and Malcoms agrees with it, they are not only bombing the house, they are bombing the entire neighborhood, cutting the water and power, demanding the people of the neighboorhood are equally as guilty as the criminal and Israel is exploiting this act of terrorism and using it to ethnically cleanse and land grab. this is totally evil.
With all my respects, Mr. Nance, I disagree. You are a man of war, a strategist, and see things from a different perspective than the average, albeit informed person. You cannot throw everyone who is against Israel’s actions in this conflict in the same bag. I am a 63 y/o European (now an U.S. citizen as well, having lived here for decades) and a lifelong historian who did a tour of Israel and the West Bank in the 1986-87 period, during a truce, with the streets of Israel filled with soldiers armed to their teeth. I saw with my very own eyes, in horror and shock, the appalling conditions Palestinians were living in, a horrible contrast with the modern israeli cities and Western lifestyle. I visited a kibutz built on Palestinian land and also visited and had tea with the desert nomads (usual touristic activities). I saw the rusting tanks on the sides of the road in the West Bank, vestiges and reminders of past conflicts. I went into that trip with a very positive vision of Israel but left with a very different mindset. I will never support the actions of the israeli government in the last 7 decades, same as I will never support Hamas and what they did on Oct. 7 or any other terrorist group. Neither the Israeli gov. nor Hamas care for the 2 million, suffering and helpless Palestinians that are now dying in troves. I have not protested on the streets, but I am completely against what is going on in that part of the world, something that would have never happened had the Palestinians not been displaced from their lands to create the state of Israel 75 years ago.
💯 Thanks for your comment. I’ve always respected Malcom, but this response is unsatisfactory to me. Most of the protesters are not supporting Hamas. The collective punishment must stop. I think the 2 state solution is dead because the Israeli government has bitten off more than their fair share of the apple. One state, equal rights for all sounds more plausible to me.
Glad Malcolm keeps his message clear. Domestic policy is not excluded by what we do for USA foreign policy. Domestic policy is about our USA will and who we elect ? Foreign policy is about strength. There is enough to do both, yet not the will and focus ?
Thank you, Mr. Martin and Mr. Nance. The voices of reason describe the reality of our world. Thank you for giving us your time and sharing your perspective based on years of selfless work in the region. We are grateful that Mr. Martin dedicated his time to giving this issue its true worth... It's refreshing to see adults regulate their emotions so that they can fully explain what's going on in the midst of a stinking pile of manure of undigested, unprocessed information that is provided in print, digitally and in podcasts or television. From the intentional FSB diarrhea sprayed all across the world via social media to the mindless, vapid, emotional sharts from clueless attention seeking dolts: it is nothing but endless dribble. Everyone out here is just grunting their tribal feelings and forgetting what makes civilization, civilization.
When the lady said people have been looking at this for decades, where do they begin? The chief obstacle to the two-state solution has been the refusal of the Palestinian leadership to accept the existence of Israel. How do you negotiate with someone who wants to begin the discussion with you abandoning your state?
Well, Bibi and his party have, essentially, by their actions of encroaching on Palestinian homes and lands, taken the same position as Hamas - denying the Palestinians’ right to live free in their own homes.
Malcolm Nance at his worst ?For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces? 10000 Palestinians killed: Malcolm Nance "Well, it's a start"
more like engaged in "whataboutism" than pushing back against it. in particular, when he commented on Sudan, Assad and other places Americans don't care about.
You can be critical of Israel without being anti semitic, but if you are tsking a position against israel while making it clear you have no understanding of the history and events of the area, your're going to appear antisemitic, whether you are or not.
Perfectly said, Mr. Nance! I hate to see political agendas fog the real issues and I hope everyone could listen to your comments. Kicking the can down the road only makes it harder for future generations. We need more fighters of freedom & humanity in this world. It's as simple as Good Vs. Evil.
Who is fighting for good and who is fighting for evil? Why are you not giving this perspective? ruclips.net/video/G1IbEUIYjUg/видео.htmlsi=lqHzZopmGLli40Mp
no mystery at all - a house divided will not stand - all the sophisticated tech in the world is worthless when people within the system do not operate as a unified people - that is as old as time. Why the united states people can not seem to accept that reality foretells the downfall
Nance quickly saying it's been a circular conflict and instead of elaborating why Israel being the larger power holds all the card to break the cycle, he's typically advocating for the cycle as usual approch and actually justifying the mass slaughter of Palestinians with bombs, it's like the israeli army isn't capable of going in and rooting out hamas instead of remote bombing which has killed more Palestinians already that the Initial attack, in one instance bombing an area full of civilians to possibly take out 1 hamas leader who I'm sure is irreplaceable and in nances estimation worth the civilian death toll. Childish 'what about-ism' against protests and even the bs Anti-semitism blanket claim to delegitimize the protests. I don't think he missed a single trope on the bingo card.
Don’t conflate the situation and circumstances in Gaza with the larger Palestinian issues…or forget that three offers of a state have been rejected by them. Modern India and Pakistan were established at the same time as Israel and managed to sort things out with a similar religious/ethnic frictions. (BTW Jordan was also established in the same territory as a Palestinian state.) and as Malcolm explained, Israel left Gaza (which had been under Egyptian control) and it has been run (into the ground) by Hamas since 2005.
excellent analogy - and they despise one another - it does not matter how long these conflicts have been - ultimately it comes down to a decision to live and try and prosper in peace - or go centuries of brutal conflict and misery for all - it really is not more complicated than that
Thank you Malcolm!!!!!!!! I so appreciate your perspective through your lens of great experience. The second woman opened my eyes to how others are seeing it creating so much turmoil and division. As always its the political views that create dissension and division as we well know here in The US . I too am really socked at the lack of support and community between Jews & Black people. A lot here to digest.I am curious what the last young man felt after you answered his question.
As a Nigerian American, I also wanted to shout out Malcolm Nance. The article that Roland Martin cited that called it the deadliest year in the West Bank, said that about 38 children had died so far in 2023. A tragedy, certainly, but as someone who pays attention to what goes on in Nigeria for instance, we know over 5000 Christians, including children were killed in the Northern part of Nigeria due to either Islamic terrorism or Religious violence, and another 5000 or so Christian either were kidnapped or sold into sexual slavery...and there's no war going on there. I'm not upset by this, can't rely on American empathy to solve every crisis or injustice in the world, but it at the very least, helps to put these tragedies and conflicts into perspective. Compared to all the major conflicts going on in the world today, what's going on between Hamas and Israel has a relatively low death count, mostly because the U.S. is restraining Israel from going all out, like they and their population wants to, and given what happened, has every right to. Americans, specifically lefties, confuse what they are passionate about with what is real. When Hamas executed those thousands of people, they did it with the intention and expectation that 10's of thousands of Palestinians would die, and if Israel wasn't under so much restraint due to the U.S. Government's intervention, it would probably be more like Yemen, where 100's of thousands of people will die. Israel is exercising a ton of restraint, I mean far more powerful nations have signed peace treaties rather than go to war with Israel due their capabilities, even Iran has avoided going to war with Israel despite the fact that many times Israel has gone into Iran air space to bomb strategic locations to undermine Iran's nuclear build up. So it's a joke, hearing all the kids marching, yelling that Israel is "murdering kids" or is committing war crimes, when it's basically doing everything it's doing with its hands tied behind it's back, while doing still taking care of Palestinians than Hamas has ever done.
Listen VERY CAREFULLY. Malcolm catching himself at approximately 16:39 substituting “settlements” for occupation should tell you everything along with repeating 1400 civilians killed by Hamas and the region history of cyclical conflict. Loved you Malcolm, but not anymore.
This is a lot different from normal Warfare because what is happening is exactly what Hamas intends to do they want the Muslim world to become incensed buy causing the death of as many Palestinians as possible. A ceasefire would have to come with both combatants agreeing to it which is impossible because Hamas has stated that they will continue throughout the millennium to commit the acts of October 7th😢
Malcolm Nance, is saying what he better say if he was to keep that government job. Education has nothing to do with it when Peoples all the worlds can see what happening in GAZA, And you Malcolm is defending an APARTHEID State. Peoples not Stupid.
I like Malcolm Nance but he also can't say some of the killing is genocide. Netanyaho supported Hamas. Against the Palestinian Authority. This will never end
It's so interesting contrasting everything this brother has said about Russian war crimes in the Ukraine conflict with what he is saying about this conflict. Grifters are gonna grift.
I like Malcolm, but I take exception to his statement that Isreal is not bombing civilians, you don't have to be a military expert to see the disproportionate casualties that is being wrought by Isreal, it's unsustainable and criminal by UN & ICC standards , Isreal is not the US , they do not possess the same values...militarily or culturally...the same measures that we take to protect civilians is not the same measures isreal takes...it's important to recognize the difference...the only way that we can back isreal from here on out , is for isreal to fully integrate Palestinians into the isreali social structure, no more apartheid, no more cultural bigotry, we cannot support isreal in its present form...that's the new reality.
The Imminent Mr. Nance is correct, we must be precise with our words and speak from an educated perspective. Thank you Mr. Nance for speaking truth! I'd like to see you debate Sean Hannity, you'd mop the floor with him.
Thanks Mr. Nance and Roland for all the helpful information 🙏🏾
If Malcolm don't kiss ass his voice would be silenced
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I’m so disappointed in this man. The gaslighting is shameful.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Malcolm Nance is a national treasure. Thank you so much for clarifying this situation and for your service to this nation
How you are doing this morning, I would like to say this to this man. I'm talking you might have been in the military, my brother, but won't you sit there and you tell that man a truth about Israel? Tell them about Israel bombing. The US navy ship off the coast of Egypt. You aint told him about that, huh? Yet I hate that they buried it. But I heard none of you from America. Talk about Israel bombing AUS navy spy ship. And let me say this to all you American citizens. When they killed them, people on that did worse than hamas did on the seventh.
And they told him people family. You better not say nothing. So look it up
I love Malcom, but respectfully I believe he’s wrong.
Israel is shattering the laws of war as we speak. Cutting of water, power, fuel, medicine, and food YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAWS OF WAR.
I am for Israel, but what they are doing is wrong. Just because they use F15’s and or Smart Bombs does not mean it’s not terrorism.
He clarified nothing. He's pushing a false narrative. I like Malcom but on this issue he's a spook! It's ridiculous and some of what he's saying has already been proven wrong. Malcolm is effing out of his TEETH! ABOUT ISRAEL ISN'T TARGETING CIVILIANS. THERE ARE VIDEOS OF IDF TARGETING CIVILIANS
He’s a real life James Greer from Jack Ryan. Total bad ass.
Read my reply, he's a gas bag.
I would like to experience Malcolm Nance speaking on every credible news platform. This is the clarity that is desperately needed in every sphere in which people are taking a stand, or spreading a message regarding this topic.
You will not. Malcolm Nance is persona non grata on major US media and will never again appear as a regular commentator. The reason is Malcolm Nance is a fraud. He does not have the intelligence career he claims. He has never been a Navy intelligence officer, he has never worked for the CIA. He did not participate in combat in Ukraine, and was kicked out of the Legion. They're glad he's gone. Malcolm Nance even lies about his family's history of service. He made that up. He's a reflexive liar who lies constantly and speaks with the supreme confidence of a sociopath.
Malcom Nance has invaluable experience with these matters and it is obvious. Thank you Roland for hosting this discussion.
Why don't you see and use your own intelligence instead of listening to these liars
This is quite possibly the most well educated and articulated breakdown of what is going on in Israel I have ever heard.
Dude is the best!
He is f ING one sided propagandist. A cheer leader for human suffering.
@@Hoppenoffer I hope to one day live in a dream world like you
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@@HoppenofferNetanyahu?
Wow.. Malcolm knows his geopolitics. This is all so touchy. There has to be a two-state solution.
This segment was was powerful ❗️ Thank you both Malcolm and Roland for this insightful discussion. We need more of this.
I hope that we have many years to benefit from both y'alls leadership in these stressing years now and to come! I watch and listen to you both Mr. Martin and Mr. Nance when the stuff hits the fan, I know I am going to get the real dope of the situation. Massive kudos to you all on the panel, thank you.
Thank you Malcom Nance! I hope I can get my millennial child to watch this interview because I’m not doing a great job explaining this stuff.
Thank you again Malcom Nance. The only thing that was missing from this segment is the connection Hamas has with Moscow, and how this is a distraction in many ways that Putler, in coordination with Iran, has incited and funded. The same genocide that has been committed in Ukraine is the goal of Hamas in Israel. I cannot stand Netanyahu or his lecud party. I only wish there was a way to extricate the Palestinian people from what is bound to become a very nasty assault on Hamas. If you wanted to support Palestinians, condemn Hamas. Thank you for your expertise on this subject, Malcom Nance. You are a National Treasure🇺🇸 💙💛
Condemn bibi for aiding Hamas to overpower the PLO and create this.
#Malcomb? A “national” treasure? No. He’s just a “black” dude with experience that he liberally shares. Especially his “ghetto” view! Spot on! 0:12
@@RobertHempazPhDTrichometry You’re clearly not smart.
I don't know why you got this man on your show because he don't know what the h*** he's talking about. He sit up there and talk about these people like they don't exist. But he aint telling you what is we'll have done to them to make them do what they have to do. To survive, he's not telling you that. Every country have the right to defend its country. But if you do something wrong to another part of that country and you control the lights they gas, they water electricity. You're not telling them. What they control? Tell them what Is Isreal control in that part of the country.
Who say you got to condemn them? You gotta condemn them. I don't have to condemn. How many United States of America I have freedom of speech. I do not have to condemn them. You may have to.
Alright alright Mr. Nance. Outstanding information. Thank you. Thank you Roland for having Mr. Nance on the show.
Thank you Malcolm people in the US aren't paying attention to the beginning like some of us.
He's a gifter and a fraud. The people are sorry he's black but he's a joke
Malcolm and everyone, excellent debate on this unfortunate situation. Thank you.
This was a very interesting/informative exchange. Malcolm always does well. It was very helpful to hear his analysis.
Great interview, with intelligent views from all sides.
analysis.? more like propaganda.
@@persebra well , looks like you are just throuing same uslees, baseless cliche , no facts, no prove ...that is propaganda !
Bravo Malcolm Nance educating non military minds.
yes, it was a good lesson in propaganda.
He can't keep using that military background excuse to justify every position because there are persons with military background that oppose Israel's actions
Malcolm, your work is so important. Thank you, I listened to every word.
Thank you , Malcolm! Clear, objective, professional, knowledgeable.
Malcolm & Martin....history repeats itself yet with jazz-like improvisational interpretations of itself. lifeisdope
I watched this on the day it aired. Thank you Roland for having Malcolm on the show.
He gave an excellent assessment on the situation . I love him. He is the most intelligent and knowledgeable person on any and all political situations in the world. ❤❤❤❤
I wrote a paper on Malcolm Nance. I have great respect for him, thank you for being you Mr. Nance. Everyday people do not understand the whole picture. They can not even understand the logistics that are involved in this situation. Stay safe and please keep informing the people who are letting their emotions blind them, they do not know the whole truth.
I am partly Jewish, I am for Israel. But someday Netanyahu will be judged as a war criminal.
Bibi is Ahab and Jezebel wrapped as one. Why the Israelis don’t get rid of him is baffling. They keep wandering in the desert; haven’t learned a thing. They are repeating the same mistakes and expecting a different result. Mistreating the innocent and poor never wins. Gives new meaning to the expression “stiff-necked.”
His rhetoric was responsible for Rabin’s assassination.
Yeah his day is coming - I am not expert but as near as i can tell the only reason he was there is he was thought to be so brutal he served as a deterrent to Palestinian attacks - but now that bubble burst - he serves no actual purpose - he is just a criminal
Yes!!!
He IS a war criminal
so good to hear the truth....
Thank you Malcom Nance🇺🇸🔱🇺🇦Slava Ukraini
He's a gifter Washington Post did a whole story on this guy. He's a fraud a fake and just making money.... Let's remember him saying,,, He's done talking and went off to fight the Russians..... All Ukrainian men are dead but he's still here. Malcom is a joke joke joke
@@somethinglikethat212: How much does the “troll” farm in #RazPutin’s gulag pay you daily to type such tripe?
Thank you Malcolm Nance for bringing some clarity to my perspective on this issue. Man, I wish you had a larger presence on the media!
And Putin and Iran are happy because this is what they wanted.
Thank you for this, good Sir. Your take on this is pretty much the same as mine, which makes me feel better about my conflicting feelings. I am anti-war, and I understand the need deal with terrorists. It just makes me sad that people can't/won't do better.
Thanks for bringing clarity and appropriate values to this situation, Malcom.❤
I just sat here and watched the entire video. Your discussions and depth of knowledge are world class. I hope your audience grows every day.
If Hamas had built their tunnels underneath Israel, and were hiding under the hospitals and schools in Israel, would Nance suggest that they bomb the hospitals and schools in Israel with women and children in them in order to eradicate Hamas?
Would he consider the Israeli Women and children collateral damage?
Where has this show been all my life?
Nance clarified a few things for me. He confirmed what I already had read about Ntenyahu's ties to Hamas. He also clarified that he, by his own admission is a diehard, biased, anti-terrorist operative and that's all he sees. Did he ever answer the honorable ladie's question? Did he have any solution besides "SLOWLY" killing any Palestinians that get in the way of Hamas? How about food, water, and electricity? As a Black Jew, I held Nance's opinions very high. Not with him, on this one he is laser focused on anti-terrorism and civilians are just collateral damage to him.
I always appreciate your insight into these complicated situations.
I follow your reasoning and am of a similar mindset. I considered his commentary impassioned, but nuanced and fair.
Tragic that the same Prime Minister who thought he could use Hamas against the Palestinian authority is the one who's in charge of cleaning up this horror. It just wasn't going to happen that he resign or be forced out. I'm not filled with hope.
Actually, it's not really Netanyahu. The Israeli support for the early stages of Hamas goes back to the 80s, and is not recent. The way it was represented in the video made it sound like a Netanyahu policy, but it goes way back before any of his governments.
One can be anti trump , without being anti American. It is just the trumpers that can not see that distinction . Same problem with being anti far right Israelis without being anti semitic.
The part u left out the trumpers have no political anything it’s about whiteness and playing the victim and nothing else the Palestines are brown and that’s all they see so giving them any credit for having an ideology for the people is the biggest misconception, misnomers and oxymorons ever!!
Definitely, it’s funny how we who voted for Biden Can disagree with him on this issue but the Trumpers support their Fuhrer unconditionally: I see this as the crux of the problem
As a black person who had military family members and who’s mother served, one thing I think that happens in the black community is that we conflate our personal feelings about white supremacy with broader international issues and conflicts. While I understand why it happens, I wish that people understood that it’s is basically because of our military presence that we are able to live the lives that we do.
This conflict alone is going to destabilize oil prices which will hit black and poor Americans the most. Then people will blame Biden, as though he went into Isreal and killed 1400 people.
The failure to see the bigger picture and the nuances of war and politics keep us trapped and pretending like there are “two sides” to what is sometimes actually a 5-6 sided issue that mandates a higher level of compromise and cognition.
I have to think about your point about white supremacy I don't think I completely understand what you are saying . As far as the blaming Biden - that has already happened and all the protests over the weekend are a real head scratcher - to me. I don't know that this really does much to oil prices - they are already artificially inflated by opec with the intention of sabotaging Biden. The traditional US adversaries badly, obviously want Trump as president and are putting their thumbs on the scale as much as possible to see to that outcome . They can get over on him sooooooooo much easier and he certainly is not going to hold them accountable for plunder
The Jewish people today are not the Israelites of Scripture Prophecy in Jer 30 and 31.
@@MichaelSmith-qc7nkYour point, if there is one? No one deserves to be tortured and dismembered! Hamas was not going after enemy combatants, or police stations, or border security, they slaughtered civilians. Their goal was evil personified. They are vile cowards. Your comment is absurd.
Well put, thank you.
@@ELL289 wake up! Post the verse(s) in Jer 30 and 31 that actually apply to the Jewish people today, can u do that? Thx.
Malcolm is a hugh voice of knowledge.
Roland Martin…thank you.
i normally like Nance, but his line of reasoning on this issue is totally INSANE. all of his military expertease and his uses it for babbling nonsense.
if you have a killer who has committed mass murder and hid in a neighboring house full of people. With the state of Isreal is doing and Malcoms agrees with it, they are not only bombing the house, they are bombing the entire neighborhood, cutting the water and power, demanding the people of the neighboorhood are equally as guilty as the criminal and
Israel is exploiting this act of terrorism and using it to ethnically cleanse and land grab.
this is totally evil.
Love Malcolm Nance! A real American patriot who understands the issues.
If you learn the history you not agree with Malcolm you don't steal from someone and expect to live in peace
M. Nance is no joke. His experiential wisdom is real, and his guidance and assessments are almost always correct.
Roland did not challenge this justification of genocide.
Wow...huge respects for all the panelists, the host, and Mr. Nance.
What an excellent discussion. Utmost respect for Mr Nance. Please do an update now 9 weeks on.
Thank you both for addressing this situation. War on the ground is a lot different than war imagined.
With all my respects, Mr. Nance, I disagree. You are a man of war, a strategist, and see things from a different perspective than the average, albeit informed person. You cannot throw everyone who is against Israel’s actions in this conflict in the same bag. I am a 63 y/o European (now an U.S. citizen as well, having lived here for decades) and a lifelong historian who did a tour of Israel and the West Bank in the 1986-87 period, during a truce, with the streets of Israel filled with soldiers armed to their teeth. I saw with my very own eyes, in horror and shock, the appalling conditions Palestinians were living in, a horrible contrast with the modern israeli cities and Western lifestyle. I visited a kibutz built on Palestinian land and also visited and had tea with the desert nomads (usual touristic activities). I saw the rusting tanks on the sides of the road in the West Bank, vestiges and reminders of past conflicts. I went into that trip with a very positive vision of Israel but left with a very different mindset. I will never support the actions of the israeli government in the last 7 decades, same as I will never support Hamas and what they did on Oct. 7 or any other terrorist group. Neither the Israeli gov. nor Hamas care for the 2 million, suffering and helpless Palestinians that are now dying in troves.
I have not protested on the streets, but I am completely against what is going on in that part of the world, something that would have never happened had the Palestinians not been displaced from their lands to create the state of Israel 75 years ago.
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Thanks for your comment.
I’ve always respected Malcom, but this response is unsatisfactory to me. Most of the protesters are not supporting Hamas.
The collective punishment must stop.
I think the 2 state solution is dead because the Israeli government has bitten off more than their fair share of the apple.
One state, equal rights for all sounds more plausible to me.
Malcolm you always tell the truth about what is going on.
Thanks Malcolm.
Its officially a genocide and/or invasion by Israeli forces...... and this criticism should not lead to antisemitism.
Glad Malcolm keeps his message clear. Domestic policy is not excluded by what we do for USA foreign policy. Domestic policy is about our USA will and who we elect ? Foreign policy is about strength. There is enough to do both, yet not the will and focus ?
Thank you, Malcolm Nance! 😍
Thank you Martin. Thank you Malcolm.
Thank you, Mr. Martin and Mr. Nance. The voices of reason describe the reality of our world.
Thank you for giving us your time and sharing your perspective based on years of selfless work in the region.
We are grateful that Mr. Martin dedicated his time to giving this issue its true worth...
It's refreshing to see adults regulate their emotions so that they can fully explain what's going on in the midst of a stinking pile of manure of undigested, unprocessed information that is provided in print, digitally and in podcasts or television.
From the intentional FSB diarrhea sprayed all across the world via social media to the mindless, vapid, emotional sharts from clueless attention seeking dolts: it is nothing but endless dribble.
Everyone out here is just grunting their tribal feelings and forgetting what makes civilization, civilization.
I stand with Malcolm...and I expect it's not going to be pretty
We Need Look Deeper than what is Being played on the Media.
Very well said across the board. Thank you Malcom.
This is the first time I've ever disagreed with you Malcolm. The Palestinians have been living under an apartheid government for decades.
When the lady said people have been looking at this for decades, where do they begin? The chief obstacle to the two-state solution has been the refusal of the Palestinian leadership to accept the existence of Israel. How do you negotiate with someone who wants to begin the discussion with you abandoning your state?
It's the ileagal settlements
Legally siezing farms from Arabs
Well, Bibi and his party have, essentially, by their actions of encroaching on Palestinian homes and lands, taken the same position as Hamas - denying the Palestinians’ right to live free in their own homes.
It doesn't help that Netanyahu doesn't want two states either and actually supported Hamas.
@@sabinebradley5345 I would say that he accidentally supported Hamas. No, Netanyahu does not want a two-state solution, which is why he needs to go.
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He helped Hamas against Fatah and as far as I know, even gave money to them.
Don't you just want to give him a big hug and say Thank You For Your Lifetime Service Sir.❤
Well said sis!
Malcolm Nance at his worst
?For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces?
10000 Palestinians killed: Malcolm Nance "Well, it's a start"
This exchange has been eye opening on his shortsighted perspective.
@@KiDCRuDi_ I don't think so.
Two STRONG BROTHER
Bronx Love guyz 😎
Kudos to Malcom for pushing back against the "whataboutism".
more like engaged in "whataboutism" than pushing back against it. in particular, when he commented on Sudan, Assad and other places Americans don't care about.
Thank you, Malcolm Nance. You make the events clear.
Thank you for your deeply informed analyses on this complex situation.
You can be critical of Israel without being anti semitic, but if you are tsking a position against israel while making it clear you have no understanding of the history and events of the area, your're going to appear antisemitic, whether you are or not.
Perfectly said, Mr. Nance! I hate to see political agendas fog the real issues and I hope everyone could listen to your comments. Kicking the can down the road only makes it harder for future generations. We need more fighters of freedom & humanity in this world. It's as simple as Good Vs. Evil.
Who is fighting for good and who is fighting for evil?
Why are you not giving this perspective?
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Why didn't Netanyahu know they were going to be attacked with his extremely high tech intelligence? It's a mystery.
He was too busy evicting Palestinians from their homes and giving them to Israelis in the West Bank?
Netanyahu believed Putin and that was his mistake. A very bad mistake.
no mystery at all - a house divided will not stand - all the sophisticated tech in the world is worthless when people within the system do not operate as a unified people - that is as old as time. Why the united states people can not seem to accept that reality foretells the downfall
False flag?
He did know. The Egyptians told him.
Nance quickly saying it's been a circular conflict and instead of elaborating why Israel being the larger power holds all the card to break the cycle, he's typically advocating for the cycle as usual approch and actually justifying the mass slaughter of Palestinians with bombs, it's like the israeli army isn't capable of going in and rooting out hamas instead of remote bombing which has killed more Palestinians already that the Initial attack, in one instance bombing an area full of civilians to possibly take out 1 hamas leader who I'm sure is irreplaceable and in nances estimation worth the civilian death toll. Childish 'what about-ism' against protests and even the bs Anti-semitism blanket claim to delegitimize the protests. I don't think he missed a single trope on the bingo card.
Don’t conflate the situation and circumstances in Gaza with the larger Palestinian issues…or forget that three offers of a state have been rejected by them. Modern India and Pakistan were established at the same time as Israel and managed to sort things out with a similar religious/ethnic frictions. (BTW Jordan was also established in the same territory as a Palestinian state.) and as Malcolm explained, Israel left Gaza (which had been under Egyptian control) and it has been run (into the ground) by Hamas since 2005.
excellent analogy - and they despise one another - it does not matter how long these conflicts have been - ultimately it comes down to a decision to live and try and prosper in peace - or go centuries of brutal conflict and misery for all - it really is not more complicated than that
Brilliant, thank you
Thanks for your hard work
Thank you! Great explanation!!
Malcolm is the real deal. Run for President
Bullshit
You would have the same thing as Trump another liar
Hamas has no rules.
Excellent job… more people need to understand this horrible situation
Thank you all
Malcom Nance. War Hero American warrior. Big up! Salute brother!
Thank you Malcolm!!!!!!!! I so appreciate your perspective through your lens of great experience. The second woman opened my eyes to how others are seeing it creating so much turmoil and division. As always its the political views that create dissension and division as we well know here in The US . I too am really socked at the lack of support and community between Jews & Black people. A lot here to digest.I am curious what the last young man felt after you answered his question.
As a Nigerian American, I also wanted to shout out Malcolm Nance. The article that Roland Martin cited that called it the deadliest year in the West Bank, said that about 38 children had died so far in 2023. A tragedy, certainly, but as someone who pays attention to what goes on in Nigeria for instance, we know over 5000 Christians, including children were killed in the Northern part of Nigeria due to either Islamic terrorism or Religious violence, and another 5000 or so Christian either were kidnapped or sold into sexual slavery...and there's no war going on there. I'm not upset by this, can't rely on American empathy to solve every crisis or injustice in the world, but it at the very least, helps to put these tragedies and conflicts into perspective. Compared to all the major conflicts going on in the world today, what's going on between Hamas and Israel has a relatively low death count, mostly because the U.S. is restraining Israel from going all out, like they and their population wants to, and given what happened, has every right to.
Americans, specifically lefties, confuse what they are passionate about with what is real. When Hamas executed those thousands of people, they did it with the intention and expectation that 10's of thousands of Palestinians would die, and if Israel wasn't under so much restraint due to the U.S. Government's intervention, it would probably be more like Yemen, where 100's of thousands of people will die. Israel is exercising a ton of restraint, I mean far more powerful nations have signed peace treaties rather than go to war with Israel due their capabilities, even Iran has avoided going to war with Israel despite the fact that many times Israel has gone into Iran air space to bomb strategic locations to undermine Iran's nuclear build up.
So it's a joke, hearing all the kids marching, yelling that Israel is "murdering kids" or is committing war crimes, when it's basically doing everything it's doing with its hands tied behind it's back, while doing still taking care of Palestinians than Hamas has ever done.
Listen VERY CAREFULLY. Malcolm catching himself at approximately 16:39 substituting “settlements” for occupation should tell you everything along with repeating 1400 civilians killed by Hamas and the region history of cyclical conflict. Loved you Malcolm, but not anymore.
This is a lot different from normal Warfare because what is happening is exactly what Hamas intends to do they want the Muslim world to become incensed buy causing the death of as many Palestinians as possible. A ceasefire would have to come with both combatants agreeing to it which is impossible because Hamas has stated that they will continue throughout the millennium to commit the acts of October 7th😢
Malcolm's filibuster to justify Netanyahu's slaughtering of little children is repulsive.
Malcolm Nance, is saying what he better say if he was to keep that government job. Education has nothing to do with it when Peoples all the worlds can see what happening in GAZA, And you Malcolm is defending an APARTHEID State. Peoples not Stupid.
Thank you, Malcom!
Thank you for having Malcolm Nance on. He speaks with clarity, integrity, intelligence, and, extremely importantly, experience.
Thank you!
I like Malcolm Nance but he also can't say some of the killing is genocide. Netanyaho supported Hamas. Against the Palestinian Authority.
This will never end
Malcom, insulting folks who don’t agree with you!!! Shameful, I used to respect your opinion, not any more!!
Malcom did his homework ...
Malcolm just got back from Qatar. He did not do his homework. HE EXPERIENCED HIS JOB WORK
Mr. Nance. 100% Clear on the issue.
It's so interesting contrasting everything this brother has said about Russian war crimes in the Ukraine conflict with what he is saying about this conflict. Grifters are gonna grift.
Political talking point for the media, That’s all Israel is!
Malcolm Nance is brought and paid for.....
Malcolm is a spook and can't be trusted on this issue.
And at 21:55 self righteous person comes in and sidetracks the convo with her self esteem issues. It's not about how YOU feel.
You are not the only one that has been studying the Israeli Palestinian situation.
Malcom Nance gets it. He has the correct understanding of this nightmare, It has been and will be eternal enmity!
I like Malcolm, but I take exception to his statement that Isreal is not bombing civilians, you don't have to be a military expert to see the disproportionate casualties that is being wrought by Isreal, it's unsustainable and criminal by UN & ICC standards , Isreal is not the US , they do not possess the same values...militarily or culturally...the same measures that we take to protect civilians is not the same measures isreal takes...it's important to recognize the difference...the only way that we can back isreal from here on out , is for isreal to fully integrate Palestinians into the isreali social structure, no more apartheid, no more cultural bigotry, we cannot support isreal in its present form...that's the new reality.
The Imminent Mr. Nance is correct, we must be precise with our words and speak from an educated perspective. Thank you Mr. Nance for speaking truth! I'd like to see you debate Sean Hannity, you'd mop the floor with him.
Great info Malcolm. I find Martin’s banner asking for money despicable