The fact that after Janelle separated from Kody & Garrison lost his life to suicide that he chose to buy an even bigger home vs buying Janelle & Meri out of Coyote Pass speaks volumes as to how narcissistic & selfish he is. It’s despicable. I despise Kody even more for this blatantly selfish move, but I can’t say I’m surprised by his actions.
I feel like He and Robin were trying to outdo Christine and David. He bought her a ring similar to Christine's ring and bought a house bigger than Christine's home.
How do they still have money anyway? I was hoping they'd end up in a cardboard box. I don't watch anymore, but will click on one of these videos once in a while if the thumbnail is intriguing.
I respectfully disagree. I watched the show to see what the heck a sister wife is. Kody walked his other marriages and kids away when he walked Robyn in the home. She became everything to him and that is so painful to the other three wives. It was sad. I liked Jenelle, Christine and Meri. Did not care for Kody. I thought Robyn was trouble. She is.
In the conversation with Meri at the MacMansion, Kody did suggest selling the entire property and then just splitting the money four ways but guess who immediately jumped in and said SHE didn't want to sell it? Yes, Robyn! She then pretended she believed Meri & Janelle would still build & live out there. I call BS. She didn't want to keep it for that reason she wanted to keep it because she is greed personified. We see you Robyn.
She runs things and then acts stupid. I had one of those in my family. I say had because my brother is a Kody and I’ve walked away from the fake and manipulative relationship they have to offer. Toxic and greedy egoistic people are the worse.
@@mariel.8809 Absolutely! So glad you walked away. No-one is buying Robyn's stupid act. Her worse nightmare would be if one of her ex sister wives really did build out there and we all know it. Well done for protecting yourself 👏
My ex was in the military and they are required to have a will. If he had a will or revocable living trust which the military recommends then it wouldn't have to go through probate. They also have a power of attorney assigned. If that was still the case. They also had to assign a beneficiary for his life insurance and you know he chose Janelle. So it wasn't as complicated for her and that is why Cody didn't go after anything because he couldn't. The military makes sure that stuff is in order.
But because he committed suicide I didn't think the will would hold up, insurance companies or life insurance won't pay for a suicide m. I could me wronh
@kathymaurizio1852 He would still have a will and would leave his estate to someone who is more than likely Janelle. His property and assets would have nothing to do with his suicide I wouldn't think.
To have the terms of a will enforced, it must go through probate. However, not all assets are subject to probate. That means you can inherit the asset(s) without judicial intervention. Proceeds from life insurance are an example that one can inherit without going through probate. Whether or not a life insurance policy pays out when a death is self inflicted depends on the policy.
Kody only cares about himself at the end of the day. People only matter to him as long as he is able to use them for his own gratification. It's an unfortunate thing that he has been able to negatively impact the lives of so many. He has done so much damage and simply does not care
I hope that Janelle only takes actions that ease her pain. She deserves that. I, also, hope that she doesn't give 1 single thought to how The Kodster feels about any decision she makes. He has not earned the right to be considered.
I too, have stopped watching SW out of respect for Garrison as well as disrespect for Baldylock's abusive & abhorrent behavior to everyone! RIP Garrison! 💔
My heart breaks for the Janelle and Christine families. They have suffered a great loss in losing Garrison. Also, with the horrible breakdown of the family in general. Sending prayers and love to them. 🙏 💛💚
@Nightbird1914....you are so polite, In medical terms Crappie is a 'rectal orifice'. I'd call him something different but don't want to be kicked off comments.
However, It’s so raw and frankly none of our business- he was hardly on the show, and this exposes his deeply troubled personal life that TLC and viewers should step away from. Let his mother and siblings grieve.
Kody is not on his son’s birth. Certificate. Garrison surely had his mother listed as his beneficiary. Kody will have no legal right to any of Garrett’s estate.
I am happy that Janelle has sold Garrison's property. She has had ti pay the mortgage every month. It has to be hard to say goodbye to the last thing of Garrison's. But she can now be happier with Maddie,Caleb and the grandkids. She can now look forward for her plans for the farm.
I adore Jenelle. I have always found her to be real and wonderful. I watched because of her and that is no lie. I am so sorry she is going through this. I wish I had better words for her. Something comforting/spiritual. There is nothing harder. I cannot even pretend I know how she feels. Jenelle, I am sorry for your loss.
He is incapable. He believes he’s been done wrong. He’s the victim here. You can’t fight that mind set. Lawyer up girls. Get it done and be rid of him.
He doesn’t care to be a good ex-partner! IMO he is trying to wear them out so they just give up. Then he’ll sell the property and keep all of the money.
@@joyannmace3141, me too. Christmas Day 1999 my beautiful 17 yr. old daughter fell asleep at the wheel at 3:00 in the afternoon. I was blessed to see life through the eyes of a child. Thankful God allowed me that wonderful opportunity. Love u Katie. 😇😇🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I’m happy Janelle is with Maddie and Caleb. At least they’re the supportive voice of reason while Kody clings to that last thread of control. I seriously despise that man! I can’t see a shred of decency in him
Janelle needs to look into selling her part of land to someone to have chicken houses or a pig farm. It would make Kodys land smelly and much less appealing.
Kody seems so cruel. He put those women through a lot throughout their life, why can't he just do the good and right thing just to make it up to them a little. What's wrong with him! All in my opinion.
I would think it was about life insurance When my mother in law passed the first thing her daughter was asking was about life insurance which she thought was in her name Thank god she changed it and put it in her sons name which he was the one that had to pay for everything and daughter never paid a dime
The eyes are the mirror of the soul I have warned about this man since the first time I saw him. Completely insensitive to other people's feelings and needs. Glad the sister wives realize that God never intended to bless polygamy! Thank you Jesus for real love! ✝💜♥
She deserves to be happy. I can’t imagine losing a child as her relationship ended with Kody. I think all the ladies deserve a true love, a real man who steps up to the plate. It’s unfortunate that the kids always seem to pay the price. Now it’s up to Kody to give the ladies their part of the money he owe’s them. So far he’s playing them as fools. He’s sucking up to Mari hoping she’ll forget her share of the money, but Janelle is making sure she’s aware that she has money coming. Janelle is no dummy and will see that doesn’t happen. Kody being the snake in the grass isn’t too pleased, but boo-hoo.
I think of Janelle really trying....like when she bought & put that trailer on Coyote pass, Robyns girls making rude comments about it, kody & Robyn living in a mansion. Janelle with her plans she had drawn up. Sometimes we all only see things a certain way, we try our best, we trust others... nvr realizing there are others in this world so selfish & ugly at heart.
Christine, Janelle and Meri should be free of Kody and Robyn and should have the choice to break ties with them and not have to even worry about Kody or Robyn ever again. They must move on and never look back and have to listen to his lies
I've handled out-of-state probate/estate settlement for a very emotionally challenging and painful loss. I was the only beneficiary and it was still a terrible business. So many details to manage, and each one brings grief back to the surface. The attorney only files things and communicates with the court for you; the financial forensics and reconciling is all on you. This is very good news for Janelle and her other kids in terms of healing. Closing probate can't come soon enough for anyone.
He looks so innocent and hurt. A little boy who couldn't understand why his daddy who was his hero abandoned him. Daddy who chose his new family time after time. A dad who wouldn't admit what he saw in their own 2 eyes. Alcohol and depression is like adding jet fuel to fire.
It doesn't matter how old you get, or how much you know in your mind you don't deserve it... it still hurts when your parents treat you like you don't matter ans is incapable of being the mature adult they are supposed ro be. It is an aching that never completely goes away. And no matter how crappy they treat you, you want their love. It sucks. But at least once you are an adult you can make the decision whether to let them be in your life and continue to hurt you!
Going through it right now. It’s impossible to allow a loved one to rest in peace until the case is closed. I can’t even imagine how difficult it is for her as a mother. God bless.
I wouldn’t put it past Kody AT ALL to have tried to get a piece of Garrison’s life insurance and/or proceeds from his home. This could go a long way in explaining his sudden animosity toward Janelle.
She can force it. It’s like partners. It’s like a fivorce. This will be Janelle’s divorce once and for all. Poor Meri…it’ll be her third divorce from Kody
Janelle has always been my favorite on the show. She seems so smart and kind. I don’t want to hear about kodys sadness or his wife for that matter. You do such a great job on this show.❤
I still get a pit in my stomach when I see pictures of Garrison. A wonderful young man but Kody couldn't see how well Garrison (& Gabriel ) were doing! Kody is a POS. 😠
No matter what Garrison said, he needed and deserved a father. He was so hurt and so sad. Bless his heart. I think having a home where someone unalived himself, especially a public family. It’s a shame.
I'm nearly 50 and I still need my dad. Kody didnt give a dam about his OWN OG KIDS. If robbem didn't birth them then he doesn't care. Janelle has said he hadn't been in touch with savannah yet he's on screen moaning about how he doesn't get invited to her graduation party. If he was to be invited I think all the kids would leave
I honestly have a feeling Grody is hoping for Janelle and Meri to just sign the Coyote Pass lots over to him so he doesn't have to do the honorable thing. He is the very definition of a sadist. He truly enjoys inflicting pain on the people in his vicinity and periphery.
Hi Katy, I have been thru the probate process when my father passed away in 2021, it took a year for everything to runs it's course, I am so happy Janelle can close the chapter on this part of her journey.
I think Kody is planning to stall until Janelle and Meri are so frustrated that they sign a quit claim deed for pennies on the dollar, just to end the connection. Kody is a tool 🔧
A friend of mine commited suicide a week ago. He was responsible for helping my husband get his start in his career over a decade ago and we owe a lot of where we were able to be now to him. We'd not seen him a lot since we recently moved but we'd stayed in touch. But not even his best friend saw the signs. Due to the current distance it still feels far away, but it's difficult to process. I can't even imagine if it was a family member... more less a child.
I'm sorry that you have lost your friend. Sometimes people have say they are going to self eliminate don't and then the ones who are quiet sometimes do it.
If you understood narcissism, you would see that this is about one of the 4 prime aims of the narcissist-control. As long as Kody keeps The land, he controls Janelle and Meri. He is not capable of being a decent and caring person. He is driven by his narcissism which is his survival mechanism.
I feel like he’s been erased too. It’s very sad. I think viewers would like to see him with his family he was so close to before he was gone. I just hope they do right by this wonderful young man struggles and all. It is a time to help others in this cult by showing how this happens and how much happiness he had with his siblings, Christine, and Janelle. Gabe has also been erased from scenes which is also sad. They were so close he should be shown.
It so so sad seeing Garrison's pics, what a tragic loss. I'm sure she received a life insurance policy, he was military, most of them carry a good policy. I hope Janelle can find happiness like Christine did. Kody is absentee everything. Shame on him and the turkey neck motivating him.
Kody IS mean and petty. He didn't get what he wanted (which was to keep on abusing these women, verbally and financially) and they LEFT. Now, to be able to take out his aggressions on them he has to verbally bash them, tell lies about them, and accuse them of doing exactly what HE is doing. They took away his 'whipping boy' and his fun in stealing from them, so he's going to hold them up on Coyote Pass till they get attorneys and kick him off his throne. When this happens, look out Robyn! He's coming for you and your kids. There's stuff WRONG with Kody. I think he had an abusive childhood, and now it's coming out in his other interactions.
Kody is keeping hold of coyote pass as his last bit of control over them. I think he is hoping they get fed up waiting and let him have it all. I can't stand this creep! 😡
@@patevans3709I bet he told Meri the 74k was her share to pay it off. I bet he lied to her about it. He is probably using it for collateral for his new house.
I don’t understand how they paid off Coyote Pass. I feel like we kept hearing they didn’t have the funds to pay it off and to pay the taxes. Of course, since then, Kody has also managed to buy a $2m house. It doesn’t make sense. What’s their income source?
It’s wild that Kody claims he wanted to sell but Robyn said no. Made me wonder, until he bought that house, if Robyn wanted to keep it for an asset while planning to leave Kody.
One of the hardest things I dealt with in being estranged from my abusive father was when he tried to reconcile just a few years before his passing. It was really difficult to have gone through all the "lovebombing" once again to be let down. When he passed I was not even given any mention knowing he had a will. I had already accepted his toxic behavior, and had gone through the whole process of being ignored once again. No matter what our age it still hurts because those of us with empathy feel it all. Letting it go, learning not to care takes times, but when you make peace with all there is such a release. Realizing that it has nothing to do with you, but for allowing it to continue, makes all the difference once you finally cut them off. I do hope they all find happiness once they realize life is so much more than trying to make one person behave better towards you. 😊
And Kody expects us to watch him and Robyn to tell the tale of the sacred love story of how they met and how he is really in love and every man wants Robyn, they can finally express their love freely,.....blah, blah, blah, gag
Wait a minute….. is his passing going to be DURING this Christmas Season?!? 😳 Oh I hope not. That would be VERY Hard for the Family to be seeing this during The Holidays. (And Selfishly- Me Too!!)
I had to go through probate as the executive of my grandmas estate. She lived in Arkansas , owned multiple homes, and had no debt nor home loans. Even still it took about a year and the lawyer cost me around $5k. She only had a will and no one was contesting it. It was so frustrating that it cost so much $$. My husband and I have been trying to get his parents to make a living trust so it doesn’t cost us anything and everything switches over immediately. (In California) Problem Is that they can’t agree on anything since they have kids from prior marriages 😩
Kody isn't on his birth certificate... so legally he could not demand any share of the estate unless he goes and gets a Paternity test. Even then, if Garrison's left everything to Janelle in his will, I don't think Kody could contest it.
In Janelle looking back on her life with Kody, I believe she knows she does not want: 1. To be his side piece. 2. To be his mistress. 3. To be the is concubine. 4. To be the soft place he lands without reciporcality.
If I were Meri or Janelle, I would be stubborn (just like Kody) and hold on to Coyote Pass. They both seem to be able to live without the money, so they should hold on to it. Let Kody decide when he has had enough!
If there is one thing, although it's hard to choose, that showed me how incredibly despicable and disrespectful Toadylocks is, it was when he didn't sit with Janelle, Garrison's mother, at the funeral. He sat there holding hands with Liebrows.
I quit watching this show, it’s a strange relationship this father has with his children, which is none. I can’t stand the phoniness Kody and Robyn have. I think she’s waiting for her opportunity to find a wealthy man and leave .
Why would any man who spends 1/3 of 25 or years with a women who births 6 of your babies say those things on nationwide and lots of other countries. So hes love with her now or never was how ? do you not? To love her for her ...love her for bringing and raising the kids the most precious gifts we are given. Just toss her and them off when they get minds of their own. He has to know how awful he sounds. He sounds cruel for fun. So immature and just a terrible person. He just had to sire 15 kids ? Just to discard them. I could never live with the shame. Guess he just wants stepford wife and kids like robots.
I don't know why Meri and Janelle don't just get an attorney, and sue Kody. Either sell the properties with their names on it, giving them their share or he has to come up with the cash ans buy them out. He can then do whatever he wants with the land. But they have a stake in the property. They've been helping to pay it off and paying the taxes. He shouldn't be the only one deciding how this is supposed to go
So I don't know if this is everywhere or the loan that we got,but we had to get a life insurance policy for the loan amount. They specifically said that it was to ensure that the loan would be paid off on death. I do understand that taking ones own life, insurance doesn't always pay out.
I'm interested to know if one could sell their portion of a partly owned piece of property or force a judge to allow such a sale to a third party to occur. Frankly, if this is possible in Arizona, Janelle and Mari are only holding themselves back if they aren't willing to take the legal action necessary to completely part ways from "Kody Pass"
B/c of Kody's greed I think he is trying to wait them out hoping they loose interest in wanting anything to do with Coyote Pass and then they will walk away from it.
Garrisons death doesn’t seem to make any impact on Kody at all. Kody is a disgusting pos. TLC is the problem as well. They just want to profit off this tragedy. Contract or no contract I would have left that show if I were Janelle
Robyn needs to get help for her to daughters. Notice that neither one ever smiles? They both always look and sound so down and depressed ... What a sad life they must live with such a controlling sick mother, and a fool like Kody!
Probate can take a long time. Depends on the courts and the attorneys And I’m so sorry this family had to go through that after such a tragic loss. He was so young
I watched the documentary 9/11: The Falling Man. It is a hard watch. But I remembered being confused why the family was so insistent that he didn't jump. In my head I am thinking that if he jumped it was because of the flames and really saw no alternative where it was any better than jumping. So to me it wasn't committing suicide even if he did jump. But the family had such a horror of the idea that he jumped. It really confused me as to why. That they believed that even in the circumstances he faced, if he jumped it was suicide and that was against their beliefs. It was just all around sad.
They're probably holding on to Coyote Pass for a storyline that will still connect them all. Otherwise, there would be no reason for any of them to talk to or about Kody, except for Christine. They should cancel this show, but they won't. All of the women should stop filming but they won't - the money is too good.
I have ZERO real estate law knowledge. So this may be a really stupid question. Could Janelle just sell her stake to a third party buyer? Then Kody would have to deal with them? Probably not legal. But man, I would love to see that. Then Janelle could just walk away. Damn, I hate Kody.
Oh what a FABULOUS idea!!! As to if it is possible . . . It depends. It depends on what the deed reads and how they purchased the property. So maybe Yes and maybe No.
I work in probate. In my state, the siblings inherit everything, subject to the parent’s usufruct (use/disposal). If Kody isn’t on Gabe’s birth certificate and never claimed him, much like what Christine is going through to prove Kody is Truly’s father and enforce child support, Kody will not have any legally rights to claim or use or any assets without fighting Janelle. She is likely the administrator/executor, or one of the siblings who are close by. I hope she does get use of everything. Hopefully Gabe didn’t have a lot more debt than the mortgage and she gets a little bit of something
He was on all of Jenelle kids birth certificates. Christeen kids was the only ones Jody didn't claim. They were afraid the law would come after them because they lied to get social services.
I don't think his death should be "covered" on the show. I think that whatever his family decides, is what they should include. Everybody already knows that he has passed and how, there's no need to rehash it on the show and rip open the healing wounds. If it is addressed, it should be as a tribute to him at the end of one of the episodes showing his life and accomplishments in a video.
The fact that after Janelle separated from Kody & Garrison lost his life to suicide that he chose to buy an even bigger home vs buying Janelle & Meri out of Coyote Pass speaks volumes as to how narcissistic & selfish he is. It’s despicable. I despise Kody even more for this blatantly selfish move, but I can’t say I’m surprised by his actions.
I feel like He and Robin were trying to outdo Christine and David. He bought her a ring similar to Christine's ring and bought a house bigger than Christine's home.
All the while Christine is suing Kody for support. What an ahole
Kody blatantly said,”I don’t feel like doing her any favors”. He’s such a child.
How do they still have money anyway? I was hoping they'd end up in a cardboard box. I don't watch anymore, but will click on one of these videos once in a while if the thumbnail is intriguing.
@@Silverlily61Wow, Kody sure is a very childish materialist.
Kody's and Janelle's marriage was over when he rejected his children and grandchildren.
I agree 👍 💯 You so right
As if should be. Kody is a horrible person
There’s no way back from there.
I respectfully disagree. I watched the show to see what the heck a sister wife is.
Kody walked his other marriages and kids away when he walked Robyn in the home.
She became everything to him and that is so painful to the other three wives. It was sad.
I liked Jenelle, Christine and Meri. Did not care for Kody. I thought Robyn was trouble. She is.
In the conversation with Meri at the MacMansion, Kody did suggest selling the entire property and then just splitting the money four ways but guess who immediately jumped in and said SHE didn't want to sell it? Yes, Robyn! She then pretended she believed Meri & Janelle would still build & live out there. I call BS. She didn't want to keep it for that reason she wanted to keep it because she is greed personified. We see you Robyn.
She runs things and then acts stupid. I had one of those in my family. I say had because my brother is a Kody and I’ve walked away from the fake and manipulative relationship they have to offer. Toxic and greedy egoistic people are the worse.
She sure did!! She’s such a weirdo!
Kody has probably has Coyote Pass tied up with their new house and Janelle and Meri may never get their part or the money they paid into it.
@@mariel.8809 Absolutely! So glad you walked away. No-one is buying Robyn's stupid act. Her worse nightmare would be if one of her ex sister wives really did build out there and we all know it. Well done for protecting yourself 👏
@@noreengardner1075 ikr? 😆
My ex was in the military and they are required to have a will. If he had a will or revocable living trust which the military recommends then it wouldn't have to go through probate. They also have a power of attorney assigned. If that was still the case. They also had to assign a beneficiary for his life insurance and you know he chose Janelle. So it wasn't as complicated for her and that is why Cody didn't go after anything because he couldn't. The military makes sure that stuff is in order.
But because he committed suicide I didn't think the will would hold up, insurance companies or life insurance won't pay for a suicide m. I could me wronh
@kathymaurizio1852 He would still have a will and would leave his estate to someone who is more than likely Janelle. His property and assets would have nothing to do with his suicide I wouldn't think.
To have the terms of a will enforced, it must go through probate. However, not all assets are subject to probate. That means you can inherit the asset(s) without judicial intervention. Proceeds from life insurance are an example that one can inherit without going through probate. Whether or not a life insurance policy pays out when a death is self inflicted depends on the policy.
@@kathymaurizio1852 they tried to stop paying for suicide but it was overthrown. So it will pay.
@@JaneKaplun-js4lp if you have a revocable trust then you can bypass probate.
Kody only cares about himself at the end of the day. People only matter to him as long as he is able to use them for his own gratification. It's an unfortunate thing that he has been able to negatively impact the lives of so many. He has done so much damage and simply does not care
That’s exactly what happened. Well said!
I hope that Janelle only takes actions that ease her pain. She deserves that. I, also, hope that she doesn't give 1 single thought to how The Kodster feels about any decision she makes. He has not earned the right to be considered.
Janelle don't want you kody she has said it loud and clear 😂😂😂
Thank you for talking about Garrison Katie.I no longer watch the show itself to respect his memory and feel it should end now.
Yes…I’m glad someone is talking about him.
I too, have stopped watching SW out of respect for Garrison as well as disrespect for Baldylock's abusive & abhorrent behavior to everyone! RIP Garrison! 💔
My heart breaks for the Janelle and Christine families. They have suffered a great loss in losing Garrison. Also, with the horrible breakdown of the family in general. Sending prayers and love to them. 🙏
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Rest In peace Garrison...I wish you were able to still be on earth with your family who loved you so much.
Kody is a jerk. Plain and simple.
Fact!!
@Nightbird1914....you are so polite, In medical terms Crappie is a 'rectal orifice'. I'd call him something different but don't want to be kicked off comments.
@@jeanninerobinson522
I thought crappie was a fish....
As heartbreaking for Janelle to sell Garrisons house. I'm glad she can move from Flagstaff to North Carolina and start a new life.
Marie is still an idiot😂😂but she’s not stupid😂
I hope this show honors Garrison, a young man we have seen grow up on this show in a proper, dignified way.
However, It’s so raw and frankly none of our business- he was hardly on the show, and this exposes his deeply troubled personal life that TLC and viewers should step away from. Let his mother and siblings grieve.
I don't think TLC wants to because in many ways they are part of the problems with all the shows break ups. They love the fights
Janelle raised Garrison mostly alone with the rest of her children. She and Christine raised GOOD young adults.
I hope hope hope! not a single dime of Garrison's insurance and/or estate went into Kody's new home.
Kody is not on his son’s birth. Certificate. Garrison surely had his mother listed as his beneficiary. Kody will have no legal right to any of Garrett’s estate.
@@deb9201I thought I saw Jenelle say he WAS on all of her children s birthday certificates
@kathysteele3071 That's correct. The Kodster was not on the birth certificates for Christine's kids only. He was on all the other kids certificates.
I am happy that Janelle has sold Garrison's property. She has had ti pay the mortgage every month. It has to be hard to say goodbye to the last thing of Garrison's. But she can now be happier with Maddie,Caleb and the grandkids. She can now look forward for her plans for the farm.
Are mortgages not insured in case of death
So sad that Garrison couldn't hold on-he could have moved away to be with his Mum and sisters
I adore Jenelle.
I have always found her to be real and wonderful. I watched because of her and that is no lie.
I am so sorry she is going through this. I wish I had better words for her. Something comforting/spiritual.
There is nothing harder. I cannot even pretend I know how she feels. Jenelle, I am sorry for your loss.
Does Kody have even one ounce of empathy? I agree with you 💯 that he should take some stress away from Janelle.
He has no remorse. He's a narcissist.
He is incapable. He believes he’s been done wrong. He’s the victim here. You can’t fight that mind set. Lawyer up girls. Get it done and be rid of him.
Nothing feels better than when that final piece of connection is gone and you can move on and leave the past behind.
I felt that way when my ex sold the house even though i was off the mortgage and had remarried.
He doesn’t care to be a good ex-partner! IMO he is trying to wear them out so they just give up. Then he’ll sell the property and keep all of the money.
Very true!
He didn't care to be a good partner , ever . They catered to him . He didn't return the support to any of them , until Robin .
He can’t. Their names are on it. They have to sign.
I too lost my son. It hurts forever but I know we're he went and all see him again
God bless you
Sue him. Force him to sell .
Yes! This will be Janelle’s disillusionment .
What could she sue him for? I'd love that!
@@halloweenseason Janelle and Meri can sue him to force the sale of Coyote Pass.
Kody is abusive. He doesn’t care that Janelle is grieving. How many times do we have to call Kody a narcissist?
💜💜💜💜💜I love Janelle 💜💜💜💜
I feel bad she has lost a child
I lost a daughter back in 2006 I know Janelle's pain
@@joyannmace3141, me too. Christmas Day 1999 my beautiful 17 yr. old daughter fell asleep at the wheel at 3:00 in the afternoon. I was blessed to see life through the eyes of a child. Thankful God allowed me that wonderful opportunity. Love u Katie. 😇😇🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@joyannmace3141God bless you
I’m happy Janelle is with Maddie and Caleb. At least they’re the supportive voice of reason while Kody clings to that last thread of control. I seriously despise that man! I can’t see a shred of decency in him
His ego is gigantic…and so very toxic!
Janelle needs to look into selling her part of land to someone to have chicken houses or a pig farm. It would make Kodys land smelly and much less appealing.
can they sell their parcels independently? That is a GREAT idea!
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Kody seems so cruel. He put those women through a lot throughout their life, why can't he just do the good and right thing just to make it up to them a little. What's wrong with him! All in my opinion.
I don’t watch it. I refuse to. I keep up on here.
Me too
Me too
I still wish I knew what was said or done at one of Garrison’s services that finally changed Mykelti’s mind about Robyn’s hateful ways.
I would think it was about life insurance When my mother in law passed the first thing her daughter was asking was about life insurance which she thought was in her name Thank god she changed it and put it in her sons name which he was the one that had to pay for everything and daughter never paid a dime
The eyes are the mirror of the soul I have warned about this man since the first time I saw him. Completely insensitive to other people's feelings and needs. Glad the sister wives realize that God never intended to bless polygamy! Thank you Jesus for real love! ✝💜♥
She deserves to be happy. I can’t imagine losing a child as her relationship ended with Kody. I think all the ladies deserve a true love, a real man who steps up to the plate. It’s unfortunate that the kids always seem to pay the price. Now it’s up to Kody to give the ladies their part of the money he owe’s them. So far he’s playing them as fools. He’s sucking up to Mari hoping she’ll forget her share of the money, but Janelle is making sure she’s aware that she has money coming. Janelle is no dummy and will see that doesn’t happen. Kody being the snake in the grass isn’t too pleased, but boo-hoo.
I hope Janelle can find happiness. It is sad that the kids really suffered because of Kody and this show
I think of Janelle really trying....like when she bought & put that trailer on Coyote pass, Robyns girls making rude comments about it, kody & Robyn living in a mansion. Janelle with her plans she had drawn up. Sometimes we all only see things a certain way, we try our best, we trust others... nvr realizing there are others in this world so selfish & ugly at heart.
Kody would want his “cut” of the sale money because he is a greedy waste of space.
Christine, Janelle and Meri should be free of Kody and Robyn and should have the choice to break ties with them and not have to even worry about Kody or Robyn ever again. They must move on and never look back and have to listen to his lies
I've handled out-of-state probate/estate settlement for a very emotionally challenging and painful loss. I was the only beneficiary and it was still a terrible business. So many details to manage, and each one brings grief back to the surface. The attorney only files things and communicates with the court for you; the financial forensics and reconciling is all on you. This is very good news for Janelle and her other kids in terms of healing. Closing probate can't come soon enough for anyone.
He looks so innocent and hurt. A little boy who couldn't understand why his daddy who was his hero abandoned him. Daddy who chose his new family time after time. A dad who wouldn't admit what he saw in their own 2 eyes. Alcohol and depression is like adding jet fuel to fire.
It doesn't matter how old you get, or how much you know in your mind you don't deserve it... it still hurts when your parents treat you like you don't matter ans is incapable of being the mature adult they are supposed ro be. It is an aching that never completely goes away. And no matter how crappy they treat you, you want their love. It sucks. But at least once you are an adult you can make the decision whether to let them be in your life and continue to hurt you!
Going through it right now. It’s impossible to allow a loved one to rest in peace until the case is closed. I can’t even imagine how difficult it is for her as a mother. God bless.
I wouldn’t put it past Kody AT ALL to have tried to get a piece of Garrison’s life insurance and/or proceeds from his home. This could go a long way in explaining his sudden animosity toward Janelle.
That would not surprise me at all.
It makes me sick but makes so much sense
I also think so as well, I’ve heard rumors that the falling out between the family was because Robyn Brown asked about the will at the funeral.
@@tarabourgeois5807That would not be surprising
Wish there was a way Janelle can take him to court for "forcing" her to be stuck owning part of coyote pass.
She signed the deals, so no not really. Now when he uses it as collateral for other things she possibly can go after that.
I'm sure she can . They are domestic partners . These things are adjudicated every day in civil court .
She can force it. It’s like partners. It’s like a fivorce. This will be Janelle’s divorce once and for all. Poor Meri…it’ll be her third divorce from Kody
She can sue The Kodster to force the sale.
Janelle has always been my favorite on the show. She seems so smart and kind. I don’t want to hear about kodys sadness or his wife for that matter. You do such a great job on this show.❤
I still get a pit in my stomach when I see pictures of Garrison. A wonderful young man but Kody couldn't see how well Garrison (& Gabriel ) were doing! Kody is a POS. 😠
Kody is a piece of trash when he didn't sit by Janelle at Garrisons memorial that showed us all what a low life ,non human he is!!!
Me too
No matter what Garrison said, he needed and deserved a father. He was so hurt and so sad. Bless his heart. I think having a home where someone unalived himself, especially a public family. It’s a shame.
I agree💯
I'm nearly 50 and I still need my dad. Kody didnt give a dam about his OWN OG KIDS. If robbem didn't birth them then he doesn't care. Janelle has said he hadn't been in touch with savannah yet he's on screen moaning about how he doesn't get invited to her graduation party. If he was to be invited I think all the kids would leave
I could see Kody demanding a portion of the proceeds from anything related to Garrison.
I honestly have a feeling Grody is hoping for Janelle and Meri to just sign the Coyote Pass lots over to him so he doesn't have to do the honorable thing. He is the very definition of a sadist. He truly enjoys inflicting pain on the people in his vicinity and periphery.
I love Janelle & Christine, they were the reason I even watched the show, I would fast forward the scenes with Kody & Robin
Hi Katy, I have been thru the probate process when my father passed away in 2021, it took a year for everything to runs it's course, I am so happy Janelle can close the chapter on this part of her journey.
Thanks for all the hard work u do
You’re very welcome!
I think Kody is planning to stall until Janelle and Meri are so frustrated that they sign a quit claim deed for pennies on the dollar, just to end the connection.
Kody is a tool 🔧
They should be just as stubborn as he is.
I disagree. Tools are useful.
A friend of mine commited suicide a week ago. He was responsible for helping my husband get his start in his career over a decade ago and we owe a lot of where we were able to be now to him. We'd not seen him a lot since we recently moved but we'd stayed in touch. But not even his best friend saw the signs. Due to the current distance it still feels far away, but it's difficult to process. I can't even imagine if it was a family member... more less a child.
I’m so sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss. I hope you and their family heal
I'm sorry that you have lost your friend. Sometimes people have say they are going to self eliminate don't and then the ones who are quiet sometimes do it.
@ thank you for those kind words. 🙏🏼
Don’t even watch the show anymore. Just look forward to your updates.
If you understood narcissism, you would see that this is about one of the 4 prime aims of the narcissist-control. As long as Kody keeps The land, he controls Janelle and Meri. He is not capable of being a decent and caring person. He is driven by his narcissism which is his survival mechanism.
I feel like he’s been erased too. It’s very sad. I think viewers would like to see him with his family he was so close to before he was gone. I just hope they do right by this wonderful young man struggles and all. It is a time to help others in this cult by showing how this happens and how much happiness he had with his siblings, Christine, and Janelle. Gabe has also been erased from scenes which is also sad. They were so close he should be shown.
I dream of a day when Janelle knows what it’s like to be loved unconditionally by a partner.🥰
Yes. Janelle is such a sweet person. She deserves someone special in her life. ❤️
Me too! Wouldn't that be the most amazing thing? Every woman , every person, deserves that..❤️
I think so too, but she needs to get over those cultish beliefs.
Amen 🙏
Janelle had a husband, she knows
It so so sad seeing Garrison's pics, what a tragic loss. I'm sure she received a life insurance policy, he was military, most of them carry a good policy. I hope Janelle can find happiness like Christine did. Kody is absentee everything. Shame on him and the turkey neck motivating him.
There are rumors all over FB that he has bought both Janelle and Meri out. For 340k and 300k each. Wonder if there is any truth to this.
I doubt it , he wouldn't have the money.
I hope it is true so Meri and Janelle won’t have any more ties to that SOB
I am surprised that Kootie didn't try to get part of the money.
Maybe he did and that’s why some kids are finally done with him?🤷🏼♀️
@@Noname1234nc That's what I feel also. I think that's why Mykelti finally cut ties with Sobyn and The Kodster.
Kody IS mean and petty. He didn't get what he wanted (which was to keep on abusing these women, verbally and financially) and they LEFT. Now, to be able to take out his aggressions on them he has to verbally bash them, tell lies about them, and accuse them of doing exactly what HE is doing. They took away his 'whipping boy' and his fun in stealing from them, so he's going to hold them up on Coyote Pass till they get attorneys and kick him off his throne. When this happens, look out Robyn! He's coming for you and your kids. There's stuff WRONG with Kody. I think he had an abusive childhood, and now it's coming out in his other interactions.
It's hard to sell a house someone has died in. Even harder when the death is a suicide.
Thanks!
Kody is keeping hold of coyote pass as his last bit of control over them. I think he is hoping they get fed up waiting and let him have it all. I can't stand this creep! 😡
And Meri even gave Kody and Robyn an additional $74,000--which she did not owe them, doesn't have a receipt, and her name is not on the deed.
I agree. He’s spiteful and wants to control his subordinate wives. He’s a pig, but he’s giving them a bad name.
@@patevans3709I bet he told Meri the 74k was her share to pay it off. I bet he lied to her about it. He is probably using it for collateral for his new house.
I would imagine that is the plan.Robyn doesn't want to sell CP
Unbelievable @@patevans3709
I'm happy for Janelle, and I hope she finds peace.
I don’t understand how they paid off Coyote Pass. I feel like we kept hearing they didn’t have the funds to pay it off and to pay the taxes. Of course, since then, Kody has also managed to buy a $2m house. It doesn’t make sense. What’s their income source?
Hello from Glasgow 🏴
It’s wild that Kody claims he wanted to sell but Robyn said no. Made me wonder, until he bought that house, if Robyn wanted to keep it for an asset while planning to leave Kody.
One of the hardest things I dealt with in being estranged from my abusive father was when he tried to reconcile just a few years before his passing. It was really difficult to have gone through all the "lovebombing" once again to be let down.
When he passed I was not even given any mention knowing he had a will.
I had already accepted his toxic behavior, and had gone through the whole process of being ignored once again.
No matter what our age it still hurts because those of us with empathy feel it all.
Letting it go, learning not to care takes times, but when you make peace with all there is such a release. Realizing that it has nothing to do with you, but for allowing it to continue, makes all the difference once you finally cut them off.
I do hope they all find happiness once they realize life is so much more than trying to make one person behave better towards you. 😊
Most military men leave their life insurance to their moms or wife
And Kody expects us to watch him and Robyn to tell the tale of the sacred love story of how they met and how he is really in love and every man wants Robyn, they can finally express their love freely,.....blah, blah, blah, gag
Wait a minute….. is his passing going to be DURING this Christmas Season?!? 😳
Oh I hope not. That would be VERY Hard for the Family to be seeing this during The Holidays. (And Selfishly- Me Too!!)
I had to go through probate as the executive of my grandmas estate. She lived in Arkansas , owned multiple homes, and had no debt nor home loans. Even still it took about a year and the lawyer cost me around $5k. She only had a will and no one was contesting it. It was so frustrating that it cost so much $$. My husband and I have been trying to get his parents to make a living trust so it doesn’t cost us anything and everything switches over immediately. (In California) Problem
Is that they can’t agree on anything since they have kids from prior marriages 😩
I’m hoping Janel stays gone from the poison from Kody and Sob’n Robin. She her worth is way way more than what she even realizes.
Can't blame Janelle for not wanting Kody to she is leaving. He is going to demand his share from the sale of the townhouse
If the townhouse was left to Janelle by Garrison, Kody has no "share"
Kody isn't on his birth certificate... so legally he could not demand any share of the estate unless he goes and gets a Paternity test. Even then, if Garrison's left everything to Janelle in his will, I don't think Kody could contest it.
@NurseKat-3893 Kody is on his birth certificate and all of Janelle's kids. Just not Christine's kids
In Janelle looking back on her life with Kody, I believe she knows she does not want: 1. To be his side piece. 2. To be his mistress. 3. To be the is concubine. 4. To be the soft place he lands without reciporcality.
Well I have some misspells and misused words due to a call coming in, but, you get the idea.
True.
If I were Meri or Janelle, I would be stubborn (just like Kody) and hold on to Coyote Pass. They both seem to be able to live without the money, so they should hold on to it. Let Kody decide when he has had enough!
If there is one thing, although it's hard to choose, that showed me how incredibly despicable and disrespectful Toadylocks is, it was when he didn't sit with Janelle, Garrison's mother, at the funeral. He sat there holding hands with Liebrows.
I quit watching this show, it’s a strange relationship this father has with his children, which is none. I can’t stand the phoniness Kody and Robyn have. I think she’s waiting for her opportunity to find a wealthy man and leave .
she was his best wife - most intellectual and intelligent tbh
And easy going , and a happy person . She's lovely .
That’s debatable
Why would any man who spends 1/3 of 25 or years with a women who births 6 of your babies say those things on nationwide and lots of other countries. So hes love with her now or never was how ? do you not? To love her for her ...love her for bringing and raising the kids the most precious gifts we are given. Just toss her and them off when they get minds of their own. He has to know how awful he sounds. He sounds cruel for fun. So immature and just a terrible person. He just had to sire 15 kids ? Just to discard them. I could never live with the shame. Guess he just wants stepford wife and kids like robots.
What a Life
They don't need to address Garrison's passing. That's their loss not ours. They're entitled to keep that part of their lives private!
I don't know why Meri and Janelle don't just get an attorney, and sue Kody. Either sell the properties with their names on it, giving them their share or he has to come up with the cash ans buy them out. He can then do whatever he wants with the land. But they have a stake in the property. They've been helping to pay it off and paying the taxes. He shouldn't be the only one deciding how this is supposed to go
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So I don't know if this is everywhere or the loan that we got,but we had to get a life insurance policy for the loan amount. They specifically said that it was to ensure that the loan would be paid off on death. I do understand that taking ones own life, insurance doesn't always pay out.
That's what I thought too😊
Janelle is a strong woman. Does anyone wonder if greedy Kody will insist on half of the proceeds from the sale of the house?
So sorry about Garrison's passing. I lost my brother in 2005. They were about the same age. Maybe my mom and Janelle should talk with each other.
Connecting can be healing. It helped when I lost my teen daughter in a single car accident. Prayers for your family. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
1st viewer. Love your channel ❤ Ty for all your views on this family. We think alike. 😂 damn 🤡 kody
I appreciate your support!
I'm interested to know if one could sell their portion of a partly owned piece of property or force a judge to allow such a sale to a third party to occur. Frankly, if this is possible in Arizona, Janelle and Mari are only holding themselves back if they aren't willing to take the legal action necessary to completely part ways from "Kody Pass"
B/c of Kody's greed I think he is trying to wait them out hoping they loose interest in wanting anything to do with Coyote Pass and then they will walk away from it.
Garrisons death doesn’t seem to make any impact on Kody at all. Kody is a disgusting pos. TLC is the problem as well. They just want to profit off this tragedy. Contract or no contract I would have left that show if I were Janelle
He might have had mortgage insurance too.
That's what I thought too and I know in Canada first mortgages you need insurance and also he had people that leased the bank would require insurance
Robyn needs to get help for her to daughters. Notice that neither one ever smiles? They both always look and sound so down and depressed ... What a sad life they must live with such a controlling sick mother, and a fool like Kody!
Why won't Kody cut ties with Meri and Janelle? I would absolutely cut all ties with my exes especially financial
I feel for Janell I hope she gets her a big country BLAck MAN that loves her
Probate can take a long time. Depends on the courts and the attorneys
And I’m so sorry this family had to go through that after such a tragic loss. He was so young
I watched the documentary 9/11: The Falling Man. It is a hard watch. But I remembered being confused why the family was so insistent that he didn't jump. In my head I am thinking that if he jumped it was because of the flames and really saw no alternative where it was any better than jumping. So to me it wasn't committing suicide even if he did jump. But the family had such a horror of the idea that he jumped. It really confused me as to why. That they believed that even in the circumstances he faced, if he jumped it was suicide and that was against their beliefs. It was just all around sad.
I couldn’t imagine moving into a house where that had happened. 😳
Robyn was the one that didn't want to sell Coyote pass.
They're probably holding on to Coyote Pass for a storyline that will still connect them all. Otherwise, there would be no reason for any of them to talk to or about Kody, except for Christine. They should cancel this show, but they won't. All of the women should stop filming but they won't - the money is too good.
I have ZERO real estate law knowledge. So this may be a really stupid question.
Could Janelle just sell her stake to a third party buyer? Then Kody would have to deal with them? Probably not legal. But man, I would love to see that. Then Janelle could just walk away. Damn, I hate Kody.
Oh what a FABULOUS idea!!!
As to if it is possible . . . It depends. It depends on what the deed reads and how they purchased the property. So maybe Yes and maybe No.
Hi from Texas
Please, please, no more Christine show...really, really over it and her.
I work in probate. In my state, the siblings inherit everything, subject to the parent’s usufruct (use/disposal). If Kody isn’t on Gabe’s birth certificate and never claimed him, much like what Christine is going through to prove Kody is Truly’s father and enforce child support, Kody will not have any legally rights to claim or use or any assets without fighting Janelle. She is likely the administrator/executor, or one of the siblings who are close by. I hope she does get use of everything. Hopefully Gabe didn’t have a lot more debt than the mortgage and she gets a little bit of something
He was on all of Jenelle kids birth certificates. Christeen kids was the only ones Jody didn't claim. They were afraid the law would come after them because they lied to get social services.
I don't think his death should be "covered" on the show. I think that whatever his family decides, is what they should include. Everybody already knows that he has passed and how, there's no need to rehash it on the show and rip open the healing wounds. If it is addressed, it should be as a tribute to him at the end of one of the episodes showing his life and accomplishments in a video.