Yes. Exactly what I was after, thank you. I think it's critical that you mentioned there being more than one way to do it. That little revelation alone might be a game changer for anyone just trying to figure it out by seeing several people do it, but not knowing that each of the several people seen could be doing it a different way leaving the unenlightened spectator kind of chasing their own tail.
Well, if you are taking requests, perhaps you can point me in the right direction on this. I have a Burke #4 mill and the spindle orf this mill is a B&S#9. I would like to use a set of MT2 collets with this mill. That means I need to turn a B&S#9 external taper with a MT2 internal taper. Can you demonstrate something like this and how to keep the tapers concentric to each other? Joe
I have thought of a way to possibly make this adapter on the lathe. However, I realized that isn't going to be the main problem. Both the B&S and MT tapers are locking. When doing a tooling change, if by chance the adapter releases from the spindle before the collet releases from the adapter, then your tooling changes will not be quick and easy. You will have to add an extra step to the process getting the MT2 collet out of the adapter. There are two options to think about... 1) The #9 and R8 are about the same size. It is possible to have the spindle reground to accept R8 collets. R8 collets are pretty cheap but I doubt having the spindle reground is. 2) Use a #9 to ER collet adapter. ER collets are relatively cheap. You can either make your own adapter or there are several sellers on ebay that have them. The biggest downside to this is a loss of rigidity and quill travel. The ER adapter will add a few inches to the end of the spindle. As long as you are aware of this and compensate accordingly it shouldn't be to much of an issue. With that said, I'm still willing to make an adapter and will show that in a future video. However, I'm not convinced it is the best option in your case.
I had not thought of the tapers both locking together and perhaps I should rethink my game plane. The Burke #4 is a benchtop horizontal milling machine, mine was built in late 40's early 50's. I have read that the spindle could be reground to accept a R8, but I would prefer to leave the machine as built. The use of the MT2 collets was simply because I had them. I originally bought them for my Atlas 10F, I had planned to use the MT3-MT2 sleeve with them. I have not used them yet and thought maybe I could get double duty if I could use them on the mill too. Hindsight being a wonderful tool, I should have bought MT3 collets. I just don't want them to go to waste. Maybe it would be best for me to locate B&S#9 collets. I think they are out there, or maybe make some BS9 endmill holders as I need them. Still, turning a taper in a taper and keeping it concentric perplexes me, and as an educational video I think it would be great. To date, I have not found an example on YT. If you look at my videos, you will see that I am a newbie. So thank you sir for helping this newbie grow in knowledge. Joe
Getting the B&S collets are certainly a great option. There is a seller on amazon that has a set of 11 collets. www.amazon.com/Brown-Sharpe-Taper-Collet-16Ths/dp/B01BH5Q90Q If you don't want to drop the money on a complete set, you can buy individual collets as you need them. Little Machine Shop has them for about $15/collet, not including shipping. That is what I was doing when I was using MT3 collets in my South Bend. littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=4313 I will do a video on making a sleeve in the future. It should be an interesting process.
Thank you for the links. I will most likely order the collets as I need them. I still have to get the machine together. Also, thank you for taking the time to help me and thank you in advance for showing how to make such a little monster! I appreciate it. And thank you for subbing me. :-) Joe
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Thank you! :)
You are very welcome. I hope it's what you were looking for.
Yes. Exactly what I was after, thank you. I think it's critical that you mentioned there being more than one way to do it. That little revelation alone might be a game changer for anyone just trying to figure it out by seeing several people do it, but not knowing that each of the several people seen could be doing it a different way leaving the unenlightened spectator kind of chasing their own tail.
I would love to see you make micrometer dials for the barker (so I can copy what you do on my barker).
Don't worry, that is coming. I'm in the process of gathering all the tooling I need.
Nice. That is the way I am doing it now. I am much slower. Thanks
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Well, if you are taking requests, perhaps you can point me in the right direction on this. I have a Burke #4 mill and the spindle orf this mill is a B&S#9. I would like to use a set of MT2 collets with this mill. That means I need to turn a B&S#9 external taper with a MT2 internal taper. Can you demonstrate something like this and how to keep the tapers concentric to each other?
Joe
I'll have to think on that one. But it should be doable. Stay tuned.
I have thought of a way to possibly make this adapter on the lathe. However, I realized that isn't going to be the main problem. Both the B&S and MT tapers are locking. When doing a tooling change, if by chance the adapter releases from the spindle before the collet releases from the adapter, then your tooling changes will not be quick and easy. You will have to add an extra step to the process getting the MT2 collet out of the adapter.
There are two options to think about...
1) The #9 and R8 are about the same size. It is possible to have the spindle reground to accept R8 collets. R8 collets are pretty cheap but I doubt having the spindle reground is.
2) Use a #9 to ER collet adapter. ER collets are relatively cheap. You can either make your own adapter or there are several sellers on ebay that have them. The biggest downside to this is a loss of rigidity and quill travel. The ER adapter will add a few inches to the end of the spindle. As long as you are aware of this and compensate accordingly it shouldn't be to much of an issue.
With that said, I'm still willing to make an adapter and will show that in a future video. However, I'm not convinced it is the best option in your case.
I had not thought of the tapers both locking together and perhaps I should rethink my game plane. The Burke #4 is a benchtop horizontal milling machine, mine was built in late 40's early 50's. I have read that the spindle could be reground to accept a R8, but I would prefer to leave the machine as built.
The use of the MT2 collets was simply because I had them. I originally bought them for my Atlas 10F, I had planned to use the MT3-MT2 sleeve with them. I have not used them yet and thought maybe I could get double duty if I could use them on the mill too. Hindsight being a wonderful tool, I should have bought MT3 collets. I just don't want them to go to waste.
Maybe it would be best for me to locate B&S#9 collets. I think they are out there, or maybe make some BS9 endmill holders as I need them.
Still, turning a taper in a taper and keeping it concentric perplexes me, and as an educational video I think it would be great. To date, I have not found an example on YT.
If you look at my videos, you will see that I am a newbie. So thank you sir for helping this newbie grow in knowledge.
Joe
Getting the B&S collets are certainly a great option. There is a seller on amazon that has a set of 11 collets.
www.amazon.com/Brown-Sharpe-Taper-Collet-16Ths/dp/B01BH5Q90Q
If you don't want to drop the money on a complete set, you can buy individual collets as you need them. Little Machine Shop has them for about $15/collet, not including shipping. That is what I was doing when I was using MT3 collets in my South Bend.
littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=4313
I will do a video on making a sleeve in the future. It should be an interesting process.
Thank you for the links. I will most likely order the collets as I need them. I still have to get the machine together. Also, thank you for taking the time to help me and thank you in advance for showing how to make such a little monster! I appreciate it.
And thank you for subbing me. :-)
Joe
Why did you stop???