Sister Wives Maddie Brown Exposes Kody's SERIOUS FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, DISTURBING NEGLECT OF HIS KIDS

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @Bunchoeves
    @Bunchoeves 19 дней назад +467

    Continuing to have more children when you can't feed the ones you have had got to be the height of irresponsibility.

    • @stephaniediaz5617
      @stephaniediaz5617 19 дней назад +34

      From both parents

    • @janetpoulin9187
      @janetpoulin9187 19 дней назад +18

      All their children have been successful , except for Garrison doing what he did .
      He was drunk and maybe didn’t know what he was doing .
      It all goes back to Kody being a flake of a father .
      The show “ Sister Wives “ was very successful at showing the world how horrible the fathers can be . Having so many children , ignoring their needs , playing favorites , being an absent father , and throwing children out on the street .

    • @zanelemofikoe4800
      @zanelemofikoe4800 19 дней назад +19

      Let’s be honest though, their belief system and way of life contributes to most of this

    • @madelineburns6405
      @madelineburns6405 19 дней назад

      @@janetpoulin9187Garrison was successful. He graduated college. Was in the service. He had a job and had bought a house. He had demons and they won. But that child was successful.

    • @Bunchoeves
      @Bunchoeves 19 дней назад +12

      @@zanelemofikoe4800 a lot of it yes. In the mainstream LDS Church I'm pretty sure I was told that money should never be a reason to not have children.

  • @jae6335
    @jae6335 19 дней назад +458

    The OG3 stuck with Kody through poverty. As soon as his finances changed, he kicked dirt in their faces.

    • @gimppy411
      @gimppy411 19 дней назад +59

      i know 😭 the crazy part is, without the OG3, Kody would have never had TLC, or Robyn

    • @gottabme
      @gottabme 19 дней назад

      That is how narcissistic ppl live their lives. They find vulnerable ppl, use them for everything they have to offer, then move on when their 'supply' is used up. They have no conscience, imo.

    • @joerudnik9290
      @joerudnik9290 19 дней назад +22

      No kidding, or the ‘18 kids’!!😂

    • @gottabme
      @gottabme 19 дней назад

      @@jae6335 Wow, I made a comment about narcissistic ppl, and it was deleted... 👀

    • @jackiemartling5321
      @jackiemartling5321 18 дней назад

      @@joerudnik9290 - You mean "18 WIC Payments".
      You just know that mofo would always grab the biggest piece of chicken, too.

  • @kiernan415
    @kiernan415 19 дней назад +530

    If I had to pick a favorite among the Brown offspring, it would be Maddie. She has the best head on her shoulders and is doing the hard work to recover from the abuses they all suffered in order to not pass on generational trauma. So proud of her!! 💜

    • @kenja6569
      @kenja6569 19 дней назад +75

      Same with Gabriel!! ❤

    • @amandaboyens
      @amandaboyens 19 дней назад

      ​@@kenja6569I LOVE Gabe ❤️

    • @cathym.4166
      @cathym.4166 19 дней назад +59

      And Aspyn

    • @HorseLady1109
      @HorseLady1109 19 дней назад +7

      Me too!

    • @kiernan415
      @kiernan415 19 дней назад +40

      @@kenja6569 Absolutely on Gabe, but being the oldest girl, I think Maddie had some extra challenges so since this episode centers on her, wanted to give her extra props for all shes does.

  • @juvsbeck1426
    @juvsbeck1426 19 дней назад +218

    I'm gonna say Maddie, Logan, and Aspen seem to have it together and very humble and mature.

    • @marymasiakowski5042
      @marymasiakowski5042 19 дней назад +17

      Gabriel too

    • @nancyanne1402
      @nancyanne1402 19 дней назад +21

      Hunter. He LOVES his mom and his siblings (all of the 13 at least). He has a degree, a good job, a girlfriend. And stays away from the drama of the family (like pretty much all of the adults of the 13).

    • @juvsbeck1426
      @juvsbeck1426 19 дней назад +10

      @@nancyanne1402 Yes I do agree. As well as Gabriel too.

    • @sbielec30
      @sbielec30 19 дней назад +5

      Their mom(s) did a wonderful job raising them to be good individuals. 😊

    • @GrannyDi276
      @GrannyDi276 19 дней назад +5

      Logan & Aspen & Madison were patentified....Logan & Aspen on the show & Aspen before that when her Mom left Kody for several years....they matured quickly with that responsibility & 2 of them, Aspen & Logan seem to not want children of their own....very sad

  • @susansimon5105
    @susansimon5105 19 дней назад +211

    It’s only a matter of time before Kody is bankrupt and loses everything!

  • @cdb88
    @cdb88 19 дней назад +290

    The fact that you can be in debt $250,000 for a medical procedure in the United States is absolutely appalling.

    • @kristinahuckabee9737
      @kristinahuckabee9737 19 дней назад +32

      Preach it! I totally agree.

    • @GIgone3
      @GIgone3 19 дней назад +51

      Healthcare and Medicare in this country is a mess

    • @humblehillhorses1844
      @humblehillhorses1844 19 дней назад +38

      An absolute mess, my healthcare premium costs more than my damn mortgage. How is that even reasonable? It’s not even a low deductible plan either!

    • @karynsuepohlmeier2109
      @karynsuepohlmeier2109 19 дней назад +34

      All my medical bills go to collection agencies. You can't get blood out of a turnip.
      Btw, I have Medicare and secondary insurance but I still have medical bills.

    • @annasmandych3876
      @annasmandych3876 19 дней назад +28

      I can't even wrap my head around having to pay out of pocket for Healthcare, it's such a foreign concept. This would be terrifying, especially with so many children!

  • @candeejordan5250
    @candeejordan5250 19 дней назад +112

    😂 I know kody is pissed that she is being honest.

    • @pippiecarr9378
      @pippiecarr9378 18 дней назад

      Kody wouldn't know what Maddie is saying, there is no way he is listening to her.

  • @sandraslate7043
    @sandraslate7043 19 дней назад +118

    I love Maddie! ♥︎ She has a damn good head on her shoulders. She and Caleb are perfect for each other.

  • @leslielane8679
    @leslielane8679 19 дней назад +107

    You go Maddie!!!
    I stopped talking to my abusive family when I was 40. Should have done it a lot sooner. A lot of people try to guilt trip me by saying “family is forever” and so on. I have peace in my life for the first time.

    • @thelmaharper8545
      @thelmaharper8545 19 дней назад +19

      Sometimes we need to get rid of the toxic people in our lives, no matter who they are.

    • @LoloOlly
      @LoloOlly 19 дней назад

      You dMn straight!!!​@@thelmaharper8545

    • @-SleepyNurse-
      @-SleepyNurse- 19 дней назад +6

      I only have a brother. Both parents died young. He tells me daily how stupid and worthless I am because I am now disabled. I worked and have been on my own all my life, to the point of skipping marriage and having kids. Now I am alone, unable to work, deal with medication resistant bipolar depression and panic attacks and I can’t put into words how lonely I am and how much his name calling and insults hurt to my core. Even though I had a better job than he ever has, I am stupid with no common sense and worthless now that I can’t work, in his eyes. And he is all I have and I am kind to him. I am no longer social and honestly have no idea why I am still here. I can’t bring myself to ban him from my life. It’s sad. I admire ppl who can do that.

    • @janeecejjf2001
      @janeecejjf2001 19 дней назад +2

      @@-SleepyNurse-
      I’m so sorry. I can’t allow toxic people in my life. Some of my family can be toxic. I don’t turn my back on them, but I do shut it down when they start bringing negativity into my life and I do take long breaks.
      I have a brother who turned his back on the whole family except me. I’ve seen his attitude towards the rest of the family and he too can be a toxic person but not towards me.
      I feel bad for the others wanting a relationship with him that he doesn’t want. He too has an I’m better than everyone attitude but for some reason, not towards me. I can never turn my back on my family completely but I can and will shut down the 💩 shows and take very long breaks.

    • @pamela9270
      @pamela9270 19 дней назад +3

      ​@-SleepyNurse- I'm so sorry you're in this situation. I have a toxic brother as well who I had to cut ties with. I'm also disabled and feel the same. I do have a daughter, though, but she lives about 1½ hrs from me. It's a tough life when you're sick and can't have a social life. I understand. I felt compelled to tell you that you are not alone. You are a good person. Don't let your abusive brother knock you down. Take care, and I'm sending you a hug tonight. 🫂 ❤

  • @Marwazellie
    @Marwazellie 19 дней назад +129

    Kody was a horrible father!! I don’t think the kids and wives even realize how bad of a father he was!!! They never had a good father

    • @Katiekatbc
      @Katiekatbc 19 дней назад +9

      And continues to be. A horrible father. It takes a real man to be a good father. Kody however is the ipitomy of a 4 letter word.

  • @PamelaSpade
    @PamelaSpade 19 дней назад +78

    I remember a clip where Maddie wanted to go with her high school friends to a church youth group at a mainline Protestant church (Presbyterian, I think), and she had to argue with Robyn about it and ultimately was not allowed to go. She said, “I hate our church”; even then she knew that she had no freedom in her family or in the AUB.

    • @blessedwatkins2587
      @blessedwatkins2587 19 дней назад +4

      What did Robyn have to do with it. She's not her mother

    • @jenniferkovalick2959
      @jenniferkovalick2959 19 дней назад +1

      That's the first thing I thought of too, when Maddie was talking about she couldn't even express her opinions!

  • @redcargirl
    @redcargirl 19 дней назад +126

    Government assistance is a good thing for moms who need it for their kids, but it is meant to be a bridge not a lifestyle.

    • @kimgraham9671
      @kimgraham9671 19 дней назад +14

      My daughter had to go for assistance for single moms. She went to college to be a personal support worker. Within a year she graduated and got a full-time job and was off assistance . She makes really good money and a pension for retirement. That is exactly how it's done , I'm so proud of her

    • @ArkansasSquaw
      @ArkansasSquaw 19 дней назад +5

      AMEN!!

    • @mariel.8809
      @mariel.8809 19 дней назад +6

      Healthcare is a right. Why do we send billions overseas in a money laundering operation and our citizens don’t have affordable or free healthcare.

    • @ArkansasSquaw
      @ArkansasSquaw 18 дней назад +1

      @mariel.8809 Healthcare is not a *right*... nothing is a "right!" Someone (taxpayers) is always footing the bill and I promise you it's not the government! It's US, everyday hardworking Americans!!

    • @a.abarker8387
      @a.abarker8387 16 дней назад

      ​@@ArkansasSquaw nothing is a right? wasnt this country founded on the concept of people having unalienable rights? if the supposed "greatest country in the world" cant take care of its own citizens, then how great can we really be? and what does it say about the culture of this country that the thought of people contributing to their community is so blasphemous. there are people who make more money then i will ever see but pay a significantly smaller percent in taxes than i do because this country is ran by politicians, on both sides of the aisle, who have sold themselves to these corporations. i dont see the problem in paying taxes if that means people will die less. i see a problem in the fact that americans are forced to rely on loansharks for healthcare coverage. too many people in this country have to make the choice between debt and death.

  • @elizabethiii6132
    @elizabethiii6132 19 дней назад +62

    I’ve always been amazed at how great the OG kids turned out in spite of childish parents! Robyn’s kids not so fortunate sadly.

    • @MCPaul-ct9fq
      @MCPaul-ct9fq 19 дней назад +4

      They all probably carry the pain of the narracist kody but I agree. Probably him staying away helped. They could see how unfair it all was

  • @munchie2u
    @munchie2u 19 дней назад +35

    I love hearing Maddie call it a cult!💗

  • @kristinahuckabee9737
    @kristinahuckabee9737 19 дней назад +148

    I have to admire Maddie, Logan, and Garrison for breaking the cycle and not continuing the cycle of being poor money managers.

    • @cosmiccountrygirl179
      @cosmiccountrygirl179 19 дней назад +20

      Garrison was very troubled he did not break the cycle - he ended his life - a tragedy caused by his father turning his back on him - did kody ever tell him he was proud of having such a wonderful son - I doubt it.

    • @kristinahuckabee9737
      @kristinahuckabee9737 19 дней назад +31

      @cosmiccountrygirl179 I was referring to the cycle of being bad money managers. He bought a nice car, a house, and was paying his bills. He worked hard and saved money for his down payment. He did have devastating emotional problems that led him to his final act. But financially, he broke the cycle.

    • @sally.thatgurl
      @sally.thatgurl 19 дней назад +13

      You notice all the children listed are those of Janelle's? Her children definitely are much more grounded and responsible. I would say Janelle is a big part of why that is. We all know she is more grounded herself and finances are extremely important to her. I think alot comes down to which mother you have genetically even though Christine did most of the raising of the children when they were young.. if you look at her children they are much more like her and same goes with Meri's child they were exactly like her last time I saw them. Janelle and her children are by far my favourites!

    • @kelisa3772
      @kelisa3772 19 дней назад +8

      It’s not surprising, because you know they must’ve absorbed Janelle’s maddening frustration with the money management.

    • @ginamorales7292
      @ginamorales7292 18 дней назад +4

      @@sally.thatgurlI absolutely agree!

  • @Bethlam
    @Bethlam 19 дней назад +50

    I’m so glad Maddie cut Kody out of her children’s lives. He just wants to pop in and out of their lives when he felt like it. You don’t need toxic people like that around your children.

    • @sandralybrand9425
      @sandralybrand9425 17 дней назад +1

      The only time he came around the grandkids was to film! Just like leaving Robins house to film at the other wives and kids house! It's been a pattern for years until they finally left him!

  • @michellerussell-rm9im
    @michellerussell-rm9im 19 дней назад +163

    Looking at Maddie it's like looking at Janelle. Just her clone. Maddie has a wisdom from her experience in life. I am happy she was blessed to find Caleb.

    • @marilynrebouche719
      @marilynrebouche719 19 дней назад +28

      Maddie has a much "clearer head" than Janelle

    • @mwongel
      @mwongel 19 дней назад +13

      Cmon...Janelle is not that smart. 1. She marrried her ex- husband's sister's husband (enough said but I will go on). 2. Gave all her money to Kody & Robyn to the point where she has no money of her own to build a house for her and her kids 3. Took Savannah to camp at cayote pass on her almost last yr of high school. 4. Has given Kody a pass most of her life.

    • @michellerussell-rm9im
      @michellerussell-rm9im 19 дней назад +10

      @@mwongel I am talking about Maddie's physical appearance that's all when it comes to her being Janelle's clone. But with age you can attain clarity. In some cases it comes with experiences. You also learn through failures. I have met some folks who are "Book smart" but when it comes to common sense and wisdom they completely lack both. You need a sense of self-, awareness be humble to admit it.

    • @BlackNoiseCat
      @BlackNoiseCat 19 дней назад +13

      @@mwongelthat doesn’t mean Janelle is not smart. She was manipulated & clearly gaslit the whole time. Being under control of an abusive person doesn’t necessarily make you dumb.

    • @lillithsternin7428
      @lillithsternin7428 19 дней назад +3

      ​@BlackNoiseCat Okay..but doesn't it say alot that she married her sister in-laws husband??

  • @targaghjj
    @targaghjj 19 дней назад +31

    I wish these women would wake up and listen to their kids. The moms keep saying it worked and it only went wrong when Kody fell for Robyn and gave up. It NEVER 'worked', it was horrible and abusive.

  • @tamifarr9021
    @tamifarr9021 19 дней назад +40

    Maddie is a total rockstar. I'm sure having Caleb has been a good balance for anything that may come up. I've always liked him. They make a great team.

  • @woohyawn2595
    @woohyawn2595 19 дней назад +175

    I’m sorry, my respect for the adults in this family is now non-existent. Welfare fraud? Bankruptcies? No food? No health insurance for the children? Come on.

  • @tomcat9602
    @tomcat9602 19 дней назад +19

    I like that she called out Kody's "poor mans mindset" and recognized importance of thinking abt tomorrow.
    The greatest difference between an ignorant and educated mindset, is ability to postpone reward and plan for the future. Work today. Rest tomorrow.
    Instant gratification is something children, but also adults, struggle to give up. Myopic.
    Kody's mindset will not change.
    How will his future look like?
    Little money and not respected?

  • @Ccamero123
    @Ccamero123 19 дней назад +49

    I’m sorry a good man doesn’t father children he cannot feed and care for! Kody is a leech and a grifter.

    • @pattykochenower4222
      @pattykochenower4222 19 дней назад +5

      Agreed and just continued to have more children! 🙄

  • @JenniferPerryMyScraproom
    @JenniferPerryMyScraproom 19 дней назад +16

    When I was a kid we moved multiple times a year - every year. Changed schools and had trouble paying bills and keeping food in the house. I was determined that when I grew up that was not happening to my kids. We have owned our home for 28 years. Our daughter only lived in 2 houses her entire time growing up, in the same town. She finished high school with the same kids she started kindergarten with. Our bills are paid and we have food in our pantry. Thankfully my husband understood my NEED to grow roots and a strong family. Kids know and remember way more than they are given credit for.

    • @twovirginiacats3753
      @twovirginiacats3753 19 дней назад +3

      Same here. My parents owned their home from the mid 50's until they passed. I didn't move around when my kids were growing up either. I thought it was important to stay put for their sake. I also kept plenty of food in the house too! Kids eat a lot!

    • @donnamays24
      @donnamays24 19 дней назад +1

  • @DianaRomanowicz-q3q
    @DianaRomanowicz-q3q 19 дней назад +117

    Kody will always be in financial trouble

    • @kiernan415
      @kiernan415 19 дней назад +16

      That's true, but in the past, he was only able to recover because he had three wives propping him up and the income from the show. The wives are gone and the show can't go on much longer so he's about to be in a world of hurt where finances are concerned imho.

    • @Jat-j7z
      @Jat-j7z 19 дней назад +12

      They rent everything..multiple homes cars ,u hauls,they must have blown millions just on renting everything.

    • @Meme-nk7fr
      @Meme-nk7fr 18 дней назад +1

      As long asvhe has the show he will continue to be wealthy

  • @heather1387
    @heather1387 19 дней назад +48

    The difference between the mothers and children is that the mothers especially Christine were kept from the real world. The children were exposed to the outside world going to public schools and University. Being exposed to the world gives you more options because you become aware there are other options.

  • @katherinerogers5681
    @katherinerogers5681 19 дней назад +60

    Robyn surprised that her personality test said she dramatic... girlfriend cries every episode ... na girl you fine!😊

    • @alison-pisces
      @alison-pisces 19 дней назад +2

      @@katherinerogers5681 people can be sensitive and emotional without being dramatic.

  • @NFfortruthandjustice
    @NFfortruthandjustice 19 дней назад +7

    Maddie is the most level headed, down to earth and intelligent young lady. Love that she did this real interview. 💜

  • @ReneeSimpson-k5w
    @ReneeSimpson-k5w 19 дней назад +25

    MADDIE THIS GIRL GOT COMMON SENSE

  • @karigarman4939
    @karigarman4939 19 дней назад +25

    Kody never wanted to really work. 40 hours a week is beneath him.

  • @tmoore1144
    @tmoore1144 19 дней назад +14

    I watched Maddie's podcast earlier today. Noticed she kept saying that the family had 15 kids. Not 13. Not 18. 15. That would be the OG 13 plus the youngest 2 with Robin. Not Robin's oldest 3 that were adopted by Kody. But I really liked the way Maddie discusses her family. Not hiding it and refusing to discuss it. Not playing it up for attention. It just is, like any other large family, but with multiple moms.

  • @angelwingstn3392
    @angelwingstn3392 19 дней назад +8

    They were in financial trouble yet kept on having kids they couldnt feed. Ridiculousness.

  • @redcargirl
    @redcargirl 19 дней назад +32

    Love listening to Maddie. I would be ok to see the Sisterwives series end.

  • @vernakniseley1136
    @vernakniseley1136 19 дней назад +13

    I feel that the reason Logan and Aspyn don't have any children now is because they had to help take care of their siblings alot when they were younger.

    • @Cherrypie626
      @Cherrypie626 18 дней назад +1

      They were parentified. This is a very common theme on older siblings who had to raise their younger siblings growing up.

  • @Hannah-Lynne-
    @Hannah-Lynne- 19 дней назад +34

    I don’t know why everyone is so mad that christines kids were on medicaid. Kody was clearly in control of the money incoming from the show and he never lived in the home full time or privided for any of his kids. She was practically a single mom at the mercy of kody paying her mortgage. If he got mad an decided not to pay it she would have provavly ended up homeless because she didn’t have control of the money. She had no income, i think that qualifies her children for health insurance assistance. Would you rather her kids not had insurance?

    • @MissAmy2913
      @MissAmy2913 19 дней назад +6

      If she didn’t have them on Medicaid people would be mad about that. She is damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. She did what anyone else would have done and what millions do every day when Dad is a deadbeat.

  • @melissatemme1260
    @melissatemme1260 19 дней назад +45

    How the hell do you save money when you've got 50 million kids?

    • @paulettebraun814
      @paulettebraun814 19 дней назад

      Because you use them to generate income, and keep it to yourself, He is a absolute Disgrace. I dont think much of him. Basically, he sells himself, lying to get what he wants with no regard for all the Ladies he has used and abused. And doesn't even care enough about the kids to bother to provide the basics too. And is still trying to continue the facade to get ahold of their money

    • @Amy-466
      @Amy-466 19 дней назад +6

      You don't buy fancy cars, jewelry, and crappy expensive art...?

  • @Jassyangelina
    @Jassyangelina 19 дней назад +56

    All the ladies were guilty of this and filing bankruptcy.

    • @Jat-j7z
      @Jat-j7z 19 дней назад +8

      They are all at fault none of the plyggs are smart.

    • @rochellegilman-mcginty4975
      @rochellegilman-mcginty4975 19 дней назад +14

      I could hardly fault the mothers for receiving these benefits because they actually need/ed them. In these patriarchal “situations” we should 💯💯💯 blame the fellas for hoarding wives & children that they cannot afford basic care & resources for.

    • @americangirl8970
      @americangirl8970 19 дней назад

      @@rochellegilman-mcginty4975 They committed bankruptcy fraud though (in my opinion) which is a federal crime.

    • @mariel.8809
      @mariel.8809 19 дней назад

      Why do we send billions overseas in money laundering operations and our citizens don’t have the basic right of healthcare 😊

  • @patriciabrady72
    @patriciabrady72 19 дней назад +51

    Kodys money will go quicker than his hairline.

    • @Yolander-c7c
      @Yolander-c7c 19 дней назад +7

      He trying to keep up with Robin in he going to be broke in he should for what he did to his children

    • @HorseLady1109
      @HorseLady1109 19 дней назад +2

      😆😆

    • @karenmoss1605
      @karenmoss1605 19 дней назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @sally.thatgurl
      @sally.thatgurl 19 дней назад +4

      If only he held onto the little money he has like he holds onto the little hair he has..

    • @sue4448
      @sue4448 19 дней назад

      Not as long as everyone keeps watching and talking about him.
      Each and every one of us who watch and talk about sister wives are the ones who are enabling Kody to live in a 2 million dollar house. And he will stay there for as long as we make him relevant...
      It's as simple as that.

  • @carolfulton-kennedy2482
    @carolfulton-kennedy2482 19 дней назад +12

    Thank you for exposing this Katie!.
    All those parents have done wrong by the kids. Including Janelle and Christine…..not enough food, no health insurance. On benefits. Parentified.
    It is truly a diabolical way to live - dreadful 😡

  • @stellanorthrup748
    @stellanorthrup748 19 дней назад +44

    I was surprised when she said he had 15 kids in the last podcast. Not sure if that was a little poke, poke at Robyn.

    • @romaolberding7288
      @romaolberding7288 19 дней назад +5

      She was talking about a time before the show and before Robyn was in the picture when they were very poor

    • @stellanorthrup748
      @stellanorthrup748 19 дней назад +7

      There was only 13 kids then, 18 after all of Robyn’s.

  • @PatriotJewell
    @PatriotJewell 19 дней назад +22

    And buy a 2 million dollar home. The 1 million wasn’t good enough! 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ukmary1968
      @ukmary1968 17 дней назад

      But who buys a house that you need to haul water? I get living off the grid but that’s ridiculous

  • @bflogal18
    @bflogal18 19 дней назад +25

    My prediction- Kody Brown will be bankrupt again within 3 yrs, if not sooner. Robyn will leave him when the money dries up or the show gets cancelled, whichever comes first.
    And all that crap in his home will be on Facebook Marketplace for quick cash!

  • @marynafe7418
    @marynafe7418 19 дней назад +19

    Wow, these are some intelligent, informed young women!

  • @tamicarper2886
    @tamicarper2886 19 дней назад +15

    But Kody paid for Daytons surgeries none of the other children. Huh who's the favorite wife

  • @autumn7031
    @autumn7031 19 дней назад +32

    That's it right there! The kids being well adjusted is despite their upbringing. They found their way on their own once they could get out of there. This just solidifies how horrific these environments are on children and their critical development. This is so unfair. None of the kids ever asked for this mess nor have any of them chosen this atrocity of a "marriage" lifestyle.
    I will always find All of the adults irresponsible and immature. They involved their children in adult matters and they forced them to grow up in a cult. That's not good parenting. It's selfish as hell. Wish all the very best for all of the kids. They are great.

    • @MissAmy2913
      @MissAmy2913 19 дней назад +2

      Unfortunately, except for Janelle, they were raised in this environment and it’s all they knew. Janelle was mainstream LDS so she had one foot in this world. Indoctrination is a powerful things. This was simply what they knew.

    • @autumn7031
      @autumn7031 19 дней назад +1

      @@MissAmy2913 I get it, the adults for sure. But the kids are well adjusted for the most part because of their own individual parting from the family dynamic and soul searching. Im proud of them. Thing is, cult or not, as responsible parents, you Never Ever involve your child in your adult matters, and they did that A Lot. Not good.
      The adults Also, lived inside the cult as Katie has described, and all of their ridiculous rules and could have Also made the decision to remove themselves and adjust to the real world just like all of these great kids did. Katie has talked about A lot of the inside dynamic and culture as she's studied this cult a long time, and it's pretty bad.

  • @pdub707
    @pdub707 19 дней назад +15

    Janelle was in a bad situation. Yes, she did it by choice but just because she didn't grow up in it, doesn't mean there wasn't still some dishonesty about the lifestyle and programming her to be open to it. I 100% agree that Maddie made lemonade out of lemons but she learned that from someone. It wasn't Kody. Janelle is awesome in so many ways and she parented to the best of her ability in a difficult situation. Can't say the same for him.

  • @RozaneBeyMcCurdy
    @RozaneBeyMcCurdy 19 дней назад +57

    I cannot imagine being tied to Kody & Robyn in the Afterlife would ever be considered Heaven.
    Great choice Maddie made!

    • @Lady.Scorpio7
      @Lady.Scorpio7 19 дней назад +1

      That would be living in Hell, not Heaven 😂😂😂.

  • @crazyonebyfar
    @crazyonebyfar 19 дней назад +2

    I remember the first episode of Sister Wives. Logan was shown making breakfast for ALL the kids while Janelle and Kody were "getting ready to go to work". And they said something like "Logan is such a family guy, he loves to get the kids ready for school. He's the one that for sure will follow polygamy"........like they werent the ones putting all the pressure on a 16 y/o boy

  • @shawnnakaminski2104
    @shawnnakaminski2104 19 дней назад +15

    The $ Kody used to drop on that house was enough to buy a decent house in full. No mortgage on the house just taxes at the end of the year and then he could stockpile what he earns. So his “fear” of poverty doesn’t track.

  • @JoeMiles-t8m
    @JoeMiles-t8m 19 дней назад +28

    They still do the "unsafe" language to stop communication.

  • @sandysouthward3635
    @sandysouthward3635 19 дней назад +15

    Maddie, so has her head on straight!! She is an awesome young lady!!

  • @lynettebrinkman9552
    @lynettebrinkman9552 19 дней назад +48

    Years ago I watched an episode of sisterwives that was all about how the family planned on paying college expenses when their kids got to that age. I must’ve heard the word scholarship about a hundred times during that episode. They were all about getting free secondary education. Now they are all buying million dollar houses. For being supposedly religious this family always cared a bit too much about material wealth. It’s hypocritical.

    • @elainemarie3013
      @elainemarie3013 19 дней назад +11

      I too am disappointed at the gross level of materialism in this so- called religious family that also ignored the education of their many many children

    • @millenni-lifecrisis2324
      @millenni-lifecrisis2324 19 дней назад +4

      When you graduate high school your parent’s obligation to your education is complete. You work or go to college, you can live at home and I feed you at close to no cost to you as possible. I will contribute to your transportation and other expenses as I can(while in school) but you are doing the rest. You are required to have a part time job as close to driving as you can.
      This is how I am raising mine.
      One moved out, went to work, and married and has not been financially dependent on me since, outside the occasional voluntary help. Just had my first grand.
      Two graduated nursing school, saved enough to move out and is living in something much nicer than anywhere I’ve lived. He’s saved money since his first job at 16, is invested in retirement at 21, and has an emergency fund.
      Three is a sophomore in high school and plans to follow his brother’s(murse-male nurse)footsteps.

    • @sandralittle2138
      @sandralittle2138 19 дней назад

      ​@@millenni-lifecrisis2324 great job!

  • @threadyorknot4423
    @threadyorknot4423 19 дней назад +27

    Oof, even in Maddie talking about insurance you can tell she hasn't totally learned what normal is. Typically one parent has insurance for the kids through work. The ACA allowed families access to subsidized plans. It isn't typical to sometimes have insurance and sometimes not.

  • @PatriotJewell
    @PatriotJewell 19 дней назад +20

    Her mom was the main breadwinner!

  • @gemma6161
    @gemma6161 19 дней назад +9

    What messed up priorities. Several years into the show, and they’re not purchasing basic needs like medical care? But he had a fancy car! Geez.

  • @idonttiptoe1519
    @idonttiptoe1519 19 дней назад +19

    I've worked in Social Services front lines for over 13 years in Utah. If you are unwed but have children in common and you are in the home 51 percent of the time or more overnight you are considered a parent. If you are not in the home overnight 51% or more of the time than you are not. This also means that during Maddie's surgery for her appendix they likely defaulted to medicaid. Which isn't necessarily fraudulent considering what's his bucket wasn't in the home 51 percent or more of the time. His income and assets wouldn't factor in much.

  • @valeriecerilli7839
    @valeriecerilli7839 19 дней назад +23

    I hope and “pray” that Janelle doesn’t go back to living plural marriage 🤞

  • @valeriemcdonald440
    @valeriemcdonald440 19 дней назад +6

    She seems to be the most clear-headed one in the family.

  • @justanotherrando3477
    @justanotherrando3477 19 дней назад +13

    You can be poor and be a good parent. That said, it was fiscally irresponsible to keep having babies when you can't afford to feed the ones you have. It makes the kids look around and compare what everyone has. Such as Leon getting more because Meri's budget didn't have to go as far. That will mess up a kid.

  • @cathyconklin5135
    @cathyconklin5135 19 дней назад +13

    I never made promises I couldn’t keep to my children ever. I totally agree with Maddison!!!!

  • @lisanoell
    @lisanoell 19 дней назад +12

    Please discuss: Despite saying the kids were encouraged to make their own decisions, Maddie said she was labeled negatively for stating her own opinions and said something about being part of the rebel club, or something like that. We’ve seen how Robyn was much more openly unaccepting of giving the kids religious freedom than the rest of the Browns. I wonder if the rebel kids were also the “bullies” Kody has mentioned that Robyn is so offended by and scared of.

  • @monicalucero5776
    @monicalucero5776 19 дней назад +43

    Maddies is still taking care of Janelle
    Janelle is delusional and is acclimated to denial shame on her she owes Maddie an apology & Logan

    • @grasshopper1451
      @grasshopper1451 19 дней назад +10

      I agree. I just commented similarly! Hopefully Caleb will notice the toll it's taking on his wife and help her define healthy boundaries with Janelle.

    • @anon6116
      @anon6116 19 дней назад +6

      So it’s not me! I’m not the only person who sees this! Silly but I was really wondering why anyone else thinks she’s money smart.

    • @kimgraham9671
      @kimgraham9671 19 дней назад +3

      How is she taking care of Janelle? Janelle makes her wage from Tlc, she was the receiver of Garrisons insurance money and will. Garrisons house was sold today. So she receives that. Janelle is fine, probably why she isn't suing Kody because he will want to go for that money.

    • @vickiwittmeyer4438
      @vickiwittmeyer4438 19 дней назад

      ​@@kimgraham9671
      I AGREE!!!!!

    • @TheSledger01
      @TheSledger01 16 дней назад

      @@kimgraham9671 inheritances are not typically community property and Janelle and Cody were not legally married anyway.. he can’t come after the money garrison left to his mom. Garrison was an adult and he left his assets to who he wanted to.

  • @supervixen8556
    @supervixen8556 19 дней назад +38

    How can Christine afford her new house with David if she still owes so much money towards the medical bills for her kids? How are banks not seeing Kody’s fraudulent ways and still giving him money towards a mortgage?

    • @anon6116
      @anon6116 19 дней назад +5

      She’s making monthly payments. *(no, I don’t know, I’m guessing).

    • @madelineburns6405
      @madelineburns6405 19 дней назад +4

      Christine does pay for her kids. Probably a monthly payment. Kody has never given a dime for the kids

    • @blessedwatkins2587
      @blessedwatkins2587 19 дней назад +4

      David her husband can afford to take care of his wife and truly . He's not a dead beat like her X husband Kody. And she still pull her weight. She makes money. What kind of question is that.

  • @terrihartbarger
    @terrihartbarger 19 дней назад +12

    I just watched this episode of the Authentic Society. Maddie is a solid woman. Love watching that podcast.

  • @colleencarpenter1200
    @colleencarpenter1200 19 дней назад +19

    It's horrendous...all of it

  • @racheld7528
    @racheld7528 19 дней назад +11

    I really hope Kody has to pay the rest of Trulys medical bill. That’s just sad and such a heavy burden to carry. That how much we bought our house for in 2009.

  • @kimberlycoldren4237
    @kimberlycoldren4237 19 дней назад +15

    Hate to break the news to you but health insurance is so expensive for hourly labor, there is probably STILL a ton of families without health insurance. Marketplace plans provide some more options but don't necessarily guarantee coverage. The penalty for lack of coverage is so small compared to the actual insurance costs.

    • @humblehillhorses1844
      @humblehillhorses1844 19 дней назад +2

      You’re absolutely correct, and it’s only getting worse.

  • @briannaarentz2244
    @briannaarentz2244 19 дней назад +4

    WHHYYYY is TLC not providing them health insurance?!!!

  • @ReneeSimpson-k5w
    @ReneeSimpson-k5w 19 дней назад +13

    And sad part about it he didn't pay for his daughter surgery

    • @Lady.Scorpio7
      @Lady.Scorpio7 19 дней назад +2

      But he paid for Day- un's cosmetic surgery.

  • @jerriw58
    @jerriw58 19 дней назад +12

    I find it interesting that Maddie wanted her father to be the officiant for her wedding and also gave her first born his name for her middle name. When did she realize what he was really like?

    • @gottabme
      @gottabme 19 дней назад +10

      As far as the wedding goes, she may have been encouraged to make that decision. 1) Kody saw an opportunity to show off; 2) Kody wouldn't have to pay an officiant; 3) Kody could present himself as 'family priest' again.... it literally has Kody all over it, imo. 🤷‍♀️😂

    • @user-bm8xl9mj2z
      @user-bm8xl9mj2z 19 дней назад +1

      Evey K is her second child.

  • @virginiajoyner4990
    @virginiajoyner4990 19 дней назад +9

    Maddie is the most vocal of the kids but Mykelti. Maddie doesn't have a problem with putting out the truth of polygamy. Mykelti dances around the truth of polygamy. Maddie does make money with her podcast but Caleb has a job. Myjelti also makes money off her podcast but I don't know if Tony has a job. Ge reminds me a little bit of Koodie. My bets are on Maddie and Caleb naking the best financial decisions for their family.

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars 19 дней назад +16

    I’m with Maddie, I will choose hell over Plural Marriage every single day, every single time 😂❤

  • @teresagarcia5333
    @teresagarcia5333 19 дней назад +9

    Agree 💯about not making promises you can't or don't keep.

  • @melissatemme1260
    @melissatemme1260 19 дней назад +25

    Oh for God's sake who eats fresh baked bread everyday?

    • @sallyhemings2295
      @sallyhemings2295 19 дней назад +8

      The French do…but i imagine they’re not ONLY eating bread 🥖

    • @kenja6569
      @kenja6569 19 дней назад +1

      One can wish!

    • @romeannasmith2350
      @romeannasmith2350 19 дней назад +7

      I know right. Soometimes you do what you have to do. This may be an unpopular opinion, but this is a bit judgemental. Having affordable health care is an issue for 6 you have 1 kid, 15 kids, or no kids. Hence, the reason for the affordable care act. Is it easy for people to say things and look down on people until you are in the situation yourself.

    • @anniewatson90
      @anniewatson90 19 дней назад +4

      I did growing up with a single mom of 4.

    • @kenja6569
      @kenja6569 19 дней назад +3

      @anniewatson90 your mom truly loved you! Baking anything is an act of love 🥰.

  • @cynthiarobisky8141
    @cynthiarobisky8141 17 дней назад

    I read part of the scheme was Janelle and chirstine did not list a father on their children’s birth certificates so could go on public assistance. Kody never referred to any of the kids as “his”. He always refers to them as Janelle, Christine or Robyn’s kids

  • @debbieaylaian2402
    @debbieaylaian2402 19 дней назад +8

    Caleb has always given off good vibes. I am happy for the OG 3?adult kids for living the life they are thriving . Fingers crossed that Robys to develop their independent lives, too. 🌸

  • @laneneal3510
    @laneneal3510 19 дней назад +11

    I liked the three OG wives to finally maybe get their own show and have these discussions about how they would’ve probably done things differently. I totally understand the indoctrination and how they were brought up thinking that this is the way the only way, but I would like to hear a discussion on how they feel now and how they’re handing their handling theirrelationships with their adult children

    • @cosmiccountrygirl179
      @cosmiccountrygirl179 19 дней назад

      why - so we can watch them get rich - the wives all played into the fake sister wives show - time to end it all and live in the real world - Never forget the tragedy of Garrison - enough is enough - the kids all suffered the damages of polygamy as Kody and the wives portrayed their lives to be in harmony - until Robyn came along and the truth was exposed.

  • @sirenwilliams
    @sirenwilliams 15 дней назад +1

    Maddie seems to have a good mindset about her upbringing. I am happy she has been vocal about her experience.

  • @katrinavile
    @katrinavile 19 дней назад +13

    There is a poverty mindset, it can become a way of life…

  • @MichelleMyBelle33
    @MichelleMyBelle33 19 дней назад +8

    I’m also sure that Janelle raised them like that not just Cody and Robin. I know everybody hates Cody and Robin, but Cody and Robin weren’t the only bad parents.

  • @carriekay4827
    @carriekay4827 16 дней назад

    So stupid to think at Kody's age he is upsizing instead of paying off a home after selling the other home...it doesn't make sense.

  • @deee3950
    @deee3950 19 дней назад +7

    And … Janelle was not a good parent. We don’t get to have that conversation enough because of editing and all of the chaos happening. She worked temp jobs for no money and was away from her kids 10-12 hours a day. It’s wild. What was she doing all day?

  • @sociallystacey4935
    @sociallystacey4935 18 дней назад

    My mom used to have a saying, change your name and not the letter is a change for the worse and not the better. I guess Maddie brown brush is the proof that it isn't a change for the worse.

  • @janicerose1676
    @janicerose1676 19 дней назад +5

    I still can't believe meri gave kody 74,000 to help payoff the land. Wow...that's alot of money.
    Kody truly is a dead beat dad. As he would say....he just wanted his pencil wet. Sick.

  • @sharonwilson8208
    @sharonwilson8208 19 дней назад +3

    I subscribe to this channel with Maddie. I'm surprised at how much we have in common. I'm old enough to be her mother, but I've had to cut ties with family, and my daughter and I have created our own. There are a lot of topics they've covered, and I really appreciate how they discuss things. They don't name people, or turn it into a bashing party, nor pity party. Also, talking with her mother, sometimes having to let her know that something has hurt her. Yet, Mom (Janelle) is learning from she and Caleb. That makes Janelle a great Mom, changing at her age and the things the "cult" had taught her... Maddie's words. She truly loves Hunter as he shows up at every special day, or when someone needs a little help, like being ill, or with Ysabel after her surgery. She calls him "like where's Waldo, where's Hunter. I told my daughter about the channel and she quickly subscribed. There's a lot that could help her as well. 😊❤

  • @grasshopper1451
    @grasshopper1451 19 дней назад +10

    I noticed this season Maddie has falling back into old patterns with her mother. Maddie shouldn't have to figure out her mother's finances or coming to terms with everything else Janelle should be dealing with - without leaning on Maddie! She shouldn't have to pickup the piece's of Savannah's life and figure out Kody's rejection of her. Even Christine's daughter's run to North Carolina for some sense of normalcy.
    I was that daughter/sibling/friend/ etc.
    On the one hand it's exhausting on the other it fills an emotional hole left from never having a childhood.
    I think it's a terrible idea for Maddie and her husband to go into business together, buy land and build together.
    Christine and Janelle are both too needy. Christine found David and he's all about being her rescuer/ knight in shining armor. Janelle is still caught up into the parentification of Maddie and I dare say her husband.

    • @user-bm8xl9mj2z
      @user-bm8xl9mj2z 19 дней назад

      It’s literally for content - how to they create drama if there is nobody to bitch with

  • @RoyallyMessy
    @RoyallyMessy 19 дней назад +4

    Poverty mindset? He spends more than he makes. The end.

  • @andrewmeers84
    @andrewmeers84 19 дней назад +6

    You don’t have to have money to be happy and have a wonderful family life. Nothing we learn should surprise us about Kody and his finances. Everything is always about him, including the money. Kody has to have the best and the most, so it is of little surprise that the last woman standing is Robyn. Pay the women what you owe them and ride off into the sunset never to be heard of again. PS take Robyn with you!

  • @ukmary1968
    @ukmary1968 17 дней назад

    I was shocked when I heard it was 5 years. They just down played that BS

  • @ukmary1968
    @ukmary1968 17 дней назад

    Robyn knew. She was “sick” right after that test

  • @Myshane
    @Myshane 19 дней назад +5

    Congratulations Maddie and Caleb and your little ones on the news of your pregnancy. Hope you sail through it with peace and harmony. Look after your beautiful Mum. Good luck with your new adventure together.🌹.🇬🇧

  • @AP-qk5gk
    @AP-qk5gk 18 дней назад

    I was married to someone who was around more when the kids were small and gave unconventional love all the time. As the kids started having a voice his switch flipped and it became abusive and he was told to leave our home. So I get this weird little kid love he has for the kids that are full of love and their parents hung the moon to them asking questions and having their own mind and voice.

  • @GIgone3
    @GIgone3 19 дней назад +7

    Bravo Maddie, Bravo

  • @teresawells3336
    @teresawells3336 16 дней назад

    I bet you that when there was nothing in the cabinets to ear but refried beans and day old bread to feed the kids that Kody had enough money to sneak out and go out and eat even if it was just fast food! Kody has never gone hungry.

  • @baileybug776
    @baileybug776 19 дней назад +1

    I hope you and your husband and kids are doing well Maddie ❤

  • @woohyawn2595
    @woohyawn2595 19 дней назад +24

    Meri actually is the exception with her Lularoe MLM. She made a LOT of money because she got in early.

    • @DAnastasia_
      @DAnastasia_ 19 дней назад +1

      No she made a lot of money because of the show. She took advantage of the Instagram / Facebook followers aka fans promising them a get rich quick scheme where there wasn’t one because you had to be the 1% to make the money the top tier sellers make.

    • @madelineburns6405
      @madelineburns6405 19 дней назад +3

      @@DAnastasia_That makes Meri the smart one.

    • @user-bm8xl9mj2z
      @user-bm8xl9mj2z 19 дней назад

      @@madelineburns6405fluke of circumstances

  • @SandraTully-o4x
    @SandraTully-o4x 19 дней назад +4

    Robyn took the personality test but obviously didn't like the counselling session because she pulled a sickie the next day when the results were spoken about. Kody announced Robyn was sick and inferred it was to do with the pregnancy.

  • @glitterysparkxx3330
    @glitterysparkxx3330 19 дней назад +4

    I wish Maddie would comment on her frontal lobe and Robyn’s storyline with her girls and her experience of how she was treated for wanting a community

  • @marionsgift
    @marionsgift 18 дней назад

    With five adults in that family, four should have been working full time and one at home looking after the children yet, that didn't happen because Kody is a poor manager and a lazy man.
    No reason for these kids to starve! How can he hold his head up and be proud of his family.

  • @kaylalaroque3038
    @kaylalaroque3038 18 дней назад

    Her mama said copy paste and I love it

  • @trishhayes9903
    @trishhayes9903 19 дней назад +2

    A few of my thoughts:
    > I wonder if Robyn and Kody were so proud of themselves for “offering” to pay for Dayton’s eye mishap medical bills because that’s not something Kody ever gave much of a crap about before. Ya know, in addition to their other delusional manipulative ways.
    > So, Janelle ALSO had to take care of “her” children’s medical bills! Sick!
    > I wonder if a blessing-in-disguise of the moms venting to their children contributed to the children’s decisions to not live in plural marriages.
    > I wonder if Robyn has medical insurance for her kids, and if that was part of Kody “needing” to adopt the kids. 🤷🏼‍♀️