Morrissey - The National Front Disco | Reaction! (Oh, So That's What This Song's About)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- I thought I reacted to this one before, but I was mistaken! Coming into it, I didn't know what to expect, but there was a lot to discover. Nevertheless, it's a smashing tune and Moz soars on it. Oh, and Spencer Cobrin does too.
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Lifelong Smiths and Moz fan getting to hug him on stage in 1995 Boxers tour and met him at Dublin airport and leaving awkwardness aside I approached him and he was clearly not happy but signed my ticket and shook hands with me managing a sincere Thank You. ☘️📚🇬🇧
All people deserve a homeland of their own, its that simple. It’s the human right of ‘the right to self determination’ thats meant to be protected by the UN. People can call it far-right if they like, but many people who hold this view share leftist views like social healthcare and other social safety net policies. In fact, I’d argue that you cannot advocate for open borders AND a national health service, it overstrains the system and your constantly adding new patients that haven’t payed into the system to prop it up. A constant flow of mass immigration also depresses wages and increases demand on the housing market, thus driving the housing prices.
Just something to think about 🤷🏻♂️
Never understood the controversy about this song, and I'm about as left leaning as they come. Just brilliant lyrically and instrumentally. No one else in Pop could write and release a song like this except Moz.
Check out Our Frank from Kill Uncle next! Great tune, funny lyrics and heavily underrated :)
Unfortunately a lot of people are very literal minded, a deficiency not limited to either side of the political fence. So many dopes think that making art about a subject is the same thing as endorsing it.
@@shenanigans3710 Such people are killing art.
Because its easy to hate...and that isnt Morrissey. Just the bigots who hate Englishness.
@@pauldrummyb2017 Indeed it is but takes strength to be gentle and kind. Best wishes 📚
England for the English
Despite the controversy, this song is not promoting The National Front but the opposite. I'm glad you picked up on Morrissey's tone of voice. David's family and friends are lamenting that they've "'lost' their boy" to the far right group. "England for the English" is in quotes, the slogan of the NF, repeated lamentably by the narrator. The notion of a National Front 'Disco' is meant to be laughably ridiculous, it also paints the NF as a group that preys on young people. One interesting interpretation of the song is that it's about David Bowie, who during the mid 70s became fixated with fascist mythology and Nazi imagery, even stating in an interview that he 'believe['s] very strongly in Fascism' and calling Hitler 'one of the first rock stars'. It's an interesting take but i'm not sure. Absolute belter of a song all in all!
David Mellor. Brother of Joe Strummer. Born in Turkey and came to England in his teens. He joined the National Front in an effort to become accepted. He committed suicide in later life.
@@1011moz Yeah that's another interesting one and I think probably more likely.
@@1011moz Not THAT David Mellor of course.
Of course not the toe sucking one. Lol.
@@1011moz I think it was his toes that were sucked!
Great reaction Nick and I’m glad you’re feeling better!
Thank you!
To those who really get this song, you're not alone
Great song and great album! Back in '92 I had no idea what the National Front was (hardly know now!) but I knew it was a good song! Please react to 'I Thought You Were Dead'. It's a b-side but a good one as typical for Morrissey. Side note, I love your facial expressions when you listen to songs :)
My first reaction to this song, with the story line, was that it was Morrissey, taking the mickey out of David Bowie's 'flirtation with fascism' in the 1970s...
Exactly... with Mick Ronson producing, I was thinking the same.
Mick Ronson produced it. So it's fucking tops.
Alan and Boz at their best.
I was so fortunate to have caught this line up on two of his tours in the mid 1990s and on one I took the girlfriend to two venues for the same tour and vividly proved that when a band is on fire they can melt steel but if it’s not a good night you can miss out dreadfully. 👍☘️
Love it.
I still don't know how some people get this one wrong. I always thought it was pretty smart and a little funny XD
Also, I think it's time to bring the Manics back to your channel ;)
Yeah I know especially when Morrissey has been writing songs (not every one of them!) like a story or a "teleplay" with different characters with different perspectives.
@@oscillatewildly6553 There are two perspectives in the song. Davey and the Singer. Neither expresses any hostility to the National Front at all.
Oh...Ohhhh. Now you did it, you shared your political preference. It's a great tune, I really enjoy Morrissey's voice on this track.
I can't imagine many of Nick's followers think any differently.
A great review by someone who understands. ❤
Definitely one of his most controversial songs, lyrically. I’ve always loved the energy of it, especially live. One of my favourites from this album is a song called ‘we’ll let you know’. I don’t think you’ve reached to it yet.
Edit: I’ve just realised you’ve already reacted to ‘We’ll let you know’. There is another track from this album that you haven’t though, ‘Certain people I know’ it has a nice rockabilly sound and some quirky lyrics.
The NF party actually did put on Discos
And the other kinda funny thing about them (but not for the bands) When 2 Tone broke they'd go to the gigs but just dance and have fun. But the bands (all being with Black members in them) They always were worried something Racial would break out. Watch the Skinhead (Suedhead} documentary It's great
Well, they never get it. A really slow kind of people
This is a great song,the lyrics of the song very anti racist (if you read between the lines) and Morrissey and the band are having a great time here lol..superb track.
This is one of my favourite Morrissey songs; because you/ I [the listener] are required to think & not just take the lyrics at face value.
Personally I have always heard this song as a lament of a disenfranchised boy & his family. He says that life's opportunities are slipping away from him. And unfortunately he's fallen under the spell of the far right/ NF. Who offer a [distorted] explanation as to why his life seems so far out of reach.
Sadly the character David's story is not unique; many people have fallen for the far rights rhetoric & lies. Especially during times of economic crisis. I would love to say that the ideology of the NF is dead & buried in the UK.But you only have to look at our home secretaries rhetoric around an "invasion" on our shores. To see that the poisonous language of the far right has become mainstream in our politics!
Sadly we never seem to be able to fully free ourselves from.such poisonous language.
Whatever people's view of Morrissey may be these days. This a brilliant evocation of the sadness at lives lost to far right hate groups.
Morrissey himself is Right Wing, and nothing about the song is negative to the National Front. Indeed, the first few times Morrissey performed the song, he invited National Front members on to the stage. The song is simply about a friends who gets in to politics and starts moving with a new crowd. The singer never criticizes the National Front or their politics. He merely wonders if the confrontation they are preparing for is ever really going to happen and whether Davey will in fact get a chance to settle the score (which by the plain language implies that yes, the singer does believe there is a score to be settled).
There aint no front like the National Front
This isn’t exactly what it appears to be when you consider Stevens penchant for jumping into other characters with his songs and I place importance on the first line David, the wind blows…. There is a notorious right wing nail bomber called David Copeland. Just my thoughts. #Asleep
Strange thing with Morrissey is that during his Smiths years he was catalogued on the left ring, writing about some fights usually defended by this side and he moved to US and he turned his view on the right.... Despite some could say he's popular with Mexican American community but most of them are strongly attach ed to their community. Seems he take this narrow minded...
Sorry for my English lol
Morrissey has always been right wing. People get confused because the media labels Thatcher "right wing" and Morrissey despised her. But the actual Right Wing (National Front and other Far Right Groups) all despised Thatcher too. The problem was the media was too unsophisticated to understand that Morrissey's disgust with Thatcher came from a Right Wing perspective, not a Left Wing one.
Are you letting your beard grow? or the next reaction will be the ZZTop? 😁🧔♂️
We have a party quite close to the NF here. And they're not very funny either.
When the beard starts coming in, I'm either sick or moody. And I literally just shaved 5 minutes ago as I write this!
@@InsignificantNick so RIP beard 😥
Where’s “here” out of interest?
@@jonathancole833 France
@@youtpfpm6097 Ah yes!
funny there are never far-left parties or positions. How is that possible if there's far right? (not really in reference the the National Front, which I know nothing about.
All people deserve a homeland of their own, its that simple. People can call it far-right if they like, but many people who hold this view share leftist views like social healthcare and other social safety net policies. In fact, I’d argue that you cannot advocate for open borders AND a national health service, it overstrains the system and your constantly adding new patients that haven’t payed into the system to prop it up. A constant flow of mass immigration also depresses wages and increases demand on the housing market, thus driving the housing prices.
Just something to think about 🤷🏻♂️
"You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies." -Morrissey
"If you go through history, almost everyone is guilty of sleeping with minors." -Morrissey
Why would anyone defend such statements?
I can't and won't.
When did he say the thing about minors?? Was he not being sarcastic? Also, the comment about The Chinese was due to their treatment of animals, so one could call it racist whereas another could call it pro animal rights surely?
Context
It's accurate in the case of the elites anyways- they are always going after the young. I even heard jean Paul Sarte was into youngins.
More lies from Arthur. Read his other posts, a far left bigot with an agenda. Best to block.
This is actually a good song but, unfortunately, the lyrics allow doubt to be cast on Morrissey's personal politics. His views on vegetarianism, the monarchy and Margaret Thatcher were plainly expressed, which caused some to ask why he was reluctant to properly address a violent and appallingly racist political faction. In retrospect, I think he'd regret allowing this and "Bengali in platforms" to be included as album tracks.
They only allow doubt re Morrissey's politcal views if you refuse to engage or are unable to engage with the song's actual meaning. And I can't imagine Morrissey would regret including either song on his albums as they are both fantastic.
Don't think Moz does regret
Try cultivating a sense of humour and keen sense of social commentary and then listen to the tracks again. See ?
@@ianfink9277 I never thought Morrissey was a racist. My comment related to other people, especially the British music press, who appeared keen to bring down a former hero.
@@marcharley6465 That's their problem, not his. Why should Morrissey capitulate to the music press?
I've got nothing good to say about Morrissey.
Proof that not everyone is smart.
When’s that thunder gonna begin man