No matter what kick or 808 combination you are using, you need to EQ the frequencies regardless unless you are using a pre mixed sound that is already great quality. I wouldn't say don't do this, just make sure if you do then mix your kicks & 808's accordingly.
The master comes with some heat again! You know I had to disappear for a little at work to come watch this! 🤣 I'm sure I can speak for other when I say this, you the GOAT my guy! You explain everything so well and have helped me so much! 🙏💪
@@NavieD Maaan.. Ain't that true?! Lol. Wanted to straight take today off but was told I was really needed. Just got my KRK Rokit 5 G4's last night. I think they need me more. 🤣
I think you'd be great on a video showing us all the FL shortcuts like Alt + K You taught me about Ctrl + B and you cut my beat making process by 15 minutes which really helped.
I remember listening to some lofi I made two years ago. I instantly cringed at the out of key bass and the random supersaw I added. I have definitely improved
Thanks I really needed this I'm making my beats from bandlab since I don't have a laptop/computer. Just a beat maker trying to work with what I got and come up
I've watched a few of your videos before I finally subscribed. Super underrated. I think you probably make the best production tip videos on youtube. Super concise, actionable information with great use of examples. You've helped me out a lot so, seriously, thanks. I've only been producing for 2 years but I know I'm way better thanks to RUclips and content creators like you that make it so much easier to learn.
Considering that every producer now uses lots of the same punchy 808s that are used excessively, I question the validity of the first point. Maybe, I'm not experienced enough yet to know when to use lots or fewer 808s , anyway, I appreciate the vedio overall .
I was more pointing out how there was absolutely no pauses between the 808s and they were very overwhelming. It was constantly playing - this can easily wear down the listener
Great video as always. These are very important considerations to make, and they often get overlooked by newer engineers. However, I think the greatest thing about this video is how universal your first point is- That is to say, this philosophy could be applied to many different subgenres of hip-hop (ESPECIALLY lyrical hip hop where you need a lot of room for the vocals to breathe and shine through, as the lyrics are one of the most important aspects of more raw, underground, lyrical, substance driven hip hop). In trap, vocals are used more as an instrument. In more lyrical hip-hop (such as eastcoast/boombap), the rhyme scheme, vocabulary, and substance of the emcee's lyrics can often be more important than cadence and intonation.
Imo we all should know how Jdilla made beats cuz it gives you freedom to make beats which doesn´t sound old drummachine patterns. If own Maschine the best way is just learn to play with fingers and don´t mind if hats are late or any drum parts. You can quantize kick and snares if you want. It maybe sounds to someone weird cuz there is market full of beats made suing only loops or just clicking mouse. I try to avoid trainlike beats which goes same way and are always on beat. Cheers. Good video man!
3:40 ahahaha Navie was straight bullying the fat kids back in middle school. Great tutorial tho. Also bullying can form the character in a positive way so
common tips why beats sound like that 1:34 is bcuz almost everyone tells to beginners "make 808 first then put kick to top on 808 and probably add couple of kicks too. Don´t forget to sidechain cuz otherwise 808 eat up too much space from your beat"
Most likely, you are gonna be stuck with them in the sample. Unfortunately there is still no great way of extracting drums from samples with 100% accuracy.
Some producers still want the complex 808 melody though, so if you don't want to get rid of complexity, you have to do other things to make room for it. You can still kidnap that fat kid if you take some of the groceries out of the trunk first to make sure he doesn't eat them. You can pan some of the groceries up to the front and out to the sides of the car. Position the fat kid in the middle so that his weight is distributed equally on the back tires. You can sidechain the fat kid and the fatty foods so that some level of waveform loudness will trigger a quick surgery on the fat kid every time both have to exist in the car at once. You can keep the whole fat kid if you dress him up real pretty and make an event of it.
I think a good framework is to keep balance in mind. If something is going to be complex like an 808 melody, you would likely have to simplify elsewhere
I know I’m two years late but I’d love to hear Navie’s opinion on $crims production from $uicideboy$, because they do the exact opposite of some of these tips and make it work. They taught me that you actually can get away with having a lot of kicks in your loop, and fairly consistent 808s without overwhelming the listener if you do it correctly.
The 808 originally never generated bass guitar instrument sounds. You could tune the kick though for long sustained kick/bass combo though. Perplexing as to why you refer to the first example as an "808 bass" which is technically inaccurate. Just call is bass synth or something? Another trick is to make sure your kick does not sustain too much to interfere with the bass guitar or other low end instruments. If it does, then make sure they are tuned properly to not cause crazy freq harmonics.
Thank you Zub! Yeah, drums are always one of those things I forget about as well. I come up with the basic pattern and then move on, and don't revisit them during the arrangement process as much as I should
@@NavieD thanks for the transparency! Sometimes I feel like I’m just too lazy to invest the time in really good drum patterns. But I guess those are the struggles we all face 😂
HEY IF I SEND YOU A COUPLE BEATS CAN YOU SCHOOL ME ON WHAT I AM DOING WRONG I USE FL MOBILE BECUZ FLS FREEZE ON ME EVERY SINGLE TIME I GUESS I NEED A BETTER COMPUTER.ANYWAY IF YOU FIND THE TIME PLEASE GET BACK TO ME.THANKS
I like how you talk about kidnapping a big fat kid with out even breaking up. I thought you’d be laughing, but I just see neutral. I wish I could do that.
Thanks man! Yeah people routinely ask me about sound selection, but it's really hard to talk explain in one RUclips video. I do cover it in my course though
As in push the bass note so it plays after the kick? The same issue would still persist, as it would sound like there are multiple kicks jumping up and down in your beat
Any place i can listen to more of your music? Ive only found 3 albums plus the MFP soundtrack. The 'electronic' songs youve made (or whatever the proper genre they classify into is) are always SO so good!!
theres no way to make a good trap beat. that sicada crap has been overused immensly. and should be avoided at all cost if you want to consider yourself creative...
I consider the whole trap-scene as a one big red flag nowadays. Everyone uses the same loops, same plugins and sample-packs (stolen for free from torrentsites) same drumpatterns, same hihat and percussion "tricks" and the list goes on and on. May the God have mercy on our souls.
Beste vriend ik kan niet meer produceren maar Macbook is en mij verstopt moet ik kapot is gegaan hij was zo erg heet geworden dat hij ermee gestopt is helemaal totaal
Guys I did some of my own voiceover work in this video. Let me know if you think I should become a voice actor now
hey, pls make a guitar type beat
Yes Sir You can :D !
Oh for sure! Hoping to get some of that beautiful voiceover work in your beat making course.
guitar type beat!!!
Yes!! I love your voice, your look, and that button up shirt is very nice on you!!!
"Honey, how important am I to you?"
"Let me show this visually"
I am only going to communicate through photoshop animations from now on
@@NavieD do it please
Navie is not only a master of beat making. He is also the master of Photoshop Story Telling
ye.
I should write my own kids books I think. Next weeks tutorial is about how to make kids book now
yeye.
absolutye.
@@NavieD How to teach your kids to focus on being a better beatmaker 😬
Ive made beats for 7 years...you'ved cleared up a lot of mistakes I ignored.....With logical explanations ..salute to you...I'm gonna keep following
Thank you man, I am happy to have you on board!
7:51 Guys, Always keep that in mind.
Join the sprinkle fairy gang Lowan
Finally, someone named the genre I am making 😂
Fat kid abduction type beats
No matter what kick or 808 combination you are using, you need to EQ the frequencies regardless unless you are using a pre mixed sound that is already great quality. I wouldn't say don't do this, just make sure if you do then mix your kicks & 808's accordingly.
Thank you for your lovely comment Ragnar!
great video! the 808's are always the last i add to a beat because that forces me to keep it as simple as possible
Interesting idea!
The master comes with some heat again! You know I had to disappear for a little at work to come watch this! 🤣 I'm sure I can speak for other when I say this, you the GOAT my guy! You explain everything so well and have helped me so much! 🙏💪
Hahah dag I hope you don't end up getting fired man
@@NavieD It'd be worth it! Hahaha! But nah, I work too damn early. Management still won't be in for another hour or so.
Damn management. Always coming in late and getting angry if you do the same
@@NavieD Maaan.. Ain't that true?! Lol. Wanted to straight take today off but was told I was really needed. Just got my KRK Rokit 5 G4's last night. I think they need me more. 🤣
The Fat boy analogy slaps hard, while I'm stuffing on chocolate. lmao
This video fixed all my beats and made my kids want to talk to me again. :) thank you Navie D.
I think you'd be great on a video showing us all the FL shortcuts like Alt + K
You taught me about Ctrl + B and you cut my beat making process by 15 minutes which really helped.
Hahah glad I can help. I did a video on these shortcuts already, I think its called FL Studio Piano Roll tutorial or something along those lines
Haha your visual diagrams always kill me, keep up the good work Navie D!
Thank you Hydra! I enjoy being a sillyboy
You always have the best tutorials bro, thanks for everything.
Timmy you're a beautiful friend 😘
Man, your illustrations are fire 🔥
Hahaha no compliments on my beautiful voiceover work though? I am sadman
Super dope!
Thank you Big Valboski!
I gotta give credit we’re it’s due. Your underground airplay is one of the most vicious beats I ever heard.
Ay thanks man. I enjoyed making that beat for sure
Tip 3, why not just sidechain?
Well, in the case you didn't want a kick overtop of every single 808, you would need another workaround instead of sidechaining
Bruh he does not know anything about trap beats 💀💀Nav Uncle wild
Haha Crap Trap?! Very clever! Always love the content Navie. Can’t wait for the course!!!
Thank you KODB! I have a big announcement being revealed today about the course! Should be coming through in about an hour
@@NavieD Alright, staying tuned!!
the kidnapping a fat kid metaphor had me dying 😂
I hope you will stop kidnapping fat kids now Christian
I remember listening to some lofi I made two years ago. I instantly cringed at the out of key bass and the random supersaw I added. I have definitely improved
Hahah I plan on making a lofi video like this and what you described is one of the flags I commonly see. So don't feel too bad
The trunk and fat kid analogy.... hilarious
I hope it makes sense!
I lost it when he put the kid in the trunk🤣
Never again will you try to kidnap fat kids after this video
Thanks I really needed this
I'm making my beats from bandlab since I don't have a laptop/computer.
Just a beat maker trying to work with what I got and come up
Fair enough, you can make an excellent beat no matter what you use
Well.. i never hear „its just on click to unsubscribe if you‘re annoyed by me“ 👍🤝
Hahah I am sure there are people who get tired of seeing my malarkey
4:12 i'm going to haave nightmares for the restt of my life now
He's gonna be hiding under your bed tonight
3:41 Dude kidnap a kid while he was in the market
I bet I am on some watchlist now
Explaining making room in your mix with the analogy of kidnapping a fat kid in the trunk of your car seems a bit weird
I think it makes perfect sense
Lol I was in class watching this asn started laughing way too hard at the fat kid part everyone was lookin at me
Hahah young man, you're about to get sent to the principals office
You sold me on subscribing after I've seen 10 of your videos in the last month.
Hahah dag you've seen me more than my own mother has
Sometimes I click on a video and this man looks like me then I click a different one and he’s bulked af 😭😭😭
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Haha, I celebrate your example....adding a fat kid! And love your shark shirt! Good video, thanks. 😊🖖
Thank you! I have a flamingo shirt that I am excited to bring out too
@@NavieDCan´t wait to see. Love flamingos! 😁😀🥰 🦩🦩🦩
This is all true!
There is not a word of a lie in this video. I think.
Man you can't put a fat person into your video in 2021, you know what i mean :D
I am about to get cancelled for that one
Crap Trap red flag thumbnail
😂. My Trap is Crap because of two of those red flags. No variation on the drum loop, 808s with a build-in kick.
C'mon now Lesedi. You've been improving
@@NavieD Very much. Just ironing out some red flags as I go.
I've watched a few of your videos before I finally subscribed. Super underrated. I think you probably make the best production tip videos on youtube. Super concise, actionable information with great use of examples. You've helped me out a lot so, seriously, thanks. I've only been producing for 2 years but I know I'm way better thanks to RUclips and content creators like you that make it so much easier to learn.
Oh wow, thanks Bart! Glad to have you on board. I hope I can keep helpin you make better tunes
Considering that every producer now uses lots of the same punchy 808s that are used excessively, I question the validity of the first point. Maybe, I'm not experienced enough yet to know when to use lots or fewer 808s , anyway, I appreciate the vedio overall .
I was more pointing out how there was absolutely no pauses between the 808s and they were very overwhelming. It was constantly playing - this can easily wear down the listener
@@NavieD Understood, Thanks for shedding the light again on that.
Alt+K as a note limiter is great, been looking for this shortcut for ages, thank you Navie, good tutorial as always.
Glad you got something outta the video Emanuel!
Navie looks like a teddy bear but makes the HARDEST BEATS ffs
Well thank you. I am very huggable
i kinda liked the guys 808 as a melody i am sure theres a different way to make the same 808 but a different note so it atleast is the same sound
It would be really tough to get that beat to have a feeling of balance with how many 808s there were in that pattern
Great video as always. These are very important considerations to make, and they often get overlooked by newer engineers. However, I think the greatest thing about this video is how universal your first point is- That is to say, this philosophy could be applied to many different subgenres of hip-hop (ESPECIALLY lyrical hip hop where you need a lot of room for the vocals to breathe and shine through, as the lyrics are one of the most important aspects of more raw, underground, lyrical, substance driven hip hop). In trap, vocals are used more as an instrument. In more lyrical hip-hop (such as eastcoast/boombap), the rhyme scheme, vocabulary, and substance of the emcee's lyrics can often be more important than cadence and intonation.
Imo we all should know how Jdilla made beats cuz it gives you freedom to make beats which doesn´t sound old drummachine patterns. If own Maschine the best way is just learn to play with fingers and don´t mind if hats are late or any drum parts. You can quantize kick and snares if you want. It maybe sounds to someone weird cuz there is market full of beats made suing only loops or just clicking mouse. I try to avoid trainlike beats which goes same way and are always on beat. Cheers. Good video man!
3:40 ahahaha Navie was straight bullying the fat kids back in middle school. Great tutorial tho. Also bullying can form the character in a positive way so
common tips why beats sound like that 1:34 is bcuz almost everyone tells to beginners "make 808 first then put kick to top on 808 and probably add couple of kicks too. Don´t forget to sidechain cuz otherwise 808 eat up too much space from your beat"
3:38 it's clear the the mad magazine kid wasn't eating those veggies.
Hahaha he does sorta look like the mad magazine guy hey
Yo navie D can you pls $how u$ how to remove drum$ from a $ample
Most likely, you are gonna be stuck with them in the sample. Unfortunately there is still no great way of extracting drums from samples with 100% accuracy.
Some producers still want the complex 808 melody though, so if you don't want to get rid of complexity, you have to do other things to make room for it. You can still kidnap that fat kid if you take some of the groceries out of the trunk first to make sure he doesn't eat them. You can pan some of the groceries up to the front and out to the sides of the car. Position the fat kid in the middle so that his weight is distributed equally on the back tires. You can sidechain the fat kid and the fatty foods so that some level of waveform loudness will trigger a quick surgery on the fat kid every time both have to exist in the car at once. You can keep the whole fat kid if you dress him up real pretty and make an event of it.
I think a good framework is to keep balance in mind. If something is going to be complex like an 808 melody, you would likely have to simplify elsewhere
@@NavieD agreed, lookin' forward to more videos too this is great work
one of these days, Navie will tell you ''subscribe to my second channel where i do Photoshop tutorials''
And then it will be "subscribe to my third channel where I kidnap fat kids"
@@NavieD i been looking for that tutorial for ages, somehow everytime i search it i get visited by the FBI for questioning .. weird
Everybody's like dope Navie
So im gonna be diffrent
How are you Navie?
I am pretty good my friend. How are you?
@@NavieD Seen a video about course man, findin way to sell my kedney or rob some grandmas to get it! So im good too
I know I’m two years late but I’d love to hear Navie’s opinion on $crims production from $uicideboy$, because they do the exact opposite of some of these tips and make it work. They taught me that you actually can get away with having a lot of kicks in your loop, and fairly consistent 808s without overwhelming the listener if you do it correctly.
The 808 originally never generated bass guitar instrument sounds. You could tune the kick though for long sustained kick/bass combo though. Perplexing as to why you refer to the first example as an "808 bass" which is technically inaccurate. Just call is bass synth or something?
Another trick is to make sure your kick does not sustain too much to interfere with the bass guitar or other low end instruments. If it does, then make sure they are tuned properly to not cause crazy freq harmonics.
Thanks for the vids man. Your the best 😉
No Wood Stock. You're the best for watching 😘
Thanks for reminding me, that i need to put in more work into my drums 😭 good vid as always ✌🏻
Thank you Zub! Yeah, drums are always one of those things I forget about as well. I come up with the basic pattern and then move on, and don't revisit them during the arrangement process as much as I should
@@NavieD thanks for the transparency! Sometimes I feel like I’m just too lazy to invest the time in really good drum patterns. But I guess those are the struggles we all face 😂
Informative and very helpful as always 🙏
Thank you. Praise the sun
@NavieD I've been working on a trap beat.. the idea is so different but i wanna turn it into industry level, can you help me?😅
Love your content, voice is irritating as hell tho.
Hope you felt better about yourself after leaving this needlessly hurtful comment!
HEY IF I SEND YOU A COUPLE BEATS CAN YOU SCHOOL ME ON WHAT I AM DOING WRONG I USE FL MOBILE BECUZ FLS FREEZE ON ME EVERY SINGLE TIME I GUESS I NEED A BETTER COMPUTER.ANYWAY IF YOU FIND THE TIME PLEASE GET BACK TO ME.THANKS
I like how you talk about kidnapping a big fat kid with out even breaking up. I thought you’d be laughing, but I just see neutral. I wish I could do that.
Love this channel and just realized I wasn't subdued wtf my bad Navie 🤣
Hey Navie D, did you know engagement also helps your channel a lot. I have no comment really - just wanted to add some engagement.
Brand new to music. Why are 808s called 808s? Is it anything to do with the old Roland 808?
Your videos are always on point. And your sound selection is top notch. I’d love to see some videos on how your pick your sounds and sound design.
Thanks man! Yeah people routinely ask me about sound selection, but it's really hard to talk explain in one RUclips video. I do cover it in my course though
Iv been making trap with only Hardwear no daw lately and it's a different sound I don't actually like trap but it's pretty to fun to make
thx for the tips! for the third flag, could I also slightly delay the bass to prevent conflicts with kicks? have a good day!
As in push the bass note so it plays after the kick? The same issue would still persist, as it would sound like there are multiple kicks jumping up and down in your beat
@@NavieD thx! but i meant as in time shifting. I often use the time shifting knob in fl studio. Anyways, i still get what you mean by that :)
Thank you i needed this video Idk how i do this but i always forget to use less 808s and as a result it drowns out the beat.
Yeah it can feel like the beat is bare at times when there is no bass playing. But you gotta leave space. Balance is necessary.
The last trick reminded me something that I forgot for ages.
Thanks for reminding me :)
No prob Ashay!
Any place i can listen to more of your music? Ive only found 3 albums plus the MFP soundtrack. The 'electronic' songs youve made (or whatever the proper genre they classify into is) are always SO so good!!
Thanks so much! Unfortunately I don't really have much else out. I have an old beat tape on my bandcamp
808 that my thang
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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you got some junk in your trunk🌹
Hahah are you referring to the fat kid as junk? You a real meanie, but I like it
@@NavieD lmao yeah. 😂😂😂
Haha you think I get annoyed seeing your videos on my feed?
Challenge accepted. Post notifications going on🤣🤣
Oooh we'll see how long you last!
theres no way to make a good trap beat. that sicada crap has been overused immensly. and should be avoided at all cost if you want to consider yourself creative...
How can i get the beat from Young Buck Taylor , i need this beat hook me up with info
I consider the whole trap-scene as a one big red flag nowadays. Everyone uses the same loops, same plugins and sample-packs (stolen for free from torrentsites) same drumpatterns, same hihat and percussion "tricks" and the list goes on and on. May the God have mercy on our souls.
I wonder what will be after trap
How can i get your premium drum kit bro
Hey buddy, it's actually only available to course members (which is open for the next week)
i bet i could use all 3 mistakes to make a banger
That sounds like quite a challenge! I believe in you
#1 Red Flag of a BAD RUclips VIDEO ( DON'T DO THIS):
Talk endlessly without making a point to stretch the video over 10 minutes for the ad revenue
You should start your own RUclips channel! It would be a big success from the sounds of it
Red flag #1, 808 issue - Ahmed's beat;
"...you end up having so much lesser room in your beat..." 🤔
😜😂😜
Me no good at speaking de english
Where can I find the Beat at the beginning
It's sittin on my harddrive unfortunately
those background lights are gooooood!
I finally got my lighting set up correct
Hahha the visual explanation
I enjoy making these stupid explanations
Hahha the visual explanation
It's the only way I know how to explain these things
Τhis video reminded me to let the fat kid out of my trunk! Thank you so much!
4th red flag is using fl studio
And what would you recommend
Great Info! #Twentybirdz
Thank you! Do you really have twenty birds?
Photoshop tutorial next
Hahah I will admit, my Photoshop game has been next level recently
I subbed, it’s only 1 click if I get annoyed
Navi is the new “warbeats” 🤟🏾🔥🔥🔥
You explain everything so good nice vid
Thank you my love. And I agree. Pat isn't fat, hes regular sized
Hey there regular sized stranger.
Beste vriend ik kan niet meer produceren maar Macbook is en mij verstopt moet ik kapot is gegaan hij was zo erg heet geworden dat hij ermee gestopt is helemaal totaal
I gotta bass guitar plugin i use sometimes if i wanna make my bass the forefront. Otherwise, I use trap 808s in everything, even my lofi 😂
Ohhh I recently made a video on why using 808s in everything can be DANGEROUS. That video won't be coming out for like a month though
your photo examples always kill me 😂
I'm guilty....😯😯😯
Of kidnapping fat kids?
Just found the channel! Love the content! [+1 sub]
Oooh happy to have you on board man!
I subscribed at 3:40
Glad to have you on board Lockart!
“Periodic drum overhaul” as in add some of that Mmmmmm
Thaaanks b🔥
You are welcome my frienddddd
Hope you changed that chirping fire alarm battery. Be safe!
I like to live dangerously 😎
i love u brother
😘
Please explain to me why 5:30 "doesnt sound good" lol