Hi, congratulations on your purchase of a new LDR meter, it's an invaluable tool, I can't imagine working without it. I am the lucky owner of the JK2817N, it came with Kelvin clamps and I made the other accessories myself. I wish you that the meter serves complete satisfaction and that you still enjoy it as it is spread from the video. You need to have a little fun, we are only here once and life is short. Nice day 🙂 Tom
Hi, nice video. Making up my mind on one of those LCR meters. The user manual describes the Setup Options where you can change the default behaviour of 1 kHz and other stuff. From what I've read the IR to USB will output more parameters. Haven't pulled the trigger on the purchase but a strong favourite. However a bench LCR meter does come at better specs and a small surcharge to this handheld. Best from the Netherlands.
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Nice piece of gear. Great find. I'm in thr market now for an lcr meter but can't pull the trigger on a model. I look forward to seeing it in use on your projects.
I have a B&K LCR meter which I like. Likewise I had kind of wanted one for a while, but hadn't purchased because it was something I'd only use infrequently as I was busy with work and and kids and not spending much time doing hobby or Ham radio fun stuff. My youngest daughter graduates in a week - awarded Math/Calculus student of the year yesterday - and will be going on to UCSD in the fall to study electrical engineering. If things go to plan I retire in three years. So, have been trying to shift focus to building up my home lab and picked one up along with a new DSO and an HP 8563e for working on various electronic projects. One of which was replacing all the electrolytic capacitors in my TS-830s. Now that I'm fiddling with this stuff at home again the LCR meter comes in handy all the time :)
When I got an lcr meter, it was an HP 4262A. Got the meter for pretty short money, around $200, and mighty accurate. The test fixtures are killer though. They cost more than the meter.
Had one of these for several years, a very nice meter. Mine unfortunately is the 1 kHz model. Think I paid £150 for mine second hand on ebay but was in new condition, so I got lucky
I just picked up an HP 4262A from ebay for $400 (incl shipping & tax) and then had to get the 16061A text fixture for $200, also used on ebay. Everything works out of the box and I couldn't be happier. The unit has a rather large footprint, but I have not plans to use it anywhere but on the bench and I had room for it. Obviously, this is a worse value that a new Keysight handheld model, but it is what I wanted and I'm thrilled to have it. I enjoyed the video!
Nice meter. Congratulations! I've been looking at LCR meters, too. One like yours is out of my budget. The DE-5000 seems like a popular LCR meter, reportedly accurate. Not cheap either, though. East Meter ET430 seems to have somewhat copied the case appearance of your meter, and likely shoved in whatever they had laying around on the bench. Keysight needs to find a better industrial designer. Your meter looks decent, but some of their multimeters appear almost as difficult to hold as my Fluke 87vMax, which I bought for its durability, and have been filled with regret about. Keysight's organic LED displays on some meters looked poor. Mr Carson has one. I am glad you meter has a traditional LCD. I would like a Multimeter with both LCR, and a Transistor tester, built in. I am surprised that there isn't better capacitance checking in multimeters, even industrial ones like the Flukes, because there are AC starter capacitors on many AC motors, and they are a source of failure. Almost every electronic thing we own will someday die because of bad capacitors--and they won't put proper capacitance checking on multimeters. Oddly, inductors do exist in things, really! They aren't only in HAM radios. As you know, there are inductors in most computer switching power supplies, many good surge protectors, and buck converters, and other things, like cars. Though, the powers that be don't think that inductance reading belongs on a multimeter, as if add one more click on a rotary switch--and the world would come to an end. [Sometimes it would be nice to know how much inductance there is, in say, a breadboard setup, too. I have a confession: many of the capacitors I've used for projects and electronics tutorials over the years--I have pulled from discarded equipment. Shhh! : ) Ironically, there's no meter for checking speaker impedance, outside a setup like you would find at parts-express for speaker testing. I wonder if the NanoVNA might not like operating at 4-8 Ohms? You could read the inductance on your meter, and the resistance on a multimeter, and work it out. It doesn't matter anyway, because speakers don't exist, either : ) Enjoy the new meter!
Its an impressive meter, unfortunatey the croc clips here in the UK are over £100!!!!, for that price I would expect them being hand made in the enchanted forest by clockwork gremlins, come on Keysight! no way they cost anywhere near that to build. For those lookng for a cheap LCR, the DE-5000 is a respected meter as well which comes with Kelvin leads for about £100, its does just about all this does (though with less style and glamour.
Man, I don't want to rain on your parade because, personally, I hate these. I work at a calibration lab and the U1733 is a common LCR meter we get, so I used to calibrate a lot of them. Maybe it's just a distorted prespective due to how many I had but I always felt that they are out of tolerance more often compared to other models. Or maybe it's just that the owners tend to get much wilder with these than the way more expensive benchtop LCR meters. (I bet benchtop ones tend to slip off the table and fall on the ground much less, too). The thing that irks me the most about these is the sketchy open-short-calibration. The Cal button on the bottom right is for a range and frequency specific open-short-calibration. So, if you are measuring lots of different capacitances at different frequencies and ranges (lets say for calibration purposes), imagine having to do this for each of them. But to avoid this, you can do a User calibration over all frequencies and ranges if you turn it off, and turn on the device while pressing down on the Cal button. And this is where things get sketchy: With this user cal you can get entirely different measurements compared to the range and frequency specific cal. What the hell? More annyoning, though, is that you can STILL lose this user cal doing certain inputs. What a chore to work with them. I get 10 times more expensive benchtop meters done in like 40 min. but these take me usually over an hour up to an hour and a half. And apparently the Keysight technicians fare no better. A factory calibration for these costs about 700 euros. They don't even give the measurements, for those 700 euros you get a paper saying "Your device has been calibrated and was found to be in tolerance."
Hi I got this same meter keysight U1733c sometime ago but it stopped reading anything, display is active functions are switching accurately yet no reading. do you have any idea what can cause this? Appreciate.
There is a huge chance that you have "most likely" measured capacitors that you forgot to fully discharge prior using the meter as per the warning written next to the inputs and now most probably the front end of your meter is...well... "history" ...
The IR cables are great idea and all, but I've never gotten them to work properly, either for my U1733C or my U1232A. The software isn't confidence inspiring either. I have to un-brick a U1733C since a firmware update failed...it waits with UPD or whatever on the display, but the software won't send the file since it can't 'see' it. I should be able to recover it since I have the firmware file and the MCU itself has a bootloader that talks TTL RS232 with the MCU company's sofware.
Applying bias is a staple of benchtop meters. Once you're in that 1000 euros price range basically of them can do it. Frankly, I am not impressed with the GenRad 1689 because I have yet to see one which is within their very tight specifications. Also, you are very unlikely to get one for cheap as IET has insane prices.
I'm of the same thoughts about not being able to justify purchase. Perhaps when I get better at simulating circuit designs? Component tester is good enough for Inductors. Nanovna sometimes better choice as frequencies often very high. My Brymen 867s and UT61E+ also do good job. One should have toys of choice for their hobby! No comparison of accuracy with the uni-t. Buying the name🤔
It's a question I even asked you before. How can we separate the sine wave content in a square or triangular wave, by using any op-amp circuitry or may be discrete transistors?
That company made my Tenma 72-10465 which looks exactly the same to include the case. Don't bother with the software, it's from the early 2000's and simply doesn't work. Nice new toy, I agree we're getting too old to not be happy! The other thing you don't know how you ever lived without before is a decent DC load.
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Hi, congratulations on your purchase of a new LDR meter, it's an invaluable tool, I can't imagine working without it. I am the lucky owner of the JK2817N, it came with Kelvin clamps and I made the other accessories myself. I wish you that the meter serves complete satisfaction and that you still enjoy it as it is spread from the video. You need to have a little fun, we are only here once and life is short.
Nice day 🙂 Tom
Nice video & congrats on the new gear! That one is all in-house designed and built like you mentioned.
Feel free to send me other stuff to review 😀
Hilarious, but did your receive any gear to review?
Hi, nice video.
Making up my mind on one of those LCR meters.
The user manual describes the Setup Options where you can change the default behaviour of 1 kHz and other stuff.
From what I've read the IR to USB will output more parameters.
Haven't pulled the trigger on the purchase but a strong favourite. However a bench LCR meter does come at better specs and a small surcharge to this handheld.
Best from the Netherlands.
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Nice piece of gear. Great find. I'm in thr market now for an lcr meter but can't pull the trigger on a model. I look forward to seeing it in use on your projects.
I have a B&K LCR meter which I like. Likewise I had kind of wanted one for a while, but hadn't purchased because it was something I'd only use infrequently as I was busy with work and and kids and not spending much time doing hobby or Ham radio fun stuff.
My youngest daughter graduates in a week - awarded Math/Calculus student of the year yesterday - and will be going on to UCSD in the fall to study electrical engineering. If things go to plan I retire in three years.
So, have been trying to shift focus to building up my home lab and picked one up along with a new DSO and an HP 8563e for working on various electronic projects. One of which was replacing all the electrolytic capacitors in my TS-830s. Now that I'm fiddling with this stuff at home again the LCR meter comes in handy all the time :)
Great to hear about your daughter. I remember my daughter sent me a message she got high score on a calculus test. Was an art major at the time!
When I got an lcr meter, it was an HP 4262A. Got the meter for pretty short money, around $200, and mighty accurate. The test fixtures are killer though. They cost more than the meter.
Had one of these for several years, a very nice meter. Mine unfortunately is the 1 kHz model. Think I paid £150 for mine second hand on ebay but was in new condition, so I got lucky
I just picked up an HP 4262A from ebay for $400 (incl shipping & tax) and then had to get the 16061A text fixture for $200, also used on ebay. Everything works out of the box and I couldn't be happier. The unit has a rather large footprint, but I have not plans to use it anywhere but on the bench and I had room for it. Obviously, this is a worse value that a new Keysight handheld model, but it is what I wanted and I'm thrilled to have it. I enjoyed the video!
That unit is a classic that everyone wanted. Yes the test fixtures are stupid expensive
Same boat here but my meter was cheaper
"i don't have that many years left" kinda sad to hear it.
I ain't that young either.
Well, at least we have free medical care (Canuck). I wondered why I was ordering so many toys online recently. Must be my age!
Nice meter. Congratulations!
I've been looking at LCR meters, too. One like yours is out of my budget. The DE-5000 seems like a popular LCR meter, reportedly accurate. Not cheap either, though. East Meter ET430 seems to have somewhat copied the case appearance of your meter, and likely shoved in whatever they had laying around on the bench.
Keysight needs to find a better industrial designer. Your meter looks decent, but some of their multimeters appear almost as difficult to hold as my Fluke 87vMax, which I bought for its durability, and have been filled with regret about. Keysight's organic LED displays on some meters looked poor. Mr Carson has one. I am glad you meter has a traditional LCD.
I would like a Multimeter with both LCR, and a Transistor tester, built in. I am surprised that there isn't better capacitance checking in multimeters, even industrial ones like the Flukes, because there are AC starter capacitors on many AC motors, and they are a source of failure. Almost every electronic thing we own will someday die because of bad capacitors--and they won't put proper capacitance checking on multimeters.
Oddly, inductors do exist in things, really! They aren't only in HAM radios. As you know, there are inductors in most computer switching power supplies, many good surge protectors, and buck converters, and other things, like cars. Though, the powers that be don't think that inductance reading belongs on a multimeter, as if add one more click on a rotary switch--and the world would come to an end.
[Sometimes it would be nice to know how much inductance there is, in say, a breadboard setup, too. I have a confession: many of the capacitors I've used for projects and electronics tutorials over the years--I have pulled from discarded equipment. Shhh! : )
Ironically, there's no meter for checking speaker impedance, outside a setup like you would find at parts-express for speaker testing. I wonder if the NanoVNA might not like operating at 4-8 Ohms? You could read the inductance on your meter, and the resistance on a multimeter, and work it out. It doesn't matter anyway, because speakers don't exist, either : )
Enjoy the new meter!
I got one for the same reason. I had a more limited functionality Peek unit before picking it up though.
I got Lutron LCR9183 for $100, looks like it has all of it. Keysight is Keysight, so... the price must be higher. Great buy!
Its an impressive meter, unfortunatey the croc clips here in the UK are over £100!!!!, for that price I would expect them being hand made in the enchanted forest by clockwork gremlins, come on Keysight! no way they cost anywhere near that to build.
For those lookng for a cheap LCR, the DE-5000 is a respected meter as well which comes with Kelvin leads for about £100, its does just about all this does (though with less style and glamour.
I am happy with my BK Precision one, but I didn't get the better model that does ESR. But I have a Blue already.
If that is like my Keysight U1240 series DMM, check the manual. There is a setting for backlight time out on my DMM.
I also have the UT612; I think it reads large L a bit high.
I've been looking at a hantek 1833C, still not sure.
ENVY! 😍
Man, I don't want to rain on your parade because, personally, I hate these. I work at a calibration lab and the U1733 is a common LCR meter we get, so I used to calibrate a lot of them. Maybe it's just a distorted prespective due to how many I had but I always felt that they are out of tolerance more often compared to other models. Or maybe it's just that the owners tend to get much wilder with these than the way more expensive benchtop LCR meters. (I bet benchtop ones tend to slip off the table and fall on the ground much less, too).
The thing that irks me the most about these is the sketchy open-short-calibration. The Cal button on the bottom right is for a range and frequency specific open-short-calibration. So, if you are measuring lots of different capacitances at different frequencies and ranges (lets say for calibration purposes), imagine having to do this for each of them. But to avoid this, you can do a User calibration over all frequencies and ranges if you turn it off, and turn on the device while pressing down on the Cal button. And this is where things get sketchy: With this user cal you can get entirely different measurements compared to the range and frequency specific cal. What the hell?
More annyoning, though, is that you can STILL lose this user cal doing certain inputs. What a chore to work with them. I get 10 times more expensive benchtop meters done in like 40 min. but these take me usually over an hour up to an hour and a half.
And apparently the Keysight technicians fare no better. A factory calibration for these costs about 700 euros. They don't even give the measurements, for those 700 euros you get a paper saying "Your device has been calibrated and was found to be in tolerance."
Hi I got this same meter keysight U1733c sometime ago but it stopped reading anything, display is active functions are switching accurately yet no reading. do you have any idea what can cause this? Appreciate.
There is a huge chance that you have "most likely" measured capacitors that you forgot to fully discharge prior using the meter as per the warning written next to the inputs and now most probably the front end of your meter is...well... "history" ...
Still no 50Hz test frequency.
The IR cables are great idea and all, but I've never gotten them to work properly, either for my U1733C or my U1232A. The software isn't confidence inspiring either.
I have to un-brick a U1733C since a firmware update failed...it waits with UPD or whatever on the display, but the software won't send the file since it can't 'see' it. I should be able to recover it since I have the firmware file and the MCU itself has a bootloader that talks TTL RS232 with the MCU company's sofware.
Look out for a GenRad 1689 LCR ....and you can apply a DC bias to measure varactor capacitance...
Anyway your new meter is nice...
Applying bias is a staple of benchtop meters. Once you're in that 1000 euros price range basically of them can do it. Frankly, I am not impressed with the GenRad 1689 because I have yet to see one which is within their very tight specifications. Also, you are very unlikely to get one for cheap as IET has insane prices.
I'm of the same thoughts about not being able to justify purchase. Perhaps when I get better at simulating circuit designs? Component tester is good enough for Inductors.
Nanovna sometimes better choice as frequencies often very high.
My Brymen 867s and UT61E+ also do good job.
One should have toys of choice for their hobby!
No comparison of accuracy with the uni-t. Buying the name🤔
It's a question I even asked you before. How can we separate the sine wave content in a square or triangular wave, by using any op-amp circuitry or may be discrete transistors?
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Did you get the external power supply? The unit eats batteries.
Sounds same as a BK Precision 880. Ive heard not so great things about its standby power consumption.
I wondered why it had a power connector. It is standard 12V so already have something that will work.
@@IMSAIGuy I got mine new and it came with the power adapter.
maybe I should go look inside the box
nope, and the box did not list it as an included item.
Yep, I am old enough to need to go ahead and buy toys. You can't take it (money) with you, when you go..
That company made my Tenma 72-10465 which looks exactly the same to include the case. Don't bother with the software, it's from the early 2000's and simply doesn't work. Nice new toy, I agree we're getting too old to not be happy! The other thing you don't know how you ever lived without before is a decent DC load.
I'm happy with my DIY electronic load. It kept blowing FETs until I found the right one. Datasheets don't tell you all you need.
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