G303 has a rock solid shell for when the other team is full of smurfs or hackers and you smash your mouse on the pad. It's okay in the remaining 10% of games, too.
i just broke my steelseries rival700 when i smashed my mouse on the pad. (i smashed it twice, and like 10-20 times before) i was looking at this video and decided to buy the zowie, then saw your comment, now i'm going for the g303 xD
For anyone wanting to know about scrolling in terms of bhopping, as I don't know how much you can say about it Rocket Jump Ninja, Zowie mice tend to stop between notches in the scroll wheel and you can accidentally jump when engaging in gun fights and this can lose you very important rounds. However, besides the scroll wheel, Zowie mice are extremely good and used by TONS of top players. Some of the better scroll wheels are the g303, considered a god tier scroll wheel (at least that's what I hear from blasdfa, top kz player, I could never get used to the shape due to having extremely large hands). I personally am using a Deathadder Chroma, and because I am obsessive over how responsive my sensor is, I can say that it is extremely good. The scroll wheel takes a bit of getting used to but is really nice once you get used to it. Lastly, the Rival has a great scroll wheel and a lot of great players use it so I would recommend checking it out if you enjoy the shape of that one. Lastly, I am not taking into account the sound of the scroll wheel, just how easy I have found these mice to bhop and play with.
Just a side note, the Fnatic Flick is an amazing mouse, with a good shape with Omrons, RGB lighting, a good scroll wheel and nice side buttons. LOD might be a problem, but if you can get over it, the Flick is a good mouse. I love your content btw, good job.
lift of distance is tiny, best mouse sensor availble, no software to slow down the input etc, does not need any drivers and its light as fuck..... so yeah
Really 23cm and by 9 with your thumb as I did in the video? Those are some seriously long fingers. The Rival 300 might actually be your best bet! It's really long but narrow at the front.
Devil's Advocate That makes more sense. Ok so unfortunately there aren't too many big mice... DeathAdder seems to be the go-to big mouse, EC1-A is slightly smaller, Rival 300 is a bit too thin, and I haven't tried the Asus ROG Gladius. I haven't spoken to many 6'8 guys about mice though, so if you want to share what you've found with various mice, I can start including the info in reviews!
Thanks to this channel im never again looking for info on mice anywhere else online. Straight to the point, relevant info, good reasoning. This is what youtube channels should be like. subbed
i bought an ec2-a yesterday and then this video was uploaded today... good thing the ec2-a is at no2 but i wouldnt have expect much difference from you zy. as always, amazing video, great recommendations.
I know it's a rough guide, but two mice in different size categories shouldn't have the exact same hand size recommendations(I thought there would be a .5-1cm increase/decrease that's all) as I really do doubt a 15cm claw gripper can hold a sensei shaped mouse as well as a smaller mouse like a g303 or fk2. This is just my opinion though.
Got the zowie fk1 a couple of weeks ago, upgrading from a steelseries sensei. I have to say that the fk1 is the best mouse i have ever used, so damn good, and my aim improved so damn much! Thank you Zy for your reviews and thank you for your awesome channel ^__^
Yes, it isn't G502 quality however on the recent BenQ version you can most definitely feel the steps of the scroll wheel where changing weapons/jumping on CSGO is quite easy.
PlautusGamingWorld They are releasing a new Logitech mouse soon, see if you like it. RGB, Great Optical Sensor, Lightweight, Programmable Buttons, and is pretty cheap for a good gaming mouse. gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/pro-gaming-mouse
No lie, my hand is the same vertical and horizontal measurements as your hands... which means: *when you say how a mouse feels I can easily relate*. Making this the perfect channel for me, a 'perfect fit' :)
matu1181 175 cm. But having large hands and feet run in the family. Shoes are also a pain. Looking for size 12 shoes here in the Philippines is pure hell.
+MISOT I can understand. I'm Pinoy too but I grew up in the US and whenever I get clothes from there I have to get XXXL and I'm normal for the US at 181 cm and I wear medium here.
Your best mouse in the world has a awkward shape, a coating that is slippery with both dry and sweaty hands, stiff buttons that are hard to spam, very bad scrollwheel, worst m4/5 buttons on planet, too huge mouse feet which caus a lot of unneccessary friction and feels a bit sluggish / not snappy in game. Just because the author is this video gets money to praise zowie mice and because they do the same with most of the pro player it leads to the fact that zowie is overrated by fanboys.
zerfino Bruh, i said that it's my opinion. I had in my hands many mice, liek dadder, fk1 &2 , rival 100, 300 and it's csgo ed, some natec mouses, 2 logitech mice and much more. Ec1-a is simply the best 4 me atm. btw zey now me from my wantaps.
my mouse of choice atm is the deathadder. my hand is about 17.5cm long and 9.3cm wide, but the biggest selling point for me are the rubber sides, amazing sensor and most importantly the buttons's shape. my grip is a hybrid between a palm and a claw grip and i keep THREE of my fingers on top of the mouse. The DA's button shape gives me a place where i can rest my ring finger. I've owned one for 1.5yrs, absolutely no complaints.
Gamesgi - Gaming and More yeah a mouse isnt meant to feel like a glove kid.. its obvs too big for you, and ive tried mice that are way to big and they feel amazing in hand but i bet your minecraft aim is shit with it, go for a ec2a or razer basilisk kid
Its good to see that Logitech are beginning to make really good mice now, with the releases of the G403, 703 and 900. I personally use the G402 but soon upgrading to 403. Soon they will own the gaming mice market.
I had a Kone Pure Military for over a year, then the sensor stopped responding and my left mouse button stopped working. Maybe I'm unlucky, I tried repairing it but with no success (changing the microswitch for the left button). I hope I'll find a better mouse that fits my hand. I most likely will not use any ROCCAT product again :/
I have the zowie ec1-a and i Have seriously never aimed better. The easy dpi adjustment is great, it's really responsive and the sensor is amazing. I'm not saying it will work for you but it's still a great mouse. Also very good build quality, I really can't find anything wrong with this mouse. If you're a big fan of LED lighting and RGB, then this one isn't for you, it does Adjust depending on the dpi but that's it. It's also plug and play which means you can take it wherever you want with no problems. 10/10 mouse
Your reviews have encouraged me to me to buy a zowie ec2-a and I love it! It perfect I have a medium hand (forgot hand size) and play claw. Btw keep up the great work
Will you be reviewing the new Nixeus Revel? At first I didn't really like it, but now I've been using it for a couple weeks and I must say, it's beginning to rock for FPS.
been using a G502PC from logitech. it's on the heavier side but the micoswithes are solid. build quality is great and the sensor was rated as best available on the commercial market in 2014. a bit expensive and has no rgb. but the software is easy to use. has a massive dpi range for when using multi monitors and overall works great. my only complaint after using it the past year is the placement of dpi+ button which at times can activate if I hit my mouse against my laptop bezel on smaller desks while flicking. still an awesome product. I would certainly recommend it.
Hey Zy, wondered if you had some advice. I've been struggling to find my perfect mouse. I have hands 20cm long and 12cm wide, but most large mice feel uncontrollable to me. Especially Zowies made for my size hands make my skin get stuck between the mouse and mat, and I struggle picking them up and finding a place to rest my fingers comfortably. Right now, my favourite mouse is the G Pro for 'slower' shooters and the Rival 110 for twitch shooters (Razer Abyssus 2014 was my favourite shape but I've gone through 3 and they all developed issues), but it still doesnt feel perfect. With both mouse I have a palm grip, with my fingers going way over the mouse buttons. This is so far the best way to aim and feel comfortable for me, but I feel like there's still room for improvement. I was thinking maybe a higher mouse that's still relatively small might work better for me, but I struggle finding one.
Hi Rocket...I have a question. Is the Roccat Kone XTD Optical a good Mouse for FPS? I know the Laser Version of the XTD is bullshit but what about the Optical Version? The Optical Version has a Avago ADNS-S3988 Senor. Can you Help me? is the 3310 Sensor better then that 3988?
I have the EC1-a and I find it to be the best mouse I have ever used. I have used deathadders, fk1 and fk1, logitches g400s, steelseries sensei and steelseries rival, personally I find the EC1-a to be my favorite out of the lot. I have ordered an EC2-a anyway as I feel that the shell would fit my hand better due to it being slightly smaller.
Yoo Zy, you didn't explain why you prefer the Zowie FK1/2 over the Zowie EC2-A. Can you please explain on this comment why you prefer that one over the EC2-A? I think quite some people would like to know. Awesome video as always ;)
I want to buy a good mouse for FPS games like OW to play competitive mostly. My hand has 20cm size aprox. Is Deathadder, SteelSeries or Zowie a good choice?
Hey Zy, great video ! I have 21.5 cm hands, and I returned the ec1a because it was too big for me (aggressive claw grip). I got a g303 and im fairly happy with it. My favorite shape is the Sensei, so what mouse would you recommend I get if I want to switch from the g303?
I have a relatively big hand (20cm by 10), use a palm/fingertip hybrid, and I have the deathadder elite. Lengthwise it's fine, the issue I have with it is its width. I play fps's (99.9% of the time) and I'm questioning whether to get the ec2-a or the fk2. What is your opinion? (I have an old g502 proteus core and a kinzu v3, in case you need comparisons :) ) Ps: Never having used the kinzu v3 (gave it to a relative cuz I didn't need it) before, I did as well as I did with the deathadder, but I felt more comfortable - meaning, I do good with smaller mice than the deathadder (but the kinzu I think it's just a bit overly small)
Got Zowie Fk2, Ec2-a, Rapoo v300, Logitech g303 and Roccat Kova. Been switching from one to another many times, but recently i realized that g303 is the best for me. It has the most smooth gliding and precise sensor I ever played with, and the build quality of it is superb(best mouse buttons and one of the best scroll wheels on the market). The 3310 sensor of the zowie's is decent, but its quite too sharp - good for fast aiming(flick shots), but i prefer much the smoothness of the g303 - it just gives you the feeling of full control.
Nice vid, sub! :) Is the fk2 and steelseries sensei has same size and shape? Cuz i have a sensei and i really love the shape and the way my hands feel when i grip the mice, but i hate the build and the sensor, planning to switch to a new mice, i ha e tried ec2a but i dont like its shape, hope to get your reply :) thanks, and again very nice vid, very informative
I'm starting to point towards the Zowie EC-1A, since it is the widest that I saw, but do you know any that are wider? My hand is about 9.5 cm wide and i cant find a comfortable mouse. I'm currently using the rival 300 and my pinky is hitting my mousepad a fair amount.
I've been waiting for this video, so thanks zai! I disagree with your zowie bias, as currently my favourite mouse for csgo is the razer deathadder chroma. Unfortunately the zowie ec2-a sensor craps out for low sensitivity players, whereas the deathadder keeps tracking. i was using the g402 for all around. today i got a new mouse for game dev, the g502 is my new test candidate. @rocketJumpNinja what are your thoughts on gameDev or work Mice?
I don't know anything about gameDev. And the EC2-A sensor doesn't fail for low sensitivity players. You must have got a dud. I don't think "bias" is the right word. I play best with two of the Zowie mice, that's all.
Pretty nice list mouses liked more is: Mx300, Deathadder and Flick G1 Overall you're one of the best reviewers on YT I'm my opinion. Next time top mouses for Osu! maybe (?
osu! MiraLyn Omg I got a reply from a Osu! player my thing is that I don't wanna buy tablet I wan't the "challenge" of playing with mouse :/ Because im gonna buy a Corsair Sabre on September but other oppinions on various mice should be good too
Yeah, mouse give some challenge, I was playing on tablet like for 2 years. Now I switch to mouse and it give me a lot of fun :^) But I probably should have bigger mouse cuz have big hands ;d
I want a mouse similar to the deathadder chroma. That is what I've been using for 2 years, but I recently broke mine. I no longer want to purchase razer products. So what mouse would you recommend?
My hand is 20 cm long and 10.5 cm in width, but the Deathadder feels too big for me or atleast wrong somehow. Any idea why that is? It kind of hurts my hand to play with it intensively for an extended period of time. I'm thinking of trying the EC2-A instead, but idk.
Hey Zy, i got a question, I do play CS:GO and i have been using a Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 for 7 years, and it was doing his job prety fine(great mouse btw) even though the side rubbers were gone in 2 years of use, but recently it started to show some problems with scroll and i'm tired of having to change batteries, so i think its time for an upgrade i guess, what do you recommend?, my hand is 18.5 cm / 9 cm, i use Fingertip Grip, thanks in advance (sorry for bad english).
I'll probably pick the DM 1 Pro S, good shape, good sensor, omron, great mouse overrall.. Thanks for the help mate! i'll update here when i get mine =']
Would the Deathadder be a good choice for me? I use claw and my hands are 18cm, 10cm. I'm also very heavy handed, so I enjoy a bit of heft to my mouse.
@@tommy2181 Absolutely agree bro... the DeathAdder is so often copied of other Companies but never reached 😁. I've been using the DeathAdder for many years now and tried all the other brands out maybe to replace my DeathAdder, but no way. No other mouse is so comfortable as my DeathAdder Elite, pushing the buttons don't tire your fingers in long term gaming sessions, so impressive. Everyone can claim what he wants about Razer.
I have the gigabyte xm300, and I love it. Very comfortable, and i have had no build quality issues. It is also only around $35 usd (I believe), so it is a great alternative to the deathadder. One that I don't like about it are the scroll wheel, which you have to be careful with it if you use it to switch weapons because it over-scrolls if you aren't sensitive, because it is. Also, if it is hot where you live or you have sweaty hands, it can get a little sweaty. But it is definitely a top-tier mouse for a mid tier price
Hello I watched many of your videos on mice. I have a small question: Why do you always Mouse Optical and laser and is not the difference between the two technologies. thank you very much Sorry i am French :D
-Alright, i have a question and it is quite hard.. i really love the look of the razer mamba tournament edition.. but seriously, i have to play cs:go, is there a big difference between the razer mamba and the razer deathadder? Like, yes, i know there may be a difference, but it is like a very big difference? is it playable with the razer mamba tournament edition? Do you reccomend me upgrading from the cm devastator to the razer mamba tournament edition? Will it be a big difference? thanks..
RussianGuyRus Sorry I might be late.Mamba has a weak laser sensor.Deathadder has top optical , so its better for fps games.The shape of DA is better for me.On mamba my pinky hurts just like on corsair m65 pro white.
Are you planning on reviewing Zowie ZA series and how it compares to FK series, shape wise? Both are ambidextrous which I like and I cant decide which one I prefer
I reviewed the ZA series... I couldn't see a reason to choose them over other mice with similar shapes. EC2-A is the best of its kind and FK2 is unique enough to get the nod over the ZA.
reason for fk over ec2a? I have an old fk1 and just ordered a ec2a as the ambidextrous feel started to hurt my hand and wanted something more ergonomical
would you be able to do a review of the Logitech G Pro when it comes out? there seems to be quite a bit of hype about it and I want to see if it is worth upgrading from the g303.
My hand is 18cm x 10.5cm and i find the deathadder has the most optimal shape for me. I typically use it in a relaxed palm grip for general use and games that don't require a lot of mouse accuracy like league of legends, then claw grip for jittering in minecraft pvp. When i palm my fingers reach about the edge of the click buttons, so i move them back a good bit when i claw
What Zowie ECA mouse would you recommend for an 18.75cm x 9cm with palm grip, 400 dpi. I have asked Zowie themselves, as well as /r/mousereview & have gotten mixed responses. I currently use a RIval 300 & it seems just a tad big for my liking. I also owned a G502 before that & I felt there wasn't enough room for my pink on the side, it would drag on my mousepad. Thanks in advance!
hello zy, will the huano switches effect my aim or not since im used to omron switches. because i realy like the ec1-a and i want to buy it and i need an answer please
I'm not zy but I'll give you my opinion. In my opinion, it won't affect your aim if you don't spam the mouse really fast all the time (so no in fps games). However, it will if you get tired after clicking a stiff switch often(for me I don't get tired(I get no fatigue, but I PERFER lighter clicks like the g303 and of course, you won't aim as well as normal if your fingers hurt). I think for osu though, I would be careful as the click could be too stiff for those types of games for you. Ultimately, you are pushing the mouse down and in no other direction which in theroy, should only make the mouse slighter harder to move, not make the mouse move in any direction other than the direction the gravity is forcing the object on easier to move so no, it should not alter your aim in any way unless again, another factor interferes(ie sore fingers or injured Palm, wrist, etc).
Any recommendations for a good G9 replacement? It was excellent for a claw grip-style user like myself, plus I need the weights because I prefer a heavy mouse. Thank you.
I've owned three deathadders, and all three have come across one problem. The rubber grip keeps coming off after a couple months of use. It might come down to the fact that I grip my mice really tight, or just poor build quality, but it really frustrates me that such a great mouse has such a small problem that really bugs me. I still use them, and still love them, but god theyre annoying. :(
G303 has a rock solid shell for when the other team is full of smurfs or hackers and you smash your mouse on the pad. It's okay in the remaining 10% of games, too.
This is too fucking accurate.
Can it withstand Russians rushing b??
Nope nothing can withstand Russians...too much vodka and not vodka proof
i just broke my steelseries rival700 when i smashed my mouse on the pad. (i smashed it twice, and like 10-20 times before) i was looking at this video and decided to buy the zowie, then saw your comment, now i'm going for the g303 xD
For anyone wanting to know about scrolling in terms of bhopping, as I don't know how much you can say about it Rocket Jump Ninja, Zowie mice tend to stop between notches in the scroll wheel and you can accidentally jump when engaging in gun fights and this can lose you very important rounds. However, besides the scroll wheel, Zowie mice are extremely good and used by TONS of top players. Some of the better scroll wheels are the g303, considered a god tier scroll wheel (at least that's what I hear from blasdfa, top kz player, I could never get used to the shape due to having extremely large hands). I personally am using a Deathadder Chroma, and because I am obsessive over how responsive my sensor is, I can say that it is extremely good. The scroll wheel takes a bit of getting used to but is really nice once you get used to it. Lastly, the Rival has a great scroll wheel and a lot of great players use it so I would recommend checking it out if you enjoy the shape of that one.
Lastly, I am not taking into account the sound of the scroll wheel, just how easy I have found these mice to bhop and play with.
Just a side note, the Fnatic Flick is an amazing mouse, with a good shape with Omrons, RGB lighting, a good scroll wheel and nice side buttons. LOD might be a problem, but if you can get over it, the Flick is a good mouse.
I love your content btw, good job.
топовый Казах? И какие места берет его тима хотябы в СНГ?
Finally, someone agrees with me!
Or get a keyboard with a good spacebar.
YourMamLastNight ヅ you still can't bhop with a spacebar........
this channel is under rated this SHOULD be Known as the go to gaming mice reviewer ;D
truly the most detailed review I've seen - glad to have it on our site
If the fnatic Flick is bad for lifting off, how can flusha use it?
Sack Of Potatoes but he's not on fnatic fool
flusha use a Rival 300
Sack Of Potatoes cause he hacks
Flusha does use the Flick, check his wiki.
Sack Of Potatoes flusha cheats
Using a finalmouse and love it. So lightweight and smooth feeling.
+Siber KONTROLL It was supposed to come out last month in that time I've bought two zowies
Yeap love it
lift of distance is tiny, best mouse sensor availble, no software to slow down the input etc, does not need any drivers and its light as fuck..... so yeah
+Quackers which 2 models
+Google Name Policy EC1 and Fk1+ and I'm in love with my EC1but I'm selling my Fk1+ :(
best mice for large hands? (23cm by 11cm hand size)
Really 23cm and by 9 with your thumb as I did in the video? Those are some seriously long fingers. The Rival 300 might actually be your best bet! It's really long but narrow at the front.
Are you a bigfoot?
Hồng Phúc Bùi I'm 6ft8, sooo... yes :)
Rocket Jump Ninja ohhh, with my thumb it's 11 across
Devil's Advocate That makes more sense. Ok so unfortunately there aren't too many big mice... DeathAdder seems to be the go-to big mouse, EC1-A is slightly smaller, Rival 300 is a bit too thin, and I haven't tried the Asus ROG Gladius.
I haven't spoken to many 6'8 guys about mice though, so if you want to share what you've found with various mice, I can start including the info in reviews!
Thanks to this channel im never again looking for info on mice anywhere else online. Straight to the point, relevant info, good reasoning. This is what youtube channels should be like. subbed
you deserve 5,000,000 subs
I'd say he deserve more than that
i bought an ec2-a yesterday and then this video was uploaded today... good thing the ec2-a is at no2 but i wouldnt have expect much difference from you zy. as always, amazing video, great recommendations.
I find it odd that you gave the same recommendation for the fk2 hand size for claw grip and give the dm1 pro the same range for claw grip.
Yeah it's almost like it's a rough guide and not meant to be taken as 100% accurate.
I know it's a rough guide, but two mice in different size categories shouldn't have the exact same hand size recommendations(I thought there would be a .5-1cm increase/decrease that's all) as I really do doubt a 15cm claw gripper can hold a sensei shaped mouse as well as a smaller mouse like a g303 or fk2. This is just my opinion though.
Probably right, but until I get an official structure, I'll be messing with the numbers constantly. This is new stuff, it takes time to develop.
Would making a most used mouse vs hand size poll help?
Too complicated.
Got the zowie fk1 a couple of weeks ago, upgrading from a steelseries sensei. I have to say that the fk1 is the best mouse i have ever used, so damn good, and my aim improved so damn much! Thank you Zy for your reviews and thank you for your awesome channel ^__^
I am using an EC2-A and it is pretty good, haven't watched this yet. Hope it is on the list :D
It's no.2!
How is the scroll wheel? Can you feel the turns on it?
Yes, it isn't G502 quality however on the recent BenQ version you can most definitely feel the steps of the scroll wheel where changing weapons/jumping on CSGO is quite easy.
+TheComputerGuy thank you
I use the ec1-a but the Razer deathadder sensor is a little bit better then the zowies
I HAVE SEEN SO MANY CS MOUSE GUIDES AND I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ONE FROM YOU THANKS LOVE YA
the zowie is the best for csgo hands down
nah
Matthews_ | Gaming Content! Yah
nah. zowie is lagging behind in some department
Which department?
I've got ec2-a and it's awesome.
Side buttons suck big time though
Loving these Mouse Reviews! Good to see an Pro Quake Veteran doing these videos! 😀
Hand Size: 21cm by 10cm
Grip Style: Fingertip Grip
Games: FPS
PlautusGamingWorld Same, I hate DeathAdder shape and size, currently trying to get a Zowie EC2-A but cannot find any on the market.
PlautusGamingWorld They are releasing a new Logitech mouse soon, see if you like it. RGB, Great Optical Sensor, Lightweight, Programmable Buttons, and is pretty cheap for a good gaming mouse. gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/pro-gaming-mouse
PlautusGamingWorld Logitech G402?
PlautusGamingWorld logitech g400s, g400, g500, g500s?
PlautusGamingWorld What about Zowie EC1-A+
God bless you for actually buying these instead of reading amazon reviews and showing the amazon page
Been using desthadders for 3 years. Have tried others but none compare to the shape and sensor of the deathadder
wow, times sure have changed
I'm using g900, it's pretty amaizing. Playing on LE - Supreme levels. Sensor is absolutely flawless.
Agreed. I love the freedom of wireless and for me it was definitely worth the price.
I absolutely love my G900. Best mouse I have used in a loooooong time.
No lie, my hand is the same vertical and horizontal measurements as your hands... which means: *when you say how a mouse feels I can easily relate*. Making this the perfect channel for me, a 'perfect fit' :)
18 cm hand is considered large? I must have fucking giant hands then, 21.5 cm length and 11.5 cm width.
yeah that's actually medium to large size. 18 cm is actually small to medium size. Speaking relatively.
Trust me. I have 30cm x 13 cm hands and it's a nightmare to find mice comfortable enough for a hybrid palm-claw grip.
MISOT Wtf ? :D:D
How tall are you?
matu1181 175 cm. But having large hands and feet run in the family. Shoes are also a pain. Looking for size 12 shoes here in the Philippines is pure hell.
+MISOT I can understand. I'm Pinoy too but I grew up in the US and whenever I get clothes from there I have to get XXXL and I'm normal for the US at 181 cm and I wear medium here.
You really need more exposure, you go into so much depth in these videos for your subs you deserve atleast five hundred thousand subs
hiello gais
imho ec1a da best mouz in da whole world
IVDV i said imho, don't attack me plz my friend
IVDV no problemo my friend
+AkcesoriumPC tru but is it just me or does any1 else like the white logo more than the red?
Your best mouse in the world has a awkward shape, a coating that is slippery with both dry and sweaty hands, stiff buttons that are hard to spam, very bad scrollwheel, worst m4/5 buttons on planet, too huge mouse feet which caus a lot of unneccessary friction and feels a bit sluggish / not snappy in game. Just because the author is this video gets money to praise zowie mice and because they do the same with most of the pro player it leads to the fact that zowie is overrated by fanboys.
zerfino Bruh, i said that it's my opinion. I had in my hands many mice, liek dadder, fk1 &2 , rival 100, 300 and it's csgo ed, some natec mouses, 2 logitech mice and much more. Ec1-a is simply the best 4 me atm. btw zey now me from my wantaps.
my mouse of choice atm is the deathadder. my hand is about 17.5cm long and 9.3cm wide, but the biggest selling point for me are the rubber sides, amazing sensor and most importantly the buttons's shape. my grip is a hybrid between a palm and a claw grip and i keep THREE of my fingers on top of the mouse. The DA's button shape gives me a place where i can rest my ring finger. I've owned one for 1.5yrs, absolutely no complaints.
Razer Deathadder Chroma is not desinged for big hands. I am 12 Years old and it fits me perfectly!
Yes, its too short and narrow (my hands are 20,5cm x 12cm)
Gamesgi - Gaming and More yeah a mouse isnt meant to feel like a glove kid.. its obvs too big for you, and ive tried mice that are way to big and they feel amazing in hand but i bet your minecraft aim is shit with it, go for a ec2a or razer basilisk kid
KIR4N kid
Its good to see that Logitech are beginning to make really good mice now, with the releases of the G403, 703 and 900. I personally use the G402 but soon upgrading to 403. Soon they will own the gaming mice market.
no g pro?
Noah Roworth This video came out way before G Pro was released
I had a Kone Pure Military for over a year, then the sensor stopped responding and my left mouse button stopped working.
Maybe I'm unlucky, I tried repairing it but with no success (changing the microswitch for the left button). I hope I'll find a better mouse that fits my hand. I most likely will not use any ROCCAT product again :/
is it normal for a 11 yr old to have 18cm x 9cm ? xD cuz i legit do not know
draglol2324 pretty small but yeah
That's kinda small for a 11 years old
draglol2324 its big mate
yes its normal.
draglol2324 Sasquatch?
I have the zowie ec1-a and i Have seriously never aimed better. The easy dpi adjustment is great, it's really responsive and the sensor is amazing. I'm not saying it will work for you but it's still a great mouse. Also very good build quality, I really can't find anything wrong with this mouse. If you're a big fan of LED lighting and RGB, then this one isn't for you, it does Adjust depending on the dpi but that's it. It's also plug and play which means you can take it wherever you want with no problems. 10/10 mouse
deathadder here elite
Your reviews have encouraged me to me to buy a zowie ec2-a and I love it! It perfect I have a medium hand (forgot hand size) and play claw. Btw keep up the great work
Will you be reviewing the new Nixeus Revel? At first I didn't really like it, but now I've been using it for a couple weeks and I must say, it's beginning to rock for FPS.
I love the detail in your videos!
Great Videos like always. Thanks to your video now using fk2 and I can confirm its an awesome mouse.
been using a G502PC from logitech. it's on the heavier side but the micoswithes are solid. build quality is great and the sensor was rated as best available on the commercial market in 2014.
a bit expensive and has no rgb. but the software is easy to use. has a massive dpi range for when using multi monitors and overall works great. my only complaint after using it the past year is the placement of dpi+ button which at times can activate if I hit my mouse against my laptop bezel on smaller desks while flicking.
still an awesome product. I would certainly recommend it.
Hey Zy, wondered if you had some advice. I've been struggling to find my perfect mouse. I have hands 20cm long and 12cm wide, but most large mice feel uncontrollable to me. Especially Zowies made for my size hands make my skin get stuck between the mouse and mat, and I struggle picking them up and finding a place to rest my fingers comfortably. Right now, my favourite mouse is the G Pro for 'slower' shooters and the Rival 110 for twitch shooters (Razer Abyssus 2014 was my favourite shape but I've gone through 3 and they all developed issues), but it still doesnt feel perfect. With both mouse I have a palm grip, with my fingers going way over the mouse buttons. This is so far the best way to aim and feel comfortable for me, but I feel like there's still room for improvement. I was thinking maybe a higher mouse that's still relatively small might work better for me, but I struggle finding one.
Hey zy! Great video as always. Waht do you think about the finalmouse scream? I'm thinking of switching to the G900 or that or the fk2.
23 k subs , your channel has grow up so fast. cong
Again. Nice video! Been waiting for this type of video :S
Hi Rocket...I have a question. Is the Roccat Kone XTD Optical a good Mouse for FPS? I know the Laser Version of the XTD is bullshit but what about the Optical Version? The Optical Version has a Avago ADNS-S3988 Senor. Can you Help me? is the 3310 Sensor better then that 3988?
I have the EC1-a and I find it to be the best mouse I have ever used. I have used deathadders, fk1 and fk1, logitches g400s, steelseries sensei and steelseries rival, personally I find the EC1-a to be my favorite out of the lot. I have ordered an EC2-a anyway as I feel that the shell would fit my hand better due to it being slightly smaller.
Yoo Zy, you didn't explain why you prefer the Zowie FK1/2 over the Zowie EC2-A. Can you please explain on this comment why you prefer that one over the EC2-A? I think quite some people would like to know. Awesome video as always ;)
Do you have Problems with the buttons on the Right side of the Zowie fk?
I want to buy a good mouse for FPS games like OW to play competitive mostly. My hand has 20cm size aprox.
Is Deathadder, SteelSeries or Zowie a good choice?
Hey Zy, great video ! I have 21.5 cm hands, and I returned the ec1a because it was too big for me (aggressive claw grip). I got a g303 and im fairly happy with it. My favorite shape is the Sensei, so what mouse would you recommend I get if I want to switch from the g303?
I have a relatively big hand (20cm by 10), use a palm/fingertip hybrid, and I have the deathadder elite. Lengthwise it's fine, the issue I have with it is its width. I play fps's (99.9% of the time) and I'm questioning whether to get the ec2-a or the fk2. What is your opinion? (I have an old g502 proteus core and a kinzu v3, in case you need comparisons :) )
Ps: Never having used the kinzu v3 (gave it to a relative cuz I didn't need it) before, I did as well as I did with the deathadder, but I felt more comfortable - meaning, I do good with smaller mice than the deathadder (but the kinzu I think it's just a bit overly small)
Got Zowie Fk2, Ec2-a, Rapoo v300, Logitech g303 and Roccat Kova. Been switching from one to another many times, but recently i realized that g303 is the best for me. It has the most smooth gliding and precise sensor I ever played with, and the build quality of it is superb(best mouse buttons and one of the best scroll wheels on the market).
The 3310 sensor of the zowie's is decent, but its quite too sharp - good for fast aiming(flick shots), but i prefer much the smoothness of the g303 - it just gives you the feeling of full control.
what do u think is the best of this: Roccat Kone Pure (not Military!), steelseries rival 300 or the Razer deathadder
Nice vid, sub! :)
Is the fk2 and steelseries sensei has same size and shape?
Cuz i have a sensei and i really love the shape and the way my hands feel when i grip the mice, but i hate the build and the sensor, planning to switch to a new mice, i ha e tried ec2a but i dont like its shape, hope to get your reply :) thanks, and again very nice vid, very informative
Hey Zy just curious but do any companies sponsor you and if they haven't, have any of them contacted you and you know they watch your vids?
I don't think it's called sponsorship, but a fair few send me products now (for honest reviews).
I'm starting to point towards the Zowie EC-1A, since it is the widest that I saw, but do you know any that are wider? My hand is about 9.5 cm wide and i cant find a comfortable mouse. I'm currently using the rival 300 and my pinky is hitting my mousepad a fair amount.
Does your ec2-a have huano switches? If not you should try it out and see if there's any difference. I know the newer ones have them.
I've been waiting for this video, so thanks zai!
I disagree with your zowie bias, as currently my favourite mouse for csgo is the razer deathadder chroma.
Unfortunately the zowie ec2-a sensor craps out for low sensitivity players, whereas the deathadder keeps tracking. i was using the g402 for all around.
today i got a new mouse for game dev, the g502 is my new test candidate.
@rocketJumpNinja what are your thoughts on gameDev or work Mice?
I don't know anything about gameDev.
And the EC2-A sensor doesn't fail for low sensitivity players. You must have got a dud. I don't think "bias" is the right word. I play best with two of the Zowie mice, that's all.
Pretty nice list mouses liked more is: Mx300, Deathadder and Flick G1
Overall you're one of the best reviewers on YT I'm my opinion.
Next time top mouses for Osu! maybe (?
omg no xD for osu, just use a light mouse
osu! MiraLyn
Omg I got a reply from a Osu! player my thing is that I don't wanna buy tablet I wan't the "challenge" of playing with mouse :/
Because im gonna buy a Corsair Sabre on September but other oppinions on various mice should be good too
the flick g1 is not a good mouse, unless you enjoy playing with 2 cm lift off distance
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Thing I like is the shape... it's only idk nice for me (Also i never tried it xd)
Yeah, mouse give some challenge, I was playing on tablet like for 2 years. Now I switch to mouse and it give me a lot of fun :^) But I probably should have bigger mouse cuz have big hands ;d
@Rocket Jump Ninja Was the FinalMouse tournament pro forgotten about, or is it not good enough in your opinion to be qualified as top 10?
Hasn't done a review yet, I think FinalMouse screwed him over somehow, so he isn't reviewing it.
It doesn't ship to Australia and they don't want to send me one. That's all there is to it.
I want a mouse similar to the deathadder chroma. That is what I've been using for 2 years, but I recently broke mine. I no longer want to purchase razer products. So what mouse would you recommend?
My hand is 20 cm long and 10.5 cm in width, but the Deathadder feels too big for me or atleast wrong somehow. Any idea why that is? It kind of hurts my hand to play with it intensively for an extended period of time. I'm thinking of trying the EC2-A instead, but idk.
Hey Zy just letting you know great video and this was a very smart choice in video title + idea to gain more viewers.
Hey Zy, i got a question, I do play CS:GO and i have been using a Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 3500 for 7 years, and it was doing his job prety fine(great mouse btw) even though the side rubbers were gone in 2 years of use, but recently it started to show some problems with scroll and i'm tired of having to change batteries, so i think its time for an upgrade i guess, what do you recommend?, my hand is 18.5 cm / 9 cm, i use Fingertip Grip, thanks in advance (sorry for bad english).
I'll probably pick the DM 1 Pro S, good shape, good sensor, omron, great mouse overrall.. Thanks for the help mate! i'll update here when i get mine =']
Hey Zy. Asus have 2 mice with 3310 sensors, the ROG Sica and the Strix claw. Do you think you can take a look at those? Cheers.
Would the Deathadder be a good choice for me? I use claw and my hands are 18cm, 10cm. I'm also very heavy handed, so I enjoy a bit of heft to my mouse.
Deathadder elite good also or not?
Best mouse ever up today is the deathadder.
@@tommy2181 Absolutely agree bro... the DeathAdder is so often copied of other Companies but never reached 😁. I've been using the DeathAdder for many years now and tried all the other brands out maybe to replace my DeathAdder, but no way. No other mouse is so comfortable as my DeathAdder Elite, pushing the buttons don't tire your fingers in long term gaming sessions, so impressive. Everyone can claim what he wants about Razer.
hey rocket do you know if HAVIT HV-MS995GT is a good mice for universitary user and casual cs go gaming ?
I have the gigabyte xm300, and I love it. Very comfortable, and i have had no build quality issues. It is also only around $35 usd (I believe), so it is a great alternative to the deathadder. One that I don't like about it are the scroll wheel, which you have to be careful with it if you use it to switch weapons because it over-scrolls if you aren't sensitive, because it is. Also, if it is hot where you live or you have sweaty hands, it can get a little sweaty. But it is definitely a top-tier mouse for a mid tier price
should I take the razer deathader chroma or elite now ?
Tristan Manuceau elite
Hey Zy, do you think the fk2 will suit my hand size of 18cm length 10cm width with fingertip grip or the g103/g pro more.
I have a question for YOU RocketJumpNinja, out of all these mice you review, what is your main daily driver you use for gaming / general use?
kula He said its logi g pro
my hand is 19 cm long and 10 cm wide, should i get the zowie fk2 or the EC2-a?
i have 17cm 8,6 cm hands. I play csgo only. i use palm gripm What mouse do your choose for me?
zowie series still have sensor problems. maybe g303 no1.
So... the Logitech G502 Proteus spectrum is too heavy for fps ? Because I was going to buy it...
Great video dude. love your mouse reviews :)
Hello I watched many of your videos on mice. I have a small question: Why do you always Mouse Optical and laser and is not the difference between the two technologies. thank you very much
Sorry i am French :D
Il ya une différence entre les capteurs laser et optique. Le capteur laser a une accélération, mais l'optique ne
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-Alright, i have a question and it is quite hard..
i really love the look of the razer mamba tournament edition.. but seriously, i have to play cs:go, is there a big difference between the razer mamba and the razer deathadder? Like, yes, i know there may be a difference, but it is like a very big difference? is it playable with the razer mamba tournament edition? Do you reccomend me upgrading from the cm devastator to the razer mamba tournament edition? Will it be a big difference? thanks..
RussianGuyRus Sorry I might be late.Mamba has a weak laser sensor.Deathadder has top optical , so its better for fps games.The shape of DA is better for me.On mamba my pinky hurts just like on corsair m65 pro white.
I have monster sized hands so do you think the g900 would be good for me?
I have the Corsair M65 Pro, and I wanted to know what you think about it, if anything. So far I really like it....
you said G403 wireless doesn't feel different. so why is g900 the only wireless you'll use :c?
my hand size is 17cm Long x 7cm thumb what is a good mouse for me
im thinking of buying one of the zowie ec series but any good recommendations?
Are you planning on reviewing Zowie ZA series and how it compares to FK series, shape wise? Both are ambidextrous which I like and I cant decide which one I prefer
I reviewed the ZA series... I couldn't see a reason to choose them over other mice with similar shapes. EC2-A is the best of its kind and FK2 is unique enough to get the nod over the ZA.
Ah I'm sorry I must've missed the video then. But thanks for the response!Rocket Jump Ninja
reason for fk over ec2a? I have an old fk1 and just ordered a ec2a as the ambidextrous feel started to hurt my hand and wanted something more ergonomical
would you be able to do a review of the Logitech G Pro when it comes out? there seems to be quite a bit of hype about it and I want to see if it is worth upgrading from the g303.
Zy, how did you remove braided part of g303 cable? Its too fat mate..
Hey dude, are you still planning on making more "Learning CS:GO" videos?
im confused as to why the pro players use mice with cords? is it to reduce weight or to prevent some kind of cheat?
Is the SS Rival 100 good too? I have small hands and I primarily use claw grip.
My hand is 18cm x 10.5cm and i find the deathadder has the most optimal shape for me. I typically use it in a relaxed palm grip for general use and games that don't require a lot of mouse accuracy like league of legends, then claw grip for jittering in minecraft pvp. When i palm my fingers reach about the edge of the click buttons, so i move them back a good bit when i claw
I especially like how the sides curve, they fit my hand perfectly.
My hands are 18.5cm by 11 cm...which mouse would you recommend?
Logitech G602 or M720 for light gaming and video editing and other creative works?
should I buy ec1-a or ec2-a? my handsize are 17/18 cm and I use Palm grip, pls help
my aim improved a lot when I started using the logitech g502. I use the sniper butten as "Q-Q" when I use the awp or something, it's really useful
What Zowie ECA mouse would you recommend for an 18.75cm x 9cm with palm grip, 400 dpi. I have asked Zowie themselves, as well as /r/mousereview & have gotten mixed responses. I currently use a RIval 300 & it seems just a tad big for my liking. I also owned a G502 before that & I felt there wasn't enough room for my pink on the side, it would drag on my mousepad. Thanks in advance!
I would try out the EC1-A, if it's too big just return it.
hello zy, will the huano switches effect my aim or not since im used to omron switches. because i realy like the ec1-a and i want to buy it and i need an answer please
I'm not zy but I'll give you my opinion. In my opinion, it won't affect your aim if you don't spam the mouse really fast all the time (so no in fps games). However, it will if you get tired after clicking a stiff switch often(for me I don't get tired(I get no fatigue, but I PERFER lighter clicks like the g303 and of course, you won't aim as well as normal if your fingers hurt). I think for osu though, I would be careful as the click could be too stiff for those types of games for you. Ultimately, you are pushing the mouse down and in no other direction which in theroy, should only make the mouse slighter harder to move, not make the mouse move in any direction other than the direction the gravity is forcing the object on easier to move so no, it should not alter your aim in any way unless again, another factor interferes(ie sore fingers or injured Palm, wrist, etc).
and what about mousepads? What is best mousepad for mouse with plastic pads?
Any recommendations for a good G9 replacement? It was excellent for a claw grip-style user like myself, plus I need the weights because I prefer a heavy mouse. Thank you.
I use a microsoft 1.1, what's the closest similarity in terms of structure? I use claw grip
Razer Deathadder Chroma for me :)
I've owned three deathadders, and all three have come across one problem. The rubber grip keeps coming off after a couple months of use. It might come down to the fact that I grip my mice really tight, or just poor build quality, but it really frustrates me that such a great mouse has such a small problem that really bugs me. I still use them, and still love them, but god theyre annoying. :(